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Vilnius urged European countries not to buy electricity generated at nuclear power plants in Russia and Belarus

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Lithuanian Energy Minister Rokas Masiulis urged neighboring countries - Latvia, Estonia, Poland and Finland - not to buy electricity, which will be produced at nuclear power plants under construction in the Kaliningrad region of the Russian Federation and the Grodno region of Belarus, reports Look with reference to tass.




“The nuclear power plants under construction in the Kaliningrad region and Belarus pose a threat to the environment and create unfair competition in the electricity market,” Masiulis said.

“It is necessary to send a clear signal that the European Union will not accept electricity generated in violation of the international nuclear safety regulations and requirements for environmental impact assessment,” he said.

The minister urged "to discuss this issue as soon as possible at the regional level, and then include it on the EU agenda." “We need to develop uniform rules for the purchase of electricity in these countries,” said Masiulis.

Lithuania claims that the Russian Federation and Belarus "did not provide an assessment of the impact of future nuclear facilities on the environment" and do not want to "adhere to international requirements in the field of nuclear energy safety."

The newspaper reminds that the construction of the first in Belarus NPP with a capacity of 2400 MW is conducted by Rosatom.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 7 January 2016 13: 10 New
    172
    “Did not provide an assessment of the impact of future nuclear facilities on the environment”

    Lithuania not introduced? And with what fright should they provide it? Lithuania, who is that? And where?
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 7 January 2016 13: 12 New
      46
      The dog barks ...
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 7 January 2016 13: 16 New
        172
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/689/iyna661.jpg
        1. Sasha 19871987
          Sasha 19871987 7 January 2016 13: 20 New
          78
          let them heat their TPPs with ecologically clean poop ... business then ... they themselves are sitting on our current and gas, but they have time to pump the rights ... flawed people ...
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 7 January 2016 13: 34 New
            23
            Quote: Sasha 19871987
            let them heat their TPPs with ecologically clean poop ... business then ... they themselves are sitting on our current and gas, but they have time to pump the rights ... flawed people ...

            It’s all simpler. The fact is that the Crimea refused Khokhlyat energy, and where to put it, they come up with the idea that RADIATION BY WIRES IS TRANSMITTED wink
            1. PValery53
              PValery53 7 January 2016 15: 52 New
              +9
              Quote: NIKNN
              RADIATION BY WIRES ARE TRANSMITTED

              - Look how Lithuanian science has leaped forward! - The Shnobel Prize would be for them (by pulling)!
              1. Mahmut
                Mahmut 7 January 2016 19: 54 New
                23
                Why cheap calls. Let them move to 60 hertz.
                1. crambol
                  crambol 7 January 2016 21: 09 New
                  +2
                  Great, Mahmut! It is a pity that no one intuitively what it is!
                  1. AnpeL
                    AnpeL 7 January 2016 21: 25 New
                    +1
                    Head of the Ministry of Energy of Lithuania Rokas Masiulis called on neighboring countries - Latvia, Estonia, Poland and Finland - not to buy electricity that will be produced at nuclear power plants under construction in the Kaliningrad region of the Russian Federation and the Grodno region of Belarus

                    Where then to get e / energy to these countries ?? Maybe in Lithuania) if it can provide ...
                    It turns out like - "Do not love him, love me! I'm good!" smile
                2. northern
                  northern 7 January 2016 21: 35 New
                  +1
                  And they buy electricity in Japan :-)))
              2. northern
                northern 7 January 2016 21: 35 New
                0
                exactly what! Keyword - "jumped" :-)))
              3. Dilshat
                Dilshat 7 January 2016 23: 40 New
                +4
                With the same success he could say: People! Do not eat sugar! This is white death!
              4. vic58
                vic58 8 January 2016 05: 23 New
                +1
                Yes, no, they’ll get a vnhnobelovskuyu prize when they start the sprat drive generator))) hi
            2. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 7 January 2016 16: 28 New
              +5
              Ahh ... Will they drag them with buckets? Just skills in building something in modern Ukraine, they are, as it were, softer ... Well, you understand. Power line for them is an impossible task laughing
              1. papanya59
                papanya59 8 January 2016 11: 51 New
                +1
                The destruction of power lines is doable! And then the Mejlis members commanded (through the Turks!).
            3. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 7 January 2016 17: 20 New
              31
              Quote: NIKNN
              It’s all simpler. The fact is that the Crimea refused Khokhlyat energy, and where to put it, they come up with the idea that RADIATION BY WIRES IS TRANSMITTED

              Take it higher))) Crimea has absolutely nothing to do with it.
              The fact is that the Balts clung to each other for the construction of a nuclear power plant with the money of the European Union, which everyone wants to see on their territory, and here Poland also decided to improve its energy independence by building a nuclear power plant. If there is a supply of excess energy from Kaliningrad and Belarus, the EU can generally slow down the financing of nuclear power plant projects. extra costs during the crisis are not needed, payback is only in the distant future, and too many nuclear power plants in the region increase the risks of its pollution. Here is an euromarket raging with calls for a blockade in order to raise its significance as the “right” energy supplier to the European market. But while they agree among themselves which of them will be the "central electrician", our energy will already go.
              1. svd-xnumx
                svd-xnumx 7 January 2016 18: 08 New
                +9
                The fact is that the Balts clung to each other for the construction of a nuclear power plant with the money of the European Union, which everyone wants to see on their territory, and here Poland also decided to improve its energy independence by building a nuclear power plant.
                And the cable is pulled to Sweden to buy electric energy there, but here a big "zrada" can wait for them
                The power cable to Lithuania is not a common topic in the Swedish media. But the country's largest daily

                Svenska Dagbladet

                recently published an article titled "Sweden runs the risk of disappointing the Baltic countries again."

                Its author, a well-known energy consultant, founder of the elstatistik.se website, which records changes in the electric market, Harald Klomp recalls that Sweden has decided to close nuclear power plants, so Lithuania may be disappointed because it hopes to get cheaper electricity.

                An energy specialist noted that the decision to shut down nuclear reactors was made when NordBalt cable began to be laid.

                Instead of cheaper electricity, Sweden may need a cable to import electricity from Russia and Belarus.

                After the closure of nuclear power plants, the southern side of Sweden, from which electricity must come, may face a shortage of energy.
              2. Hyppopotut
                Hyppopotut 8 January 2016 09: 25 New
                +7
                I especially liked the term euromarkh !!! good
            4. Reserve officer
              Reserve officer 7 January 2016 17: 28 New
              31
              Very similar squeals were heard from the Baltic countries and from Finland about the construction of our ports in the Gulf of Finland. Also about the environment, although such studies are now a necessary step in any project of this level.
              Just the reason is different. By 2018, Russian Ust-Luga will reach a cargo turnover of 180 million tons, which, together with our ports Vysotsky and Primorsky, will completely block the total cargo turnover of all Baltic ports. Goodbye transit?
              1. Hyppopotut
                Hyppopotut 8 January 2016 09: 26 New
                +4
                And no fucking spit in the well ...
          2. mihasik
            mihasik 7 January 2016 13: 39 New
            +8
            Quote: Sasha 19871987
            let them heat their TPPs with ecologically clean poop ... business then ... they themselves are sitting on our current and gas, but they have time to pump the rights ... flawed people ...

            Can he just rent “Crimean blockers” from Banderland for a while?) And then the lads stagnated at Perekop without a real European case)! All the power lines have already blown up. Yes, and the "forest twin" should be helped in the fight against the "Aggressive Mordor"!)) But Lithuania really needs to be cleaned of goods so that the brains of the "nation" would be tears clean and immaculate by civilization. We must, as they say, return to the roots! Well, i.e. ray)!
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 7 January 2016 13: 56 New
              +9
              Vilnius urged European countries not to buy electricity generated at nuclear power plants in Russia and Belarus

              This Litvar has already gotten her whine! am
              1. Sausuolis
                Sausuolis 7 January 2016 14: 48 New
                -67
                And what are you going to do?
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 7 January 2016 15: 26 New
                  27
                  Quote: Sausuolis
                  And what are you going to do?

                  And when the Bear Lapotnik noticed a civilized Lithuanian? We are not trained in clubfoot. so do not blame me. Yes, and you are not tasty
                2. pilot8878
                  pilot8878 7 January 2016 15: 45 New
                  45
                  Quote: Sausuolis
                  And what are you going to do?

                  Never mind. We spit on you fools.
                  1. BARKHAN
                    BARKHAN 7 January 2016 20: 34 New
                    13
                    Quote: pilot8878
                    Quote: Sausuolis
                    And what are you going to do?

                    Never mind. We spit on you fools.


                    The most ridiculous and ironic thing in this situation is that you really don’t need to do anything ... As with kaklami, all these vulnerable people with a sick imagination do everything worthless for themselves ...
                    Just imagine a hero comes out to duel with the enemy ... and the enemy stands and hits his head with a club. With a feeling, measuredly, with a guy ... Well, what to do a hero? Wait a bit! Don’t interfere with the process ...
                3. justKyr
                  justKyr 7 January 2016 16: 11 New
                  +3
                  What if a little bear wants to poke fun ..... is that Lithuania enough to collect garbage?
                4. antaeus
                  antaeus 7 January 2016 16: 23 New
                  24
                  We will complete the station in Kaliningrad. And according to all laws and regulations on nuclear warheads, we’ll cover it with the Iskander regiment and air defense systems. From the terrorist threat from Europe.
                5. 33 Watcher
                  33 Watcher 7 January 2016 16: 30 New
                  +1
                  Yes, absolutely nothing ...
                6. Petrovich1952
                  Petrovich1952 7 January 2016 17: 16 New
                  +4
                  And what will you do then you will be a warrior? You can sing out a switch for preventive maintenance for another two or three hours.
                7. marlin1203
                  marlin1203 7 January 2016 17: 26 New
                  +4
                  And what, "something" right so much Lithuanians want? soldier sit quietly on the seashore and get high in the European Union, if possible.
                8. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 7 January 2016 18: 19 New
                  +8
                  Quote: Sausuolis
                  And what are you going to do?

                  Drown you in ... electricity.
                  1. ruzirus
                    ruzirus 8 January 2016 09: 21 New
                    +2
                    So they are afraid of it! What did this comprador say? "... create unfair competition in the electricity market (Masiulis)." That's where the dog rummaged (miles sorry for quoting labeled trash). Then Lithuania, against which he is working as a minister, will have the opportunity to buy inexpensive energy. It was not for nothing that people like him ruined their station in the nineties ... Nothing personal, as our opponents say, is business.
                9. Pilat2009
                  Pilat2009 7 January 2016 20: 38 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Sausuolis
                  And what are you going to do?

                  You believe it, no, your Baltic states care about me like a bear hare. A hare can only give a shit on a bear path, hoping that the bear will not notice. So calm down and develop your GDP
                10. Pirogov
                  Pirogov 7 January 2016 21: 01 New
                  +9
                  And what will you do then you will be a warrior? ........................................... ...............................
                  .................................................. ..............................
                  Who needs you! and about Lithuania you can hear only after L.ai addressed to Russia. And so there you are, you do not care a lot. so do not stop, continue their vuyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy vuyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, and the more your host in the United States will forget about you and money will not give, so you will not two and a half million 6 Aukštaitija and Nadruva ............ ............... and tell me auxstein who let you call yourself Lithuanian, is not the Russian Tsar? So remember this and be thankful.
                11. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 7 January 2016 22: 29 New
                  12
                  Quote: Sausuolis
                  And what are you going to do?

                  We will laugh wildly at your built defensive fences dear. wassat fellow laughing
                12. ruzirus
                  ruzirus 8 January 2016 09: 13 New
                  +4
                  Nothing ... You weren’t needed before, but now after your whining and licking different places the owners are not at all interested. Eat sprats, beg for handouts from Brussels. You are no one to us ... Now, not even trading partners.
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                14. bocsman
                  bocsman 8 January 2016 12: 57 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Sausuolis
                  And what are you going to do?

                  And then you do not need to do anything. The EU and oligophrenics from the Lithuanian government will do everything. Ignalinka, which could have benefited the state for another twenty years, was closed, the LNG terminal that no one needs was built, they quarreled with Russia. Now they are taught how to live others. So Masulis wait for the next trick not from Russia but from his government.
                15. c3r
                  c3r 8 January 2016 20: 54 New
                  +2
                  Sprats tear on the British flag, warrior!
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                1. deduly1957
                  deduly1957 8 January 2016 01: 06 New
                  +2
                  Well, the cat tattered meowed
                2. Pirogov
                  Pirogov 8 January 2016 12: 15 New
                  +4
                  listen up! do not insult my homeland !!! not he no I did not write here RASHAPARASH !!! the people there are normal, bad politicians! continue to watch your broom, dear! .......................................... ............................
                  .................................................. ..............................
                  .................................................. ..............................
                  .................................................. ..............................
                  .................................................. ..For your broom, watch the English citizen himself or who you are there, and always remember that the islands quickly go under the water! ,,, Scots just feel sorry ,,,! And the fact that I wrote this is 100% true and you know it, so she warps you!
          3. Gorynovich
            Gorynovich 7 January 2016 13: 51 New
            15
            Quote: Sasha 19871987
            let them heat their thermal power plants with environmentally friendly poop ... business then ...

            Everything is not so hopeless for them: people can easily get people on exercise bikes upgraded to the level of bicycle generators.

            Threat Scary to think how high the Baltic cycling will rise. Well, as a free bonus to the spurt of energy.
          4. Old Schweik
            Old Schweik 7 January 2016 13: 52 New
            24
            No, they gathered at Amer to buy electricity. In batteries. And deliver on barges. Of course it will be more expensive, but not for the damned Russians. Hallelujah! tongue
            1. v1tz
              v1tz 7 January 2016 14: 21 New
              17
              Yeah, or liquefied electricity on tankers from the United States.
          5. Maxom75
            Maxom75 7 January 2016 14: 29 New
            +9
            Spit on the finals of these flawed, Finns have been buying email for 70 years. energy from Russia, there the cables are already 70 years old and the energy goes through them clearly.
          6. svp67
            svp67 7 January 2016 17: 42 New
            0
            Quote: Sasha 19871987
            let them heat their TPPs with ecologically clean poop ... business then ... they themselves are sitting on our current and gas, but they have time to pump the rights ... flawed people ...

            This is just a business and nothing personal.
          7. ilyinval61
            ilyinval61 9 January 2016 01: 25 New
            +3

            Here it says it all. There is nothing to add.
            1. rodin12
              rodin12 9 January 2016 11: 59 New
              0
              yes, let the firewood be heated, since they refuse everything, it's your choice
        2. zanoza
          zanoza 7 January 2016 17: 43 New
          11
          They whine because the EU has covered the Ignalina NPP with precisely these "considerations."
          Now they are trolling Europe: they covered us, so do not buy electricity in Russia and Belarus.
          But really, they themselves will be the first in line for electricity.
        3. Al_oriso
          Al_oriso 7 January 2016 18: 28 New
          +3
          Clear. Someone in Vilnius was shocked. This someone realized that the current is Russian, and even from a nuclear power plant. Current Russian sabotage.
      2. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 7 January 2016 16: 29 New
        +6
        It is necessary to send a clear signal that the European Union will not accept electricity generated in violation of international nuclear safety regulations and environmental impact assessment requirements

        I don’t understand, but what did we ask them to buy our electricity?
        We have no energy-intensive industries?

        But do they know what a huge amount of electricity is required for the operation of combat lasers, super antennas, climate guns, means of a new generation of missile defense and for simultaneously charging the technical equipment of the division of the latest mobile Carlsons with helicopter pants?
        1. Wezen
          Wezen 7 January 2016 17: 47 New
          +2
          Why are you scaring the Baltic Terriers? They will now ban electricity altogether and equate it to a "devilish manifestation", and they will not use it themselves, and they will dissuade others.
      3. Asadullah
        Asadullah 7 January 2016 17: 44 New
        17
        The dog barks ...


        Not certainly in that way. A dog for no reason does not bark, spoils due to its bad manners .... but this is the case, the Baltic countries, and first of all Lithuania, this is the Trojan horse of Americans in the EU, and all initiatives of Lithuania are always preceded by long consultations with the State Department. It just so happened that the USA could not directly give the command to Europeans, because of that, there must always be at hand a co-zel who would lead the herd to the slaughterhouse. Lithuania voices the American project, then the matter is initiation. The pro-American lobby in Brussels supports this initiative and it is starting to be rolled in. What is the success of such a technique? The fact is that in the European bureaucratic community it has become customary that one of the worst sins and a stop-crane in moving up the career ladder is suspicions of sympathy for Russia. Failure to support such initiatives is the first reason to be accused of love for Putin. The technology is refined and, for example, in Lithuania itself it is a great success. To the detriment of its own economy, which, incidentally, is not needed by the state, which fills its budget with EU structural funds. The main economy of Lithuania is to push American geopolitical projects into the EU. And the matter is not in the size of the country at all, it is a subject, a figure, on a geopolitical board. And I always wrote, instead of giggling arrogantly, you need to track movements, compare them, and you can accurately determine the development of the situation.
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 7 January 2016 18: 24 New
        +1
        A caravan tramples on it.
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      7. hrapon
        hrapon 7 January 2016 23: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Samaritan
        The dog barks ...


        No, these are phantom pains after the closure of Ignalina NPP.
      8. The black
        The black 8 January 2016 10: 31 New
        +1
        it’s desirable that they would also set an example for everyone, abandon our gas. Right here today, in winter laughing
      9. V
        V 10 January 2016 00: 21 New
        +1
        and the caravan is on)))
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 7 January 2016 13: 14 New
      21
      Accepted the Baltic states ...)))
      1. figwam
        figwam 7 January 2016 13: 18 New
        18
        “The nuclear power plants under construction in the Kaliningrad region and Belarus pose a threat to the environment and create unfair competition in the electricity market,” Masiulis said.

        So we are doing everything right.
      2. Samaritan
        Samaritan 7 January 2016 13: 19 New
        80
        good I was shocked for the New Year in Tallinn, when people opened champagne at 23.00 p.m. after the speech of the GDP and the chiming clock ...
        They already listened to their "president" at 00 o'clock in between, with comments like "yap" ...
        1. combat66
          combat66 7 January 2016 13: 41 New
          35
          Do you think this is only in Tallinn ?! wink
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 7 January 2016 20: 40 New
            +3
            Quote: combat66
            Do you think this is only in Tallinn ?! wink

            Something seems to me that even in the White House, holding his breath and turning into one bitter attention, Uncle Vova and Obamych listened, wiping away a tear coming from tenderness belay
        2. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 7 January 2016 14: 04 New
          40
          Quote: Samaritan
          good I was shocked for the New Year in Tallinn, when people opened champagne at 23.00 p.m. after the speech of the GDP and the chiming clock ...
          They already listened to their "president" at 00 o'clock in between, with comments like "yap" ...

          This is what we have in the Donbass all my life.
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 7 January 2016 14: 25 New
            +3
            I don’t know how you have it in “Turkey”, but we listened to the President carefully. First: he was sad, and did not promise anything good. Second: Even if war does not happen, we’ll tighten our belts.
          2. proletarian
            proletarian 7 January 2016 21: 09 New
            11
            But perhaps only in Tallinn or in the Donbass, we also have New Year's Eve celebrated by the Kremlin chimes, and 00.00 Ukrainian time we did not even notice; WE ALREADY WELL, in general, the New Year was a success !!!
            1. NyeMoNik70
              NyeMoNik70 7 January 2016 21: 54 New
              +4
              Southwest fully support! Uncle Vova, Moscow, chimes, cheers, champagne ... vodka, bears and now "... so that our enemies are dead." New Year's days were very calm. From the 20th of January we expect a wave of mobilization. Happy New Year and Merry Christmas to all!
              PS Again the familiar flag got out. Some kind of karma.
        3. R-140
          R-140 7 January 2016 14: 55 New
          +1
          And in more detail you can?
        4. Zverboy
          Zverboy 10 January 2016 05: 42 New
          +1
          In Kiev and with friends, I opened champagne with Putin))
      3. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 7 January 2016 13: 23 New
        35
        This country of Lilliputia is cheerful in the Baltic! I made an empty wasteland at the industrial site, the residents united in a friendly way to earn money around the world, the amount of electric energy demand decreased to the level of a Zimbabwean urban-type village, and now they are whining. Give the Europeans brothers all together we will not buy electric energy from Russia! Charms straight!

        "And let us reduce our needs to our capabilities, and we will live happily ever after!" A. Raikin fool
        1. 34 region
          34 region 7 January 2016 13: 36 New
          12
          So for the sake of a wasteland the Union republics led to democracy. Yelling about the environment is a smoke screen. European oil refineries buy oil from Turkey and not a goo about ecology. Balts wanted to live like paradise! Oh well! They just forgot that there went naked, barefoot and ate apples! Well! A dream come true! Paradise life begins!
    3. Finches
      Finches 7 January 2016 13: 17 New
      14
      Masulis can ask for anything, but the West is guided not by the Baltic BDSM - fantasies, but by a pragmatic look at surplus value! laughing
      1. kergudu straight
        kergudu straight 7 January 2016 14: 55 New
        0
        Eugene, hello, how so, again in the captains?
        1. Finches
          Finches 7 January 2016 16: 09 New
          +7
          Good day, Nikolai! hi

          I violated the rules and the punishing sword of the site administration demoted me clean! Well, even amnestied - with the loss of all regalia, but it's better than an eternal ban!
          1. vadson
            vadson 7 January 2016 19: 03 New
            10
            Merry Christmas, the administration on the site generally surprises me - stupid scream and spam are welcomed and criticism of our deeply beloved government is stupidly deleted, without warning, without explanation, even the inscription about deleted comments does not remain. uncomfortable opinion uproots without a trace - I'm disappointed
            1. Finches
              Finches 7 January 2016 19: 11 New
              +8
              Merry Christmas! hi

              Apparently, the administration of VO does not want to be banned forever .... smile
    4. vlad66
      vlad66 7 January 2016 13: 21 New
      18
      Quote: Pereira
      Lithuania not introduced? And with what fright should they provide it?

      So because idiots ruined their energy, they left only sprats from the economy.
      1. TVM - 75
        TVM - 75 7 January 2016 13: 34 New
        +7
        No need for sprats! In Soviet times, there were sprats - size, taste. Now it’s overcooked sprat, and sometimes even hamsa.
        1. kote119
          kote119 7 January 2016 13: 46 New
          +2
          so sprat - this is Baltic sprat
    5. veksha50
      veksha50 7 January 2016 13: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Pereira
      Lithuania, who is that?



      At this stage, it positions itself as the mouthpiece of the EU ...
    6. Dart2027
      Dart2027 7 January 2016 13: 27 New
      31
      Lithuania is something like this
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 7 January 2016 14: 40 New
        +1
        This is not democratic electricity, apparently ... In any case, Belarus is building a nuclear power plant for itself, first of all, in order to provide residents with energy, and not in order to rummage in NATO.
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 7 January 2016 14: 46 New
          14
          When Putin turned to the Germans, was the miracle of the Lithuanian Ministry of Energy climbing porn sites? For those who repeat from an armored train:
          1. fif21
            fif21 7 January 2016 15: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: yuriy55
            When Putin turned to the Germans
            Well, he hinted to them - you’ll go to Siberia to drown with firewood, and the Germans were delighted, clapping, and they won’t understand that they would only be allowed into prison in Siberia as prisoners of war, or like their juvenile criminals for re-education.
            1. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 7 January 2016 16: 37 New
              +8
              So! I don’t need any criminals here. And I won’t give firewood. Let them recycle or coal. Forests are few already. Not enough for ourselves tongue
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    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 7 January 2016 14: 43 New
      +3
      And how will they determine how this or that kilowatt is worked out, at nuclear power plants or not? Are they different in color?
    8. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 7 January 2016 14: 44 New
      19
      There was an energy-rich republic within the USSR and she decided to become a member of the EU. To do this, she closed her nuclear power plant and lost citizens abroad. And now it requires a clear signal that you should not buy goods from a more intelligent manufacturer.
    9. viktor561
      viktor561 7 January 2016 15: 33 New
      +4
      But how to distinguish electricity in a single system - to separate by electron - this from a nuclear power plant, this from a thermal power plant, but this one from a hydroelectric power station - The Baltic states are dumbing before our eyes as they got into the EU - they are completely dumb!
      1. fif21
        fif21 7 January 2016 15: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: viktor561
        And how to distinguish electricity in a single system - to separate by electron - this from a nuclear power plant, this from a thermal power plant, and this one from a hydroelectric power station

        You don’t know! Energy from nuclear power plants - radiation! It is in the EU that every “green” student knows. laughing And since there is no industry of its own, then no electricity is needed, and other raw materials too! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wassat
    10. WKS
      WKS 7 January 2016 15: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      Lithuania, who is that? And where?

      Lithuania is actually in the distant past. The current states in its territories are Ukraine, Belarus, Poland and Lietuva. For some reason, the latter, calling himself Lietuva, wants the rest to call it Lithuania.
    11. Persistent
      Persistent 7 January 2016 16: 14 New
      0
      Lithuania not introduced? And with what fright should they provide it? Lithuania, who is that? And where?

      Labuses are trying to dissuade others from buying. And then buying yourself will bring down the price .... fool laughing
    12. papas-57
      papas-57 7 January 2016 17: 23 New
      +3
      It is high time to break ALL economic relations with the Balts. You won’t get much money from them, so at least see how Geyropa will help his allies.
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    14. Oleg Lavrov
      Oleg Lavrov 7 January 2016 19: 11 New
      +4
      this is the Baltics !! )) she is all "patrolled" and in different poses and with elements of sadomasochism !!))
    15. vic58
      vic58 8 January 2016 05: 13 New
      0
      Somewhere in the US opera ...
    16. python2a
      python2a 8 January 2016 17: 19 New
      +1
      Nuclear energy in terms of emissions of radionuclides into the atmosphere is far behind in comparison with coal-fired power plants and boiler houses.
    17. garhail
      garhail 8 January 2016 20: 03 New
      0
      About 20-30 years ago, Ignalin equipment was installed. everything was ok.
      Apparently, in recent years, the opportunity to "cut", i.e. The EU is allocating money for environmental protection, while the local freezers have already "buried the nuclear power plants" and shoved the money into their pockets. Reference: INPP generated the cheapest and most environmentally friendly energy in the Baltics + completely excluded dependence on other suppliers
    18. Onotollah
      Onotollah 9 January 2016 11: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Pereira
      Lithuania, who is that? And where?

      Well, something like this:
    19. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 9 January 2016 14: 10 New
      0
      I certainly understand that the anecdotal inhibition of the Baltic states is an exaggeration. But! As far as I remember, the Baltic NPP has been under construction for three years now.
    20. vic58
      vic58 10 January 2016 07: 21 New
      0
      Do not be like the Americans! And then "it's somewhere in Oklahoma!" ... laughing
  2. venaya
    venaya 7 January 2016 13: 11 New
    22
    Lithuania openly works "for itself". Having destroyed its own Ignalina NPP, having lost most of its industry, it also allows itself to teach neighbors this frankly economic lawlessness. Is Belarusian electricity not kosher?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 7 January 2016 13: 15 New
      27
      Lithuania does not work "for itself." Rather, she goes there. They do not want to be the only idiots in the region. I also want to mess up others. The company is not so ashamed.
      Although, Latvia with its gas terminal is already in the company.
      1. iConst
        iConst 7 January 2016 13: 21 New
        10
        Quote: Pereira
        Lithuania does not work "for itself." Rather, she goes there. They do not want to be the only idiots in the region. I also want to mess up others. The company is not so ashamed.
        Although, Latvia with its gas terminal already in the company.

        - Actually, it was the same Lithuania that built a terminal for LNG and signed a stupid contract with Norway and now does not know who to get this gas into.
        They clearly aimed at energy resources - it is difficult to compete in the agricultural field.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 7 January 2016 13: 40 New
          +9
          So I in vain accused Latvia of stupidity? Then I take my words back and affirm that Latvia is a model of keen mind and foresight, which distinguishes this Baltic tiger from all its neighbors.
          1. bannik
            bannik 7 January 2016 14: 28 New
            0
            As for the mind and foresight - this is you to the point! Recently (the source is not verified, but, they say, quite reliable - “OBS Agency”) I found out that Latvia, inspired by the example of a neighbor, also decided to build a terminal, but not a gas one, but an electric one! Those. they will import (you know where) the electric energy by batteries and accumulators, convert it into alternating current and sell it to all interested (concerned) parties. Well, so is EMF in them ....!
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 7 January 2016 20: 16 New
              0
              How did Jamilev not guess at the border with the Crimea to build a center for charging car batteries with non-volatile electricity?
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        3. APASUS
          APASUS 7 January 2016 13: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: iConst
          Actually, it was the same Lithuania that built a terminal for LNG and signed a stupid contract with Norway and now does not know who to get this gas in. They clearly aimed at energy resources - it is difficult to compete in the agricultural field.

          Judging by this logic, you should stretch the cable from a democratic Ukraine and buy electricity from them, or even better, the super energy giant of Georgia.
        4. Sausuolis
          Sausuolis 7 January 2016 14: 56 New
          -29
          In fact, after this stupid terminal, Gazprom lowered our prices by 20 percent or more.
          If it weren’t for the foolish butting oil terminal in Buting, there would have been problems with oil since Russia has been “repairing” “friendship” I don’t know how many years ...
          We made electric bridges with Sweden and Poland ... many millions were worth ... and electricity is getting cheaper for consumers ...
          Apparently, without Russia, "everything is lost" :)
          1. iConst
            iConst 7 January 2016 15: 53 New
            15
            Quote: Sausuolis
            In fact, after this stupid terminal, Gazprom lowered our prices by 20 percent or more.

            - Actually, I called the contract stupid - the Lithuanians themselves admitted that nobody needed that amount of gas. And this happened after your Baltic brothers in the person of Estonia and Latvia refused to buy gas in those quantities and for that price.

            And secondly - in contracts, the price of gas is tied to the cost of oil. And price revisions are normal.

            So do not exaggerate the economic effect of the terminal.
            1. Asadullah
              Asadullah 7 January 2016 18: 17 New
              +4
              And this happened after your Baltic brothers in the person of Estonia and Latvia refused to buy gas in those quantities and for that price.


              Oh, my friend! You do not yet know the latest news, the Lithuanian government decided to sell gas at the price that would suit Latvia and Estonia. That is, at a loss. laughing They are trying to impose on them the payment of recovery and transportation. They get a normal answer like that, and why the heck do we need it ??? Here is a good example of Baltic solidarity to restrain Russia. And he is not the only one. Looking at the Lithuanian terminal, Estonia abandoned its idea, and in Latvia all talk about the central distribution hub has died out.
          2. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 7 January 2016 16: 45 New
            +1
            I’m just wondering when the EU, with its common, planned economy, will begin to burst at the seams, than will the Baltic economic giants pay for all this? Cheaper? The degree of non-volatility and external debt figures in the studio!
          3. Asadullah
            Asadullah 7 January 2016 18: 10 New
            17
            In fact, after this stupid terminal, Gazprom lowered our prices by 20 percent or more.
            If it weren’t for the foolish butting oil terminal in Buting, there would have been problems with oil since Russia has been “repairing” “friendship” I don’t know how many years ...
            We made electric bridges with Sweden and Poland ... many millions were worth ... and electricity is getting cheaper for consumers ...
            Apparently, without Russia, "everything is lost" :)


            Do you want to fool someone here? Given that most of the electorate are former and current military .... The price of gas has been reduced, as it is formed with reference to the price of oil. Oil is getting cheaper, the price of gas is the same. But not for Lithuanian consumers, for they are required to buy gas from the terminal by law. This gas is three times more expensive, with recovery and distribution, than Gazprom. Such a normal law. Democratic. The Soviet Buteng project, works only because Orlien Lietuva dismantled the railway to Latvia, from which it was more profitable to deliver fuel. That is, the Russian Ivan was excommunicated from the pipe, but the Polish Yatsek dictates to you what to buy petroleum products, using the right of a monopolist, which protects the agreement with your government. Electric bridges are not working yet, and you are buying electricity on the stock exchange, where the price has almost halved, but the consumer has not noticed this, and the enterprises have even risen in price, because the distribution is owned by a monopolist, the same one that controls 60% of retail trade, the one that Gribauskaite and gave all distribution and generation, because the state decided not to build a nuclear power station with the money of a national investor. Moreover, as soon as the cables from Sweden are involved, electricity will immediately rise in price by 20% (remember this figure), and if the coalition of liberal conservatives comes to power, then the synchronization project will be pushed over in a year, which means an increase in price of electricity by another 60%, in function, you expect a double tariff increase. Just at the time when they are declining, for example in Poland. So dear dried, fool each other at home, you like it, fool each other.
          4. APASUS
            APASUS 7 January 2016 22: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: Sausuolis
            In fact, after this stupid terminal, Gazprom lowered our prices by 20 percent or more.
            If it weren’t for the foolish butting oil terminal in Buting, there would have been problems with oil since Russia has been “repairing” “friendship” I don’t know how many years ...
            We made electric bridges with Sweden and Poland ... many millions were worth ... and electricity is getting cheaper for consumers ...
            Apparently, without Russia, "everything is lost" :)

            It is even easier to take and calculate how many people have stopped using the services of the national gas system, they just left the country, you just have the Victory every day!
            All look for the reason in Russia, which destroyed the WEF, sawed up RAV, handed it over to Radiotehniku, now Russia is to blame for your expensive gas, electricity has fallen in price so rejoice
          5. Hyppopotut
            Hyppopotut 8 January 2016 09: 34 New
            0
            Blow your cheeks harder !!! Your achievements in economic development over the past quarter century are impressive ... crying
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    3. Altona
      Altona 7 January 2016 13: 21 New
      18
      Quote: venaya
      Lithuania openly works "for itself". Having destroyed its own nuclear power plant, having lost most of its industry, it also allows itself to teach neighbors this frankly economic lawlessness. Is Belarusian electricity not kosher?

      -----------------------
      Ignalina NPP was ruined, although it was modern and posed no threat to the environment. If only Europe would like and please. And this nuclear power plant could supply all their current and future economies with cheap energy and export it to their neighbors. But the farm and thinking in the hay area, no higher.
      1. iConst
        iConst 7 January 2016 13: 40 New
        +7
        Quote: Altona
        Ignalina NPP was ruined, although it was modern and posed no threat to the environment. If only Europe would like and please.

        - Not that I like it - it was one of the points for joining the EU.

        But why poke them: how much pokersil Russia to join the WTO?
        They don’t tell us this, otherwise people will be shocked.

        We traded for several years. Of the leaks (I don’t know whether they got away from these points or not), one of the requirements was to paint more fuselage aircraft: there is a Boeing, Airbus.
        1. Altona
          Altona 7 January 2016 14: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: iConst
          We traded for several years. Of the leaks (I don’t know whether they got away from these points or not), one of the requirements was to paint more fuselage aircraft: there is a Boeing, Airbus.

          ------------------
          Yes, they surrendered almost free of charge, no particularly protective duties and all so that after three years we would be put into sanctions and restrictions, contrary to this WTO. It was beneficial for exporters of steel, oil and gas, with them reduced duties. The others just didn't give a damn. The term "like" and was used as a concession to EU requirements.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 7 January 2016 20: 45 New
            +2
            Quote: Altona
            so that in three years they put us in sanctions and restrictions

            The restrictions then affected money, strategic resources, and some individuals rather than consumer goods and other good things with GMOs, so sanctions are very distant to the WTO, unlike our answer to Chamberlain, who directly hit the population
        2. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 7 January 2016 16: 01 New
          +3
          Quote: iConst
          How many pokersil Russia to join the WTO?

          And do we really need this WTO? What benefits have we received from this WTO? Yes, no, especially in the light of their sanctions.
        3. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 7 January 2016 16: 46 New
          +1
          And all in vain! Now go out anyway ...
    4. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 7 January 2016 13: 24 New
      +3
      So let them not buy ... We will unload the Volgodonsk NPP, electricity is needed in the Crimea than beyond the hill ..
    5. combat66
      combat66 7 January 2016 13: 45 New
      +4
      Everything is kosher! laughing
      And about the purchase ... Well, they won’t go anywhere, mourn, cowards will wash and start buying. There is practically no excess energy.
      And under excess energy, investments come well and new industries open.
  3. serg1970
    serg1970 7 January 2016 13: 11 New
    +5
    create unfair competition in the electricity market, ”said Masiulis.
    Do not buy from THESE for writing, it is totalitarian from them, buy from me democratically tolerant. The benefits are obvious, yeah.

    Funny.
  4. cniza
    cniza 7 January 2016 13: 11 New
    +6
    How tired of you already ... sub-state is trying to establish itself at the expense of Russia.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 7 January 2016 13: 27 New
      +2
      But who are they tired of? Forget about their existence at all, remember the fable about the elephant and the pug!
  5. Lumumba
    Lumumba 7 January 2016 13: 12 New
    +3
    And again the voice from the side of the bucket.
  6. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 7 January 2016 13: 12 New
    +4
    All on bicycles! Shake your legs! The freedom-loving geyropeytsy do not need electricity from nuclear power plants! They will work out more on their pedal generators.
  7. seti
    seti 7 January 2016 13: 13 New
    19
    The phrase for "unfair competition" caused a smile. They destroyed their Soviet inheritance and now come out with poisonous saliva. But do not open your mouth to someone else’s mouth. This we have already passed. Do not want do not buy, but we still will not sell.
    We are doing the nuclear power plant in Kaliningrad first of all for ourselves, otherwise you are compassionate and we’ll cut off all your democratic energy, but ours is somehow wrong. Learning to count on yourself, thanks began to believe more in your "values" and decency
    1. Extraneous
      Extraneous 7 January 2016 14: 32 New
      +6
      Well, actually not only for myself. NPP for the Kaliningrad region is redundant. Of course, it is planned to sell electricity. In this case, Lithuania voices not so much its claims as the claims of European energy suppliers. Normal competition. It is no accident that phrases about ecology were heard. Everyone has long known that the "struggle for the environment" is an instrument of competition.
    2. justKyr
      justKyr 7 January 2016 16: 26 New
      0
      the electrician is “tolerant” of them)) ..... so it drives me to put it in folk slang ..... but I will not say anything))) ---- I don’t like it - don’t eat ...
  8. biserino
    biserino 7 January 2016 13: 14 New
    +1
    The Baltic turned out to be obvious that there was no sovereignty and politics of their own good.
  9. Tusv
    Tusv 7 January 2016 13: 14 New
    +2
    Well, the first power units of the Baltics do not relate, and the second ones you yourself will ask. Russia knows a lot about nuclear power plants
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 January 2016 13: 18 New
    +8
    Its closed. And now it's too late to replay. Atomic energy is the cleanest and has the least impact on the environment. Yes, and it is cheap. That Lithuanians and writhing with envy. Caved in under the geyropeytsev, closed Ignalina, in three gigabytes, 70% of the energy produced in Lithuania. Now they buy from greed - they are spiteful.
  11. Batia
    Batia 7 January 2016 13: 18 New
    +3
    Edits anhydride! Where did this call come from? Mania of greatness rolls over. They would turn on their brains, and it would be better if they lived in friendship with Russia.
    1. Altona
      Altona 7 January 2016 13: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Batia
      Edits anhydride! Where did this call come from? Mania of greatness rolls over.

      ----------------------
      The fly on the body of an elephant decided to remind herself. That she, too, is at the "top of the food chain." laughing
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 7 January 2016 13: 29 New
      0
      Anhydrite edrit !! Would include brains and sit quietly quietly ..
      1. 2С5
        2С5 7 January 2016 15: 15 New
        +2
        ... can a cat really care what the mouse squeaks about her? request
  12. GRAY
    GRAY 7 January 2016 13: 19 New
    +8
    Oh what is this?
    Inter RAO Lietuva is the largest Lithuanian independent electricity supplier, 51% of which is owned by Finnish RAO Nordic OY (a subsidiary of the Russian company Inter RAO UES), 49% is owned by Scaent Baltic, a Lithuanian investment company.

    And in the Kaliningrad region it was high time to build a nuclear power plant, otherwise our sworn friends would block the transit.
  13. Weyland
    Weyland 7 January 2016 13: 20 New
    +4
    Dishonest competition? You just have to prove that those, at whose request you shut down the Ignalina NPP, are agents of the Great and Terrible! laughing
  14. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 7 January 2016 13: 23 New
    +4
    It’s just they want to launch a candle factory, buyers are talking about.
  15. ded100
    ded100 7 January 2016 13: 23 New
    0
    Need will force on the knees to ask again, will they say they say to the poor !! laughing
  16. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 7 January 2016 13: 23 New
    +5
    They profiled their energy for the sake of a policy of obscurity ... now it's a shame for their stupidity ...
    And about security, it would be better to shut up ... the example of Fukushima is very bright ... but these are American and Western technologies ...
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 January 2016 13: 24 New
    +4
    Quote: Samaritan
    I was shocked for the New Year in Tallinn, when people opened champagne at 23.00 p.m. after the speech of the GDP and the chiming clock ...
    They already listened to their "president" at 00 o'clock in between, with comments like "yap" ...


    If you are not lying, I was very surprised and pleased.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 7 January 2016 14: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Ros 56

      If you are not lying, I was very surprised and pleased.

      No, it doesn’t lie !!! There, the most stubborn people began to understand for a long time that they are just meat for the country, and there are many of ours left.
  18. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 7 January 2016 13: 24 New
    +5
    Lithuania claims that the Russian Federation and Belarus “did not provide an assessment of the impact of future nuclear facilities on the environment”, and did not wish to “adhere to international requirements in the field of nuclear energy safety”
    Lord Lithuanians! Let me ask you the number of this "international requirement" when and by whom it was adopted, by whom it is signed and ratified. And so these are all empty words. Support a neighbor, buy in Ukraine or elsewhere, the choice is all of Europe.
  19. veksha50
    veksha50 7 January 2016 13: 24 New
    +5
    "The Russian Federation and Belarus" did not provide an assessment of the impact of future nuclear facilities on the environment ", and did not wish to" adhere to international requirements in the field of nuclear energy safety "" ...

    What a concern for the ecology and comfortable life of mankind !!!

    Greens, as always, are used in political adventures ...

    But how does Japan adhere to nuclear safety requirements ??? And in the USA there were some problems ... Vilnius somehow forgot about it ...

    PS They will not buy electricity - their ears will frostbite to spite their beloved mother-in-law ...
    But by and large - we ourselves, like the Belarusians, need it ...
    1. FIREMAN
      FIREMAN 7 January 2016 14: 51 New
      +3
      Lithuanian p.i.ts.tsts.e.r.asst.ty as always smarter than everyone on earth.
      Without the approval of the IAEA project, not a single nuclear power plant can be built; moreover, Russian reactors are one of the most reliable in the world.
      create unfair competition in the electricity market

      Everything is much simpler:
      At the beginning of June 2011 two American companies General Electric and Westinghouse announced that they will be investors of Visaginas NPP (Lithuania)

      Only for some reason they will not undertake any construction work, so far only in words ... because the risks are great.
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 7 January 2016 18: 25 New
        +5
        In early June 2011, two American companies General Electric and Westinghouse announced that they would be investors of the Visaginas NPP (Lithuania)


        You have outdated information. After that, the Japanese had already twisted their model model for six months, the delivery of the reactor to its destination, occupying 15% of the estimate. In general, these mega-projects of small facilities, small, because the planned nuclear power plant, did not cover 50% of Lithuania’s needs for electricity, but mega-projects, because estimates of such a truly cosmic scale, became the obsession of the Lithuanian government.
        1. FIREMAN
          FIREMAN 7 January 2016 18: 51 New
          +2
          Thank you, hi for clarification uv. Asadullah. I assumed something like that.
  20. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 January 2016 13: 24 New
    +5
    And when are these toadstools shut up !? You’ll find horseradish on the map without a magnifying glass - and there too! Psyavkoshmotniki under-riveted! laughing
  21. vobels
    vobels 7 January 2016 13: 25 New
    +3
    "..create unfair competition in the electricity market .." Yeah, they screamed about honesty, woke up! Miserable!
  22. Alfizik
    Alfizik 7 January 2016 13: 25 New
    +1
    Fools. They killed their station, and now they are furious with rage. Go take the power line from the USA to pull. Or maybe they should undertake to never, under any circumstances, buy electricity from us? Immediately come to their senses.
  23. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 January 2016 13: 28 New
    +5
    Only one question, but important - how will this clown distinguish atomic “pendants” from thermal or hydraulic?
  24. Geser
    Geser 7 January 2016 13: 28 New
    +5
    Interestingly, while the Ignalina NPP, which was built during the USSR by the “damned Soviet invaders” and supplied energy to the entire Baltic, still works for them? The West seemed to order the Chukhites to disconnect and dismantle this station. Now the Balts have hopes for an electric cable from Sweden along the bottom of the Baltic Sea, from where electricity will swing. Well, hysterical cries about dishonesty in the supply of our electricity and the construction of new nuclear power plants in Kaliningrad and Belarus have only one goal - to demonstrate their devotion to the West, maybe they will give a pie. Ukrainians and psheks do the same about Nord Stream-2.
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    2. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 7 January 2016 15: 11 New
      +2
      Interestingly, while the Ignalina NPP, which was built during the USSR by the “damned Soviet invaders” and supplied energy to the entire Baltic, still works for them?

      They covered up for a long time. Here and anger come now. One word is the Baltic Extinctions.
      1. Geser
        Geser 7 January 2016 18: 33 New
        +1
        Let them die out, leave for permanent residence in Europe and in general to the West. The Baltic states will go to us. Actually the Baltic lands are historically ours, it is time to return them.
    3. olegkrava
      olegkrava 7 January 2016 16: 41 New
      0
      No, the Psheks already want Nord Stream 2 to go through them.
  25. BOB044
    BOB044 7 January 2016 13: 31 New
    +1
    The head of the Ministry of Energy of Lithuania, Rokas Masiulis, called on neighboring countries - Latvia, Estonia, Poland and Finland - not to buy electricity that will be produced at nuclear power plants under construction in the Kaliningrad region of the Russian Federation and the Grodno region of Belarus, according to Glance referring to TASS.
    Narrow-minded, they are narrow-minded. One word mongrel yapping from under the fence.
  26. Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 7 January 2016 13: 31 New
    +3
    Somehow, the refusal to buy raw materials from Russia does not fit with the (theirs) concept that Russia’s place in the modern world is a donor of energy resources. Then, according to their logic, they want to take everything for nothing, that is, there should not be a country that sells, there should be a territory that gives away.
  27. askort154
    askort154 7 January 2016 13: 32 New
    +3
    European “girls” are standing along the East-West highway:
    England, Germany, France, Poland, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Georgia, Turkey, Ukraine are anxiously waiting for “Ivan” to appear again and to tear them off according to the tonsils.
  28. edeligor
    edeligor 7 January 2016 13: 34 New
    +4
    Labus and pshek, our eternal and "best" friends - a counter proposal - refuse to breathe, since 70% of the oxygen is produced by Siberian forests. Yes, moreover, these nuclear power plants are being built specifically so that the method of seed irradiation in the Baltic countries and Poland, the population mutates into normal homo sapiens.
  29. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 7 January 2016 13: 36 New
    +4
    Mr. Head of the Ministry of Energy of Lithuania, Rokas Masiulis, and personally, whatever he built, he personally produced at least KW ??? He closed the Ignalina nuclear power plant, now they are eating our electric energy themselves, which you buy on the secondary European market. COMPETITOR damn Eurobalopol.
    1. brasist
      brasist 7 January 2016 14: 20 New
      +1
      And why should he build, and if something that he always has fodder feed ...
  30. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 January 2016 13: 41 New
    +4
    Quote: veksha50
    PS They will not buy electricity - their ears will frostbite to spite their beloved mother-in-law ...


    And at the same time, eggs, so that no more such ides would be born ... in, and would not fool normal people.
  31. njvlin
    njvlin 7 January 2016 13: 45 New
    +2
    And rightly so, why bother with Baltic shit. You will buy Russian re-exported electricity in Germany and Poland three times a week. You will smell more and you will smell stronger
  32. Vovancheg
    Vovancheg 7 January 2016 13: 45 New
    +3
    "unfair competition"?
    and what is honest in their opinion? sanctions? to ruin the Russian economy?
    another pug ...
  33. combat66
    combat66 7 January 2016 13: 55 New
    13
    And all of us are quietly being built ... under Ostrovets the process is underway. Not without problems and creaks, but it’s coming. By the way, this atom is very necessary for Belarus, the first one will be.
    "Ostrovets NPP. New Year in the first power unit
    The height of the first power unit has already reached about 40 meters above ground level. The joker-builders at about this height installed a Christmas tree on one of the structures. "

    On the evening of December 24, the reactor vessel for the first power unit of the Belarusian nuclear power plant should arrive at the construction site.

    Читать полностью: http://naviny.by/rubrics/society/2015/12/24/ic_articles_116_190562/
  34. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 7 January 2016 13: 56 New
    +5
    IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TOPIC


    13: 39 06.01.16
    The first ever cyber attack on a power plant left Ukrainians without light. Kremlin is suspected

    According to the findings of European experts, in December several serious cyber attacks were committed against Ukrainian electricity suppliers. This was reported at the beginning of the week by Reuters.
    It is noted that hackers managed to launch malicious programs into the information networks of energy-transmitting enterprises, whose action can disrupt the operation of the entire system.
    The mentioned cybernetic diversion is associated with a power failure in the Ivano-Frankivsk region, which was observed on December 23 last year.
    The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) assigns responsibility for conducting cyber attacks to Russia. The Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine is conducting its investigation into the incidents.
    Particular attention to this incident is drawn to the fact that it may be the first case when a cyber attack led to a malfunction in the power supply systems.
    However, the incident is still being thoroughly investigated. Both authorities of Ukraine and European computer security experts are working on this.
    Victor Denisenko, Newsader

    NEWSADER ANALYTICAL COMMENT
    When we talk about information wars, we often mean a propaganda war (another similar term is psychological warfare). At the same time, we often forget that when the phenomenon of information warfare began to be actively studied in the American scientific community at the beginning and middle of the 90 of the last century, the definition of this phenomenon was quite multifaceted.
    It was in the United States, modeling the information wars of the future, that they came to the conclusion that this would be a complex phenomenon. An example of such modeling back in 1995 in his monograph was described by Martin Libiki. According to him, one of the components of an information war will be a cyber war, the purpose of which will be to attack and disable the information structure (networks) of the enemy. Today we can safely say that scientific fantasies of twenty years ago have become a reality.
    This is not the first year that cyber security experts have said that cyber attacks bring real losses. Moreover, we are already accustomed to cyberattacks as a modern reality. True, up to this point, this concept basically meant an attack on Internet sites, their hacking and / or destruction.
    Today, cyber attacks are moving to a new level. Their consequences are no longer limited to the virtual environment. As we see, the attack against the information infrastructure of Ukrainian energy transmission enterprises turned into real interruptions in the supply of electricity.
    By the way, the SBU's suspicions about Russia are quite natural. It is this country that is an active developer of the principles of information warfare (including the cybernetic component). Moreover, the attack on the Ukrainian electricity grid ideologically correlates with the cessation of electricity supplies by the Ukrainian side to the occupied Crimea.
    Newsader Analysis Department
    1. ydjin
      ydjin 7 January 2016 14: 40 New
      +7
      [quote = avg-mgn]IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TOPIC


      13: 39 06.01.16
      The first ever cyber attack on a power plant left Ukrainians without light. The Kremlin is suspected.

      Strange !? How can an attack be made on closed strategic servers? Or are there operators in network games polled without exception? Affiget! wassat
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 8 January 2016 03: 27 New
        +2
        Exactly, exactly. Performed work at one enterprise, so there on the computer no Internet, no drives, no USB-connectors. I went nuts, but the people work.
        1. i80186
          i80186 8 January 2016 07: 09 New
          0
          Quote: LÄRZ
          Exactly, exactly. Performed work at one enterprise, so there on the computer no Internet, no drives, no USB-connectors. I went nuts, but the people work.

          Tell the staff of centrifuges at the uranium enrichment plant in Iran. For example, in each PLC, a hole for USB, well, or for Profibus, is by definition. smile
      2. i80186
        i80186 8 January 2016 07: 05 New
        0
        Quote: ydjin
        Strange !? How can an attack be made on closed strategic servers? Or are there operators in network games polled without exception?

        One of the hardest computer viruses ever found was aimed at undermining civilian infrastructure in Iran. The malware turned out to be so complex that the power of the whole state should have been behind its development, BBC experts say.
        The self-replicating virus Stuxnet is aimed at objects not of the virtual, but of the real world, such as power plants, water stations and industrial facilities. The virus was first detected in June by a Belarusian company, since then it has been thoroughly investigated. But perhaps it has been circulating since 2009. According to the British newspaper The Daily Mail, it has already hit about 45 thousand networks in various countries of the world.
        Unlike most other viruses, Stuxnet is designed to infect precisely those computer systems that are not connected to the Internet for security reasons. It is transferred using USB electronic keys used to transfer files from one computer to another.

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
        Simens, by the way, had a hand in hand. So it’s possible, and how. But that's why they immediately attacked us. We definitely did not launch anything to Iran. They say the handiwork of Israel. smile
  35. Izotovp
    Izotovp 7 January 2016 13: 57 New
    +2
    Not even funny. And in what language is the report to them? In Lithuanian? So in it there are no such words to translate the report into them. Only if in English or in Russian.
  36. family
    family tree 7 January 2016 13: 58 New
    +3
    Wow, damn it what And cho, on every electricity there is a nameplate, at which power plant is it produced? belay
  37. Obolensky
    Obolensky 7 January 2016 14: 00 New
    +2
    And who then buy electricity? Does he personally single out? Or say where to get? It was they from the USA who learned to bark at every rustle. So they train. You can simply ignore them. Let them read on.
  38. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 7 January 2016 14: 02 New
    12
    Lithuania without EU subsidies will simply die. Therefore, this is the EU's most evil and loyal mongrel.
    1. Sausuolis
      Sausuolis 7 January 2016 15: 02 New
      -26
      Have you graduated from such courses or special courses?
      1. edeligor
        edeligor 7 January 2016 16: 57 New
        14
        Quote: Sausuolis
        Have you graduated from such courses or special courses?

        Sorry, climbed! Special courses do not need to finish. Just prove or tell us about competitive Lithuanian products. No way? So there is nothing to measure aggregates. Balts, Psheks and Ukrainians who joined them, your most bought product in the world is RUSSOPHOBIA. Well, you only know how to spoil a country that has given more than all your independent rulers for all time. MY YOU FI !!!!
        1. c3r
          c3r 8 January 2016 21: 07 New
          +1
          But what about sprats? They are strategic Baltic goods! Only nobody needs a fuck!
  39. Stoler
    Stoler 7 January 2016 14: 03 New
    +5
    Oh, the Baltic states yelped again. So Spring is coming! laughing
  40. anfil
    anfil 7 January 2016 14: 09 New
    +3
    Kakly, for the most “hated and vile” Russian gas, is ready to pump all Euro-brats, but if only this “Russian gas” flows through Kuevland, and they will also spit on wires but buy this non-ecological stream of charged particles.
  41. v1tz
    v1tz 7 January 2016 14: 13 New
    +1
    It seems that here (in the sense of Vilns) it could not do without evil spirits, or it smacks of shiza.
  42. Dimy4
    Dimy4 7 January 2016 14: 17 New
    +3
    Go European brothers to dried manure cakes and drown your thermal power plants with them!
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 8 January 2016 18: 17 New
      0
      So manure also needs to be taken somewhere? They will not have so many cows.
  43. olf
    olf 7 January 2016 14: 18 New
    +2
    Well, let them prepare a splinter. Damn, well, as such, they fall into power.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 8 January 2016 18: 19 New
      0
      For money and Russophobia. In fact, they may not think so, but live with wolves, howl like a wolf.
  44. TOR2
    TOR2 7 January 2016 14: 20 New
    +2
    Rokas Masiulis called on neighboring countries - Latvia, Estonia, Poland and Finland - not to buy electricity that will be produced at nuclear power plants under construction in the Kaliningrad region of the Russian Federation and the Grodno region of Belarus,

    The mongrel generator started ...
  45. platon4387
    platon4387 7 January 2016 14: 25 New
    +1
    Only the words LAVROVA.DEB ,,,, BL ,,,, come to mind
  46. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 January 2016 14: 28 New
    +3
    before undermining it would not be bad to saturate the Kaliningrad region itself with electricity, otherwise in the countryside a limit of 3 kilos per household
  47. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 7 January 2016 14: 30 New
    +2
    Good memories from communicating with the Lithuanian people remained. But, alas, as they say, the family is not without goats!
  48. V.ic
    V.ic 7 January 2016 14: 32 New
    +3
    Would they transfer their energy supply to standard = 127 V and 60 Hz, lay the transatlantic cable to the United States and get ideologically correct energy according to the US rates ... What is stopping them? Probably the hand of GDP again!
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 7 January 2016 17: 55 New
      +1
      More precisely, then 110 B. And steam heating (about 100 deg.), Instead of water. You won’t touch the pipes.
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 8 January 2016 03: 46 New
        +2
        And I wonder how they are going to unhook their electric networks from our (still Soviet!) Unified power system and synchronize it with the European one? And how much will it all cost? This is not a battery rearrangement on the machine.
      2. V.ic
        V.ic 8 January 2016 17: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Stock Officer
        And steam heating (about 100 degrees.), Instead of water. You won’t touch the pipes.

        Well, it’s necessary to do the double-circuit boilers, otherwise the efficiency will not be enough and all the steam in the “whistle” will go away. It is more profitable for them not to go to the toilet in a separate potbelly stove in each room and to the toilet "in a hard way", but to procure a dung for future use.
  49. sw6513
    sw6513 7 January 2016 14: 37 New
    +1
    Lithuania is ridiculous even to imagine that no one will hear such a powerful country
  50. jovanni
    jovanni 7 January 2016 14: 38 New
    +2
    Lithuania decided, it seems, to do business on torches and candles ...
    1. wandlitz
      wandlitz 7 January 2016 15: 47 New
      +1
      Putin remembers the Germans hinted that in the absence of a nuclear power plant, the prohibition of thermal power plants on coal and the absence of gas, wood needs to be heated. And he proposed to get them from us in Siberia.
      But not yet mined. Well, only after the prisoners are sent there.