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New LAV armored vehicles for the Saudi army

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The Canadian branch of General Dynamics Lands Systems (GDLS Canada) will begin supplying Saudi Arabia’s LAV armored vehicles with 8x8 wheel formula, equipped with the Cockerill Maintenance & Ingénierie Belgian group (CMI), a blog says bmpd with reference to Jane's Defense Weekly.


New LAV armored vehicles for the Saudi army
Prototype model of the General Dynamics Lands Systems LAV armored vehicle with a CMI Cockerill CT-CV 105HP turret (type 3105) with a 105-mm Cockerill CV rifled gun.

Deliveries will be made under the contract from 2014 g in the amount of $ 10 billion.

“CMI towers will be equipped with two types of new types of LAV machines developed by GDLS Canada as part of the Saudi megazakaz. One option is to install the Cockerill CT-CV 105HP twin tower with 105-mm / 53 Cockerill CV rifled gun of normal ballistics, equipped with an automatic loader (containing 12 or 16 shots), ”writes the magazine.

Another option, according to the publication, “provides for a double Cockerill Medium Caliber Turret (CMCT) turret with 30-mm or 40-mm variant of the ATK Orbital Mk 44 automatic cannon (the prototype of the tower was tested with the 30-mm version of this gun). Also, this tower will have an ATGM launcher. ”

A prototype of an armored vehicle General Dynamics Lands Systems LAV of the new version with a CMI Cockerill Medium Caliber Turret (CMCT) turret (type 3130 / 40) with an ATN Orbital Mk 30 44-mm automatic cannon.

It is noted that "both types of towers (CT-CV 105HP and СМСТ) belong to the new family of" modular "armored Cockerill 3000 Series towers developed by CMI, which have digitally controlled electric drives and can be equipped with different types of guns of calibers from 25 to 105 mm and different fire control systems.

Other characteristics of armored vehicles LAV, intended for Saudi Arabia, are not reported.
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Cockerill Maintenance & Ingénierie
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  1. Boos
    Boos 11 January 2016 13: 25 New
    +7
    It will turn over, with a minimum roll ?!) Do not call on steep dunes?)))
    1. Drmadfisher
      Drmadfisher 11 January 2016 13: 32 New
      +1
      with such a gun, a back flip is guaranteed.
      1. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 11 January 2016 13: 41 New
        +3
        The more such Canadian Pepelats, the smaller the Saudi population! A good idea by the Yankees. There is a lot of oil, and few people, these are Uncle Sam's best friends! fool
        1. maxiban
          maxiban 11 January 2016 13: 51 New
          0
          All this is good - for Husits ​​for a snack. They will burn everything.
        2. Now we are free
          Now we are free 11 January 2016 14: 14 New
          +9
          Husits ​​+ RPG7V approve of the delivery of new SA equipment!

          But seriously, the LAV 8 * 8 platform itself, although good, BUT the weapons presented on its platform (described in the article) raises a number of questions.
          Firstly, the very concept of installing a 105 mm caliber gun (even on wheels) looks already driven out and has not justified itself. Was there at least one conflict where this platform 105 mm gun + wheels paid off? Especially to deal with more or less modern MBT?
          Automatic grenade launcher based on wheeled armored personnel carrier -Yes.
          Automatic gun with a caliber of 25 from 57 mm (heavy machine gun) -Yes.
          ATRA Yes.
          Mortar from 80 to 120 mm - Yes.
          But the -105 mm gun has never proven itself on the positive side.

          In addition to the above voiced, the presented armored personnel carrier is not equipped with any significant protection against RPGs, all the more so ATGMs, which in the conditions of modern wars make another expensive tin can out of it ...
          1. Maxom75
            Maxom75 11 January 2016 14: 27 New
            +2
            The technique is new, the technology is super, but what about the low morale of the Saudis? The Army of the SA is one of the most heavily armed in the Middle East, but with direct clashes, it flees and throws this equipment. Nothing will help the coward in battle.
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 11 January 2016 13: 59 New
        +1
        Well, that's right, several hundred vehicles were poured into Yemen. And tanks under 50 units, though mostly M60.
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        2. bulvas
          bulvas 11 January 2016 14: 05 New
          +1
          under the contract from 2014 in the amount of $ 10 billion


          This is not the contract with which the Saudis wanted to buy change from Syria from us?


    2. GRAY
      GRAY 11 January 2016 14: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: Boos
      ) Do not call on steep dunes?)))

      And they need to do the embankment because, this mausoleum, you’re tormenting to hide in a trench without an excavator - otherwise a kapets.
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 11 January 2016 17: 06 New
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        Yemen would still have at least some air defense, and Saudi Arabia would have fallen like a bear paw!
        1. RDX
          RDX 11 January 2016 18: 38 New
          0
          well-established French "Vespa 150 TAP"))) the shop is resting)))
    3. avt
      avt 11 January 2016 14: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Boos
      Will it roll over with minimal roll ?!

      Well, judging by the video of how the Saudis are fighting in Yemen, they only need to drive back and forth and get more hatches from the cars to drape. Well, the old trunks and 105mm shells were attached to the campaign, like the USs on “Strikers".
  2. Izotovp
    Izotovp 11 January 2016 13: 25 New
    +2
    And the tower is just like on a tank !!!
    1. seti
      seti 11 January 2016 13: 32 New
      +1
      Of course, she also has the dimensions - a very convenient target with a minimum of protection. If you put a tower with a gun on such a platform, then it’s only uninhabited. And so it turns out a shooter in 4.5-5 meters from the ground.
  3. seti
    seti 11 January 2016 13: 28 New
    +1
    When fired with such a tower and a heavy gun, this design will not roll over? It looks great unstable. It seems that on our Boomerang platform there is also a project with an 125mm gun, but there the stock is solid and the platform is more stable. The idea is not bad, but how is it in life?
    1. Dewa1s
      Dewa1s 11 January 2016 13: 32 New
      +1
      Well, it will be seen as with the "Stryker" - to shoot, of course, Moget, but only directly + - a couple of degrees.
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 11 January 2016 21: 25 New
      0
      Practice will show ... But for now, we will look from the side ...
  4. ovod84
    ovod84 11 January 2016 13: 28 New
    +5
    Convenient target for RPG
  5. Extraneous
    Extraneous 11 January 2016 13: 30 New
    +1
    What an ugly technique. It seems that initially the car was designed more for police operations than military.
  6. kebeskin
    kebeskin 11 January 2016 13: 33 New
    +2
    Armored Vehicles Lav. Feel all the charms of burning love and warm comfort after hitting an RPG)))
  7. Chyudilkin
    Chyudilkin 11 January 2016 13: 34 New
    +1
    Well, it’s ugly or not, but as much as memory serves, the gun of this machine is accurate.
  8. meriem1
    meriem1 11 January 2016 13: 36 New
    0
    Ugly or not. Did they check her RPG 7 sideways?
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  9. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 11 January 2016 13: 39 New
    +3
    It’s immoral to supply weapons to the Saudis.
    1. Boos
      Boos 11 January 2016 13: 40 New
      0
      and in general, to all the Semites.
  10. Chyudilkin
    Chyudilkin 11 January 2016 13: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: meriem1
    Ugly or not. Did they check her RPG 7 sideways?


    Why RPG, enough anything to the side with a caliber of 12 and above am
  11. GoHardLikePutin
    GoHardLikePutin 11 January 2016 13: 40 New
    +2
    The strongest army in Europe. Drunken soldiers vsu. Like it
    1. Ronino
      Ronino 11 January 2016 16: 19 New
      0
      They get used to the land.
    2. akshor
      akshor 11 January 2016 18: 08 New
      +1
      You can not fall to the level of ukroSMI. or what are we better then?
  12. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 11 January 2016 13: 43 New
    +3
    We wish the Yemenis to turn this technique into burning scrap metal.
  13. kervin78
    kervin78 11 January 2016 14: 08 New
    -2
    In the armata project, the petty machine is very pounding due to the viewing range, but it is not visible
  14. Chyudilkin
    Chyudilkin 11 January 2016 14: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: kervin78
    In the armata project, the petty machine is very pounding due to the viewing range, but it is not visible


    ))) tankman
  15. Massik
    Massik 11 January 2016 14: 40 New
    +4
    Comrades forum users, I want to remind you that modern RPGs and ATGMs are designed to destroy modern tanks, that is, the equipment that is the most armored in the ground forces. Therefore, it is foolish to require a wheeled armored personnel carrier of a sufficient level of protection against anti-tank weapons, as well as write such comments:
    Convenient target for RPG

    Armored Vehicles Lav. Feel all the charms of burning love and warm comfort after hitting an RPG)))

    Ugly or not. Did they check her RPG 7 sideways?

    The car is not bad, made according to the old and proven concept.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 11 January 2016 14: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Marssik
      made according to an old and proven concept.

      God is on you that we are not good.
      Myself, the Yankees do not deliver such magic.
      1. Massik
        Massik 11 January 2016 15: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: lelikas

        God is on you that we are not good.
        Myself, the Yankees do not deliver such magic.

        They don’t supply much for themselves, just remember the life of the M113. Meanwhile, our "Kurgan" is made in the same layout.
      2. Maksus
        Maksus 11 January 2016 17: 12 New
        +1
        And Stryker is it your what? Also Piranha 3, only licensed.
  16. Chyudilkin
    Chyudilkin 11 January 2016 15: 09 New
    0
    Quote: lelikas
    Quote: Marssik
    made according to an old and proven concept.

    God is on you that we are not good.
    Myself, the Yankees do not deliver such magic.


    They have such magic here !!!
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 11 January 2016 15: 52 New
    0
    This machine for remote shooting T-54 / 55, T-62 may not pull, the range of a direct shot is less and the power of the projectile too (only at night with a thermal imager). Ideally, the enemy would have no tanks at all.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 11 January 2016 17: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Ideally, the enemy would have no tanks at all.


      And also Metisov, Kornetov and RPG-7. And in general, it is better that the two keep the enemy, then they will show themselves!
  18. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 11 January 2016 19: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    This machine for remote shooting T-54 / 55, T-62 may not pull, the range of a direct shot is less and the power of the projectile too (only at night with a thermal imager). Ideally, the enemy would have no tanks at all.

    I do not think that the aforementioned T-54 / 55 has a higher efficiency, but to shoot at rifle units from a distance exceeding the maximum range of RPG-7 is a sacred thing. How this creation will manifest itself will depend on the directness of the hands of their crews and the presence of convolutions in the brains of the generals. But the most offensive thing is that Canadian creatures make good profit of this scrap.
  19. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 11 January 2016 22: 13 New
    0
    The 105mm caliber is not the most powerful HE shell, the gun was originally created by the British to fight tanks. In terms of PT capabilities, it is higher than the rifled 100mm T-54/55 guns and lower than the smooth-bore 115mm T-62 gun.
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  21. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 11 January 2016 22: 15 New
    0
    Direct hands play a small role here, as the machine has developed electronics, thermal imagers, rangefinders. But this ranged vehicle, not for kneading close to tanks or assault positions.