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Morbid awareness: Europe regrets sanctions

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Morbid awareness: Europe regrets sanctions



Let's try to summarize the "sanctions" stories of the past 2015 year. As everyone knows, Europe and America extended the sanctions against Russia for another six months - until July 31 2016. But is the opinion in the European Union unambiguous regarding the decision taken to continue the course of geopolitical pressure to the detriment of its own economic interests?

It is no secret that the reaction to the sectoral restrictions imposed on Russia in the world and, in particular, in Europe was, say, far from unequivocally positive. Rallies, marches, protests, boycotts that accompanied this decision - this is confirmed. On the multi-billion dollar financial losses on both sides and can not speak. However, the Russian side has already partially managed to recover, but the same cannot be said about the EU in any way.

Thus, the head of the "Eastern Committee" of the German economy, Eckhard Cordes, the outgoing, betrayed the toughest criticism actions taken by European politicians. Previously, the economist has repeatedly stated the need for the manifestation of real political will in the direction of rapprochement with the Russian Federation.

Europe and Russia are natural partners in all plans, and therefore, according to the economist, any manipulation associated with any attempts to fence Russia is absolutely counterproductive. And the reason, as is known, officially announced as the reason for the extension of restrictive measures - sounds extremely unconvincing. To tell that points of contact For participants in all sorts of relationships, there is much more than disagreement - to say nothing.

“We are interested in their [sanctions] withdraw. Russia and the EU as important economic partners should strive to normalize relations, ”the EU ambassador to Russia Vygaudas Ušackas noted. According to the head of the representative office, these relations are most important for Europe. He also mentioned that 5% of all investments in the investment plan go (well, or went, he did not specify) from the EU. However, it is worth noting that in terms of trade relations there has never been any disagreement.

There is interest in restoring relations, on the part of business (of any caliber, from transnational corporations to private farmers), on the part of politicians, and even European economists are actually sounding the alarm, but nothing. But there is no will. Will it appear? The question is open.

So, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov noted that in the EU, in principle, consider confrontation with the Russian Federation as a mistake in connection with the situation in Ukraine (although there is no conflict in Europe, there is only following the externally given American course). You can talk about the latter endlessly. From the logical inconsistencies can "go to the roof," and any sane person will pass by, twisting his finger to his temple.

Interested, want to withdraw, want to cooperate (and, moreover, cooperate on most issues), but do not want to reflect and untie a tangle of inconsistencies. Strange people, is not it? But we will not criticize anyone, after all the holidays. Just trust is not iron, it is crumbling, although it has been built over the years. And in general, if you suddenly allow the option that Russia will give up and give in to all the pressure that was exerted on her from the outside, then who would suddenly like an isolated Russia? No one. In all respects, in all respects.

But the task after all is that the EU (as it turned out lately - the geopolitical block) is completely different. To achieve the goal that was put before the sanctions, it is impossible a priori. Crimea, even de-energized for a while и с thief administrationwill not return to Ukraine. And what? In a senseless war (and far from being European) all means are good? At the cost of sacrifices, at the cost of losing all connections? For what? The last question is rhetorical.

Of course, maybe everything will return to its own place, perhaps meaningless geopolitical ties will eventually lose to common sense and mutually beneficial, promising relations. But so far we have what we have - sanctions until the end of July, a retaliatory embargo, “black” lists and all that is connected with all this. On the other hand, the existing prospects for the growth of our own economy, the rise of domestic production, the establishment of really necessary relations - perhaps, we see these sanctions.

Will they be extended afterwards (such as foretells the head of RUSNANO, Chubais), or, on the part of Europe, everything limited to the next six monthswill decide the time. Well, or the one who really rules the ball in Europe. But one thing is for sure: the former relations of Russia with the EU will never be. Only business, gentlemen, too often had to burn for lies and betrayal.
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  1. Altona
    Altona 6 January 2016 18: 01 New
    53
    Our countersanctions were simply junk. They are already fucked by Arabs in the streets, and we are almond with this shoe.
    1. svp67
      svp67 6 January 2016 18: 08 New
      22
      Quote: Altona
      They are already fucked by Arabs in the streets, and we are almond with this shoe.

      No, we are just waiting for them to be shot there in full form, then we will get to Paris again.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 6 January 2016 18: 17 New
        132
        Quote: svp67
        then we will reach Paris again.

        Yes, he fell to hell with us, this Paris. request What do we need there?
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 January 2016 18: 20 New
          10
          Quote: Vladimirets
          What do we need there?

          Well, do not tell me what our ancestors found there ...
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 6 January 2016 18: 31 New
            47
            Quote: svp67
            Well, our ancestors found there ...

            Oh, Sergey, we have this stuff in bulk. laughing
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 6 January 2016 18: 40 New
              40
              So, the head of the "Eastern Committee" of the German economy Eckhard Cordes, who is leaving his post, has severely criticized the actions carried out by European politicians.

              But what is it, as soon as he is going to leave his post, so immediately "the most severe critic" of European politics!
              Where have you been before, Mr. Cordes, when did you impose these sanctions?
              1. Vladimirets
                Vladimirets 6 January 2016 18: 49 New
                21
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                de you used to be, Mr. Cordes, when did you impose these sanctions?

                Sat on a salary. yes
              2. 34 region
                34 region 6 January 2016 19: 52 New
                34
                When sanctions were imposed, he was at work. And having croaked, he could lose a piece of cheese. Now there is no cheese, you can croak. Although he does not make decisions. Not for nothing that active partners at the end of the war opened a second front. Having created their zone of occupation, they planted their helmsmen. And they will not allow the union of the economies of the EU and Russia. Otherwise, it will be a very large beast threatening the life of the striped feathered. Here we are. Whether we wanted to or not, Gorbachev did so. And there are a lot of such Gorbachevs (in the EU). And each has its own plot. Such a modern feudalism. It seems that he is the master of his own, but controlled by the authorities from above. And you say market and competition. Here it is the market, and here it is the competition. Strict vertical power. And with those who are against the government ... you yourself know.
                1. ty60
                  ty60 7 January 2016 02: 37 New
                  0
                  Jewish backstage. It is present everywhere. For the sake of your gesheft you will find many more things in common. A strong lobby and agreed in different countries. We are so profitable, therefore, we are in conflict. Financial injections are needed on both sides.
                2. captain
                  captain 7 January 2016 11: 48 New
                  +2
                  Europe may regret it, but it's worth looking at what the monetary equivalent we borrow in trade with the EU, but we are not yet very sweet, the price tags in the store are growing and quite noticeably (I don't use jamon and other overseas gingerbread). Our leaders spanked the golden period for the start of economic recovery (I'm talking about the years of expensive oil and gas), and now it turns out that even milk is becoming more expensive because all the packaging is imported. And so in many industries. The salaries of the majority of the population have not increased, while incomes are falling. Of course, the people will tolerate, but everyone, including our "elite", must endure. This may end up with ordinary people.
              3. Igor F.
                Igor F. 7 January 2016 07: 11 New
                0
                So I also think .. When they are sitting on a paycheck at the expense of taxpayers, they are silent in a rag and agree with everything .. How then ... What if they lose their salaries, if you say something wrong? And without five minutes, retirees can blurt out anything .. Anyway, they’ll lose the post .. He has nothing to lose! lol
            2. Dry_T-50
              Dry_T-50 6 January 2016 19: 38 New
              +5
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Quote: svp67
              Well, our ancestors found there ...

              Oh, Sergey, we have this stuff in bulk. laughing

              This good, the more the better, I think.
              PS See, Turkish roots affect laughing
              1. Vladimirets
                Vladimirets 6 January 2016 19: 52 New
                +3
                Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
                This good, the more the better, I think.

                Damn, Ilya, I won’t be able to do so much. crying
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 7 January 2016 09: 34 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Vladimirets
                  Damn, Ilya, I won’t be able to do so much.

                  Grandfather came to see a doctor: - What are you complaining about? - On the heart. One fit - fine. On the other - I begin to choke. On the third - I can’t ... - Well, you, dad, a hero! I’m 30 years younger than you, but I’m not enough for one ... - What are you talking about, doctor? - About women. - And I - about the steps ... laughing
            3. velikoros-xnumx
              velikoros-xnumx 6 January 2016 20: 28 New
              +8
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Quote: svp67
              Well, our ancestors found there ...

              Oh, Sergey, we have this stuff in bulk. laughing

              Yes, I think it’s better for us. wink
            4. Kos_kalinki9
              Kos_kalinki9 6 January 2016 20: 34 New
              57
              I don't know what to say about this Paris. As I. Ehrenburg said - "See Paris and die" I don't know, I don't know ....
              1. ty60
                ty60 7 January 2016 02: 43 New
                -1
                Then he went through Berdichev and Zhmerinka, drank a vodka in Zhytomyr. Widow Klitschko in Ivano-Frankivsk. There he again fraternized with psheks. The Galician metropolitanate left to the panamas.
            5. Oleg14774
              Oleg14774 6 January 2016 20: 43 New
              +9
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Oh, Sergey, we have this stuff in bulk.

              Our "good" is better!
            6. lukke
              lukke 6 January 2016 21: 11 New
              10
              Oh, Sergey, we have this stuff in bulk.
              a little bit wrong - ours are much prettier! Yes, and I disdain, after the Arabs ...
            7. ty60
              ty60 7 January 2016 02: 31 New
              0
              Much closer in the country of dill.
          2. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 6 January 2016 18: 41 New
            10
            and how many gonorrhea and luez were brought !!! crying what a blessing! fool
            1. Sharapov
              Sharapov 6 January 2016 20: 16 New
              17
              Quote: Viktor Demchenko
              how many gonorrhea and luez brought !!! crying what happiness! fool

              And can I, apologize, advise you to discuss this problem at the venereological forum?
              1. Asadullah
                Asadullah 6 January 2016 21: 37 New
                +9
                And can I, apologize, advise you to discuss this problem at the venereological forum?


                Alas, unfortunately, not only at the venereological forum. It just so happens when there is nothing to say on the topic, we say anything.

                But the topic is really serious. Sanctions, falling oil prices, the depreciation of the ruble, the war in Ukraine, the war in Syria, the media war against the Russian Federation, and every little thing is the contents of one chest. Or rather, the details of one mechanism that spins the gears buzzes, and at one moment someone should fall out of the window. The West is sure that this will be someone, Putin. For the mechanism and was started precisely for this purpose. A set of measures, which, according to Western wiseacres should repeat the precedent of the collapse of the USSR. And sanctions are by no means a separate part of this mechanism, not even a discrete element, it is one of the important gears. That is why it is foolish to expect the abolition of sanctions, they can not stop separately from the whole mechanism. From that, you have to wait for the main figure, which will fall out of the window. In the meantime, from this mechanism the peppy voices of European politicians recorded on tape, arrogant American remarks, and perplexing Russian voices are heard. Waiting for. The fact that it will not be Putin, I am sure, because the concept of precedent itself is not true in the root, it was voiced exclusively by tickling a sense of self-worth, interpreting as the owner liked. The Western world today reminds me of the times of Khrushchev.
                1. zao74
                  zao74 7 January 2016 02: 11 New
                  0
                  and at one moment someone should fall out of the window.
                  All the "junk" from us fell off in the early nineties ...
          3. Mikhalych 70
            Mikhalych 70 6 January 2016 19: 45 New
            +9
            If I am not mistaken, from the course of Soviet history, the officers picked up the "bacilli of freedom and democracy" in Paris. And then what happened ... No, this Paris.
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 7 January 2016 09: 39 New
              0
              If only the "bacillus of freedom and democracy" laughing
          4. Persistent
            Persistent 6 January 2016 20: 56 New
            +7
            Well, do not tell me what our ancestors found there ..

            Not so much they found how much they "picked up" from unwashed women and brought them to Russia ...
          5. Bochik
            Bochik 6 January 2016 22: 35 New
            +1
            Quote: svp67

            Well, do not tell me what our ancestors found there ...

            Allied commitments, be they wrong!
          6. Prisoner
            Prisoner 7 January 2016 09: 35 New
            0
            Well yes. They found funny diseases. Home affairs to hell, not figs on the women spoiled by the Arabs to run. laughing
        2. Altona
          Altona 6 January 2016 18: 22 New
          11
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Yes, he fell to hell with us, this Paris.

          ---------------------------
          This is exactly where Algerian and Moroccan enclaves are created 300-500 meters from Les Champs Elysees ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 6 January 2016 18: 24 New
            +6
            Quote: Altona
            This is exactly where Algerian and Moroccan enclaves are created 300-500 meters from Les Champs Elysees ...

            and it passed ...
        3. shooter18
          shooter18 6 January 2016 18: 26 New
          +8
          Quote: svp67
          then we will reach Paris again.
          Yes, he fell to hell with us, this Paris. request What do we need there?

          How the hell is that? Our monuments destroyed! let's go restore and it's time to build new ones!))
        4. Ros 56
          Ros 56 6 January 2016 18: 28 New
          20
          Today is my laughter day. Like what, we’ll hand over the Eiffel Tower for scrap.
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 6 January 2016 18: 34 New
            +7
            Come on, Count Vorontsov sold his estate in order to pay the card debts of his hussars ...
          2. HAM
            HAM 6 January 2016 19: 18 New
            +9
            We do not have time to pass, Khokhlov visa canceled (!!!!!! crying ), they immediately capitalize all the scrap!
            1. ALEA IACTA EST
              ALEA IACTA EST 6 January 2016 19: 25 New
              +6
              Quote: HAM
              We do not have time to pass, Khokhlov visa canceled (!!!!!! crying ), they immediately capitalize all the scrap!

              Unless the Libyans and Syrians do it before them. laughing
              1. tol100v
                tol100v 6 January 2016 19: 44 New
                +3
                Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
                ), they immediately capitalize all the scrap!
                Unless the Libyans and Syrians do it before them.

                They are not that all the scrap metal is recorded, THEY are supposedly "refugees" are recording ALL Old Europe according to the "Swedish" scenario with "German" pedantry! Only the sound range will be in oriental languages!
            2. ver_
              ver_ 6 January 2016 19: 35 New
              +1
              ... they have nowhere to go - the plants have already given the oak to the oak ..- Toko tepericha for metal ..
          3. ver_
            ver_ 6 January 2016 19: 20 New
            +1
            ... neither - we will drive Europe to South Africa to sunbathe and take a selfie against the background of red sands ...
            1. Masya masya
              Masya masya 6 January 2016 19: 32 New
              +4
              Quote: ver_
              ... neither - we will drive Europe to South Africa to sunbathe and take a selfie against the background of red sands ...

              So Africa has already come to them ...
              1. ver_
                ver_ 6 January 2016 19: 38 New
                +3
                ... then neighbor Africa came, and they should get on ...
          4. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 6 January 2016 19: 46 New
            10
            Quote: Ros 56
            We’ll hand over the Eiffel Tower for scrap.

            What for? There muslims without us will find how to use it. A minaret, for example, is a good one ...
          5. Altona
            Altona 6 January 2016 19: 55 New
            +7
            Quote: Ros 56
            Today is my laughter day. Like what, we’ll hand over the Eiffel Tower for scrap.

            ---------------------
            What for? We are not barbarians. We will again install on it the radio reconnaissance devices as was originally conceived by the creator. She was a radio tower.
          6. alone
            alone 6 January 2016 20: 42 New
            +3
            Quote: Ros 56
            Today is my laughter day. Like what, we’ll hand over the Eiffel Tower for scrap.

            I willingly believe))) And in addition to putting into scrap metal, have you tried to create something?)))))
          7. Igor F.
            Igor F. 7 January 2016 07: 25 New
            0
            Uhhh ... Maybe not, huh? The Eiffel Tower is an architectural monument, a lure for tourists, an object under the auspices of UNESCO ..
        5. Awaz
          Awaz 6 January 2016 18: 41 New
          +9
          It’s true, what for we go to Paris, this time it is necessary to London, that would crush the source of all the world's ills in his nest completely
          1. ver_
            ver_ 6 January 2016 19: 24 New
            +3
            ... you need to send the Norwegians on boats - let them finish what their ancestors did not finish ..
            1. Awaz
              Awaz 6 January 2016 19: 31 New
              +2
              the Varangians are no longer the same ... Look, all the fagots and homosexuals ... Although they say earlier they didn’t particularly understand the gender of partners
              1. ver_
                ver_ 6 January 2016 19: 40 New
                +1
                ... Duc - wedge a wedge with a wedge ..
              2. ver_
                ver_ 6 January 2016 20: 07 New
                +5
                ... they say the patriarch announced a special set to the newly created holy inquisition for work abroad, all apostates, including homosexuals and the wrong extrasensors and broadcasters at the stake, will be raised to help the Vatican - he completely stopped catching mice ... any the evil spawned so much that they began to hesitate in hell about whether they were in the right place ...
              3. Weyland
                Weyland 6 January 2016 21: 09 New
                +2
                Quote: AwaZ
                Although they say before they especially did not understand the gender of partners


                No, in the days of the Vikings, to name someone "argr" with 100% probability meant an invitation to the holmgang!
              4. cheap trick
                cheap trick 6 January 2016 21: 13 New
                +3
                but but but! we don’t need any Norwegians here! enough drunk Irish!
        6. Old Schweik
          Old Schweik 6 January 2016 18: 46 New
          +4
          In the cellars of the wine show off, but the French touch!
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 6 January 2016 19: 50 New
            +5
            Quote: Old Schweik
            In the cellars of the wine show off, but the French touch!

            Would you all be French, but your own?
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 6 January 2016 20: 08 New
              +5
              Quote: Masya Masya
              Would you all be French, but your own?

              I say, work is not an edge, and there is nothing to look at. smile
            2. svp67
              svp67 6 January 2016 20: 10 New
              +6
              Quote: Masya Masya
              Would you all be French, but your own?

              Own is a holy thing. And with the French women, it’s said, PURPOSE ...
              1. kil 31
                kil 31 6 January 2016 20: 46 New
                +4
                Quote: svp67
                Quote: Masya Masya
                Would you all be French, but your own?

                Own is a holy thing. And with the French women, it’s said, PURPOSE ...

                The custodians calculated that during the occupation of 2 world France, every 5 children are from a German officer. We were not counted in the 19th century. Knowing yourself and ours, after the right grams, there probably every 2 nd one.
          2. cheap trick
            cheap trick 6 January 2016 21: 14 New
            +7
            Have you seen French women? well, worse than nuclear war! however like our mrs!
            1. ALEA IACTA EST
              ALEA IACTA EST 6 January 2016 21: 22 New
              14
              Quote: cheap trick
              Have you seen French women? well, worse than nuclear war! however like our mrs!
              1. Igor F.
                Igor F. 7 January 2016 07: 34 New
                +1
                Really! Like heaven and earth! Our prosecutor of Crimea is a beauty queen in comparison with this .. I don’t even remember how to call her .. laughing Friends! Do not tell me?
            2. kil 31
              kil 31 6 January 2016 21: 32 New
              +4
              Quote: cheap trick
              Have you seen French women? well, worse than nuclear war! however like our mrs!

              I know what grams are converted into liters. Merry Christmas to all. hi drinks
          3. Igor F.
            Igor F. 7 January 2016 07: 30 New
            +1
            I saw these French women .. So-so, in my opinion .. Russian girls are much more beautiful compared to them!
        7. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 6 January 2016 20: 26 New
          13
          In principle, everything is written correctly. But this is a view from the side. Gentlemen from the EU will never go against the United States. So all this is empty talk.
          But regarding the administration of Crimea, allegedly stealing, I strongly disagree. Moreover, it is mentioned casually, as a well-known fact. Is it so?
          Another thing is devoted to publicity - "lack of professionalism in the distribution of budgetary funds." Well, how to understand Mr Medvedev and his government in their dissatisfaction with the Crimean authorities? No cuts and kickbacks? Doesn't oversubmit anything?
          It's just that the Crimean administration is now quite independent, it has not yet been tied up with such "distributions", there is no compromising evidence, it is poorly managed. Anyone who lived in the USSR and learned to read between the lines understands this.
        8. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 6 January 2016 22: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: svp67
          then we will reach Paris again.
          Yes, he fell to hell with us, this Paris. What do we need there?


          We ALREADY have millions of that way 40 people on the doorstep, the youngest full pants have once again been imposed, so that they can get to Poland in bulk. No, in Russia people will never live richly ... It is always with dignity, but you will have to wait a while again with wealth.
        9. NIKNN
          NIKNN 6 January 2016 22: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: svp67
          then we will reach Paris again.

          Yes, he fell to hell with us, this Paris. request What do we need there?


          I think Paris will have to move to Siberia .... wink
        10. Oleg Lavrov
          Oleg Lavrov 7 January 2016 19: 32 New
          0
          We’ll drown the Mistrals ourselves ... ours, what we want is what we do !! ))) am
      2. Altona
        Altona 6 January 2016 18: 19 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        No, we are just waiting for them to be shot there in full form, then we will get to Paris again.

        ------------------------
        I don’t know about this, most likely they were afraid to lose TEBS (ABS) blocks for cars, well, and a number of products of "high" 16-bit technologies ...
      3. meriem1
        meriem1 6 January 2016 18: 24 New
        26
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Altona
        They are already fucked by Arabs in the streets, and we are almond with this shoe.

        No, we are just waiting for them to be shot there in full form, then we will get to Paris again.


        And it is NECESSARY ??????? How many times to the city of Paris? Take at least those that are closer. That the Zaporozhye Cossacks brought the petition to the Tsarina, that the Georgians wrote, "Take to Russia now and forever!" That some were Poles, that others were slaughtered by Turks like pigs ... Russians smile wryly at the traitors and shake their heads wearily. DO WE NEED IT? What is there to protect? Lying? Gomoshachi.chinu? Double standards? Lizoblyudstvo? No ... let yourself.
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 January 2016 18: 32 New
          +5
          Quote: meriem1
          And it is NECESSARY ??????? How many times to the city of Paris? Take at least those that are closer. That the Zaporozhye Cossacks brought the petition to the Tsarina, that the Georgians wrote, "Take to Russia now and forever!" That some were Poles, that others were slaughtered by Turks like pigs ... Russians smile wryly at the traitors and shake their heads wearily. DO WE NEED IT? What is there to protect? Lying? Gomoshachi.chinu? Double standards? Lizoblyudstvo? No ... let yourself.

          And simply, it will be ventilated, so that the whole "Lies ... Gomosyatina ... With their standards and sycophancy, blew out, but across the ocean. Accept America's new emigrants, ideologically close."
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 6 January 2016 18: 44 New
            +3
            Quote: svp67
            And just aired

            Only if aired, but on the hunt. winked One acquaintance, Uncle Vasya Kabanov (now deceased, the Kingdom of Heaven), fought in the Second World War on the Dnieper Flotilla. They took some town near the river Spree, there is a wine cellar. All told, tried, but I, young, did not drink. But he took a few bottles of vinyl and buried in a conspicuous place. So now I had a thought, uncle Vasya to dig out a treasure, and a noticeable place - a tall oak. laughing
            1. svp67
              svp67 6 January 2016 18: 51 New
              +2
              Quote: Vladimirets
              and a conspicuous place is a tall oak.

              Yes, garbage, how much that Spree, we must find ...
              1. tol100v
                tol100v 6 January 2016 19: 48 New
                +4
                Quote: svp67
                Yes, garbage, how much that Spree, we must find ...

                Not these, so others! There are many wine cellars!
                1. svp67
                  svp67 6 January 2016 20: 29 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Tol100v
                  Not these, so others! There are many wine cellars!

                  It may not be small, but it’s the grandfather’s nest egg ...
                  1. Vladimirets
                    Vladimirets 6 January 2016 20: 54 New
                    +2
                    Quote: svp67
                    grandfather stash ...

                    When we drank on the Navy’s day, and Uncle Vasya lifted a pile until his very last day, every time he recalled this incident when he didn’t drink and buried wine. Could someone at this moment tell the old man that we have already heard this or doubt the veracity of this story?
            2. ALEA IACTA EST
              ALEA IACTA EST 6 January 2016 19: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: Vladimirets
              So now I had a thought, uncle Vasya to dig out a treasure, and a noticeable place - a tall oak.

              Unless, of course, the guys from the GSVG / comrades from the NNA did not get ahead of you ... recourse
              1. svp67
                svp67 6 January 2016 20: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
                Unless, of course, the guys from the GSVG ... you did not get ahead ...
                What will happen, well, very swine, on their part.
        2. Altona
          Altona 6 January 2016 20: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: meriem1
          And it is NECESSARY ??????? Once again to the city of Paris?

          ------------------
          In that context, I meant the trade war of the West with us, and not the "liberation European campaign" a la Marshal Zhukov or Emperor Alexander I ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 6 January 2016 21: 07 New
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            In that context, I meant the trade war of the West with us, and not the "liberation European campaign" a la Marshal Zhukov or Emperor Alexander I ...

            Late, the magic word "WAR" is spoken, but we don’t read newspapers ...
            And if the captain of the Russian army Karl Friedrich Jerome Baron von Munchausen was able to defeat England alone, then together we can do a lot ...
      4. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST 6 January 2016 18: 54 New
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        we will get to Paris again.

        Our great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers were already there. what
        I propose to visit one rat in Constantinople ... winked
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 6 January 2016 19: 03 New
          +3
          Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
          I propose to visit one rat in Constantinople ...

          Nail shield? Or T-90 ...
          1. ALEA IACTA EST
            ALEA IACTA EST 6 January 2016 19: 04 New
            +6
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Nail shield? Or T-90 ...

            Put the armature on a pedestal. smile
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          3. svp67
            svp67 6 January 2016 19: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Nail shield? Or T-90 ...

            Erdogan, on the keel of our Su24
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 6 January 2016 19: 24 New
              +3
              Quote: svp67
              on the keel of our Su24

              No, the aerodynamics are bad. No.
              1. svp67
                svp67 6 January 2016 19: 26 New
                +2
                Quote: Vladimirets
                No, the aerodynamics are bad.

                I think "dry" for the sake of this will try and tolerate all the difficulties of overcoming gravity. That others would not be familiar.
        2. svp67
          svp67 6 January 2016 19: 03 New
          +4
          Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
          Our great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers were already there.

          For our great-greats and greats (to the tenth degree)
          Grandfathers the same road was famous.
          Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
          I propose to visit one rat in Constantinople ...

          Yes, without any problems, just first you need to admire the beauty from Mount Gibraltar, and deploy a couple of anti-ship missile divisions there, well, what if the "emigrants" from America would not flood back unexpectedly ...
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      6. Starik72
        Starik72 6 January 2016 19: 35 New
        +3
        svp67. But what shall we do in that Paris, if our home does not have enough of our affairs?
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 January 2016 19: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Starik72
          But what shall we do in that Paris, if our home does not have enough of our affairs?

          Well I said: "get some air", take a break from righteous deeds. Well, the Russians have such a tradition to save Europe once a century. I do not think that we should violate it, since experience says that this violation is even more "sideways for us"
      7. sufix
        sufix 6 January 2016 20: 57 New
        +2
        It seems that give the Marshals a hand and even tomorrow to Paris or there Berlin will run in front of the train. Sneak, kick, etc. - is this really what normal people may want. Do you really want a war or what? Warriors
        1. ALEA IACTA EST
          ALEA IACTA EST 6 January 2016 21: 20 New
          +3
          Quote: sufix
          Do you really want a war or what? Warriors

          We are peaceful people ... And an armored train - just in case. wink
        2. svp67
          svp67 6 January 2016 21: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: sufix
          Do you really want a war or what? Warriors

          Dear, I do not know about you, but we have a GREAT and LIGHT HOLIDAY in the yard. And the fact that we are here, a bit of a swagger, so forgive us good people. But do not forget that any good simply must be in the modern world with fists.
          Merry Christmas to all Orthodox and more.
          It seems that hand it to the Marshals and at least tomorrow to Paris or there Berlin will run in front of the train
          And at the expense of a gun and a steam locomotive, so, in the case of chago, my "eighty" are in a full battlefield and they shoot better than a gun and no engine will leave them ...
          1. sufix
            sufix 6 January 2016 23: 52 New
            0
            It's not that you need to be with your fists, but that in the comments there usually was some kind of Satan. This is what confuses. Someone there argues about ukro-patriots - how bloodthirsty they are and their priest is dirty, but in fact it turns out that we have not gone far. Does this really bother anyone?
      8. Truth
        Truth 6 January 2016 21: 43 New
        +1
        Briefly about the article read: - Piss against the wind, this is not grateful.
        1. zennon
          zennon 6 January 2016 22: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Truth
          Pissing against the wind is not grateful.

          Do not tell me. And if in the desert +40? laughing
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    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 6 January 2016 18: 15 New
      +3
      Think about it? Hmm ... Hardly. It all depends not on them, but there is hope (small, but it dies last). It is absurd so much that even their pity is already becoming. It is a pity that there is no independence, there remains only toadiness and stupidity.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 6 January 2016 19: 32 New
        +1
        ... even there are no French films - they have completely degraded ..
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 6 January 2016 20: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: ver_
          ... even there are no French films - they have completely degraded ..

          Why not? There are French films. It's just that the success of these films before Hollywood is less among those who distribute them on the Internet. Or maybe you mean films in French?
          1. ver_
            ver_ 6 January 2016 20: 48 New
            0
            ... surround yourself - if the film is worthwhile - it will be bought, if not - sorry, move in ..
    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 6 January 2016 18: 17 New
      +3
      Of course, sanctions are taken to put pressure on a particular state, and, most strange, by politicians. Even the most careful calculations do not give reason to believe that economic pressure will yield positive results and will not affect the country itself, which imposes sanctions. That is, everyone loses, but to admit it is to admit their failure in world politics.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 6 January 2016 18: 33 New
        +8
        If without a heck, then in the world only three countries are consistent in world politics, if not two. These are Russia, China and the USA. And that’s all.
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      2. Sid.74
        6 January 2016 18: 35 New
        17
        And in Izhevsk, personal computers began to collect ... wink

        Computers "Elbrus-401" with the installed domestic operating system are designed for customers who have increased requirements for information security. It is reported that the first batch of 80 computers and 20 motherboards shipped to the buyer. In 2016, Izhevsk Radio Plant will have to fulfill new orders for the production of Russian computers Elbrus.

        The xakep.ru edition emphasizes that the Elbrus and Baikal processors are the pride of the Russian processor industry. "Behind the word" Elbrus "stands an important historical branch of the development of domestic computing technology: multiprocessor computing systems, developed from the seventies to the nineties, as well as machine (and now - microprocessor) architecture, which is significantly different from the solutions existing on the mass market. a whole group of companies is connected - MCST, INEUM named after I. S. Brook and Elbrus-2000. At the same time, Elbrus is a trademark of microprocessors and computers that are designed and manufactured by MCST ",
        See completely: http://politrussia.com/news/izhevskiy-radiozavod-pristupil-251/
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 January 2016 18: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: Sid.74
          Computers "Elbrus-401" with the installed domestic operating system are intended for customers who have high requirements for information security.
          And given the fact that our breakthrough in quantum cryptography was announced not long ago ... oh, it’s even hard to imagine what open spaces could open up for the development of various types of secure communications
          1. Sid.74
            6 January 2016 19: 51 New
            11
            Quote: svp67
            And given the fact that it was not long ago announced our breakthrough in quantum cryptography ... oh, it is even difficult to imagine what open spaces can be opened

            what ... So, this!
            News of a gas station torn to shreds .... wassat Russian scientists were the first in the world to grow diamonds for photon electronics.

            laughing
            1. svp67
              svp67 6 January 2016 20: 13 New
              +6
              Quote: Sid.74
              News of a gas station torn to shreds ....

              Yes, that gas station ... one more, one less, and the dog with them, we have plenty of them, but it burns beautifully.
              1. Mikhail Krapivin
                Mikhail Krapivin 6 January 2016 23: 00 New
                +3
                Reminds me of an anecdote from the nineties, about how a bandit blew up his car at a gas station - "they said, insert the gun into the tank and press, well, I put my TT into the tank and pressed ..." :)
            2. topwar)
              topwar) 6 January 2016 20: 18 New
              -2
              it’s not convenient to answer, maybe I didn’t understand what, when will the interface be normal? and they don’t read mistakes here as Word really did it for whom?) Russia?
    4. Proxima
      Proxima 6 January 2016 18: 25 New
      +9
      History shows that sanctions against a country, if they are not global, that is, are not supported by absolutely all countries, are ineffective. And then, not a fact. The sanctions against South Africa were supported by everyone - both capital and socialist countries, the apartheid system did not suit everyone. And what helped? Then the conclusion suggests itself that sanctions are beneficial only to exchange and other speculators in order to rake profits on the phobias of fellow citizens. Well, of course, Obama reported to the electorate, saying that we timely responded to Russia's aggressive policy. So, let's not let the hucksters steal themselves.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 6 January 2016 19: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Proxima
        The sanctions against South Africa were supported by everyone - both capital and socialist countries, the apartheid system did not suit everyone. And what helped?

        The world community is Russia, the USA, China, England and France.
        Even when all the members of the UN Security Council are for one thing, some kind of Debirs with the slogan "Diamonds in exchange for goods" is expected. Russia is no exception. But nevertheless, the watered system of South Africa was broken and Iran's nuclear program was shoved.
        Here is another situevina, when three members decided to reward themselves with the whole world. Is the USA, England and France suffering from sanctions? Yes, a little bit. Some have Mistral and broken contracts for the second record capital outflow. Bullshit in general, compared to what other countries are losing
    5. vlad66
      vlad66 6 January 2016 18: 26 New
      27
      But there is no will. Will it appear? The question is open.

      They really have no will, all their will is gathered into a fist in the White House overseas, and they will never have the will, they buried it in NATO and the EU and in other blocs. Well, and we? Well, we live on fire.
    6. Ros 56
      Ros 56 6 January 2016 18: 26 New
      0
      What is enviable? Design a tourist on the streets of Europe. Joke.
    7. Rezident007
      Rezident007 6 January 2016 18: 32 New
      +3
      I agree. God grant that this does not happen in our country. There are problems with migrants in Russia. At all levels.
    8. Dembel77
      Dembel77 6 January 2016 18: 36 New
      +5
      Europe and in particular the European Union - this is not for you Somalia or Kuwait for some kind, not deeply respected gentlemen from Pentovashington! Why do I suddenly turn to them, I hope it is clear to everyone present - it’s not a secret whatsoever that the Chief of the Steering Europolitics is not in the old Europe, but a little further away — although, if you look closely, you will notice that attempts to occupy the position of the beholder in the transatlantic alliance come from European politicians who seek to play an increasingly independent role. Moreover, each individually. Those. there will be smart people in Europe - not now, but then they will be no match for the current leaders of the EU countries. In connection with the foregoing, allow me to express confidence that soon they - European politicians - will individually seek friendship with the Great Russian Empire. I would like to live to see this. But it will be!
      1. ver_
        ver_ 6 January 2016 20: 23 New
        +1
        ... however, mannered this very helmsman - they’ll choose Baba Clinton as the helmsman and the hockey will be hockey - for sure, if God wants to destroy anything, he will send a woman, that is, Baba Clinton and Matrasia will receive a scribe .., yeah - such a beast. .
    9. Old Schweik
      Old Schweik 6 January 2016 18: 50 New
      +2
      I went to the Figaro. Whatever news is about the Arabs. You can see for yourself. http://www.lefigaro.fr/
    10. Sharapov
      Sharapov 6 January 2016 20: 13 New
      +1
      Not an article, but a little water - he got it, there are no conclusions as there were not. 2 things confuse:
      1. The phrase about the stealing administration of the Crimea - as a possible provocation. Although earlier the version of mismanagement was officially voiced - just the inability to assimilate (saw) money.
      2. A somewhat Ukrainian approach to the topic, combined with the author's ukrofamily, raises the question - maybe the Cossack - mishandled ?.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 6 January 2016 20: 25 New
        0
        That's why you and Sharapov, Fox unwound with a hunchback, and these are seeds.
    11. topwar)
      topwar) 6 January 2016 20: 37 New
      -3
      Are you sick with Arabophobia?) I’m Russian, I don’t recognize Islam, since I’m Orthodox ... but I’m not a Natsik, I don’t believe in a super nation and so on, but if my life begins to be threatened about Islamic nationalities, it’s important how you all You encounter them, in the market, do not threaten? very good, and when they get rich from the bazaar, is it they that threaten me, or what?)
    12. sub307
      sub307 7 January 2016 03: 12 New
      0
      Yes, let them "howl" a little .... From the point of view of maximum use of their own sanctions for the benefit of Russia, my personal opinion, let them already be extended (sanctions), chtoli. Otherwise, our "effective managers" will never finish "import replacement" and ... again (or again, whoever "likes it") calm down and "bad people" will "sit down" on the notorious import, the bastards will stop "stirring". But when we "here" become completely (or near "completely") independent from "them", then these same "they" will "howl" for real. As the saying goes - "we e..li, we were getting stronger", or so - "what does not kill us, depresses stronger."
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    14. vic58
      vic58 7 January 2016 04: 42 New
      0
      Migrants have joined the euro values, Ph.D. German "film industry"! Now they learn in practice!
  2. Finches
    Finches 6 January 2016 18: 02 New
    +9
    If the European business community really regrets the sanctions, then let them press on their levers of influence in the political sphere! There is not a single politician who feeds from their hands ... Otherwise, all these regrets are just a concussion!
    1. 31rus
      31rus 6 January 2016 18: 18 New
      +8
      Dear, the EU regrets not cooperation, it is not difficult to have illusions. The market and profits are what they are interested in, but the Russian market is almost lost (although, if the sanctions are lifted, the GDP will give such "guarantees" that its own will go bankrupt), other Asian markets , especially American, you still need to conquer in the literal sense of the word, it turns out that things are not important and the further, the worse, but the EU has long lost its independent policy, so all this is a wish, who wants to really be friends with Russia, he does not whine, and long ago found a way to cooperate. Russia will not disappear, and I personally do not care about the EU
      1. zennon
        zennon 6 January 2016 18: 58 New
        0
        Quote: 31rus
        The market and profit is what interests them, but the Russian market has come to an end.

        Do not console yourself with empty illusions. For Europe, our market is insignificant. To some extent true. Italy, Greece are some losses. For the rest, to some extent, but not critical. The several billion that each country loses for the huge European market is seeds Yes, it’s bad, but not critical. But it’s bad for us. Look how the ruble sank. And do not point to oil. America began to provide itself with hydrocarbons, prices fell. But this only shows how much we are dependent on the USA and Europe. . The standard of living of the population is falling. The truth is opening up new opportunities with import substitution. In agriculture, industry. We must use this.
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 January 2016 19: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: zennon
          Do not entertain yourself with empty illusions. For Europe, our market is negligible

          The Ukrainian market is nothing for them, but the Russian market, pah and grind ... Do not tell.
          1. zennon
            zennon 6 January 2016 19: 45 New
            0
            Quote: svp67
            The Ukrainian market is nothing for them, but the Russian market, pah and grind ... Do not tell.

            Do you have any idea what the European Union is? And what is the scale of their trade with us? Here with China or mattresses, yes. Yes, and all trade has not disappeared. It concerns several groups of goods. That's how funny you are ...
            1. svp67
              svp67 6 January 2016 19: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: zennon
              Can you even imagine what the European Union is? And what is the scale of their trade with us?

              Can you imagine what it is like to lose "your piece of the pie." A holy place is never empty. And I know very well how the Japanese came to the place of the departed German companies, right there, with a smile of 32 teeth, and took the vacated places ... So, whatever the EU, but competition for sales markets, still no one has canceled and what kind of profit, for each of their invested euros they had with us, they will not have anywhere in the EU, not in America .. So, somehow you are "not laughing" ...
              1. zennon
                zennon 6 January 2016 21: 05 New
                0
                Quote: svp67
                in place of the departed German companies, immediately, with a smile in their 32 teeth, the Japanese arrived and took the vacant seats ...

                I am dealing with the Rico Russ company. The third manufacturer of copiers in the world. Things have been going badly for them lately. Employees are being fired. Automotive production has started. It occupies the most important place in Japan's investments in Russia. Crisis. So, ruddy critic my...
                1. svp67
                  svp67 6 January 2016 21: 41 New
                  +1
                  Quote: zennon
                  I am dealing with the Rico Russ company ... They have been doing badly lately.

                  and who says that it’s easy now, it’s not hard for everyone and they have to spin and spin, but the main thing is that you don’t need to lower your nose.
                  Quote: zennon
                  Crisis
                  This is how economies always develop cyclically. Worse, our ministers are not up to par in many respects and it would be better if they didn’t help, because you don’t know where to escape from such “help”.
                  I will say more, this year will be even more difficult, but our ancestors had a worse situation. But they survived and won, so it’s our sin to complain about the situation.
                  And at the expense of Japanese companies in the field of electrical engineering and industrial equipment, I was not joking. They really do go and try to "please" very much. So, the German Siemens, well, is losing a lot.
                  Quote: zennon
                  So, my rosy critic ...

                  Envy is SIN.
                  1. zennon
                    zennon 6 January 2016 22: 38 New
                    0
                    Quote: svp67
                    Envy is SIN.

                    No, I don’t envy. There is no need. Moreover, I am an atheist. Do not flatter yourself about import companies. The cost of our goods is 15% FZP, and only 5% in China. This is one of the reasons for their rapid growth. We are marking time.
                    Quote: svp67
                    I will say more, this year will be even more difficult

                    You said that, and here:
                    In 2015-2018, Russia's average GDP growth rate will be 0,5% - Standard & Poors

                    So with such indicators no one will invest ...
      2. anfil
        anfil 6 January 2016 18: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: 31rus
        ... whoever wants to really be friends with Russia does not whine, but has long found a way to cooperate. Russia will not disappear, and I shall spit on the EU personally


        The percentage of processed products in Russian exports for the first time exceeded the share of raw materials. As the deputy chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Constitutional Legislation Maxim Kavdzharadze said, this fact means that Russia got off the oil and gas “needle”.

        “We are slowly but surely moving away from the raw material dependence of our exports,” the senator told RIA Novosti. “And although a drop in oil and gas prices helped us here, I think the dominance of the commodity sector in Russia's exports will never return.”

        In particular, according to Kavjaradze, in 2014 for the first time in almost two decades, the total volume of finished products and services amounted to 51,5% of the total export volume. And in 2015, the share of goods and services reached already 54,2%.

        “So we see that Russia not only got rid of the raw material and oil and gas “needles”, but also further reduces its dependence. “Russian nuclear power plants, aircraft, ships, machinery, equipment, military equipment and engineering products are in demand in various countries,” said Maxim Kavdzharadze.

        At the same time, in absolute figures, oil export from the Russian Federation grew by 2015 year by 7,5% in comparison with the 2014 year. According to the Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak, exports reached a volume of 238 million tons. At the same time, the total volume of production this year will be more than 533 million tons. In 2014, the production of crude oil and gas condensate in the Russian Federation reached only 526,7 mln tons, and the 2015 growth of the year amounted to 6,9%.


        http://teknoblog.ru/2016/01/06/53323
  3. izya top
    izya top 6 January 2016 18: 04 New
    +6
    and Brussels refused to compensate for the losses from closing the free trade zone with Russia recourse probably Putin sold everything there bully
    1. svp67
      svp67 6 January 2016 18: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: izya top
      and Brussels refused to compensate for the losses from closing the free trade zone with Russia, probably to Putin

      No, just "everyone survives for himself." And the EU did not refuse to compensate Yatsenyuk, but to the entire people of Ukraine. Well, sho, z chergovy "zradoy-peremogy"
      1. Silkway0026
        Silkway0026 6 January 2016 18: 26 New
        +6
        Ovum (and Ukraine in his person) are really naive or kidding ... ??? Europe was pulling them up not at all what to give or compensate for, but stupidly rob and rob.
        Kindergarten, by God, how small!
      2. PValery53
        PValery53 6 January 2016 18: 50 New
        +3
        When it comes to counting money, the principle "every ram hangs by its leg" (pursues its own (selfish) interests) works.
  4. Hubun
    Hubun 6 January 2016 18: 05 New
    0
    letting them get better
  5. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 6 January 2016 18: 05 New
    14
    Especially beautiful about nanochu - he predicts, oh how! He, I remember, predicted a Volga for each voucher. Kirzachom would hit that prophet on a brazen red face, from all the immense ...
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 6 January 2016 18: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: iliitch
      Kirzach would kirzanut on the impudent red face

      It will not work, in the Russian Federation he is considered "untouchable" / "sudra" in short /. request
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 6 January 2016 18: 42 New
        +4
        Don't say gop, as they say in mov, maybe we can wait until "the sun has gone down".
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 6 January 2016 18: 39 New
      +1
      Entirely and completely FOR, and more than once.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 6 January 2016 18: 42 New
      +6
      Quote: iliitch
      Especially beautiful about nanochu - he predicts, oh how! He, I remember, predicted to everyone as much as a "Volga" for a voucher ...

      Two Volgas each! fellow
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 6 January 2016 20: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Two Volgas each!

        Yes, yes, with marinas and steamers! But sooner or later the times of the "untouchables" are over!
    4. vlad66
      vlad66 6 January 2016 18: 50 New
      27
      Quote: iliitch
      Kirzach would have smiled across the impudent red face to that prophet, from all immense.

      Kirzach somehow not solid, so probably better. good
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 6 January 2016 19: 19 New
        +2
        Not that from that poodle, that from this harm is less, while alive. They will overwhelm, say, so the noise will be - they will not be allowed to rest, they will be pulled out of the grave and will begin to shake in front of the owners, demanding a "risky" increase to thirty. Do not go to granny.
  6. svp67
    svp67 6 January 2016 18: 06 New
    +3
    Should we cooperate with the EU? So without any special problems, all that is necessary is that the EU would abandon only one of its conditions: "Russians surrender."
    1. 11 black
      11 black 6 January 2016 18: 23 New
      12
      Quote: svp67
      "Russians surrender."


      smile
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 6 January 2016 23: 57 New
        +1
        “The Russians do not surrender,” said the prince of Kiev. Interestingly, such cartoons were also banned in Ukraine? And most importantly, the trident went right into the business. laughing
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  7. altman
    altman 6 January 2016 18: 08 New
    +4
    We need to cooperate with the EU, but so that our products dominate the market, so that their sanctions help to get on the feet of our industry and agriculture
  8. avvg
    avvg 6 January 2016 18: 09 New
    +8
    Pyongyang is doing hydrogen bomb under sanctions, but what’s weak for us?
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 6 January 2016 18: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      Pyongyang is doing hydrogen bomb under sanctions, but what’s weak for us?


      Not weak! Do not just. Gauges flew gnemic and measured all the EEC! There is no shield from blows. So the boiling began .... contents (((
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 6 January 2016 20: 19 New
        0
        Quote: meriem1
        . So the boiling began .... contents (((

        And the content is - s! And with even more content customized!
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 6 January 2016 18: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      Pyongyang is doing hydrogen bomb under sanctions, but what’s weak for us?

      Not weak!
      Our academician A. Sakharov invented the hydrogen bomb during the period of sanctions against the USSR such as the Venik-Jackson amendment)))
      1. ver_
        ver_ 6 January 2016 20: 35 New
        0
        ... and rushed to the liberals singing when it became profitable ..
  9. awersa
    awersa 6 January 2016 18: 10 New
    +5
    Yes ... it’s easy to destroy relations with Russia, but it’s practically impossible to establish them to the same level as before the sanctions, because - A holy place doesn’t exist empty, and we and our mustaches “don’t sell, we will work hard, but we’ll do it "And another big question - who needs whom more ... forest gentlemen Europeans ... go through the forest, and bow down to the American master ...
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 6 January 2016 20: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: awersa
      , and along the way to the American gentleman

      Lick, lick and lick, until the 10th cleanliness of the surface!
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 7 January 2016 00: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Tol100v
        Lick, lick and lick, until the 10th cleanliness of the surface!

        There are still 14 classes of surface cleanliness. Let them lick up to the 14th class.
  10. Mixweb
    Mixweb 6 January 2016 18: 10 New
    +4
    Something seems to me, as the "big uncles" from Washington will say, so Europe will do. And they wanted to chhat at losses. After all, for them the main thing for Uncle Sam is to lick one place
  11. gergi
    gergi 6 January 2016 18: 10 New
    +6
    Thanks to the Europeans, we did a great service for our people, saved us from pink glasses. Showed their mugs in full growth. There are no illusions left, the enemies are fierce!
  12. shadow
    shadow 6 January 2016 18: 12 New
    +3
    And who prevents them from canceling? And from the fact that someone there spares someone or something, the sanctions will not be lifted. And further. You can say anything, but not everyone can or wants to do it. I'm talking about the lifting of sanctions.
  13. WU 37
    WU 37 6 January 2016 18: 13 New
    +2
    Business communities regret ... but as long as America commands everything, no one will cancel anything. A strong Russia is not profitable for the Yankos and they will do everything to weaken it. Putin cannot do anything alone, his team is weak at least that all officials study children abroad, and there is real estate. We must wait until Obama leaves, maybe then something will change.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 6 January 2016 19: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: WU 37
      .Putin will not be able to do anything alone, his team is weak

      Yes, you just need to change this team without fear and doubt! And do not pray for all sorts of frames!
      1. WU 37
        WU 37 6 January 2016 20: 23 New
        +1
        And why did you decide that someone is praying for Obama? No one is going to, but perceive the situation as it is, and not what you want
      2. ver_
        ver_ 6 January 2016 20: 44 New
        +1
        ... do not change the mares at the crossing ..
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 6 January 2016 20: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: WU 37
      We must wait until Obama leaves, maybe then something will change.

      Waiting for Obama to leave, a waste of time! He is a simple zits-chairman, like all modern SGA preziki! What fin.orotiliki order, they do!
    3. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 6 January 2016 22: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: WU 37
      We must wait until Obama leaves, maybe then something will change.

      Now is not the time of Roosevelt F.D. Now the president of the SGA is a talking head, a puppet in the hands of oligarchs.
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  14. valokordin
    valokordin 6 January 2016 18: 13 New
    +2
    Do not in vain mention this nano-filth, or rather megafuck. Strangely sucks billions from the budget, invents nothing and does not produce any consequences. That's how it should be, he says, giving out bonuses arranging banquets at the expense of the budget. Why not Serdyukov, after all, not 37 years old. With nano money one could raise pensions by 10%
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 6 January 2016 19: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: valokordin
      Do not in vain mention this nano-filth, or rather megafuck.

      But somehow he is sweet to Putin! So he lives inviolable and continues to steal no less successfully! And spit on all of us down!
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 January 2016 18: 16 New
    +2
    I would venture to express my own opinion - sanctions for Russia are good. Finally, they HAVE to look for internal resources for investments, and not speculate on the difference in the cost of credit resources in our country and in the West. This will force banks to seek ways of lending to the industry. I wish I closed the exchange for the demon, and introduced currency regulation. In the form of a mandatory 100% sale of foreign currency earnings. Well then me.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 6 January 2016 18: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I would venture to express my own opinion - sanctions for Russia are good. Finally, they HAVE to look for internal resources for investments, and not speculate on the difference in the cost of credit resources in our country and in the West. This will force banks to seek ways of lending to the industry. I wish I closed the exchange for the demon, and introduced currency regulation. In the form of a mandatory 100% sale of foreign currency earnings. Well then me.

      Rothenbergs rub their hands cleverly. There are almost no competitors.
      Mandatory sale of currency? Has it been canceled long ago? Have they been canceled? Exchange close? And where does repo sell the central bank currency to sell? Where will the goods be sold?
    2. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 6 January 2016 19: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      speculate on the difference in the cost of credit resources in our country and in the West.

      These are half measures. The real measure is to nationalize the Central Bank and get out of the control of the US Federal Reserve!
  16. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 6 January 2016 18: 17 New
    0
    I understand that politeness is watered and all that ...
    But it was necessary to write that the euro-nation, or rather the euro-ass, did not give a damn about the opinion of its citizens, would be extended while the overseas partner and member ordered it! It’s convenient for them to stand in the knee-elbow and suck up the chains, let them now not whimper and do not whine. By the way, Ukraine will have to go through this soon, though without our help. Business, nothing personal and no friendship with wolves ...
  17. V.ic
    V.ic 6 January 2016 18: 19 New
    +1
    It’s just that the “pitiful” of the Gayropeus has not yet grown. There is a proverb: "with whom you sleep from that and the miscarriage will be" / they also "tumbled" with the USA /.
  18. gg.na
    gg.na 6 January 2016 18: 27 New
    +5
    She woke up wassat (Europe) when the night passed lol ! Yes, let the elbows bite should be punished somehow! Though so, they returned what they themselves launched! And let them be tolerant laughing enduring bully yaaat !! wassat They will be there and not only robbed and raped, but as recent events have shown and kill! Well, they have the same TOLERANCE lol GY-GY !!! Be patient !!!
  19. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 6 January 2016 18: 27 New
    +4
    But one thing is certain: relations between Russia and the EU will never be the same. Only business, gentlemen, too often had to be burned on lies and betrayal.


    I liked this phrase of the author: it’s interesting whether our leaders can ever really build normal economic relations with Europe, and whether they have enough political will to do so. It’s not a secret, after all, that the floor of DAMA’s government is sitting and waiting for an increase in oil prices, while the second half is anxiously watching its property in Europe. I exaggerate of course, but I think that our country deserves a more serious role in the world economy than our liberal government can provide us with.
    Something so subjective of course, I think, colleagues. hi
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 6 January 2016 18: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      It’s no secret, after all, that the floor of DAMA’s government is sitting and waiting for an increase in oil prices, and the second half anxiously monitors his property in the same Europe. Exaggerating of course ...


      And I will support this assumption ... yes
    2. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 6 January 2016 19: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      subjectively of course I think

      These are not subjective thoughts, but real reality!
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 7 January 2016 00: 14 New
        0
        Quote: yuriy55
        And I will support this assumption ...

        Quote: Saratoga833
        These are not subjective thoughts, but real reality!


        Thank you colleagues for your support. I don’t know how anyone and I am pleased that someone shares the point of view. hi
  20. Stinger
    Stinger 6 January 2016 18: 33 New
    +5
    If canceled, we do not need to cancel. Renew every six months until 2020. Until we get off the oil and gas needle. Then force Gazprom to gasify every hut in Russia. Until this is done do not ban the export of gas. Otherwise, the great Russian people will drown with wood until the 31st century. Gas is the property of Russia, not Gazprom.
  21. SAM 5
    SAM 5 6 January 2016 18: 33 New
    +1
    With this we would have the EU (kazly) stand in the general shafts against terror. So these ue ... ki don't want to understand anything. It’s easier to spit not fucking states and build a future life together.
    Okay guys, Happy New Year to you - Merry Christmas Good luck to everyone. drinks
  22. IrOqUoIs
    IrOqUoIs 6 January 2016 18: 33 New
    +1
    The most interesting, but just normal, good-neighborly relations between us and Europe are the key to security in Europe itself.
    Alas, now there are none, so what?
    Doesn't smell like my safety ...
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 6 January 2016 20: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: IrOqUoIs
      The most interesting, but just normal, good-neighborly relations between us and Europe are the key to security in Europe itself.

      And where in Europe is the will of Europe visible? The State Department runs the show there!
  23. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 6 January 2016 18: 35 New
    +5
    How are these groans, lift the sanctions! -Already gave !!!!!!!! USSR at
    sanctions lived, and we, their legal successors, and a day without whining, is not able to live. Well (from the category of fiction), they will remove all sanitation and that, as if nothing had happened with these US colonies, we will continue to build "normal relations "which will never become normal! We will not be left alone, and if the sanctions are lifted, then only to invent another method to strangle our country. My personal opinion is that we need to live as if we are under sanctions forever, even when they are will be canceled. We should have a priority not to develop "friendship" with the EU and the USA, but to develop our economy in every conceivable way. And yet, they will lift the sanctions, and we should give orders and contracts there, not to countries but to companies, and exactly what to order for now we cannot create it ourselves.
  24. Masya masya
    Masya masya 6 January 2016 18: 36 New
    20
    "But the task of the EU (as it turned out recently - of the geopolitical bloc) is completely different. It is impossible a priori to achieve the goal set for the sanctions."
    клик
  25. yuriy55
    yuriy55 6 January 2016 18: 37 New
    +5
    Europe acted like an ordinary whore. She, apparently from across the ocean, in case of support, was promised (cut) plots of Russian territories "ravaged and abandoned by savages and drunks". They even showed, using the example of a neighboring country, how this will come true and will happen ... I forgot the commandments of my venerable ancestors, forgot the bitter historical experience and ... lay down ...

    One thing you did not take into account ... Russia did not "be led" by promises, threats, or lured liberalism that had settled inside, and set the "heat" with its characteristic persistence. She was not frightened of any shaking of air, or the death of her citizens, or stabs in the back ... Persistently and methodically fulfilling the task set for myself ...

    Now the whore, who was somehow paid before, is put in the position of "a la squid" with the prospect of being deprived of all privileges and respect. And those who have deprived her of this will not stand on ceremony and look back at historical genealogies. Their desires are as simple as they are disgusting for the European civilized society ...
    Perhaps Russian economic ties with the "old woman" will be restored, only the former trust will no longer exist ...
    As we say, do not spit in the well, would not have to ...
    what
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 6 January 2016 18: 50 New
      10
      When did Europe behave differently? Hitler immediately lay down ...
  26. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 January 2016 18: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    and all the people of Ukraine


    Sorry, there is a question. Who do you mean? The people there remained only in the DPR and Lugansk People's Republic, and even then they begin to mislead.
  27. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 January 2016 18: 37 New
    +2
    Europe can speak and lament at will.
    But here we will watch on business ...
    And if the Europeans so want, let them look for ways to get around the sanctions ... unless of course the Americans allow them.
    But something bad is happening with China, oil is crumbling like a kapets.
  28. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 6 January 2016 18: 42 New
    +4
    Russia does not even make sense to think about lifting the sanctions.
    Yes, they treated Europe as a partner, but, guided by common sense, we must conclude that having such a partner is simply not reasonable.
    What were the reasons to impose sanctions against the Russian Federation, especially at a loss? Did not understand that
    1) are they dealing with a coup in Ukraine that the junta won due to the cowardice of Yanukovych, who was afraid to disobey the Western partners and declare martial law, which left Berkut to be torn to pieces? That the Maidan won by the forces of the fascist radicals with the connivance of law enforcement agencies?
    2) the entry of Crimea corresponded to the will of the people, i.e. this is a democratic process.
    3) the Boeing was a pretext, there is no fault of the Russian Federation in this disaster, this is evidenced by the lack of investigation results?
    4) the peaceful resolution of the situation in the Donbass depends on Kiev, but not on Russia?
    All 4 questions have one answer; there were no grounds for imposing sanctions.
    Partnerships are always two interconnected parties, but to drown a partner to drown your business? One must not be friends with one another in order to renew business and partnerships after all that Europe has done. And Europe has already proved its bankruptcy and unreliability. And there should not be a return to the old relationship.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 6 January 2016 20: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: olimpiada15
      , we must conclude that having such a partner

      To have and have, only to your advantage!
  29. Sergei64
    Sergei64 6 January 2016 18: 50 New
    +1
    The clairvoyants correctly predicted the campaign, the kirdyk comes to the geyrope, the counter-sanctions, and even the Asians, the whole process has begun. It’s just a pity that ordinary people don’t want such an end.
  30. Awaz
    Awaz 6 January 2016 18: 56 New
    +1
    Sanctions rather played a positive role than did harm, but the authorities here cannot take advantage of the prevailing conjuncture and instead of using the situation to the maximum, everyone is sitting and waiting for the lifting of the sanctions. And indeed, sanctions would not have affected us almost if Russia had not hung head over heels in debt. Everyone is mired in debts and the authorities are also being polluted in places to save debtors. And most importantly, it was necessary to stimulate the population. If in reality the fall of 14 years and the beginning of 15 years still survived on the mass rubbish of depreciated money by the population, now people just stupidly do not buy anything. And VAT is more than 30 percent of the budget revenue. I’ll say a lot of money at the level of oil sales, but based on the fact that the profitability of oil sales has fallen, the source is not bad. People need to be encouraged to spend money and not cut salaries, so that the oligarchs would export the money to the United States.
  31. Gunther
    Gunther 6 January 2016 18: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: altman
    We need to cooperate with the EU, but so that our products dominate the market, so that their sanctions help to get on the feet of our industry and agriculture

    To do this, get out of the pit of the WTO.
    Europe regrets sanctions

    It's a pity as a bee is known
    In general, sanctions are such an invigorating kick to our oligarchy, helping them to correctly assess their place in the world ranking table.
    For example, Firtash, when he was standing on four bones in Vienna, perhaps felt this place, realized that buying football clubs (Eclipse-type yachts) and European patronage would not change this situation.
    Of course, there is a negative point, this is a decline in living standards and a breakdown in our defense industry (for example, Motor Sich PJSC, for example), but in general I assess the sanctions positively, especially with regard to our oligarchs and hunting ranks.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 6 January 2016 19: 25 New
      10
      Quote: Gunter
      For example, Firtash,

      Quote: Gunter
      a breakdown in our defense industry (for example, Motor Sich PJSC),

      Dear Gunther, you are confusing something, Firtash is to the Ukrainian side, please, Motor Sich is also a Ukrainian company, and Ukraine, as far as my memory serves, is not under sanctions.
  32. Gunther
    Gunther 6 January 2016 19: 01 New
    0
    Quote: altman
    We need to cooperate with the EU, but so that our products dominate the market, so that their sanctions help to get on the feet of our industry and agriculture

    To do this, get out of the pit of the WTO.
    Europe regrets sanctions

    It is a pity as is known in a bee.
    In general, sanctions are such an invigorating kick to our oligarchy, helping them to correctly assess their place in the world ranking table.
    For example, Firtash, when he was standing on four bones in Vienna, perhaps felt this place, realized that buying football clubs (Eclipse-type yachts) and European patronage would not change this situation.
    Of course, there is a negative point, such as a decline in living standards and a breakdown in the pace in our defense industry (Motor Sich PJSC, for example), but in general I assess the sanctions positively, especially with regard to our oligarchs and hunting ranks.
  33. Obolensky
    Obolensky 6 January 2016 19: 07 New
    +3
    And here again - sanctions. If Europe regrets the imposed sanctions so much, who is stopping them from lifting them and living in harmony in peace, helping each other? So no ... United Europe wants to rule. She always wanted to dominate. And if other countries and nationalities submitted to her, then Russia still has not succumbed to. It failed in the 13th century, failed in the 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. Came 21. But still - did not give in. There were moments of weakness, but still - I did not give in. And in the 21st century, Europe is no longer the same. A long time ago he listens to an overseas neighbor, a former colony. So what does Europe regret? Maybe about your "innocence" or even freedom? After all, the overseas neighbor did not give freedom, he gave its appearance, which was accepted ... So what next? Never mind! As long as they are deceived, as long as they are controlled, they will continue to regret. About everything. About everything that they will be told. Masks ... Carnival clothing. Feast in Time of Plague! And the plague is already near! And how could this Europe not regret it! Not to regret that instead of living their minds, they decided to borrow from others, sacrificing their freedom and their mind. And the time is drawing near.

    I do not "croak", it just so happened that in our world, not a single empire created by people lives long. There are enough examples and I don’t see the point of giving them here. It's just that at this stage it can be more serious. Or maybe not. We will see.

    But the fact that the States are trying to stay afloat at the expense of others is a fact. It’s easier for them to plunge the entire planet into global stink, so as not to lose their influence, their money, their resources.

    Do they have a worthy adversary?
  34. 4ekist
    4ekist 6 January 2016 19: 14 New
    +3
    And we all show reinforced concrete endurance and do not succumb to provocations. Let them forget about the Russian market forever. These European gentlemen are not our comrades and partners, but sworn enemies.
  35. evgeny1979
    evgeny1979 6 January 2016 19: 16 New
    +5
    Horseradish with them let them regret further, and we do not succumb to their snot yes and develop ourselves and not depend on anyone !!!
  36. vobels
    vobels 6 January 2016 19: 29 New
    +3
    And develop ourselves and establish new economic ties, bypassing the Ess.
  37. konvalval
    konvalval 6 January 2016 19: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Altona
    They are already fucked by Arabs in the streets, and we are almond with this shoe.

    No, we are just waiting for them to be shot there in full form, then we will get to Paris again.

    Well no. I’m afraid that we will fool out. For some reason, nobody and nothing teaches us anything.
    1. nrex
      nrex 6 January 2016 20: 13 New
      +2
      Precisely, once again we will save the World and in the ending we will get the label "occupants". HISTORY runs in a circle every century. Teutons, Tatars, Turks, French, Germans ... Whom did you not name? Who's next?
  38. NDR-791
    NDR-791 6 January 2016 19: 43 New
    +2
    “We are interested in removing them [sanctions]. Russia and the EU as important economic partners should strive to normalize relations, ”said Vygaudas Usackas, EU Ambassador to Russia.
    Baida is all this. LEAVE SANCTIONS AS IT WAS !!! At least something has earned its own. And sanctions have never hindered the movement of money. A simple example - in 46, three months after Churchill’s speech, the impudently calmly sold us not only Rolls-Royce engines, but also a production license. Another example - already after the sanctions, we had an article here rather rosy about the supply of Amersky equipment for our offshore drilling rigs. And no sanctions do not interfere !!!
    Moreover, Riyadh dumps prices, and I very much doubt that it is to my advantage, and not at the request of a puddle. I think that Texas old men are shooting at two bunnies - we are choked up by the old harmfulness and squeezed up our shale upstarts.
  39. Korsar4
    Korsar4 6 January 2016 19: 46 New
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    I would venture to express my own opinion - sanctions for Russia are good.


    Something good. If the vacant niches are occupied by their production. But how many good networks we have against this background continues to happen.
  40. roskot
    roskot 6 January 2016 19: 54 New
    0
    It was necessary to cry earlier. Now we will live without your snot.
  41. cergey51046
    cergey51046 6 January 2016 19: 57 New
    +1
    These are crocodile tears, double standards, and more simply hypocrisy. They regret in words, but extend. Our country must not be dependent on others, the Iron Curtain.
  42. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 6 January 2016 20: 02 New
    +5
    Colleagues, all these regrets are just words. Yes, well them. Chatter all a lot, "our" liberals out there can speak even the most sacred for the Russian people. And for me, our country should be, as it were, above the sanctions. We will not break through. Piglets, for meat, began to produce twenty-five percent more and in just four years. Let's fix everything else.
  43. Chebuldos
    Chebuldos 6 January 2016 20: 17 New
    0
    But is there an unambiguous opinion in the European Union / I would like to ask: But what if not all in the European Union voted to extend the sanctions?
  44. Junior, I
    Junior, I 6 January 2016 20: 21 New
    +3
    Russia needs to be returned to the G8 (G8), an association of leading economically developed countries. This was stated by co-chairman of the Left Party faction in the Bundestag, Sarah Wagenknecht.
    “Initially, it was a mistake to exclude Russia from it. We see from the example of Syria that without Russia it is impossible to achieve political decisions, ”she said in an interview with DPA. According to the politician, the more they isolate Russia, the greater the danger of escalation of conflicts becomes.


    Wagenknecht burns.
  45. Signaller
    Signaller 6 January 2016 20: 26 New
    +2
    Yes, no politics. Every man born in Europe will be a Muslim. And at least you --- you can’t do anything. Everyone drove ....
  46. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 6 January 2016 20: 27 New
    +5
    According to the rules of the WTO, there can be no sanctions.

    According to UN rules, there can be no sanctions outside the Security Council.

    Sanctions are an act of economic war = an act of war in general. Europe can be reminded "sanctions"Napoleon against England. He ended badly. I sincerely hope that modern homo-Europe will end as well; peace be upon her.

    PS G. Chubais I propose to better predict the cost of a copro voucher at the moment; where did the share of property of every citizen of the USSR go? The ECHR (no matter what shit he later dealt with) recalls, awarded a friend Voucher to pay one Russian citizen the cost of an apartment (as promised, 1 voucher = 2 Volga). He executed the decision. According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, all citizens of Russia are equal before the law. So he owes to every citizen of the Russian Federation the equivalent value of material goods. Let him pay first.
  47. topwar)
    topwar) 6 January 2016 20: 41 New
    -1
    sanctions are political Lalyalya, well, closed the border, Lallyalyalya, do you think they closed?)))
  48. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 6 January 2016 20: 43 New
    +3
    I won’t even read an article with that title!
    Morbid awareness: Europe regrets sanctions

    That's enough about how "they all feel bad there and how they are there ..."
    Enough of this stupid propaganda from the traitors of Russia!
    Yes, I don't care what "they have there" !!!
    So far it has become worse only here - in Russia!
    Prices are rising by leaps and bounds! Speculators are booming!
    Russia's resources are stolen!
    Enough!
  49. topwar)
    topwar) 6 January 2016 20: 45 New
    -1
    it is not convenient to write comments and read answers, what’s done ??? Is it in Russian?
  50. wandlitz
    wandlitz 6 January 2016 20: 48 New
    +1
    But for now, we have what we have - sanctions until the end of July, a retaliatory embargo, "black" lists, and all that is connected with all this.
    Europe and America extended sanctions against Russia for another six months - until 31 July 2016
    .
    IMHO. Europe will not abolish sanctions, the transatlantic regional committee will not give permission for this ...