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Terrorism and the US alliance with the Gulf countries - we did not even notice an elephant (CounterPunch, USA)

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Terrorism and the US alliance with the Gulf countries - we did not even notice an elephant (CounterPunch, USA)



When it comes to existing discourses on efforts to resist radicalization and subsequent extremism, it turns out that Western politicians and media issues want to address anything but long-term processes.

The Gulf States (namely, Saudi Arabia and Qatar) became an elephant in the china shop, whose government organizations worked as an ideological incubator in which extremist feelings flourished, both within countries and abroad.

This is rarely talked about sensibly, since the Saudis continue to hire a number of American lobbyists and PR specialists, one of them is PR Edelman. The world's largest privately held PR agency, Edelman is known for helping clients in positive media coverage in leading media outlets. At the same time, the Saudi-led coalition continues to bombard the poorest countries in the Middle East (Yemen), violating international law, which - like so much else in their activities - is being approved by the West because of its delicious arms deals, which in turn provides Gulf countries with impunity for action. This explains the noticeable blindness of the media and the minimal coverage of events in Yemen in the leading Western media.

If you look at the links of extremist movements with these countries, it turns out that they use various direct and indirect methods of financing and arming. The first example is al-Qaida-linked Jabhat al-Nusra in Syria. The Gulf States, together with a member of NATO Turkey, effectively armed them under the pretext of arming the so-called moderate coalition Jaish al-Fatah, which itself consists of fanatical groups of Sunni Islamists, like Ahrar al-Sham.

Qatar, in particular, is known for having financed such groups, paying ransom, acting as an intermediary in hostage situations. The most recent example is in Arsala (Lebanon), where Qatar mediated in the exchange of prisoners for the release of Lebanese soldiers taken hostage. Using this method has allowed them to avoid funding charges for those who are actually al-Qaeda militants.

Nowadays, a large proportion of extremism that we see today is rooted in support of the US and Saudi Arabia for the Afghan Mujahideen in 1980 for the war against the Soviets, we know them as the Taliban. It is significant how such a policy of arming the "moderate Islamists" unfolded in such a way that it hit the United States, which has to invest in conflicts just to get rid of the problem, which they also helped and encouraged to create. We are witnessing a similar process today in Syria.

As part of this process, the Saudis will continue to use their petrodollars to finance and build fanatical religious schools. Only in the region of Punjab (in which extremism appears on a regular basis) has the number of madrasahs (religious seminaries) of Salafis increased threefold in the past several decades. The same is connected with the recent shooting in San Bernardino, because US officials found links between the notorious Lal Masjid mosque in Islamabad and a woman (Tashfin Malik) who took part in the ISIL-inspired massacre. This mosque is notorious for its links with past extremism and its leader (Molana Abdul Aziz), who in Pakistan has built a reputation for hateful rhetoric. In the past, he expressed support for ISIS, called the library after Osama bin Laden, and refused to condemn the massacre of schoolchildren in Rawalpindi (to the displeasure of even many of his followers).

In light of the shooting in San Bernardino and the attacks in Paris, it becomes almost inevitable that, despite the common efforts of the intelligence agencies, the terrorist attacks in the West will only become more frequent. However, we still have to see whether the Western governments will reconsider their position regarding the Allies in the Middle East. If they continue to bestow impunity on them, it will mean that any efforts to seriously take on extremists will only be hypocrisy, but it is their citizens who will continue to pay for governments that stubbornly deny the ideological roots of extremism.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 6 January 2016 15: 35 New
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    Nowadays, a large proportion of extremism that we see today is rooted in support of the US and Saudi Arabia for the Afghan Mujahideen in 1980 for the war against the Soviets, we know them as the Taliban. It is significant how such a policy of arming the "moderate Islamists" unfolded in such a way that it hit the United States, which has to invest in conflicts just to get rid of the problem, which they also helped and encouraged to create. We are witnessing a similar process today in Syria.


    The author forgot to mention Turkey and their role.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 6 January 2016 15: 42 New
      +6
      What is the strength in, brother? Strength in Truth ... They are all weak, some in the West ..
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 6 January 2016 15: 49 New
        +4
        However, we still need to see if Western governments will reconsider their position regarding allies in the Middle East. If they continue to give them impunity, it will mean that any efforts to seriously take on extremists will be only hypocrisy, but it is their citizens who will continue to pay for governments that stubbornly deny the ideological roots of extremism.


        In fact, there’s nothing to add ... request
        1. 34 region
          34 region 6 January 2016 16: 01 New
          18
          You can add. By supporting allies in the Middle East, they thereby support refugee flows to Europe. Essentially preparing themselves for suicide. On the one hand, Europe is pumping weapons, on the other hand, refugees are pumping, on the third side, Ukraine is going bankrupt and from there, different sectors will probably come forward with a fuse. Perhaps unrest with locals and visitors will begin in the EU. And there will be a massacre with the capture of military units and weapons. We already went through this in the 90s. So the technology is worked out.
      2. Wolverine
        Wolverine 6 January 2016 18: 04 New
        +5
        Of course, the weak, the Islamists will tear them like a hot-water bottle, tolerance has killed not only one people, but here in bulk the European Union, it’s sad but also not a pity as they have completely degraded.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 6 January 2016 19: 03 New
          +7
          When the Islamists begin to tear the Europeans, they will have to escape somewhere to escape. It is necessary to escape from the strong. And crowds of these tolerant people can rush to us. Do we need them? Where will we put them and how to feed them? Humanitarian disaster? Do we need her? There is a game with more than one move. And this multi-path was not conceived today.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 6 January 2016 21: 42 New
            +2
            34 region
            When the Islamists begin to tear the Europeans ... crowds of these tolerant people can rush to us (to be saved). Do we need them? Where will we put them and how to feed them? Humanitarian disaster? Do we need her? There is a game with more than one move. And this multi-path was not conceived today.

            In addition to a humanitarian catastrophe, one can also see a moral one. All these "civilized" Europeans are already officially homophiles and ideological distributors and propagandists of homophilia.

            HOMOPHILITY - (from the Greek. "Homos" - the same and "phileo" - I love) - the requirement to recognize the equality of sexual perversions and normal forms of sexual behavior, as well as to provide sexual perverts with free propaganda of their behavior; one of the means to stop the reproduction of man as a biological species, that is, the manifestation of an antisystem.

            Is homophilia of Russia necessary? No, it is not necessary either. Therefore, the European "refugees" from this point of view are not needed in Russia.
          2. am808s
            am808s 7 January 2016 02: 08 New
            +1
            Why immediately feed? Have you forgotten how it used to be? They took children and women, and let the peasants defend their country to the last. And you can’t let the rulers of the west towards Russia on a cannon-shot, and we have everything!
        2. Maxom75
          Maxom75 7 January 2016 14: 25 New
          0
          Apparently not in vain a familiar Volga German living in Germany keeps a passport of a citizen of Russia and says with sadness: "Apparently another five years and we will run back to Russia, but this time together with the native Germans."
    2. Inok10
      Inok10 6 January 2016 15: 44 New
      12
      Quote: cniza
      The author forgot to mention Turkey and their role.

      .. in case of direct participation of Turkey .. its fate is not enviable .. it will be like Poland, which has 5 sections, though it didn’t increase their mind, judging by today's cries .. just toilet paper .. hi
      1. Inok10
        Inok10 6 January 2016 15: 57 New
        25
        Quote: Inok10
        ..in case of direct participation of Turkey .. her fate is not enviable ..

        PS: .. I will clearly illustrate for the Turks .. hi
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 6 January 2016 16: 00 New
          +6
          Quote: Inok10
          PS: .. I will clearly illustrate for the Turks

          The map is good, but why did Kars leave Kurdistan? belay
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 6 January 2016 16: 41 New
            +8
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Inok10
            PS: .. I will clearly illustrate for the Turks

            The map is good, but why did Kars leave Kurdistan? belay

            Kars can be returned to Armenia and you can also revive the Pontic Republic.
          2. Bochik
            Bochik 6 January 2016 21: 56 New
            -4
            Quote: Ingvar 72

            The map is good, but why did Kars leave Kurdistan? belay

            And what a fig Alanya was torn from Antalya? Moreover, Armenians once ruled Alanya. To the Turks ...
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 7 January 2016 00: 28 New
              0
              Quote: Bochik
              And what a fig Alanya was torn from Antalya? Moreover, Armenians once ruled Alanya. To the Turks.

              Founded by Greek colonists in the XNUMXnd century BC. e., in the Roman era, the city served as a refuge for smugglers and pirates.

              Antique Alanya, also known as Karakession and Kalonoros (translated from Greek as “beautiful mountain”), used to serve as a haven for pirates.

              They trembled all merchant shipping in the Mediterranean and carried on a brisk trade in slaves, the main organizers of which, however, were large Roman landowners.

              The Roman Senate armed Pompey with a fleet of 120 thousand soldiers who for almost two months cleared all the Marais Nostrum (our sea) of pirates.

              A decisive battle with the robbers retreating east took place before Corakesion in 67 BC. e.

              Then Mark Anthony presented this city and the whole of Cilicia to Cleopatra, who used the local cedar forests for shipbuilding.

              Then began the almost thousand-year period of the history of the city as part of the Byzantine Empire.

              In the VII century. the city fell into decay due to raids by the Arabs.

              In the XIII century, the city was captured by the Seljuks and renamed “Alai” in honor of the Seljuk Sultan Al-ad-din Kay-Kubad. When it was built, the Red Tower, as well as a significant part of the fortress. In 1293-1471 years. Alaye (Alanya) was the center of the independent Beilik Karamanogullarov.

              Due to its proximity to the Seljuk capital Konya, Alaye surpassed Antalya as a trading and military port. In 1571 the city passed to the Ottomans. In the city shipyards for the Ottoman conquerors, warships were built that cruised through the Mediterranean Sea.

              In 1912, the following people lived in the city and the region: Turks - 32 people, Greeks - 854 people
              1. Bochik
                Bochik 10 January 2016 00: 36 New
                0
                Count it, I also know how to read Wikipedia. And if you wanted, you could also find Armenian roots in Alanya. But it’s easier to make copy-paste from Wiki than to read what you posted. In the passage torn by you there is a mention of Cilicia. Would you like to ask what it is? This is the ancient Armenian state, which belonged to the city now called Alanya. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%8F
          3. Shurik70
            Shurik70 8 January 2016 22: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72

            The map is good, but why did Kars leave Kurdistan? belay


            And for some reason half of Cyprus remained with the Turks ...
            If they begin to tear Turkey, Greece will not miss the opportunity to return all of Cyprus (the capture of which we, by the way, did not recognize by Turkey)
        2. poquello
          poquello 6 January 2016 16: 02 New
          +5
          Quote: Inok10
          Quote: Inok10
          ..in case of direct participation of Turkey .. her fate is not enviable ..

          PS: .. I will clearly illustrate for the Turks .. hi

          and what for you left her at all, and our border with Syria will be
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 6 January 2016 17: 28 New
            +9
            Quote: poquello
            and what for you left her at all, and our border with Syria will be

            And there is another prediction:
            Turkey will be divided between Russia, Greece, Armenia and Kurdistan. The bulk of the Turks will accept Orthodoxy. But Turkey will not be at all. Such a name and state formation will no longer exist so that thoughts about the Ottoman Empire are not revived.
            And since there will be a full-scale war in this region, Israel will disappear as a source of discord in the Arab countries.
            1. ver_
              ver_ 6 January 2016 18: 01 New
              -8
              ... to the article about the birds: Ivan Kalita = Yaroslav Vsevolodovich = Khan Batu founded the Vatican, Alexander Nevsky = Alexander the Great = Khan Berke - the son of Kalita ruled Macedonia and Crete, the first explorers to Crete were the Slavic tribe Rysich ... Dmitry Donskoy = Khan Toktamysh = Constantine the Great founded Constantinople, and Gaius Julius Caesar = Yuri George Dolgoruky = Genghis Khan is the elder brother of Kalita ... Etruscans = are Russians, Venice stands on stilts from Siberian larch, Orthodox crosses are carved in Egyptian pyramids ... and so on. .
              1. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 6 January 2016 21: 07 New
                -3
                "Ivan Kalita = Yaroslav Vsevolodovich = Khan Batu founded the Vatican, Alexander Nevsky = Alexander the Great = Khan Berke - the son of Kalita ruled Macedonia and Crete, the pioneers to Crete were the Slavic tribe Rysich ... Dmitry Donskoy = Khan Toktamysh = Constantine the Great founded Constantinople, and Gaius Julius Caesar = Yuri Georgy Dolgoruky = Chingiz Khan is Kalita's elder brother ... Etruscans = Russians, Venice stands on Siberian larch stilts, Orthodox crosses are carved in Egyptian pyramids ... and so on. "
                Such a normal nonsense.))) Vysotsky apparently anticipated the appearance of your moronic teaching and wrote a song about your sect.)))
                "Dear program!
                On Saturday, almost crying
                The whole Kanatchikova cottage
                I was torn to the TV.
                Instead of eating, washing,
                Prick and forget
                The whole crazy hospital
                Gathered at the screen.
                He spoke breaking his hands
                Krasnobay and balomut
                About the powerlessness of science
                Before the secret of Bermuda.
                He broke all brains into pieces,
                All gyruses are braided
                And the rope authorities
                They give us a second injection. "
                1. Mowgli
                  Mowgli 7 January 2016 09: 31 New
                  +2
                  Dear Nagaybak, you would have typed the words of the previous "speaker" normally with a quote, or else as separated, otherwise rushed to look for delirium, found, minus slapped - but no, not that.
                  Sorry, of course, but I can’t fix it anymore.
                  1. Nagaibak
                    Nagaibak 7 January 2016 18: 48 New
                    +1
                    Mowgli "I'm sorry, of course, but I can't fix it anymore."
                    Everything is fine comrade!))) Plus you from me!)))
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              3. Bochik
                Bochik 6 January 2016 21: 49 New
                +2
                Quote: ver_
                ... to the article about the birds: Ivan Kalita = Yaroslav Vsevolodovich = Khan Batu founded the Vatican, Alexander Nevsky = Alexander the Great = Khan Berke - the son of Kalita ruled Macedonia and Crete, the first explorers to Crete were the Slavic tribe Rysich ... Dmitry Donskoy = Khan Toktamysh = Constantine the Great founded Constantinople, and Gaius Julius Caesar = Yuri George Dolgoruky = Genghis Khan is the elder brother of Kalita ... Etruscans = are Russians, Venice stands on stilts from Siberian larch, Orthodox crosses are carved in Egyptian pyramids ... and so on. .

                Zadornov cries with resentment - ver_ takes away bread. And so inept, so amateurish ...
        3. dr.star75
          dr.star75 6 January 2016 16: 07 New
          +3
          Where is the Russian Turkish Republic?
          1. poquello
            poquello 6 January 2016 16: 15 New
            18
            Quote: dr.star75
            Where is the Russian Turkish Republic?

            Immediately resolved the issue of rest in domestic resorts.
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 6 January 2016 17: 16 New
            +8
            Quote: dr.star75
            Where is the Russian Turkish Republic?

            Already jumped in the republics. Enough! No Turkish republics within Russia. It will be just Russia (RF).
            1. alexng
              alexng 6 January 2016 17: 55 New
              +6
              Quote: Алексей_К
              Already jumped in the republics. Enough! No Turkish republics within Russia. It will be just Russia (RF)


              Just the Middle Sea region with several provinces. good
              1. Oldwiser
                Oldwiser 6 January 2016 20: 35 New
                0
                Black Sea Federal District
            2. ver_
              ver_ 6 January 2016 18: 08 New
              0
              ... we’ve been drunk since the Creation of the World - everyone strove to become independent ... broke off, wrote themselves an ancient history from the time of Noah and waged war on Russia, the cradle from where they all came out ..
        4. screw cutter
          screw cutter 6 January 2016 17: 20 New
          +7
          And I would give Armenia access to the sea. And not Istanbul, but Constantinople.
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 6 January 2016 17: 34 New
            +3
            Quote: screw cutter
            And I would give Armenia access to the sea. And not Istanbul, but Constantinople.

            To begin with, let the sacred for Armenians Mount ARARAT be given away, otherwise the arrogant ones throw them to the Armenians, they say, why is our Mount Ararat depicted on your Armenian coat of arms?!? The Armenians only have to answer wittily something like this: "Is there a crescent on your flag. Does it also belong to you?"
          2. MREDBEST
            MREDBEST 6 January 2016 17: 59 New
            +2
            Quote: screw cutter
            And not Istanbul, but Constantinople.

            And I would rename it to Constantinople, a good name, and more familiar to historians)))
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 6 January 2016 19: 11 New
              +4
              Quote: MREDBEST
              and more familiar to historians)))

              For Greek historians. For Rusich, Tsargrad is more familiar.
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 6 January 2016 16: 05 New
        +4
        Quote: Inok10

        ..in case of direct participation of Turkey .. its fate is not enviable .. it will be like with Poland, which has 5 sections, though it didn’t increase their mind

        Now this is not accepted, now it is "fashionable" to take control of the state as a whole. Ukraine is a classic example of this. We really managed to snatch a little bit, but how much squeal the USA and their mongrels had. So, Dear, the States will not share Turkey with anyone, but to weaken it so that it is more compliant is please.
        1. poquello
          poquello 6 January 2016 16: 21 New
          +5
          Quote: Proxima
          ... So, Dear States, they will not share Turkey with anyone, but to weaken it so that it is more accommodating - that’s please.

          and who the United States will ask, the Turkish revolution of dignity named after Mustafa Kemalievich
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 6 January 2016 16: 27 New
            +5
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: Proxima
            ... So, Dear States, they will not share Turkey with anyone, but to weaken it so that it is more accommodating - that’s please.

            and who the United States will ask, the Turkish revolution of dignity named after Mustafa Kemalievich

            I would like of course ... To throw them some Turkic revolutionaries in a sealed car ...
          2. V.ic
            V.ic 6 January 2016 17: 34 New
            0
            Quote: poquello
            named after Mustafa Kemalievich

            ... named after Mustafa Alirezaevich ... / nickname Kemal ("Perfection") http://enc-dic.com/colier/Atatjurk-mustafa-kemal-699.html /
        2. ver_
          ver_ 6 January 2016 17: 37 New
          +2
          ... well, so the states should be reformed in the same way: Alaska, the coast, where Schwartz .. governed - there were Russian settlements, part of Canada, they illegally seized them ....
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 6 January 2016 15: 46 New
      16
      So what you wanted is that; The policy of double standards in all its glory. To fuel terrorism with one hand, to pretend that these terrorists are bad, one word is a hypocrite and a hypocrite and a scoundrel, there are very few decent people in Western politics who survive in all ways. request
    4. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 6 January 2016 16: 08 New
      10
      Quote: cniza
      The author forgot to mention Turkey and their role.

      About Turkey, yes, they really forgot .. The current Ottomans are the devil. By the way, on December 28-29, the Saudis promised Erdogan investment in tens of billions of dollars. So he has them now, along with the giblets ..
      But here's what's interesting: "... the Saudis continue to hire a number of American lobbyists and PR specialists, one of them is the PR engine Edelman. The world's largest private PR agency, Edelman is known for helping clients with positive coverage in the leading media."
      Edelman, apparently, is a purely Arab surname: Al-Edelman, yeah. We don’t know much about the secret ties between Israel and KSA. For the Israelis, weakening Syria and Iran is a fixed idea. And in this their interests coincide with the Saudi ones.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 6 January 2016 16: 15 New
        0
        We don’t know much about the secret ties between Israel and KSA.
        Do they have these connections? Or all the work of conspiracy theorists. In my opinion, all Arabs for Israel, also those hemorrhoids. Israel and the Saudis, allies ?! Yes, transcendentally.
        1. Extraneous
          Extraneous 6 January 2016 16: 35 New
          +1
          Well, Jacob Kedmi has already stated in an interview that ISIS is not a threat to Israel. Is he talking about something?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 7 January 2016 23: 33 New
            0
            Daesh was created by the United States and while they are under their control it is not a threat because they are being created against us. Now, if they are left to their own devices, then Israel will receive uncontrollable crowds of armed people at the borders with whom it will have to deal with somehow.
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 6 January 2016 16: 13 New
      +1
      America is a cancerous tumor of the Planet. Where and who are the surgeons ????
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 6 January 2016 16: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        America is a cancerous tumor of the Planet. Where and who are the surgeons ????


        I don’t know about surgeons, but we can treat radiation, they say that it helps with tumors ...
        1. Proxima
          Proxima 6 January 2016 16: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          America is a cancerous tumor of the Planet. Where and who are the surgeons ????


          I don’t know about surgeons, but we can treat radiation, they say that it helps with tumors ...

          Radiation is effective! Chemotherapy is also possible. We have this whole pharmacy.
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 6 January 2016 17: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Proxima
            Chemotherapy is also possible. We have this whole pharmacy.

            The "pharmacy" you mentioned is now located at the Kambarka "training ground". They destroy the remnants of the former power.
        2. ver_
          ver_ 6 January 2016 17: 41 New
          +1
          ... mabud volcano deported them to their heights ..
      2. meriem1
        meriem1 6 January 2016 16: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        America is a cancerous tumor of the Planet. Where and who are the surgeons ????



        Nothing, nothing. Sequential therapy. Already there are shifts. Radically treat only after consultation)))
    6. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 6 January 2016 16: 43 New
      +1
      Turkey - to a lesser extent. Still, even though Erdogan Churek Shaurma departed strongly from the principles of the secular state of Ataturk, the military and intelligence would rather shoot him than let him finance and arm IS and Navsho Nusra. There "Pan-Turkism" is the purest - fascist-expansionist ideology with longing for OI - the very "Psychic on the Bosphorus" who died after WWI, support for separatists in Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Azerbaijan, post-Soviet Central Asia, which the Persians and Turks have Skobelev also cut it off.
      And so - PendoSStan will not calm down until it receives Pakistani special ammunition on a scheduled flight from Islamabad or Airyad to NY.
    7. Sharapov
      Sharapov 6 January 2016 17: 59 New
      +2
      If such articles are published in the States, then not all media outlets dance to the same tune. There is a ray in the dark kingdom ...
    8. Asadullah
      Asadullah 6 January 2016 21: 49 New
      0
      The author forgot to mention Turkey and their role.


      No, that's right. Turkey stands apart in this matter. For a long time she advertised to the Arabs the ideological and military power of her armed forces. So much so that the Saudis with Qatar offered Erdogan to pay for a military campaign against Assad. What went wrong is hidden in the tents of the camel kings. Perhaps Erdogan set conditions that were unattainable in a short period of time. Playing on this, he said neither yes nor no, but took an intermediate position in anticipation of the hour X. Then Russia suddenly intervened, from which Erdogan acted like a killer who had lost his order. From that, and the nervous reaction of smelly camels. Turkey is not a donor, Turkey is a recipient. Demanding from some, asking others and blackmailing third ones.
    9. Blondy
      Blondy 7 January 2016 00: 40 New
      +1
      Yes, the author knows the story badly, that's why he didn't notice the elephant. The Taliban are already sweating. First there was "Al Qaeda" - from the stamp in the personal file of the CIA, which means "verified" in Arabic. Hamaz was created by Israel as a counterpart to the PLO. Well, everyone who should know about the role of Saudi Arabia and other Qatars with Bahrains in feeding them knew, but they kept quiet. The big oil business loves this kind of silence. Didn't notice the elephant, perhaps, some journalists and bloggers.
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 6 January 2016 15: 38 New
    +4
    Cultivating and educating fanatics is a thankless task. The Americans raised fanatics, now chasing them around the world. KSA is considered a strong state. But nothing lasts forever on this earth. Daesh already draws a kingdom as part of his empire.
    1. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 6 January 2016 15: 39 New
      +5
      Not only ungrateful, but also dangerous. You yourself can get rid of those brought up ....
    2. 34 region
      34 region 6 January 2016 16: 35 New
      +3
      Why is the USA chasing fanatics? Loads to dump? Zealots and drug traffickers. The money from her is clearly not stored in villages and in Kishlaks. Weakening countries and driven into the Stone Age. What is the point of the United States watering fanatics? They are a solid benefit.
  3. Vek
    Vek 6 January 2016 15: 44 New
    0
    off topic, but really I don’t know who to ask .... Tell me how to send help to the DNI / LC troops? how is this done or through whom and how? Who to contact? P.S. I’m not going to help with flies, machine guns, or ammunition, only legal things. - bandages, first-aid kits, medicines, etc.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 6 January 2016 15: 55 New
      0
      Quote: vek
      Tell me how to send help to the DNI / LC troops?

      If "ASSORTED sweets" from Sudoplatov, then it is best through Potroshenko or Yaytsenyukh!
  4. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 6 January 2016 15: 46 New
    +4
    It’s significant how such an armament policy of “moderate Islamists” developed in such a way that it hit the USA
  5. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 6 January 2016 15: 47 New
    +3
    When it comes to existing speculations about efforts to counter radicalization and subsequent extremism, turns that western politicians and media outlets want to appeal to anything but long-term processes.

    The Gulf states (namely, Saudi Arabia and Qatar), whose state organizations acted as an ideological incubator in which extremist feelings flourished, became the elephant in the china shop.

    What to kick the Westerners-themselves just now began to write about it.

    Or you yourself have not seen an elephant before? Apparently, it was a pink elephant.

    Untimely article.

    .
  6. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 6 January 2016 15: 49 New
    0
    Why Russia spread rot ...? They still don’t understand what they’ve hit (Europe damn ..) Financial groups are starting a war! And we in Russia like a bone in the throat ... Because we all understand! (The essence of what is happening and for a long time already ..)))
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 6 January 2016 16: 06 New
      +3
      MIKHALYCH1, got it, God forgive me. Well, at least something original, at least once !?
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 6 January 2016 16: 10 New
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        Quote: avva2012
        MIKHALYCH1, got it, God forgive me. Well, at least something original, at least once !?

        Well ... I would certainly better explain the mats .. hi

        How I can ...
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 6 January 2016 16: 19 New
          +1
          How I can ...
          MIKHALYCH1, of course, originally, but in my opinion, in the role of a psychic, nothing at all. Avatar, not rushing. Better mats.
          1. MIKHALYCH1
            MIKHALYCH1 6 January 2016 16: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: avva2012
            How I can ...
            MIKHALYCH1, of course, originally, but in my opinion, in the role of a psychic, nothing at all. Avatar, not rushing. Better mats.

            Banned immediately .. bakery bogeyman!
            And you, something expressed.? Or just sir are you picking on me? I ask you to explain to the venerable public ..! hi
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 6 January 2016 16: 55 New
              0
              Banned immediately .. bakery bogeyman!
              And you, something expressed.? Or just sir are you picking on me?

              No offense Mikhalych, just try to break the template. Before the venerable audience, there is no reason why. As they say, "there are no stocks." From our table to yours.

        2. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 6 January 2016 16: 32 New
          +2
          Mikhalych1, do not pay attention, everyone likes your posts, but everyone is embarrassed to say it out loud :) But individual critics do not embarrass themselves in anything! Plus from the heart.
          1. MIKHALYCH1
            MIKHALYCH1 6 January 2016 16: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
            Mikhalych1, do not pay attention, everyone likes your posts, but everyone is embarrassed to say it out loud :) But individual critics do not embarrass themselves in anything! Plus from the heart.

            Thank.. hi I also write from the heart, albeit clumsily ..
          2. avva2012
            avva2012 6 January 2016 17: 11 New
            -1
            Everyone likes your posts, but everyone is embarrassed to say it out loud :)
            Yes, okay, Michael, about everyone. Here, I do not like. In my opinion, over the top. But, this is in my opinion, I do not impose my opinion. Maybe you know better.
  7. AlexTires
    AlexTires 6 January 2016 15: 49 New
    +8
    In Arabia, a unique dictatorship, all absolute power belongs to one family, this is not anywhere else in the world. And this has never happened in any country in the world. The entire cabinet is from the same family. They oppress not only Shiites, but also the majority of the Sunni population. And they blather something about the dictator Assad? Bloody usurpers must leave. In principle, the seizure of power in ISIS by ISIS would be the best decision for us, no matter how seditious and wild it sounds ...
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 6 January 2016 16: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: AlexTires
      In Arabia, a unique dictatorship, all absolute power belongs to one family, this is not anywhere else in the world. And this has never happened in any country in the world. The entire cabinet is from the same family. They oppress not only Shiites, but also the majority of the Sunni population. And they blather something about the dictator Assad? Bloody usurpers must leave. In principle, the seizure of power in ISIS by ISIS would be the best decision for us, no matter how seditious and wild it sounds ...

      Original point of view, colleague. I will not say that without an interesting one, there is not a very original one. There is only one caveat, a colleague who does not allow you to support. This nuance lies in the huge amount of modern weapons available to the Saudis, and if ISIS seizes power, which undoubtedly falls into the hands of terrorists. Well, plus huge hydrocarbon reserves, which, even at dumping prices, will allow the financing of terrorism for an indefinite number of years and territories.
      So somehow, a colleague, the truth is wild. hi
      1. 34 region
        34 region 6 January 2016 16: 50 New
        +3
        In the event of a seizure of weapons and deposits, a slave system will be established there. Spirits are slaves today. They fight for the religion of something and for the ration of food and dose. They will work the same way. I don’t think that drivers of oil tankers are swimming in money. And such a system will sell oil at a price lower than transportation. Is it bad for an economy to have cheap resources? And most likely they plan to buy one buyer, the United States. It will be bad for Russia. Our price will be higher. So think after that. Why are there so many weapons? Yes, so that strangers would not climb. A small rehearsal of such a scenario is Turkey today. NATO member doesn't support spirits? Is USA Concerned About Turkey? The United States has expressed concern about the bombing of our air forces. So who is fighting the terrorists and who is fighting the terrorists?
      2. SklochPensioner
        SklochPensioner 6 January 2016 16: 58 New
        +2
        "... seizure of power in Arabia by ISIS would be the best decision for us, no matter how seditious and wild it sounds ..."

        Alex, apparently, meant: And slam all of these spiders at once, legally! laughing
    2. avva2012
      avva2012 6 January 2016 16: 09 New
      +8
      In Arabia, a unique dictatorship, all absolute power belongs to one family, this is not anywhere else in the world.
      In the United States, his son Bush replaced his father Bush. Now, going to Olympus, another Bush. In the world, there is no absolute power?
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 6 January 2016 16: 30 New
        +8
        a guy in a light suit is the Prime Minister of Canada from 68 to 79, like the years of the last century, and that kid that under his arm is his son, the current Prime Minister of Canada ...
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 6 January 2016 16: 57 New
          0
          Plus, another plus! Apparently, this is Putin? belay
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 6 January 2016 15: 53 New
    +1
    America has been snapping up Saudi Arabia for many years, and that one, having rabid petrodollars, has sponsored and is sponsoring scumbags around the world. And if you turn it into a desert? Maybe problems will decrease everywhere, including oil prices. What are not state interests? Benefits, pensions and so on ..
  9. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 6 January 2016 15: 56 New
    +2
    Ay-ay. "will only be hypocrisy, blindness in the Persian Gulf ...". Fuck through the wattle fence. It is already clear to any goat in any Russian village in the pasture that the bourgeois-states-Saudis (they found each other!) Need liposuction, figuratively speaking. It's time to put the scent in place for the cats, obese on someone else's freebies. Until all the slippers in the House were pissed off, figuratively, again.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 January 2016 15: 57 New
    +2
    Matrasia pursues its interests. The way she understands them. It is so big and fat that it ceased to notice how Camelbackers from CA and Qatar use it, Janissaries from Ankara, and many quite nimble and sneaky ... It reminds us of the times of the USSR. It was worth some African cannibal to declare that he would lead his subjects along the path of building socialism - and he was guaranteed military, humanitarian and financial assistance. For the striated hegemon - these magic words are democracy and freedom. Well, history does not teach anyone.
  11. dr.star75
    dr.star75 6 January 2016 16: 02 New
    0
    All these arabia are an echo of the SGA’s decision or nothing more.
  12. vobels
    vobels 6 January 2016 16: 22 New
    +1
    "..terrorist attacks in the West will only become more frequent ..." And this one doesn't care: they kill people, and money flows.
  13. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 6 January 2016 16: 50 New
    +1
    Sow the wind - reap the storm.

    While the Amerasts will clog the field of international relations with the tares of terrorism, which they, in fact, have been doing for the past 100500 years, the terrorists will exist not in the form of breaks, but in the form of ISIS.

    If the former can be caught, the latter have to be bombarded with missiles.

    If ameroids consider themselves the center of the earth, then I suggest that they (in full accordance with THEIR traditions) sit on the Earth’s axis with their anus. laughing
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 6 January 2016 18: 01 New
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      Quote: Gormengast
      100500 last years

      Then name a satellite (satellite) revolving around its "host" in 21 hours and 11 minutes, by the years of which you measured the time of existence of SsyNiA?
      1. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 6 January 2016 20: 06 New
        +1
        Stopitsot years, the Internet is the equivalent of a very large number. smile

        I admit that the ancient Romans did not have such overseas problems (such as the introduction of democracy per anus) like us. laughing

        And the US has more satellites than Jupiter. The most famous example is Canada, which is unknown for any merit in the G-7 or 8. It is Canada, together with its top partner, who repeatedly votes against anti-fascist UN resolutions. am
  14. Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 6 January 2016 16: 57 New
    +5
    USA is the most important terrorist ...
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 6 January 2016 22: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Ivan Ivanovich
      USA is the most important terrorist ...

      Against the background of the mattress flag, your comment looks very original. good
  15. atamankko
    atamankko 6 January 2016 17: 34 New
    +1
    For American politicians, the words "honor and conscience" are abusive.
  16. Awaz
    Awaz 6 January 2016 17: 51 New
    +4
    Guys, I’ll repeat once again that the USA is a tail ... the dog is England and she and she alone shkodit around the world. The Middle East is their colony and they rule the ball there. US actions are all bullshit. I sometimes even feel sorry for them. Yes, these are chain dogs, but these are dogs of the British crown ... All the threat to peace comes from there. As long as London is not flooded with the whole brethren gathered there, we will fight with each other
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 6 January 2016 17: 58 New
      0
      Quote: AwaZ
      Guys, I’ll repeat once again that the USA is a tail ... the dog is England and she and she alone shkodit around the world. The Middle East is their colony and they rule the ball there. US actions are all bullshit. I sometimes even feel sorry for them. Yes, these are chain dogs, but these are dogs of the British crown ... All the threat to peace comes from there. As long as London is not flooded with the whole brethren gathered there, we will fight with each other


      Yes, not London, the Netherlands for some reason constantly historically pops up. Well, so they are the first candidates for flooding, in the light of the warming of the oceans ...
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 6 January 2016 18: 02 New
        +3
        if a little slack around London, the Netherlands will drown too ... I perceive this as a passing operation
  17. cap
    cap 6 January 2016 19: 36 New
    +1
    “The Saudis continue to hire a number of American lobbyists and PR specialists, one of them is the Edelman PR engine. The world's largest private PR agency, Edelman is known for helping clients get positive coverage from leading media outlets. ”
    Here are some of them in particular:
    "Take that (image-building efforts) out of the media that covers politics. Take that off the front page and move it to the business section or other pages. There are good days and bad days in politics, while other materials can be a daily stream of good news "," There are absolutely fantastic elements in the American image "- urging the US government to rely on these aspects when working with foreign audiences."
    “The world undoubtedly sees us leading the way in entertainment, technology and medicine, but the world is wondering if we are listening to it and trying to impose our values ​​and standards on it: capitalism, the free market. I don't think they ( in the world) they want it, and I don't think they all need it, "said the master of American PR, who has signed contracts to improve the image with a number of states, including Israel and the United States.
    Further it is already possible to agree with the author Hassan Hafid:
    “However, we still need to see if Western governments will reconsider their position regarding allies in the Middle East. If they continue to give them impunity, it will mean that any efforts to seriously take on extremists will be only hypocrisy, but it is their citizens who will continue to pay for governments that stubbornly deny the ideological roots of extremism. ”
    It seems like no matter how hard it tries Mr. Richard Edelman(on a photo) to offer both to improve the image, the heads of the hostages are cut from all sides. And the end is not visible. It’s good that Putin is not to blame. hi
  18. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 6 January 2016 20: 57 New
    +7
    Like that)))
  19. Violamuza
    Violamuza 7 January 2016 00: 41 New
    0
    The elephant is the emblem of the Republican Party in the United States. In this context, the "elephant in the china shop" looks very funny)
  20. 76rtbr
    76rtbr 7 January 2016 03: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Region 34
    Where will we put them and how to feed them?

    and they fed us ??? let them run to hohland, it has long been waiting for Europe !!!
  21. Olegater
    Olegater 7 January 2016 04: 23 New
    0
    I slightly disagree with the title of the article. It is more correct to write "USA, Gulf Countries and Europe = terrorism" and there is nothing new here. Sponsors in plain sight: y are spills, and lice and Israel are in charge of all this disgrace. Well, what's not clear here. Even the Turks and those executors of the order from these puppeteers. Nothing new under the sun - it is necessary to destroy the region, please hire abreks or order the weakest to do their will. Now their hypocrisy, of the above, is off the charts, so they have to do everything with someone else's hands and feet, and they themselves seem to be on the sidelines. And before the strong side took swords, bows and itself conquered territory.