The end of the Turkish freemen in Abkhazia?

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Today, December 29 Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation Vladislav Surkov begins his visit to the Republic of Abkhazia. The central event of the visit of Vladislav Surkov will be his personal meeting with Abkhaz President Raul Khadzhimba. The official bill of the visit is the integration of the two countries, an increase in commodity turnover, the implementation of economic projects, including the restoration of the republic’s transport system, which was seriously affected by the Tbilisi aggression.

From the official report Press Service of the President of Abkhazia:
During the visit, meetings of the Assistant to the President of Russia with President of the Republic of Abkhazia Raul Khadzhimba, Speaker of the National Assembly Valery Bganba and Prime Minister Artur Mikvabiya are scheduled.

The visit’s agenda includes discussion of issues of bilateral cooperation in the light of the implementation of the Treaty between the Republic of Abkhazia and the Russian Federation on alliance and strategic partnership.


The end of the Turkish freemen in Abkhazia?


However, the visit has an informal subtext. And given that Surkov’s personality in our country (as it happened) is shrouded in a very peculiar aura, then numerous Russian political scientists decided to practice the prediction of the nature of the informal negotiations.
So, the day before in an interview with an information agency Interfax Alexei Chesnakov, director of the political conjuncture, said that adviser to Vladimir Putin, who has a wealth of experience in political (including foreign policy) activities, is arriving in Sukhum to make a special offer to the authorities of Abkhazia. This is a proposal to support official Sukhum imposed economic sanctions imposed on Turkey by the Russian Federation.

It is worth noting that on Monday 28 December, Vladimir Putin signed a renewed “sanction” decree that introduces new restrictive measures against the Turkish Republic. In particular, we are talking about the fact that all those companies in which Turkish capital is present to one degree or another are now under Russian sanctions.

In this regard, it is indeed possible to assume that the visit of Vladislav Surkov to the President of the Republic of Abkhazia is connected precisely with the measures of economic impact in relation to Turkish “partners”. The fact is that almost all companies operating in Abkhazia, one way or another connected with Russian financial investments. Either they are registered under Russian jurisdiction by Russian citizens. Moreover, in the republic financial transactions are conducted on the basis of using the Russian ruble. So, if there is Turkish participation in them, too, then they fall under the sanctions. But Turkish participation is very much ...

The position of Turkish business is very strong in Abkhazia. If you believe the statistics, then about 18% of the republic’s foreign trade falls on Turkey. One of the leading areas of cooperation is the construction industry and fisheries. Moreover, this fishing is carried out by Turkish fishing vessels. Approximately 80% of fish caught in the waters of Abkhazia, namely the Turkish "part".

Just a couple of days before the information that an adviser to the Russian president was sent to Abkhazia, information appeared on the presence of the Russian fishing fleets in Abkhaz waters. First of all, this concerns the receipt of fishing quotas by Russian fishing vessels in the marine economic zone of the Republic of Abkhazia. Attention is drawn to the fact that until now, Abkhazia has not allocated quotas for fishing by Russian companies.

During the press conference held on December 25 in Moscow, the head of the Federal Agency for Fishery, Ilya Shestakov, said this:
After January 10 (2016) our vessels will go fishing, we agreed to allocate a quota of 15%, but according to our capabilities we can provide a catch of up to 60-70% of fish caught in the Abkhazia zone. But there are a number of problems related to the fact that almost all the fish that was previously harvested by Turkish vessels was supplied to flour mills in Abkhazia, which were owned by citizens of Abkhazia and Turkey, and the purchase price of this fish was low. For our fishermen, this is not an appropriate option, since the costs are quite large. We agreed with the Abkhaz leadership on pricing opportunities so that the price was the one that suits.


According to preliminary data, about 6 thousand tons of fish (mainly Khamsova) can now be realized in Russian ports. These are the 15% quota mentioned. If the quota reaches 60-70% under conditions that are suitable for Russian fishermen, then Turkish “partners” will have to leave this segment of the Black Sea, which will lead to tens of millions of dollars in losses for Turkish companies. But at the same time, Russia, naturally, needs to take into account the interests of Abkhazia itself.

However, not only the “Turkish issue” can be discussed in, if I may say so, the informal context of the meeting of Vladislav Surkov with the Abkhaz leadership. There is, after all, a much more acute question for the same Abkhazia: the issue of relations with Georgia. The fact is that many Abkhazians, including those living in Russia, as they say, have become tense when they heard the answer of Russian President Vladimir Putin to a Georgian journalist during a big press conference. It must be recalled: Vladimir Putin then declared that, in principle, he was ready to consider in the near future the question of the possible abolition of the visa regime with Georgia, and also that he would take "any choice of the Abkhaz (and South Ossetian) people" in terms of restoring relations with Georgia . The Abkhaz have perceived such statements, to put it mildly, ambiguous. People remained at a loss: either President Putin is cunning, or he is really ready to follow the path of rapprochement with Georgia at the expense of some “ambiguous ideas” on the same status of Abkhazia ...

Apparently, Vladislav Surkov is faced with the task of explaining to the Abkhaz leadership the situation in this direction as well. And it will be necessary to explain against the background of an interesting fact: since Abkhazia became an independent state, foreign “investors” have significantly increased support for Georgian non-governmental organizations, for which the slogan “Georgian-Abkhaz friendship has become stronger day by day”. Despite the fact, for obvious reasons this slogan and its derivatives in Abkhazia cause a gag reflex, Western “friends” do not see a reason to curtail the support programs for specialized (read - anti-Russian) NPOs. The British Society of Reconciliation Resources and the so-called International Alert have intensified their activities, through which tens of millions of dollars are being pumped in an effort to weaken the pro-Russian attitude of Abkhazia. For obvious reasons, there is also a Turkish interest in supporting NGOs working on this kind of weakening and at the same time on Georgia’s admission to NATO. It is quite clear that if there is even a hint that Russia avoids the problems and aspirations of Abkhazia and its people (a considerable number of which, by the way, are Russian citizens), then this will become a wormhole of the Russian outpost in the South Caucasus. And to lose outposts in the current conditions (and indeed) is by definition inadmissible.
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  1. +16
    29 December 2015 06: 52
    "Georgian-Abkhaz friendship is growing day by day."


    Yeah, friendship with jackals from GEORGIA in the understanding of SAAKASHVILI led ABKHAZIA and SOUTH OSSETIA to a tragedy ... the second time this number will not work.
    Eight years of the real independence of these republics from GEORGIA is like a vaccination against rabies of the insanity of the Georgian leadership.
    The Turks, of course, quietly intermeddle in this region in the hope of establishing their influence there ... well, this is not new and predictable.
    1. +1
      29 December 2015 11: 44
      They have had real independence for over twenty years.
    2. +4
      29 December 2015 12: 48
      And for Russia24 a running line: South Ossetia will hold a referendum on joining the Russian Federation until April 2017.
      I think that Abkhazia will hold about the same.
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    4. +1
      29 December 2015 21: 38
      Abkhazians are historically Turkoman and not any Georgians. Now the estate of Surkov. Who would not know. From Abkhazia we need a naval base for the military, beaches with dear girls for bribe takers and tangerines for the people. And hamsa (thick sprat) is, it seems, from Surkov’s business. laughing
  2. +6
    29 December 2015 07: 12
    Abkhazians with Ossetians, remember, the first "democratic" Georgia. Therefore, it is unlikely that they will ever agree to a "reunion". Perhaps the President, speaking about the "visa-free regime", etc., was really cunning. Slightly intimidated to make it easier for the republics to refuse cooperation with Turkey?
    1. +2
      29 December 2015 11: 56
      Quote: avva2012
      Perhaps the President, speaking about the "visa-free regime", etc., was really cunning.


      What visa-free regime can we talk about with a state that is full of hatred of Russia, eager for NATO and the EU, which helped the Mujahideen in the first and second Chechen ???

      I'm not talking about 08.08.08, when Georgia committed an attack on the day when all the wars in the world should at least stop, on the day of the opening of the Beijing Olympics ...

      And how many people will go to rest in the same Georgia instead of Turkey ???
      1. 0
        29 December 2015 23: 15
        What visa-free regime can be talked about with a state that is full of hatred for Russia

        the state cannot be filled with hatred, the state is a legal entity. There are different people in it, politicians and not so. Ordinary people do not feel hatred for Russia and Russian. Somewhere it even flickered that the Russian language was being introduced back into education.
        Politicians are another matter. Nobody says that there are no contradictions, but it is better to concentrate on what unites, rather than divides.
  3. +20
    29 December 2015 07: 13
    I am only for strengthening relations with Abkhazia, but have they tried to do something with their own hands? Half of Abkhazia lies in the ruins of twenty years ago, and no one is going to either dismantle the rubble or repair the destroyed (which will be difficult - it is easier to demolish and rebuild after so many years of exposure to natural factors), or build a new one. It is clear that the territory is large, there are few people, and money is also sparse. But it’s enough to look at the cars, which are famously dissecting across Abkhazia and neighboring Sochi, reaching both Krasnodar and Moscow, as it becomes clear - there is money, just in the wrong hands, in other words, you don’t need to steal so much.
    It was hoped that under Khajimba something would change, but so far it did not seem. You can’t go far on tourism and tangerines alone.
    1. AFS
      +17
      29 December 2015 08: 18
      Quote: inkass_98
      I am only for strengthening relations with Abkhazia, but have they tried to do something with their own hands?

      You joked? They never worked.
      Quote: inkass_98
      But just look at the cars, which famously cut through Abkhazia itself and neighboring Sochi,

      There customs clearance is cheap. So driving, mainly from Germany.

      And about the article I can say. My friend lives in Abkhazia. So he said a month ago that the Turks are urgently "merging" the business. Stores sold everything for half the price.
    2. +35
      29 December 2015 08: 18
      2inkass_98
      I have been to Abkhazia many times, after the war. Yes, a lot of things have been destroyed, but no one is going to restore it. They generally have a saying - "I am an Abkhaz, which means I should not work." This is the first thing.
      Second. Most of the cars you are talking about are hijacked in Europe and through Turkey-Georgia get to Abkhazia. And in Abkhazia, the "customs clearance" of such a car costs $ 1k. Those. for a mower, you can register a car without any history and no one will ask you how it got into your hands.
      The third. Abkhazia has its own rules on the border with Georgia. Those. people and many goods there do not move as they do on the Russian-Georgian border, although they will now introduce visa-free travel.
      And fourth. A very large number of criminals, led by Georgian brigadiers. Very. During the holiday season, burglars descend from the mountains every two weeks and clean the apartments rented by tourists. Pickpockets are also immeasurable. And there is no way to catch them, because after the "case", they again go to the mountains.
      So ... everything will be very difficult there, given the tendency of the population to a criminal lifestyle.
      Yes, there are normal people there, but as a rule they are either Russians, or workers of old facilities left over from the times of the USSR. Vineyards, olive groves, vegetable argo enterprises .. everything is in complete disrepair. Two thirds of the fruits and vegetables in the markets are Turkish. Local tangerines can only be obtained in a rare village. But on the other hand, every third juvenile drowsiness rides on a German convertible. Here it is, now Abkhazia.

      Yes, here is the previous speaker, he announced exactly the same thing ...
      1. +19
        29 December 2015 09: 05
        Quote: inkass_98
        I am only for strengthening relations with Abkhazia, but have they tried to do something with their own hands? Half of Abkhazia lies in the ruins of twenty years ago, and no one is going to either disassemble the rubble or repair the destroyed (which will be difficult - it is easier to demolish and rebuild after so many years of exposure to natural factors), or build a new one.


        They are waiting for the Russians to come, they will restore everything, and then again the Russians will become invaders.
        1. 0
          29 December 2015 09: 51
          Specifically, Abkhazians and Ossetians have never used such rhetoric.
        2. OCD
          +1
          29 December 2015 13: 43
          Therefore, most of the money received in South Ossetia for the restoration of the republic safely returned to the capital. With unemployment in South Ossetia, the local population could not get a job, since everyone worked there except for the locals. And the word occupier never sounded from Ossetians in relation to Russian.
      2. 0
        29 December 2015 22: 47
        I will add that the housekeepers are mainly Georgians. Abkhazians are man purse.
    3. +1
      29 December 2015 10: 48
      Quote: inkass_98
      there is money, it’s just not in those hands, in other words, you don’t have to steal so much.

      This applies to Russia!
    4. 0
      29 December 2015 14: 57
      Quote: inkass_98
      money is also sparse.

      Thieves oblige to pay 13% income tax AND WILL BE HAPPINESS! in Abkhazia.
  4. +5
    29 December 2015 07: 41
    -Ural all-Union forge, Kuban all-Union granary, and the Caucasus? .. All-Union health resort! Nooo! And the forge, and the granary and the health resort ... It's time, oh time it is from Abkhazia and the granary to make a health resort ...
    1. +2
      29 December 2015 08: 06
      I agree, but at the same time it should not become a black hole for the budget, Abkhazia as part of Russia is an ideal option.
      1. +4
        29 December 2015 15: 43
        Quote: semirek
        Abkhazia as part of Russia is the ideal option
        black hole for the budget.
  5. +3
    29 December 2015 08: 04
    Dear, I agree with you, but everything is "one-off" in our country, today it is bad with Turkey we will be friends with Abkhazia, tomorrow the world with Turkey, they will forget about Abkhazia, alas, it is so, it is necessary, it is very necessary to invest both money and political resources in Abkhazia (not only), for the long term, then there will not be any talk of Turkish influence, but now, in fact, a one-time action, with no clear goals, either to scare the Turks, or to do business with the Abkhaz, and even so successfully cover up care for the motherland
  6. +3
    29 December 2015 08: 16
    it’s not enough to say to Abkhazians, they say, expel the Turks, here you need to offer something in return and these are not peacekeepers with machine guns, these are businessmen with money. and we have a crisis, the economy is falling.
    and who are these Turkish businessmen - aren't they the descendants of muhajirs? and will there be enough pro-Russian Abkhazia to point their relatives to the door?
  7. +14
    29 December 2015 08: 45
    And you do not remember how almost overnight they became "Russian" pensioners and invalids, began to receive benefits for large families, and so on. People who have never worked for Russia paid no taxes. Nobody asked the question, what is the price (I'm talking about money) of such allies. And their elite, living off our budget. These are, among other things, our hospitals, schools and kindergartens that have not yet been built.
    1. +1
      29 December 2015 09: 08
      so for the sake of geopolitics we will not stand for price. and in Transnistria do you think at whose expense the banquet?
      1. +5
        29 December 2015 11: 40
        in Transnistria, by the way, almost all objects work for Russia
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    3. 0
      29 December 2015 22: 49
      As well as roads, buses on the roads and jobs for us.
  8. +1
    29 December 2015 08: 52
    The article title is too optimistic. It is far from the end. Let's see what they agree on, and most importantly how they will fulfill the agreement.
    1. 0
      29 December 2015 12: 41
      Quote: Belousov
      Too optimistic title of the article.

      What optimism is there, if the title of the article contains a question mark ...
  9. +4
    29 December 2015 09: 00
    You need to act strongly and accurately, and for this you need to do only two things - chop off the tentacles of an octopus such as NPOs (which set the stage for colorful revolutions) and the second is the simplest thing to give well-paid work to ordinary people, because it’s no secret that in the Caucasus, clanism is very well developed; there are no relatives in power; there is no good work.
    1. -4
      29 December 2015 09: 13
      the abbreviation "nko" itself annoys you, acts like a red rag? and to the place and out of place they are remembered.
    2. +1
      29 December 2015 15: 46
      Quote: Andryukha G
      and secondly, the easiest way to give well-paid work to ordinary people

      Are there any more hairs in the beard? - Tear out one for me, oh, wise one ...
  10. +2
    29 December 2015 09: 14
    (A clarification will have to be made against the background of an interesting fact: since Abkhazia became an independent state, foreign "investors" have significantly increased their support for Georgian non-governmental organizations, for which the slogan in the style of "Georgian-Abkhaz friendship is growing stronger day by day." the fact that this slogan and its derivatives in Abkhazia, for well-known reasons, cause a gag reflex, Western "friends" do not see any reason to curtail support programs for specialized (read - anti-Russian) NPOs. The British society "Reconciliation Resources" and the so-called International anxiety ”, through which tens of millions of dollars are pumped in an effort to weaken the pro-Russian mood of Abkhazia.)

    All these explanations-explanations are the result of our vague policy towards the so-called. "self-proclaimed". If we recognized them as independent, then we must also recognize the legitimacy of the decisions of the peoples (referendums) of these republics, and not arrange politeses with curtsies. It is the population that decides, not the uncle of the State Department or the Bundestag. If we constantly look around "and what will Princess Marya Nikolaevna say", then we will not get out of the boys' pants. Yes
  11. +1
    29 December 2015 11: 52
    "If the quota reaches 60-70% under conditions suitable for Russian fishermen, then Turkish" partners "will have to leave this segment of the Black Sea, which will lead to tens of millions of dollars in losses for Turkish companies. But at the same time, Russia, of course, needs to take into account the interests of Abkhazia itself "...

    Hmm ... And what is there to think about ??? Benefit to both Abkhazians and us ... That is, this project is interesting to be on both sides ...

    The benefits are that Abkhazia does not heed the hints of Russia about Turkish business, for the Abkhaz there is absolutely no ...

    And the speculation that Russia will betray the interests of Abkhazia is also from the area of ​​non-profit organizations, that is, five-columned ...
  12. +1
    29 December 2015 13: 05
    Close you need a window for the Turks, that would not blow.
  13. +2
    29 December 2015 14: 22
    After all, the Turks are catching the Black Sea fish, so whoever has a fishing rod - he has a fat! Until in Abkhazia with our help they learn / remember / how nobody worked at least at the USSR level, they will make them get out of feudal clan relations.
    And trying to bargain with the Chechens is a losing option.
    This is a troublesome business. Where the result is known in advance - who pays, orders the music. Only now he doesn’t add friends, but he produces corruption and card cheaters - she has to swing it!
    So what did Surkov go with and with what result will he return?
    1. +1
      29 December 2015 16: 38
      I can safely say a lot of money down the drain, loud statements, many projects (not feasible), but in reality the benefits are minuscule, in comparison with the cost of public relations and the establishment of some norms in relation to the Turks, in short they will give us a part of the Turkish percentage and all
  14. 0
    29 December 2015 19: 56
    Without any doubt, the groundhogs will also be overwhelmed by this project, an example of New Russia.
    1. 0
      29 December 2015 22: 53
      And did New Russia merge? When? Did I miss something?
  15. 0
    30 December 2015 01: 07
    Quote: vladimirvn
    And you do not remember how almost overnight they became "Russian" pensioners and invalids, began to receive benefits for large families, and so on. People who have never worked for Russia paid no taxes. Nobody asked the question, what is the price (I'm talking about money) of such allies. And their elite, living off our budget. These are, among other things, our hospitals, schools and kindergartens that have not yet been built.


    Yes, yes, "enough to feed Moscow" slogans like these in the 90s led to the Chechen war, and almost completely destroyed the Russian Federation. Today we do not feed Abkhazia, tomorrow we do not feed Belarus, then the Urals do not feed Moscow, then Krasnodar does not feed everyone. Don't forget about not feeding Crimea. What is left then? A dozen other small states. Remind Yugoslavia, or yourself? Maybe let's turn on our head and start thinking a little further than today. And most importantly, we will stop thinking with moronic slogans.