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Effective manager and his cutter

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About Russian education and the Russian economy - together ... It so happened that the beginning of 2016 of the year was rich in events directly or indirectly related to the educational system, which in fact is one of the main components of the issue of Russia's national security. It is difficult to imagine a state that, as its primary goal, set a goal to develop a country against the background of protecting national interests, but would not pay due attention to the educational environment. It is even more difficult to imagine a positive future for the state if it focuses on education only when it comes to the next plan to conduct a destructive experiment on the educational environment, turning the Russian school itself (in the broad sense of the word) into a laboratory mouse with all the consequences .


In general, it just so happened that when officials suddenly embraced a creative impulse, during which they are going to “take up the education system,” people employed in this system most often clutch their hearts with a shuffle: if only not for a new stage of reform. .

However, it also happens that in a number of cases initiatives are voiced that I would like to treat with a positive one. So in the course of the “Gaidar Forum”, about which the material was already published on our website, one of the participants of the discussion, namely the Chairman of the Board of Sberbank of Russia, German Gref, the idea that attracted attention was voiced. Gref, who, frankly, is difficult to attribute to the ideologues of heightened business responsibility before the interests of the state and the population, suddenly said that the decision of the Russian government to cut spending on 10% "in proportion to all spheres due to the economic crisis" may cause irreparable hit. According to Gref, if funds are withdrawn from the expenditure side of the educational budget, too, such withdrawals can ultimately lead to a complete degradation of the education system in the country, which (the education system) should always remain a priority in any self-respecting state. According to the head of the Sberbank, reducing state funding of the educational sector, Russia is depriving itself of innovative perspectives, technological development and, as a result, competitiveness in the world market, and therefore finances allocated for education cannot be cut.

Apparently, after such a statement, and even from Gref (namely, from Gref, frankly speaking, nothing like this was expected ...), even to the Minister of Finance Siluanov, who offered to cut budget expenditures "proportionally", it became uncomfortable ...

Effective manager and his cutter


Mr. Siluanov, who was honored by correspondence criticism even from a colleague on the liberal team - from Gref, in general became, if one may say so, the anti-hero of the past week. The fact is that in addition to announcing plans to cut state budget spending, including cutting spending on education, the head of the Russian Ministry of Finance announced that Russia was “close to repeating the 1998-1999 crisis.” After these words, even Dmitry Medvedev had to wake up, saying that Siluanov, they say, bends, and there are no risks for the Russian economy capable of plunging the country into default and the total fall in industrial production of the 1998 sample of the year is not present. That’s what the chairman of the Russian government, who only said a month ago, said that the crisis, you see, was left behind ... Then Dmitry Medvedev had to comment on the words of President Vladimir Putin, who said that it was not about the passing of the crisis, but about “passing peak of crisis ".

The statements of the head of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation were noted in the OP of the Russian Federation. Having singled out for himself a selection of a number of the last (at the moment) statements by Mr. Siluanov, representatives of the Public Chamber of Russia decided that the minister was obviously “tired” and that it was time for the minister to declare: “I am leaving” ...

In the newspaper "News" It was reported that the first deputy chairman of the commission on social policy of the RF OP Georgy Fedorov January 17 posted on the site “Russian Public Initiative” a petition calling for the resignation of the current Minister of Finance for his words “about the possibility of repeating the situation of 1998-1999 without reducing budget expenditures”.

But unless the reason for the minister’s resignation to the federal authorities is the fact that the minister actually signs off the inability to create an effective mechanism for developing the economy and is ready to cut everything, even to finance the program of building preschool institutions, activities of general educational and special educational institutions, scientific work in universities ... It may turn out that these promises of the Minister of Finance to his colleagues in the federal authorities will not seem anything reprehensible again, and financing -strategic importance for the country's industries (namely - education), too, will go under the knife. The Minister will remain in his warm place, with a non-optimized salary, with a full package of “all-inclusive”, which means we should expect a big cut-off - where 10% is today, there and everything is 50% tomorrow. And despite the fact that the level of efficiency in the use of funds in a number of programs remains, to put it mildly, at a low level. And while the ministry of finance is thinking how to cut the funding of education in Russia again, somewhere quietly, excuse me, withdraw another official from the federal program who was not caught (or caught, but released “due to lack of crime) another official who decided that the dacha in Courchevel ( decorated on a mother-in-law) - a good family airbag in a crisis ... What kind of education is there ... To slaves to study is not supposed to ...
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 19 January 2016 06: 35 New
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    To this topic.

    "the truth is always one." (with)

    1. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 19 January 2016 06: 49 New
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      As always, in difficult times, you can immediately see who is who. You can cut the budget, teachers and doctors live better than anyone, especially better than the snickering males of the Gaidar forum. About the adoption of laws against thieves, about taking under state administration and control of the utilities and energy sectors again not a word.
      Naturally, the President doesn’t go to such forums. For such gatherings Medvedev just right. And of course they will cut the education, Siluanov is not necessary for educated servants. The liberal opponent Gref modestly wants to have his own savings bank, however he already has it. Chubais, well, he should look at the forum from Lefortovo or Sailor silence, but no. Also, people are teaching how to tighten their belt. Not 37 same year. And in my opinion it's already time. Just right.
      1. Skif83
        Skif83 19 January 2016 08: 05 New
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        I agree to all 100%!
        Especially after this:
        ... after such words even Dmitry Medvedev had to wake up, saying that Siluanov, they say, goes too far, and the Russian economy, which could plunge the country into default and a total drop in industrial production of the 1998 model, has no risks today. That is exactly what the chairman of the Russian government said, who only a month ago stated that the crisis, you see, was left behind ...
        .
        This only says one thing: all their bravura speeches have nothing to do with reality, they do not control anything, they can’t predict anything and they don’t even try to rectify the situation.
        And that’s why GDP is not present at these “rivals”, he, in fact, admits that he does not control the situation, and he, in fact, is on the content of precisely these “economists” !?
        Otherwise, everything about Lefortovo, Sailor silence, etc. would have acted!
        1. dauria
          dauria 19 January 2016 12: 27 New
          +8
          And that’s why GDP isn’t present at these “litters”, he essentially admits that he doesn’t control the situation, and he, in fact, on the content precisely these "economists" !?


          laughing Foolish !!! Well, yes, let’s give the Oscar GDP for the best “brutal” male role. To know who the director is. It’s a pity, life isn’t TV-you can’t throw it out of the balcony.
      2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 19 January 2016 08: 18 New
        +9
        Quote: USSR 1971
        As always, in difficult times, you can immediately see who is who.

        This suggests that this person has no influencesOf course, it’s easier for them to manage, but why do we need people who in such positions are not able to decide anything themselves, so they whine and cut the weak!
        1. umah
          umah 19 January 2016 09: 18 New
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          In my opinion, Siluanov is absolutely incompetent, both in deeds and in statements. At a forecasting level such as “tomorrow the economy may collapse, or may become stronger”, any IP-person from the market will be able to replace it. Shame on you! When I see and hear him on TV, I get it right.
        2. bandabas
          bandabas 19 January 2016 22: 01 New
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          And I felt sorry for Siluanov. His face is sad. But that's okay. His will not surrender him. Transfer to another bread position. We decided how. For a stolen sausage stick - 5 years of general regime, and for the manslaughter (through negligence) of a drug addict who molested his daughter and burst into the apartment for 6,5 years of strict regime. But for the murder of two people in a drunken state by a car - 3,5 years of settlement with the prospect of parole. Well, I’m silent about Ms. Vasilyeva and Mr. Serdyukov. Not relevant. We drove a long time ago. New heroes are waiting for us.
      3. andrew42
        andrew42 19 January 2016 09: 05 New
        +5
        Well, the 37th year is not worth it. And even the people themselves will pay "chips." But the 39th year - just right. Lavrenty Pavlovich simply asks to be the curator of this "forum."
      4. Vovan 73
        Vovan 73 19 January 2016 11: 11 New
        +5
        In order for 1937 to come, first you need to meet 1917 .... I feel it's time, oh time ...
      5. ioann1
        ioann1 19 January 2016 15: 41 New
        +3
        "The president is naturally not on such forums." What are you? Do you seriously think that Putin didn’t go there? If a forum is being held, if the ideas of this forum are being realized, then the president has just two legs there. The absence of him on the forum does not mean his disagreement with him. Loans are frozen by a crazy interest rate, cash in the country decreased to 40% of the turnover. In China, 150% of the cash flow. In the storage of Siluanov in the "freeze" 1 ​​trillion. rubles !! There is no other way to explain that the government, through its inaction, is pushing the country to the abyss. The middle class is approaching the poverty line. Further to where ...
    2. max702
      max702 19 January 2016 08: 41 New
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      Regarding the "Gaidar gathering," here on an adjacent resource was an article Results of the Gaidar Forum.http://finobzor.ru/show-4095-itogi-gaydarovskogo-foruma-upravlyaet-li-kabinet-me
      dvedeva-rossiey.html
      And here is the list of people who participated in this Sabbath But for starters, it’s probably worth listing the most prominent participants in the forum, held under the slogan “Russia and the world: a look into the future”. Dmitry Medvedev, Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation. Sergey Naryshkin, Chairman of the State Duma. Igor Shuvalov, First Deputy Prime Minister. Anton Siluanov, Minister of Finance. Alexey Ulyukaev, Minister of Economic Development. Denis Manturov, Minister of Industry and Trade. Maxim Topilin, Minister of Labor and Social Protection. Maxim Sokolov, Minister of Transport. Alexander Novak, Minister of Energy. Nikolai Nikiforov, Minister of Telecom and Mass Communications. Veronika Skvortsova, Minister of Health. Mikhail Abyzov, minister without a portfolio, curator of the Open Government project. And also Alexander Galushka, Minister for Development of the Far East. Lev Kuznetsov, Minister for the Affairs of the North Caucasus. Tatyana Golikova, Chairman of the Accounts Chamber. Ksenia Yudaeva, Deputy Chairman of the Central Bank. German Gref, Chairman of the Board of Sberbank. And more than two hundred statesmen in the rank of deputy ministers, heads of federal services, governors, deputies of the State Duma and the Federation Council, etc. Add to them the representatives of large business - industrial and banking, as well as such "figures of influence" as Anatoly Chubais, Alexei Kudrin, Vladimir Mau, Leonid Gozman - and the picture of Russian participation in the Gaidar discourse will be more or less complete. It seems to me that this list should be FAST! Of course, a thorough investigation at first (this is far from all), and then according to merit to whom the loop, and to whom the bullet .. I’ll be sure to find facts on one or the other with interest ..
      rs: Recently we had such a great financier Fix, since when he was no longer in power but still in the subject of what was happening, as in an interview, he talked about such an unpopular topic as raising the retirement age and voiced the numbers that it would give for the budget, they went out there funny pennies at which he himself laughed and directly said from the point of view of economics this makes very little sense, but from the point of view of political opinion, it’s the most political thing to loosen public opinion .. I repeat, he was only just moved away from a delicious pie, and in his a clear resentment of what had happened sounded in his voice, and so he let out an upset, although being in power he was broadcasting the very opposite ..
    3. silver_roman
      silver_roman 19 January 2016 11: 36 New
      +7
      it is the Gaidar forum that should be the target of "terrorists", freely falling space bodies, UFOs, may be an accidental deviation from the course of a missile with a combat unit!
      Why ... why none of these factors "accidentally" coincide with the date of the forum ???? as a last resort, test the newest tanker over this forum ... carrying pianos.
      My heart would never have been so happy to see the piano fall on SILUANOVA and other things ..... s!
  2. Amurets
    Amurets 19 January 2016 06: 39 New
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    It seems to me that Siluanov will be very comfortable at the Kolyma goldfields and very comfortable if all his wealth is confiscated to compensate for the harm done to Russia.
    1. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 19 January 2016 07: 06 New
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      It’s not that hate, I just really want the children of Mr. Siluanov to study in a simple Russian school, and the family was treated in a regular district clinic. And happiness, health, mind. If possible on an equal footing with other conditions. Directions in transport and utilities naturally on a common basis, products from Dixie.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 19 January 2016 10: 09 New
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      He will not be at any mine - the time will come removed from the post and not just him.
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 19 January 2016 06: 46 New
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    Once upon a time it was time to drive this gang of "economists" into the neck. It seems that they personally received education on the "Bad Advice" of Oster.
  4. ImPerts
    ImPerts 19 January 2016 06: 58 New
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    Not an economist, so I will not give advice. But for such a period of time it is already possible to understand who is stealing and who is not. It is time to introduce, or rather return, confiscation of property, including from relatives. And I agree with the need for a ban on the next of kin to engage in entrepreneurial activity and occupy leadership positions.
    1. forester
      forester 19 January 2016 07: 25 New
      +9
      They won’t return the confiscation - talk about this has been going on for many years but no more. Do you really think that those who, in the conditions of a budget deficit, increase their already high salary by half will bring themselves under the article
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      2. ImPerts
        ImPerts 19 January 2016 07: 42 New
        +2
        They want, they don’t want, but they have to make a decision. Eh, a new dawn is coming ...
    2. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 19 January 2016 09: 05 New
      +9
      Quote: ImPerts
      It is time to introduce, or rather return, confiscation of property, including from relatives

      Much has been said about this, including in our Duma, only the Duma members are categorically against confiscation! How is it to carve yourself? And the Guarantor is silent! Is he the same thief?
      1. Hon
        Hon 19 January 2016 11: 13 New
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        Quote: Saratoga833
        And the Guarantor is silent! Is he the same thief?

        And what did the guarantor do when he first came to power? He adopted the law "On Grants to the President" under this law, he is not at all judged, and will be provided with everything, including protection, until the end of his life. First of all, he took care of his well-being and safety. Security comes first from the law
      2. Wheel
        Wheel 19 January 2016 20: 54 New
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        Quote: Saratoga833
        And the Guarantor is silent! Is he the same thief?

        The question is rhetorical?
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 19 January 2016 10: 12 New
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      This year, such a law should be adopted on relatives and on the return of the loot - regional officials will not be able to sell land.
  5. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 19 January 2016 07: 00 New
    +6
    Recently I talked with school teachers ... after a long argument they gave me - the school should not give knowledge .. we should only instill a desire for this knowledge among students. And everything else should be done by parents. So I am not against cutting funding for education. Anyway, you’ll have to pay from your own pocket to give this knowledge at least somewhere .. once the school refuses.
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 19 January 2016 07: 51 New
      +8
      Do you think something has changed dramatically? I was instilled in the Soviet school with a craving for knowledge. I read a lot of things myself and how. At school, in the lessons they gave a volume of knowledge, but the rest depended on the student's desire and control by the parents.
      Doctors will also say about craving for health. They will not be able to give you a ton of health. Help save more yes. But there again, all by yourself.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 19 January 2016 08: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexander S.
      Recently I talked with school teachers ... after a long argument they gave me - the school should not give ...

      ... she must take!
      She takes it! Often - "not by rank" ... but much more!
    3. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 19 January 2016 13: 29 New
      +1
      school should not give knowledge .. we should only instill a craving for this knowledge among students. And everything else should be done by parents.

      what is wrong here? if there is no desire to learn, no one will put brains into his head, although progress is certainly going on! They told us at the institute - we do not force you to memorize material, we teach you how to work with it, and know where to get it to solve a particular problem, and most importantly - the ability to formulate a task! A school, an institute is a brain training, a kind of simulator for a pilot, only here flight is life. And further. Plus, Soviet education is the versatile development of the personality, unless of course normal teachers ... The desire to learn is the ability of a teacher to arouse interest in his subject, even if it is never useful in life. The question is why do we need to learn Pushkin’s poems if we never recite them anywhere except in school? repeat
  6. Grandfather Luka
    Grandfather Luka 19 January 2016 07: 02 New
    +4
    It’s good to see through the education system, and the funds of Soros are not happy with the prospect of getting less money.
    1. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 22 January 2016 22: 57 New
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      Yes, Sly Grandfather. The ways of Grefova are inscrutable. But the "silk-liberal" way of the eye blurs and knows.
      I remember:
      St. George in battle
      On a dashing horse sits.
      Runs in the face of a spear.
      Pokes the snake in the ass.
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 19 January 2016 07: 15 New
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    Hu from Mr. Putin? Yes, and I wonder who he is. A helpless politician who is not able to restore order in the government, this is with 85% support from the population. Or a member of a group that privatized Russia and defends their interests. Yes, there is certainly a faint hope that he will secretly carry out the modernization of the country under the guise of all the scandals and soon everyone will see these results. Crimea is certainly a plus, but it didn’t go further, and everyone was waiting, not only for Donbas, but also for changes in the economy to remove parasites of the Yeltsin era from the elite and from the government, and they received the Boris memorial.
    1. Jack-b
      Jack-b 19 January 2016 07: 53 New
      -6
      Quote: Alex66
      and everyone was waiting

      This is such a main phrase. Type of reservation on Freud. Those. instead of rolling up their sleeves and plowing .... "everyone was waiting" .... they read the Internet, wrote articles and posts, and waited ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 19 January 2016 10: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: Jack-B
        Those. instead of rolling up their sleeves and plowing.

        Where to plow, and with what salary? A lot of you got divorced, advisers, they say you have to work. We work, don’t worry, now nobody feeds for free. And what’s online now - I’m on the phone, they’ll call - I’ll go to work, and with my hands.
        The thing is that the government of "effective" managers is changing places in positions, and thieves are cheating impudently. Or do you think both Makarevich and Gozman that "our" government was out of luck with the people? wink
        1. Hon
          Hon 19 January 2016 11: 19 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Do you think both Makarevich and Gozman that "our" government was out of luck with the people?

          Our government is very lucky with the people
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 19 January 2016 13: 03 New
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            Quote: Hon
            Our government is very lucky with the people

            This is exactly where you’ll cut such a freebie! laughing
        2. Rivares
          Rivares 19 January 2016 21: 16 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Where to plow, and with what salary?

          yeah, there is a salary, I'm a patriot. no salary is not at work.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Do you think both Makarevich and Gozman that "our" government was out of luck with the people?

          Yes, their government (of biblical nationality) is definitely not lucky with our people.
    2. Jack-b
      Jack-b 19 January 2016 07: 53 New
      -3
      Quote: Alex66
      and everyone was waiting

      This is such a main phrase. Type of reservation on Freud. Those. instead of rolling up their sleeves and plowing .... "everyone was waiting" .... they read the Internet, wrote articles and posts, and waited ...
      1. Alex66
        Alex66 19 January 2016 08: 28 New
        +4
        Yes they waited, we are like soldiers, we don’t shoot without a team. Ukraine is near, but there are enough examples from the history.
    3. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 19 January 2016 09: 11 New
      +7
      Quote: Alex66
      There is certainly a faint hope that he will secretly carry out the modernization of the country under the guise of all scandals and soon everyone will see these results.

      I have no hope! The Secret Plan is an excuse for someone who cannot or does not want to do anything! And we won’t see any results until Putin is in power!
    4. Hell's Angel
      Hell's Angel 19 January 2016 10: 06 New
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      A ship is sailing and suddenly jumps aground or rams another, lost its course, the team began to swell, the old man was an unwise person. Who's guilty? Captain! So a country with a presidential form of government is responsible for everything the president! First-time rag, take another, the team rebels, the core at the feet and at sea. And if the captain is kindhearted, then you can them on a desert island. What do we have there, in the Arctic Ocean? The main thing is not to have time to fade to the habitable!
      Here I wrote this koment back in October 2014.
    5. Sunseich
      Sunseich 19 January 2016 10: 52 New
      +2
      straight my thoughts crying
    6. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 January 2016 12: 11 New
      +8
      Quote: Alex66
      removal of parasites of the Yeltsin era

      That "Moscow", that "Petersburg" - these are all different clubs of the same oligarch league ... (former party-economic and Komsomol-trade union workers who were "assigned to" cash in perestroika times in the regional committee ...)
    7. Consul-t
      Consul-t 19 January 2016 13: 50 New
      +6
      Hu from Mr. Putin? Yes, and I wonder who he is. A helpless politician who is not able to restore order in the government, this is with 85% support from the population. Or a member of a group that privatized Russia and defends their interests.


      Now Sasha Romanov will ban you for such words. This goes beyond the rules ...
    8. epsilon571
      epsilon571 19 January 2016 14: 04 New
      +6
      Alex66 RU Today
      Hu from Mr. Putin? Yes, and I wonder who he is. A helpless politician who is not able to restore order in the government, this is with 85% support from the population. Or a member of a group that privatized Russia and defends their interests.


      Unfortunately, your thoughts are correct. Putin is a grateful follower of his mentors. A petty official selected from simple "frogs", he conscientiously fulfilled his mission - he did not allow the redistribution of property of ambitious representatives of the ruling elite, retained his nepotism in the power structures, and claimed his place on Olympus. Today, he is only interested in one thought - to hold on to the next election, so that he would later quietly dissolve somewhere in the warm regions leaving a successor.

      A country like air needs structural transformations; clowning in the government will soon seem not funny to many of us. It’s time to understand already - there is no future for Putin, then there’s only a dead end!
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 19 January 2016 14: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: epsilon571
        he faithfully fulfilled his mission - he did not allow the redistribution of property of ambitious representatives of the ruling elite,

        The main thing was to take time to finally leave the generation that remembers the USSR at the genetic level to knock down protest and, under false patriotic speeches, continue to redistribute national property in favor of a group of close people, reinforcing this redistribution by anti-people’s laws. budget and media.
        One tearing up the EEC and its privatization is worth it.
        But the “enemies" are to blame for everything, who do not want to buy oil from us for 150 Baku raccoons.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 January 2016 07: 41 New
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    If the forum is called "Gaidarovsky", then what can be expected from its participants, the bulk of which in the 90s stood for anti-people reforms.
  9. Jack-b
    Jack-b 19 January 2016 07: 47 New
    -10
    How good it is to write articles now. Pulled out of context a couple of phrases "more generous", the main thing that people would like. And slap the article on a bunch of pluses.
  10. 31rus
    31rus 19 January 2016 07: 47 New
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    Dear ones, I saw this interview by Gref, but even more “strong”, these are the questions of MP Makarov, to which not one of the ministers could even answer closely, it became clear that the government, and therefore the president, has no plan for overcoming the crisis that is not near No perspective, everything revolves around oil and gas, there is no concept for the development of the country as a whole, what we want, what needs to be done, this is important and not present, despite all the statements, the country is confidently heading for an economic, social collapse and this can no longer be hidden , that’s why calls for a change in policy are getting louder and louder, which isn’t answered either by the government or the president, and time is running out. He wrote in a neighboring village with a population of 3000 inhabitants, the school was closed, the hospital was closed a year ago. Ministers live in Moscow , and we are in Russia
  11. vadgen
    vadgen 19 January 2016 08: 07 New
    -1
    The author seriously believes that the Minister of Finance should be responsible for ensuring that
    "create an effective mechanism for economic development"?
    1. almen1
      almen1 19 January 2016 08: 32 New
      +5
      And who should create it?
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 19 January 2016 13: 54 New
        +3
        And who should create it?
        I assume that the Minister of Economic Development is Mr. Ulyukaev. This, the minister has recently quieted down something, and even as a holy fool, everything was broadcasting about the collapse of the economy. I really want to know what the Ministry of Economic Development has achieved under the leadership of this person. hi
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  12. Skalpel
    Skalpel 19 January 2016 08: 27 New
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    "As you name the ship, it will float." The speech of Muk Siluanov with "cutting spending on education", with the name of the forum in honor of one of the most important Western henchmen, coincided very symbolically. Which at one time he personally pounded the lid of the same concocted coffin for the system of vocational education. Siluanov at night under the covers of Gaidar’s “works”, probably, re-reads.
    You look at these well-fed smug faces of the forum participants, into those eyes, covered by the fat of your own interests and boredom - and all the questions immediately disappear, such as - why, laws on complete confiscation have not yet been adopted? to ban bureaucrats from doing business? why - the more you stole, the less time you got ???
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 January 2016 13: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Skalpel
      the more you stole, the less time you got

      Because, the more stolen - the fatter "shared" you know with whom laughing
      By the way, the criminal case against Yevtushenkov was closed for lack of staff - he is now a "bona fide acquirer" ...
  13. Skalpel
    Skalpel 19 January 2016 08: 43 New
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    I would like to evaluate the activities of our ministers, for some reason, only obscenities ....
    There are no working development programs !! The declared results from the reforms - no !! Those reforms, projects, reconstruction, construction projects that, nevertheless, have begun - during the "path" increase costs by at least half !! Approximately half of the funds allocated for all these “developments” - are being impudently, stupidly and almost with impunity stolen by the very same officials and persons under their control!
    The government, ... it’s worse than the children in the kindergarten - oh .. and no one knew that oil would fall .., oh, but we didn’t think so fast .., oh, and it’s not us, it's their fault ... So why the hell do you get such salaries and bonuses? Are you all, as one, entirely effective (or DEFECTIVE ??) and professional superspecialists who calculate everything, predict, predict and control everything ?? You did not know that the economy of our country is raw? You did not know that even at the beginning of the XNUMXs, leading experts and analysts predicted a “quiet” war for spheres of influence and raw material markets? It was, .. even to me, the motley-faced lieutenant at that time, in the analytical reports it was brought up during special exercises, moreover, with a rather accurate indication of the methods and directions. And what measures have been taken ?? What has been done to mitigate such blows?
    Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot - apparently another foreign cottages-houses-plants-newspapers-steamers were bought by valiant members of our government ...
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 19 January 2016 09: 16 New
      +5
      It is a pity that your post will not be able to evaluate more than one "plus"!
      1. noWAR
        noWAR 19 January 2016 10: 58 New
        +2
        Plus, the attitude to the content of the commentary is estimated, for the more emotional there is a “karma” of the forum member, which he personally did not fail to use.
  14. lablizn
    lablizn 19 January 2016 08: 50 New
    -2
    Some kind of baby talk in the comments! What do you want - the president, the supply manager or something?
    Or is there a gag in every barrel? He announced the national development strategy, and then the business of specialists, in particular the financial and economic block of the government. Unfortunately, in my opinion, this very block, to put it mildly, is inefficient! Or rather, mediocre and irresponsible.
    1. heal
      heal 19 January 2016 09: 00 New
      11
      Quote: lablizn
      Some kind of baby talk in the comments! What do you want - the president, the supply manager or something?
      Or is there a gag in every barrel? He announced the national development strategy, and then the business of specialists, in particular the financial and economic block of the government. Unfortunately, in my opinion, this very block, to put it mildly, is inefficient! Or rather, mediocre and irresponsible.

      Well voiced even if, and? Why doesn’t he disperse the government and other “forecasters” and “specialists”? On the contrary, he repeatedly states that their work suits him, and he also awards medals.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 19 January 2016 10: 48 New
        +7
        Quote: heal
        Unfortunately, in my opinion, this very block, to put it mildly, is inefficient! Or rather, mediocre and irresponsible.


        Poke in the "member of this block" and say that he is not a member of the directorate of any corporation (Gazprom, Rosneft, Rosal, etc.). You are unlikely to find one. The proverb about “his shirt” was not erased by anyone with an eraser, he continues to live and everything is more successful. So, it’s not clever, unrequited, but more often “Serdyukov-Vasiliev’s” who break their elbows into power. Hence the lice. fool
    2. almen1
      almen1 19 January 2016 09: 05 New
      +6
      And the president, probably, does not see mediocrity and irresponsibility? And isn't it his duty to give them a knee in one place?
    3. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 January 2016 13: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: lablizn
      mediocre and irresponsible

      I do not agree - people in the economic bloc of the government are both gifted and responsible; only their responsibility - not to the people of the country, but to the top of large international capital ...
    4. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 19 January 2016 13: 12 New
      +5
      interesting, but YOU, or you, forgive me, I don’t know how to handle, read and listen to the statements of our guarantor, so to speak? and how do you like the statement that is literally recent about the “good” work of the government and everything that suits it in the actions of such and generally the development of the country?
      already after such statements, a lot of questions arise EXACTLY TO THE GUARANTEE about our future life! so the captain minus you deservedly and in the future before you write - think! By the way, I have a question for our Duma members: why so far our opposition has not united and has not offered to change the government? what
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 19 January 2016 13: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Victor Demchenko
        why so far our opposition has not united

        Because the parliamentary opposition (the Communist Party, the Liberal Democratic Party, the Slovak Republic) is the same "de-promoted", lured and tamed, and just as the government does not express the interests of the people and does not serve the people.
    5. Karabin
      Karabin 19 January 2016 17: 56 New
      0
      Quote: lablizn
      He announced the national development strategy, and then

      even though the grass does not grow.
  15. heal
    heal 19 January 2016 08: 57 New
    +6
    After such words, even Dmitry Medvedev had to wake up, saying that Siluanov, they say, goes too far, and the Russian economy, which could plunge the country into default and a total drop in industrial production of the 1998 model, has no risks today. That is exactly what the chairman of the Russian government said, who only a month ago stated that the crisis, you see, was left behind ... Then President Vladimir Putin had to comment on the words of Dmitry Medvedev, who said that it was not about the crisis, but about the “passing peak of the crisis. "

    This is said by people far from the real state of affairs. Indeed, it’s good for them to sit on the throne and about, for them there was no crisis at all. The question arises of the adequacy of the assessment of the situation by these people, and indeed the question of adequacy.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 19 January 2016 09: 15 New
      +5
      Personally, I do not see any other worthwhile alternative other than increasing the representation of the Communist Party in the executive branch. But I’ll say right away that it’s not necessary about the snickering officials from the 1985 CPSU model. These were children compared to the current managers in power. Although some of them were the same jabadam "managers" of the pilot version. There would be a different political force aimed at the sharp socialization of society and the entire political and economic system — that’s how the flag would be in her hands. But there is no such force. There is only a stub of the former Communist Party, by the way, which is also not badly "de-commercialized," but this is more likely to benefit. The problem is that for many “highly educated” people between the ages of 35-50, the word “communist” simply strikes the eye. But in vain. Isn't that brainwashing? until “united Russia” has a worthy counterweight to the LEFT, nothing good will be with any Putin. I myself remember that I voted for Benya Eltsin in 1992. I still repent. Voted for Zhirik, it was the case. Then the Communists were generally in the pen. But after 1995 I vote exclusively for the Communist Party, and in the rotten bits of the antithesis of the followers of the "free market" I am not going to rummage. Which I sincerely wish you all.
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 19 January 2016 13: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: andrew42
        worthy counterweight LEFT

        But our government is all suffering about the lack of a counterbalance RIGHT ...
        So they cultivate the right idea with all their might ...
  16. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 19 January 2016 09: 06 New
    10
    It's time to understand that effective managers are ruining the country. Their task is to find a reason and collect more money and put it in a private pocket, which leads to the fact that real production is left without finances and cannot develop, and finances folded in private pockets are withdrawn from the country and work for other states. Monopolies are looking for new ways to pay in their favor, impoverishing the population.
    An example is the search for power engineers to introduce a subscription fee for the maintenance of electric networks, and what before, when the energy system in the country was developing, the electric networks were not serviced? All this is included in the tariff, to find a reason to force the population to pay repeatedly for the same thing is the point of the managers' work.
    They don’t think about the consequences of such a policy. But the really impoverished population cannot buy the necessary goods, demand falls, and behind it the production. The real economy indicators worsen and then the inflation mechanism turns on, the purchasing power of the ruble decreases. As a result, the figures create the appearance of relative prosperity, the budget is filled, and the country's economy is shrinking.
    We must recall the times when the country's economy developed and take the best of those times.
    The solution could be the creation of a network of cooperative small enterprises, where the initial capital is contributed by members, and further profit is capitalized. As a result, equipment is acquired, warehouses are built, and the volume of goods and services produced increases. Products are distributed in our own network of stores. If there is a choice, the population will always prefer local vegetables, dairy, meat products. Today, they are not allowed to enter the market, private owners forced to sell goods are suffering losses, and the population, under the guise of fresh products, acquires distant imports, which not only have been produced long ago, but also leave much to be desired in quality.
    In any case, such a network could have mitigated the situation already this year, when prices would rise due to the depreciation of the ruble.
    Of course, a non-profit bank should be added to such a network, which does not have the right to manage the invested funds, its task is to service accounts, and the income should be equal to the cost of servicing. Or rather, not even a bank, but a settlement center. Account holders themselves manage the deposits in the amount of their contribution.
    This is an element of the social system that will increase employment, provide goods and will not depend on the US labor market and overcrowding in oil storage facilities.
    Notice, it is proposed not to select and divide, but to create an internal system of food security. If the experiment is successful, other elements of the production of goods and services must be added to it. And most importantly, when the mechanism works, and there is money, purchase an oil refinery, create a network of gas stations so that the prices for fuel and lubricants are not regulated by "effective managers" during the sowing or harvesting season, ruining the agricultural season and driving producers at a loss.
  17. andrei.yandex
    andrei.yandex 19 January 2016 09: 21 New
    +2
    "The ruling elite of the country -" clerks "and" controllers "
  18. uskrabut
    uskrabut 19 January 2016 09: 21 New
    +9
    Article big "+"! More needs to be written about our miraculous economists and their "achievements! We are used to quietly cutting loot, and they like to run away into the bushes like fried smells. Nobody wants to fix the stalemate situation in the country. Just talk about reducing costs. Take it and cut your incomes to the level of the average salary in the country, reduce the budget cuts - it turns out that there are not so few funds in the country, you need to steal less, gentlemen, ministers, work-work-work without sleep and rest, and you can’t - resign ( but only without a change in another chair) completely leave, in the national economy.
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 19 January 2016 13: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: uskrabut
      but you can’t - resign (but only without transferring to another chair) completely leave, to the national economy.

      where is it? Well, if only to Kolyma, and even then there is no such spirit! am
  19. fa2998
    fa2998 19 January 2016 09: 53 New
    +7
    Quote: ImPerts
    Not an economist, so I will not give advice.

    I’m also not an economist, but since there is a crisis on the street and the budget is dry, I WILL CUT! I think there is a solution, there are funds in the country. You just need to leave someone the old financing, cut it by 10%, and cut it by 50 -90%. There are officials in the country who earn millions DAY. I think they are not exhausted, ALL have bank accounts, real estate, shares, they will survive! laughing hi
  20. Cobra77
    Cobra77 19 January 2016 10: 00 New
    +4
    Quote: ImPerts
    Not an economist, so I will not give advice. But for such a period of time it is already possible to understand who is stealing and who is not. It is time to introduce, or rather return, confiscation of property, including from relatives. And I agree with the need for a ban on the next of kin to engage in entrepreneurial activity and occupy leadership positions.


    Do you think it's so easy to take and put our "elitists"? And who will do it? GDP? Even if he wanted (and this is not so, for he is a liberal, albeit with brains), then what could he do, provided that he is not an absolute dictator, does he not have all the fullness of power? Who can he rely on if there are mostly "effective managers" around him? If the law does, it’s just sabotaged, rigged, etc. Like a half of his decrees now. If by more radical methods, then this is essentially the introduction of direct presidential rule and reliance on law enforcement agencies directly (what else needs to be organized, because everything is not easy there too), restriction of civil liberties, etc. Will it support the people. In general, yes rather than no. For the people over the past 5-6 years have become very field-wise ("the hands of the market" were eating). But the people are few. For such actions, GDP must be with titanium eggs and already have its own people in key places loyal to him personally. Otherwise, he runs the risk of starting a civil war.
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    2. creak
      creak 19 January 2016 11: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: cobra77
      For such actions, GDP must be with titanium eggs and already have its own people in key places loyal to him personally. Otherwise, he runs the risk of starting a civil war.


      And who appoints ministers to key posts of GDP or someone else? It seems that Putin, for example, General Zolotov from the FSO was launched by the Commander-in-Chief of the Internal Troops (their functions are known) ... Or Defense Minister Shoigu, with whom GDP is on a friendly foot, goes hunting - does he not trust them?
      In addition to personal devotion, ministers also need other qualities - for example, competence and professionalism - you cannot get a country out of crisis by personal devotion ...
      As Saltykov-Sherin wisely remarked at one time: “Many tend to confuse two concepts: Fatherland and Your Excellency” ...
  21. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 19 January 2016 10: 11 New
    10
    And yet, about the effective manager Gref, managing Sberbank. Few people understood that his proposal to privatize the Security Council was a threat to national security.
    The banking term “liquidity of 10%” means that the bank has the ability to issue 10 times more funds for loans than the amount of funds of depositors held in this bank. Through SB pass all !!! budget payments - salaries of state employees, pensions, benefits. Of course, many people immediately take off all their pennies, but budget revenues go constantly and, when evaluating assets, the Security Council always looks good, whatever the size of the loan portfolio .. If privatization is approved, the state will receive small funds for the last time (all Russian assets underestimated dozens of times) and will no longer participate in profit, and most importantly, will not be able to influence the policy of the bank. In the future, the Security Council may suffer the fate of an ordinary commercial bank, i.e. bankruptcy. As usual, the bank works, attracts funds from depositors, works stably and at one moment it suddenly becomes clear that the funds were withdrawn from the accounts and the bankrupt bank. And in the case of the Security Council, the accounts of citizens, state employees, for whom this is the only modest income, will disappear. How many millions of people will be left without a livelihood? Many of them will be able to live a couple of months without food? And the state in this case will have to pay in excess of the current income from privatization. And the likelihood of such a development of events is -100%, because everything that falls under the power of international capital is necessarily collapsing at the most unfavorable moment. This is what happens today with the price of oil when the main source of budget revenue has disappeared. And how state managers nurtured this source, neglecting the development of production. There is no quick return from production, and profitability is never high, and hydrocarbons are quick money, and the farther, the more, the price reaches $ 140. We set up the entire economy, and the result is already $ 25, there are no incomes when the country just started to rise. This mechanism of external influence is the basis of modern international relations.
    Managers who give beautiful indicators of the economy in numbers should be removed from power and replaced by specialists in the management of enterprises with experience, so that the economy is based on real developing production that is as independent of foreign markets as possible, providing a modest but stable income, providing the population with work and wages , which means stable solvent demand and supply.
    Then there will be security, when it will be impossible to inflict damage on the country from the outside, no one will even try to attack, don’t say anything, and managers consider the money and will not spend it on unprofitable projects.
    1. Sunseich
      Sunseich 19 January 2016 10: 57 New
      +4
      where do you find Specialists?
      after the dashing 90s, the crazy 2000s, and the new Uratelsky 2010?
      someone left, someone died (often in poverty), someone just spat and began to cut himself
      I do not know
      I do not believe
      and what to do - I don’t know
      but there is a thought: since they started pouring into society about Stalin and his methods, will we not get forever young next year? ... winked
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 19 January 2016 13: 21 New
        +3
        The management of the enterprises has specialists who not only manage the operating enterprise in conditions when the enterprise does not have financial resources for raw materials, normal equipment maintenance, especially for modernization, but also has to obey the stupid orders of "effective managers", and then report for inefficient work.
        I recall a situation where an enterprise found a buyer for a large volume of hard-to-sell products at an affordable price, but as a result, effective managers concluded a contract with a price 10% higher, but refinement was required, at a cost equal to the sale price, in the absence of a production opportunity to fulfill it. 90% of the goods remained in stock, which was the fault of the technical managers.
        Situations when production workers have to answer for the incompetence of effective managers are faced by specialists at all enterprises, so they know how to develop production.
        There are specialists, but these are not economists and managers.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 19 January 2016 19: 38 New
      +1
      In Russia, total loan debt is more than 16 trillion rubles.
  22. Cobra77
    Cobra77 19 January 2016 10: 55 New
    +4
    Quote: olimpiada15
    And yet, about the effective manager Gref, managing Sberbank. Few people understood that his proposal to privatize the Security Council was a threat to national security.


    Well, the fact that the second major privatization is being conceived is not noticed only by the blind. It's been a year already. The topic has not yet been finalized. But I think in the coming year, two will do. Like a crisis, sanctions, oil, the budget needs to be replenished, etc. rave. Well, they’ll cut what remains. And what will happen in the end, I think is pretty obvious. Suffice it to recall Chubais ....
  23. runway
    runway 19 January 2016 11: 01 New
    0
    I do not want anyone to be now in the place of the Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation.
    If there is such a person (team) who will now pull the country out of the swamp into which our current leaders led them, they will be worthy of a full-length gold monument in life.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 19 January 2016 19: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: piston
      I do not want anyone to be now in the place of the Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation.
      If there is such a person (team) who will now pull the country out of the swamp into which our current leaders led them, they will be worthy of a full-length gold monument in life.

      The problem is that the current leaders will do everything to make the country drown in a swamp, they deliberately do it and everything goes as usual for them: their salaries are growing, their accounts are being replenished, they are being praised, no one is being dismissed; ministers do not see any problems in the country . Ministers do not care about the people, unless they increase their retirement age so that no one pays a pension.
  24. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 19 January 2016 11: 10 New
    +1
    It’s not bad that there is a Gaidar forum, but that there are no other, alternative opinions. On the opposite flank, only Glazyev looms. Change is needed. And let the liberals vote. Not only the fact that their recommendations must be 100% implemented. They are the mouthpiece of the existing world oligarchic system. And since our economy is tied to it, their opinion is sometimes useful.
  25. Good cat
    Good cat 19 January 2016 11: 37 New
    0
    Sberbank D.E.M.O. and Gref is the same specialist! When will they give them a knee in the ass?
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  27. Irbis5974
    Irbis5974 19 January 2016 11: 47 New
    +3
    [quote = max702] Concerning the "Gaidar gathering" It seems to me that this list should be FIRST!

    This phrase is the most important !!!
  28. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 19 January 2016 11: 54 New
    +2
    For all the effective managers of Russia, the prison has been crying for a long time.
  29. Governor
    Governor 19 January 2016 12: 00 New
    +2
    A month later, we will be announced a correction from the high stands, saying that the peak of the first phase of the crisis has been passed ...
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 19 January 2016 13: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Governor
      A month later, we will be announced a correction from the high stands, saying that the peak of the first phase of the crisis has been passed ...

      I’d like to add to the development of your thought
      "... the peak of the first phase of the initial stage of the progressive development of the beginning systemic crisis has been passed"
      1. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 19 January 2016 14: 14 New
        +2

        I’d like to add to the development of your thought
        "... the peak of the first phase of the initial stage of the progressive development of the beginning systemic crisis has been passed"


        passed the peak and began to descend ... to the bottom ...
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 19 January 2016 19: 13 New
          +1
          It looks like the Russian economy has two covers: at the top of the crisis peak, at the bottom of the crisis.
          Though up, even down, the cover is everywhere.
  30. Cobra77
    Cobra77 19 January 2016 12: 24 New
    0
    Quote: ranger
    Quote: cobra77
    For such actions, GDP must be with titanium eggs and already have its own people in key places loyal to him personally. Otherwise, he runs the risk of starting a civil war.


    And who appoints ministers to key posts of GDP or someone else? It seems that Putin, for example, General Zolotov from the FSO was launched by the Commander-in-Chief of the Internal Troops (their functions are known) ... Or Defense Minister Shoigu, with whom GDP is on a friendly foot, goes hunting - does he not trust them?
    In addition to personal devotion, ministers also need other qualities - for example, competence and professionalism - you cannot get a country out of crisis by personal devotion ...
    As Saltykov-Sherin wisely remarked at one time: “Many tend to confuse two concepts: Fatherland and Your Excellency” ...


    A friendly foot does not mean that a person will support a radical line (and we are talking about radical actions). While the game goes within, he is loyal and even a little more. But what will happen when you need to go beyond? Take risks not only with your well-being and position, but also with life. To break the system, first of all, support is needed. Strong support. And this is either a devotion to the idea (this was the case in the revolution and the subsequent time), or personal devotion. Since the first is not observed on the horizon. That remains only the second. And loyalty is always more important than competence for any authority, especially in critical situations. What is the use of a professional if he sticks a knife in your back tomorrow or sells it to you. Without a doubt, it is better when devotion is combined with competence, but in life it is often not so.

    Mr. Gref as a professional is quite sensible, even more than that. But under no circumstances should he be trusted, only if two NKVDeshniki stood day and night behind his back.

    And yet, why did you decide that the candidates for power posts personally chose GDP, and this is not a stupid palliative decision taking into account the interests of political groups? "The retinue plays the king" ...
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    2. creak
      creak 19 January 2016 12: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: cobra77
      why did you decide that the candidates for power posts personally chose the GDP, and this is not a stupidly palliative decision taking into account the interests of political groups? "The retinue plays the king" ...


      Well, since in your opinion personal loyalty is more important than competence, then as a result we have what we have today with such personally loyal leaders, looking at whom you don’t know whether to cry or laugh ... Although the jokes are over and now even the government is no longer to laugh ...
      Even in the years of the civil war and after it, when devotion to the idea was a determining factor in appointing to various posts, the authorities lacked common sense to use professionals (from tsarist officers to engineers). Not all of them were active builders of socialism, but as it turned out, besides the idea, knowledge and experience are still needed ...
      As one of the military experts of that period put it: "The enemy is not beaten by Marx, but by weapons ..."
      Yes, and what kind of groups can affect the decisions of the GDP (with its powers), if you know, call me, it will be interesting to know ..
  31. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 19 January 2016 13: 27 New
    +2
    and more about:
    Quote: lablizn
    lablizn (2) Today, 08:50 am New
    Some kind of baby talk in the comments! What do you want - the president, the supply manager or something?
    Or is there a gag in every barrel? He announced the national development strategy, and then the business of specialists, in particular the financial and economic block of the government. Unfortunately, in my opinion, this very block, to put it mildly, is inefficient! Or rather, mediocre and irresponsible.

    why the hell then WITHOUT his personal intervention of ANYTHING worthwhile can not create our grief-guides? even the last meeting of the military-industrial complex and even without its control could not be held! Yes, drive them, these hand guides such as Siluanov and Ulyakayev with pissed rags, and it's high time! but there is not even a word about Gref, one mate, and Chubais to the heap, all of them with a filthy broom and to the nail!
  32. Cobra77
    Cobra77 19 January 2016 13: 41 New
    0
    Quote: ranger
    Even in the years of the civil war and after it, when devotion to the idea was a determining factor in appointing to various posts, the authorities lacked common sense to use professionals (from tsarist officers to engineers). Not all of them were active builders of socialism, but as it turned out, besides the idea, knowledge and experience are still needed ...
    As one of the military experts of that period put it: "The enemy is not beaten by Marx, but by weapons ..."


    Not everyone was betrayed. Naturally. But loyal people usually stood behind them to control and if that "help with the choice of the right decision." And remember the purges of 37-38 years, when not enough devotees were removed. And what is interesting in general is rather a positive impact on the country and the army. Perhaps because by that time those who are with Marx had gained experience. For example, I don’t know how some of the former tsarist generals in the Second World War would behave.


    Quote: ranger
    Yes, and what kind of groups can affect the decisions of the GDP (with its powers), if you know, call me, it will be interesting to know ..


    Powers .... ha ha ha. Gorbachev also had powers. However, suspended as soon as it was no longer needed.
    Who has an influence? Yes, all included in the hundred Forbes in the Russian Federation. In one form or another. GDP how did you become president then? And how was he re-elected? How much did his election company cost? Where did the money come from? Charity? And who supported him in the regions? If you want to know who influences, follow the path of money.
  33. creak
    creak 19 January 2016 13: 56 New
    0
    Quote: cobra77
    Who has an influence? Yes, all included in the hundred Forbes in the Russian Federation. In one form or another. GDP how did you become president then? And how was he re-elected? How much did his election company cost? Where did the money come from? Charity? And who supported him in the regions?



    You still forgot about the long arms of the omnipresent State Department ...
    Or this time did without him, was Forbes enough? .. what
  34. Belousov
    Belousov 19 January 2016 15: 05 New
    +1
    The chain is very simple: the government (and here it should be understood not only formally the cabinet of ministers, but also the Central Bank, Sberbank and other large financial institutions) works to the detriment of Russia = Putin likes this "work" of the government = but then draw your own conclusions who interests works. And there is no need to drive the blizzard about Crimea and Syria, it will no longer give a link to foreign policy, when there is an outright genocide of the Russian people inside, the collapse of the education system, health care, social security and so on.
  35. epsilon571
    epsilon571 19 January 2016 15: 06 New
    0
    While we are discussing this article, new news appears in our country and here is the latest one:

    Patriarch Kirill forbade Russians to be proud of their talents

    ... "Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill warned believers against vanity about their own talents and abilities. This was announced on Tuesday, January 19, TASS.
    “Abilities are from God. That is why we should never be proud of our abilities and talent should never be the cause of vanity and ambition, sin is everything, ”said the clergyman. At the same time, he acknowledged that in order to reach heights, people have to develop talent beyond their data, work hard, study and overcome difficulties.
    The patriarch advised the Russians to use their talents for the benefit of other people. “Share your abilities and opportunities with others, and then the Lord will give you more and more, and this is the one who gave his people: time, effort, material opportunities,” said the head of the Russian Orthodox Church ... "


    In the summer of 2015, Patriarch Kirill noted a deep spiritual crisis in the Western world, and therefore believes that Russians should eat exclusively "spiritual energy". Perhaps the esteemed patriarch hints at the upcoming crisis, but here our President disagrees:

    ... "Russian President Vladimir Putin during a visit to the exhibition held at the Tretyakov Gallery by artist Valentin Serov recalled the famous photo-toad painting" The Girl with Peaches. "This was reported by RIA Novosti.
    After Putin was told about the history of the painting, the president asked the minister of culture, Vladimir Medinsky, who was standing nearby, if he had seen her “new online version”. “There, a girl with peaches sits at a long New Year’s table,” Putin said with a smile.
    The president most likely had in mind the popular photojournal from huru.ru. She is known as “Girl with Peaches. Full version ”and first appeared on the Internet in the summer of 2014. On it, the heroine of the picture sits at a table, laden with various holiday snacks and bottles of champagne ... "


    That's how we live.. Happy Epiphany, my dear, with the Holy Epiphany!
  36. Cobra77
    Cobra77 19 January 2016 15: 52 New
    -1
    Quote: ranger
    Quote: cobra77
    Who has an influence? Yes, all included in the hundred Forbes in the Russian Federation. In one form or another. GDP how did you become president then? And how was he re-elected? How much did his election company cost? Where did the money come from? Charity? And who supported him in the regions?



    You still forgot about the long arms of the omnipresent State Department ...
    Or this time did without him, was Forbes enough? .. what


    I wrote a lot of letters, not mastered? When you see the word "Forbes", you immediately start reflexively a song about the State Department without reading further? Try re-reading what I wrote, this time entirely without an erection on Forbes. A hint for the gifted, the key phrase was "Want to know who influences - follow the path of money."
  37. creak
    creak 19 January 2016 18: 18 New
    -2
    Quote: cobra77
    Try re-reading what I wrote, this time entirely without an erection on Forbes. A hint for the gifted, the key phrase was "Want to know who influences - follow the path of money."


    Do not be so kind as to doubt, I had to master things that really deserved to be seriously understood ...
    Your comment is not the case to re-read your conspiracy theories, once was enough for the eyes ...
    To understand who influences me and what your tips and keywords are not required for me.
    So you yourself go, well, at least along the path of money ... hi
  38. Cobra77
    Cobra77 19 January 2016 18: 54 New
    -1
    Quote: ranger
    Quote: cobra77
    Try re-reading what I wrote, this time entirely without an erection on Forbes. A hint for the gifted, the key phrase was "Want to know who influences - follow the path of money."


    Do not be so kind as to doubt, I had to master things that really deserved to be seriously understood ...
    Your comment is not the case to re-read your conspiracy theories, once was enough for the eyes ...
    To understand who influences me and what your tips and keywords are not required for me.
    So you yourself go, well, at least along the path of money ... hi


    Where did you see conspiracy theories then? And the hand of the State Department? The conversation was exclusively about money. Do you know Russian well? Is everything normal with logic?

    I said essentially banalities known to most people. It is around us at the household level, in the power closest to us. They understand this. And miracles are not expected. Whoever dines with the girl dances her. But for some reason, when it comes to the level of government and El Presidente, many begin to believe in pink ponies.
  39. Mihail55
    Mihail55 19 January 2016 19: 00 New
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    PLUS the article and was pleased that in many comments the people are moving away from the intentional cliches ... the dirty paws of the State Department, etc. War is war, but you still need to pay attention to yourself. Year after year pass in the idleness of talented people. They completely shut off oxygen. MIC, the oil industry, and a little more and EVERYTHING! The rest is vegetation, now all Chubais and Ulyukaevs are absolutely useless figures. The lag can be overcome by "extraordinary" (there and the French got alarmed!) Not the sissies of the mother should steer, but real men-leaders! Whatever you call them - the people's commissars, commissars, all the same the problems that have piled on Russia cannot be solved slowly. Nevertheless, I would like to hear the LOUD word of the chief with an appeal to us, his voters. I want KRYMNASH and in the economy!
  40. Lexus
    Lexus 19 January 2016 19: 22 New
    +1
    Time of Troubles requires extraordinary people and extraordinary solutions. Our government, and everything, resembles fat offended kindergarten idiots. And asks bream to roll.
    We need people who have an understanding of the situation, goals and concepts for achieving them. So far, only Glazyev is visible.
    Gaidar’s b..day to the fire would be like witches. A bonfire from the center of the Bori. Two birds with one stone would have burned.
  41. communication
    communication 19 January 2016 21: 43 New
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    Mr. Medvedev apparently doesn’t have a crisis either. ZP is constantly and in full volume. Housing and communal services tariffs would not increase then and lower the price of gas, otherwise oil will become cheaper. It seems that the government lives in an oasis and we don’t care.
  42. iouris
    iouris 20 January 2016 00: 30 New
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    It would be nice to "cut" the budget of the State Duma, the government and the presidential administration, making it dependent on the economic result. No bonuses or compensation payments. Otherwise, it turns out that the state finances inefficient work.
  43. Aleksandr Tot
    Aleksandr Tot 22 January 2016 22: 12 New
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    Again stone after cancer and wattle after shadow.
    I definitely don’t want economists, financiers, lawyers to tell educators, psychologists, sociologists and further on the educational list how much money, hours, mind they need to return to the Soviet education system, the results of which are quiet and not very used by the same USA, Israel, China etc.