The garlic crisis, or the imaginary numbers of the domestic economy

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During his big press conference, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that one of those moments that should be attributed to a certain positive in the Russian economy against the background, to put it mildly, of the difficult general situation in the financial and economic segment, is a significant decrease in outflow volumes capital abroad. Preliminary data for 2015 year suggests that about 58 billion has flowed from the Russian harbor to other banks. So this is a huge amount - what is presidential optimism based on?

The fact is that last year the amount of capital outflow from Russia amounted to more than 148 billion dollars, almost a third exceeded the average for the previous 10 years. The financial system of Russia from 2004 to 2013 year (inclusive) lost an average of 104-105 billion dollars annually, and this is more than 30 more than the amount of funds that are currently placed in the National Welfare Fund (NWF) of Russia. In other words, in the specified period of time, the treasury of Russia lost 13-14 "NWF"!

It is quite clear that if at least half of these funds remained in Russia, then we would not have to talk about any kind of overcoming of the next economic crisis. But, as they say, did not grow together - the capital of hundreds of billions annually left Russia, and therefore we have what we have ...

If one pushes oneself purely from the statistical indicators of capital outflows, then there is something positive. A threefold reduction in capital outflows compared with the previous year is quite a positive phenomenon. However, the positive here looks a little sly. After all, it’s vigorously rejoicing over the withdrawal abroad on the “black” and “gray” routes of 58 billion instead of 104-105 (or 148, as in 2014) dollars - this is from the same series that rejoice over the following: “I used to be stolen 104 pocket bills, and now only 58. ” At the same time, the whole point is that stealing out of your pockets has become less, not because thieves have become more honest, but because you don’t wander around in this pocket, for example, in 2012 or 2013 (in dollar equivalent). And there are reasons for reducing the amount of funds. They are very, very commonplace.

If at the beginning of 2014, the dollar was 33-35 rubles, today it is already more than 71 rubles. And if we take into account that the profits of those who take the money over the hill are received in rubles (if illegal enrichment can be called profit at all), then the transfer of funds into dollars will lead to 2012-2013's figures. That is, the decline in capital outflows is very likely due to the fact that the dollar has risen against the ruble. After all, if you translate the same 58 billion into rubles at the current rate, then it is about the same amount of funds (and even more), which is equivalent to the mentioned 104-105 billions of dollars at the rate of the year 2013. In other words, the dollar outflow seems to have decreased, but the ruble one has grown ... In this case, the question of positivity in this situation hangs in the air, especially if we consider that the national currency in Russia is still the Russian ruble, and not the US dollar ...

The garlic crisis, or the imaginary numbers of the domestic economy


The most interesting thing here is how Moscow skillfully works with numbers. If capital outflows are considered exclusively in dollars, then the dynamics of savings in the National Wealth Fund are in rubles, and in dollars, plus, in percentage of GDP. Ministry of Finance, publishing chart changes in the NWF content index, suggests that the fund even “grew up” in relation to GDP - by 1% of GDP for the year. At the same time, the fact that GDP itself fell by more than 3,5% in 2015 was modestly lowered.

So, you can imagine a picture of this kind of reporting: a paper is placed on the table of the president in which it is written in black and white: the outflow of capital for the year decreased almost threefold, and the level of savings in the State Fund increased by 1% of GDP ... So with Such reporting can not only boldly speak about overcoming the peak of the crisis, but also completely start dancing with joy. And here comes the rhetorical question: either the president by naivety relies only on, to put it mildly, the original reports of the Ministry of Finance and “does not dig deeper”, or puts such “support” for himself only because it is more convenient to rely on it by definition ... After all to rely on real, rather than otmanipulirovannye figures, then the same will have to explain what equivalent and objective expression of the same outflow or “inflow” in question. And if you focus on real numbers, you will have to admit that the peak of the crisis has not even been completely passed ...

On the one hand, attempts to expose the economic situation in a pink color are understandable - it seems that there is no need to allow panic, people should feel stability, be more restrained. But on the other hand, will this not contribute to lulling the public at a time when the ship named the Russian economy got a hole in the reef? After all, if there was a “reef”, then it seems that it would be better to present a real plan to eliminate the leak and to call upon the public and, most importantly, the government forces (in this case, perhaps, you can’t do without a stick) to implement this plan. Present the plan and call for its implementation, and not try to declare that the water pouring into the holds is only a reason to “temporarily” climb to the upper deck and expect that the hole in the hull will be drawn out by itself, based on their probability theory ...

When with garlic people, there are much more chances to solve the problem, because there is more constructiveness and more truth. And cries in two opposite styles from "Do not rock the boat" to "Everything is gone, it's time to get out of this country!" have never led either to constructiveness, nor to the full-fledged, and not declarative, exit of Russia from crisis situations.
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  1. +94
    23 December 2015 06: 13
    During his major press conference, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced //


    that the government as a whole is pleased. And this is AWESOME ....
    Why is capital outflow allowed abroad? Why is there only a statement crimeWhere is the STATE? This is what GDP should answer ...
    1. +52
      23 December 2015 06: 28
      Quote: Aleksander
      Why is capital outflow allowed abroad?

      Unanswered question ...
      But as the manna of heaven await mythical investments!
      1. +54
        23 December 2015 07: 11
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        But as the manna of heaven await mythical investments!
        The source of investment should be the excess incomes of oligarchs and officials. It is high time to use these sources to revive the country's economy. For one salary Miller, you can pull out of the pit the whole city.
        1. +28
          23 December 2015 08: 21
          In connection with the cited figures of our economic indicators, including in the speeches of President Vladimir Putin, it was recalled that "there is a lie, there is a big lie, and there is statistics."
          The thing is that almost any digital reporting data of any activity at the request of a person who wishes to receive a favorable, neutral and negative assessment of activity in statistics can be obtained.
          It all depends on the skill of working with these numbers and the task that is assigned to him from a senior managerial rank.
          The criterion for checking all this "statistics" is the real life of the Russian people, the prices in stores and the real wages of people, the falling ruble against the dollar.
          1. -1
            23 December 2015 18: 09
            Quote: vladimirZ
            It all depends on the skill working with these numbers and tasks

            I read the article, read your comment. And it all begs the question: who plays with these numbers? Where do the figures come from in the article? You wrote so well about this but nothing concrete. Are you aware of how the inflow / outflow of capital is actually calculated? I tried to google it. The first thing naturally found by the wiki: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital Escape. Curiously, the table from the wiki did not confirm the author’s data that every year from the Russian Federation leaks for 100bn and more. Moreover, 2006 and 2008 had an influx of 41 and 82 billion, respectively. Further googling led to the understanding that almost every country has its own methods for calculating the movement of capital. Although there are recommendations from the World Bank in this regard. And on this occasion there is a curious article in Forbes: http://www.forbes.ru/sobytiya/finansy/231099-mify-ob-ottoke-kapitala-skolko-dene
            g-realno-vyvodyat-iz-rossii. Although it’s old, it’s: firstly, its data coincides with the data from the wiki. Secondly, it is said that this data is the data of the Central Bank, calculated by a technique that can hardly be called correct. I advise you to read the details in the article. They recommend a more correct methodology according to the very recommendation of the WB. And what's funny: the data calculated by this technique is several times smaller than the data of the Central Bank. So instead of an outflow of 80 billion, only 32 is obtained. And so for all years. True, and the inflow turned out less, not the same as that of the Central Bank. So if you compare the data calculated by the Central Bank and the data in the article, then they differ significantly. And the WB data is even an order of magnitude.

            ATTENTION QUESTION: For what purpose does the author of the article manipulate numbers?
            1. +2
              23 December 2015 19: 56
              And it all begs the question: who plays with these numbers?
              - jack-b

              He plays with numbers, instead of getting a truly objective picture of the ongoing economic processes, first of all, those who want to benefit from this.
              Political or economic benefit, it depends on who needs it and why.
              For this purpose, various methods of accounting for estimated indicators can be used, ignoring or vice versa involving various sources in the accounting, in this case, the outflow and inflow of currency. And from this, different results of calculations are obtained.
              Who benefits from this?
              First of all, the authorities, to hide the failed economic processes taking place in Russia, to calm the masses of the people from unrest and active protests against the liberal economic policy pursued by the ruling liberal United Russia party and the liberal government led by it, headed by its formal political leader D. Medvedev.
              This is also beneficial for those connected with the authorities, oligarchic circles, banking and financially speculative players who want to pursue the policy of robbing Russia for an infinitely long time for their enrichment.
              1. +2
                24 December 2015 05: 42
                Quote: vladimirZ
                Who benefits from this?
                First of all, the authorities, in order to conceal the failed economic processes taking place in Russia

                The Central Bank shows the outflow of $ 80 billion. And the WB at the same time shows an outflow of $ 32 billion. Why does the Central Bank increase the outflow figure? What is the benefit to him? Or the smaller the outflow, the better the government works? Those. giant outflow figures are government successes? Of course not. Then why does the Central Bank not consider according to the WB methodology, which yields significantly lower indicators? And where does the author have figures many times greater than those of the Central Bank?
                Something does not agree with this logic. Don’t you? I do not know what. But some of them are lying. Or all at once. But the position of the Central Bank is the most "mysterious" here. He can show numbers less according to the WB method or more according to the method of the author of the article. But he does neither one nor the other and maintains the golden mean. What is the benefit of doing this?
                Maybe Putin bought the World Bank, and the enemies were eager to show the failure of the government in the central bank? Or maybe on the contrary, true patriots are sitting in the Central Bank, eager to open our eyes to the enemy government?
          2. +5
            23 December 2015 22: 31
            The author claims that numbers are being manipulated, but it can be argued that not only numbers are being manipulated, that consciousness is being manipulated.
            There is a substitution of concepts, black is whitewashed, white is blackened.
            And if, as the author says with the people, "on the garlic", then the "urrya-moods" will end in the same second, all ratings will tumble down to the mark from which they began in 1999.
            And suddenly the depth of that "crevice" into which we have been steadily moving for 25 long and painful years is immediately visible.
            But this is if "on garlic".
            In addition, many are opposed to having their TV turned off with a 15-year-old series about prominent political figures.
        2. +23
          23 December 2015 09: 44
          Quote: qwert
          Miller’s salary can be pulled out of the pit the whole city.

          Just touch. Yes, he will emigrate immediately, if there are hints, he will leave by the Nord Stream, and perhaps we suddenly learn that Gazprom or its daughters in Europe are no longer "the property of the people" .. Joint stock companies, such tricky things ...
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          2. 0
            23 December 2015 10: 32
            And if we take into account that those who withdraw funds over the hill receive profits in rubles (if illicit enrichment can be called profit in general), then transferring funds to dollars will bring them to the indicators for 2012-2013.

            The author is a strange person. For some reason, he assumes that the funds withdrawn abroad are "dirty" money. Such a concept as "foreign investment" is unknown to him. It does not even occur to him that this could be a completely legal departure of the very investments that came earlier. And also a completely legal withdrawal of profit on these investments. And the domestic capital has the right to invest abroad.
            To understand how the economy of any country is "pumped up" by foreign investment, just look at the data:
            1. -1
              23 December 2015 12: 30
              Quote: blogg
              blog

              Brilliantly! hi
              The most interesting thing is that what the "authors" are calling for in Ukraine ALREADY exists, dependence on foreign capital is already less! laughing laughing laughing
              1. +1
                23 December 2015 12: 52
                Quote: Down House
                The most interesting thing is that what the "authors" call for in Ukraine ALREADY is

                I'm afraid not. If you are talking about the share of foreign capital, then given the drop in the value of Ukrainian assets and the recent loans received, the share of foreign capital in Ukraine is ever greater.
                1. +2
                  23 December 2015 13: 21
                  Quote: Jack-B
                  If you are talking about the share of foreign capital, then given the drop in the value of Ukrainian assets and the recent loans received, the share of foreign capital in Ukraine is ever greater.

                  Foreign capital, with the exception of those loans, which are also foreign capital, in a foreign country is usually presented in kind. Shares of enterprises, etc. etc. Therefore, it is subject to exactly the same revaluation, with a drop in value, as well as national capital.
                  Moreover, foreign capital in cash (loans) is also vulnerable. They periodically undergo restructuring on unfavorable conditions. And sometimes write-offs, like USSR debts.
                  So, from the depreciation of assets, the share of foreign capital does not increase. And loans, yes, they do. But they are also not given to everyone. And neatly. Primarily.
                2. -6
                  23 December 2015 15: 15
                  Quote: Jack-B
                  then the share of foreign capital in Ukraine is ever greater.

                  Here I regularly observe factories built by "Western capital" in the Russian Federation, and willows you like never before! lol
            2. 0
              23 December 2015 14: 37
              It turns out that only 74% of own funds revolves in the global economy. Reptilians invested their money or what? smile
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              2. -1
                23 December 2015 16: 46
                Quote: gaura
                It turns out only 74% of own funds revolves in the global economy.

                No, Bigfoot. Don't look at this table. Or look, but first learn what the term "donor state" means. And vice versa.
            3. -1
              23 December 2015 17: 15
              By the way, for some reason, the author ignored the president’s words that a significant part of the capital outflow is loan repayment.
            4. +1
              23 December 2015 20: 55
              To understand how the economy of any country is "pumped up" by foreign investment, just look at the data: [/ quote]

              For some reason, I did not find Russia on your list. Is everything really that bad?
              1. 0
                23 December 2015 23: 04
                48 position.
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        3. 0
          23 December 2015 09: 53
          I would put three pluses
        4. +10
          23 December 2015 10: 32
          Millerovsky salary. Yes Sechenovskaya, too, would not be enough for a city, there any region of Russia (except Moscow) can be kept there for a year.
        5. +16
          23 December 2015 11: 06
          Quote: qwert
          The source of investment should be the excess income of oligarchs and officials

          The source of investment may be funds invested in T-bills in the United States. More than 80 billion Russia’s ZVF are invested directly in US government bonds (not counting investments in private US companies). Moreover, the United States is not investing in our T-bills. And at the same time, the first persons of the state from the economy lament the outflow of capital.
          Uncle’s wife, he’s up to ... aunt. Ugh! am
        6. 0
          23 December 2015 12: 24
          Quote: qwert
          For one Miller’s salary, a whole city can be pulled out of the pit.

          Save Detroit - for Miller’s salary! laughing laughing laughing
        7. +3
          23 December 2015 17: 01
          So the whole world licks one place at the Millers. Than our establishment differs from the world, only because it sees a speck in someone else's eye, so we have a log unlike others. They allow you to plunder your own country, "patriots", it would be better if they changed their names.
        8. +1
          23 December 2015 21: 27
          Ahahaha, they laughed: "the excess income of the oligarchs." They also have a surplus state, because stolen.
      2. +54
        23 December 2015 07: 12
        Do not say that.
        November 22, 2014, the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar was 60.68 rubles.
        I wrote a comment in which I said that in a year the course will return to its level even if there is a temporary decline, and that this has never happened so that the course does not return to its maximum values.
        Exactly a year has passed, here is the result for you ... how much is the dollar now in rubles ???
        However, then I got so many minuses ...
        And by the way, nicherta didn’t get any better, nothing fell in price, and with the exhibition activity in general Tryndets, the wife after NG will be without work. :(
        HOORAY!!! Patriots ... Toli still will be!
        Well, a link to the exchange rate for 2014 from Uentrabank http://www.consultant.ru/law/ref/stavki/kurs-dollar-euro/?utm_campaign=popular&u
        tm_source = google.adwords & utm_medium = cpc & utm_content = dynamic & gclid = Cj0KEQiAhuSzBR
        DBoZfG56bK9-YBEiQARiPcZREEZJ6bLM329r0BddQ-x2grevPHnRM-nur4Zsjg3MoaAoSn8P8HAQ
        1. +12
          23 December 2015 08: 26
          Quote: Login_Off
          However, then I got so many minuses ...

          A rare case of a true forecast ... what He turned out to be optimistic! wassat + 100500!
          1. +3
            23 December 2015 09: 09
            And you can remove a couple of zeros again. laughing
            1. +4
              23 December 2015 12: 31
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              And you can remove a couple of zeros again.

              Can. So, in the end, they will do it. But then you can again tell tales about the "strong and stable" ruble.
          2. -1
            23 December 2015 10: 49
            1. So who is to blame for the fact that the dollar is worth so much now! You login off! lol
            2.All the same, Captain Vrungel’s character was right — As you call the boat, it will float: it’s a ruble and it always will be that way, the dollar comes from the German — thaler means gold. Symbols still matter. I think so.
            1. +1
              23 December 2015 11: 53
              And what about the gravel, it posuti means gold jewelry what
              1. +1
                23 December 2015 17: 21
                As far as I remember, the hryvnia was silver, but it was very heavy, and, accordingly, it was very expensive. It was not convenient to buy ordinary goods, even expensive ones, as many purchases were not necessary. On this, pieces, rubles were chopped off from the hryvnia, and they paid for purchases with them. Ukrainian hryvnia is a complete profanity of the present hryvnia.
                1. +3
                  23 December 2015 19: 55
                  I'll tell you how. In a normal economy, after a country defaults, the national currency will invariably become cheaper. But the hryvnia is still against the dollar is 24.5-25 UAH. Although its real rate is somewhere around 87-92 UAH. for a dollar. (who an economist knows that an approximate rate can be calculated by the ratio of money supply to gold and foreign exchange reserves). How this course is held in Ukraine I Kh.Z. Despite the fact that gold is no longer in Ukraine. In short, phantasmagoria.
        2. +14
          23 December 2015 08: 52
          Good afternoon, why be surprised if in the country F .... And ...... and everyone smiles evenly further.

          1. +10
            23 December 2015 10: 15
            Good, you man, Potapenko! was ... now the tax authorities are torturing you. At best, you will escape to Europe. at worst, repeat the path of thousands of perceivers. Those. you sit down.

            what a pity that officials act in their own interests and not in the interests of the state.
            1. +2
              23 December 2015 11: 21
              Quote: mark2
              Good, you man, Potapenko!

              Yes, how to say. I mixed honey with gamma, embargo (sanctions) interfere with it. Of course, like the Polish farmers, because he is banal grandmother loses. But globally for Russia it is a CHANCE to raise its production. And here is why this chance is slipping through - I agree with him. hi
            2. -4
              23 December 2015 12: 33
              Quote: mark2
              at worst, repeat the path of thousands of perceivers. Those. you sit down.

              Where, where you can see "them" - I don't know a single one! laughing
            3. 0
              23 December 2015 16: 08
              Quote: mark2
              Good, you man, Potapenko!

              http://cargomax.livejournal.com/2982.html?nojs=1
        3. +3
          23 December 2015 11: 23
          Exactly a year has passed, here is the result for you ... how much is the dollar now in rubles ???
          However, then I got so many minuses ...


          They borrowed this from you last year, now they return the "debts" to you, calculate the profit lol
        4. +13
          23 December 2015 12: 30
          Quote: Login_Off
          November 22, 2014, the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar was 60.68 rubles.
          I wrote a comment in which I said that in a year the course will return to its level even if there is a temporary decline, and that this has never happened so that the course does not return to its maximum values.
          Exactly a year has passed, here is the result for you ... how much is the dollar now in rubles ???
          However, then I got so many minuses ...

          And those who believe the fairy tales and the fables of the guarantor put minuses.
          Even if oil, by some miracle, costs $ 100-120 per barrel, the ruble will never strengthen to 35 rubles per dollar, moreover, it will never strengthen above 55 rubles per dollar, but I think that 60 rubles more we will not see. Not for that, Putin started a ruble collapse.
          1. 0
            23 December 2015 13: 32
            Quote: heal
            the ruble will never strengthen to 35 rubles per dollar, moreover, it will never strengthen above 55 rubles per dollar, but I think that we will not see 60 rubles per dollar again.

            Watching Merrill Lynch. Where the shaded cells. In theory everything can be.
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      3. +1
        23 December 2015 10: 26
        Here's how to count, if you take a loan for a "bump" - this is an inflow of capital, and if you return debts - this is an outflow of capital (we will keep silent about investments), and the difference between these indicators is considered as an inflow or outflow of capital?

        What will be the payment of Russia's total external debt in 2015?

        According to the Central Bank, during 2015. The volume of payments on debts denominated in foreign and national currencies can reach 142,487 billion dollars.
        <...>
        Monthly repayment schedule:
        in October - 8,848 billion dollars (6.990 - the main debt, 1.858 - interest);
        in November - 8,957 billion dollars (7.551 - the main debt, 1.406 - interest);
        in December - 24,605 billion dollars (22,268 - the main debt, 2.337 - interest).

        It remains to add that on January 1 2015. Russia's total external debt amounted to 599,497 billion dollars, having decreased over the past year by 129,367 billion dollars (17,7%).

        link:
        http://global-finances.ru/vyiplatyi-rossii-po-vneshnim-dolgam-v-2015-godu/
      4. +2
        23 December 2015 10: 41
        Why is capital outflow allowed abroad?
        -----------------------------------------------
        And you logically think, why? and quite legal? and then take a look at the composition of shareholders and owners of the largest companies and then you will understand that these gentlemen are quite legally driven home honestly earned in the Russian market. And in the Kremlin, elbows bite, but they can not do anything.
        1. 0
          23 December 2015 15: 22
          Quote: guzik007
          And in the Kremlin, elbows bite, but they can not do anything.

          And in the Kremlin they decide where to spend "interest" on these capitals and are happy that this capital pays salaries to our citizens, and they pay taxes hi
    2. +35
      23 December 2015 06: 44
      crisis ... no money ... yeah! We look and listen to Mr. Chubais !!! corporate party you understand ...
      1. +14
        23 December 2015 08: 42
        "We consider the results for a long time and carefully, summarize the results, make reports ..." - this is what Rusnano is doing. The main type of activity is the calculation of the seized dough and distribution to the pockets.
      2. +11
        23 December 2015 09: 59
        Some are all the same in Rusnano !!! Retirees are sitting on the water with bread practically, based on current prices. And these fat flows in streams. Yes, and other industries are no better ... No, they can’t redo these nonhumans, they will be warned of fate people and countries are deeply poh. Unfortunately I do not see other methods than punitive. Well, such individuals of another language and other methods of influence do not understand ...
      3. +1
        23 December 2015 18: 32
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        ! We look and listen to Mr. Chubais !!! corporate party you understand ...


        Andrey, my friend .. be .. "be careful" and .. "be careful" bully
        And in general ... read, periodically "new Laws" from the State Duma .. there are a lot of things .. "interesting" wassat

        State Duma News: search engines will be fined if they do not remove links to information about some citizens

        The State Duma has adopted a law on fines for Internet search engines for violating the "right to oblivion," Interfax reports. According to the document, the maximum fines for violation will amount to 1 million rubles. instead of the previously proposed 3 million rubles.

        For the first failure to comply with the requirements of the bailiff, the fine, according to the law, will be from 30 thousand to 50 thousand rubles. for citizens and from 80 thousand to 100 thousand rubles. for legal entities. For repeated failure to fulfill the requirements, citizens will be fined 300-500 thousand rubles, legal entities - 800 thousand rubles. up to 1 million rubles.

        The Law on the Right to Oblivion enters into force on January 1. The document consists of amendments to the law "On Information, Information Technologies and the Protection of Information", as well as to the Civil Procedure Code.

        The new law obliges the operator of the Internet search engine at the request of a citizen to stop issuing links to some information about him. In particular, we are talking about irrelevant information (which has lost importance due to subsequent events), false information, as well as information disseminated in violation of the law.

        ссылка - http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/567967b69a7947fb5e1bf120

        But what citizens will be the first to run to demand "the right to be forgotten" ???? wassat That's right ... they are the most lol
    3. +28
      23 December 2015 07: 07
      By the way in this topic. In "Arguments and Facts" last week I read that we have this year, according to official data, the subsistence minimum for the population has decreased. On average, somewhere around 400-500 rubles. So, according to the official version, we began to live richer smile No, I don’t whine, I understand that oil, sanctions, need to be tolerated and all that, but why frankly lie then why ??? And to whom do they pour it in the ears?
      1. +12
        23 December 2015 08: 26
        and we have officials in Russia 2 times more than in the USSR, and so 2 \ 3 of these comrades are scrappers sucking out of their fingers .... to receive bonuses
        1. -9
          23 December 2015 12: 36
          Quote: gorefest7777
          and we have 2 times more officials in Russia than in the USSR

          Yes, we have "economically unprofitable population" tens to hundreds of times more than in the USSR - and everyone is sitting on the neck of the State, from "collective farmers" on subsidies to "officials" at the telegraph mail - but without the State they would have died of hunger , it provides you, but you are not satisfied! request
          1. +1
            23 December 2015 13: 43
            Quote: Down House
            from "collective farmers" on subsidies

            At one time, even under the USSR, in the west there was a fund for the economic development of the land. According to him, 70% of the territory of the Russian Federation are unsuitable for housing and unprofitable for investment. I don’t think that since then the climate has somehow changed a lot. And this is for any capital. And for agricultural the territory of profitable investment is probably much smaller.
            1. -4
              23 December 2015 15: 30
              Quote: blogg
              According to him, 70% of the territory of the Russian Federation are unsuitable for housing and unprofitable for investment.

              Optimistic forecast, dear - in our country "70% of the territories" are generally NOT SUITABLE for normal living and investment - it is only here that they "proudly" built cities in permafrost, and in the west in a similar climate only if shift workers work - otherwise it is too expensive.
              But the remaining 30% are really unsuitable for housing and investment on a global scale ..
              Quote: blogg
              And for agricultural the territory of profitable investment is probably much smaller.

              S.Kh. in general, it is unprofitable not only in our climate, but in any more or less developed country - only plantations of tropical countries give profit, but we already know the standard of living of the "aborigines" working there.
              1. 0
                23 December 2015 23: 45
                Quote: Down House
                in our country "70% of the territories" are generally NOT SUITABLE for normal living and investment - it is only here that they "proudly" built cities in permafrost, and in the west in a similar climate only if shift workers work - otherwise it is too expensive.


                In Norway, Canada have not been, since you write such nonsense.
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        2. 0
          23 December 2015 13: 55
          Quote: gorefest7777
          and we have 2 times more officials in Russia than in the USSR, and 2 \ 3 of these comrades

          And where to put the population? The army will no longer digest. Power structures, too. And it’s expensive to build people there. T.N. business often kirdyk. That's the authorities and create jobs this way. Yes, they pay little. But 850-4900 rubles of unemployment benefits are also not clear.
          1. -2
            23 December 2015 16: 04
            Quote: blogg
            And where to put the population?

            Quote: blogg
            That's the authorities and create jobs in this way.

            That's right - the overpopulation crisis has touched us too hi
            And the most interesting thing is that taxpayers who pay for "state employees" and, if possible, DO NOT USE their services are much less outraged by their salaries than "state employees" fellow
          2. +1
            23 December 2015 21: 39
            Try these benefits again!
      2. +3
        23 December 2015 12: 36
        Quote: Letun
        No, I do not whine, I understand that oil, sanctions,

        If there were no sanctions, then the guarantor and his comrades would have invented them, since his economic policy has come to a standstill.

        Quote: Letun
        need to be patient and all that

        For some reason, this applies only to the common people, the top officials with the oligarchs are not going to “tolerate and all that”.
    4. +20
      23 December 2015 07: 08
      Hm. How skillfully at the top they play numbers. When you need to give the data in dollars, when it is more beautiful in rubles, then in rubles.
      1. +2
        23 December 2015 07: 43
        Quote: qwert
        Hm. How skillfully at the top they play numbers. When you need to give the data in dollars, when it is more beautiful in rubles, then in rubles.

        There is nothing new under the sun.
        I remember at the end of the 70s grain production was first started to be counted in centners. and in the 80s suddenly switched to pounds.
        1. +7
          23 December 2015 08: 35
          Quote: atalef
          There is nothing new under the sun.
          I remember at the end of the 70s grain production was first started to be counted in centners. and in the 80s suddenly switched to pounds.

          It also happened in the 70s, for example, when Kazakhstan collected a billion pounds of grain! bully The figure is beautiful, this is not 16 million tons, but a billion! laughing
          And so - the yield was considered in centners, the amount collected - in tons, and sometimes, for beauty - in pounds!
          By the way, in the Bryansk region, the amount of potatoes harvested was considered in tons - 800 thousand tons, 1 million tons, and not in pounds. 1 million tons sounds more than 16 million pounds. It was just twisted propaganda, nothing more. winked
          Greetings, Alexander! hi
        2. +7
          23 December 2015 08: 38
          Quote: atalef
          I remember at the end of the 70s grain production was first started to be counted in centners. and in the 80s suddenly switched to pounds.

          Praise be to Allah that is not in pounds and bushels. A pood, as it was sung in the movie "The Mysterious Monk" "he is 16 kilograms." Stability, whatever you say. But you are cheating, dear. In Ufa, on the square of the Council of Ministers, a poster was installed to announce the "battle for the harvest" and as of October 15, 1977, 2 million 714 thousand tons of grain were harvested in the BASSR. Young people can hang any "noodles" on their ears, but veterans of the Armed Forces cannot be fooled by chaff.
          1. +6
            23 December 2015 10: 41



            Newspaper True 12 August 1960 year p. 3



            Oh, and the old woman is a slammer lol
            1. +2
              23 December 2015 11: 28
              Quote: anfil
              Oh and to the old woman there is a hole

              You himself feminine enrolled?
              In your picture, the era of the reign of the Bald Kukuruznik is indicated, especially since the word SEVEN YEARS is indicated / by the way there is a settlement in "Bashkortostan" with this name /.
              In my "butting" with an opponent, the later era of the so-called. "developed socialism", namely the second half of the 80s. And marked the date and size of the harvest 1977. With the coming to power of "dear Leonid Ilyich" digitization moved from poods to centners and tons. Already by the end of 1969, the mention of the volume of the harvest in poods sounded like a wild anachronism, although it was occasionally encountered. As it was noted by the character "monkey" in the wonderful cartoon "... but in parrots I am much longer ..."
            2. 0
              23 December 2015 20: 21
              Quote: anfil
              Oh, and the old woman is a slammer

              Here's another read the data on the most grain district of Soviet Bashkiria:
              "Under the leadership of chairman TS Nazmiev, the collective farmers achieved good results. Thus, during the eighth five-year plan (1966-1970), the average grain yield on the collective farm was 26,4 centners, which is 8 centners more than in the previous five-year period."
              http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=15071
              Of course it would have been more in pounds, but until 1971 I myself lived in a neighboring area and on the radio I heard exactly the information that I am now publishing.
        3. +4
          23 December 2015 08: 44
          Is it in Israel switched to pounds? Interesting! We don’t remember that in the 80s they counted in pounds.
        4. 0
          23 December 2015 10: 16
          Well, in pounds, then it is certainly more. Digitally.
        5. +8
          23 December 2015 10: 24
          Yesterday in the news it was reported that GDP will have a new adviser on Internet technologies. They, therefore, calculated how much money revolves in this area. Soon we should expect the appearance of the ministry under this business.
          But I decided to create a site that could possibly bring me some kind of income. Now I don’t know. Is this business worth further development ..
          As Zuckerberg, I clearly will not, especially if I also introduce additional taxes.
          A country that replenishes its budget by increasing taxes is rolled back in its development only back. there can be no talk of any development!
          1. +7
            23 December 2015 10: 47
            Mark2! Soon, probably, in addition to the Internet fee, we will also pay for the maintenance and construction of Internet networks! For the maintenance of electricity will be introduced, Plato introduced. It is also necessary to introduce gas networks, water, heating and sewer systems! Plato has already collected 1,5 billion for a month. One tax benefit! Money comes right away! The cost of admission is minimal! This is a business! And do not need to build anything.
            1. -3
              23 December 2015 12: 38
              Quote: Region 34
              Plato introduced

              And they did it right!
              1. 0
                23 December 2015 22: 38
                That's it, and they did it right. But wait for the result. In the form of roads in good condition. You can’t imagine how many grain carriers go to Novorossiysk in summer and autumn! But the road is one and does not correspond to such loads. Stably broken. Lifetime traffic jams. Now they seem to have begun to expand, but there are places where there is simply nowhere to expand - at the entrance to the pass.
        6. 0
          23 December 2015 12: 37
          Quote: atalef
          I remember at the end of the 70s grain production was first started to be counted in centners. and in the 80s suddenly switched to pounds.

          Not, after all, probably not in the 80s. As far as I remember, all the news about the centners spoke. But after 1991, it may well be.
      2. -1
        23 December 2015 12: 37
        Quote: qwert
        How skillfully at the top they play numbers

        Come on, opposition journalists "twirl" them so that at the top they only blink with envy fellow
    5. +14
      23 December 2015 07: 09
      This is what GDP should answer ...
      This is what GDP should answer for.
      1. +18
        23 December 2015 07: 18
        Grandmas aren’t hard workers and the average business is withdrawing, and big business has grown together with officials and oligarchs, you don’t have to be too smart to know it. That is, those who manage and take part in managing the economy and withdraw money if they would like to punish, would punish, for everyone knows who withdraws money.
        1. +8
          23 December 2015 08: 29
          I like the super know-how "STATE CORPORATION OF SMALL AND MEDIUM BUSINESSES" more, however, apotheosis.
    6. +17
      23 December 2015 08: 22
      Quote: Aleksander
      Why is capital outflow allowed abroad?

      Everything is very simple here: LLC "Horns and Hooves" concludes a contract with the Argentinean company "Pampa" for the supply of horns and hooves in the amount of 10 million dollars within 2 years. Delivery terms - prepayment. A passport of the transaction is drawn up in our bank on the basis of a contract, money is transferred. two years later, the contract is extended for another couple of years - it is possible, but as a result, after 4 years, Horns and Hoofs LLC successfully dissolves in the vast expanses of the homeland, the last director and founder is a homeless person who has not seen anything in his eyes, a petty deny they gave him a drink - that's all! That is, in fact, the money went away 4 years ago, and the bank states that the goods were not received only after 4 years! Almost the same is the non-receipt of foreign exchange earnings from the export of goods.
      Moreover, it is not entirely correct to talk about the export of such and such amount of capital precisely in this year: capital - or goods - could have been sent several years ago, so the return import of purchased goods - or capital from the sale of this goods - should have arrived in this year, but did not enter. These are, after all, somewhat different things. By the way, on all such facts, cases of administrative offenses are initiated in various parts of Article 15.25 of the Administrative Code of the Russian Federation, as well as often criminal cases under Article 193 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. That's just find someone and bring to justice is extremely rare.
    7. +8
      23 December 2015 08: 23
      capital outflows are not exactly what many people think. This is not money invested in production and not investment, it is formal money, speculative capital, that is, exchange money earned in short positions. so what the Finance Ministry says is infa only for players, and more specifically for brokers.
      1. -4
        23 December 2015 12: 40
        Quote: gorefest7777
        it is formal money, speculative capital

        Yes, in general, "in secret" all large sums, the more billions are "virtual" sums - these are only those who have not even seen a couple of millions in rubles think that "oligarchs" are sitting on moneybags fellow
      2. +1
        24 December 2015 09: 29
        Sorry, you said stupidity!
    8. +6
      23 December 2015 08: 34
      Quote: Aleksander
      Why is capital outflow allowed abroad? Why is there only a statement of crime, where is the STATE?

      And what is the state?

      Quote: Aleksander
      This is what GDP should answer ...

      What for? He is with them, he himself spoke about this many times.
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    10. +14
      23 December 2015 08: 41
      Quote: Aleksander
      During his major press conference, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced //


      that the government as a whole is pleased. And this is AWESOME ....
      Why is capital outflow allowed abroad? Why is there only a statement crimeWhere is the STATE? This is what GDP should answer ...

      Option 2: GDP either does not want to stop this disgrace, or cannot
      1. +12
        23 December 2015 09: 19
        Yes, GDP is a servant of Chubais, and that he can ......
    11. +13
      23 December 2015 09: 36
      Because this state is the mechanism for withdrawing dough.
      And GDP is leading this process.

      Roundworms despise their carriers. He has no one to answer to.
    12. +1
      23 December 2015 10: 23
      Before you write such nonsense, take and study a macroeconomics textbook, especially a part of the trade balance. The country's trade balance consists of exports and imports. In Russia, exports exceed imports and we have a surplus in the trade balance. In WFP, our trade balance exceeds the US trade balance, which is skewed and deficit, with a large share of borrowings. So capital flight or capital outflow is nothing more than our import of goods and services into Russia, as well as our investment in foreign instruments, as well as our trips abroad and so on. The outflow of capital indicates the share of the country's imports. GDP said exactly the following: this year we reduced imports and maintained exports at the same level, by the way reducing the hydrocarbon component from 74 to 65 percent.
      Learn macroeconomics!
    13. 0
      23 December 2015 10: 45
      You wrote complete nonsense. Learn macroeconomics!
    14. -5
      23 December 2015 12: 23
      Quote: Aleksander
      Why is capital outflow allowed abroad?

      Because we have a free, capitalist and legal state, which is part of the global financial system! fellow
      Quote: Aleksander
      Why is there only a statement of crime

      Because this is NOT a crime, but a global practice that is fully consistent with international law.
      Do not agree? Let us then consider you a "criminal" if you have something imported in your property, but for a souvenir from Turkey you were immediately shot like a shpiena! laughing
      Quote: Aleksander
      where is the state?

      Does what he really needs to do - do not bother him! hi
    15. +2
      23 December 2015 16: 49
      Donkeys will never realize that sheep have long been overgrown with wool and should be sheared, but shepherds from other countries are cutting it.
    16. 0
      23 December 2015 21: 49
      And who is real GDP ???
  2. +13
    23 December 2015 06: 22
    The head of state is obliged to encourage his people. Even in such a difficult situation. There have been times in our lives that are much worse and meaner.
    Everyone understands everything, tea is not fools. Actually, we have not got out of the crisis these 25 years. It was just that there were periods when there was money in the country and something was falling over to the people. Then we lived a little better. Now the money is over. So we will again plant potatoes and strawberries at our dachas, everyone always has imaginary numbers in the economy, remember that Bismarck spoke about statistics.
    1. +2
      23 December 2015 08: 52
      Where will we plant potatoes? On the balcony? In the country? But it’s not expensive to keep the cottage? Can you take two crops of gene potatoes !? It will be interesting to know the cost of potatoes. Can I raise pigs and sell manure? Can. Buy a pig, give him a bath, buy dog ​​food ... What are the costs of growing?
    2. +14
      23 December 2015 09: 18
      You do not confuse with 90 mi, then the train ride cost almost nothing, and now if you go out of town on weekends, the potato will become golden ... And not everyone can store it ... It is necessary to live in the village, but then work how?
      1. +6
        23 December 2015 12: 23
        And here a rhetorical question arises: either the president, on naivety, relies only on, to put it mildly, the original reports of the Ministry of Finance and “does not dig deeper”, or sets himself up for such “support” only because it is by definition more convenient to rely on it ...


        ..or he does not understand nichrome in the economy
        because if I understood that probably the country would not fade away in wild capitalism
        1. 0
          24 December 2015 06: 20
          Quote: Burmeister
          or he does not understand nichrome in the economy ...

          Researchers at the Brookings Institution of Washington have found that Putin’s Ph.D. thesis contains significant borrowings from a 1978 Russian translation of a management study called Strategic Planning and Policy, which is authored by professors from the University of Pittsburgh, William King ) and David Cleland.
          The indicated work was allegedly translated into Russian by the “institution close to the KGB” in the early 1990s. Putin has been described as a plagiarist at the NI_MPU level (middle level).
          Vladimir Putin, already a rather high-ranking official in St. Petersburg [in reality, already the deputy head of the Presidential Administration, head of the President’s Main Control Directorate (GKU) - approx. publisher], defended his thesis entitled "Strategic planning of the reproduction of the mineral resource base of the region in the formation of market relations" [full title - "Strategic planning of the reproduction of the mineral resource base of the region in the formation of market relations. St. Petersburg and the Leningrad region" - approx. publisher] at the Mining Institute of St. Petersburg [June 27] in 1997.
          According to Dr. Clifford G. Gaddy of the Brookings Institution, 16 of the 20 pages of text at the beginning of the main chapter of Putin's dissertation work of 218 pages are copied “word for word” or with minimal changes from the corresponding study. Similarly, 6 diagrams and tables from the dissertation are also exceptionally similar to those borrowed from the same. “I have no doubt - it's about plagiarism,” - quotes the publication of the words of Dr. Gaddy.
        2. -1
          24 December 2015 13: 56
          Well, where did he go to the local Sharikovs
          So far, apart from various variations "take everything, and share" I have not heard anything interesting
    3. 0
      23 December 2015 14: 33
      So we will again plant potatoes and strawberries in their cottages

      A clip from the big difference for the crisis of 2008. [media = http: // https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = MNZWWVkZHjY]
    4. +1
      23 December 2015 16: 16
      Cap.Morgan RU Today
      The head of state should encourage his people


      Change "I" to "a" and then there will be an exact answer in this difficult situation. Yes, we understand everything, there were just periods when we barely made ends meet, and now the money ran out ... for the population. Due to taxes and high transport costs, and especially the prices of fuel and electricity, summer cottages are becoming an unjustified luxury for many people.
    5. 0
      23 December 2015 21: 51
      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      There have been times in our lives that are much worse and meaner.

      Well, this is unlikely.
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  3. KOH
    +41
    23 December 2015 06: 24
    If Putin will continue to be pleased with the work of the government, then next year the Communists will rule in the Duma, and United Russia will jump through the 5 percent barrier ...)))))
    1. +6
      23 December 2015 06: 32
      I completely agree with you good .
    2. +26
      23 December 2015 06: 34
      in the Duma will steer the communists

      And where do the communists come from in Russia? Import? Where from?
      Or do you think the Communists are members of the Communist Party?
      They have nothing but the name as the successors of the "profukal".
      There are not even new ideas. Theoretically, capitalism is constantly being renewed, and even these teachings of K. Marx and V. Lenin have been forgotten - not to mention that there is no "debriefing"
      1. +1
        23 December 2015 06: 39
        Quote: Just BB
        Or do you think the Communists are members of the Communist Party?

        They say they’ll choose from patriots and appoint them communists laughing
      2. KOH
        +5
        23 December 2015 06: 41
        But they will be chosen, have they heard anything about the protest vote ...?
        1. +2
          23 December 2015 06: 55
          Quote: CON
          But they will be chosen, have they heard anything about the protest vote ...?

          Yes, I saw just recently in Kiev on Maidan. From the best they chose directly on the street wassat
      3. +7
        23 December 2015 07: 01
        And where do the communists come from in Russia? Import? Where from?


        China is near .... there are one and a half billion Communists with the slogan ... One country, two systems.

        A couple of hundred million .... will solve this problem RUSSIA forever .... sad
        1. -2
          23 December 2015 07: 44
          Quote: The same LYOKHA

          A couple of hundred million .... will solve this problem RUSSIA forever ....

          Tomorrow China will attack, we’ll wait wink
          1. +4
            23 December 2015 08: 31
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Tomorrow China will attack, we’ll wait

            So you can laugh.
          2. +5
            23 December 2015 08: 37
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: The same LYOKHA

            A couple of hundred million .... will solve this problem RUSSIA forever ....

            Tomorrow China will attack, we’ll wait wink

            Eyes learning to squint? wink
            hi
          3. Hon
            +3
            23 December 2015 08: 57
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Tomorrow China will attack, we’ll wait

            why attack? will be rented, a start has already been made
        2. +12
          23 December 2015 07: 51
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          ... One country two systems.

          We lost this opportunity in 1983 along with the death of Adropov Yu.V. and the country fell in peak ....
        3. cap
          +6
          23 December 2015 07: 56
          Quote: The same Lech
          And where do the communists come from in Russia? Import? Where from?


          China is near .... there are one and a half billion Communists with the slogan ... One country, two systems.

          A couple of hundred million .... will solve this problem RUSSIA forever .... sad

          Yes ... well, if without weapons, and with your food ... wassat
          In the Chinese army, the call of the first echelon of 300 million!
          Thinking .... That's good. hi
          Mao, Stalin proposed to accept China into the USSR.
          He refused. I understood that at the next congress, the main Communist of the USSR would be a Chinese. With all the consequences.
          1. +17
            23 December 2015 09: 11
            What does the Chinese army have to do with it? You can conquer economically. Moreover, our president himself invites. Come, invest, build, produce! We ourselves are weak and frail! Shame. What great country can one speak of with such appeals? We openly say this to the world! We sell everything that is possible.
        4. +2
          23 December 2015 09: 03
          This is you about the accelerated development of the Far East probably. If the Chinese there marry and get elected to power, it is entirely possible that they will hold a referendum. Only a referendum will be on joining China.
      4. -2
        23 December 2015 07: 06
        Quote: Just BB
        And where do the communists come from in Russia? Import? Where from?

        If only from the mausoleum
        1. -10
          23 December 2015 07: 43
          Quote: atalef
          If only from the mausoleum

          Sanya, it’s been empty there for a long time. And for some reason I don’t see the line to go to the mummy to look from admirers of the mummy. Shout here on the site, no more lol
          1. +4
            23 December 2015 09: 42
            What you wrote is at least vile.
          2. +1
            23 December 2015 09: 46
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: atalef
            If only from the mausoleum

            Sanya, it’s been empty there for a long time. And for some reason I don’t see the line to go to the mummy to look from admirers of the mummy. Shout here on the site, no more lol

            Yes, perhaps on your Mumiy Troll, maybe more
      5. 0
        23 December 2015 07: 29
        Quote: Just BB
        And where do the communists come from in Russia?

        These will be, then for sure ....
      6. 0
        23 December 2015 08: 59
        And what does the communists mean? Probably the whole question is in the economic model. Or private business of a narrow circle of persons or public means of production. Uruguay in the 19th century and the Union in the 20th were smashed by private business! Social means of production is universal poverty and impoverished equality! And under capitalism there are no poor, are all rich and all live well?
    3. Boos
      +12
      23 December 2015 06: 38
      "United Russia" and its "zits-chairmen" should already be jumping through the felling ...
    4. 0
      23 December 2015 06: 39
      Quote: CON
      then next year the Communists will steer in the Duma

      Dream - dream, dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream lol
      And then who is the Communists-Zyuganov with his coden? So here on the site, do not ask anyone, no one voted for him, no one considers him a communist. And what are you dreaming of?
      1. KOH
        +3
        23 December 2015 06: 48
        And who said that I dream about it? They didn’t notice that the Communists accidentally didn’t appear in our governors ... ... ???
        1. -3
          23 December 2015 06: 57
          Quote: CON
          They didn’t notice that in our governors the Communists accidentally didn’t appear not ... ??

          Zyuganov’s, so they are not communists at all from the words of Saitov’s communists. You don’t confuse me, and soon you’ll completely cease to understand who a communist is.
          1. KOH
            +2
            23 December 2015 07: 57
            You confuse yourself, they call themselves Communists, that's why I call them that too ...
        2. 0
          23 December 2015 07: 50
          I noticed. They are usually sentenced to corruption very quickly. Probably because they are communists!
        3. +3
          23 December 2015 08: 34
          KOH: They didn’t notice that in our governors, by chance, the Communists didn’t appear ...
          You probably mean the Irkutsk region? So, in the very regional center, yes, there was a protest vote (there were observers, then and there). In the Bodaibo area and even deeper, observers with fire during the day. So, here, one hundred percent, not a hundred, but almost all for Levchenko ?! Evil tongues, they say that there is a person in the region - a real leader who did not share the construction with Eroshchenko. Here is the result. Oh, you say "accidentally." Politиbecause
          1. +1
            23 December 2015 10: 39
            In the Oryol region, the governor from the Communist Party is still that scumbag, with friends in gang circles.
            1. 0
              23 December 2015 10: 46
              In the Oryol region, the governor of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is still that scumbag, with friends in gang circles
              Oh, then. Without bandits, with us, no matter how. Or without others. Like from a movie: "a knock on the door, you think it came: this or that."
      2. +12
        23 December 2015 07: 32
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And then who is the Communists-Zyuganov with his coden? So here on the site, do not ask anyone, no one voted for him, no one considers him a communist. And what are you dreaming of?

        Obviously, Codla, you consider people like me. Because I voted for the Communists, although I myself do not rank myself among the Communists, I just think that we are the most decent people among the Communists. So I see it. That is why I vote. Interestingly, what do you specifically have against the Communists?
        1. -5
          23 December 2015 07: 42
          Quote: Stas157

          Obviously, Codla, you consider people like me.

          All Zyuganov’s Kodlu!
          Quote: Stas157
          Because I voted for the Communists,

          Wait a minute, so Zyuganovites are not communists.
          Quote: Stas157
          although I myself do not consider myself a Communist,

          Oh how it twists here laughing
          Quote: Stas157
          simply, I think, the most decent people among us are among the Communists.

          Yes, the most decent have sold and ruined the country. good
          1. +3
            23 December 2015 07: 58
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Wait a minute, so Zyuganovites are not communists.

            Then who?
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Oh how it twists here

            And to whom do you consider yourself? Who did you vote for?
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, the most decent have sold and ruined the country.

            Do you really think that Zyuganov ruined the country?
            1. +5
              23 December 2015 08: 06
              Quote: Stas157
              Do you really think that Zyuganov ruined the country?

              you really think. that he will restore it?
              1. +7
                23 December 2015 08: 15
                Quote: atalef
                you really think. that he will restore it?

                What do you think? Who will restore her? When I go to vote, I choose by principle the lesser of evils. For United Russia, in principle, I do not want to vote! All the bastards and thieves led by the governor are sitting there! The Communists seem to me the most decent.
              2. 0
                23 December 2015 08: 16
                Quote: atalef

                you really think. that he will restore it?

                Sanya do not bother to dream laughing
              3. +2
                23 December 2015 09: 21
                We believe those who have left for Israel will return to us. We will give everyone a territory equal to Israel. Can you imagine how powerful and strong Russia will be! After all, if you add up all the economies of Israel on the territory of Russia, then there will be wow what economy! After all, do you have a powerful economy without oil? You have. And if you also give minerals? After all, elementary take off to heaven! bully Are you against or for? Take leadership in Russia in your skillful hands. feel
                1. +5
                  23 December 2015 09: 40
                  We will give everyone a territory equal to Israel.
                  Will not work. To spin, you must constantly be subjected to pressure. Well, there the Arabs do not let you relax, do not put your finger in your mouth. And, here, yes, so much territory, freedom, a freebie, from neighbor to neighbor, seven days on a crossroads. Do you want to turn the Jewish people into Russians? Anti-Semite, however. laughing
                2. +3
                  23 December 2015 09: 51
                  Quote: 34 region
                  We believe those who have left for Israel will return to us. We will give everyone a territory equal to Israel. Can you imagine how powerful and strong Russia will be! After all, if you add up all the economies of Israel on the territory of Russia, then there will be wow what economy! After all, do you have a powerful economy without oil? You have. And if you also give minerals? After all, elementary take off to heaven! bully Are you against or for? Take leadership in Russia in your skillful hands. feel

                  If everyone on the territory of Israel, for my family (5 people), I would choose the Central Administrative District of Moscow (with the Kremlin), if it is possible or, at worst, Yamalonentsky (where is the oil being pumped?), Thanks in advance
                  1. -2
                    23 December 2015 10: 07
                    Quote: atalef
                    I would choose the Central Administrative District of Moscow (with the Kremlin) -if it is possible or At worst - Yamalonentsky (where is the oil being pumped there?)

                    Wrong. Why the hell, go to the Murmansk region. To your native places, there you will have an STS.
                  2. +1
                    23 December 2015 10: 43
                    Well no. Or Poland or the Pale of Settlement!
                3. +2
                  23 December 2015 11: 29
                  Quote: Region 34
                  Take leadership in Russia in your skillful hands.

                  They are already at the helm.
                4. +2
                  23 December 2015 13: 49
                  And with us, and so in the government, most Jews. And it’s not getting any better.
            2. +3
              23 December 2015 08: 14
              Quote: Stas157
              Then who?

              I don’t know, on the site all the communists are yelling that they are not communists lol
              Quote: Stas157
              And to whom do you consider yourself? Who did you vote for?

              Quote: Stas157
              And to whom do you consider yourself? Who did you vote for?

              For Putin
              Quote: Stas157

              Do you really think that Zyuganov ruined the country?

              Well you, he had nothing to do with it. He had never voted for the budget even while sitting in the Duma. He had nothing to do with it.
              And the most interesting thing is that, without voting for the budget, he constantly reckons all laurels (if somewhere, something good happened) and treats it as his merit. Such a kind of Yatsenyuk, all his victories, and the hryvnia exchange rate collapsed, and here I am By the way, he voted for raising salaries for deputies wink
              I’ve talked with one PR man, he’s doing PR in the elections. He worked with different parties and the Communists as well. So he tells me, Sasha, they’re all the same, EVERYTHING! All false and corrupt, and do not differ from each other, except for the names.
              1. +2
                23 December 2015 08: 23
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I do not know

                But, at the same time, you claim that Zyuganov is not a communist!

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                For Putin

                There is no such party! Obviously you are for the party in power, for our obese United Russia?

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Well you, he had nothing to do with it.

                So you only, that they accused the Communists of the collapse of the country!
                1. +1
                  23 December 2015 11: 18
                  Quote: Stas157
                  But, at the same time, you claim that Zyuganov is not a communist!

                  No, I just claim that he is a communist, but the communists on the site say no laughing
                  Quote: Stas157
                  There is no such party!

                  No so no
                  Quote: Stas157
                  ! Obviously you are for the party in power, for our obese United Russia?

                  The same obese as in the Communist Party
                  Quote: Stas157
                  So you only, that they accused the Communists of the collapse of the country!

                  So he’s a communist
                  1. +3
                    23 December 2015 11: 26
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Quote: Stas157
                    But, at the same time, you claim that Zyuganov is not a communist!
                    No, I just claim that he is a communist, but the communists on the site say no

                    Alexander!
                    hi
                    Warty ghoul - a party card holder in his pocket, a representative of the systemic opposition, sitting on state support No more.
                    The current governor of the Oryol region, Potomsky (God! What a disgusting face!) - Zyuganich's protege - as a clear example of the current ideology of the Communists. But on TV Zyuganov - well, just the protector of the common people! What are the slogans! I feel like crying from happiness when I listen to evonious recipes for saving the fatherland ...
                  2. +2
                    23 December 2015 12: 50
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    No, I just claim that he is a communist, but the communists on the site say no

                    So it seems like not long ago you argued that the "Zyuganovites" were not communists?

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    The same obese as in the Communist Party

                    No, the Communist Party will be more modest! All of our elite, all corrupt officials and gentlemen from the FORBES list, they are all just gathered in United Russia!

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    So he’s a communist

                    So how do you Communist Party managed to ruin the country? Why don’t you like communists so much, please share?
          2. +7
            23 December 2015 08: 29
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, the most decent have sold and ruined the country.

            Well, in your opinion, it turns out that decent people now rule the country. Then why are these decent people getting richer and the people getting poorer?
      3. +1
        23 December 2015 10: 05
        I constantly vote for the Communist Party! Probably nostalgia ... and the desire to support not only foreign policy. And perhaps Zyuganov will not be worse than Putin, who came out of Yeltsin's sleeve. The only thing is that "he will take something, but someone will give him .."
    5. +8
      23 December 2015 06: 46
      And after a couple of years (despite successes in foreign policy), he himself will be taken out of the Kremlin ... Only talk about the economy, real misery steps ..
      Quote: CON
      If Putin will continue to be pleased with the work of the government, then next year the Communists will rule in the Duma, and United Russia will jump through the 5 percent barrier ...)))))
      1. -6
        23 December 2015 06: 57
        Quote: dmi.pris
        And in a couple of years (despite successes in foreign policy) he himself will be taken out of the Kremlin.

        Another dreamer.
        1. +1
          23 December 2015 08: 17
          but do you doubt the abundance of idiots who will be sincerely sure that they are doing good for the country?
          I beg you, look at the neighbors. We have no less abundance of schizony
    6. +1
      23 December 2015 07: 04
      Quote: CON
      If Putin will continue to be pleased with the work of the government, then next year the Communists will rule in the Duma, and United Russia will jump through the 5 percent barrier ...)))))

      looks very much like the well-known
      from Khrushchev's report:

      “The current generation of Soviet people will live under communism! "
      “Our goals are clear, tasks are defined, for work, comrades! "
      “By the end of 1965 we will not have any taxes on the population”
      1. +1
        23 December 2015 08: 52
        Quote: atalef
        from Khrushchev's report:

        “The current generation of Soviet people will live under communism! "
        “Our goals are clear, tasks are defined, for work, comrades! "
        “By the end of 1965 we will not have any taxes on the population”

        And why do you equate the current Communists with the Soviet? Of those communists, Gorbachev and Yeltsin turned out to be, on the contrary, opponents of the Communist Party! The modern Communist Party took only the idea from the CPSU, it is not necessary to hang all the prosperities and sins of the old party on the Communist Party.
        1. 0
          23 December 2015 09: 53
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: atalef
          from Khrushchev's report:

          “The current generation of Soviet people will live under communism! "
          “Our goals are clear, tasks are defined, for work, comrades! "
          “By the end of 1965 we will not have any taxes on the population”

          And why do you equate the current Communists with the Soviet? Of those communists, Gorbachev and Yeltsin turned out to be, on the contrary, opponents of the Communist Party! The modern Communist Party took only the idea from the CPSU, it is not necessary to hang all the prosperities and sins of the old party on the Communist Party.


          Oh, new communists?
          Gut.
          1. +2
            23 December 2015 10: 31
            Quote: atalef
            Oh, new communists?
            Gut.

            I don’t understand, are you in doubt or are you upset?))
          2. 0
            23 December 2015 11: 30
            Quote: atalef
            Gut.

            Nostalgia? wink
        2. +2
          23 December 2015 11: 11
          But the backbone of the Communist Party, including Zyuganov, came from some other communists, not from the same ones that Yeltsin and Gorbachev gave birth to?
          Communists from the Communist Party of the Liberal Democratic Party as liberals, there is a letter in the name-and why the hell?
    7. +4
      23 December 2015 07: 39
      It’s important not who votes, it’s important who thinks ...
      Do you really believe in fair elections?
      1. -2
        23 December 2015 07: 47
        Quote: vitya1945
        Do you really believe in fair elections?

        Elections are not fair, elections are not fair, elections are not fair. You are not tired?
        1. +3
          23 December 2015 08: 42
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: vitya1945
          Do you really believe in fair elections?

          Elections are not fair, elections are not fair, elections are not fair. You are not tired?

          We are all tired - both those who insist that the elections are dishonest, and those who claim that the elections are fair - and the people - from both. As if other topics are missing! bully
        2. 0
          23 December 2015 15: 50
          He had experience in the election commission, with a bunch of OSCE observers.
          The minus is not mine.
    8. +1
      23 December 2015 07: 48
      Are you sure about that? Or remember the year 96. Maybe people wiser since then? I doubt it!
      It's easier for me from the point of view of conscience, I did not vote for Putin (well, he is not a hero of my play). But soon it will be as in 98. Who you do not ask, no one voted for Yeltsin, and who then yelled Yeltsin in the squares! Yeltsin !? And before that "Gorbachev, Glasnost, Perestroika"?
      You didn’t vote for United Russia and Putin at the last elections? True?
      1. 0
        23 December 2015 08: 18
        Quote: Hell Angel
        Are you sure about that? Or remember the year 96. Maybe people wiser since then? I doubt it!

        Well, you know better from London
        Quote: Hell Angel
        You didn’t vote for United Russia and Putin at the last elections? True?

        Voted tongue
      2. -1
        23 December 2015 10: 55
        Quote: angel of hell
        Are you sure about that? Or remember 96 year. Maybe people wiser since then? I doubt it!


        From this place in more detail, and what group do you belong to "Homo Sapiens" or "Homo Naturalis"
        1. -1
          23 December 2015 11: 07
          It is possible and more detailed. But the meaning? I will say that an ordinary citizen of the Russian Federation, believe me? I was born in the USSR and live in Russia. I don’t go to the polls on principle. The reason was mentioned above. For me, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin are the same. And I don't see the difference between them. Although there is one. The price of oil during their reign. Vaughn as soon as it collapsed, then the criticism of the current on "VO" sharply increased. Although a year ago neither - nor!
          I don't know why the flag of Great Britain. Vaughn Romanov has already "pinned". In the profile, everything seems to be right.
    9. 0
      23 December 2015 08: 21
      About the Communists: Your words to the people in the tower.
    10. 0
      23 December 2015 08: 29
      Do not wait!
      Votes in the elections are also considered by the statisticians ...
    11. +3
      23 December 2015 08: 31
      and how are the Communists now different from United Russia ?, I remember once in a transfer from Solovyov he asked them if they were ready to transfer their enterprises to state property .... the Communist Party functionaries were silent .....
    12. 0
      23 December 2015 08: 36
      They go to the polls in Moscow, St. Petersburg and the Caucasus there and try to swell money.
    13. Hon
      +3
      23 December 2015 08: 55
      Quote: CON
      If Putin will continue to be pleased with the work of the government, then next year the Communists will rule in the Duma, and United Russia will jump through the 5 percent barrier ...)))))

      EP will have the majority, possibly on the popular front, but it's just rebranding. After all, people are engaged in counting in elections. Wonderful people, wizards are just
  4. +6
    23 December 2015 06: 27
    While the "elite" will make money in Russia, store capital and acquire property in the West, we will hardly get out of the crisis until there is a real national elite.
    1. -3
      23 December 2015 06: 40
      Quote: avvg
      While the "elite" will make money in Russia, store capital and acquire property in the West,

      Wait a minute, and who of the elite is now storing their loot in Western banks? You can list.
      1. Boos
        +14
        23 December 2015 06: 54
        Maybe it's time to stop calling "fecal matter" the elite?
        1. -3
          23 December 2015 06: 58
          Quote: Boos
          Maybe it's time to stop calling "fecal matter" the elite?

          Fecal mass, and you from some country yourself? Open your aipi.
          1. Boos
            +2
            23 December 2015 11: 02
            I am a Russian person, I live in the Urals, and I see what is happening with my own eyes and the eyes of people close to me ... And the USSR flag took the site from me.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Boos
            Maybe it's time to stop calling "fecal matter" the elite?

            Fecal mass, and you from some country yourself? Open your aipi.
          2. +3
            23 December 2015 11: 35
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Open your aipi.

            Sanya, tell me honestly - why do you need IP? Or are you only judging the flag of people? So the server of the Military Review in Germany is located. wink
      2. +1
        23 December 2015 08: 28
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You can list.

        And 90% of the inhabitants of the Kremlin and (or) the oligarchs.
    2. Boos
      +6
      23 December 2015 06: 53
      Question? National elite, what nationality?
  5. +3
    23 December 2015 06: 33
    1. The author immediately puts in the head that all the money withdrawn from Russia stolen is stupid.
    As soon as, somewhere, in a country, an economic recession (crisis) begins, capital begins to look for safer places. This is happening everywhere around the world.
    A certain percentage of the withdrawn funds is of course stolen, but this is a trifle.
    And if now the outflow of funds has decreased, this means stabilization in the market sets in.
    At the same time, the fact that the GDP itself fell by more than 3,5% in 2015 is modestly omitted.
    Wait a minute, but is it someone hiding? as far as I remember, Putin spoke about the fall at a press conference.

    So, you can imagine a picture of this kind of reporting: a paper is laid on the president’s table in which it is written in black and white: the volume of capital outflows has almost tripled over the year, and the level of savings in the National State Fund has grown by 1% of GDP

    Of course, one can imagine if a country is ruled by a type similar to Klitschko. Or the author thinks that Putin is being deceived, and Putin is so naive that he doesn’t even notice it. Although there is a second option, the author knows nothing of what papers are put on Putin’s table. I
    for the second option.
    1. +8
      23 December 2015 06: 42
      "And if now the outflow of funds has decreased, it means that the market is stabilizing." Rather, it suggests that there is nothing special to display. And, there is no particular point in talking about statistical data. As you order, they will count.
      1. -3
        23 December 2015 06: 54
        Quote: Fokiigor
        Rather, this suggests that there is already nothing special to display.

        I asked two local Saitov’s economic experts. Do they have an economic education? One answered, but carried such a blizzard that there was nothing to comment on. The second replied that he had spent a whole semester at the university, then he was expelled. In this both are better than Putin and the government knows how to govern the country.
        Excuse me, what kind of economic did you finish?
        1. Boos
          +4
          23 December 2015 07: 04
          If who controlled the country? Or do you think this is management?
          1. -1
            23 December 2015 07: 12
            Quote: Boos
            If who controlled the country? Or do you think this is management?

            Well, it’s better for you anyway. Personally, you’re much smarter than Putin and the whole government, I have no doubt about that. And the fact that you do not have an economic education and you do not know what the balance consists of is garbage. The main thing is that you know how to manage a country-respect good
            1. +5
              23 December 2015 08: 24
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Well, it’s better for you anyway. Personally, you’re much smarter than Putin and the whole government, I have no doubt about that.

              Well, you doubt it or not, but the fact that Putin and his team can do nothing but rob and trade in raw materials is a fact. The ruble exchange rate and the price of oil are the clearest proof of this.
              1. Boos
                +2
                23 December 2015 11: 05
                Yes, contrary to the forecasts of "our" oligarchs, barrels of oil appeared in the shops "All for 36 rubles" ...
            2. +4
              23 December 2015 10: 02
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: Boos
              If who controlled the country? Or do you think this is management?

              Well, it’s better for you anyway. Personally, you’re much smarter than Putin and the whole government, I have no doubt about that. And the fact that you do not have an economic education and you do not know what the balance consists of is garbage. The main thing is that you know how to manage a country-respect good

              Sanya, the problem is that he doesn’t know the GDP either, he knows more precisely, but then you need to stop lying, and this is fraught
            3. Boos
              +1
              23 December 2015 13: 53
              For any decent person, it will definitely work better.
            4. 0
              23 December 2015 15: 40
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And the fact that you do not have an economic education and you do not know what the balance consists of is garbage. The main thing is that you know how to manage a country-respect

              It is strange that for all the time you have not been explained that economists of the Russian Federation are not needed - and with "Western education" they are generally dangerous! fellow
        2. 0
          23 December 2015 12: 24
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Excuse me, what kind of economic did you finish?

          Not quite a similar situation, but your argument inspired by ..

          "Judge: What is your specialty in general?

          Brodsky: Poet. Poet translator.

          Judge: And who admitted that you are a poet? Who ranked you among poets?

          Brodsky: None. (No call). And who ranked me as a human race?

          Judge: Have you studied this?

          Brodsky: What?

          Judge: To be a poet? We did not try to graduate from a university where they prepare ... where they teach ... "
    2. +2
      23 December 2015 07: 38
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      As soon as, somewhere, in a country, an economic recession (crisis) begins, capital begins to look for safer places

      Hi, Sasha, because after 25 years he has been looking for everything and everything in the West ..
      1. 0
        23 December 2015 07: 49
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Hi, Sasha, because after 25 years he has been looking for everything and everything in the West ..

        Healthy Nikolay. Someone considered the inflow of capital? Most of the dough is speculation, invested, grabbed and withdrawn. Outflow is considered by everyone, but from what it is composed units are considered hi
        1. +3
          23 December 2015 07: 56
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Hi, Sasha, because after 25 years he has been looking for everything and everything in the West ..

          Healthy Nikolay. Someone considered the inflow of capital? Most of the dough is speculation, invested, grabbed and withdrawn. Outflow is considered by everyone, but from what it is composed units are considered hi

          Hey . Sanya
          and here you are wrong. if it were in this area. automatic contribution - included in the category - investment. then flowing into the withdrawal of capital. but. investments specifically decreased (capital withdrawal is the same). but. if earlier in the withdrawal of capital (before the sanctions) - not a small share was precisely according to this formula investment (investment) - withdrawal of foam (withdrawal of capital) - now the outflow is practically Russian money. - withdrawal to offshore and loan payments.
          1. 0
            23 December 2015 08: 06
            Quote: atalef
            automatic contribution - included in the category - investment. then flowing into the withdrawal of capital. but. investments specifically decreased (capital withdrawal is the same)

            And I’m talking about who will invest in an unstable market. One is connected with the other.
            Quote: atalef
            now the outflow is practically Russian money. - withdrawal to offshore and loan payments.

            Well, the capital goes to a more quiet place, when it stabilizes, it ends. Or it becomes smaller depending on the conditions, and the stolen one, Sanya took him out a long time ago. Now the stolen kopecks are brought out, fawn.
            1. 0
              23 December 2015 08: 13
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And I’m talking about who will invest in an unstable market.

              None .


              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              and the capital goes to a more quiet place, when it stabilizes, it ends. Or it becomes smaller depending on the conditions, and the stolen one, Sanya took him out a long time ago. Now the stolen kopecks are being taken out, fawn.

              Sled output. and I will tell you why.
              Do you remember the tax amnesty - someone returned the money? and the conclusion continued. whoever needs money
        2. +2
          23 December 2015 08: 04
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          . Outflow is considered by everyone, but from what it is composed units are considered

          Sasha, it is considered by those who deduce ..))
        3. +8
          23 December 2015 08: 22
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Someone considered the inflow of capital? Most of the dough is speculation, invested, grabbed and withdrawn.

          Exactly. I invested, grabbed and brought it out. And before that, I imported capital, and only then "I invested, grabbed and withdrawn." Only this does not make the country better, but worse, because they grab here and take out more than they bring in, otherwise there would be no point.
    3. -1
      23 December 2015 07: 56
      Я
      for the second option.

      It was already. Our king is good - this is the boyars ...
      Putin is not d. As you can not take it away from him. And there are "alternative" sources of information.
      Here it seems to me something else. But here's what !? I think we won’t find out.
      1. cap
        +2
        23 December 2015 08: 21
        The boyars are good.
        But not all.
        The criminal case, which became known on Tuesday, was instituted on the fact of the activities of an organized criminal group with the participation of officials of the Department of Audit of the State Contracts of the Ministry of Defense, who, according to operational data, tried to receive bribes, RIA Novosti reports with reference to the Savelovsky court in Moscow. The same information is confirmed by materials in the Moscow City Court database.
        “The court extended the measure of restraint to Nedobor, accused of attempted bribe-taking (on an especially large scale), as well as Gennady Bauman and Irina Kuznetsova, who are accused of attempting to mediate a bribe. All three defendants in the case are set to be detained until March 15, ”a representative of the Savelovsky court said.
        He did not specify the posts of Bauman and Kuznetsova, noting only that all the accused appealed the detention. The Moscow City Court will verify the legality of extending the preventive measure against Kuznetsova on January 20, 2016; appeals from Nedobor and Bauman have not yet been assigned for consideration.
        The investigation believes that Dmitry Nedobor was part of a group of corrupt officials, consisting of employees of the military department and intermediary entrepreneurs, who demanded “kickbacks” from executors of state contracts. The criminal case of bribes was opened on October 15, however, the media learned about him only now.
        A source of Interfax called the amount attributed to the chief auditor of the Ministry of Defense of theft. “The organized group, which, according to the investigation, was led by Nedobor, is charged with an attempt to receive a bribe in an especially large amount - 48 million rubles,” the source said.
        This amount was to be distributed "to each of the members of the group in accordance with its role." “Naturally, the lion's share of this money was intended for the head of the department as a person on whom the fate of state contracts depended,” the source added.
        The Department of Audit of State Contracts is a very important unit in the structure of the Ministry of Defense, it gives an expert assessment of the value of state contracts, determines their initial (maximum) prices, monitors and analyzes the prices of purchased weapons.
        According to Kommersant, at first a criminal case was opened against a group of persons: both employees of the Ministry of Defense and civilians. But immediately a separate criminal case was opened for “attempted bribe-taking on an especially large scale” (Article 30, part 6 of Article 290 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) in respect of only the head of the department, Dmitry Nedobor.
        38-year-old Dmitry Nedobor headed the department recently, only in January 2015. Prior to that, he worked for about ten years at the Ministry of Finance - Deputy Director of the Department of Budget Policy in the Sphere of State Defense Orders. Prior to that, he worked briefly at the Ministry of Culture, where he was first a leading specialist and then deputy head of the department of international cultural cooperation. And even earlier - in 1994-2003 - he served in the state security organs.
        Despite his relatively young age, Dmitry Nedobor was once awarded a medal of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, II degree, as well as departmental awards of the FSB, FSO, FSIN, SVR, EMERCOM, FMS and FCS. In addition, he also has gratitude from the Russian government.
        A curtain. hi
        1. +1
          23 December 2015 08: 31
          Quote: cap
          38-year-old Dmitry Nedobor headed the department recently, only in January 2015

          departmental awards of the FSB, FSO, FSIN, SVR, MES, FMS and FCS

          wow, so aka Russian (Holly) James Bond..classic "hero of our time"
          So he went on a train for all the sins of V.T.H. predecessors ..
          1. +3
            23 December 2015 10: 05
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Quote: cap
            38-year-old Dmitry Nedobor headed the department recently, only in January 2015

            departmental awards of the FSB, FSO, FSIN, SVR, MES, FMS and FCS

            wow, so aka Russian (Holly) James Bond..classic "hero of our time"
            So he went on a train for all the sins of V.T.H. predecessors ..

            What is a significant surname-shortage.
            Then believe in the relocation of souls
            1. cap
              0
              23 December 2015 10: 44
              Quote: atalef
              What is a significant surname-shortage.
              Then believe in the relocation of souls

              WRITCHES would be more suitable! laughing

              Only those who have carried out a business useful for the state can be awarded such a medal, moreover, this does not necessarily concern military service or ensuring state security. Representatives of agriculture and transport, industry and construction, health and science, culture and education, as well as any other areas of work can receive this award.
              There are 2 degrees of the medal of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland", which are applied sequentially: the second and first, after which, with new merits, you can count on receiving the fourth degree order.
              There are 2 degrees of the medal of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland", which are applied sequentially: the second and first, after which, with new merits, you can count on receiving the fourth degree order. Many state awards, including the 1st or 2nd degree Order of Merit to the Fatherland medal, allow their holders to count on additional material support from the state.
              The current legislation of the Russian Federation provides for additional material support for persons awarded the following awards (indicating the amount of payment):
              • Order of Merit for the Fatherland, 330nd, XNUMXrd and XNUMXth class (XNUMX%)
        2. 0
          23 December 2015 09: 07
          Despite his relatively young age, Dmitry Nedobor was once awarded a medal of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, II degree, as well as departmental awards of the FSB, FSO, FSIN, SVR, EMERCOM, FMS and FCS. In addition, he also has gratitude from the Russian government.
          I was interested in the list of awards. There is an official paper, according to which, in order to receive a "gratitude" from the Ministry of Health of the region, 3 years must pass from the previous diploma (municipality). Then to "honorary" from the same Ministry of Health, another 5 years. Then, "from the governor" letter, another 5 years. And, only then, the diploma of the Ministry of Health of Russia. Accordingly, after another five. Well, and then there are other, higher, government awards. You cannot jump over a step! Interestingly, this comrade, began to receive diplomas (industry) from the 1st year of the institute or even before passing the exam?
          1. cap
            0
            23 December 2015 10: 23
            “And there were always a lot of people willing to generously“ scoop free money ”from the financial flows flowing from the military department to the defense industry. The cumbersome Ministry of Finance sometimes grumbled at the army’s arms customers (supposedly, it would be possible to save money here and there), the Ministry of Defense said: so that everything is transparent, give us your candidacy. May we have, as they say, your eyes and ears. And they found such a candidate.
            In January this year, the Department of Audit of State Contracts was headed by Dmitry Nedobor, a native of the Ministry of Finance. Until 2003, he served in the FSB, which inspired the army authorities to respect the Chekist, who, as you might have thought, should have clean hands. Yes, and the man seems to be tinned - he was awarded a medal of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, II degree, as well as departmental awards of the FSB, FSO, FSIN, SVR, EMERCOM, FMS and FCS. In addition, he also has gratitude from the Russian government.
            However, only 10 months passed after the appointment of the Shortage and the official was handcuffed. On October 15, a separate criminal case was opened against him for “attempted bribe-taking on an especially large scale” (Article 30, part 6 of Article 290 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation). Already a rumor has leaked from the bowels of the earth that we are talking about 48 million rubles. Investigators say streamlined: "The group included corrupt officials from the audit department and intermediary entrepreneurs demanding kickbacks." The criminals extorted money from the defense industry, promising them "a profitable placement of the state defense order." The defense industry and informed the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, and it - the intelligence services. (Mosk. Komsomolets)
            We will see.
    4. +2
      23 December 2015 08: 26
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      At the same time, the fact that the GDP itself fell by more than 3,5% in 2015 is modestly omitted.
      Wait a minute, but is it someone hiding? as far as I remember, Putin spoke about the fall at a press conference.

      And he weaved everything about oil prices, linking them to the development of the economy, thereby confirming that in Russia the whole economy is to sell oil and gas.
    5. -1
      23 December 2015 08: 42
      I agree with you, before declaring the entire outflow of capital from the country as stolen money, the author needed to understand the structure of funds withdrawn from the country and then questions would arise. For example, if I am a businessman and invested money in a profit-making enterprise, why can't I manage this profit at my discretion, even if I consider it necessary to withdraw this money from the country?
      Another question is whether the debts that Russian companies took from foreign banks before the sanctions and are now repaying are not considered capital outflows.
      And the third question, if a foreign investor first bought shares of Russian enterprises and then sold it, would it also be an outflow of capital? If so, what's wrong with that? In my opinion, nothing, but the statistics on capital outflows from these transactions will increase.
      1. 0
        23 December 2015 15: 43
        Quote: vadgen
        In my opinion nothing

        This is in your opinion, but there is also a "left opposition" for which any ruble that has gone abroad is a TRAGEDY - even if this ruble was sent to its historical homeland by a Tajik guest worker so that his family could buy flour there - which they will then bring from the Russian Federation! fellow
    6. +3
      23 December 2015 09: 35
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      it means stabilization in the market.

      Blessed is he who believes ... Stabilization in the market is coming, say? .. Well, well ... Maybe explain, why is this stabilization to come from? Have we solved all the fundamental problems in our economy? Has the manufacturing industry appeared to have any significant weight, the proceeds of which began to form the bulk of the budget? Has our financial system become focused on long-term work with industry? We have carried out a reform of the educational system and institutes, universities and technical schools began to train high-class engineers, managers and skilled workers? Maybe the construction of infrastructure facilities across the country has begun (only Gazprom with Olympics, please do not mention)? Please explain what your confidence is based on, if nothing has changed in the economy at all? Or maybe you know more than I do - so please tell us about your sources, am I ready to listen if I'm wrong? How can something stabilize with the price of oil 37 dollars per barrel and the dynamics of its decline in our commodity economy?
    7. +1
      23 December 2015 11: 41
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Wait a minute, but is it someone hiding? as far as I remember, Putin spoke about the fall at a press conference.

      San, at the show of the magicians? The emphasis is on small pluses, and negative events are blurred, but not hidden. Site type "Made by us" - a large list of open enterprises, but without specifying the owners and the number of workers. At the same time, information about the ruined enterprises and the number of fired people is silent (but not hidden!).
  6. +2
    23 December 2015 06: 37
    Medvedev D.A. probably running around the office with a tube and yelling into it: "CHEF, everything is gone CHEF ...")))
    1. +1
      23 December 2015 10: 07
      Yes, no, it’s just easier for DAM, it will be removed in the worst case and that's it
      1. +1
        23 December 2015 10: 17
        Yes, no, it’s just easier for DAM, it will be removed in the worst case and that's it
        Yeah, in Russia, they will "shoot", simply, with their heads together. And that's all.
        1. Boos
          +1
          23 December 2015 12: 04
          From the gallows ...
  7. +2
    23 December 2015 06: 37
    When you read about the volumes of capital outflow abroad, evil guys with bags and suitcases of money crawling across the border are immediately presented .. But capital outflow is the purchase of goods, items that are not produced, or little is produced in Russia, this is tourism with shopping .. and the acquisition of property abroad and other legal and non-legal actions ... Russia is a generous soul .. We think all about others .. there is no self ..
  8. +9
    23 December 2015 06: 40
    The capital that runs from Russia back and forth is speculative capital. From him, the economy is not cold, not hot. Officials doing it on kickbacks, simple speculators. In China, bought in Russia, as Russian or European sold. The difference was brought out. Or on the difference in currencies speculated and withdrawn. Keeping this money in Russia is not profitable. So they’re gone. But I repeat, such money did not and does not work for the economy. And they will never even work. Because it is not patriots of Russia who run this money, but ordinary hucksters with dual citizenship.
    But why so far we have not separated speculative capital from any other and will not prohibit the withdrawal of such capital, ask Putin, Medvedev, Ulyukaev, Shuvalov and other powerful people of this world!
    Perhaps this mafia is so strong that the government is afraid of it. But there may be more mercantile assumptions. I do not want to write about them. otherwise they’ll set me down.
    1. +5
      23 December 2015 06: 58
      That is all true. They deduce speculative capital that actually plays an insignificant role in the economy. However, the President, who is satisfied with the work of the government, is more worried. In all spheres of activity they rule (in leading positions) mediocre, poorly educated grabbers. This is a terrible misfortune ... and the Guarantor does not mind ... Misfortune.
      1. +4
        23 December 2015 08: 19
        Quote: smith7
        and the Guarantor does not mind ... The trouble.

        Who needs trouble, but a guarantee for income.
        1. 0
          23 December 2015 08: 29
          Or maybe it’s true ... At higher positions, people are educated and can speak smoothly, and work energetically, and are talented .. but their talents are in the direction of "who is in trouble, and who has income." So it turns out that "everything is parpala".
          PS I don’t want to believe that it is the Guarantor who receives income from “not against” top non-professionals.
    2. 0
      23 December 2015 15: 46
      Quote: indifferent
      But that's why until now we have not separated speculative capital from any other and will not prohibit the withdrawal of such capital.

      And you ask such questions, as if this capital and offshore companies only live in Russia fellow
  9. +6
    23 December 2015 06: 47
    are all those satisfied with the financial part, just a sight for sake, real income fell 2 times, and everyone is happy ... or is it that everyone gets paid in dollars?
    1. +1
      23 December 2015 10: 46
      Quote: Linkin
      are all those satisfied with the financial part, just a sight for sake, real income fell 2 times, and everyone is happy ... or is it that everyone gets paid in dollars?

      Considering that the discussion is taking place at the level of a dollar that has grown to 71 rubles. The following conclusion can be made: satisfied - receive a salary in dollars, dissatisfied - in rubles.
      About comrades from other, warm countries, a separate conversation.
  10. +7
    23 December 2015 06: 48
    no need to panic, people need to feel stability

    In what "pink" color do not imagine, but the people in Russia are not dusa, and they themselves see and feel what is happening in reality. If the foreign policy of the state is supported by the majority, then the same majority is wary of the domestic policy and does not even understand this policy. This is how we live, in spite of the enemies.
  11. +5
    23 December 2015 06: 58
    I remember "Black Tuesday" and the crisis of the late 90s, early 2000s and other minor ones. But in such an ass as now, I have never been. This is a real ass, no matter what squeals on TV !!! The people were lowered to the plinth, and they continue to be lowered. And the ass is not only in the sales segment where I work, but the same garbage for friends and acquaintances. In various spectra.
    Usually, under NG, the goods scattered, warehouses clogged under the ceilings. Now it’s silence, nobody orders anything even for the future, for a year not a single truck with goods came. Residues from 2013-2014 are on sale. What comes next, no one even thinks. Delays in the RFP began as in the 90s.
    But Mlyn Syria rusted with bombs. laughing
    In general, I feel that people will soon take up the pitchfork.
    1. 0
      23 December 2015 07: 12
      Quote: Glot
      I remember "Black Tuesday" and the crisis of the late 90s, early 2000s, and other minor ones. But in such an ass as now, I have never been. This is a real ass, no matter what squeals on TV !!!


      Remember poorly if you write this.
      If it’s not a secret, you won’t tell the name of the goods you are selling ?!
      Have you seen for yourself that "we are throwing rusty bombs at Syria"?
      1. 0
        23 December 2015 07: 24
        Remember poorly if you write this.
        If it’s not a secret, you won’t tell the name of the goods you are selling ?!


        I remember very well.
        We realize consumer goods.

        Have you seen for yourself that "we are throwing rusty bombs at Syria"?


        They won’t show you this on TV.
        But if you have anyone related to those events, and the source is verified, you can clarify.
        And if a person says no to you, then remind him of how, on takeoff, a group of journalists brought in specially to remove the "newest Russian bombs" used were forbidden to shoot it, and how the servants literally tried to wipe off the rust with handkerchiefs, but nothing came of it. The bombs were old and rusty.
        I assure you that I know that there is somewhat more happening than most.
        1. +1
          23 December 2015 07: 31
          Quote: Glot
          We realize consumer goods.


          Consumer goods are different.
          1. +1
            23 December 2015 09: 49
            Consumer goods are different.


            Of course. But there is such a thing - sales dynamics.
            And looking at this dynamics over the past, the year before last, you can add a picture of how it was and what is.
            1. 0
              23 December 2015 14: 49
              Quote: Glot
              But there is such a thing - sales dynamics.


              The dynamics of sales directly depends on the purpose of the goods.
        2. +1
          23 December 2015 07: 51
          Quote: Glot
          We realize consumer goods.

          Common consumption goods ? Well, I’m talking probably brandy trading.
          Quote: Glot

          They won’t show you this on TV.
          But if you have anyone related to those events, and the source is verified, you can clarify.

          Of course, only you have the most truthful truth wassat
          Quote: Glot
          I assure you that I know that there is somewhat more happening than most.

          The daughter of an officer?
          1. +3
            23 December 2015 09: 47
            The daughter of an officer?


            What for ?
            Just a good friend that week just flew in from there. smile
            Well, for Cheburashka - news on TV. laughing
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        3. +2
          23 December 2015 11: 45
          Quote: Glot
          The bombs were old and rusty.

          And rightly so! The warehouses are full of old stuff, but you wanted a "caliber" for each "spirit"?
        4. +1
          23 December 2015 15: 52
          Quote: Glot

          They won’t show you this on TV.

          You don’t have to remember about TV, we’re here "from the Internet" we haven’t watched TV for 10 years - we’d better wait for the engineers to let them tell you how rusty rockets fly! fellow
    2. 0
      23 December 2015 07: 21
      Quote: Glot
      I remember "Black Tuesday" and the crisis of the late 90s, early 2000s and other minor ones.

      Did you go to kindergarten?
      Quote: Glot
      People lowered to the plinth, and continue to lower.

      Before the baseboard, it was in '98, which you didn’t remember much.
      Quote: Glot
      Moreover, the ass is not only in the sales segment where I work

      What are you selling elite cognac?
      Quote: Glot
      Usually, under NG, the goods scattered, warehouses clogged under the ceilings. Now silence, no one orders anything

      I went shopping, people rampart, maybe you write from Ukraine?
      Quote: Glot
      But Mlyn Syria throwing rusty bombs

      Of course rusty, there were no others left, the shank in the country.
      Quote: Glot
      In general, I feel that people will soon take up the pitchfork.

      I think soon people like you will begin to plant.
      1. +5
        23 December 2015 07: 27
        I think soon people like you will begin to plant.


        I think when they will remove the last ports from people like you, they will scream all at once, shining with their bare backside. laughing
        1. +2
          23 December 2015 07: 51
          Quote: Glot
          I think soon people like you will begin to plant.


          I think when they will remove the last ports from people like you, they will scream all at once, shining with their bare backside. laughing

          Sanya just lives in Vladivostok.

          until the crisis reaches them-- for a long time.
          1. 0
            23 December 2015 08: 08
            Quote: atalef
            until the crisis reaches them-- for a long time.

            At AUTOTAZ, the crisis is waiting, at least with one peek at the viburnum
            1. 0
              23 December 2015 08: 14
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: atalef
              until the crisis reaches them-- for a long time.

              At AUTOTAZ, the crisis is waiting, at least with one peek at the viburnum

              she is import-substituting ... to the west.
          2. +2
            23 December 2015 08: 09
            Quote: atalef
            until the crisis reaches them-- for a long time.

            He smiled, but it’s true, he doesn’t see him all over the country at once .. in each region it’s different .. the region is subsidized, all the more, it’s noticeable at first, but then it’ll cover it all out ...
            1. +6
              23 December 2015 08: 23
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              He smiled, but it’s true, he doesn’t see him all over the country at once .. in each region it’s different .. the more subsidized the region, the less it is noticeable at first

              here I am about that.
              in the outback, little has changed.
              did not live richly. Nehru and start.
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              but then how to cover - everything is out ...

              Nicholas at all. if we discard our inherent irony. the situation is really out. the situation (in Russia) is much more complicated than in 2008 and there is no end in sight. of course there will be a rebound in oil prices (well, not until 70 of course 0 so around 50-60. but you understand. if this happens, VVP and Co. will present this as an achievement. although a year ago they said that at 80 per barrel, the global economy will collapse.
              so here. next year and 2018 - elections at all levels (including presidential) and yesterday’s law
              The State Duma adopted on Tuesday amendments to the bill on the FSB, which allow special services to use weapons when crowding to prevent a terrorist attack and free hostages.

              you understand. shoot first. and then they say they prevented the attack.
              All this heat in society. a crisis . search for enemies. spiral of militant rhetoric. - All this can splash out into problems and unrest in society.
              Well, that’s a lie.
              Do you remember the USSR - on TV congresses broadcast. promised - yes who believed in it 7
              that's when trust ends - then the countries develop in 3 days. and then they ask perplexedly. how and why?
              1. +2
                23 December 2015 08: 38
                Quote: atalef
                that's when trust ends - then the countries develop in 3 days. and then they ask perplexedly. how and why?

                Sasha, that’s what scares me, everyone’s already passed .. I’ll say so to myself, I can’t take the cart out of propaganda alone — we still didn’t sit down. Koreans and even Juche’s ideas, at least not at least
                I am constantly writing about the danger of the right-wing (with the Swamp) closing together with the common people, but Plato showed that the line has become thinner ...
              2. +1
                23 December 2015 08: 53
                Quote: atalef
                The State Duma adopted on Tuesday amendments to the bill on the FSB, which allow special services to use weapons when crowding to prevent a terrorist attack and free hostages.

                you understand. shoot first. and then they say they prevented the attack.


                Alexander, good day! Please answer: why in the countries of "victorious democracies" it has long been allowed "to use weapons in a crowd of people ...", and this is normal. Amendments have just been adopted in Russia, is the howl already beginning?
                1. +1
                  23 December 2015 09: 05
                  Quote: B.T.W.
                  Quote: atalef
                  The State Duma adopted on Tuesday amendments to the bill on the FSB, which allow special services to use weapons when crowding to prevent a terrorist attack and free hostages.

                  you understand. shoot first. and then they say they prevented the attack.


                  Alexander, good day! Please answer: why in the countries of "victorious democracies" it has long been allowed "to use weapons in a crowd of people ...", and this is normal. Amendments have just been adopted in Russia, is the howl already beginning?

                  With crowds, where is it?
          3. +2
            23 December 2015 09: 51
            Sanya just lives in Vladivostok.

            until the crisis reaches them-- for a long time.


            Sooner or later, it will reach everyone.
            1. 0
              23 December 2015 16: 40
              The crisis will definitely not reach me, since in such cases there is a large financial airbag.
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        2. Boos
          0
          23 December 2015 12: 07
          They will not be removed from such people, they work for the "system", from morning to evening on the site ...
    3. +2
      23 December 2015 07: 47
      Quote: Glot
      In general, I feel that people will soon take up the pitchfork.

      first come * pitchfork *, and then they will take up.
    4. -1
      23 December 2015 15: 51
      Quote: Glot
      I remember "Black Tuesday" and the crisis of the late 90s, early 2000s and other minor ones. But in such an ass as now, I have never been.

      I remember that in the late 90s my father drove 15-year-old Zhiguli, and now he drives a new "foreign car" (domestic assembly) and there are tens of millions of such people in Russia!
      Yes, the purchasing power "sank", but many have cut their "Wishlist" - they decided to drive the car not for 2 years, but for 3 for example - but to say that "the people were lowered" and he began to LIVE BADLY is at least an exaggeration!
      1. +2
        23 December 2015 15: 57
        Quote: Down House
        Yes, the purchasing power "sank", but many have cut their "Wishlist" - they decided to drive the car not for 2 years, but for 3 for example - but to say that "the people were lowered" and he began to LIVE BADLY is at least an exaggeration!

        Yeah ....
        In the provinces (not in Moscow!) Traffic jams, nowhere to put the car.
        But all the prospers stubbornly insist that all these "budget" cars are taken on credit. And they just can't answer the question: "What is paid for the loan?" wassat
        1. +2
          23 December 2015 16: 10
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          In the provinces (not in Moscow!) Traffic jams, nowhere to put the car.

          And Putin is to blame again! You see, "does not build" roads! With us, as if a person bought a car, then everything else should be immediately given to him for free - from gasoline to parking fellow
  12. +2
    23 December 2015 06: 59
    Quote: Resident007
    Medvedev D.A. probably running around the office with a tube and yelling into it: "CHEF, everything is gone CHEF ...")))

    If anything - this is a message with humor (by analogy with the famous phrase of the hero Andrei Mironov from the movie "The Diamond Hand"). For those who do not understand, there are three smiles at the end of the message.
  13. +1
    23 December 2015 07: 03
    I would like to look at this from a different point of view. In the Right to Know program, Dmitry Simes said about Russia's position in the world today: “Can you imagine what you are aiming at? The world order that has been forming for the last 25 years. But if you don’t have the strength to change anything, you should come to an agreement and accept what you have. But if you started, then you have to stand to the end, otherwise you will be crushed. " Therefore, in this situation, we have no choice but to stand on death. Either we will win or we will be crushed. And we must endure, perhaps, that it will be even worse.
    1. +4
      23 December 2015 10: 44
      Quote: sv-georgij
      Therefore, in this situation, there’s nothing left for us to do but stand to die
      Correctlysoldier Just decide what ?!
      For "Peskov's watch", or for "Vasilyeva's diamonds", or maybe the Ozero cooperative request ?!
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    1. +4
      23 December 2015 07: 11
      And you, when you go to sleep, do you "go to bed" or what?

      Don't write nonsense. Distinguish: "to lie down" and to lie down (in the text: the emphasis is on "and").

      Is snow falling on the ground or do you think it is put on it? ..
      1. 0
        23 December 2015 07: 23
        Quote: Volodin
        And you, when you go to sleep, do you "go to bed" or what?

        He is from Kazakhstan, although he doesn’t seem to be from Holland, but not from Germany already. They all do not speak Russian there. Do not pay attention, especially when Saag writes.
  15. +5
    23 December 2015 07: 12
    And all these statistics are from the evil one. That we do not know who Chubais is and others like them, but we know perfectly well the entirety. There is a president and there are Russians, but between them there is almost nothing. There are officials, there are local authorities who do not decide anything, and how the hell are they afraid of responsibility and as a consequence of decision-making. There is no power vertical for today. Therefore, they not only do not help but also interfere. And as it seems to me today is the most important and painful topic.
  16. +1
    23 December 2015 07: 32
    The best conditions for the preservation of capital in countries where the money supply is formed at the expense of value added to manufactured products. This is an investment, including. If nothing happened with the change in the outflow in terms of rubles, then here is how to look, or you (looking at my comment) what orientation? For red or white? That is, in rubles the volumes of withdrawal of funds abroad remained the same. Consequently, the RF GDP did not suffer radical changes. Here either rejoice that it did not fall (just 1%), or grin that it did not grow and failed (by a whole 1%!).
    What is happening has clearly characterized the raw material nature of our economy - raw materials. The price of oil will rise - the dollar will fall and the outflow in dollars will increase, while the ruble will not change. They are not in a hurry to invest in our national economy: corrupt bureaucrats are also expensive. In the real sector - the same thing, but with additional risks in the form of a sharp drop in living standards and living conditions and a decrease in the purchasing power of the population in a country where already on the official radio they say that 1% of the population owns 70% of the resources. Here you need to change everything from the top. And this looks like perestroika. Perestroika is feared and hated by the majority, which is dangerous for those on top. Those who are in the "happy 1%" are better off waiting for a rise in the price of raw materials. And the rest ... it's dangerous here - over the hill, the revolution in Russia is awaited like manna from heaven. And it will all start with appeals to get rid of the oligarchs and proactive officials. And the calls will go from behind the hill through their NGOs.
    Someone very smart was in the 90s in advisers to the then rulers.
  17. +4
    23 December 2015 07: 43
    I read the comments and realized that people from the article are pulling out phrases to justify their ignorance. No one shouts that he got rich, but all of a sudden they quickly found a reason or justification for all the negative things happening around "They are to blame" !!! But that's why we allow it? a bribe to make your business exist, you also become the same "onyvinny".
    1. +6
      23 December 2015 08: 13
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      by giving a bribe to make your business exist, you also become the same "onyvinny".

      Is there really only one businessmen in the country? And the nannies, orderlies, miners, locksmiths, turners and many, many ...
  18. +6
    23 December 2015 08: 03
    It is very uncomfortable to look into the eyes of a cashier who has been calling you "Doshirak" for the third evening in a row.
    1. +2
      23 December 2015 08: 05
      Quote: vladimirvn
      It is very uncomfortable to look into the eyes of a cashier who has been calling you "Doshirak" for the third evening in a row.

      Is she really jealous? wink
    2. +4
      23 December 2015 08: 19
      Quote: vladimirvn
      It is very uncomfortable to look into the eyes of a cashier who has been calling you "Doshirak" for the third evening in a row.

      But I don’t have money for simple pasta? Although I had something similar when I was 20 years old, but then it turned out that she hawala him and we decided to hav him together winked
      1. +4
        23 December 2015 10: 22
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But I don’t have money for simple pasta? Although I had something similar when I was 20 years old, but then it turned out that she was hailing him and we decided to havan him together winked


        Just the same romantic story with Doshirak happened! smile
        As I read it, I immediately remembered the words from the song:
        So united young hearts
        So my father’s mother found out. wink
      2. 0
        23 December 2015 15: 17
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        and we decided to haink it together winked

        A true romantic - and with a doshirak is magnificent! Well done! love
        1. 0
          23 December 2015 15: 18
          Flowers for the lady, cavalier hi
  19. AZ
    -5
    23 December 2015 08: 08
    Putin is waiting for “they” to take the first step. It is in the spirit of aikido. Then to make a return move. Everything is already ready for him - BRICS, EAEU, TS, FTA. If you can enter your currencies without asking us, then why can’t we pay in our own without your new dollar, no matter what it is called? We can do without your tomatoes. But what will it be like without our oil and without our gas? Ask Europe ...

    In any war, the most dangerous thing is reassessing one's own forces and underestimating the enemy. A true warrior is one who has the composure to strike on time and at the right point. In martial arts, the ability to use the time increases the ability to use the forces and goals of the opponent against himself. In this case, the superior power of the enemy becomes the cause of his death ...

    Time works against them and for us.

    Here you will have such a peacock-mawlin.

    http://www.putin-today.ru/archives/18790
    1. +8
      23 December 2015 08: 31
      Quote: AZ
      Putin is waiting for “they” to take the first step. It is in the spirit of aikido.

      Well, yes. well yes
      Quote: AZ
      Then to make a return move

      oh my god. Today my daughter (she’s 10 years old) told me (after I tell her, you write me an email. What do you want for NG. And I’ll talk with Santa Claus)
      - so she means, Dad. Well chesslovo. I know . Santa Claus is you laughing
      And you all believe in fairy tales laughing

      Quote: AZ
      Everything is already ready for him - BRICS, EAEU, TS, FTA.

      Is the PZZ not in this list?
      Quote: AZ
      In any war, the most dangerous thing is reassessing one's own forces and underestimating the enemy.

      that's for sure. -more sanctions a year ago shouted good
      Quote: AZ
      A true warrior is one who has the composure to strike on time and at the right point.

      or make hara-kiri. when I realized he was caught lying
      Quote: AZ
      In this case, the superior power of the enemy becomes the cause of his death ...

      the death of capitalism is inevitable - like a sunrise.
      1. +3
        23 December 2015 09: 10
        Quote: atalef
        the death of capitalism is inevitable - like a sunrise.

        Time works against them and for us.

        Well, Sasha, you missed such a passage ... probably neighing ..
        1. +1
          23 December 2015 09: 41
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Quote: atalef
          the death of capitalism is inevitable - like a sunrise.

          Time works against them and for us.

          Well, Sasha, you missed such a passage ... probably neighing ..

          Akella missed sad
          1. Boos
            0
            23 December 2015 14: 23
            Will Russian feudalism defeat Western capitalism? ) Everything goes to the point that soon there will be no one to sell our oil ...
    2. +2
      23 December 2015 10: 56
      Putin is waiting for “they” to take the first step.
      -----------------------------------------
      or maybe enough already in the yard in the domino chopped, but bark with the neighbors? He can go home, nail a nail there, otherwise his wife saws and saws for a month. Children have fallen off hands, it’s empty in the refrigerator. Ah, Vova? Moreover, the house is huge, what a lot of work.
  20. +5
    23 December 2015 08: 10
    When comrade Putin V.V. praised the work of his government, in my opinion a few phrases were missing: "The government is working for the top three. Can you imagine? Everyone says that they (the government) are two, but no!"

    And more:
    Following the results of Medvedev’s visit, the Chinese Xinhua News Agency made a statement that while the Russian government has the current level of competence, China is not going to carry out serious economic projects with Russia!
    1. +1
      23 December 2015 09: 29
      Can I link to Xinhua in the studio?
      1. 0
        23 December 2015 10: 34
        In contact, the news of 19.12 was following the results of Medvedev's visit.
      2. 0
        23 December 2015 10: 34
        In contact, the news of 19.12 was following the results of Medvedev's visit.
      3. 0
        23 December 2015 13: 13
        http://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/4904889
      4. 0
        23 December 2015 13: 13
        http://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/4904889
  21. +2
    23 December 2015 08: 11
    And here a rhetorical question arises: either the president, on naivety, relies only on, to put it mildly, the original reports of the Ministry of Finance and “does not dig deeper”, or sets himself up for such “support” only because it is by definition more convenient to rely on it ...

    It is more convenient. It is more convenient, including, to keep your rating.

    And if you focus on real numbers, you have to admit that the peak of the crisis has not even been passed ...

    Is the peak of the crisis passed? It seems to fall into the pit for a long time to come.
  22. +3
    23 December 2015 08: 16
    Good article, everything is in detail painted and chewed, + to the author. On the topic of the article ... I would here pay special attention not to the figures for the withdrawal of funds from Russia, but to the very fact of such a withdrawal. It is clear that our economy is going through far from the best period in its life (sanctions, lower oil prices, etc.) and the outflow of funds is a natural process in this situation, but we must also ask another question, why should foreign investors believe in the economy Russia, are there any prerequisites? Here, even their own population does not believe that everything is normal, as we are described in the media, and we don’t even have to talk about a foreign investor. Therefore, our government needs to put all its efforts into economic recovery, focus on domestic politics and create a competitive economy that will not be based on oil and gas revenues, but on final products, there are at least three areas in which we can offer a lot to the world 1) MIC 2) Agriculture 3) Science. Everything is just fine with the Military-Industrial Complex, the costs of reviving the armies have given a second wind to our military industry, and now we can successfully compete with other players in world markets, but this is not the limit but only the beginning, you can set a goal, take 50 % of the arms market and go for it. Agriculture here is not so good here, but the prospects are HUGE, we are the largest country in the world, we have a huge amount of land that you can use, introduce investments in this industry, new technologies, and we will feed the whole world. Moreover, it will be possible to rely on environmentally friendly products, in Europe and the USA there are problems with this, in the pursuit of over-harvest they use a lot of harmful chemicals and thereby spoil the land, plus the active exploitation of the land is also not a plus, but we have clean land and huge territory. This needs to be used, but the need for food will only grow, which only China and India with their population are worth :) well, and Science. Now we are in crisis in this area, the government’s hopes for Skolkovo and innovations have not been realized, but you can use the potential of the Novosibirsk Academgorodok, Irkutsk, Tomsk, etc. you just need to give decent financing, set a goal, and the results will soon be felt, of course, the education system will also have to be redone, but it's worth it. We have many interesting projects, all the time there are articles about how our scientists discovered something (a new alloy, medicine, etc.), it is necessary to encourage and help, and if we do all this, our country will have a really bright future.
  23. +5
    23 December 2015 08: 17
    We now have devastation in cities and villages explained by the lack of investment. Bribes, or what? Do you need investments to bury the pipe and not to asphalt after that the pavement? Whom? Strauss or Hubboard? The investment system is flawed from the outset, because instead of a development plan, for example, a "land development plan" arises, which, as a result, is plundered or destroyed to please some Turk or American.
  24. +9
    23 December 2015 08: 22
    He has repeatedly emphasized that the most annoying is the stupid lies of our authorities.
    Let the naked truth be told - as it is - the people will understand and support. Russians are still able to rally in difficult times.
    Remove the open abomination from human eyes, give people meaning and an idea. Not that the whole population lives without sense, but each has his own, different and there is no unifying component.
    Satisfaction and the joy of joint collective participation in any significant or simply useful projects, participation in the construction of a new, advanced, breakthrough mean much more to us than jamon in the refrigerator and Porsche in the garage. And it must be used.
    The farther into the forest, the more I become convinced of the incompetence and lack of will of the government.
  25. 0
    23 December 2015 08: 30
    And where are they not manipulating statistics? Each leader reports turning out the numbers, or says so you won’t understand how they thought. According to statistics, we did not even have a crisis. Listen to the governors, everything is fine in the regions, and salaries and social programs. but in fact they are transferred from one pocket to another.
  26. +5
    23 December 2015 08: 38
    Our dialogues about the economy resemble a situation when, looking at a sieve, people talk about why it is being poured from it. Moreover, economists claim that the sieve is clogged and is no longer being poured, they are repeating to them politicians so as not to cause panic among the population, and the people, coming to the store and receiving a salary, understand that it is being poured.
    The existing model of the country's economy and finances is designed so that Russia supplies important resources for the Western economy, receiving in return Western products, i.e. provided the development of the western economy to the detriment of its own interests. And this vicious scheme for Russia should work without fail, for which we are crushed by sanctions, placed around the borders of missile defense and bases and are outraged by the country's attempts to defend itself.
    In general, nothing new: we became the new Indians for the USA, whose gold was first exchanged for glass beads, and then simply destroyed.
    And that Russia-Russia supplies energy resources, from the supply of which the West will turn its nose, and we will make excuses. Yesterday, too, they made excuses to the West for transferring Ukraine from a free trade zone to the Russian National Library.
    What can I say, it's a shame for the state.
    For a country to be strong, its economy must be independent. Exactly as much as its internal resources allow. And they allow. To defend your interests, you need to look back, remember the time when the country developed, developed in spite of severe shocks, and take the best from that period, take into account mistakes and develop your economy. And stop sagging in front of the west, they’re not worth it. For the evil that has been done to Russia for centuries, they will answer before history — life will punish the West. But that is not our concern.
    There is nothing special about this. If we were able to change the model of the economy once, crouching in the west, we can change it for the second time, it’s time to expand. The state must regain control over the movement of capital. The volume of strategic resources exported from the country in the form of hydrocarbons should be equal to the volume of goods strategically important for the development of industry to be imported into the country. The only way. And no waste paper of green color with portraits of the enemies of mankind. The main food products in the country should be of Russian origin, enough to poison people with chemicals. And everything that a country can produce itself must produce. That's all.
    When there is nothing to pinch us for, then the West will understand that it is flawed in essence.
    1. +3
      23 December 2015 10: 54
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The volume of strategic resources exported from the country in the form of hydrocarbons should be equal to the volume of goods strategically important for the development of industry to be imported into the country. The only way.

      Not certainly in that way. Exports should significantly exceed imports. But not strategically important resources, but goods. And the export of strategically important resources should be minimal and reduced to zero. For the rest, you said wonderful.
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  28. +5
    23 December 2015 08: 52
    It seems to me that the top of the country does not even imagine how bad the people are in reality (how do they know - they live in Moscow, they have not lost their income ...). What's the bottom - what are you talking about ?! To simply reach this very bottom means slowing down the crisis phenomena in the economy, starting to help the people. And for this, you need to do something for the benefit of the economy and ordinary citizens. But none of this is being done - I don't see - kill me! In the meantime, only "verbal diarrhea" is coming from the stands - everything is fine with us, everything is fine with us - I have not crap.
  29. +2
    23 December 2015 08: 55
    I remember the recent statement by the authorities about the identification of many companies in Russia with a predominance of up to 80% of foreign owners. That is, virtually complete control over the assets of Russia. And after that, we are surprised that the capital is exported abroad? This business creation scheme has existed for a long time! in the fishing business, in the 90s, I watched the emergence of fish catching offices in Murmansk. And so, for all types of raw materials in Russia! And where did the young billionaires of Russia suddenly appear? Business did not need a big mind, only connections with "partners" abroad and local officials. True, some types of strategic raw materials (nickel, non-ferrous and oil) demanded a serious "roof" from high-ranking officials and local brothers. A bright example is Prokhorov, Khodorkovsky and other "sowers in their pocket"!
  30. +4
    23 December 2015 08: 57
    When with garlic people, there are much more chances to solve the problem, because there is more constructiveness and more truth. And cries in two opposite styles from "Do not rock the boat" to "Everything is gone, it's time to get out of this country!" have never led either to constructiveness, nor to the full-fledged, and not declarative, exit of Russia from crisis situations.

    No one will be "like garlic" with us, and why is this necessary, what will change from this? The people are being zombified by external threats, sometimes artificially created. So that people endure all this chaos and lawlessness and think: "We will survive, if only there is no war!" And, in the meantime, they were slowly dying out.
    As for the 2 types of screams, I do not agree. Not 2 kind of screams in Russia. A lot of them. Lots of. The most basic is the third type of screaming, which was not mentioned by the author, this is the scream of people who understand that the country has been systematically pushed into the abyss since 1991, that not everything has been lost yet, something needs to be done. You don’t want to notice these screams, but you divide people into omnipresent people and those who are satisfied with the situation in the country, because they have adapted to the gangster-thieves system and have learned to earn good money in it like the gangster-thief authorities, only at a lower level and in smaller scale.
    1. 0
      23 December 2015 09: 32
      Chaos and chaos? What kind of country are you talking about?
  31. +3
    23 December 2015 09: 07
    They consider everything on average, so far so good. The people eat cabbage, they eat meat, on average, the country eats cabbage rolls.
  32. +4
    23 December 2015 09: 10
    In the USSR, all financial statements were made in comparable prices, i.e. the base year was taken and the indicators of the current year were recounted in the prices of this year, in this case an objective picture of the situation was obtained. The current unfortunate economists, and simply crooks, consider how anyone likes it, if only the authorities show a positive report and receive a bonus. Accordingly, decisions are made with such reports. They need to be driven out of government.
  33. +2
    23 December 2015 09: 10
    Before declaring the entire outflow of capital from the country stolen money, the author needed to understand the structure of funds withdrawn from the country and then questions would arise. For example, if I am a businessman and invested money in a profit-making enterprise, why can't I manage this profit at my discretion, even if I consider it necessary to withdraw this profit from the country?
    Another question, but are not debts that Russian enterprises took from foreign banks before sanctions, and now repay, considered an outflow of capital?
    And the third question, if a foreign investor first bought shares of Russian enterprises and then sold it, would it also be an outflow of capital? If so, what's wrong with that? In my opinion, nothing, but statistics on capital outflows from these transactions will increase.
    1. +1
      23 December 2015 09: 23
      But nothing that controlling stakes in companies in the hands of foreigners?
  34. +4
    23 December 2015 09: 32
    Putin is GOD!
    America is the end!
    In Europe - buggers!
    In Russia - all hurt yourself!

    Along the way, there is a sobering up of the people. Even the birch-bark propaganda according to the First cannot convince the working man that he had increased money.
  35. +1
    23 December 2015 09: 35
    Quote: vladimirZ
    In connection with the cited figures of our economic indicators, including in the speeches of President Vladimir Putin, it was recalled that "there is a lie, there is a big lie, and there is statistics."
    The thing is that almost any digital reporting data of any activity at the request of a person who wishes to receive a favorable, neutral and negative assessment of activity in statistics can be obtained.
    It all depends on the skill of working with these numbers and the task that is assigned to him from a senior managerial rank.
    The criterion for checking all this "statistics" is the real life of the Russian people, the prices in stores and the real wages of people, the falling ruble against the dollar.
  36. +3
    23 December 2015 09: 37
    Quote: Million
    Quote: Aleksander
    During his major press conference, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced //


    that the government as a whole is pleased. And this is AWESOME ....
    Why is capital outflow allowed abroad? Why is there only a statement crimeWhere is the STATE? This is what GDP should answer ...

    Option 2: GDP either does not want to stop this disgrace, or cannot


    Option 3 - He leads it
  37. +2
    23 December 2015 09: 39
    "If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia now, I will answer: they drink and steal ..."

    "The Russian government must keep its people in a state of constant amazement."

    M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin
  38. +1
    23 December 2015 09: 45
    Quote: AZ
    We can do without your tomatoes. But what will it be like without our oil and without our gas? Ask Europe ...

    Alas, in my opinion, you are mistaken. If Europe had a critical dependence on our hydrocarbons, then South Stream and Nord Stream 2 would have been built long ago. And the routes of the Ukrainian GTS were patrolled by some Russian-European PMC. In the meantime, Gazprom is spinning like a frying pan so as not to lose the European market.
  39. 0
    23 December 2015 09: 49
    Only for some reason it is not taken into account that a significant part in the withdrawn capital is made up of speculative money of foreign investment funds and repayable foreign loans.
  40. +2
    23 December 2015 10: 20
    Money does not lead away from a good life. The bulk of transfers to offshore and Western funds is due to fear of the seizure of these funds by our security forces, because of this, a huge debt of companies is constantly supported, because if a company has no debts and has a steady profit (and the amounts are not small) it’s almost 100% that the raiders will try to take the company .

    Therefore, that would not be such a big drawback, judicial reform and investment reform are needed. When to invest in Russia will be profitable and safe. And to say that in this case it is necessary to ban the export of capital is stupid. We need to deal with the problem and disease, and not its consequence.

    I myself work in a company that the raiders are constantly trying to take, but the director deftly maneuvers, pledges something, takes loans, insures. Because of this, hold on for now_)
  41. 0
    23 December 2015 10: 28
    Instead of consolidating society in this difficult time, they continue to butter up the fish soup with all sorts of lullies. Since the beginning of 2000, there has been plenty of time to deal with the fight against corruption, modernization of the economy, import substitution and "getting off the needle." But all this was done only in a declarative form, for now, when the thunder struck, the government was bustling to take urgent measures. Well, how to take, there are only one measures, an increase in the financial burden on individuals and small and medium-sized businesses, that is, the introduction of additional levies, they do not know others.
    Quote: SarS
    And more:
    Following the results of Medvedev’s visit, the Chinese Xinhua News Agency made a statement that while the Russian government has the current level of competence, China is not going to carry out serious economic projects with Russia
  42. -2
    23 December 2015 10: 29
    Yeah, would sooner "come * pitchfork *"
    1. +3
      23 December 2015 10: 41
      Yeah, would sooner "come * pitchfork *"
      You, as I understand it, have no children. Or from the beautiful far, can anything be desired by others? According to observations of many years, do not wish evil, otherwise it will return.
  43. +2
    23 December 2015 10: 38
    Quote: SarS
    In contact, the news of 19.12 was following the results of Medvedev's visit.


    What kind of news is this? Give a link to a normal news agency, you can English
  44. +2
    23 December 2015 11: 55
    The fact is that last year, the amount of capital outflows from Russia amounted to more than $ 148 billion.

    Well, let’s say, although personally I don’t know who and how I thought.
    But what's wrong with that? Do you know what, for example, the "capital outflow" in developed countries in the USA or the EU to the same countries of Southeast Asia for example?
    This is, after all, "private capital", during this time how much money did you spend on the resorts of Turkey-Egypt? fellow
    Did all of your billions count? Probably thought that it was only your right where and what to spend personal money on, relaxing in Egypt and buying Korean Samsung.
    But what, capitalist ministers, unlike you, are worse people or what?
    And most importantly, what does Putin have to do with it again ?! fellow
  45. +1
    23 December 2015 12: 07
    - Summed up the results of the year.
    - And How?
    “What, and how?” Failed, I say.
  46. +3
    23 December 2015 12: 11
    Quote: vladimirZ
    In connection with the cited figures of our economic indicators, including in the speeches of President Vladimir Putin, it was recalled that "there is a lie, there is a big lie, and there is statistics."
    The thing is that almost any digital reporting data of any activity at the request of a person who wishes to receive a favorable, neutral and negative assessment of activity in statistics can be obtained.
    It all depends on the skill of working with these numbers and the task that is assigned to him from a senior managerial rank.
    The criterion for checking all this "statistics" is the real life of the Russian people, the prices in stores and the real wages of people, the falling ruble against the dollar.

    //////////////////////////////////////////////
    I have been sailing on Soviet research ships for fifteen years. The chief mechanic "grandfather" received good bonuses for saving diesel fuel: our ship ate about 900 tons of fuel per month. In a narrow circle, washing the next prize for a "glass of tea", my grandfather always used to say - it is not diesel that makes savings, but a ballpoint pen in skillful hands ... This is me about "increasing efficiency by 1 percent" and "economic growth by 0,2 percent ".
  47. +4
    23 December 2015 12: 15
    By the way, here we were talking about communists in the State Duma
    Quote: atalef
    Do you really think that Zyuganov ruined the country?
    you really think. that he will restore it?

    I’ll degenerate my opinion on this topic. I think that if the United Russia party couldn’t ditch the country, then the Communists won’t do it anyway.) laughing
    Quote: CON
    If Putin will continue to be pleased with the work of the government, then next year the Communists will rule in the Duma, and United Russia will jump through the 5 percent barrier ...)))))
    And if the next thought is vague, then the population will benefit from it, because it will be much more difficult to promote anti-people’s laws than for example now when such laws pass simply with a bang and in the shortest possible time (probably in anticipation of the end of their hegemony), and professional economics should operate a highly competent government. In general, in my opinion, when the pro-government parties have an overwhelming majority, this very negatively affects the well-being of the broad masses of the population and even if it is a new front-line, it will still be biased power and not the interests of the people in the first place. So it’s in vain to be so dismissive of the Communists, because in our time it’s hard to find people who are more decent than them, ideological and not spoiled by the authorities, especially in the primary ranks.
  48. +2
    23 December 2015 13: 20
    It is more convenient for Putin to rely on "crafty" figures. He once said that after the collapse of the ruble, gasoline has fallen in price! True, in dollar terms. , does not the person know? Maybe he keeps people for someone.
  49. +4
    23 December 2015 14: 31
    Crisis-schmisis, lured, frankly. This is not a crisis. So, flowers.
    Well, think about who will invest in production in Russia if our costs only for capital construction and heating are much higher than in most manufacturing countries. The oligarchic clique has chosen the niche in which they are competitive in the global market - resources. Plus, the production of necessary food products and the defense industry are developing. It is clear that we are talking only about essential products, tomatoes and tangerines do not belong to them. They can also be imported. This is necessary for the food and military security of the country. Thus, both the state and the owners will invest in Russian production ONLY if the market closes. When there are no competitors. But it is precisely the closure of the market that will lead to a crisis, when only bread and meat in the form of offal will remain from food, there will be nothing to wear, Belvest will not shoe the whole Far East, and Belarusian manufacturers will not dress the whole of European Russia. In half a year, all personal and most of the public transport will stop without foreign spare parts. Only "Lada-Kalina" will remain on the move, and they will be chased after a terrible deficit. I am already silent about computer equipment and civil communication systems. Moreover, everything that will rise in price is SCARY. Because if under capitalism you have what many want to buy, then you will arrange an auction and sell to the one who gives more.
    Like the picture? Of course, in years through 5-10, when the production of raw materials and then the enterprises for the production of goods are first established, the situation will begin to improve. But for some reason I don’t think that domestic products will be too cheap and affordable. And that there will be many of them. Well, who will minimize profits by filling up the market with cheap goods, if there is an opportunity to weld more on fewer goods at high prices? The oligarchs know how to count money. And nobody else in Russia can lift the production.
    So. There is no crisis, but what is there?
    Yes, just an economic war. Americans hit the ruble late last year with oil prices and interventions. And ours took the ruble and devalued it. As a result, the state's stockpile for domestic consumption has REALLY grown. I once cited calculations that raising the dollar by 1 ruble gave us funds for a month of pension payments. The operation is brilliant, but as they say. "it was smooth on paper." Well, what kind of Stakhanovite of capitalist labor will allow Korean radishes to cost more than their environmentally friendly bits from the airport area? Of course, he (or she - a retired grandmother) will gladly raise the price by exactly the same 100% as the Koreans because of the devaluation of the ruble. And so will everyone. And then it will be long and tedious to swear that ALL prices have increased by 100%, and the pension has only been added by 4%, and the salary has been cut altogether. And again the government and the GDP are to blame. But it is not he who raises the price of meat products of local farmers, and not Nabiullina and not even the oligarchs. On the contrary, for the entire first half of the year, the same gasoline was kept in place. But no one cares, prices both grew and grew further. The so-called "small business" maximized profits. Well, in the second half of the year, the oligarchs took their toll, raising all tariffs and prices of natural monopolies, and a lot of your profit remained?
    What should be the conclusion? Haha, capitalism, we need a tough planned economy with elements of small business that cannot greedily affect macroeconomic indicators.
    1. +2
      23 December 2015 14: 54
      could put five pluses, would put)). planned economy as a ridge with elements of private business.
      1. 0
        23 December 2015 16: 54
        Quote: troy
        could put five pluses, would put)). planned economy as a ridge with elements of private business.

        I support, about business there is an example of China that has made an economic breakthrough.
    2. 0
      23 December 2015 16: 52
      "WHO will start investing in production in Russia if our costs only for capital construction and heating are much higher than in most manufacturing countries" - ask these guys - who invests - http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/? id = 106
  50. 0
    23 December 2015 14: 33
    author well done. clearly formulated the question. In America and Europe, the crisis is not so noticeable, because our hucksters invest in them during the sanctions. it is an economic sabotage that leads to the collapse of the state - there must be one payment for it — a wall. Moreover, to hide, we are in a state of war, albeit hybrid, but war. and why not announce it? are we afraid of our sworn partners?
  51. +1
    23 December 2015 16: 40
    Got up early in the morning, turned on the TV,
    And there they say there is a crisis in the economy
    First in America, later in Europe
    A global complete ass is looming
    If everyone does, then they won’t let us through
    The f*ck sneaked up on Russia unnoticed
    Well, unnoticed, it’s been a whole year already
    The f*ck is getting stronger and stronger.

    So this, I note, by the way,
    Not just good, but even very, very
    But I hardly agree that this is bad:
    At least in some ways we have caught up with America.

    So that the crisis does not find me at home,
    I decided to start by calling my friends
    And they tell me your call is impossible
    There is no money in the account - the crisis has begun, bitch...
    I go down to the entrance - the elevator does not work
    What the fuck? After all, there is a crisis - the elevator operator says
    Under crisis and a dog of unknown breed
    Defiantly shitted at the entrance

    So this, I note, by the way,
    Not just good, but even very, very
    Get into trouble in the morning too,
    There is such a sign - to be rich and good!

    I'm going to the store - it's closed for lunch.
    I haven't seen this for many years
    What kind of lunch? Time - 9 am!
    Look, everyone is in crisis, but this one sucks
    There are many of you, but I am alone here.
    Don’t you know that the country has entered a crisis?

    So this, I note, by the way,
    Not just good, but even very, very
    We won't eat - we'll play sports
    We will beat the Chinese for the Olympics in Sochi!

    I happily rush to the office to work,
    And there’s silence there, like it’s Saturday
    Why is it so dark and silent all around?
    So crisis! Now we save on everything:
    On technology, on phones, in the world
    Paper, ink and even rent
    We decided to rent an office once a month.
    To come here to get paid

    Salary? For what? For what kind of work?
    But you can’t help but pay, because according to the Labor Code

    And this, I confess, by the way,
    Not just good, but even very, very
    Finally our Russian people
    I began to understand what the word “Labor Code” means

    I'm coming to the bank, don't stand there
    We're fine, don't worry
    Yes, I would just like to take the money
    Where will you take it? To whom should I give it?
    Well, Sberbank, Vneshtorgbank, Gazprom, Bank of Moscow...
    What are you talking about, why, just think about it
    Well, how much interest can they give?
    And I’m already offering 25!
    No, you should probably withdraw my money,
    I can take it at whatever percentage you want
    Do you want a hundred or maybe two hundred?
    Money is not the main thing, because we are together!

    This, I note, by the way,
    Not just good, but even very, very
    After all, the West is rotting, try them
    Get two hundred per annum without straining
    And this, I note, by the way,
    Not just good, but even very, very

    And the fact is that the simple motive was cut short,
    And there is perhaps the main positive in this song

    Alexander Pushnoy – Crisis
  52. 0
    23 December 2015 21: 26
    Quote: Dilshat
    Whatever you call the boat, it will float: the ruble is a chopped ruble and will always be so, the dollar comes from the German - thaler, which means gold. Symbols still have meanings. It seems so to me.

    Dear Dilshat! In Russia there is a proverb: if it seems so, you need to be baptized. But you probably have problems with the banner of the cross, hence the problems with the dollar. Thaler is not a German word, but a Dutch one and simply means “plate”, and in German “Teller”. Golden in Dutch is "guilder", compare with the German "golden". So there are no symbols in the buck, but there is a complete scam... of honest citizens
  53. 0
    23 December 2015 22: 03
    what are you doing?(

    they are waiting for investors.

    Investor is a person or organization that places capital with the aim of subsequently making a profit.

    Tobish, for their 1 ku we will give 5 ku.

    and this is called a moneylender.

    investors coined the word. just say so right away I’M SELLING THE COUNTRY NOT EXPENSIVE.