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Why did Russian students disappoint America?

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For more than 20 years of teaching experience at leading universities in Russia and the United States, few Western publications about Russian students and young people gave me more joy than the recent book by Ellen Mickiewicz Without Illusions: Voices of Future Leaders of Russia and the following comment by Sarah Mendelssohn Generation Putin’s ”in the magazine Foreign Forfears.

Mickiewicz - Professor of Political Science, Director of the Center for the Study of Communication and Journalism of the prestigious Duke University in North Carolina. Her last monograph was devoted to the views and attitudes of the younger generation of Russians. Mickiewicz is an honest analyst. If the results of her research do not correspond to what she expected, she does not try to manipulate them or sweep them under the carpet.

In recent years, Ellen Mickiewicz has conducted 12 detailed surveys among graduates of three well-known Russian universities: Moscow State University, MGIMO and HSE. The results disappointed Washington.

Despite the aggressive attempts at brainwashing of young Russians, which were delayed from perestroika times (including through textbooks published with Soros' money), most of the respondents questioned the claims of homegrown liberals and their overseas mentors that “Western liberalism would be the best political system for Of Russia. "

When asked whether such “blessings of civilization”, such as mobile phones, easy Internet access, the opportunity to visit other countries of young Russians to accept more liberal values ​​than those shared by their parents, young Russians answered “no” inspired.

Twenty-year-old Russians want to see Russia as a sovereign power opposing the Euro-Atlantic community and rejecting the primacy of international law over national law. Moreover, most of the students surveyed believe that Putin is leading the country on the right path.

And the last conclusion of the author: the more educated the young Russians, the more anti-American views they share.

With Sarah Mendelsohn, the author of the book review Ellen, I am familiar with 1995. In those years, Sarah worked with Mike McFaul at the Moscow office of the American National Democratic Institute (NDI), funded by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID).

We must pay tribute to her. It was she who highlighted the unseemly role of the US Embassy in Moscow during the presidential election in Russia 1996 of the year. According to Mendelssohn, the US Embassy expected falsification of the election results in favor of Yeltsin and officially "warned" the Moscow office of the US Agency for International Development "to distance itself from election monitoring, which could reveal real falsification episodes." The US embassy had every reason to expect election fraud because she herself participated in their organization.

Here, this is our way, in American style! Yanukovych tried to falsify the election results in Ukraine, so let him drop all the dogs from NGOs living in handouts from the US Embassy.

But today the findings Mickiewicz Sarah Mendelssohn unexpectedly upset.

“Twenty years ago,” Sarah recalls nostalgic memories, “when I worked at NDI, I watched the election campaign in Khimki, not far from Moscow ...”

"Observed" - an obvious stretch! American salespeople did not "observe", but took a much more active organizational and financial part of "old Boris" in Russia, as Yeltsin called Clinton.

“We had a“ tormenting hope ”(and tantalizing hope) that Russia“ will eventually move to democracy, ”continues Mendelssohn.

Wait a second! How does the “transition to democracy” fit in her head with falsifications of the 1996 presidential election sanctioned by the US Embassy? And where would Russian political consultants find themselves in Mendelssohn’s place if they took part in the election process of a congressman in the United States?

When Mendelssohn read the review, I caught myself thinking that there are two analogies to her Russophobic spells.

The first is the “Heart of a Dog” Sharikov: “We were strangling and strangling cats!” And, to the displeasure of Polygraph Polygraph, we survived.

The second is a phrase from a composition about Trotsky of the legendary group 1980-x DK: “We attach carcasses to Russian // Our clever heads!”

It did not work under Trotsky, the new McFaul and Mendelsons arrived in Russia on 90, when our country was a "banana republic." And then a bummer! What Russian ungrateful ...

Why did I remember this today? In November, 2015, Sarah Mendelsohn, was approved by the US Senate as the representative of the United States in one of the main UN bodies - the Economic and Social Council. They did not have time to get rid of McFaul, whose upcoming departure was announced by LifeNews as the first of the Russian media, how Mendelssohn, another nominee from the nest of NDI's head, Madeleine Albright, became ambassador. I would not be surprised if she will soon replace the pensioner Tefft as the US ambassador to Russia.

But, as Lenin used to say: “dragging you, not dragging!” With such thoughts and faith in my Russian students, I will enter the class next week.
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  1. Hubun
    Hubun 11 January 2016 16: 46 New
    45
    Throughout the face you know what. And the liberals and all such a mash of kick to the west. He personally would equate to the value of the medal the possibility of one of the yapping, with a pendel to cross the border
    1. Vend
      Vend 11 January 2016 16: 52 New
      92
      Quote: Hubun
      Throughout the face you know what. And the liberals and all such mash-up kick to the west

      Russia is generally a disappointment for the west laughing We don’t want to fall apart, we sell for hamburgers and Coca-Cola too, we support the traditional family, we don’t want color revolutions, and so on. Well, one disappointment laughing
      1. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 11 January 2016 18: 59 New
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        But it is necessary to talk about education in Russia. After all, school education in Russia is being adjusted for the West and under the control of the West.
        Somehow I watched a survey on television of our youth from their answers, the hair stood on end. The state’s history doesn’t know, it doesn’t know the beginning of World War II, what was the name of Marshal Zhukov and so I was ashamed of our youth and school education. For which we switched to Bologna education system and who needs it. It really doesn’t reach the leadership of the state that we are preparing illiterate ignorant people. Or it’s necessary for the ruling bunch, I don’t call the elite as the elite are people of special warehouse and thinking working for the good of the state and people, or for this bunch it’s beneficial to have semi-literate people like that -how it’s easier to manage. Maybe I'm wrong about something, but this is my opinion. I appeal to irresponsible and random people in running the country. Do not destroy our children, do not make slaves and lackeys of them.
        1. veteran66
          veteran66 11 January 2016 19: 13 New
          -28
          Quote: go21zd45few
          After all, school education in Russia is being adjusted for the West and under the control of the West.

          Well, the Russian language of your own, as they say, is lame .... Soviet school ??
          1. krot
            krot 11 January 2016 20: 00 New
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            Right! The more educated people are, the more they understand what the US policy is leading to and it does not matter whether it is Russia or another country. Dumbheads who just need sneakers and a stake with jeans USA is the leader of democracy!
            1. nadezhiva
              nadezhiva 11 January 2016 21: 04 New
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              That’s the whole catch. 30-35 years ago it was almost exactly the opposite. All our advanced and intelligent people listened to the Voice of America at night, were enthusiastic about "democracy" with 100 varieties of sausage and kefir on the shelves of the bourgeoisie.
              And 50 years have not passed. Only now the words “democracy” and “tolerance” distort, and the phrase “products from America” begins to cry out: “Don’t eat, you’ll become a kid, there’s a hell of a GMO” laughing
          2. There are a lot of us
            There are a lot of us 13 January 2016 05: 44 New
            +1
            Well, there really are flaws in Russian, but why should a person notice this, minus one?
            1. yanat
              yanat 14 January 2016 11: 49 New
              +1
              We pass the person for not looking at the root, but leading the discussion away from the field of grammar.
          3. 97110
            97110 13 January 2016 10: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: veteran66
            Well, the Russian language of your own, as they say, is lame .... Soviet school ??

            Strongly you offended the literacy fighters. How to minus, how to minus!
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 12 January 2016 03: 24 New
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          Quote: go21zd45few
          Once I watched a survey on television of our youth from their answers, my hair stood on end. They don’t know the history of the state, they don’t know the beginning of the 2 world war, what was the name of Marshal Zhukov and so I was ashamed of our youth and school education.

          Traditionally, when it comes to the modern Russian secondary education system .... Reformed, reformed [for a very long time, loud, scary and obscene - for this the moderators do not ban - they kill]. I found this photo on the Internet with the signature: "Graduates who received 100 points in the exam have come to work on Channel One."
          1. Kunar
            Kunar 13 January 2016 06: 24 New
            +2
            How is that possible? PPC ..... Know and love your language! And even Russian will become a “surzhik” ........
        3. antipendos
          antipendos 12 January 2016 06: 11 New
          0
          it’s elementary out of Ukraine, look while some are jumping, others are stealing everything because it’s just
        4. 97110
          97110 13 January 2016 10: 45 New
          -2
          Quote: go21zd45few
          I appeal to irresponsible and random people in running the country. Do not destroy our children, do not make slaves and lackeys of them.

          Strongly said. Still, the text would be literate - there would be no price for your writings. Or did you write to yourself, trained in the Bologna system?
        5. waitknait
          waitknait 13 January 2016 22: 16 New
          0
          So I’m kind of an erudite person, but the question about the Name of Marshal Zhukov took me by surprise, well, I can’t remember everything!
          By the way, not everyone who studied poorly at school ended up being illiterate, now there are so many opportunities for self-education that I don’t want to study!
          A wide access to the Internet, gave a lot of unexpected shoots, the same YouTube ... how many interesting things are there on the ru sector ...
        6. complete zero
          complete zero 14 January 2016 06: 20 New
          0
          Yes, a lot of things need to be changed in the Country (since we are preparing to live in a blockade) ... only for the sake of truth (correct if it is not right?) a damn thing is not being done? ... if Putin is not to blame, then who then? ... if you took the burden of autocracy ... so be Stalin (who took and carried this cross in the most difficult years) and now the times are not the best for the Country .. but there are NO movements or they are so meager for such a huge Country ... PS- he had time for so many years of frantic oil money so there is nothing to justify him
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 11 January 2016 17: 00 New
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      Quote: Hubun
      Throughout the face you know what. And the liberals and all such a mash of kick to the west. He personally would equate to the value of the medal the possibility of one of the yapping, with a pendel to cross the border

      Actually, we need to master the northern regions, for God's sake, otherwise they are worried about Russia with their tongues, so let them work with their hands.
      1. Hubun
        Hubun 11 January 2016 17: 05 New
        13
        yeah, and then they will be made victims of the bloody Putin regime, no, let these heroes roll to their beloved democrats.
      2. 34 region
        34 region 11 January 2016 17: 19 New
        +8
        To work with your hands? Sleight of hand and no fraud! Not! Nafig, nafig such workers! We know how they work with their hands!
        1. cyberspace
          cyberspace 11 January 2016 20: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: 34 region
          To work with your hands? Sleight of hand and no fraud! Not! Nafig, nafig such workers! We know how they work with their hands!

          Why not? In the north there is still an immeasurable number of barrels, so let them roll them, starting from Anadyr to Arkhangelsk.
    3. sergant67
      sergant67 11 January 2016 19: 56 New
      +1
      It remains only to listen to your words in the Administration .....
    4. oblako
      oblako 12 January 2016 04: 35 New
      +1
      In the beginning there was a word ... "democracy" then there was a filling with its content ... and it very much changed in American the content of this word. But could it be otherwise if the rich want power and strive for it by all means? This is an objective law. It is necessary to understand the content of this term in the American sense and then it will become clear what the Russian students do not want)))
    5. meriem1
      meriem1 12 January 2016 06: 22 New
      +2
      But you need to remember .. THAT this article takes you away from understanding WHAT young people are pumped into HSE !!! It is enough to send their teachers from Babayan on TV.
    6. unfriendly
      unfriendly 12 January 2016 13: 02 New
      +1
      He himself would have equated to the value of the medal the possibility of one of the yapping, to send across the border with a pendel

      Strongly agree with you !!! yes In addition, I would also take away the passport from such figures and would arrest property accounts - let them help abroad, or let the garbage cans inspect themselves for food in a liberal democracy. am
  2. Altona
    Altona 11 January 2016 16: 49 New
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    Why is democracy attributing jeans, gum and a mobile phone to itself? When all this was the result of hard work, mental illness and the development of military communications. request
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 11 January 2016 16: 56 New
      +3
      in the 90s, young scientists had nowhere to go - it was not for the market to trade. When the opportunity arose here to realize oneself, the number of people wishing to leave decreased.
      And the last conclusion of the author: the more educated the young Russians, the more anti-American views they share.
      It is extremely doubtful, by the way, that American universities are interested in uneducated young Russians, there are enough of their own uneducated ...
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 11 January 2016 17: 16 New
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        Quote: Stirbjorn
        in the 90s young scientists had nowhere to go

        I must say that in the 90s, especially in the beginning, many were euphoric from the “friendship” with the United States (Ukraine is 25 years late smile ), thank God, it came to us that the goose pig is not a comrade.
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        the more educated young Russians are, the more they share anti-American views.

        This makes me happy. yes
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 12 January 2016 03: 45 New
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          Quote: Vladimirets

          Quote: Stirbjorn
          the more educated young Russians are, the more they share anti-American views.

          This makes me happy. yes

          It is natural - the more a person is aware of the physical and chemical processes in nature, the less he believes in a thunder god. The more a person studies probability theory and mathematical statistics, the less he believes in a certain destiny.

          So with America, it’s enough to read a history textbook (not an American one!) And an economics textbook to understand the whole bloody, treacherous essence of the United States (the Indians, for example, know a lot about their “democracy") and the whole soap bubble of its economic power.

          And to serve in the army for a couple of decades and meet American “warriors” in different places of the world in the environment that is natural for a military person — where they shoot — and faith in American military power disappears. It’s not machine-gun aircraft that fight, but people, and not people in the American army — little people serving for pensions, bonuses, training grants, green cards, but not for their homeland. At least Rambo didn’t come across something to me ... Rather, our boys can be compared with Rambo, although Rambo is far from our guys! Our guys at the UWB are laying out as if they were storming Berlin. And it comes to the matter - there is no force that can stop or break them ...

          Incidentally, recently watched a terribly patriotic American film from new ones and there the main character, a participant in the landing in France on D-Day, sputters, how American soldiers in Europe at 1944-45 defended democracy. laughing laughing I would fall out of my chair if I hadn’t been lying on the couch ... They landed, damn it, a trophy team of looters ...
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 11 January 2016 17: 46 New
        -6
        There, and especially educated is not necessary. Its enough.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 11 January 2016 21: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: gladcu2
          There, and especially educated is not necessary. Its enough.

          My acquaintance studied - there are only Germans, Chinese are Indians and he was Russian. There were no locals. Those probably paid only if in separate groups
          1. Weyland
            Weyland 11 January 2016 22: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            My acquaintance studied - there are only Germans, Chinese are Indians and he was Russian. There were no local


            So he must be techie? smile The locals are not prestigious! fool (fool - this refers to the local, not to your friend hi )
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 12 January 2016 09: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Weyland
              So he, apparently, a techie? The locals are not prestigious! (fool - this refers to the local, not to your friend)

              Physicist, Polytech graduated hi , now works at Seagate
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          3. unfriendly
            unfriendly 12 January 2016 13: 17 New
            +1
            My acquaintance studied - there are only Germans, Chinese are Indians and he was Russian. There were no locals. Those probably paid only if in separate groups

            These were local "Einsteins" - selected (from among the exceptional) s who, having received a diploma, can count up to a hundred, write their last name and first name without errors and can retell the alphabet by heart without errors. The alternative of this knowledge (BTW!) Explains the "special training" in separate groups ...
            PS: "It seems not to be idlers and could live - they would take democracy - and cancel!"
  3. Comrade Bender
    Comrade Bender 11 January 2016 16: 49 New
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    Still, our young people are pleased that they did not succumb to fooling with pseudo-democratic educational reforms. Let them learn and become more literate.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 11 January 2016 18: 51 New
      +9
      The article pleased. Not everything is lost. By the way, I drew attention to the change in tonality in the programs of ex-matzah. Such fluffy steel, joyful voices. A fly in the ointment does not cease to add honey to your suspicious smell and color, but they do it not so aggressively and busily. Just quite fluffy steel.
      I am glad for the youth who have strong immunity to enemy voices, striving for heights and linking their future with Russia.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 12 January 2016 04: 03 New
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        Quote: Balu
        By the way, drew attention to change of tonality in the programs of ex-matzah. Such fluffy steel, joyful voices. A fly in the ointment does not stop adding honey to your honey, which is suspicious in smell and color, but they do it not so aggressively and busily. Just quite fluffy steel.

        How is it about the black dog, which all alone cannot be washed white-hot?

        I am glad that we have slowly begun to explain to all of this liberal riffraff who they really are. At the beginning of the 90, he no longer hoped ... Although everything is clear about them a long time ago ...
      2. yanat
        yanat 14 January 2016 12: 51 New
        +1
        In the current formation of the worldview of our youth, the bitter experience of the Americanized Euro-Jewish-Bandera Ukraine also played. They took advantage of popular discontent, but before protesting you need to know under what banners where and who leads you. Much needs to be changed in Russia and together to help Putin in this is our task. I liked Putin’s phrase ".... well, you see, the people themselves want this, I have nothing to do with it ...." Only relying on the will of the people Putin is able to reverse the inert liberal decline of the country.
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  4. jaguar
    jaguar 11 January 2016 16: 50 New
    14
    Twenty-year-old Russians want to see Russia as a sovereign power. But how could it be otherwise ... we live here !!!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 14 January 2016 14: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: jaguar
      Twenty-year-old Russians want to see Russia as a sovereign power. But how could it be otherwise ... we live here !!!

      Our education is one of the facets of the sovereignty of the state, no more and no less. Mattresses understand this, therefore, they try to impose their education model wherever possible, maybe inside the United States, thanks to this education, people think and live in a stereotyped manner, which makes them easily manageable if you want a crowd.
      The reform of our education, the departure from pro-Western models is a matter of national security and the sovereignty of our state.
  5. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 11 January 2016 16: 50 New
    +4
    Dogs are mad. They feel sorry for our young people ... They poison her with Coca-Cola and hamburgers, they wash the brains of young people with Hollywood blockbusters, litter those same brains with Internet trolling, and now they feel sorry for them ... Crazy dogs!
  6. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 January 2016 16: 53 New
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    Frankly, it is still surprising that the Russians have not yet succeeded in being completely duped; ukrov, there - it turned out.

    The most important and pleasant thought in the article is that the more educated a person is, the more anti-American he is. laughing

    The fact that the United States is the main enemy of democracy around the world is clear to everyone:
    - ukrov organized a coup;
    - in Russia they participated in the falsified (one would like to write - falsified) elections (and before them - in the total plunder of Russia);
    - Gaddafi was killed for a gold reserve (a very democratic goal);
    - Hussein was tortured in order to organize in a non-selective way a very democratic ISIS in Iraq;
    - They dealt with Milosevic, because he, in accordance with the Helsing Final Act, opposed the illegal dismemberment of the country.
    1. Luga
      Luga 11 January 2016 17: 03 New
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      Quote: Gormengast
      The most important and pleasant thought in the article is that the more educated a person is, the more anti-American he is.


      I agree, the main and pleasant. good

      Well, colleagues, comrade couch soldiers, officers and generals, have wiped perspiration from a hard forehead and forward, to new achievements. There is still a lot of work ahead. Raised children - educate grandchildren!
    2. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 11 January 2016 17: 51 New
      +5
      ukrov, there - it turned out.
      Because they just fit the requirements listed below that the West always uses when building "partnership" relations.
      WHICH SKY IS BLUE
      movie "The Adventures of Pinocchio"

      The words of B. Okudzhava,
      music by A. Rybnikov

      Paw then boo di dubudai, paw then boo di dubudai ...
      Lap then boo di dubuda give, bark barking bark lalalalalala.
      Lap then bu di dubudai
      Barking barking lalalalalala

      While the bouncers live in the world,
      We must glorify our fate!

      What a blue sky
      We are not supporters of robbery:
      The bouncer does not need a knife,
      You’ll sing him a little -
      And do with it what you want!

      As long as the greedy around
      Good luck we will not lose sight of.

      What a blue sky
      We are not supporters of robbery:
      You don't need a knife for greedy
      Show him a penny
      And do with it what you want!

      As long as there are fools in the world,
      By deception, we live, therefore, with our hands.

      What a blue sky
      We are not supporters of robbery:
      A fool not need a knife,
      With three boxes you lie to him
      And do with it what you want!

      What a blue sky
      These three live in the world.
      Thank God there’s no end to them
      As the saying goes, the beast runs -
      And right on the catcher!
      laughing
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 12 January 2016 04: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: Gormengast
      The fact that the United States is the main enemy of democracy around the world is clear to everyone:
      - ukrov organized a coup;
      - in Russia they participated in the falsified (one would like to write - falsified) elections (and before them - in the total plunder of Russia);
      - Gaddafi was killed for a gold reserve (a very democratic goal);
      - Hussein was tortured in order to organize in a non-selective way a very democratic ISIS in Iraq;
      - They dealt with Milosevic, because he, in accordance with the Helsing Final Act, opposed the illegal dismemberment of the country.


      America for Indians alone forever not wash! It was only F. Cooper who wrote that the Indians came up with scalps to shoot. And who taught the Indians - that F. Cooper is silent in a rag ... And they don’t like to remember about plagued blankets in the form of "humanitarian aid" in America .... How many years have passed - but the character of the American humanitarian aid has not changed ... The same plague blankets ...
  7. Al ssz
    Al ssz 11 January 2016 16: 54 New
    -14
    Of the “marshals,” who will survive this decade? Presumably no one. There is a place for the “new” “Marshals” and even “Super”. Cool .. Super Marshal .. does not sound. Supergeneralissimus .. Is there such a card ???
  8. DMoroz
    DMoroz 11 January 2016 16: 57 New
    17
    "Author American Political Scientist, HSE Professor Alexander Domrin"

    One would like to say “However” ..., toli views at the HSE have changed, toli professors and students since the 90s

    So, for reference, digging up the network:
    Famous faculty and honorary professors at HSE:
    Gaidar Yegor Timurovich
    Kudrin Alexey Leonidovich
    Balcerovich Leszek
    Castells Manuel
    Maskin Eric (Nobel Laureate in Economics)
    Yunus Muhammad
    Lipsits Igor Vladimirovich
    Lyubimov Lev Lvovich
    Kordonsky Simon Gladevich
    Aleksashenko Sergey Vladimirovich
    Yavlinsky Grigory Alekseevich
    Yurgens Igor Yuryevich
    and many others
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 11 January 2016 17: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: DMoroz
      Yavlinsky Grigory Alekseevich

      Wow! such a name is still alive .... what
      1. wandlitz
        wandlitz 11 January 2016 18: 39 New
        +3
        Apparently avoids walking along bridges with b ...
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 11 January 2016 20: 50 New
          +3
          with b ... yami? With CIA agents! How quickly she washed off from Russia!
          1. There are a lot of us
            There are a lot of us 13 January 2016 05: 56 New
            +2
            But shaw, a CIA agent can't be ... dyu?
            1. Kunar
              Kunar 13 January 2016 06: 35 New
              +1
              Yes, this is their middle name .... laughing
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    2. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 11 January 2016 20: 48 New
      0
      So they are very educated! Everything in business and HUGE money! You can’t get on big money alone, but if you get there, you won’t be happy.
    3. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 11 January 2016 23: 13 New
      +2
      If the HSE has disappointed the Americans ... though, when I have a daughter from 2000 to 2005. studied at the Faculty of Economics HSE .... there was not so ideologized towards the liberal economy and Kuzminov behaved more modestly.
      And there were fewer faculties. As far as I remember, there were three main ones.
      By the way, economic education in those days was excellent. And very strictly approached student performance.
      As far as I remember, the HSE was created on the basis of the Higher Courses of the State Planning Commission. Some traditions at the beginning of the zero still remained.
      And yet ... HSE at that time studied very different people, with different views. I will not go far. In the same group as my daughter (daughter of a lieutenant colonel of the reserve), the son of Kiriyenko studied.
    4. I am human
      I am human 13 January 2016 08: 39 New
      0
      Quote: DMoroz
      and many others

      And many others are the same
  9. ratfly
    ratfly 11 January 2016 16: 58 New
    +6
    Well, the youth was pleased, in our conditions, the USE, distortions of history, information sabotage, etc. Well done!
  10. bronik
    bronik 11 January 2016 16: 59 New
    +6
    Every youth is, it pleases that sobering is becoming more.
  11. Fei_Wong
    Fei_Wong 11 January 2016 17: 00 New
    +9
    There is a simple rule that has been proven over the centuries: if the West scolds something Russian, it means that we are doing this “something” correctly. And vice versa: when praises - this is an occasion to reflect and correct the cause of his "praise".
  12. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 11 January 2016 17: 01 New
    +4
    that's it!!! the more well-read and educated --- you’ll get the hell out of it - our people are smarter than the State Department, so far, education-- learning is light !!!
  13. 4ekist
    4ekist 11 January 2016 17: 05 New
    -17
    Quote: Wend
    Quote: Hubun
    Throughout the face you know what. And the liberals and all such mash-up kick to the west

    Russia is generally a disappointment for the west laughing We don’t want to fall apart, we sell for hamburgers and Coca-Cola too, we support the traditional family, we don’t want color revolutions, and so on. Well, one disappointment laughing

    Do you think so? It would be naive to think so ...
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 11 January 2016 17: 50 New
      +1
      Justify. Your doubts.
  14. Al ssz
    Al ssz 11 January 2016 17: 19 New
    0
    USE works !!! Not all of us ..
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 11 January 2016 17: 52 New
      0
      And this is true unfortunately.
  15. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 11 January 2016 17: 22 New
    +2
    Broke off the "partners". It did not work to make them followers of their cult.
    Putin’s machinations, not otherwise ... fellow
  16. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 11 January 2016 17: 22 New
    12
    About two months ago I wrote about this (it's easy to check). Our youth will be even better than the generation of the 90s, my generation ... They are faster, smarter, faster ... Most likely this is a consequence of rapidly developing technologies. Now it is clear why the Olympics were needed. To rally ranks. As I recall, already goosebumps with pride.
    The West stupidly scolded the moment when it was possible to cut the thread on which Russia hung over the abyss ... And now ... WELLKING pancake! ... conquerors are worthless!
  17. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 11 January 2016 17: 23 New
    +7
    Hee hee ... In general, the Americans, just leave Russia alone, you still do not understand the Russians. Well, you just didn’t cast out on the simple-minded Yeltsin, who saw in the United States those who would help Russia, but the rustic, reckless and drunk Yeltsin miscalculated. But Russia is not Yeltsin, and we brought out this kind of “help” from you, we experienced your lovely help on ourselves in the 90s. We will not give our own to anyone, but we will not allow the "exclusive" American people to scam and crap all over the world.
  18. Colonel
    Colonel 11 January 2016 17: 23 New
    11
    Honestly, I considered the HSE the official hotbed of Western contagion. However, if the author writes sincerely, not everything is lost.
  19. A-Sim
    A-Sim 11 January 2016 17: 25 New
    +5
    "Author American Political Scientist, HSE Professor Alexander Domrin"

    Such an article, such conclusions ... and suddenly, HSE professor. The affairs of the graduates of this HSE correlate so much with the conclusions of this professor ... As the "daughter of an officer" wrote, "not everything is so simple."
  20. SklochPensioner
    SklochPensioner 11 January 2016 17: 25 New
    +5
    Quote: DMoroz
    One would like to say “However” ..., toli views at the HSE have changed, toli professors and students since the 90s


    Disguised as the underground laughing

    Or maybe the HSE's vocation is to disappoint - first us, then the Americans ...
  21. demandy1
    demandy1 11 January 2016 17: 25 New
    +2
    And now the time is not far off when Russian students will want (and they will, the Internet to help) spread their views on the decaying west! fellow Recovering the Yankees! After all, it’s not in vain that people say: “don’t be dashing, as long as it’s quiet”, or another option: “there is no sleep of a sleeping bear if you do not want to overtake a dog” laughing
  22. Lelek
    Lelek 11 January 2016 17: 35 New
    15
    (We had a “tantalizing hope” (and tantalizing hope) that Russia “will eventually move to democracy,” Mendelssohn continues.)

    Do not suffer, poor fellow, shoot yourself.
    1. kush62
      kush62 11 January 2016 18: 05 New
      +5
      Both scary makeup and scary makeup. Nature offends them, but they want to recoup on us.
      1. YGV-97219
        YGV-97219 11 January 2016 20: 13 New
        +1
        Not! Obviously not a waltz! laughing
      2. unfriendly
        unfriendly 12 January 2016 13: 27 New
        +1
        Both scary makeup and scary makeup. Nature offends them

        She had to drive away to Cologne for the new year, otherwise she would die completely without male attention ...
    2. Weyland
      Weyland 11 January 2016 22: 49 New
      0
      Yes ... I wonder if Sarah Mendelssohn sounded the march of her namesake? laughing
      Although who knows ...

      Poor Pavel Zosyu loves selflessly.
      Just love there - like snags teeth.
      The nose is like a beak and the legs are
      Legs are like wheels.
      Nails are like claws
      hump - crooked nose
      There is only one eye, against all rules.
      But then Paul’s lover is blind in both eyes.
    3. Weyland
      Weyland 11 January 2016 22: 49 New
      0
      Yes ... I wonder if Sarah Mendelssohn sounded the march of her namesake? laughing
      Although who knows ...

      Poor Pavel Zosyu loves selflessly.
      Just love there - like snags teeth.
      The nose is like a beak and the legs are
      Legs are like wheels.
      Nails are like claws
      hump - crooked nose
      There is only one eye, against all rules.
      But then Paul’s lover is blind in both eyes.
    4. I am human
      I am human 13 January 2016 08: 45 New
      0
      Baba Yaga without makeup
  23. jovanni
    jovanni 11 January 2016 17: 43 New
    +3
    Quote: colonel
    Honestly, I considered the HSE the official hotbed of Western contagion. However, if the author writes sincerely, not everything is lost.


    It would be interesting to see if the professors from his HSE will be fired now. For me personally, this abbreviation is consonant with the VPSh. Just the opposite ...
  24. Friends
    Friends 11 January 2016 17: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    It is extremely doubtful, by the way, that American universities are interested in uneducated young Russians, there are enough of their own uneducated ...


    As my grandfather said, you can be a competent fool.

    The truth of this statement is confirmed by most of our Western-oriented fellow citizens, in particular, the active part of the non-systemic opposition ...
  25. Navy7981
    Navy7981 11 January 2016 17: 48 New
    +4
    Democracy must be achieved at all costs !!! Even if everyone democratized dies, they will know that they have died democratically !!! And you can bury already liberal, dump all in a moat and fall asleep. am

    Good article. I agree with what the author wanted to say, an example is my son, my nephews, and the children of my friends. And one of them, despite the fact that his parents, if not Europhiles, are then fans, a furious Europhobia. wink
  26. Woodman
    Woodman 11 January 2016 17: 48 New
    +4
    Well now, young people have seen! Although the West just ran out of buns with which you can win the minds of youth and went "rollback". People realized that for the sake of fashionable things one should not act to the detriment of their country. It is only a pity that this experience was given to us at a high price.
  27. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 January 2016 17: 49 New
    -3
    "When asked whether such" benefits of civilization "as mobile phones inspired,
    easy Internet access, the ability to visit other countries of young Russians
    accept more liberal values ​​than those shared by their parents,
    young Russians say no. "

    Was the survey anonymous or not?
    1. your1970
      your1970 11 January 2016 19: 33 New
      +8
      We state - "Has a mobile phone influenced your attitude towards homosexuals?"
      And even if anonymous, even by name, the bulk will say "No", thank God!
    2. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 11 January 2016 20: 55 New
      +1
      You are paranoid even bigger than me! hi wink
    3. Victor-M
      Victor-M 12 January 2016 01: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Was the survey anonymous or not?

      What is the difference, it’s important that I didn’t. laughing
  28. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 11 January 2016 17: 49 New
    0
    All the same, the author is a HSE professor (common lice). Lulls vigilance! Here he writes one thing, and what he says to students at lectures, go and know! IMHO.
  29. Yasen Ping
    Yasen Ping 11 January 2016 17: 55 New
    +2
    or maybe the whole reason is the Russian language in which we think, in which there are such words as conscience, maybe because we don’t instill any liberalism, we can’t think how they are, from the point of view everything is bought and sold ??
  30. VSkilled
    VSkilled 11 January 2016 18: 02 New
    +1
    So, in the role of "guardian" for the "unfortunate Russian people", oddly enough, but - again, some kind of "sara"!

    Yes Yes! Of the next Mendelsons, Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Shenderovichs, etc.

    "Coincidence? I don’t think so! ” ©

    Since the time of Bronstein-Trotsky, they will not calm down. Apparently - everyone really wants a named ice ax, or, at least, a scarf ...
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 11 January 2016 18: 51 New
      +5
      Quote: VSkilled
      some kind of "sara"

      Come on, Sarah Wagenknecht is a cool aunt. There would be more of these in the West. I think "Sarah" is not necessarily hexagonal.
    2. Flat5160
      Flat5160 11 January 2016 20: 05 New
      +2
      So what, IVAN is also a Hebrew name. It's not a name but a brain.
  31. Horst78
    Horst78 11 January 2016 18: 12 New
    +2
    The phrase of the hero Menshov Vladimir Valentinovich from "Plot" - "People are wrong, needs to be changed" is constantly spinning in my head. There is nothing more to say about our liberals. That is what they think. With the first working day of 2016 of the year hi
  32. vobels
    vobels 11 January 2016 18: 18 New
    +4
    Our youth disappointed them, but we were pleased! And we always believe in it and will believe!
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  34. rfv0304
    rfv0304 11 January 2016 18: 53 New
    +3
    It has long been known that at first England, and then when it “receded into the background, the United States — were and will be Russia's number one enemy. And the fact that young people become older and smarter, the more they understand what America and England are with by their shit democracy, it’s all quite natural, they’ll grow a little wiser and grow older and then they will understand that any religion is just one of the instruments of the ruling classes, and that responsibilities, not rights, should prevail.
  35. Obolensky
    Obolensky 11 January 2016 19: 14 New
    +5
    This is all interesting. Of course, disappoint. After all, “then” there were other people in the States and in Western Europe, and even other methods. Then there was the Union. "The terrible enemy of the whole West." Someone who was born and raised in the Union, then left for the cordon. For they could not "find" themselves here. There they were given shelter and various buns. According to the stories, just like that. As it really was - no one knows. Are they really lying straight licked from all sides. Then came the "filling" - the West was fed up and they didn’t really need our people. And the Union has almost collapsed. And after ... Well, yes, there was another wave. Even two. But then, students and other younger ones began to manifest consciousness. "But how is it so? Why run to another country, if there too - all the same?" It turns out that they themselves brought up a generation that began to think about the fact that behind the cordon, by no means better, and sometimes it could be worse.

    There is only one question in this vein: Will our state be able to give young specialists the opportunity to realize themselves? Or will it be the same as before?
  36. Flat5160
    Flat5160 11 January 2016 19: 53 New
    16
    I was born in the 1960th year. During his life, he watched a very interesting story about a change in youth's opinion about the American lifestyle. At first I myself was young and saw how my peers, and I myself, why lie, were reaching for everything western. Chewing gum, jeans, layers, drink, magazines and all that jazz. Then, little by little, they began to allow all this, and began to print books and texts that were forbidden to print. They tried to read, thought, a good role was played by voucherisation and the dismissal of their ordinary citizens by their nouveau riche, betraying all this with the American way of life. Thinking even more. And when all the intellectual information of our compatriots (previously forbidden) became available, they thought even more. Western food - here it is, chewing gum, booze, clothes, cars, magazines with porn, the Internet, etc. - here they are. We ate quickly and thought again, and then what. To eat, consume and enjoy life in a country led by Western interests? Thinking even more. The first sign of youth was the adoption of the film "Brother" and "Brother 2" with the song "Nauitlus Pompilius" (Butusov (a fashionable composer and singer), Goodbye America. It was already a turn. Where is the truth? Everyone from the elderly to the young has already begun to think. If in my time and even in the time of my eldest son did not want to join the army and in every possible way avoided conscription, then my younger one clearly said: “I want to serve!”. Directly the words of L. Agutin about the service at the border. And the age difference between sons is 7 years. What metamorphoses in such a short time. The apples were full, they had seen enough and began to think, and how Russia rose from its knees, too, they saw, and began to respect themselves. Further more. So they themselves are to blame for the disappointment of the Americans. THERE IS NOTHING TO OFFER TO US, JUST THERE IS NOTHING THAT WOULD BE ENJOYABLE TO OUR HEART! The older one has a secondary technical education, the younger one has a higher education.
  37. Undermined ustoev
    Undermined ustoev 11 January 2016 19: 57 New
    -1
    Quote: Comrade Bender
    Still, our young people are pleased that they did not succumb to fooling with pseudo-democratic educational reforms. Let them learn and become more literate.

    Well, why so arrogant. Thanks nonetheless. Although, this is far from your merit. This is the merit of Soros. While you were talking about democracy and human rights, the Samara ball bearing, the Oryol Prompribor and Yantar falling apart under the noise, we were hammered into our heads, and so ineptly that they turned around according to Lenin’s law: they forced to delve into the original sources, the same TSB, for example. By the way, refresh your knowledge of the correct spelling of ts / ts in verbs. It hurts my eyes, and it’s not respectable for an adult who has received the best education in the world to make such mistakes.
  38. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 11 January 2016 20: 00 New
    +2
    Everyone understands everything after Putin (everyone understands and knows (Putin) the locomotive of Russia now), but there must be a modern STALIN who does not drink the USSR like Yeltsin, does not talk with thieves covering Abramovich’s Yeltsin’s wallets and Chubais’ stash like Putin, and leads RUSSIA FORWARD by leaps and bounds steps without looking back at “partners” and “friends”, reviving the former power of RUSSIA through its economic power, so that the former USSR countries would not scatter but connect (and only a strong economic state can unite the entire periphery of RUSSIA including frostbitten Ukraine).
  39. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 11 January 2016 20: 23 New
    +4
    And the last conclusion of the author: the more educated the young Russians, the more anti-American views they share. - I confirm on my own experience. And Hitler wanted to abolish education in the occupied territories for a reason ...
  40. am808s
    am808s 11 January 2016 20: 26 New
    +2
    (the more educated young Russians are, the more they share anti-American views.)
    I am glad that our youth remains OUR, despite the fact that it has been brainwashed for 25 years. The new generation, according to the dreams of penguins, should have already betrayed Russia and turned us into a European way, however, the penguin's cookie shines from here and displeasure.
  41. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 January 2016 20: 42 New
    +3
    With such thoughts and faith in my Russian students, I will enter the classroom next week.
    Honestly, balm for the soul. So not everyone sold out, even while studying abroad. There is someone to replace the snickering bureaucrats.
  42. serge siberian
    serge siberian 11 January 2016 20: 50 New
    +1
    and pulls to quote the classics: “the West will help us” (ILF and PETROV “12 CHAIRS”) thanks helped. I would also remove soap operas about how our rich cry. I’m somehow coming to a part-time job, and I’m young ” "says;" I'm paying money, why can't I get what I need? "
    I wanted to answer, they say I haven’t seen such a thing (your money) and left. But I stopped, I agreed not to work with her, I didn’t leave. But the sediment remained, I began to meet more and more of these, stupid, duped, snickering individuals with a diploma (with a float, as my peers and those who were older affectionately used to say affectionately, somehow Western thoughts in foolish lips still take root.
  43. serge siberian
    serge siberian 11 January 2016 20: 51 New
    0
    and pulls to quote the classics: “the West will help us” (ILF and PETROV “12 CHAIRS”) thanks helped. I would also remove soap operas about how our rich cry. I’m somehow coming to a part-time job, and I’m young ” "says;" I'm paying money, why can't I get what I need? "
    I wanted to answer, they say I haven’t seen such a thing (your money) and left. But I stopped, I agreed not to work with her, I didn’t leave. But the sediment remained, I began to meet more and more of these, stupid, duped, snickering individuals with a diploma (with a float, as my peers and those who were older affectionately used to say affectionately, somehow Western thoughts in foolish lips still take root.
  44. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 11 January 2016 21: 00 New
    +2
    Who can show where in the West there is such a zealously declared democracy and tolerance with liberalism, not only in recognition of the inferior?
  45. Boulochkin
    Boulochkin 11 January 2016 21: 06 New
    0
    1. Drive !!! This skier with the Ministry of Education.
    2. Drive !!! all the kodlu in his team (who received instructions in shsp).
    3. Put the pros!

    ps1: Leader is not needed now (in real time, educated people).
    ps2: Everything is bad (((
  46. Stoler
    Stoler 11 January 2016 22: 13 New
    +1
    Even the “Pepsi generation” is already sick of this “drink”! laughing
  47. smith7
    smith7 11 January 2016 23: 04 New
    +1
    Something is wrong here ... Not really disappointed? Not so much? Isn't that all? I will not believe! And the author is a professor at the HSE, and therefore one of those who hand in hand with Gaidar and Yeltsin sold (or tried to sell, but was not caught) Russia. There are quite a few young people with powdered inflamed young brains. They are easily organized through social networks and motivated to overthrow the "Putin regime." 25 years lost the values ​​of the USSR, the Russian Empire, imperishable Christian values. It will have to be restored not one or two generations. I mean, you don’t need to relax. The enemy does not sleep and is better experienced in propaganda. Wangyu - something will happen in the fall or spring of 2017. I want to make a mistake, but I’m unknowingly anxious.
  48. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 11 January 2016 23: 22 New
    +3
    25 years of anti-Russian propaganda of the Russian media and their curators have not been able to uproot the roots of the titular nation of Russia. Had it happened otherwise, this country, as the liberals called it, would not have been the center of gravity of anti-terrorist forces throughout the world. To achieve its goal of global domination, the world behind the scenes seeks to destroy national states and make the world look like the United States, where the concept of nationality is absent. Only nation states defend the interests of their peoples, and not global monopolies.
    It is gratifying that the younger generation does not live up to the expectations of our "partners."
  49. Victor-M
    Victor-M 12 January 2016 01: 57 New
    +1
    Mickiewicz professor of political science, Director of the Center for the Study of Communications and prestigious journalism Duke University of North Carolina. Her last monograph was devoted to the views and moods of the young generation of Russians. Miscavige is an honest analyst.

    But does this happen? belay Now I’ll cry. crying
  50. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 12 January 2016 04: 08 New
    +1
    “Superman” -popularly at one time **** explained! It is necessary to treat the “exceptional”, apparently like the “super-human” brain through an enema with typhon needles.