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OTRK Iskander-M will receive a new rocket

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Valery Kashin, General Designer of NPK Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering, told the media that the company had created a new ammunition for the Iskander-M operational tactical complex. We are talking about a new aeroballistic rocket, which has already passed interdepartmental tests.


Information Agency TASS Citing Valery Kashin, reports that the Iskander-M OTRK can now be equipped with five types of aeroballist missiles, as well as one cruise missile.

According to Valery Kashin, the work on the modernization of the operational-tactical complex, which is in service with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, does not stop, which makes it possible to create new missiles for the Iskander using advanced technologies.

OTRK Iskander-M will receive a new rocket


This year, rocket personnel from various military districts took part in exercises using the operational-tactical missile complex Iskander-M. Thus, during the maneuvers in the Astrakhan region, the combat calculations of the Iskander-M OTRK sent a series of strikes against the infrastructure of the conditional enemy located at a distance of 300 km. The defeat of the goals was successful.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 25 December 2015 16: 20 New
    22
    Good news. You can not frustrate the "partners". They should not relax in NATO. Let Tonus be consumed.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 25 December 2015 16: 25 New
      +7
      "Iskanders" have not yet been tested in real life .. Our designer works amazingly constructively! The main thing is that the military-industrial complex does not disappoint .. hi
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 25 December 2015 16: 25 New
      12
      It is necessary to experience in Syria. There, 500 km is enough to cover all the objects of ISIS.
      1. doework
        doework 25 December 2015 16: 39 New
        10
        Is it expensive, Iskander beard mock
        1. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 25 December 2015 16: 43 New
          25
          Quote: doework
          Is it expensive, Iskander beard mock

          - So this will not be a waste, but TEST. Refinement during application.
          1. Vorobey-1
            Vorobey-1 25 December 2015 17: 03 New
            +6
            "Iskanders" and so have no analogues, and then another +!
            Well done! Just joy in the heart!
            1. Falcon
              Falcon 25 December 2015 20: 30 New
              -12
              Quote: Vorobey-1
              "Iskanders" and so have no analogues, and then another +!


              Oh, well, let's just not talk about having no tax in the world.

              Of course he is good, but he has a direct analogue.

              ATACMS

              1. Inok10
                Inok10 25 December 2015 21: 00 New
                22
                Quote: Falcon
                Oh, well, let's just not talk about having no tax in the world.

                Of course he is good, but he has a direct analogue.

                ATACMS

                .. what you brought into comparison can only be an analogue of the "Point" - "Point-U", no more, an ordinary short-medium-range ballistic missile depending on the modification .. to the "Iskander" with its quasibalistic trajectory and speed of 2100 m / s .. mattress product, as to China in a famous pose from Kaliningrad .. laughing
                1. Vorobey-1
                  Vorobey-1 25 December 2015 22: 52 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Inok10
                  Quote: Falcon
                  Oh, well, let's just not talk about having no tax in the world.

                  Of course he is good, but he has a direct analogue.

                  ATACMS

                  .. what you brought into comparison can only be an analogue of the "Point" - "Point-U", no more, an ordinary short-medium-range ballistic missile depending on the modification .. to the "Iskander" with its quasibalistic trajectory and speed of 2100 m / s .. mattress product, as to China in a famous pose from Kaliningrad .. laughing


                  That’s for sure, far from being an analogue to the Iskander, the Point may be something ...
                  In general, the images of this ATACMS are pinned up - a 6-pipe block and next to it there is such a puss with caliber as the whole block, couple I don’t understand the joke with scale ?! what
                  maybe so ..
                  1. NordUral
                    NordUral 28 December 2015 12: 05 New
                    0
                    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-140_ATACMS

                    And they did not make an approximate approximation to ours.
                2. rero
                  rero 26 December 2015 01: 56 New
                  -1
                  LORA - izraelskaia sistema 'toze mozet strliat raketami raznovo tipa i krilatoi raketi
                  1. Lex.
                    Lex. 26 December 2015 09: 11 New
                    +2
                    For such cases, the rzso polonaise would be suitable, it is an order of magnitude cheaper and the accuracy is 1,5 meters
              2. opus
                opus 26 December 2015 02: 08 New
                +2
                Quote: Falcon
                but he has a direct analogue.

                well, not "direct"
                Maximum firing range 300 km

                950x M74 Unguided Anti-Personnel / Anti-Material (APAM) Submunition with a range of 128 km (80 miles)
                The 275x M74 submunition (ANN / GPS) has 165 kilometers (103 miles) range
                MGM-140C / MGM-164A ATACMS Block 2: Equipped with a warhead cassette with 13 homing BAT ("BET") combat elements. Firing range up to 140 km. Not fully accepted
                unitary (MGM-140E), replaces 230 kg (500 pounds) unitary HE warhead M74 bombs. GPS / INS as well as MGM-140V. The range has been increased to 300 km (190 miles).

                The fact that the plump in the photo is the same for the HIMARS TR ATACMS 560 kg (950xM47)

                300km is the same, at maximum.


                UK has the same


                This option is even more interesting for them.



                MTCR is clearly impaired.
                Base Nike-Hercules:

              3. Lex.
                Lex. 26 December 2015 09: 09 New
                +1
                Well, this is an analogue, rather, point y
              4. Bersaglieri
                Bersaglieri 28 December 2015 12: 34 New
                0
                In terms of parameters, it’s still not an analog, but in between "Point-U" and "Iskander"
          2. aksakal
            aksakal 25 December 2015 18: 53 New
            +8
            Quote: oldseaman1957
            Refinement during application.

            - in real combat conditions and in real combat use! Of course, in real life against ISIS beards, firing from Iskanders is about the same as from a cannon against sparrows. In real life, if there were enough drone UAVs in Russia, it would be optimal to wet them with them, well, to use bombers for complex purposes, this is all clear, and this is clear to everyone. But Russia, for a serious reason, has not fought for a long time, and, God forbid, there is no need to fight, and therefore it is not possible to verify new developments in combat use. And so check out the Iskanders in Syria was not superfluous. By the way, the “second hare” in all of this is a demonstration to the partners in Zaluzh that the weapons used in Syria are not formidable in words and in brochures, but formidable in real life, because the partners are mistrustful of the brochures. "Third Hare" - buyers see the goods face that their seller-manufacturer is not cheating, but is selling a worthwhile item that is worth the money that the seller asks for them. So I would support several launches of Iskanders in Syria. “Point W” in Yemen showed itself, but alas, about half of the missiles are flying where they should not — Yemenis complain. If the “Points” were more reliable, the Saudis would have no time for Syria at all.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 25 December 2015 20: 27 New
              10
              Quote: aksakal
              approximately half of the missiles are flying in the wrong direction - Yemenis complain.
              You need to aim better, enter meteorological data last, not last week! Then you don’t have to complain!
              It’s only our ICBMs that they choose the start errors and the target places after astro correction, yes, plus the GLONAS shaman ... But here, please, kindly calculate the shooting data ... enter corrections ... Then click on the "start" button
              In short, Do not blame the mirror, if the mug is crooked!
        2. Lukich
          Lukich 25 December 2015 16: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: doework
          Is it expensive, Iskander beard mock

          Yes, and drag away.
          1. Bochik
            Bochik 25 December 2015 18: 03 New
            0
            Quote: Lukich
            Quote: doework
            Is it expensive, Iskander beard mock

            Yes, and drag away.

            To drag to the nearest airfield far?
            1. Lukich
              Lukich 25 December 2015 18: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: Bochik
              To drag to the nearest airfield far?

              to destination. what's the point? What is there that is not at our landfills?
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 25 December 2015 20: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: Lukich
                to destination. what's the point? What is there that is not at our landfills?

                At our test sites there are no (glory to the Almighty!) Bearded ISIS burying themselves underground!
        3. Lex.
          Lex. 26 December 2015 09: 06 New
          +1
          Is it expensive, Iskander to be ridiculed by beards-A calibers?
        4. Lex.
          Lex. 26 December 2015 09: 06 New
          +1
          Is it expensive, Iskander to be ridiculed by beards-A calibers?
          1. zulusuluz
            zulusuluz 26 December 2015 11: 07 New
            +1
            Iskander in Europe already know, have heard ... But Caliber good advertising has benefited! So much so that the Americans fell into a stupor for several days in the international arena.
        5. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 28 December 2015 09: 22 New
          0
          But still there are goals for them: oil refineries, bulk terminals, which are used by Turkey through barmaley.
      2. kil 31
        kil 31 25 December 2015 16: 40 New
        -10
        What does the range have to do with it, it's about warheads.
        Valery Kashin, general designer of NPK Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering, told the media that the company has created a new ammunition for the Iskander-M tactical and operational complex.
        What is the warhead in this article? But it is not said which? I think a stupid article.
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 December 2015 16: 45 New
          +3
          New missiles and new opportunities, there is no limit to perfection.
          1. kil 31
            kil 31 25 December 2015 16: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            New missiles and new opportunities, there is no limit to perfection.

            Where is it written about a new rocket? It is written about the new warhead.
            Valery Kashin, general designer of NPK Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering, told the media that the company has created a new ammunition for the Iskander-M tactical and operational complex.
            1. Bochik
              Bochik 25 December 2015 18: 18 New
              +2
              Where is the least mention of warhead in the article? Would you even look at Wikipedia or something ... What does the warhead have to do with it? In the article, ammunition means a new missile, which does not contradict terminology at all. And what warhead is needed, this one will be set based on the needs of the current moment.
              1. kil 31
                kil 31 25 December 2015 18: 55 New
                -5
                Ammunition means a new missile. Yes, I agree, terminology is an interesting thing. As I wrote below, the bullet is different, but the cartridge is the same. Where the article says that they came up with a new rocket and had to redo the mobile base for a more powerful rocket. If the rocket is more powerful, then it should be increased. It is not possible to shove a more voluminous rocket engine and power to it the same tanks, steps.
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 25 December 2015 21: 52 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Kil 31
                  the bullet is different, but the cartridge is the same.
                  The comparison is incorrect:
                  After the shot, the bullet flies to the target, and the cartridge case is ejected to the right of the insole. At Escander, a BULLET (warhead) flies towards a target along with a CARTRIDGE HOUSING (missile compartment!
                  Quote: Kil 31
                  came up with a new rocket and had to redo the mobile base for a more powerful rocket. If the rocket is more powerful, then it should be increased.
                  For these purposes, there is a modernization base of the complex. And the "new" rocket was "invented"! From this, the Americans howled! KVO = 1m!
                  You can imagine that with D = 500 + km rocket you can drive piles into the ground!
                  - Iskander-K complex (2007) - according to media reports on May 29, 2007, during the test launches of Iskander-M complex missiles at the Kapustin Yar training ground, the Iskander-K R-500 missile was also tested for the first time "- cruise missile with a range of 500 km, cruising speed of 230-260 m / s, flight duration of 24 minutes, warhead mass of 500 kg, KVO about 1 m, engine - economical turbofan engine.
                  The 9K720 Iskander-M complex, 9M723-1 missile (2005) - an extended range OTR with a nuclear warhead. The first mention in the media - 2008. The name "Tender" is also found.
                  1. opus
                    opus 26 December 2015 02: 29 New
                    0
                    Quote: BoA KAA
                    And the "new" rocket was "invented"! From this, the Americans howled! KVO = 1m!

                    Yes.
                    But this time we are talking about an AEROBALLISTIC ROCKET, not about the KR

                    something close to:

                    (then precisely detachable warhead)


                    I would also like such a stage of breeding and missile warheads


                    crying
                    1. Spnsr
                      Spnsr 27 December 2015 20: 42 New
                      0
                      laughing
                      Quote: opus
                      I would also like such a stage of breeding and missile warheads

                      and so that each block flies along its unpredictable trajectory! laughing to the desired goal, so that like a whirlwind! laughing
                2. Markiz_A
                  Markiz_A 26 December 2015 07: 13 New
                  +1
                  Why must a rocket be increased? There may be another engine, for a different type of fuel, while maintaining the size of the engine and increasing power ..
                3. Bochik
                  Bochik 26 December 2015 22: 38 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Kil 31
                  Where the article says that they came up with a new rocket and had to redo the mobile base for a more powerful rocket. If the rocket is more powerful, then it should be increased. It is not possible to shove a more voluminous rocket engine and power to it the same tanks, steps.

                  "... We are talking about a NEW aeroballistic missile, which has already passed interagency tests ..." - did you even read an article or just looked at pictures? In your opinion, if the mallet is larger, will it crash more? Do the words "technology" and "scientific and technological progress" say anything to you? Or doesn’t it fit into your head that you can put another engine in the same rocket body - more powerful with the same dimensions? And to pour fuel into tanks with a different chemical composition, more effective?
            2. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 25 December 2015 21: 39 New
              +1
              Quote: Kil 31
              Where is it written about a new rocket? It is written about the new warhead.
              The article says, but you need to read carefully:
              the company has created a new ammunition for the Iskander-M operational-tactical complex. It's about a new aeroballistic missile, which has already passed interdepartmental tests.
              The fact is that the rocket of the Escander is an INTEGRABLE warhead. She flies to the target with the rocket compartment. (There will be more fragments!)
              And the fact that there are already 5 of their varieties, plus 1 KR (R-500), so without being too lazy, you can read it on the Internet.
              1. kil 31
                kil 31 25 December 2015 22: 22 New
                -2
                Alexander. I’m talking about this
                about a new aeroballistic rocket
                I’ll not tell you something about the beauty of the word. Can you tell me how the rocket of your name differs from (aeroballistic rocket) what is this new name? Did you know that name before?
                And the fact that there are already 5 of their varieties, plus 1 KR (P-500), so, without too laziness, you can read in the I-net
                I am very proud, of course, that each system should have a different arsenal of ammunition. But for some reason it is written there, different in warheads, and not different in missiles. Different missiles, different launchers; CLASSIC.
            3. opus
              opus 26 December 2015 02: 24 New
              0
              Quote: Kil 31
              Where is it written about a new rocket? It is written about the new warhead.


              written New ammunition

              Ammunition, this is a rocket for this OTR
              Quote: Kil 31
              What is the warhead in this article?


              to choose:

              1.Cassette warhead (Types of combat elements):
              non-contact shrapnel
              - cumulative fragmentation
              self-aiming
              - volume-detonating
              2.nuclear, power 5-50 ct
              3. penetrating (all modifications)
              4. high explosive (all modifications)
              5. cumulative

              The ammunition is most likely a modification of the 9M723-1 (9M723K1 / 9M723K5 / 9M723-1K5) OTP missile of an increased range capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

              Maybe they did a detachable warhead (increased range, reduced probability of interception)
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        2. Homo
          Homo 25 December 2015 17: 11 New
          +6
          Quote: Kil 31
          What does the range have to do with it, it's about warheads.

          What is warhead? The article says, "... the company created a new ammunition for the Iskander-M operational-tactical complex ..." And the ammunition is both a cartridge (for an assault rifle) and a projectile (for a gun) and a missile (for the Iskandre complex).
          1. kil 31
            kil 31 25 December 2015 18: 18 New
            -4
            Quote: Homo
            Quote: Kil 31
            What does the range have to do with it, it's about warheads.

            What is warhead? The article says, "... the company created a new ammunition for the Iskander-M operational-tactical complex ..." And the ammunition is both a cartridge (for an assault rifle) and a projectile (for a gun) and a missile (for the Iskandre complex).

            What does a steel core mean in a pool, etc. etc. The cartridge has remained the same. The same warhead missile is different. Range can only change the mass of warheads. It does not say that the missile is enlarged and does not say that the base has been redone. It is written only about warheads.
            1. opus
              opus 26 December 2015 02: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: Kil 31
              Range can only change the mass of warheads.

              1.New mixed fuel
              2. Reducing the tare weight (shell)
              3. Nozzle with high-altitude nozzle
              4. A detachable warhead, or the introduction of the 2nd stage (the container does not need to be dragged)
              5. Refusal from GDR with RM (eat up to 7% of thrust)
              and the use of UVT (rotary nozzle)

              6.New is the trend now: non-nozzle turbojet engine (though not UVT)
              7. Stabilization and flight control by a rotary nozzle, rejection of aerodynamic surfaces, eat up 3-4% of speed)
              8. Reducing the mass of BIP and avionics (it’s easy now)
              One replacement of LKG with VOG will give 30-50 kilometers
              8.Can continue
    3. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 25 December 2015 16: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Let Tonus be consumed.

      Or so: let anus tone do not relax.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 25 December 2015 16: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        "Iskanders" have not yet experienced in real life ..
        In 2008, officers of the 1st division of the combat use center, together with the personnel of the 630th separate missile battalion from the military airport of Akhtubinsk, transported An-124 transport aircraft to the concentration area to fulfill the assigned mission. Two successful 2M9 missile launches of the Iskander complex were carried out. Officers and officers of the 723th Special Forces Detachment and the 630st Division of the Combat Use Center were awarded orders and medals.
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 25 December 2015 16: 40 New
      +2
      But this news is very good. I usually wait for two news - this is the supply of S-400 and the development of missiles to them and here are the deliveries of Iskander-M and here is the development of new missiles to them. And then aviation, tanks and ships.
    5. Lukich
      Lukich 25 December 2015 16: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: oleg-gr
      . You can not frustrate the "partners".

      everything for them "loved ones" laughing
    6. DMB3000
      DMB3000 25 December 2015 16: 49 New
      +3
      Meanwhile ... New Su-35S fighters of the aviation regiment of the Air Force and Air Defense Association of the Eastern Military District interceded to protect the sky of the Khabarovsk Territory. On December 25, the aircraft took to combat alert air defense.

      Su-35S aircraft were replaced on combat duty by Su-27SM fighters, Interfax notes. Several pairs of fighter aircraft will be on duty in shifts. For take-off on alarm, aircraft from the Dzemgi airfield are given 16 minutes. The rearmament of Russian aviation with new military vehicles begins from the Far East.
      1. remy
        remy 26 December 2015 12: 00 New
        0
        not 16 but a 2-minute readiness for take-off.
        the duty link sits in the tea room chasing teas!
    7. Sweles
      Sweles 25 December 2015 18: 40 New
      0
      it’s necessary to hold a demonstration, let’s say the Iskander bombing a column of oil carriers near the border with Turkey, let them penetrate ...
  2. Vadim237
    Vadim237 25 December 2015 16: 20 New
    +1
    The missile will be hypersonic anyway.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 25 December 2015 16: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Vadim237
      The missile will be hypersonic anyway.


      Are you in the subject? Enlighten?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 December 2015 16: 42 New
        +1
        An aeroballistic missile X 15 has a flight speed of 5 M, an Iskander rocket has a flight speed of 7 M, this new missile will be faster - than you are not hypersonic.
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 25 December 2015 16: 55 New
          +1
          Iskander rocket has a flight speed of 7 M


          smile Very, very much I would like the speed of "Sashek" to be so .... but, we were born to make a fairy tale come true!

          By and large, the possession of a b \ n moving at such a speed (possession, this means being armed, experiments do not count) raises the country's defense to an unattainable height. The speed of more than ten Machs, with a sure defeat of the target, dooms all the armies of the world for many years of envy and hopelessness.
        2. 1976AG
          1976AG 25 December 2015 17: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          An aeroballistic missile X 15 has a flight speed of 5 M, an Iskander rocket has a flight speed of 7 M, this new missile will be faster - than you are not hypersonic.


          But how do you know whether it will be faster or not !? Do you get information from the KB?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 25 December 2015 17: 45 New
            0
            My production for the Votkinsk plant produces something - an adjacent production.
        3. Markiz_A
          Markiz_A 26 December 2015 07: 25 New
          0
          500km at a speed of 7m - yes it will melt halfway.
      2. Wiruz
        Wiruz 25 December 2015 16: 47 New
        +3
        And what is there to educate?
        We look below - we are looking for the speed of the rocket. Keep in mind, the picture is far from yesterday. Not even the day before yesterday.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 25 December 2015 16: 54 New
          +1
          So are you from the reference book for foreign intelligence?
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 25 December 2015 17: 04 New
            0
            So are you from the reference book for foreign intelligence?

            Yeah, I just called headquarters in Langley, where the information was confirmed. bully

            Turn on the brain, Iskander was originally created to break through the enemy’s missile defense. Such a missile must be invulnerable to the enemy. The easiest way to make it such is to accelerate to a speed at which interception is not possible. About the fact that an existing rocket has a speed of about 7 Machs, there have been conversations for a long time
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 25 December 2015 17: 11 New
              0
              Yes, it’s you turn on the brain. Existing rockets already had the ability to go on hypersound.
              1. Wiruz
                Wiruz 25 December 2015 17: 17 New
                +2
                Existing rockets already had the ability to go on hypersound.

                So I’m talking about this. Then Vadim237 was attacked for his post that the new rocket would be hypersonic. But no one remembered that the old rocket is already hypersonic drinks
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 25 December 2015 18: 52 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Wiruz
                  So I’m talking about this. Then Vadim237 was attacked for his post that the new rocket would be hypersonic. But no one remembered that the old rocket is already hypersonic drinks

                  The Jedi were always too lazy to think, which is why they got burned.
    2. Asadullah
      Asadullah 25 December 2015 16: 27 New
      +4
      The missile will be hypersonic anyway.


      Do you at least explain that sometimes supersonic is confused with hypersound, or you will frighten away all our “partners”, lift the sanctions and wait again for the thunder to strike to cross yourself. smile

      Hypersonic speed, this is for five Machs.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 25 December 2015 16: 40 New
        -3
        Quote: Asadullah
        The missile will be hypersonic anyway.


        Do you at least explain that sometimes supersonic is confused with hypersound, or you will frighten away all our “partners”, lift the sanctions and wait again for the thunder to strike to cross yourself. smile

        Hypersonic speed, this is for five Machs.


        What will he explain if he himself is not in the know?
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 25 December 2015 16: 52 New
          0
          What will he explain if he himself is not in the know?

          Well enlighten if you are so smart. What prevents a rocket from being hypersonic. I’ll clarify, we are talking about an aeroballistic missile!
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 25 December 2015 17: 03 New
            +1
            Yes, I don’t tell you what it will be if you did not notice. And nothing prevents her from being hypersonic. Moreover, given that the maximum flight altitude reaches 50 km., Then it will certainly be able to fly in hypersound. But if you want to say something on the rocket, let’s do it, otherwise you’ve started something ...
          2. Asadullah
            Asadullah 25 December 2015 17: 07 New
            0
            What prevents a rocket from being hypersonic


            Nothing interferes. This hypersound prevents her from reaching the target. That is, from a certain moment, the so-called instability waves prevent the object from moving and the poor racket can fly the wrong way. For nuclear warheads, falling from space, even with a large error, is not relevant, and for tactical tasks it is not suitable.
            1. Wiruz
              Wiruz 25 December 2015 17: 13 New
              +2
              Nothing interferes. This hypersound prevents her from reaching the target. That is, from a certain moment, the so-called instability waves prevent the object from moving and the poor racket can fly the wrong way. For nuclear warheads, falling from space, even with a large error, is not relevant, and for tactical tasks it is not suitable.

              Here are the Americans fools. In vain, billions are spent on hypersonic CDs. And ours, too, it turns out, they do not shine with the mind - they are doing the same. You call the MO, warn them, at least save money wassat
              1. Asadullah
                Asadullah 25 December 2015 17: 34 New
                +1
                Here are the Americans fools. In vain, billions are spent on hypersonic CDs. And ours, too, it turns out, they do not shine with the mind - they are doing the same. You call MO, warn them, at least we’ll save money wassat


                Well, from what. There is one loophole called the plasma tunnel. In it, the object moves without deviations and according to interesting Planck laws, without resistance. That is, in a plasma tunnel, the speed of an object will depend only on engine power. In addition to delivering on a possible quantum "monorail" several tons of unstable friendship of nitrogen with oxygen, electricity can be delivered through it without loss and unlimited power. And for LA, this is generally a new leap of evolution. So what do you think it's worth spending billions? After all, trying various ways to give in the face with the speed of lightning, you can move humanity to a completely different world of scientific and technological revolution. wink
    3. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 25 December 2015 16: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Vadim237
      The missile will be hypersonic anyway.

      Come on! Where does this infa come from? I can not believe the word "completely." Rather, an extended range - since the Americans still accuse us of violating the INF Treaty, so why not comply with this?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 December 2015 16: 47 New
        0
        If we withdraw from the agreement on the reduction of the INF Treaty, we will only have minuses from this.
      2. Wiruz
        Wiruz 25 December 2015 16: 49 New
        +2
        Come on! Where does this infa come from? I can not believe the word "completely." Rather, an extended range - since the Americans still blame the violation of the INF Treaty, why not?

        From there, the current Iskander-M missiles are already hypersonic. If I'm not mistaken - the speed is about 7 Mach.

        Do not confuse hypersonic cruise missile and hypersonic ballistic hi
    4. opus
      opus 26 December 2015 02: 44 New
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      Quote: Vadim237
      The missile will be hypersonic anyway.

      and so 2100m / s (though not at full height). From version 9M723-1 (with conformal cable channels and an improved engine)
      But the definition of GLA, GLZL corresponds to - it is capable of flying in the atmosphere with hypersonic speed (greater than or equal to 5M; M is the Mach number) and maneuvering using aerodynamic forces.
  3. seti
    seti 25 December 2015 16: 22 New
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    Fine. And in Kaliningrad to comb his western partners. You are coming to us in the Baltic states on tanks and we are sending you missiles to our western enclave. You look and can change the orientation
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 25 December 2015 16: 31 New
      +5
      In Kaliningrad, they are already standing. And in general with these "Iskanders" - as with the "Caliber". Until the real enemy is exposed, no one will know what the range of this complex is five hundred kilometers, or one thousand five hundred ...
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  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 25 December 2015 16: 24 New
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    More rockets, good and different!
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 25 December 2015 16: 27 New
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      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      More rockets, good and different!


      Different is not necessary. Looking great.
  5. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 25 December 2015 16: 29 New
    +1
    500 km Oh well. If calibers fly 1.5-2k. Pure to fit into the contract. In a real war, it can suddenly fly 3k. So, by chance.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 25 December 2015 16: 43 New
      +2
      It is not necessary to equalize all the missiles with Caliber. A gauge is like a non-flying cruise missile with a subsonic flight speed
      1. vladimir_krm
        vladimir_krm 25 December 2015 18: 02 New
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        Another modification of the Iskander is armed with R-500 cruise missiles. Their speed is 10 times lower than that of 9M723K1 missiles, however, according to some sources, the R-500 can fly to a range of over 2 thousand km at an altitude not exceeding several meters above the ground.
        http://topwar.ru/70171-tri-smerti-iskandera.html
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 December 2015 16: 45 New
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      It’s beneficial for us to keep the rocket flight ranges secret - so as not to get hit.
  6. bad
    bad 25 December 2015 16: 40 New
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    The TASS news agency, citing Valery Kashin, reports that the Iskander-M OTRK can now be equipped with five types of aeroballistic missiles, as well as one cruise missile.
    ..heh .. wait for tantrums from the “partners” .. laughing
    1. opus
      opus 26 December 2015 02: 48 New
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      Quote: bad
      ..heh .. wait for tantrums from the “partners” ..

      Government Prize received for a reason


      We will wait for March / April and the annual report of JSC NPK KBM
      there are m / y lines and we will see everything
  7. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 25 December 2015 16: 40 New
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    The TASS news agency, citing Valery Kashin, reports that now the Iskander-M OTRK can be equipped with five types of aeroballistic missiles, as well as one cruise missile.

    And telegrams will fly here ... regarding violations by Russia of the INF Treaty.
  8. bad
    bad 25 December 2015 16: 47 New
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    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Let Tonus be consumed.

    Or so: let anus tone do not relax.
    .. laughing drinks
    1. iConst
      iConst 25 December 2015 17: 15 New
      +3
      - Literate ...
  9. 501Legion
    501Legion 25 December 2015 16: 54 New
    +3
    I think they have long had rockets with a range of more than a thousand kilometers. and with nuclear warheads
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 25 December 2015 16: 58 New
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      It would be nice !
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 25 December 2015 17: 10 New
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      I think they have long had rockets with a range of more than a thousand kilometers. and with nuclear warheads

      There is. "Caliber" are called. Well, or the continuation of the "P-500". Several times, information appeared in the domestic media that Iskander can work with cruise subsonic missiles with a flight range of about 2500 km.

      And here, in fact, is the launch of the R-500 Iskaner. Find 10 differences from 3m14.
      1. Denis.Ka
        Denis.Ka 25 December 2015 18: 59 New
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        Virus, you do not confuse a case with this?
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 25 December 2015 19: 54 New
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          The virus does not confuse, I also noticed that the ammunition is different on Iskander. Now in containers, as in the photo in the article. But I thought that there were only two of them. But the article says that there are 6 different ones (incl. One winged, rather some kind of Caliber). What !!! hi
          I understand that under the agreement on short- and medium-range missiles more than 500 km. ground complexes are not allowed. But I think that Russia does not cost anything to put there a marine version of the Caliber with a range of 1500 km. (I don’t remember whether it is longer or not).
      2. opus
        opus 26 December 2015 03: 00 New
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        Quote: Wiruz
        There is. "Caliber" are called. Well, or the continuation of the "P-500".

        ZM-14, continued 3M10 Grenade (with a new avionics and GOS)
        The R-500 (9M728) is not a continuation of the KS-122 / 9B2413 missile (RK-55 / 3K12 / 9A2413 Relief complex). Everything is destroyed.

        Quote: Wiruz
        R-500 rocket launch Iskaner. Find 10 differences from 3m14.

        Diameter, Length



        Caliber (ZM-14) for the earth, it is 9M729 - SSC-X-8

        The creation and testing of a similar missile in the ground version It is considered a violation of the INF Treaty, which was signed in 1987 between the USSR and the USA.



        9M729 GLCM (SSC-X-8)

        Bill Gertz (I know!) Claimed that Russia had, on September 2, conducted another test of the ground-launched cruise missile that the United States claims violatesthe 1987 INF Treaty. Gertz indicated that the US designation is the “SSC-X-8.” I believe this missile is designated 9M729. There was a Russian announcement by GosNIIP, the design bureau that builds guidance for cruise missiles, that Russia completed state acceptance trials of the “ground-based system 9M728, 9M729 and its modernized version. ”

        ours ourselves spilled out from the annual report of the State Research Institute of Instrument Engineering:
      3. Dinko
        Dinko 26 December 2015 09: 20 New
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        According to some reports, the caliber flies to a range of about 4 thousand km. And I think that it is so, if not further.
    3. samoletil18
      samoletil18 25 December 2015 23: 42 New
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      But I couldn’t understand, he found accusations against Russia from Psaki. Now, now, the new Internet jennifer will be referenced after reading this comment. I declare that the entire Iskander network does not fire beyond 124 km. The INF Treaty is unshakable. And the calibers for 1500 km flew by mistake, in flight the odometer jammed. repeat
      1. Bochik
        Bochik 26 December 2015 23: 00 New
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        Quote: samoletil18
        And the calibers for 1500 km flew by mistake, in flight the odometer jammed. repeat

        It’s just that the wind was fair and that’s where the figs flew away.
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  12. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 25 December 2015 19: 37 New
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    Traditionally. Gorbachev sawed OTRK "Oka", not subject to the restrictions on the INF Treaty, to make the amers pleasant (although, in fact, it’s the same as substituting the anus). Putin restored the sawn-off, on a new technical level, as OTRK"Iskander"terrifying partners.

    And so in many areas. Unfortunately, not everything that has been destroyed can be fixed.
  13. nrex
    nrex 25 December 2015 20: 14 New
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    And if you consider that the official range of destruction of some cruise missiles is designated as 4500 km, then this is a good regular splinter for the ass of any aggressor.
  14. podgornovea
    podgornovea 25 December 2015 20: 40 New
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    Wonderful, well, just magical news!
    It’s a pity that just about Nothing!
    I'm not talking about the characteristics, but "TASS News Agency, citing Valery Kashin, reports that now the Iskander-M OTRK can be equipped with five types of aeroballistic missiles," so what!?
    At least the type of ip for what application!
    And so it is possible to inform at least every year - "now the Iskander-M OTRK can be equipped with six types, now seven types, now forty-three types."
  15. podgornovea
    podgornovea 25 December 2015 21: 02 New
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    Not necessarily detailed performance characteristics, but at least differences from the four previous types: faster / farther / more powerful / inconspicuous / more precisely / "just 2 times cooler" :)
    At least the type of ip for what application!
    And so it is possible to inform at least every year - "now the Iskander-M OTRK can be equipped with six types, now seven types, now forty-three types."
  16. Old26
    Old26 25 December 2015 23: 00 New
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    [quote = Vadim237] An aeroballistic rocket X 15 has a flight speed of 5 M, an Iskander rocket has a flight speed of 7 M, this new rocket will be faster - than you are not hypersonic. [/ quote]
    ALL CURRENT ALREADY HYPERSONIC. To be even faster, you need to change the engine and fuel. Does it make sense?

    [quote = Denis Obukhov] 500 km. Oh well. If calibers fly 1.5-2k. Pure to fit into the contract. In a real war, it can suddenly fly 3k. So, by chance. [/ Quote]
    By chance, a girl can "fly up". The rocket, which now flies 500 km, will not fly at a range of 3000 km. It is possible to replace fuel or its quantity with LRE. In solid propellant rocket engines, 100% fuel filling is usually

    [quote = vladimir_krm] Another modification of the Iskander is armed with R-500 cruise missiles. Their speed is 10 times less than that of 9M723K1 missiles, however, according to some sources, the R-500 can fly to a range of over 2 thousand km at an altitude not exceeding several meters above the ground.
    "some sources" do not want to acknowledge reality. Both the President of Russia and the Americans argue that the R-500 DOES NOT VIOLATE the INF Treaty. But "Some sources" - those yes ...

    [quote = 501Legion] I think they have long had missiles with a range of more than a thousand kilometers. and with nuclear war [/ quote]
    Who do they have? The Americans or we have on Iskander, "??????????????? It is planned, with a range of more than 1000 km on the" Iskander "is simply not ... Do not console yourself with vain illusions

    [quote = Kasym] The virus does not confuse, I also noticed that the ammunition is different on Iskander. Now in containers, as in the photo in the article. But I thought that there were only two of them. But the article says that there are 6 different ones (incl. One winged, rather some kind of Caliber). What !!! hi
    I understand that under the agreement on short- and medium-range missiles more than 500 km. ground complexes are not allowed. But I think that Russia does not cost anything to put there a marine version of the Caliber with a range of 1500 km. (I don’t remember whether it is longer or not). [/ quote]
    I'll start with the second part, with the second paragraph. 1500 things interfere with delivering a missile with a range of 2 km.
    - First. Length КР 3М14 "Caliber" has a length of almost 2 meters longer. Redo the launcher ??
    - The second one. There is such a sacramental question. A fuck. ??? Fuck it, put it on the strike complex, in which the time it takes to hit the target is about 4 minutes, change to a missile, which will “saw” 2 hours to the target ?? What for??? Or someone really want it ???

    Now about the first part (paragraph)
    The fact that the complex has several rockets in service has been known for ... years. At least 12 types of such missiles are known. Plus one version of the CD. The second is being tested. Plus export options. Also about 5 missiles.
    The Iskander cruise missile is not a variation of the Caliber. Although it makes them one KB. So the common ground is

    [quote = nrex] And when you consider that the official range of destruction of some cruise missiles is designated as 4500 km, then this is a good regular splinter for the ass of any aggressor. [/ quote]
    Not at all. A splinter that goes to the goal of 6 hours
  17. Old26
    Old26 25 December 2015 23: 27 New
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    Quote: podgornovea
    Not necessarily detailed performance characteristics, but at least differences from the four previous types: faster / farther / more powerful / inconspicuous / more precisely / "just 2 times cooler":) At least the type of ipi for what application! And you can at least say every year - " now OTRK Iskander-M can be equipped with six types, now seven types, now forty-three types. "

    missiles do not differ from each other in anything special. Neither faster, nor further, nor more inconspicuous, nor more precisely, nor "just 2 times cooler"
  18. Appraiser
    Appraiser 27 December 2015 16: 12 New
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    The Iskander-M operational-tactical complex must be “tested” (since there is such an opportunity) in Syria. According to Pushkin A.S. : "... and experience, son of difficult errors." soldier
  19. Yak28
    Yak28 27 December 2015 16: 27 New
    +1
    The main thing is that the operational-tactical complexes would go to the troops in hundreds, and not in a piece
  20. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 27 December 2015 22: 19 New
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    It's good. Pleases. We have gifts for our "sworn friends"! Angry ... and be prepared to "accept gifts" if, God forbid, it comes to that ...
  21. Old26
    Old26 27 December 2015 22: 55 New
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    Quote: Appraiser
    The Iskander-M operational-tactical complex must be “tested” (since there is such an opportunity) in Syria. According to Pushkin A.S. : "... and experience, son of difficult errors."

    What for? This is called a sparrow shoot from a cannon. Without the ability to check the parameters. Yes, and why check a second time

    Quote: Yak28
    The main thing is that the operational-tactical complexes would go to the troops in hundreds, and not in a piece

    Yeah. To each soldier in a personal operational-tactical complex. Hundred? And why not thousands ??? Why trifle, since the staffing in the army has become an empty phrase ....