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MP: penalties for the direct perpetrators of the attacks and their accomplices can be equalized

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The complicity of terrorists in the Russian Federation can be equated by public danger to the facts of the terrorist act itself, reports RIA News the message of the member of the Duma security committee Anatoly Vyborny.


MP: penalties for the direct perpetrators of the attacks and their accomplices can be equalized


A package of bills containing such an amendment was recently introduced to the State Duma.

“The law will create conditions under which it will be unsafe to help terrorists. If earlier complicity was not punished as an act of terrorist attack itself, then with the new law, everyone helping food, money and other things to terrorists will have the same responsibility with terrorists ”,
told the deputy.

The document also proposes to keep terrorists and their accomplices separate from other convicts, “in order to exclude recruitment”.

“We analyzed the activities of individual groups of terrorists and found that very often the terrorists, getting into prison, begin to agitate their cellmates, thus introducing them to the ideas of the terrorist underground. We see the solution to this problem in the complete isolation of terrorists in solitary cells, ”Vyborny explained.

Bills will be considered by parliamentarians in the spring session.
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  1. OlegV
    OlegV 29 December 2015 10: 28 New
    +7
    Bills will be considered by parliamentarians in the spring session.

    Well, of course, it doesn’t burn, because .... in a hurry.
    Yes, and NG holidays on the nose, what kind of consideration and adoption of bills.

    all thoughts are already working in a different direction, tired ... you need to rest.
    1. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 29 December 2015 11: 24 New
      +2
      I also propose to consider all state corrupt officials, especially in the defense sphere, as accomplices of terrorists. As undermining the combat readiness of anti-terrorist forces. And there, along with 13 ti room apartments and trousers.
    2. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 29 December 2015 11: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: OlegV
      all thoughts are already working in a different direction, tired ... you need to rest.

      For more than 20 years, they've been chewing snot, it won’t come to the point that the difference between those who plant the bomb and those who for the "bombers" scouts the territory, harbors it, and so on!
      1. Eragon
        Eragon 29 December 2015 13: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        Quote: OlegV
        all thoughts are already working in a different direction, tired ... you need to rest.

        For more than 20 years, they've been chewing snot, it won’t come to the point that the difference between those who plant the bomb and those who for the "bombers" scouts the territory, harbors it, and so on!

        Assistant should be given more than the terrorists themselves - they are their support and roots, and there is no need to talk about innocence - I knew - fed - helped - it means no less guilty. maybe more than the terrorist himself. He committed the attack and died, and that *** that helped - lives and lives, and helps prepare the next terrorist attacks.
      2. Eragon
        Eragon 29 December 2015 13: 42 New
        0
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        Quote: OlegV
        all thoughts are already working in a different direction, tired ... you need to rest.

        For more than 20 years, they've been chewing snot, it won’t come to the point that the difference between those who plant the bomb and those who for the "bombers" scouts the territory, harbors it, and so on!

        Assistant should be given more than the terrorists themselves - they are their support and roots, and there is no need to talk about innocence - I knew - fed - helped - it means no less guilty. maybe more than the terrorist himself. He committed the attack and died, and that *** that helped - lives and lives, and helps prepare the next terrorist attacks.
    3. sisa29
      sisa29 29 December 2015 11: 44 New
      +1
      They still have time, there are a bunch of more important things !!!
  2. fox21h
    fox21h 29 December 2015 10: 29 New
    11
    In general, I don’t understand why they should be kept, to bang during detention and that’s all, otherwise there are problems with campaigning, etc., nonsense.
    Maybe this is not conventional, but I consider terrorists to be lawless, and you need to do the same with them, and not breed a nurse, that’s why he did it, he probably had a difficult childhood. At that moment, when he was going to kill people, no matter for what reason, in my eyes he ceases to be a man.
    1. Gorynovich
      Gorynovich 29 December 2015 10: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: fox21h
      In general, I don’t understand why they should be kept, to bang during detention and that’s all, otherwise there are problems with campaigning, etc., nonsense.

      So we have "a humane society, tolerance and universal values" (c) - their mother!
    2. Hubun
      Hubun 29 December 2015 10: 35 New
      +1
      I agree with you and the deputy
    3. AlexTires
      AlexTires 29 December 2015 10: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: fox21h
      In general, I don’t understand why they should be kept, to bang during detention and that’s all, otherwise there are problems with campaigning, etc., nonsense.

      I would not agree, because from live performers you can get information about the entire chain of those involved in the attacks ... If they resist, then yes, destroy ... if you can take alive, then you need to take ... here in first place the question arises of the use of the death penalty against them ... here, I even agree with the Communists that the IC is needed ...
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 29 December 2015 10: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: AlexTires
        here, I agree even with the Communists that the IC is needed ...

        Navy will not be restored while Russia is in PACE. It is the political curtsy towards the Council of Europe that is the moratorium on the death penalty. Since the question now arises of the appropriateness of the membership of the Russian Federation in such international organizations, there is an opinion that the return of capital punishment for certain categories of criminal offenses will nevertheless follow. Art. 205 of the Criminal Code, this applies in the first place.
      2. FIREMAN
        FIREMAN 29 December 2015 10: 55 New
        +3
        I am with you uv. AlexTires agree only partially, when they delay, the "chain" is, as a rule, already untwisted to the maximum possible, if this is not dictated by the real possibility of acts on their part. The initiator always determines the nature of the actions during the detention, the necessity, and possible consequences for the special forces and civilians with armed resistance. In .. SB are not fools before giving the command "FAS!" there they will think 100 times. Detention is 1-5% of all work.
      3. Revolver
        Revolver 29 December 2015 11: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: AlexTires
        from live performers you can get information about the whole chain of terrorist attacks

        Thermorectal cryptanalysis is a thing that works reliably and quickly. But this is bad luck - somehow it’s intolerant of this, but because the approach to business is carried out on the samples of Western humanism. It seems they carry the west over the bumps for any reason, and even without a reason, but without looking back at it they can’t.
        Quote: AlexTires
        here the question of the use of the death penalty against them comes first
        More executions, good and different, and preferably public. So that the terrorists know: those who, during the investigation, behave correctly, hang neatly and effortlessly. And who portrays an unbroken fighter for the ideas of jihad (well, or any other terrorist idea), for those prepared a stake.
        1. FIREMAN
          FIREMAN 29 December 2015 11: 06 New
          +2
          Thermorectal cryptanalysis - a thing that works reliably and quickly

          Do not think that they stand on ceremony while the survivors of the assault go to ..SB for interrogation, hardly. This is one of the ways to talk "heart to heart" later, but sometimes a cup of coffee and a cigarette do much more.
          More executions, good and different, and preferably public. So that the terrorists know: those who, during the investigation, behave correctly, hang neatly and effortlessly.

          I completely agree with you, but the moratorium is to blame for everything, in order to cancel it, you need a referendum. That’s why it’s easier not to take alive.
    4. Panabebis
      Panabebis 29 December 2015 11: 19 New
      +1
      bang on detention and that's it

      Why in custody? By law (by court). Only this all-Russian referendum is needed on the adoption of the death penalty for terrorism and aiding. But then it makes no sense to talk about it ...
  3. pv1005
    pv1005 29 December 2015 10: 34 New
    +3
    “Jokers” with their fake messages about planted bombs should also be added there. And to give them only real terms (and not fines and correctional labor) without the right to parole and amnesty for the holiday, so that at another time it would be nice to "joke".
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 29 December 2015 11: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: pv1005
      And to give them only real terms (and not fines and correctional labor) without the right to parole and amnesty for the holiday, so that at another time it would be nice to "joke".

      You're not right. A costing should be prepared taking into account possible / actual / losses, taking into account the lost profit and presented for payment in 5 or 10 times the cost of the calculation. Present by court order. C / z 5-10 years so-called "telephone terrorism will come to naught."
      1. pv1005
        pv1005 29 December 2015 11: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: V.ic
        Quote: pv1005
        And to give them only real terms (and not fines and correctional labor) without the right to parole and amnesty for the holiday, so that at another time it would be nice to "joke".

        You're not right. A costing should be prepared taking into account possible / actual / losses, taking into account the lost profit and presented for payment in 5 or 10 times the cost of the calculation. Present by court order. C / z 5-10 years so-called "telephone terrorism will come to naught."

        One does not contradict the other. Let them also pay for the "pleasure"
  4. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 29 December 2015 10: 34 New
    -2
    It is necessary to keep terrorists in solitary confinement, located one above the other with a hole for needs, while the upper feed more.
  5. AlexTires
    AlexTires 29 December 2015 10: 34 New
    +1
    I think that the consideration of draft laws will take a long time, it’s worth remembering how many copies break down in the State Duma within the limits of necessary self-defense ... Here the same thing can happen, because the term “aiding” should have clear legal definitions / criteria that will not just be defined with reference to to terrorism. Otherwise, they can simply write as accomplices who have looked after "things" ....
  6. Rosty
    Rosty 29 December 2015 10: 38 New
    +1
    No, they must be kept. Like a zoo, with cell reports. And with all those who planned, implemented, knew but did not communicate, etc. Guantanamo reports are annoying, but they work.
  7. atamankko
    atamankko 29 December 2015 10: 39 New
    +3
    As long as there are liberal laws, crime will only grow.
  8. Support
    Support 29 December 2015 10: 43 New
    +1
    It is also necessary to punish all the relatives of a terrorist up to the 7th knee so that the pancake is not disgraceful. And the apple does not fall far from the apple tree, so we will not miss it. If one is rotten, then all the others are the same rotten.
  9. Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 29 December 2015 10: 43 New
    +2
    Repentance is needed for those who can rethink and abandon the hyena of terror. Their example may resonate with other accomplices and condolences.
    Of course, this applies primarily to terrorist attacks that have not yet been committed.
    Killers like Breivik kept in prison for life - a perversion of the principles of humanity.
    Even more insanely perceived is the fact that the relatives of his victims actually pay for a comfortable guesthouse of the killer ...
  10. Rosty
    Rosty 29 December 2015 10: 44 New
    0
    Quote: AlexTires
    I think that the consideration of draft laws will take a long time, it’s worth remembering how many copies break down in the State Duma within the limits of necessary self-defense ... Here the same thing can happen, because the term “aiding” should have clear legal definitions / criteria that will not just be defined with reference to to terrorism. Otherwise, they can simply write as accomplices who have looked after "things" ....


    We have good laws. Here is a law enforcement practice ... Baltic States - acquisition of short-barreled weapons is allowed, a year later the number of dangerous crimes has been halved. Laws are one to one with ours in self-defense. Judicial practice is completely different!
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 29 December 2015 11: 12 New
      +1
      In principle, something must be done with absurdity in judicial practice, but on the other hand, a number of such cases arise due to a misinterpretation of the norm, or the situational need for one or another interpretation .... regarding self-defense - is generally absurd .. .
    2. good7
      good7 29 December 2015 11: 47 New
      +2
      In the Baltic states, some pensioners remained, the rest were dumped in England for work, from the population of the Baltic states and a small percentage of Russian non-citizens consider it to be mono-ethnic! “Peace-loving” Africans have only now begun to be imported, and I am more than sure that the number of crimes will increase many times soon!
  11. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 29 December 2015 11: 13 New
    -2
    It is clear that the UK will not be canceled.
    Isolate? Can! But there is a period when he is in jail, forwarding.
    I think that this contingent has terrorists, the psyche is completely disturbed. Can recognize them mentally abnormal and in a psychiatric hospital, for life. To the complete love and tenderness of orderlies.

    You can think of anything. But the tougher the punishment. The more there will be martyrs. Because it will be a priority to kill yourself for the death of infidels than to end your life in a mental hospital or in a cell.
    Especially about suicide bombers .... then they have a rather rich history. This is not just stoned ub-lu-d-ki. This is a whole caste, Parenting, Lifestyle, Followers.
    The first suicide bombers can be considered Assassins in the XI century in Persia. Their leader Hassan ibn Sabbah instructed his followers to kill high-ranking "sinners", and the Assassins were ready to sacrifice their lives for this.

    So the question is much deeper and more serious than the deputy thinks. I’m generally afraid when our deputies begin to "think" and pass "laws"
    IMHO hi
    1. good7
      good7 29 December 2015 11: 29 New
      +1
      Basically, suicide bombings always carry out attacks, since the chance of success is higher. But I do not agree with you in the USSR there were strict laws and there was no such mess! And you need to listen to them bibs! If he knows that the death penalty awaits him, he will not become involved with this idiocy! In the desert where terrorism comes from and now cruel laws with chopping off heads and other things, so there are reasons!
      1. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 29 December 2015 12: 33 New
        -1
        good7
        Basically, suicide bombings always carry out attacks, since the chance of success is higher. But I do not agree with you in the USSR there were strict laws and there was no such mess! And you need to listen to them bibs! If he knows that the death penalty awaits him, he will not become involved with this idiocy! In the desert where terrorism comes from and now cruel laws with chopping off heads and other things, so there are reasons!

        What a people! They only comment on what's convenient! Just to say! Under the USSR, there was another life, and people had different thinking! Do not give the USSR as an example!
        Well, they will introduce the death penalty? So what! Will they solve the problem of terrorism?
        - They’re not mistaken while they caught the real Chikatilo .... 17 people were shot. And each time by court order. There are no people! Well, at least it was justified, but how did the families live before that?
        -And when the death penalty was introduced for the rape of minors, what happened? The rapists after their deeds began to kill the victims.
        Well, now think about how many chances there will be to save the hostages if the terrorists know that death is anyway?
        If he knows that the death penalty awaits him, he will not become involved with this idiocy!

        It’s necessary to think of such a thing! You will be Bo-bo! And they decided it ain't good and they will no longer be! I have not heard a more idiotic statement.
        Before you write and minus, you need to think at least a bit of what is above and not below!
        To tighten the punishment is possible and necessary! But SK is not an option! Evil committed even for the good - creates evil. Each shot, becomes a new idol for these ghouls! The Israeli experience, that he eradicated terrorism - no!
        This is not a war on the battlefield.
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  12. aziatt
    aziatt 29 December 2015 11: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Nagan
    Quote: AlexTires
    from live performers you can get information about the whole chain of terrorist attacks

    Thermorectal cryptanalysis is a thing that works reliably and quickly. But this is bad luck - somehow it’s intolerant of this, but because the approach to business is carried out on the samples of Western humanism. It seems they carry the west over the bumps for any reason, and even without a reason, but without looking back at it they can’t.
    Quote: AlexTires
    here the question of the use of the death penalty against them comes first
    More executions, good and different, and preferably public. So that the terrorists know: those who, during the investigation, behave correctly, hang neatly and effortlessly. And who portrays an unbroken fighter for the ideas of jihad (well, or any other terrorist idea), for those prepared a stake.


    What does this mean? soldering iron in the ass chtoli ?.
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 December 2015 11: 32 New
    +2
    penalties for direct perpetrators of terrorist attacks and their accomplices can be equalized

    This had to be done yesterday. By the way, R. Kadyrov offered a very good response for relatives and accomplices of terrorists, but he was accused of all the grave homegrown “human rights defenders”.
  14. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 29 December 2015 11: 37 New
    0
    A terrorist at the inquiry can tell that they fed him there, put him to sleep there, showed him the way there ... and he will list half the country.
    Aiding must be punished, but will have to prove, and this is a long and scrupulous business.
    1. Rosty
      Rosty 29 December 2015 11: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Al_oriso
      A terrorist at the inquiry can tell that they fed him there, put him to sleep there, showed him the way there ... and he will list half the country.
      Aiding must be punished, but will have to prove, and this is a long and scrupulous business.


      It is necessary. Be sure to! Otherwise, a tail beating is obtained. Someone financed the performers, someone trained, someone provided transport and housing. Responsibility should be at least the same. And without restrictions on the whereabouts of the suspects. (There is no way to bring to the investigator - an ice ax as a gift)
  15. Major_Vortex
    Major_Vortex 29 December 2015 11: 42 New
    0
    All the same, Obama and his accomplices from the Middle East and NATO countries will not be attracted, the main collaborators of world terrorism have diplomatic immunity. A small bipod will be attached.
  16. Cobra77
    Cobra77 29 December 2015 16: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: USSR 1971
    I also propose to consider all state corrupt officials, especially in the defense sphere, as accomplices of terrorists. As undermining the combat readiness of anti-terrorist forces. And there, along with 13 ti room apartments and trousers.


    Eeee, you do not hold it together! :) Ish you on "svoih" to encroach. Herod! The system has long forgiven everyone. And that’s it.

    But seriously, bees versus honey or what? That does not happen. The Oboronservis case showed everything very clearly, so to speak, dotted all E. If there could still be illusions, then there is no more.
  17. Cobra77
    Cobra77 29 December 2015 16: 20 New
    -1
    Quote: fox21h
    In general, I don’t understand why they should be kept, to bang during detention and that’s all, otherwise there are problems with campaigning, etc., nonsense.
    Maybe this is not conventional, but I consider terrorists to be lawless, and you need to do the same with them, and not breed a nurse, that’s why he did it, he probably had a difficult childhood. At that moment, when he was going to kill people, no matter for what reason, in my eyes he ceases to be a man.



    And the terrorist on his forehead says that he is a terrorist? Or like in that joke about Stirlitz, where nothing was betrayed by a Soviet intelligence officer in him, neither a parachute from behind, nor a budennovka on his head. We kind of try to live by the law. With a court, a lawyer, proof of guilt. Because, as an alternative to this, the lawlessness of the state is already, more precisely, sovereign people. Well, let's do our Guantanamo. What are we then criticizing the amers with their unmanned sentences and carpet democracy? And then under the terrorist, you can easily anyone who said something wrong or opposed to fail. Efficiency against terrorism is, first and foremost, a good job. services and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. From the fact that there will be shooting at the first suspicion of terrorism, the number and quality of terrorists will not change. Do not make the medicine worse than the disease.
  18. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 30 December 2015 07: 16 New
    0
    Cobra77
    And the terrorist on his forehead says that he is a terrorist? Or like in that joke about Stirlitz, where nothing was betrayed by a Soviet intelligence officer in him, neither a parachute from behind, nor a budennovka on his head. We kind of try to live by the law. With a court, a lawyer, proof of guilt. Because as an alternative to this the lawlessness of the state is already, more precisely, sovereign people. Well let's do our Guantanamo

    Konstantin! hi
    I agree about Guantanamo! And all the screamers there too. In a couple of days, they will all sign a confession to heaven. The Lord will make out there. who is who, the innocent will regret.
    Here, probably, many people think that terrorists are marching with harmonica and flags!
    Efficiency against terrorism is, first and foremost, a good job. services and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

    And this is generally to the point itself. What is better to prevent than to allow.
    But many people don’t understand that if prevented, the article will be like preparation, not accomplishment.
    But then .... It turns out ..... Everyone who requires an unconditional UK - does not support crime prevention (terrorist act) .... But they support its commission just to execute the terrorist.
    Well, Ah, if a martyr kid is an 14-16 kid or a synukha 16-20 who has no brains, but what is there is tricked into another marinade .... they are also on the guillotine.
    Or maybe it's the fault of those who allowed this - and not just family. A state that does not engage in ideological work to the extent necessary that will protect young people from this zombie? But then the State is an indirect accomplice so what? Or selective justice will begin.
    Hatred of terrorists is understandable and I share it. But for some reason everyone wants to pass laws on severe punishment (I share, but within the framework of a reasonable and justified). But for some reason none of the deputies, and even here on the site, does not say that anyone needs to adopt laws on education! I do not know how it is now, but under the USSR, the most important thing was the prevention of an offense.