Media: the cost of transit of Russian gas through Ukraine may increase 3 times

This year, the rate of gas transit from the Russian Federation in the Ukrainian territory can grow from $ 2,73 to $ 4,07 per one thousand cubic meters for every 100 km, and taking into account the calculation methodology approved by Kiev, the cost of pumping fuel for Gazprom can be $ 7,91, transfers RIA News message Ukrainian resource "Energy Market".

Earlier in the "Naftogaz" stated that Kiev "radically increased the tariff rate for the transit of Russian gas."

“If the average tariff for the transit of thousands of cubic meters of Russian gas per 100 kilometers under the current contract in 2015 amounted to 2,73 dollars, then from 2016, its size will increase to 4,07 dollars per thousand cubic meters for every 100 kilometers. Taking into account the introduction (1 of January) of value-added tax on transit services in the amount of 20% by Ukraine, transporting thousands of cubic meters of Russian gas to 100 kilometers will cost Gazprom almost a 4,9 dollar, ”the newspaper writes.

In addition, "the methodology for calculating the cost of transit is directly linked to the volume of pumping." Kiev requires the Russian side to book the maximum amount of pumping in the amount of 110 billion cubic meters per year, that is, the amount specified in the contract from 2009,

“If we proceed from the actual transit volumes over the past year, and these are 64 billion cubic meters, then, for example, when transit to 60 billion cubic meters (this year), the actual cost of transporting thousands of cubic meters of gas per 100 kilometers will cost Gazprom 6,56 dollars ... With the tax (value added, VAT) the tariff will increase to 7,91 dollar .... As a result, the annual amount of payment by Russia for transit could grow from 2 to 6 billions of dollars ",

writes a resource.

The author of the article notes that Gazprom categorically disagrees with such “arithmetic”. At the end of 2015, the heads of Naftogaz and Gazprom agreed to meet in the third decade of January and discuss in detail the conditions for gas transit. However, confirmation that this meeting will take place, to date, no.

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[Alexei]

If Europeans have damn money, then please - raise it. 2 Nord Stream, when will you descend with a cold shower on the near rulers of small powers?

[cniza]

Quote: Alexej

If Europeans have damn money, then please - raise it.

The price is determined by the formula and tied to petroleum products, it will simply become unprofitable transit through Ukraine.

[SRC P-15]

Kiev requires the Russian side to reserve a maximum pumping volume of 110 billion cubic meters per year, that is, the volume specified in the contract of 2009.

Well, then Ukraine should also switch to the "take or pay" formula for payment for gas, and not pay only for the amount of gas purchased.
Interestingly, and for reverse gas supplies from Europe to Ukraine, will there also be the same transit prices?

[star44]

Already done!!!

MOSCOW, January 19 - RIA Novosti. Gazprom on Tuesday sent an invoice to Naftogaz of Ukraine to pay for gas that was not selected by the Ukrainian company in the third quarter of 2015 under the "take or pay" condition, the Russian company said ...


RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20160119/1361761799.html#ixzz3xgEkSwZB

[Alexei]

Quote: cniza

The price is determined by the formula and tied to petroleum products, it will simply become unprofitable transit through Ukraine.

Consequently, Europe will have a choice whether to buy at an inflated price or to buy elsewhere. But do not forget that transportation from another place is also not a cheap deal.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexej

that transportation from another place is also not a cheap thing

Of course, not at all cheap.

For example, through our region there is a main pipeline from Siberia to the West. There is a regional office "Transgaz". His boss just bought a few kilometers of the pipeline laid in the early 80s and is quietly getting a raise in his salary. And what, one wonders, does he have to do with the pipeline? Did he buy these pipes? He cooked them, laid them? No, he's just the director of Transgaz ...

If every kilometer of the gas pipeline, so the local bosses will take it for rent, the stump is clear, transportation will not be cheap ...

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And what, one wonders, is it related to the pipeline? Did he buy these pipes? He cooked them, laid them?

You yourself have just written: "For example, we have a main pipeline running through the region from Siberia to the West. There is a regional department called Transgaz. Its chief is simply bought several kilometers of pipeline. "
And then write: "What, one wonders, does he have to do with the pipeline? Did he buy these pipes?"
So bought or not bought, i.e. appropriated, you decide somehow?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Алексей_К

His boss just bought several kilometers of the pipeline. "
And then write: "What, one wonders, does he have to do with the pipeline? Did he buy these pipes?"
So bought or not bought, i.e. appropriated, you decide somehow?

Formally - I bought it. For the price of three tons of scrap metal. But the federal pipeline was not put up for public auction. Maybe I would also buy 20-30 meters. So I'm not the head of Transgaz - a structural unit of the state (73% of shares), mind you, the Gazprom corporation ... Besides, the gas pipeline is operating (and still operating!) And at the price of "scrap ferrous metal" (not even "secondary" or "recovered" pipes!) cannot be sold well. I can't, you can't. And he can.

I do not gobble that a man has grabbed an extra penny. Do not gobble that he grabbed, but I did not get it. It makes me angry that he grabbed someone else’s, made with the wrong hands, not belonging to him. And, besides, perhaps the very penny that he stole would not be enough for any defense factory or kindergarten. Of course, I’m not so naive as to think that all these pennies go to the budget and are spent correctly, but still ...

[Rostov]

Quote: Zoldat_A

His boss just bought a few kilometers of the pipeline laid in the early 80's

Can you provide proof that he bought exactly several kilometers of the pipeline, and not the shares of Transgaz? By the nature of their work, ONF people turn to me for legal advice. If, in addition to words, provide at least some evidence, I ask you to check. But for now, what you wrote is equivalent - I bought several kilometers of the state border. On whose balance are these pipes?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Rostov

Can you provide proof that he bought exactly several kilometers of the pipeline, and not the shares of Transgaz?

Exactly kilometersrather than stock. There are many who have shares there, who have been working for Gazprom for 25-30 years. But the pipe is your own and not everyone is allowed to receive from it for transit ...

The person who told me this himself works at Transgaz. It’s not the first ten years, there’s not much left until retirement, the children have just stuck there. Not a top manager, like a department head. Something connected with pipes. We have known each other and have been friends for 35 years. You understand, neither he wants to be substituted, nor I have a desire to surrender him.

Naturally, I myself cannot say where these pipes are - I was not interested, but somewhere on the territory of the Volga section "Urengoy - Pomary - Uzhgorod". They say that inside Gazprom this information is not painful and is hidden ... Business and that's all ...

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: cniza

The price is determined by the formula and tied to petroleum products, it will simply become unprofitable transit through Ukraine.

The transit price is fixed in the agreement and if Gazprom does not agree to change these conditions, then nothing will happen or Ukraine will violate the agreement, which will not speak in its favor as a transit country, and will give a loan.

[kuz363]

Exactly, let Ukraine sue. Maybe by 2019 the court will decide something, and then the transit contract will end.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Phantom Revolution

The transit price is fixed in the contract and if Gazprom does not agree to change these conditions, then there will be nothing or Ukraine will violate the contract, which will not speak in its favor as a transit country,

As far as I was interested in this topic, Ukraine has never really received this money. They were always deducted from the price of gas.

Simple and elegant move - to pay for transit as much as Kiev asks. By including this amount, of course, in the price of gas for Europe. And Ukraine doesn’t sell gas FOR ANY MONEY. Let Tseevropa heat with tires.

Somewhere in the Book of Fates it says we MUST sell gas to everyone who needs it? Without hiding behind vague formulations, openly say: "We do not like you, Bandera will come with you, put things in order and therefore we simply do not want to trade with you." Who's in the way? "Tamzhelyudi" are freezing?

The mayor of Genichesk showed everyone what kindness to "tamzhelyudy" turns out to be. It turns out that we simply store Ukrainian gas reserves. And also the American strategic reserves of oil and caviar?

[341712]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It turns out that we simply store Ukrainian gas reserves. And also the American strategic oil and black caviar reserves?

Nuuu ... so we are a kind of cross between a gas bottle and a refrigerator, which suddenly rebelled and still strives to drive through the wort and to break fingers with a valve ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: 341712

Nuuu ... so we are a kind of cross between a gas bottle and a refrigerator, which suddenly rebelled and still strives to drive through the wort and to break fingers with a valve ...

It will be necessary - we will break both the tinsel and the fingers, and pinch the balls with the door. Jumping ... The main thing is not to try to make yourself look good - no one will appreciate it. People understand, respect and value only power.

[Hariva]

[/ Quote]
that will speak not in her favor as a transit country, and will give a prident. [/ quote]
Who are precedents scaring now?

[AlexTires]

Quote: Phantom Revolution

if Gazprom does not agree to change these conditions, then nothing will happen or Ukraine will violate the agreement,

If in 404 they think that they are the geniuses of arbitration jurisprudence - then they are in the hands of the flag !!!

[beer-youk]

The recipient of this product pays for the transit of any product. This is an axiom. Unless otherwise expressly specified in the contract, the supplier - or a goof by definition or something from this contract raped!

[kuz363]

But the EU is not interested in whether it is cost-effective or not. These conditions should have been included in gas supply contracts. Gazprom does not supply gas because of its transit losses - it will pay a penalty for the interruption of supplies, usually in the amount of the cost of undelivered gas. Most likely, it will be cheaper to incur losses for the payment of transit, and these are mainly contracts until the 20's. And to Italy before 2035.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: kuz363

But the EU is not interested in whether it is cost-effective or not. These conditions should have been included in gas supply contracts. Gazprom does not supply gas because of its transit losses - it will pay a penalty for the interruption of supplies, usually in the amount of the cost of undelivered gas. Most likely, it will be cheaper to incur losses for the payment of transit, and these are mainly contracts until the 20's. And to Italy before 2035.

When Europe imposed sanctions, no one looked at the breakdown of treaties and contracts. Everyone didn’t give a damn about it.
Russia must also act and call it sanctions. We must again increase gas prices from 200 dollars to 400 dollars for 1000 cubic meters. meters of gas. Do not want to buy, let them buy from America at 2 times more expensive.

[meriem1]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Alexej

If Europeans have damn money, then please - raise it.

The price is determined by the formula and tied to petroleum products, it will simply become unprofitable transit through Ukraine.

It will become unprofitable after the end of the current contract !!!! Naftogaz will not be able to unilaterally change the price for transportation without Gazprom's approval. And then, there will be Nord Stream, there will be no. The Europeans have long been told, "We will not pump more through Ukraine. Solve this question yourself." That is why such a squeal is worth it. Therefore, Merkel is fussing and almost agrees to everything. Nobody is going to freeze because of Ukrov !!!

[Vend]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Alexej

If Europeans have damn money, then please - raise it.

The price is determined by the formula and tied to petroleum products, it will simply become unprofitable transit through Ukraine.

Well, not really like that. Ukraine raises transit prices, Russia raises prices for buyers, the EU raises prices for reverse gas for Ukraine. Svidomo do not understand simple mathematics. The west will not allow them to raise prices.

[vic58]

Sorry, the formula: OFFER / DEMAND + force majeure =
After all, no one knew that ...

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: cniza

The price is determined by the formula and tied to petroleum products, it will simply become unprofitable transit through Ukraine.

The planned gas price for Europe is 200 dollars for 1000 cubic meters. meters. Of these, only 8 dollars Ukraine wants to make money for itself. Well, there will be 208 dollars for 1000 cube. meters, not planned 205. What's wrong with the extra 3 dollars for 1000 cu. meters of gas.

But it is high time to abandon the binding to petroleum products. Our country is a "producer" of gas. We must set the price ourselves, depending on the need for this gas. Europe should be brought to its knees, and not crawled in front of them.

I believe that in all these gas companies, management is sheer traitors to Russia. They themselves have lowered the price of gas from 400 dollars to 200, and now everyone is howling from some extra 3 dollars for an 1000 cab. meters of gas.
It is necessary to change the terms of contracts and increase gas prices, and not whine. And these will be our additional sanctions to all who hate Russia!

[aleks 62 next]

..... The price is determined by the formula and tied to petroleum products ...

.... The price is determined not by wishlist, but by the current agreement of 2009 .... Under this agreement, the "brothers" still owe by the way for a shortage of somewhere around 20 with a tail of lards .... Now everything depends on the fortress of Gazprom's Faberge (stand on my own) .... As for me, I don’t like it, don’t download (transit) ..... It must be Evropa’s smut, not ours ....

[Cheshire]

A blessing in disguise. This will be a good advertisement for the South Stream project for countries that have forgotten the gas wars of the late 2000s.

[allllll]

These countries have contracts with Gazprom; they will receive gas at a contractual price or forfeit. Germany will win in all this, because it will close the holes in supplies from the pipe of the northern stream. Moreover, it will close at the expense of Gazprom, which will pay a penalty for disruption of supplies. Gazprom loses in any situation, it’s time to start a business with Ukraine.

[kryuger.mark]

How do you tie if the transit contract is up to 2019?

[BaLaLaykin]

will not be "Israeli stream " everything goes to this and very successfully

[GSH-18]

Media: the cost of transit of Russian gas through Ukraine may increase 3 times

This is a change in the terms of delivery through the fault of the transit. So, we must assign any increase to the European consumer. Until we begin to beat the stubborn Euro-humans with the ruble, Banderstat will profit from our gas and European stupidity.

[Pig]

"" that is, the amount specified in the contract from 2009 ""
these clowns refer to a contract that they themselves call "not legitimate" and violate it at the first opportunity))) and even filed a lawsuit ...
Yes, the wrong country was called Honduras ...

[mihasik]

Quote: Alexej

If Europeans have damn money, then please - raise it. 2 Nord Stream, when will you descend with a cold shower on the near rulers of small powers?

This is another "bullet", stuffing! If only the nerves of the people in the morning to "cheer up"!
The gas transit contract was signed up to 2019 inclusively. The rates are approved according to the gas price formula. And the fact that someone in Banderlyandia dreams of "cutting down the dough" on transit by raising rates (in violation of the contract), well ... I also dream of many things

[vodolaz]

I wonder how they are going to do this? They have an agreement until 2019.

[avdkrd]

Quote: Alexej

If Europeans have damn money, then please - raise it. 2 Nord Stream, when will you descend with a cold shower on the near rulers of small powers?

Yes, the brains of the rulers of the sovereigns may even be in order, another thing is that they are at work and cannot act and speak contrary to the instructions of the employer. As they put it, they will take it off, and not just take it off, but put it on a stake or hang it at best. So the only thing that remains for this gang of pederasts is to strictly follow the orders of the Washington regional committee, not paying attention to the destruction of their own country. All of them understand that such decisions are another nail in the coffin of Ukraine and about the loss of business reputation and the fact that the transit price increase will most likely fall on the end consumer (Europe). Cold showers for them will be news that America no longer needs them when they are disposed of like a used condom. all the prerequisites for this already exist - and Europe "suddenly" started talking about war crimes in the Donbass and Poroshenko is no longer a beacon of democracy and Yaytsenyukh is a cocaine addict and embezzler. Everything goes to the drain and all these brothers (through pi) go out of their way to prove their usefulness.

[Imperialkolorad]

And then they are surprised that we want to bypass gas pipelines in Banderstat.

[Greyhound famously]

And what you saw is strange. I’m a rosian and not a fan of the current government in Kiev, but nonetheless ... If our, Russian, manufacturers with the help of their state began to slowly learn to defend their rights and protect their interests, which causes quite a bit of irritation in the West, then why the same can not do Ukraine? There is a contract ... it stipulates the minimum transit volume, which allows the GTS to be cost-effective ... as far as you can understand from the article, Russia does not provide this minimum flow.
So why can the Ukrainian side not cover the costs that are not profitable at the expense of the party that does not comply with the contract?
Russia, if it wants to refuse Ukrainian transit, let it refuse. In the meantime, who can say that the Ukrainian side will agree to work at a loss?
Having learned to defend our interests, irritating others, we must learn to respect the right of others to do the same, even if it annoys us already.

[user1212]

Quote: Grizzled Dashing

There is a contract ... it stipulates the minimum transit volume, which allows the GTS to be cost-effective ... as far as you can understand from the article, Russia does not provide this minimum flow.

Indicate the clause of the transit contract in which it is stipulated. I did not find something

Quote: Grizzled Dashing

So why can the Ukrainian side not cover the costs that are not profitable at the expense of the party that does not comply with the contract?

1. What clause of the contract of the Russian Federation does not comply?
2. The transit fee is stipulated in article 8 and does not contain such a variable as "profitability of the Ukrainian gas transportation system"

Quote: Grizzled Dashing

who said that the Ukrainian side would agree to work at a loss?

The contract concluded. By the way, where did you get the idea that transit is unprofitable?

Quote: Grizzled Dashing

Having learned to defend our interests, irritating others, we must learn to respect the right of others to do the same, even if it annoys us already.

The contract stipulates the procedure for resolving disputes (Article 12). The desire of the left heel of Poroshenko is not mentioned there

[Greyhound famously]

except the last - taken from the article.
According to the latter, where is it written in the contract that Ukraine cannot change the cost of transit? Or where does the article say that she did this in violation of an existing contract?
I do not like? Go there - to the arbitration court. And there’s nothing to build of a resentful youngster who doesn’t know that this is how things are done

[cniza]

In addition, "the methodology for calculating the cost of transit is directly linked to the volume of pumping." Kiev requires the Russian side to book the maximum amount of pumping in the amount of 110 billion cubic meters per year, that is, the amount specified in the contract from 2009,

Wanting is not harmful, as soon as everyone will refuse services and build the Nord Stream 2.

[Voha_krim]

Quote: cniza

Wanting is not harmful, as soon as everyone will refuse services and build the Nord Stream 2.

The actions of the Ukrainian authorities will once again push European companies to the need for Nord Stream 2, and in the shortest possible time. As a result, transit through the territory of Ukraine will fall from the current 60 billion cubic meters. m per year, to zero!

[Pereira]

And what is written in the current contract?

[SSR]

Quote: Pereira

And what is written in the current contract?

And on which of the treaties do ukrovlasti not make violations? )))) they say the perfect saying
- The law is not written to fools.

The law is not written to fools, If it is written, it is not read, If it is read, it is not understood, If it is understood, then it is not so.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Pereira

And what is written in the current contract?

But really ... is there a contract text available for free?

[Bronik]

Let the EU pay Ukraine’s Wishlist.

[Brutal]

That is who the Europeans should impose sanctions on! For unbridled greed. Or will they swallow it in the name of supporting the "young democracy" ?!

[SAM 5]

And why not shift this service (transit) to a geyropu?

[izya top]

breach of contract by one party is force majeure? turn off the valve to hell, let the Europeans themselves with stubborn fun

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: izya top

breach of contract by one party is not force majeure?

Force majeure refers to force majeure circumstances, such as natural disasters, earthquakes, military operations, etc. The idiocy and greed of the counterparty does not apply to such circumstances; therefore, such disputes are resolved in courts of relevant competence.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Force majeure refers to force majeure circumstances, such as natural disasters, earthquakes, military operations, etc. The idiocy and greed of the counterparty does not apply to such circumstances.

Sorry! The counterparty's idiocy is just the most "natural disaster" for the rest of the parties to the contract. And for this reason, this freaked out counter-agent should be exponentially thrown out of the trilateral agreement, and pipes built bypassing the territory of the service are dictated by common sense and economic expediency. It remains to be done so that the Europeans feel it on their own skin.

[mpzss]

they are trying to squeeze the last crumbs until there is no other alternative, but I hope that Gazprom will still build its new pipelines!

[Dwarfik]

While this old pipe is in use, let them raise it! What does it say about linking transit prices and prices for end consumers? Hidden investment egeheyropy in dill?

[31rus]

Dear ones, we ourselves have put ourselves in a "pose for intercourse", once again, including about gas, the absence of a coherent policy towards Ukraine leads from the latter to actions "I do what I want and do."

[Alexandr2637]

Before they had time to get into the EU, Hohland had already begun to spoil them, because the geyrope would have to pay for gas transit.

[rotmistr60]

Kiev “has radically increased the rate of transit for Russian gas.”

We give them discounts or help poor Ukrainians, they are what we should expect from nationalist state leaders. Sami spoiled this hostile government, and themselves to disentangle.

[solovey]

When is it all over ?

[sl22277]

I think prices will rise for Europe too. Raise prices in accordance with the price of transportation, and let the EU deal with the Ukrainians themselves.

[VeterS]

The transit price is included in the total gas price for Europe. The increase in the pumping price by Ukraine does not in any way affect Europe, however, it is clear that in this case, Gazprom's income is reduced to a minimum. This is the value of Nord Streams, that pumping is practically not included in the total gas price for Europe. Which significantly increases your sales profit.

[sl22277]

Then this should speed up the construction of Nord Stream-2 at times. Ukraine is digging a hole for itself .. The current power of Ukropia is a “liquidation team” from the point of view of the economy, social sphere and even “the state as a holistic entity,” because there are no prerequisites for a bright future ..

[VeterS]

You are right, accelerating the construction of the SP-2 will only benefit Russia. But part of Europe, who is smarter, is not without interest. Notice how Poland is beating its head up against the wall. With the commissioning of the "SP-2", she, like Ukraine, is losing significant profits. This is also losing such a freebie in the form of transit fees.

[kuz363]

Yes, apparently the additional payment for transit will fall on Gazprom, respectively, and profit will fall

[kapitan92]

[quote = СРЦ П-15] [quote] Kiev requires the Russian side to reserve a maximum pumping volume of 110 billion cubic meters per year, that is, the volume specified in the contract of 2009. [/ quote]
Well, then Ukraine should also switch to the "take or pay" formula for payment for gas, and not pay only for the amount of gas purchased.
Absolutely true!
..... Ukraine, in fact, has never bought as much gas from Gazprom as it promised to buy in the contract of 2009. For a long time Russia looked at it through her fingers, only fixing fines for gas shortages. However, patience is over: Gazprom is suing Stockholm. The total debt of Naftogaz to Gazprom has grown to $ 29,5 billion ...... (15.05.15/XNUMX/XNUMX)
I would like to see a tougher policy of Gazprom towards Ukraine !!!!

[kuz363]

The practice of such courts on the "take or pay" principle shows that the Stockholm court always takes the side of the buyer and does not take this principle into account, although it is spelled out in the contract. Such courts were won by the Balts, Poland and others.

[ibu355yandex.ru]

It is doubtful that a geyropa will pay for raising tariffs for transporting gas through Khokhlyaniya! The gas price for the EU under the Treaty is fixed at the gas transmission point, and this is the border of Krajina and the EU. And all transportation costs are borne by the Russian Federation. Otherwise, hohlopiteks would not raise the price of transit. Everything is agreed by them with the Masters. And it is directed against Russia !!! There is no third...
And the term of the Agreement ends in 2019 year. It may be cheaper to break it!

[GSH-18]

Quote: ibu355yandex.ru

It may be cheaper to break it!

Estessno! Trading at a loss is contrary to all market laws taken together. I think yes! Break the contract and tighten the valve, warning the geyrop in advance. That's when the movement will go in terms of building new bypass routes for the delivery of Russian gas. And so, only one balance sheet and losses for Gazprom.

[kuz363]

It will not be cheaper. Calculate the cost of gas until 2019 - this will be the fine for Gazprom for disrupting gas supplies and violating the contract.

[BaLaLaykin]

you forget that under the contract we are obliged to transfer gas at the EU border, a specific transfer point is not indicated, so let them receive gas at the border between Finland and Germany, what kind of forfeit are we talking about?

[vobels]

When they create the SRA (Union of Republics of Ukraine).

[Stinger]

The recipe is simple. Raise the price of gas received by Europe through Ukraine by the same amount and lower gas prices for the Nord Stream. And let the mosquito sing over this grave.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Stinger

The recipe is simple. Raise the price of gas received by Europe through Ukraine by the same amount and lower gas prices for the Nord Stream. And let the mosquito sing over this grave.

There, a tripartite supply agreement through Banderstat is artfully registered. Lawyers have to work. It just won’t work out that way.

[artist-mamluk]

Damn, what to do with the sun, it also transits from Ukraine to the west through Ukraine. A joke of humor to this idiocy.

[Alexey-74]

Quickly, Nord Stream-2 would be launched. Ukraine understands perfectly well the consequences of this - you won’t last long on the reverse, and pi ----- gas will not work during transit anymore, and there will be no income from gas transportation .... like that

[anfil]

There are still many kicking.

Poland, which opposes the construction of the second line of the Nord Stream gas pipeline, intends to appeal to the European Commission, Polish President Andrzej Duda said at a press conference in Brussels.

Earlier, he said that Poland does not agree with investments in the construction of the gas pipeline, considers the project political, unprofitable from the point of view of the economy.

"(Nord Stream 2 - ed.) Strikes at the interests in the energy sector not only of Poland, but also of Ukraine ... In this regard, we are going to appeal to the European Commission," Duda said.

[Neko75]

Quote: ibu355yandex.ru

It is doubtful that a geyropa will pay for raising tariffs for transporting gas through Khokhlyaniya! The gas price for the EU under the Treaty is fixed at the gas transmission point, and this is the border of Krajina and the EU. And all transportation costs are borne by the Russian Federation. Otherwise, hohlopiteks would not raise the price of transit. Everything is agreed by them with the Masters. And it is directed against Russia !!! There is no third...
And the term of the Agreement ends in 2019 year. It may be cheaper to break it!

It certainly will not fall on Russia. Under the agreement, the price of transit cannot increase without the agreement of three parties - the seller, the buyer and the one who transits. If one of the participants violates the contract, then at the discretion of the other parties, penalties are applied or the contract is terminated.

[Mountain shooter]

Nezalezhniki try their last bit to shit under the door. Already there is nothing, but they are pushing, already eyes on the forehead. Yes, we will survive these, "galloping".

[kenig1]

For this reason, we will increase the price for Europe and reverse gas for the Maidan will also increase.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Nezalezhniki try their last bit to shit under the door. Already there is nothing, but they are pushing, already eyes on the forehead. Yes, we will survive these, "galloping".

........ A dangerous infectious disease, A (H1N1) or swine flu in Russia was brought in from Ukraine. This was stated by the Minister of Health of the Russian Federation Veronika Skvortsova, while in Kaliningrad on a working visit ......... They know how to spoil!

[Barakuda]

I expected more stupid news from the country where I still live. But I did not know that so soon.

[anfil]

Rosneft is selling its network of filling stations (filling stations) in Ukraine to the Swiss Glusco Energy SA, OilNews reports, citing its own sources in the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine (AMCU).

"The application was submitted on January 4, the buyer is Glusco Energy SA, Switzerland," the newspaper quotes its interlocutor. RN-Ukraine (coordinates the activities of the Rosneft filling station network in Ukraine) and the AMCU do not comment on the situation.

The Rosneft filling station network in Ukraine includes 141 facilities in 12 regions of the country operating under the Formula, TNK, Zolotoy Gepard, Smile brands.

[31rus]

Further, what? Oil, whose will be Shvetsarskaya?

[Dam]

This is the rationale for Nord Stream 2

[Ros 56]

Another reason to go to court. There are no reasons to increase the payment for transit. This statement of ukropiteks only confirms the correctness of the termination in 19 of any relations on gas transit with all the ensuing.

[Flinky]

Hospadya, well, the stink is ... But didn’t think that all this chatter is for internal use?

[Tambov Wolf]

People, what are you fucking asses here? They spit on us from the high bell tower. Our traders will give everything for a ruble, it still goes into their pockets. In the dying USA, gasoline dropped to 10-17 rubles, I emphasize again, rubles per liter, but we will again raise google for the price). Where is the "reprisal" with the Turks? They spit on us and spit, they kill the country with tomatoes. There is one noodle with boast. Enemies of the people for a day give five predictions against the people and the country, but Solntselikiy praises them for their excellent work. Where is the limit of mockery of the country? Shame and disgrace.

[kapitan92]

And why go so far, America is beyond okiyanom. The fuel market in Bulgaria was divided by two companies "OMV" (Austria) and "Lukoil" (Russia). Lukoil has an oil refinery in Bulgaria and about 200 filling stations. Since 2014, due to the fall in oil prices, Lukoil has reduced gasoline prices from 2,6 levs to 1.94 levs per liter, by about 23%. In Russia, during this time, prices for Lukoil rose by 20%. The math is simple.
They promise that gasoline will rise in price by the spring, just in time for the sowing season. The theater of the absurd, not the economy.

[iouris]

Ha, ha, ha. "Ukraine" buys cheap gas from Gazprom in Slovakia, after taking money for transit. It turns out cheap and cheerful.
By the way, the gas is not "Russian", but "Gazprom" (flies exist separately from cutlets).

[AlexTires]

The final price of gas includes the cost of transit, more expensive transit - more expensive gas ... The end user, that is, the EU, will pay as always, and for this Ukraine will not be patted on the head, but on the ass. The end of the story.

[Evgeni]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: cniza

The price is determined by the formula and tied to petroleum products, it will simply become unprofitable transit through Ukraine.

The planned gas price for Europe is 200 dollars for 1000 cubic meters. meters. Of these, only 8 dollars Ukraine wants to make money for itself. Well, there will be 208 dollars for 1000 cube. meters, not planned 205. What's wrong with the extra 3 dollars for 1000 cu. meters of gas.

somewhere you forgot to calculate the length of the pipe in Ukraine, it is not 100km :)

[olimpiada15]

Tired of all this oil and gas mess.
It’s time for Russia to come to its senses and stop being a gas station.
The economic aspect of the fast high profitability of hydrocarbon exports has proven to be bankrupt. A gas pipe makes the Russian state a vassal of consumers. Tomorrow, the Russian Federation, as a real slave, will be obliged not only to supply energy resources free of charge, but also to pay extra for this.
It would seem that those who believe that the USSR collapsed because of $ 15 oil prices, when creating a new state, they should have foreseen risks from an economy based on the export of raw materials and energy resources.
But either the supporters of this point of view do not believe their words, or they don’t value the state, but they didn’t draw any conclusions.
The first bell rang in 2008: how clearly then did the fall in oil prices and the Ossetian conflict coincide, but those in power were not puzzled again.
And so, please, as soon as Russia grabbed the USA’s hand, which took up the destruction of another state in the BV (remember before Syria it was the SFRY, Iraq, Libya, which ceased to be independent states in fact, turning into hotbeds of military conflict), how Ukraine came to power fascists-Bandera, oil rapidly rolled down, carrying with it the economy of the Russian Federation.
Now it’s clear that these are not random coincidences, but a pattern.
And the country must defend itself, for it is a kind of economic war in which all countries that integrate into the international economy without fail participate. And there’s only one way out
1) there should be an intrastate segment of the economy, independent from the outside and not integrated into international relations, at least, this is defense, food.
2) the share of hydrocarbon exports in the country's budget should be reduced as much as possible; investing in the development of an international network of hydrocarbon pipelines is not reasonable; this makes the country dependent, dependence will be aggravated, such are the laws of competition in international business, grab and strangle for any weak spot. This is the law of capitalism, nothing personal.
But again the same thing happens: the tops either don’t think, or they don’t value the state, or they don’t believe their own words.

[lukewarm]

Quote: olimpiada15

Tomorrow, the Russian Federation, as a real slave, will be obliged not only to supply energy resources free of charge, but also to pay extra for this.

It happened before. By production sharing agreement. Putin is credited that he buried this agreement and that oil and gas money went to the budget.

[avg-mgn]

Interestingly, and for reverse gas supplies from Europe to Ukraine, will there also be the same transit prices?

They deduct the cost of transit from the price of transit gas (bastard from their cunning, and the minus transit rate falls into their pockets through Naftagaz. The cost of that gas does not change - this is such arithmetic.

[kapitan92]

Quote: kuz363

The practice of such courts on the "take or pay" principle shows that the Stockholm court always takes the side of the buyer and does not take this principle into account, although it is spelled out in the contract. Such courts were won by the Balts, Poland and others.

........ Gazprom sent NAK Naftogaz Ukrainy an invoice for payment of gas not selected by a Ukrainian company in the third quarter of 2015 under a take-or-pay condition for $ 2,549 billion, the company said in a statement. .

The company notes that in accordance with the gas purchase and sale contract between Gazprom and Naftogaz Ukrainy, the buyer is required to pay a minimum annual amount of gas annually. Based on the terms of the contract, the minimum annual amount in the III quarter of 2015 amounted to 10,485 billion cubic meters of gas ...... 19.01.16/XNUMX/XNUMX
You're right! The precedent has been created. The Italian company lost the trial to Naftogaz. The Stockholm court did not satisfy the claim of the Italians in the amount of 260 million dollars, but imposed a fine on Naftogaz in the amount of 12.5 million dollars in favor of the Italians. Perhaps this is Gazprom's strategy if the fine is about 5% of the amount. . bucks. I am sure that an equally qualified team of lawyers works for Gazprom, in any case I would like to hope so.

[31rus]

Dear, I see you are so worried about Gas Industrial? What is Nord Stream 2, to whom? Countries that do not consider us human, countries that contributed to the crisis in Ukraine, countries that are pushing troops to our borders. People wake up, we are feeding from the hands of their enemies, if they supply gas, oil, then only for the necessary technologies, production. The Americans will occupy the market, but let them occupy, they still bend the EU as they want, what nonsense, Europe imposes sanctions, thereby violating its own obligations , we are pulling a new branch

[lukewarm]

What you offer is perfect. That’s why it’s impossible. So far, the Gaidar-Chubais fosterlings are in power in our country. They feed from hand and feed from hand, they are flesh from the flesh west. The worst part of it, because the West is still far away, and these bastards are making an unbearable life for us here and now. The only difference is that then we also brazenly spat in the face. Than almost brought to the explosion. Now they all love death for their homeland.

[bobba94]

The article is not dumb, but very dumb. Such is all patriotic and snotty. Not a word about who, in the end, pays for gas transit - the seller or the buyer. Not a word about the tariff for gas transit in transit countries. How much, for example, does gas transit take from Slovakia, a typical Eastern European country?

[BaLaLaykin]

Yes, comrades from Israel will forgive me, but all these tricks with their ears look like removing a competitor from Eastern Europe (Gazprom) and clearing a place for Israeli gas, first, South Stream was cut down by pressure on Bulgaria, a provocation was planned for Turkish Stream. Turkey, for one and the removal of a competitor, for its gas. The war in Syria, so as not to let Qatari gas into Europe and Turkey, new sanctions against Iran, so as not to increase the volume of supplies to Turkey and for one thing put an end to Turkey's dream of becoming a gas hub .The war in Ukraine, in order to complicate the supply of Russian gas to Europe, for one to clear a place for its gas, by supplying gas from Europe to Ukraine. So if you imagine the Israeli flow as an inevitable reality, then the whole mosaic falls into place

[Oleg56.ru]

Let's go}} {yy, there is no gas transit through 404!

[gergi]

With occupants are not traded. Kakly occupied? Occupied! Here, sit and don’t .... those!