Germany in shades of brown ... From January 1 to 2016

The topic today is somewhat unexpected. Not for politicians or the military. For ordinary people. We were so convinced that Hitler perfectly imparted immunity to fascism to the Germans, that there would never be any problems with that. Fascism for Germany, in our opinion, is unacceptable, and will never be revived. Any reaction from Germany about the Nazis was instantly followed by a reaction. What do you mean? In Germany, Nazism is a crime! And the Nazis simply can not appear. Because the Germans no longer want to repeat the 1945 of the year.

However, time has shown that fascism is still attractive to radical youth. Fascism is tenacious and not destroyed. He just changed. Disguised and adapts to modern realities. Moreover, today we see that fascism in many countries increasingly takes quite significant positions in politics, economics, and ideology.

Today, no one doubts the fascist nature of the Ukrainian government. No one speaks with horror about the right in European countries. Everyone "squinted" in order not to see this phenomenon. What for? Well, the Nazis have fun, burn a dozen cars on their marches. They will receive faces from the police and calm down. Why disturb the peace of the inhabitant? Moreover, this man in the street has completely forgotten how to fight. Own well-being, the fight against excess weight, the purchase of a new smartphone - for him the most important things. And he leaves politics to politicians. They earn on it.

But not all Europeans are passive. There are those who offer to fight. True, the struggle from the outside looks like a mirror. The struggle, which, most likely, will lead not to the destruction of Nazi ideas, but to the spread. Counter-propaganda for propaganda.

So, in Germany, the Association of German teachers plans to partially teach the political manifesto of Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" for schoolchildren 16 and older, the website of the German newspaper Handelsblatt reports.

So, no more and no less. Introduce into the curriculum of schoolchildren the main book of German fascism. True, the goal, as I wrote above, is noble. To instill in young people a hatred for what they are learning. Reveal, if I may say so, anti-people and aggressive nature.

Theoretically looks quite. An intelligent anti-fascist teacher tells the students point by point that fascism is bad. And all imbued with faith in this very bad. But in reality? Will such a "vaccination" work in modern Europe? Where more and more young people take to the streets simply because they belong to a national, religious or other movement.

Today in the European philistine there is a large degree of fear of "new Europeans" from Arab countries, from Eastern Europe, from Africa. Europeans feel they can lose their homeland. And regardless of country of residence. Europeans are losing Europe. They lose that world, which for many centuries was unshakable. In which there were some traditions.

And there is another fun thing. Who do you think supports such ideas? For a normal person, the answer is clear. Rights. And no. The main guardians of the new school course are the Social Democrats. Deputy Ernst Dieter Rossmann from the Social Democratic Party of Germany supported this idea.

"Rip off historical masking this anti-Semitic anti-humanist polemic pamphlet and explaining the propaganda mechanisms with the help of appropriately qualified teachers is the task of modern education. "

"A critical analysis of Mine Kampf will increase resistance to right-wing populism in the Federal Republic of Germany."

Moreover, according to the BBC, in Germany they plan to print the original source for the first time since the post-war period. It is "Mein Kampf". True, the circulation is limited, only 4000 copies. And the book will provide 3500 with comments. It seems like Hitler’s thoughts are fenced from young minds.

But the main thing is not the number of books. And comments are more like a cover from curious journalists. The main thing is that now this book will be freely available. Not only in specialized libraries, but also on sale. And there are a great many writers, commentators, and other "experts" who criticize critics. And I'm not sure that their comments will be perceived worse than those printed in the book.

The first edition of this book was in 1925. That is, long before Hitler came to power in Germany. In 8 years, the ideas embodied in the book helped the author to become the ruler of not only the state, but also the souls of the majority of Germans. Total for 8 years!

I do not think that modern Germany is capable of quickly becoming a fascist state. I can say with confidence that the Germans are really trying to prevent the revival of fascism in their country. But ... there is a pair of "but."

The first "but." Germany is now, no matter how offensive to the rest of Europeans, the leader and legislator of political and economic fashion in Europe. It is Germany that now serves as a ridge for all other EU countries. And a lot of people, voluntarily or involuntarily, are associated with this country. And not just connected, they think like Germans. So, Mein Kampf is no longer a German problem. Mein Kampf is a problem throughout Europe.

What are the consequences of the appearance of this book, for example, in the Baltic States? After all, there will be no trained teachers. There will be ordinary teachers who themselves are largely infected with the ideas of Nazism. And so it can be said about the majority of small European countries.

And the second "but." What is Germany itself today? This is not the German state that was under Hitler. This is no longer a German state. Germany today is a country outside the single nation. A country where the Germans are no longer the overwhelming majority. The country, most of whose population has arrived there in the last 20-30 years. And how this Germany behaves today is very difficult to say.

I do not know how events will develop further. I don’t know if German teachers will be able to talk about fascism and Nazism in such a way as to raise hatred for this ideology. The only thing I am sure of today is not the time to fight fascism in this way.

Detailed, even with critical remarks, the study of such books will give the new supporters of fascism a real, already proven, way to seize power. And supporters of fascism can be not only Germans, but also German citizens of other nationalities.

Does Europe want to revive what has already cost humankind enormous human and material losses? Or is Europe looking to protect itself from its tolerance? Ways to protect against refugees? In any case, for us it is a call. The signal to prepare for the next radicalization of the West, but already in brown tones.

A "Mein Kampf" from the first of January will be available in any bookstore. Or read in the library.

Comments

[Ajent cho]

Again, Berlin will have to take ...

[Glot]

Again, Berlin will have to take ...

No, I don’t have to. What has been will never be.
Since it was correctly noticed, the Germans are not the same, and not the Germans in the majority. And we, alas, are not the same.

[Tatyana]

Against the background of the corrupt national policy of the pro-American thing Frau Merkel in Germany with her excessive foreign migration policy, eroding German identity, it is not at all surprising that ordinary Germans, as a “prosperous” political ideology for themselves, begin to remember the extreme opposite of A. Merkel - namely A. Hitler with his "Mein Kampf".

[CONTROL]

... but let's remember another - but also extreme - opposite: "A ghost wanders across Europe - ..."! and we will republish, in a larger circulation! Moreover, the volume is much less than "his struggle" ...

[Tatyana]

A VERY IMPORTANT NOTE!
It must be taken into account that the unspoken "dream" of the pro-American Merkel, which she brings to life, is to create in Europe from the EU countries precisely the NADNATIONAL QUASI-STATE, in which there will be nothing institutionally national - i.e. the national states themselves in their present form will no longer be at all and the borders between them will be eliminated and blurred forever. Moreover, this quasi-state will have one common government, one common bank, one common currency (euro), one common armed forces, the same laws and orders. They do not only talk about what national language will be the state language in it. And we see how Europe is steadily moving in this direction. An attempt to get off this "train" on the go is made only by England in the person of Cameron.
Moreover, the tactical tool for creating such a quasi-state is precisely A. Merkel’s foreign migration policy for unlimited reception of “refugees” to Europe from the countries of BV and Africa; a policy whose task is to dilute the national identity of the indigenous population of European countries by non-Europeans - and people from another civilization. At the same time, it is adventurously assumed that TOLERANT multiculturalism will allow Europe to become that very melting pot for all peoples - indigenous and newly arrived - as it was in the USA. Hence, partly the presence and criminal actions of the medieval DIASH, destabilizing the peaceful situation in the BV, behind the scenes A. Merkel is quite satisfied with the taciturn. Not to mention the illegally extracted Syrian and Iraqi oil, delivered to Europe from the DIASH through ports in Turkey.
In fact, the pro-American Frau Merkel in terms of establishing the so-called so-called The “new world order” with the hegemony of the United States fulfills the globalist strategic task of the United States itself - namely, the creation in Europe of an orderly consolidated European colony of the United States.

[samuil60]

Nobody thinks about any "melting pot". If this message was voiced during the creation of the European Union, then, apparently, the world government abandoned this idea: these non-humans are well aware that no one will be able to "melt" MILLIONS of "refugees" from Islamic countries. And now we are talking simply about the destruction of Europe, the destruction of European Christian civilization. It was not possible to liquidate it with the help of total debauchery - for all the "successes" in this field, hundreds of thousands of demonstrators in France, the obstinacy of parents in Germany and dull resistance across the continent showed that it would not be possible to turn the Old World into a temple of pederasts quickly. And then the "heavy artillery" - Islam was launched. Apparently, according to the plan of the rulers of the world's destinies, Europe should become a new world caliphate, or, if it does not work out, become a "black hole" - like Ukraine. And a "center of power" can be created from, for example, China. Or ... Russia. How do you like this prospect?

[Tatyana]

Dear samuil60!
The fate of Europe is multivariate tactically, but the strategic essence is the same - American colonization in the spirit of establishing a “new world order” in Europe with US hegemony at the head. The dark forces of globalism are killing Europe in all possible directions.
If I'm not mistaken, Obama once let slip that the fate of Europe is a foregone conclusion - and lies in its 100% Muslimization and assimilation of the "white" indigenous population among the arriving masses of "colored" people. The same Obama, in exactly the same way, once spoke with confidence about the fate of Russia. Therefore, the Russian Aerospace Forces, among other things, protect not just the sovereignty of Syria, as such, from the DIASH thugs, but also proactively protect Russia itself from medieval radical Islamists.

[EvgNik]

Quote: CONTROL

Moreover, the volume is much less than "his struggle" ...

Not only this. "Mein Kampf" is generally a stupid book, and "Manifesto" is presented briefly, vividly and publicly.

And the book will be provided with 3500 comments. It seems like Hitler’s thoughts are fenced off from young minds.

Have you seen at least one person who reads comments on a book? I am not. They certainly are, these people, but, mainly scientists, researchers writing comments on comments, and just any reader will not dig into the jungle of comments on the book. Since he will have his own perception and someone else’s is absolutely not interesting to him.

[mark2]

Have you seen at least one person who reads comments

Seen it. We all sit here and count comments. In the 21st century - the transitional century, Forums are also a kind of book.

The forum on VO is generally above all praise.

[populist]

EvgNik
Have you seen at least one person who reads comments on a book? I am not. Of course they are, these people, but mainly scientists, researchers

Let me introduce?
I read, but not a scientist ...

[satris]

In-in. "The teaching of Marx is omnipotent because it is true." And what? Socialism has been building for 70 years ... and where is it? If we recognize the power of the propaganda of ideas, then we must recognize the power of the propaganda of any idea - everything depends on the propagandist. So, listen to "many and different", and then? And then - "I listened to you all for a long time and carefully and finally understood: well, you are all fools!"

[mark2]

... but let's remember another - but also extreme - opposite: "A ghost wanders across Europe - ..."! and we will republish, in a larger circulation! Moreover, the volume is much less than "his struggle" ...

Yeah with the comments. 55 volumes with commentary will fit into several hundred books.

In total, that same ghost wrote 55 volumes!)

By the way, a collection of works by V.I. Lenin can be bought for 22 rubles. not expensive, I would say .. You can buy on "ozone". but I say right away, there are no pictures.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Glot

Since it was correctly noticed, the Germans are not the same, and not the Germans in the majority. And we, alas, are not the same.

This is a constant story that "our generation is not the same, but in those days it was awesome!" funny, if we want or want to do it or do it.

PS If I’m not mistaken, then the Arabs were not against it, but with both hands for Nazi Germany, so it’s possible that there will be a bet not on those Germans.

[Tatyana]

Speaking about the situation of Germans in Germany, one forum member once told MODERN GERMAN JOKE
An ordinary foreign migrant in Germany caught a goldfish and asked her for three wishes.
1. According to the documents I want to become a "refugee"! - And I received a refugee certificate, and with it all social benefits and benefits.
2. I don’t want to live with all the refugees, but I WANT to get an excellent separate new apartment for free! “And he got an excellent separate new apartment for free.”
3. I want to become a German! - And he became a German. And right away, everything disappeared from him - and they also will not take him to work anywhere.

[Petrovich1952]

Again, Berlin will have to take ...

No, I don’t have to. What has been will never be.
Since it was correctly noticed, the Germans are not the same, and not the Germans in the majority. And we, alas, are not the same. When war comes to our house WE BECOME ONE and become what we should be.

[Tatyana]

Glot (1)

Ajent Cho (7)
Again, Berlin will have to take ...

No, I don’t have to. What has been will never be.
Since it was correctly noticed, the Germans are not the same, and not the Germans in the majority. And we, alas, are not the same.

I add to this that both Arabs and Africans are not the same.
In general, it all depends on how you look at historical events in general.
First, for example, K. Marx said that the history of mankind is developing in a spiral.
And secondly, the methods of propaganda themselves have been preserved, are being preserved and continue to improve, which implies a certain repetition in the behavior of the masses.
It should be noted that, for example, A. Hitler studied the methods of demagogic propaganda from the British already during the First World War and gave them his own interpretation, which has not yet become outdated.
For example, in the comments to Mine Kampf you can also read

Hitler's discourse on propaganda is of uttermost interest. In the most cynical form, they reveal the unprincipled nature of national-socialist demagogy. At the same time, they give a clear idea of ​​the methods by which fascism gathered under its banner the masses ... and led them to conquer the street.

As an example - for the concept of the essence of the issue - we can cite the following statements by Hitler from Mine Kampf

1. ... propaganda is the same weapon of struggle, and in the hands of a connoisseur of this matter - the most terrible of guns
2. "The task of propaganda ... is not to scrupulously weigh the positions of all parties in the war, but to prove their own EXCLUSIVE rightness."
3. "Any propaganda should be accessible to the masses; its level should be based on the measure of its understanding, characteristic of its most backward individuals from among those whom it wants to influence."
4. "The susceptibility of the masses is very limited, the circle of its understanding is narrow, but the FORGIVENESS is very GREAT."
5. "The soul of the people is distinguished in many respects by feminine features. The arguments of sober reason have less effect on it than the arguments of feelings."

Who will say that these concepts are outdated and will not be in demand in society for certain purposes by certain forces and societies? I think that no one.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Tatiana

First, for example, K. Marx said that the history of mankind is developing in a spiral.

I think scientists lied
A puncture in them in theory, a cut:
Development is not spiraling
And at random, peddling, across the board.

V. Vysotsky, 1976

[Lelek]

Quote: Glot

What has been will never be.

The claim is controversial. Remember Müller's words in "17 Moments": "As soon as in some corner of the world, someone will say HAYL ...." So, they say it in almost all countries of the world. Russia is no exception - our "Nazi thugs" are no better than German, Polish, Latvian, Arab or Ukrainian. You cannot fight this virus alone - only in bulk, with the whole world.

[atalef]

Quote: Lelek

The claim is controversial. Remember Müller's words in "17 Moments": "As soon as in some corner of the world, someone will say HAYL ...." So, they say it in almost all countries of the world. Russia is no exception - our "Nazi thugs" are no better than German, Polish, Latvian, Arab or Ukrainian. You cannot fight this virus alone - only in bulk, with the whole world.

For example, Hezbollah

[atalef]

Or else they

[matross]

Well, who about what, and the Israelis about Hezbollah)
Hezbollah is our bitch children) and fighters against Zionism)) and this is not a Nazi salutation, but a freeze frame of a pioneer salute in dynamics)))

[Alexander Romanov]

Mein Kampf. True, the circulation is limited, only 4000 copies.
Only 4000 copies, as I understand it, each official has a new handbook.

[Tatyana]

The decision of the Munich Institute of Contemporary History of Germany to print Mine Kampf in 4 thousand copies - for the first time (!) Since the end of World War II - caused a wide public outcry.
The fact is that the Union of Teachers of Germany plans to teach certain passages of the political manifesto of Adolf Hitler “Mein Kampf” to schoolchildren 16 years and older, in order to allegedly “inculcate young people from political extremism” with a critical analysis and increase resistance to right-wing populism in Germany.
Even MP Ernst Dieter Rossmann of the Social Democratic Party of Germany spoke out in support of this idea.
However, the plans of the teachers' associations are already worried, for example, in the Jewish community of Germany.
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1585121/?fb#ixzz3uwOucjuA

[222222]

On December 21, 1879, Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich was born.
...
December 21, 1896 Konstantin Konstantinovich Rokossovsky was born

[apro]

Let us separate fascism and national socialism, the German Nazis are racists and today watching how Germany is being crushed by crowds of Germans from Germans, the reaction is quite expected, today Germany is occupied by Amers and all actions are possible only with their consent. The creation of independent Germany lies in the plane of struggle against SGA.

[iliitchitch]

The most natural fascism rushing from across the ocean. Decomposing the speeches of the last 3 presidents into quotes - that’s New MineCampf. And they have no shortage of Goebbels.

[gas-5903]

There will be those who like the book and they will be guided by it as an instruction for action

[EvgNik]

Quote: gas-5903

there will be those who like the book

They are now. And with our fascists it is in use. It is not so difficult to find this rubbish on the Internet, and in Russian.

[Tatyana]

gas-5903
There will be those who like the book and they will be guided by it as an instruction for action

The release of Mein Kampf by A. Hitler in modern Germany - with the humiliated state of the Germans against the background of an overly tolerant foreign migration policy A. Merkel regarding the "refugees" from BV and Africa - is called for a REALLY revanchist way of REDIRECTING the modern national anger of insulted and humiliated Germans from pro-American politics Merkel in Germany and with the Americans themselves and NATO specifically to Russia. That's all! Therefore, the United States, I think, not only allowed, but, rather, authorized the German leadership to allow the release of the book Mein Kampf.
The book "Mine Kampf" German fascists will be guided precisely as instructions for action - and in their conquest movement to the East. For example,

Quote from Mine Kampf
We National Socialists consciously put an end to the entire German foreign policy of the pre-war era. We want to return to the point at which our old development of 600 was interrupted years ago. We want to stop the eternal German aspiration to the south and west of Europe and definitely point your finger towards the territories located in the east. We finally break with the colonial and commercial policies of the pre-war period and consciously turn to the policy of conquering new lands in Europe.
When we talk about conquering new lands in Europe, we, of course, can bear in mind first of all only Russia and those border countries that are subordinate to it.

Are these ideas of A. Hitler not consistent with American fascism and with the globalist goals of the United States? Agrees. For this reason, the release of Mine Kampf in modern Gemania will take place.

[Aleksandr72]

Once, at the end of the collapse of the Soviet Union, Hitler's little book "Mein Kampf" began to be printed in our country, though not entirely, but chapters in magazines (in my opinion, in the Military Historical Journal - I don't remember exactly). Out of interest, I then read what was available. And I was surprised at what I read - it's really a pamphlet, odious and primitive, written in the same wretched and primitive syllable (perhaps these are the features of the "translation" from German into the language of native aspens, I don't know). Any normal person who knows at least a little to think will never lead to such ideas. The trouble is that such people are becoming less and less - most ordinary people are ready to swallow any chewing gum that is brought to them from the TV screens. A typical example for Germany - quite recently a film was shot there (as it is considered a comedy - although comedy films and the Germans are already a tragedy and farce) about A. Hitler. Moreover, the actor looks like the original only with his hair and mustache. But when the film crew together with the main character of the film drove through Germany, in most cases they were greeted very warmly, especially by young people - everyone wanted to take a picture with Hitler the actor, get his autograph, sing a song with him, etc. etc. There were frequent occasions when he was greeted with a sieg heil and throwing up his hands in Nazi greetings (in fact, peeped from the ancient Romans). And such an attitude towards an odious leader is already an alarming symptom. As one old acquaintance of mine, who has been living in Germany for a long time, remarked, it is very difficult for the Germans to live without the Fuehrer.
Especially now, when "refugees" from the Middle East and Africa, joining in ecstasy with those of their fellow tribesmen and brothers in faith who have long been living in the Fatherland, begin to "pump up rights" and dictate their conditions and requirements to the indigenous people, not all Germans like it. And in such muddy water, another revival of the ideas of revanchism is quite possible. Let it not be pure Nazism, but we all clearly remember how the German revenge ended some 70 years ago. As if it were not necessary to take Berlin by storm again.
I have the honor.

[domokl]

I disagree on not entirely. In Moscow it was possible to buy not only the German version but also the Russian in the original design on the book ruins in the center.

[Amurets]

Quote: domokl

I disagree on not entirely. In Moscow it was possible to buy not only the German version but also the Russian in the original design on the book ruins in the center.

All over the country, and not only Hitler, but also other bonuses of the Third Reich. In 1993, I had to go on a business trip to the eastern section of BAM. So almost at every major and middle station, Trassib and BAM traded this pulp fiction on apron book ruins.

[Aleksandr72]

I fully admit that this trashy little book was printed and freely distributed throughout the country. The opuses of Rezun-Suvorov and his apologists were printed in huge editions. But in any case, I would not pay for "Mein Kampf" just in order to read it once and throw it away (and most likely to burn it - this squalor does not deserve any other fate, I will not say anything about using it as intended). It was enough for me to read several chapters in the magazine version. And the fabulous memoirs of the beaten generals, and even more so the Nazi bosses of the Third Reich, I do not want to read in principle. I was quite satisfied with reading Halder's diary, Mellenthin's books, and other Western military historians (including German ones).
I respect the Germans as a nation, but for some reason the Germans are always guided by ideas that are primitive and dangerous for all mankind, such as national socialism, ideas of racial superiority, etc.
The revival of the ideas of revanchism and national socialism in Germany, chauvinism and right-wing radicalism in France poses a threat to the fragile peace in Europe. And in creating this situation, the European politicians themselves are to blame for their ill-considered, and sometimes openly stupid steps towards Islamic radicalism, attempts to introduce democracy along the transatlantic model where this very "democracy" is not needed (I mean "Arab spring "and Africa). As a result, now these very politicians in Western (and not only) Europe do not know what to do with the "refugees" and with their ever-increasing demands and demands. The policy of unbridled tolerance and its consequences pushes people into the arms of the right-wing forces. Even those Europeans who previously would not have shaken hands with the right. They simply have no other choice if they want to keep their home.
I have the honor.

[CONTROL]

Quote: Amurets

In 1993, I had to go on a business trip to the eastern section of BAM. So at almost every large and medium station, Trassib and BAM traded this reading matter on apron book ruins.

In those years, not only there (Siberia) and not only this - they traded ... Then AK and TT or "Makar" traded: - buy, if you are rich! ...

[Glot]

Once, at the end of the collapse of the Union, Hitler's little book "Mein Kampf" began to be printed in our country, though not entirely, but chapters in magazines.

We published and sold entirely in bookstores. That is what was called, A. Hitler, "My Struggle".
I then looked through some chapters in passing. In general, nothing of the sort.

[Ermak]

Glot
I then looked through some chapters in passing. In general, nothing of the sort.

probably this book is for the Germans

[Ermak]

Where did the checkmark go in settings - was born in the USSR

[CONTROL]

Quote: Ermak

Where did the checkmark go in settings - was born in the USSR

... he died there too!
... and you are not the only one! ... for many, these settings "moved out" ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: Glot

. In general, nothing of the sort.

Yes, if it were not for the book, but to give separate pages to read, so that the reader does not know where and whose it is, many would agree with some statements. I repeat - with some! I did such an experiment when later I told where it came from, the reaction was interesting, because there is a lot in common, let’s say so ... with other fighters

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Out of interest, I then read what was available. And I was surprised at what I read - it's really a pamphlet, odious and primitive, written in the same wretched and primitive syllable (perhaps these are the features of the "translation" from German into the language of native aspens, I don't know). Any normal, able to think a little a person will never be guided by such ideas.

Sasha , red keywords, but this opus, alas, is not intended for these people, it is designed for a dumb herd ... Example-404, for: Divide et impera ...

[CONTROL]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Out of interest, I then read what was available. And I was surprised at what I read - it's really a pamphlet, odious and primitive, written in the same wretched and primitive syllable (perhaps these are the features of the "translation" from German into the language of native aspens, I don't know). Any normal, able to think a little a person will never be guided by such ideas.

Sasha , red keywords, but this opus, alas, is not intended for these people, it is designed for a dumb herd ... Example-404, for: Divide et impera ...

No, not the "stupid herd"! And what Bismarck admired: the "middle-educated" in German ...
A young man who has diligently (to the extent of mediocre abilities) graduated from a very high school ... with honor, honestly! - entered the university ...
This is called in medical psychiatry "youthful philosophical intoxication": admiration for one's own intelligence and education, from which the superiority of the "true Aryan" over ... yes, over everyone flows smoothly! And the "leader" confirms this with gusto ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: CONTROL

This is called in medical psychiatry "youthful philosophical intoxication": admiration for one's own intelligence and education, from which the superiority of the "true Aryan" over ... yes, over everyone flows smoothly!

there is a rational grain in your words, I agree that some 404e people, young, and very educated, nevertheless, create the impression of insane, perhaps there is a place to be, not just "intoxication". but the zombie of the masses ..

[CONTROL]

Quote: Alexander72

this is really a pamphlet, odious and primitive, written in the same wretched and primitive syllable

... Well, the man did not have literary talent! Not bad, they say, was an artist? ...
Affects the lack of leaders in politics in the West! Where are at least partially de Gaulle similar, the cynical bastards of Churchill, the overwhelmingly charismatic Gandhi? ... or even a crook and a womanizer, but ... Berlusconi! ... or even Helmut Call ...

[satris]

Do you prefer that the "refugees" wipe Europe off the face of the earth, and all Europeans move to Russia? A letter from a German was already published somewhere, who asked to make the German People's Republic on the basis of the Saratov region. Also an option. But ... how about translating "Mein Kampf" into Arabic or Turkish? Otherwise, of course, we will have to take Berlin again, but on a par with the Germans. It’s better to let the Germans deal with the "refugees" now - it will somehow be easier. And not up to "Drang nach Osten" they will then be.

[domokl]

Quote: satris

to make the German People's Republic on the basis of the Saratov region.

We have a German national autonomous region ... So what? The Germans there are exactly the same as the rest of the nationalities. But with its own culture and customs. Not very bad ...
And from Germany there is a fairly decent number of visitors.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

In Germany, Nazism is a crime! And the Nazis simply cannot appear. Because the Germans no longer want a repeat of 1945.

this is all from the "evil", I say as a doctor, the basis: while serving in the GDR, (for the young, there was such a country) we relocated to the "jump" airfield, as part of the exercises, and so, in one town, of which we came across along the route of the column a lot, on the sidelines stood a gallant, one-legged old man, in black, SS uniform, he was about 90 years old (in appearance), and every car passing by (and these were TZA-maz-500, and ZSZh-gaz-66, and UMP-350-131, and APA-5D and other aerodrome equipment) the old man strove to hit with his crutch, jabbing with curses everywhere ... I went to the RSP-10 with a trailer, fearing that the old man would fall under the wheels - "beep", and grandfather from surprise, just as unexpectedly - "ziganul"! me and the elder, laughing km 3 ... but funny is not enough, if you think about it, after all, nobody didn’t take Grandfather out of the way and punished, although NNP (German police) was present ...

[heal]

What are the consequences of the appearance of this book, for example, in the Baltic states?

And what is there in the Baltic states? Mein Kampf has nothing to do with the Baltic states, it describes how Hitler's political views were formed, how he came to anti-Marxism, anti-Semitism, how he came to the idea of ​​national socialism for Germany. In other countries, he, in general, did not care. And somehow applying this work to other countries will be problematic because all this was for the specific conditions of Germany at that time.

A detailed, even with critical remarks, study of such books will give new supporters of fascism a real, already tested, way to seize power.

And what is the path to seizing power? Everything, in general, is standard and legal. Here and Mein Kampf is not needed.

And the second "but". What is Germany itself today? This is not the German state that was under Hitler. This is no longer a German state. Germany today is a country outside a single nation. A country where Germans are no longer an overwhelming majority.

It was precisely the poem that the demand for this work arose, because the Germans more and more want Germany to be for the Germans, and not for any migrants.

And "Mein Kampf" will be available from January XNUMX at any bookstore. Or read it in the library.

And now it can be downloaded easily from the Internet.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: heal

A detailed, even with critical remarks, study of such books will give new supporters of fascism a real, already tested, way to seize power.
And what is the path to seizing power? Everything, in general, is standard and legal. Here and Mein Kampf is not needed.

I also did not quite understand - no recipes for "seizing power" "M.K." does not contain. This is not a manifesto or a "Nazi cookbook".

[heal]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

I also did not quite understand - no recipes for "seizing power" "M.K." does not contain. This is not a manifesto or a "Nazi cookbook".

Well, apparently, those who have never read about the "recipes for seizing power" allegedly written there.

[CONTROL]

[quote = heal] [quote] And what is the path to seizing power? Everything, in general, is standard and legal. Here and Mein Kampf is not needed. [/ Quote]
... Will Lenin's "April Theses" work?
Briefly, concisely, and - to the point! Not like "my fight" ...
True, there is no need to talk about "legality" ...

[heal]

Quote: CONTROL

.. Will Lenin's "April Theses" work?
Briefly, concisely, and - to the point! Not like "my fight" ...

Exactly. And in Mein Kampf, Hitler spoke of the necessity of the legality of the movement and the rise to power.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: heal

And in Mein Kampf, Hitler spoke of the necessity of the legality of the movement and the rise to power.

yes, nevertheless, the beer putsch was a prelude to "legality")
However, the failure of the October communist putsch also somewhat cooled the fervor of the left (and in Moscow too). Thalheimer, Bandler and other "right deviators" have already kept quiet about the revolution. The struggle for power has moved on to the "legitimate" plane. How it ended is known. Outside the Mein Kampf framework, there were admissions about the dirty political methods that the Nazis used with might and main (the same case of Oskar v. Hindenburg)

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: CONTROL

True, there is no need to talk about "legality" ...

yes, if you also recall the decision of the Politburo of the Central Committee of August 22, 1923, which unequivocally indicated the "revolutionary situation" in Germany and "time to take power." In October, the Central Committee of the Central Committee developed a plan for the mobilization of the Red Army in case of assistance to the German comrades (20 divisions). Even the date was set - November 9th.

Quote: CONTROL

Not like "my fight" ...

If Schikl is to be accused of writing a manual on "seizing power," then how can one assess the activities of Ruth Fisher, Maslov and other left-wing radicals?

[parusnik]

And "Mein Kampf" will be available from January XNUMX at any bookstore. Or read it in the library...And this is the result of a policy of double standards .. "Moderate terrorists-oppositionists" in Syria are "legal", but the militia in the Donbass against the Nazi regime is not legal ..

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: parusnik

And "Mein Kampf" will be available from January XNUMX at any bookstore.

stupid thing. Already a bibliographic rarity. At a cost of 56 euros, which is a lot for printing even in Germany. I will buy even with an overpayment.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

I will buy even with an overpayment.

buy Nietzsche at the same time, and think of yourself as a "superman" ...

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

at the same time buy Nietzsche

Do you have anything against Nietzsche? Maybe exclude Wagner from the playlists? After all, Shikl's mastermind.

[CONTROL]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

at the same time buy Nietzsche

Do you have anything against Nietzsche? Maybe exclude Wagner from the playlists? After all, Shikl's mastermind.

... and the inspirers of Mussolini, they say, were the frescoes of Michelagelo and da Vinci ...
Adolf Aloizovich is generally a very ambiguous historical figure ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

[quote] [quote = CONTROL] Adolf Aloizovich is generally a very ambiguous historical figure ...
[/ quote] how respectful ...

[satris]

Put 90 million of the population on the ears - and you will also become an "controversial historical figure." The point is the scale, not the sign - as they say: "this energy, but into a peaceful channel."

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: satris

Put 90 million of the population on the ears - and you will also become a "controversial historical figure"

ambiguity - in manipulation already put on ears. Germany took this pose (I'm talking about ears) far from the efforts of Hitler.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

at the same time buy Nietzsche

Do you have anything against Nietzsche? Maybe exclude Wagner from the playlists? After all, Shikl's mastermind.

I like the "flight of the Valkyries", but there is no nationalistic principle in it, don't you think?

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

I like the "flight of the Valkyries", but there is no nationalistic principle in it, don't you think?

funny. Actually, "Ring of the Nibelungen" is quite a hymn to the Teutonic spirit. As for the melody from the third act of "Valkyries" that you mentioned, it accompanied the plots of "Die deutsche Wochenschau" about the combat work of the Luftwaffe.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

As for the melody from the third act of "Valkyries" that you mentioned, it accompanied the plots of "Die deutsche Wochenschau" about the combat work of the Luftwaffe.

voice acting can be inserted any, on the perverted taste of the director.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

voice acting can be inserted any, on the perverted taste of the director.

I agree, although, for example, Coppola can’t be blamed for bad taste)

[CONTROL]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

buy Nietzsche at the same time, and think of yourself as a "superman" ...

I read Nietzsche with pleasure! Nothing about the "superman" of German nationality; but - hope for the elevation of the spirit of man "in general", for its development through the elevation of the spirit into a "superman"!
... To turn Nietzsche into the bugbear of Nazism is already the clumsy work of Soviet ideologists from philosophy ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: CONTROL

... To turn Nietzsche into the bugbear of Nazism is already the clumsy work of Soviet ideologists from philosophy ...

come on! therefore adik, with such ecstasy read Nietzsche?

[Mik13]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Quote: CONTROL

... To turn Nietzsche into the bugbear of Nazism is already the clumsy work of Soviet ideologists from philosophy ...

come on! therefore adik, with such ecstasy read Nietzsche?

He also preferred blondes.

Let’s now, as part of the fight against Nazism, prohibit bleaching hair, and repainting all blondes in any other colors - by choice ....

Mizulina should give an idea.

[heal]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

buy Nietzsche at the same time, and think of yourself as a "superman" ...

And what's so anti-anti-human?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: heal

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

buy Nietzsche at the same time, and think of yourself as a "superman" ...

And what's so anti-anti-human?

your brain and that of adolf are arranged differently, and in this, your happiness ...

[Aleksandr72]

And how do you like this:
The ideological forerunners of National Socialism and the Nazi racial theory:

Herder Fichte (1762-1814) and other German romantics believed that each nation has its own specific genius (spirit), captured in the deep past, which must express itself in a national spirit (Volksgeist). The national spirit, according to their philosophy, is a superpower and has its own spiritual universe, whose external form manifested itself in national culture. Such irrational teachings have become correlated with the doctrine of origin. In addition to the Frenchman Joseph de Gobino, the Englishman Houston Stuart Chamberlain (1855-1927) made a great contribution to this philosophy. In his main, scandalous book, Fundamentals of the 1899th Century (Die Grundlagen des neunzehnten Jahrhunderts), published in 1813, he develops two main themes: Aryans, as creators and bearers of civilization, and Jews, as negative racial force, destructive and a degenerate factor in history. A certain influence in the spread of this kind of racism was exerted by the German composer Richard Wagner (1883-XNUMX), who believed that the heroic Germanic spirit was brought along with Nordic blood (an unwritten ban was imposed on Israel to perform his music). Subsequently, Hitler's youthful passion for music by Wagner (the Ring of the Nibelung) in mature years grew into a veneration of his ideas.

So in the creation of racial theory and the theory of the superman practically all enlightened Europe was noted, one way or another.
Subsequently, the ideologists of Nazism, such as Rosenberg, Fisher, Gunter developed all this spiritual heritage into the ideology of racial superiority of the Germans over other peoples, the theory of the superman (Ubermensch), appropriating the name of the Aryans to himself and all racially pure Germans. The works of the philosopher Nietzsche, whom A. Hitler greatly honored, also pulled up there (in support of his racial nonsense).
I have the honor.

[satris]

Have you read Nietzsche? I read. And no one imagines himself. Probably because not blond ... Nietzsche is for puberty. In other words, you can define the content of his texts as "Quit smoking - get on your skis!" Do not attribute to him what he did not have. This is the same as Marx and "Russian Marxism" - "I have not read, but I know."

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: satris

I - read ... Nietzsche - this is for puberty.

Apparently, they read a little. However, as Nietzsche Brandes himself wrote: “Many words have been saturated with completely different salts and have a completely different taste for my language than for my readers.”
I don't think his "Wille zur Macht" was written for a "young man who thinks about life". And the "periods of European nihilism" quite themselves fall on our new and contemporary history.

[populist]

For 8 years, the ideas embodied in the book helped the author become the ruler of not only the state, but also the souls of most Germans. In just 8 years!

The author does not know the history of Germany. German fascism did not grow out of nothing in 8 years. This phenomenon was deeply rooted in German society.
It is difficult to say which method of combating the ideas of the two is better - complete silence and prohibition, or negative disclosure. We in the USSR did not have anti-religious work in the last 30 years to 1991. As a result, now almost everyone believed in stupidity.

[apro]

Yuri German national socialism grew out of the Versailles treaty when Germany was robbed and humiliated, how the Germans lived under the terms of this treaty, read Remarque convincingly written. I think that the Germans' fanatical resistance at the end of the war is echoes of those times. German society is no worse and no better others, but the conditions in which the Germans were placed at that time forced them to resist.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: apro

Yuri, German National Socialism grew out of the Versailles Treaty when Germany was robbed and humiliated, how the Germans lived under the terms of this treaty; read Remarque convincingly written.

Oleg, are you definitely Russian ...?

[apro]

Andrei Yurievich, I am Soviet, and what did it draw you to racial issues?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: apro

Andrei Yurievich, I am Soviet, and what did it draw you to racial issues?

yes. Your spelling .... I didn’t put you cons, mind you ...

[apro]

[right] [/ right] Sorry, I'm writing from the tablet and this auto-drive is sick of it, and it’s not disconnected. And I'm not vengeful.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: apro

[right] [/ right] Sorry, I'm writing from the tablet and this auto-drive is sick of it, and it’s not disconnected. And I'm not vengeful.

understood, accepted, sorry ...

[CONTROL]

Quote: apro

Yuri German National Socialism grew out of the Versailles Treaty,

National Socialism was - in many countries - BEFORE Germany, BEFORE Italy! "Nazis" of different types and forms were in many countries: the first, it seems, were Caucasians - Dashnaks in Armenia, the same in Georgia, Black Hundreds in Russia (with our local "flavor", but of course!) Yes - everywhere! They started with noble and lofty goals and ideals - the liberation of the Turkish Armenians from the Ottomans ... the liberation of the Georgians from the tsarist oppression ... and te te! Remaining at the same time those that later in Italy were called "fascists" ...
... like Savinkov - who is the "pale horse" - flirted with them ...

[NyeMoNik70]

You at least ask who they are, these Black Hundreds! Argument on the example of one city of the empire. Objectives, structure, idea, social, ethnic and religious section of the organization.

[CONTROL]

Quote: NyeMoNik70

You at least ask who they are, these Black Hundreds! Argument on the example of one city of the empire. Objectives, structure, idea, social, ethnic and religious section of the organization.

Interested in!
And whatever one may say and do not "be interested" - the ideology was originally National Socialist, with "pure Russian" gadgets and tricks! No matter how you paint a demon, but everything is one - Satan's offspring! ...
... And who is at the head of "great ... Russia"? Tsar or Fuhrer - that is an insignificant nuance! But chauvinism and anti-Semitism - the defining - not a nuance - factor!
PS One must think that the Black Hundred appeared on the site - come from the Don Cossacks? oooh very revealing ...

[NyeMoNik70]

Please be kind enough, preferably on the work of the local historian, or a screen of the pages of this work, on which you made such masterful conclusions.
Otherwise, you are suspected of distorting the truth and "... that the Zionist spyen."
Not a Cossack, not from the Don, the fourth city of the Empire.
Arguments in the studio!

[Glukashin]

What is this? The first Moscow, the second Peter. Or vice versa, depending on where you count)))) the third is Lower, and the fourth?

[CONTROL]

Quote: Glukashin

What is this? The first Moscow, the second Peter. Or vice versa, depending on where you count)))) the third is Lower, and the fourth?

... aunts!

[sogdianec]

You should not equal the Black Hundreds with the nationalists. Of course, they are not sugar, but in vain they should not be spoken about.

[populist]

apro (3)
Yuri German National Socialism grew out of the Versailles Treaty

Oleg, of course, the Treaty of Versailles played a role in the emergence of German fascism, but I mean
the roots of the phenomenon. While I was at work, they answered for me on this topic. For example, "Today, 10:32 alexander72 The ideological forerunners of National Socialism and the racial theory of the Nazis:" Excellent comment! There are others ...

read remark

Remarque read a whole series of books. For some, films have been delivered. I remember something about a race car driver. So, about the situation in the know.

German society is no worse and no better than others

You are deeply mistaken when comparing German society of the 20s and 30s with Russian (Soviet), American, Chinese, Indian, etc. There is a huge difference between them.
And one more note about societies. There are societies worse, there are better societies, and there are simply disgusting and disgusting, like the modern Ukrainian "society."

[domokl]

Distort. Excuse me. The author talks about the first edition of this opus. And it really was in the 1925 year ... So the author has a full story.
And about deep roots .. I would say so about any political trend. And any spectrum. If you dig, then these very roots can be found sooooo deep in history. And then, there is also our beautiful "if".
And about anti-religion ... And what kind of work are you talking about? In the USSR, the majority called themselves atheists on the principle that there is no God!. Now these same people are believers and according to the same principle, there is God! That's all.
What we see on this issue on both sides is nothing more than profanity. Like a conversation on Easter. Units hold the post, but everyone chats. Even representatives of other religions. The tradition is kind of like.

[populist]

domokl
Distort. Already sorry

I will only recall the words of the author of the note.

Author Alexander Staver
The first edition of this book was in 1925. That is, long before Hitler came to power in Germany. In 8 years, the ideas embodied in the book helped the author to become the ruler of not only the state, but also the souls of the majority of Germans. Total for 8 years!

This is the author thinks so.

... domokl
I would say so about any political current. And any spectrum.

Truth is concrete. There are introduced "currents." For example, Islam in Albania, Bosnia. They are even imposed currents. There are other examples as well.

In the USSR, most called themselves atheists on the principle that there is no God!. Now these same people are believers and according to the same principle, there is God! That's all.

It is this "all" that is crucial. In other words, people's self-awareness is crucial.
On this "base" specialists in MS (manipulation of consciousness) string all kinds of harmful attitudes.
If the USSR had anti-religious education in schools, then a distracting maneuver for religion could very well have failed.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

A couple of years of such a toothless policy — and in Germany again, ridiculous burghers will go in rows, driven to despair by the abundance of migrants — for the Germans also wait a long time, but act quickly.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus

A couple of years of such a toothless policy — and in Germany again, ridiculous burghers will go in rows, driven to despair by the abundance of migrants — for the Germans also wait a long time, but act quickly.

I agree ... and you know who will be in charge? ... such as: Sarah Vagenknekht. Do not use this opportunity, in the wake of burgher anger, come on! we are perceived by her now, almost like Telman, how the people are mistaken ... politics is dirty, all sorts of means are good, if the same Sarah is fortified in the Chair, she will throw off the sheep’s skin. History has already shown Hitler, too, first lavished compliments of the USSR, then we all know.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

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not a single argument against ... but the cons ... we fade forum users, sorry ...

[heal]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

History has already shown Hitler likewise first lavished compliments of the USSR

Well, actually in Mein Kampf he opposed Marxism. And in the USSR, this book of his was read by both Stalin and Molotov. So they did not believe his compliments of KAG BE ... from the word at all.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: heal

. So his KAG BE compliments were not believed.

GPU you wanted to say? but nevertheless, they taught both tankmen and pilots, and believed in "friendship of peoples" apparently?

[saygon66]

- And here - nothing surprising ... In his articles, A.G. condemned the countries of the bourgeois "plutocracy" - Britain, in particular. Obviously, this was regarded as a friend request ...

[knn54]

“Where grayness triumphs (A.M and Co.), blacks always come to power.” (Brothers Strugatsky).

[Mik13]

So, in Germany, the German teachers' association plans to partially teach Adolf Hitler's political manifesto "Mein Kampf" for schoolchildren aged 16 and over, according to the website of the German newspaper "Handelsblatt".
So, no more and no less. To introduce the main book of German fascism into the curriculum for schoolchildren. True purpose, as I wrote above, is noble. To instill in youth hatred of what they are studying. To reveal, so to speak, an anti-people and aggressive entity.

In Israel, as far as I remember, they teach at the Mein Kampf schools. And they consider it necessary. Although, it would be nice to ask the guests.

In theory, it looks quite. The clever anti-fascist teacher tells the students point by point that fascism is bad. And everyone is imbued with faith in this is the worst. But in reality? Will such a "vaccination" work in modern Europe?

But in reality, a student can easily encounter Nazi propaganda outside the school - and will not know where he is being campaigned.

But the main thing is not the number of books. And the comments are more like a cover from curious journalists. The main thing is that now this book will be freely available. Not only in specialized libraries, but also for sale.

When I had a desire to familiarize myself with the text, an Internet search took even less time than searching for a book protected by copyright. I don’t think that in Germany the Internet is fundamentally different, the TOP is prohibited, and Ecuador no longer hosts sites on its servers.
So the lack of access is very conditional.

What are the consequences of the appearance of this book, for example, in the Baltic States? After all, there will be no trained teachers. There will be ordinary teachers who themselves are largely infected with the ideas of Nazism. And so it can be said about the majority of small European countries.

Oh yes, it is in the Baltic States that everything will now become very, very bad. It is the book that will affect this. What else can they do to rehabilitate Nazism, I wonder what they haven't done yet?

Detailed, even with critical remarks, the study of such books will give the new supporters of fascism a real, already proven, way to seize power. And supporters of fascism can be not only Germans, but also German citizens of other nationalities.

That's right, it’s better if the ultra-right are engaged in Nazi propaganda. They will precisely tell everything exactly so as to prevent the rehabilitation of Nazism. They are for this and exist.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Mik13

In Israel, as far as I remember, they teach in Mein Kampf schools.

I heard that it was published in Hebrew (though with banknotes). But, so that in schools GI was included in the program ... Do not confuse anything?

[Mik13]

Quote: Zeppelin ml.

Quote: Mik13

In Israel, as far as I remember, they teach in Mein Kampf schools.

I heard that it was published in Hebrew (though with banknotes). But, so that in schools GI was included in the program ... Do not confuse anything?

No, I don’t confuse. But we can clarify.
We must call the Snow Maiden loudly .... that is, Atalef. He must know.

[atalef]

Quote: Mik13

In Israel, as far as I remember, they teach at the Mein Kampf schools. And they consider it necessary. Although, it would be nice to ask the guests.

Well, you can’t remember, for two reasons
1.You did not study in Israel
2. In Israel, the Kampf schools are not taught in the schools of Mine (exclusively no more than in the course of modern history (last classes) with excerpts and quotes.
There are originals in any university library Mine Kampf - it would be foolish for people studying the history and catastrophe of European Jewry not to have access to the original publication

Quote: Mik13

But in reality, a student can easily encounter Nazi propaganda outside the school - and will not know where he is being campaigned

There is so much of this agitation on the Internet that anyone comes across it every day

Quote: Mik13

When I had a desire to familiarize myself with the text, an Internet search took even less time than searching for a book protected by copyright. I don’t think that in Germany the Internet is fundamentally different, the TOP is prohibited, and Ecuador no longer hosts sites on its servers. So, the lack of access is very arbitrary

I don’t quite understand the hysteria about 4 tons of Mine Kappf copies ordered by the university.
In general, how do you imagine studying a book as part of an academic history course or study without an academic publication.
Mine Kampf - you can easily find it on the Internet, but who can vouch for the authenticity and non-distortion of the text? Owner of the site Kalterbrunner?
University libraries require original literature and texts to study.
What is the problem ?

Storm in a glass of water.

[Mik13]

Quote: atalef

Well, you can’t remember, for two reasons
1.You did not study in Israel

Of course.
In some publications this information has met.

Quote: atalef

in Israel, Kampf schools are not taught in the schools of Mine (exclusively no more than in the course of modern history (last classes) with excerpts and quotes.

This is exactly what they propose to do in Germany. And the respected Author is not actively satisfied with this, as you see.

Quote: atalef

In general, how do you imagine studying a book as part of an academic history course or study without an academic publication.

Moreover - even in the VO statements of some comrades-in-arms, it’s quite Nazism itself. But the authors of the statements for some reason consider this patriotism.

And all because they know that fascism is bad, but they don’t know what it is ...

[atalef]

Quote: Mik13

In Israel, as far as I remember, they teach at the Mein Kampf schools. And they consider it necessary. Although, it would be nice to ask the guests.

Well, you can’t remember, for two reasons
1.You did not study in Israel
2. In Israel, the Kampf schools are not taught in the schools of Mine (exclusively no more than in the course of modern history (last classes) with excerpts and quotes.
There are originals in any university library Mine Kampf - it would be foolish for people studying the history and catastrophe of European Jewry not to have access to the original publication

Quote: Mik13

But in reality, a student can easily encounter Nazi propaganda outside the school - and will not know where he is being campaigned

There is so much of this agitation on the Internet that anyone comes across it every day

Quote: Mik13

When I had a desire to familiarize myself with the text, an Internet search took even less time than searching for a book protected by copyright. I don’t think that in Germany the Internet is fundamentally different, the TOP is prohibited, and Ecuador no longer hosts sites on its servers. So, the lack of access is very arbitrary

I don’t quite understand the hysteria about 4 tons of Mine Kappf copies ordered by the university.
In general, how do you imagine studying a book as part of an academic history course or study without an academic publication.
Mine Kampf - you can easily find it on the Internet, but who can vouch for the authenticity and non-distortion of the text? Owner of the site Kalterbrunner?
University libraries require original literature and texts to study.
What is the problem ?

Storm in a glass of water.

[albor.ru]

Quote: Ajent Cho

Again, Berlin will have to take ...

This would be funny if it were not sad.
My cousin lived for many years in the GDR, and now, naturally, in Germany.
So in the GDR all military toys (pistol tanks) were exclusively from the USSR, local ones were not produced.
And Parents vigilantly watched that the children did not point their weapons at PEOPLE! It was allowed to "shoot" only at "birds".
Now Hitler will posthumously bring up the East Germans and through Mine Kapf. Because I see no reason to laugh ....

[EvgNik]

Quote: albor.ru

So in the GDR all military toys (pistol tanks) were exclusively from the USSR, local ones were not produced.
And Parents vigilantly watched that the children did not point their weapons at PEOPLE! It was allowed to "shoot" only at "birds".

In principle, these are general rules regardless of nationality. When teaching children the rules for using weapons (even toy ones) - do not direct them at people. A reflex should develop. And they taught me that way, and so did my children.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: EvgNik

And they taught me that way, and so did my children.

oh brother Zheka dissemble !!! and in "war" we played against "Angri Bird" ???

[CONTROL]

Quote: albor.ru

This would be funny if it were not sad.
My cousin lived for many years in the GDR, and now, naturally, in Germany.
So in the GDR all military toys (pistol tanks) were exclusively from the USSR, local ones were not produced.
And Parents vigilantly watched that the children did not point their weapons at PEOPLE! It was allowed to "shoot" only at "birds".

Is it good?
Stanislav Lem - "Return from the Stars": How did this cynic and misanthrope come to the ideas of this book? That - the exclusion of the spirit of aggression from human civilization leads to ... (those who wish - to read ...).
Of the more "fresh", more modern - "Ruigat" Zltnikov.
And in general - so much has been said on this subject! There are few who talk about it - and try to figure it out !, how good intentions - the same National Socialism - turn into fascism ...
... And our state is not too willing to defend our interests and rights - Russians, as the "titular" nation!? ... burned? blowing on the water ... until it freezes!
So - to accuse someone of Nazism here - you have to be very careful! Just now, here is one of the site admins - he is the author of this article ?! - "having sinned" in another article, with a national -... bias! sometimes ... sometimes ...

[Zomanus]

Well, they are preparing Europe for a "cleansing war".
In five years, a massive purge of the nation from "aliens" and
"strangers". And it is most convenient to do this by designating those as "subhumans".
Not a Jew, Albanian, Turk, Syrian, but simply a "subhuman".
True, now, unlike the 30s, the current "Untermensch" will not stupidly go to concentration camps.

[heal]

Quote: Zomanus

True, now, unlike the 30s, the current "Untermensch" will not stupidly go to concentration camps.

So it seems.

[Aleksander]

Germany today is a country outside a single nation. Country where Germans are no longer the vast majority.

%
The clearly erroneous assertion of the Germans is still 80%.

[evil partisan]

The word is material. The word has overwhelming power, and in the twentieth century, many, to their horror, could see for themselves. Maybe all the same it is not necessary with the works of the ideologists of Nazism? At universities - please study. Write a doctorate on this topic. But at school ??

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

But at school ??

and cho, at school? Pushkin was canceled, and Shiklgruber-imputed?

[evil partisan]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Pushkin canceled

How can I cancel Pushkin ??
Especially for amateurs:
"The prince, running towards Louis, exclaims:
- Sire! Moliere is dead!
And Louis XIV, taking off his hat, will say:
- Moliere is immortal! "
Yet:

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Yet:

from the above video clip, my friend, I conclude that it is immortal - Mikhail Afanasevich ...

[Fox]

why did you make such a noise? I didn’t read it, but I condemn it? What is more cruel in this book than the same Bible or torus? Well, if you read quotes from the same Alexeyeva or Sobchak-horse ... why don’t they forbid that ?! and sayings of Gaidar or Chubais? And the books of Gorbachev?
like, they printed a book, and "fsё prapala!"
By the way, there are sensible thoughts ... however, as in many books.

[Old26]

Quote: Alexander72

Once, at the end of the collapse of the Soviet Union, Hitler's little book "Mein Kampf" began to be printed in our country, though not entirely, but chapters in magazines (in my opinion, in the Military Historical Journal - I don't remember exactly).

I don't know how in VIZH, but it was published as a separate book, somewhere in the mid-late 90s. We were at work in the library. When the library was woolen by the order of the new director, he wanted to "withdraw" it for personal use, but did not have time ... Someone had a fuss before.

Quote: Alexander72

Out of interest, I then read what was available. And I was surprised at what I read - it's really a pamphlet, odious and primitive, written in the same wretched and primitive syllable (perhaps these are the features of the "translation" from German into the language of native aspens, I don't know).

The book is certainly not a masterpiece, but about the primitive and wretched syllable - here rather, you are right, the fault of the translator. Rather, it can be said that the style is not, but heavy, is difficult to read ...

Quote: Alexander72

Any normal, able to think at least a little person will never be guided by such ideas. The trouble is that there are fewer such people - most ordinary people are ready to swallow any gum that they carry from the TV.

As they say, "water wears away a stone." Our neighbors, too, could not be called a stupid herd (he himself lived for almost 15 years in the Poltava region). And look what now. And it seems that the majority were normal people. Unfortunately, national, or rather nationalistic ideas take root very well on any soil. It is enough to purposefully "hammer" the same thing from day to day, simultaneously pointing to an external enemy and that's it ...

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: Glot

. In general, nothing of the sort.

Yes, if it were not for the book, but to give separate pages to read, so that the reader does not know where and whose it is, many would agree with some statements. I repeat - with some! I did such an experiment when later I told where it came from, the reaction was interesting, because there is a lot in common, let’s say so ... with other fighters

"And you Brute"....
I did similar actions with approximately the same initial and final reaction

And in the 90s we did have such publications. Some of them are outright rubbish, like the "works" of Suvorov-Rezun. But we must give him his due. For some time he was in control. There were also other publications. In particular, a three-volume collection of three books. "The Goebbels Diaries", "Hitler's Table Speeches" and "The History of the Gestapo". The people (and I am no exception) took this three-volume book precisely because of the last book

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Old26

"The Goebbels Diaries", "Hitler's Table Speeches" and "The History of the Gestapo".

These books were bought in Ukraine in the late 90s, in Russian, printed on good paper, with a strong binding. Question: why were they published?

[Tatyana]

Old26
a three-volume collection of three books. "The Goebbels Diaries", "Hitler's Table Speeches" and "The History of the Gestapo". The people (and I am no exception) took this three-volume book precisely because of the last book

The history of the Gestapo »Jacques Delarue is a magnificent thing, unique in its kind.
The author, a well-known French historian, a member of the Resistance movement, shows on the huge factual material the origin, formation and scale of the Gestapo. Police commissioner. The book gives accurate portrait sketches of all the leaders, reveals the essence of the ideology of fascism.
The book is unique in itself, since no one has conducted such a study of the formation of totalitarian regimes in general. The study is of practical importance. It makes sense to re-read. Especially in the current political situation in the world. Have fun, the translation is read very well.
I liked the other two named books much less.

Uncle Lee (1)
Question: why were they published?

In part, Gaidar's liberals fought against the so-called. "Russian fascism" represented by the RNU, the Russian Party, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the RKRP, the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and others, on the one hand. On the other hand, the publishers satisfied the interest of Russian nationalists in their theoretical attempts to solve the Russian question in the Russian Federation and in the former so-called. titular national SSRs and other administrative-territorial divisions in the matter of the technology of the successful arrival and seizure of power in Germany.

[Stas57]

Moreover, according to the BBC, in Germany they plan to print the original source for the first time since the post-war period. It is "Mein Kampf". True, the circulation is limited, only 4000 copies. And the book will provide 3500 with comments. It seems like Hitler’s thoughts are fenced from young minds.

child alarm

But the main thing is not the number of books. And comments are more like a cover from curious journalists. The main thing is that now this book will be freely available. Not only in specialized libraries, but also on sale. And there are a great many writers, commentators, and other "experts" who criticize critics. And I'm not sure that their comments will be perceived worse than those printed in the book.

and here is a minor alarmism

I am definitely against Mine Kampf’s ban.
all. all newly-minted fascists must be forced to read it, so that their gag reflex appears on it and on ideology.
more delusional, chaotic, boring books still look.

[Butchcassidy]

When the term "fascism" is used in relation to German National Socialism, one little duce cries in the world ...

But seriously - do not confuse the concept, especially in light of the fact that we are talking specifically about Germany. Mixing in a pile is good for vinaigrette only.

Some even manage to ascribe Francisco Franco to the supporters of the Nazis, despite the fact that he accepted fugitive Jews and flatly refused to fight on the side of Germany, which notoriously "trolled" Hitler. This same "Nazi" completely bloodlessly reorganized Spain, restoring the monarchy in the country.

[Stas57]

But what is the fundamental difference between German National Socialism and Italian Fascism?

or you have heard enough of a fan of Duce Solovyov. who likes to talk "about the cardinal differences"))))

[would]

But what is the fundamental difference between German National Socialism and Italian Fascism?

An unexpected question, this is worth knowing. The first thing to remember is the stark contradiction between Italian fascism and National Socialism: the concept of race and nation. Italian fascism never assumed "the purity of race" and even rejected the very concept. Race is a feeling, not a reality; 95% feeling- Mussolini. The concept of a nation has become empty. “Nation” is a political tool of democracy and liberalism-Hitler. Fascism relied specifically on the nation and did not carry that radical idea of ​​the destruction and subjugation of all "unclean races", essentially rejecting the very purity of the race.

This is if on top. The fundamental works of Italian fascism in the Russian Federation are prohibited (because they are extremist), so it is not possible to get acquainted with them legally. And there are a lot of things written.

[Stas57]

Quote: rait

Italian fascism never assumed the "purity of race" and even rejected this very concept. Italian fascism never assumed "purity of the race" and even rejected the very concept

miracles and only ... I know for example.

Royal Decree-Law No. 1728 “Measures to Protect the Italian Race”, ital. regio decreto legge "Provvedimenti per la difesa della razza italiana", "racial law"
The law forbade mixed marriages between Italians and non-Aryans, forbade Jews from teaching and supporting "Aryan" servants, and also defined membership in the "Jewish race."

I quote

Ritenuta la necessità urgente ed assoluta di provvedere;

Visto l'Art. 3, n. 2, della legge 31 Gennaio 1926-IV, n. 100, sulla facoltà del potere esecutivo di emanare norme giuridiche;

Sentito il Consiglio dei Ministri;

Article 1

Il matrimonio del cittadino italiano di razza ariana con persona appartenente ad altra razza è proibito. Il matrimonio celebrato in contrasto con tale divieto è nullo.
Sentito il Consiglio dei Ministri;


Article 1.
The marriage of a citizen of an Italian Aryan race with a person belonging to another race is prohibited. A wedding is celebrated in contrast with such a ban being invalid.

well surprise me with something else

You need to start with the fact that in Germany there was not fascism, but Nazism. If Italian fascism was meant, then these are different ideologies, but if fascism as a whole, then you can only laugh. So here it is not worth interfering with each other. But all kinds of journalists love this as well as mix nationalism, Nazism, fascism, ns-skinheads.

a bespontovoe attempt of the Italians to get out delivers

[would]

That's right ... only now you do not distinguish declared fascism as it was described in fundamental works and its final execution in reality, which was influenced by national socialism. If you look carefully, you can still find many discrepancies between writing and deed.

Well, of course, you did not touch on the topics of the absent concentration camps and mopping-up operations, because they did not exist as a central state policy. After this, the Nazis frolic in Italy after a series of events.

[Stas57]

Quote: rait

That's right ... only now you do not distinguish declared fascism as it was described in fundamental works and its final execution in reality, which was influenced by national socialism.

Yes, what's the difference, the fact remains, was the law on the protection of races. And they used it, or did not use it, or used it through their fingers, or for a bribe, this is particular.

in the end, we can clearly say that in Italy under Mussolini fascism .... well, and further on.


And what they have been in the pubs for 20 years before dreamed absolutely no one is floating.

If you look carefully, you can still have a lot
discrepancies between writing and deed

so what, and the Wehrmacht, the Jews served, and now, in Germany, the national social. did not have?


I think there is nothing wrong with the fact that the National Socialist. called fascists, there are no cardinal differences (such as between fascism and communism), the ideology is framed, it has many currents and directions, but it doesn’t change anything in principle, so you shouldn’t twitch, just take defeat for granted))

[would]

Yes, what's the difference - the fact remains - there was a law on the protection of races

And what they have been in the pubs for 20 years before dreamed absolutely no one is floating.

That is, in your opinion, if suddenly the Nazis would not start killing Jews and other "Untermines", and planting flowers, then Nazism would be good despite the declared ideas? Well, you never know what they dreamed about 20 years ago in pubs ... It turns out you can create a party of National Socialists, make it the main Nazi works, say that you just want to plant flowers and no one has the right to ban you. Convenient logic.

so what, and the Wehrmacht, the Jews served, and now, in Germany, the national social. did not have?

I recall how they served there and in what quantity?

but fundamentally it does not change anything, so do not twitch, just take defeat for granted

It is especially funny to read this when you once again kept silent in a rag about the absence of Nazi policies of Italian fascism of a centralized destruction of the lesser and the creation of a nation of slaves.

[Stas57]

It is especially funny to read this when you once again kept silent in a rag about the absence of Nazi politics in Italian fascism

everything, we sorted out the racial laws of Italy and you merged?
well, OK

[would]

In the absence of arguments, you can simply declare a sink. And now in order and reasonedly

Fascist Italy of that time is not equal to the Italo-Fascist ideology that we are discussing here and which is set out in the manifesto of the fascists and the doctrine of fascism (an extremist book banned on the territory of the Russian Federation). You absolutely clumsily translated the topic from the ideology of Italian fascism to the actions of the Italian regime. After that they did not answer by themselves provocative, but absolutely direct questions, for there is nothing to answer here either to admit that you are wrong, or to say nonsense, or to remain silent, which you chose.

Now we go to the racial laws. Oh, when were they adopted? Oh, they were also adopted after the Nazis came to power (ask how many Jews participated in the famous "March to Rome" and how Jews, in principle, lived at the beginning of Italian fascism) and were incomparably soft. They lacked a mechanism for the centralized destruction of the "Untermines", which was one of the pillars of Nazi politics; they lacked the policy of creating a nation of slaves and other inalienable attributes of National Socialism. Oh, and there was no politics of racial frequency either, and it was impossible to be sent to a concentration camp just because your great-grandmother was a Jew, and there were no concentration camps either. But you were silent three times in a rag on this point because there is nothing to answer.

I suspect that further on your part there will be a bypass of all uncomfortable questions, at least and very likely, in the spirit of the message to which I answer.

[Stas57]

to consider who is more fortunate, killed in pogroms or died in hard labor in Jado or killed in Auschwitz, or a comparison of how well a Jew lived in Germany at the beginning of the National Assembly and a Jew at the beginning of IF, of course you can give a lot of advice, but this is all blab, but I'm so and did not see why National Socialism should not be called fascism.

and while I do not see clear answers about the "non-existent" racial law, except for lengthy arguments, I will not discuss either the Libyan pogroms, not the fate of the Sardinian gypsies, or the Roman and Venetian ghettos.

but something I strongly doubt that I will see at least some serious and reasonable presentation. not answers, in styleOh, and when were they taken? Oh, they were taken after the Nazis came to power This type is not considered chtol, I'm in the house?

[would]

What was required to be proved, bypassing all uncomfortable questions and the corresponding style of communication in the spirit of "I see nothing, you have not proved anything yourself." Typically and that's why I predicted it. And I predict that just like always such "argumentation" in the form of denial and avoiding everything inconvenient, you will continue to admit that you are not going to admit that you are wrong. And now let's take it apart again

consider who is more fortunate, killed in pogroms or died in hard labor in Jado or killed in Auschwitz, or a comparison of how well a Jew lived in Germany at the beginning of the National Assembly and a Jew at the beginning of IF, of course you can give a lot of advice, but this is all empty blab

nor the Libyan pogroms, not the fate of the Sardinian gypsies, Neither the Roman and Venetian ghettos.

Departure into demagoguery and "water" in messages due to the fact that there are no arguments, but something must be said. And after all, as always, they blundered, did not pick up the right topics, but mixed some kind of vinaigrette even from different eras.

and so far I do not see clear answers about the "non-existent" racial law, except for lengthy arguments

Of course, the denial of the messages I wrote where I directly admitted the existence of such a law (to which you cling so strongly because there is nothing else) and an attempt to humiliate the position to call it "lengthy reasoning". In what place the doctrine of fascism and the manifesto of the fascists are "lengthy discourses" you certainly did not specify. But you still continue and will continue to mix the ideology of fascism and the real rule of Mussolini, for without this your position is no, there is nothing to talk about then.

however, I never saw why National Socialism should not be called fascism.

It goes without saying that the written and historical facts are denied. The fact that in the doctrine of fascism there was no special anti-Semitism, no racism, and even more so the very policy of "racial purity" does not bother you, it contradicts your mistake that you are trying to whiten so much and do not answer direct but very uncomfortable questions. Only now, neither my words nor yours will change anything: the doctrine of fascism as it was and will remain, and naturally, since it is recognized as extremist on the territory of the Russian Federation, no one will be able to read it and see how similar it is to National Socialism and whether there was something about than we say. The fascists' manifesto is generally publicly available and everyone can read what they wanted, what goals they set. Our messages will also remain in the topic and all these "did not happen, I did not prove anything, I do not see" will also be read by other users and they will make a clear and correct conclusion.

[sa-ag]

Quote: ButchCassidy

and flatly refused to fight on the side of Germany

Yes, and the "Blue Division" does not come out to fight on the side of Germany?

[heal]

Quote: ButchCassidy

When the term "fascism" is used in relation to German National Socialism, one little duce cries in the world ...

Actually, German National Socialism is one of the trends of fascism, and is its extreme degree of manifestation.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: ButchCassidy

Some manage to ascribe Francisco Franco as supporters of the Nazis,

oh how ... and who was he? until his death, who repressed and destroyed, even with the help of garotta, his opponents, and signed the death sentence to the Pope (Paul-6mu)? ha! yes you sir rave!

[aszzz888]

I hope there is a place left on the Reichstag where you can leave a signature!

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: aszzz888

I hope there is a place left on the Reichstag where you can leave a signature!

in the visitors book.

[Pavel_J]

In this book of harmful pages on the fingers count, and so it is the usual autobiography + political views and a description of the organization of the popular movement. The most harmful pages are where this scum expresses thoughts about the seizure of Russian lands, and this is in the early 20s!

[heal]

Quote: Pavel_J

The most harmful pages are where this scum expresses thoughts about the seizure of Russian lands, and this is in the early 20s!

Yes, he talks there about the possible alliance of Germany with either England or Russia. And gives arguments for and against any decision. As a result, he leaned in favor of England, most likely because the Fuhrer was against Marxism, which he constantly spoke about in the book.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Pavel_J

The most harmful pages are where this scum expresses thoughts about the seizure of Russian lands, and this is in the early 20s!

Did you even read?

[Pavel_J]

At the beginning of the 4th chapter, a thought was briefly expressed and at the end a separate chapter on Russia. He writes that there is no one to squeeze out new lands in Europe from anyone but Russia.

[Volzhanin]

No "Hitler" will lift Geyrop anywhere, including Germany.
The geyropu can no longer save the agonizing old slave woman. This is visible.

[Robert Nevsky]

EU and US heirs of the Third Reich!

[Stinger]

Mao said, "No matter how many books you read, you will not become an emperor." The main reason for the appearance of the Fuhrer, in my opinion, is that after the signing of the Versailles Treaty, the "victors" of Germany were constantly bullied and humiliated, made ridiculous demands, etc. (similar to us now, after the "victory" in the Cold War). He could not help but appear and play on the feelings of humiliation of the Germans. The same picture is with Soviet Russia. Permanent intervention from the west. killings of leaders, sabotage, intervention, etc. against our country could not but lead to the appearance of Stalin (he, by the way, is his birthday), who ultimately saved the leaders who gave birth to the Fuhrer, and Europe. But not the horse feed. Dullness is dullness. And no books can fix it. And today the same policy continues in relation to the "loser" Russia. Who just does not get scared, especially the mongrels under the NATO umbrella. Everybody teaches, pokes noses at any mistake, rushes about with their "values", and then they wonder where the leader came from, who said - that's enough!

[Gormenghast]

In the politics of many countries (internal and external), there are obvious signs of fascism. In the current policy, and not in the one that will someday be held. Something needs to be done with this..

In particular, social populism in the United States; endowment exceptional state citizens unearned by benefits (due to the robbery of the whole world) is a sign of fascism. It makes no difference that this is done without occupation. The fascists took out slaves from the conquered territories; the Americans do not take anyone out, the slaves remain at their place of permanent residence (but this does not stop them from being slaves serving the fatty "masters of the world")

Militarism and aggressive wars in which the states are dirty and Europe is Hitler’s policy.

[would]

Hitler perfectly inculcated Germans immunity to fascism, that there would never be problems with this. Fascism for Germany, in our opinion, is unacceptable, and will never be reborn

. To introduce the main book of German fascism into the curriculum for schoolchildren

You need to start with the fact that in Germany there was not fascism, but Nazism. If Italian fascism was meant, then these are different ideologies, but if fascism as a whole, then you can only laugh. So here it is not worth interfering with each other. But all kinds of journalists love this as well as mix nationalism, Nazism, fascism, ns-skinheads.

As for the re-release (yes, the book has already been published and sold more than once) of the book and inclusion in the school curriculum. Everyone is strongly opposed to Nazism, from toes to hair. Only when you start asking something specific, "What is Nazism? What are its fundamental pillars?" or something cooler "What is the Holocaust? What place did he occupy in Nazi ideology?", then you can easily hear some kind of nonsense, indistinct bleating or silence in response. Such people react exclusively to the words "fascism" - "Nazism", but they do not understand this. If Nazism comes again, they will not even understand that it is him, it will be enough for him to name himself differently. Otherwise, they will be confused by their brains (there is no level of knowledge) and they will support him.

And who are the most radical? Who is the most revolutionary? Who has always been one of the foundations of all revolutions and radical movements? Teenagers. As students in school and graduating from it. And it is they who need to show and tell what Nazism is, what fascism is, why it attracted and even attracts, and why it is bad. But how to do this without studying the main ideological works? No way, without them it’s a profanity.

[rus-5819]

To instill in youth hatred of what they are studying. To reveal, so to speak, an anti-people and aggressive entity.

And mercilessly give everyone "six" (in Germany, the reverse rating system is adopted)

[Egevich]

I recommend for the general development and understanding of the subject of the title topic
the book by V. M. Jordan "Great Britain, France and the German problem in 1918-1939." Gospolitizdat, Moscow, 1945
as well as:
- Willy Bredel "Ernst Thälmann" Foreign Literature Publishing House, Moscow, 1955;
- textbook "Modern history" (part one, 1917-1939) Gospolitizdat, Moscow, 1959
fascinating, I tell you, reading ...

[Dezinto]

Mariupol. Yesterday.

This reptile is spreading and cultivated in Ukraine, with the tacit consent of the West. AGAIN!

[wheel]

Quote: Ajent Cho

Again, Berlin will have to take ...

for starters, take Moscow, otherwise there are more fascists in it than in all of Germany

[would]

The Ukrainian flag is immediately visible. The photo is taken from one of the episodes of the Russian march, which the nationalists who hate each other unanimously dubbed a bunch of different names, the most innocuous of which is "the march of the zigging shkolota". But there were other episodes, including the participation of the Pan-Slavists.

[saygon66]

- "Mein Kampf" could be sold with the book "SS Forces in Action", "in the load" ... To clearly show what the idea of ​​National Socialism led to ...

[kazachyok69]

I am very confused by the fact that in Germany, in fact, there was no fascism ... For who else can give the definition of "fascism"? And compare with what happened in Germany? Fascism is Mussolini ... Germany is National Socialism ... a racial theme ...
Honestly, it is not clear why the whole world tried and caught the "Nazis", but we call them fascists ...
"Mein Kampf" by the way is now in Germany in 5000 copies released ..... Who watched it? Stupid writing - there is nothing smart about it in essence ..

[atalef]

Quote: kazachyok69

I am very confused by the fact that in Germany, in fact, there was no fascism ... For who else can give the definition of "fascism"? And compare with what happened in Germany? Fascism is Mussolini ... Germany is National Socialism .... a racial theme .... Honestly, it is not clear why the whole world tried and caught "Nazis", but we call them fascists ...

and what, do you imagine that they would be called national socialists?
In the socialist USSR?
The people would not understand

[Freeman]

I put a minus to the article. The hysteria of the "political officer in retirement" who was taught only "ideological clichés and slogans" is straightforward. And this is not even his fault. The blame lies with those who were responsible for ideology in the late period of the USSR and the CPSU. Breaking away from the masses, "resting on their laurels in the country of victorious socialism," they reduced all ideological work to the principle - "keep and not let go."

And what are you unhappy with? By doing your job in Germany for you?

Historically tear the mask from this anti-Semitic anti-humanist polemic pamphlet

Afraid of being politically untenable, having lost the skills of political debate?

And there are a great many writers, commentators and other "experts" in critics. And I'm not sure that their comments will be perceived worse than those that will be published in the book.

I believe that such a book should have appeared in the USSR and taught in high school. Then, perhaps, we could have avoided the current rampant Nazism in the Baltic states and Ukraine.

[wheel]

Quote: atalef

and what, do you imagine that they would be called national socialists?
In the socialist USSR?
The people would not understand

surely ! then the people in the ussr would immediately understand who is sitting on his neck!

[Koshak]

It remains to remind that grandfathers / great-grandfathers beat this evil spirits, not bothering with "Sorts of g * a"

[Mik13]

Quote: Koshak

It remains to remind that grandfathers / great-grandfathers beat this evil spirits, not bothering with "Sorts of g * a"

Not certainly in that way. In fact - they even bother.

Firstly, Comrade Stalin said that the Hitlers came and went, but the German people remained. (by the way, the German people remained largely due to the efforts of precisely Stalin - Churchill was going to set up an ethnocide for the Germans)

Secondly, Finland managed relatively cheaply - a little territory was seized - but people were saved. They still hold neutrality.

Thirdly, Romania, which started the war in one camp, ended in another. Also not particularly affected in the end.

Well, the Western Slavs (given the extremely ambiguous interpretation of political events) generally took advantage of the unique proposal "to understand and forgive."

And that is why the ATS existed before 1991, and broke up as a result of the betrayal of the ruling elite of the USSR, and not because of internal contradictions.

[VPavel]

Quote: Alexander72

A typical example for Germany is that a film was shot there recently (what is considered to be a comedy film - although comedy and the Germans are a tragedy and a farce) about A. Hitler. Moreover, the actor on the original is only like a haircut and mustache. But when the film crew and the main character of the film traveled around Germany, in most cases they were greeted very warmly, especially by the youth - everyone tried to take a picture with Hitler the actor, get an autograph from him, sing a song with him, etc. etc. There were frequent cases when he was greeted by Sieg Heil and throwing up his hands in Nazi greetings.

Unfortunately you are very right. And how did the Germans react in the audience when watching? He didn’t look, but was told that often his cues were greeted with applause and some even standing. The jokes in a Charlie-style movie, but it’s a laugh through tears.
For example: "What are the similarities between Jews and Muslims? Both of them are highly flammable" (It sounds like this in Russian) and so on.

[Was mammoth]

I am not a supporter of a complete ban on something. Limiting even hostile literature by age or other criteria, yes. How and how can experts think. Otherwise, we will argue according to the principle, "I have not read it, but I know" and there will be a possibility of manipulating the mind by the "specially selected".
PS I had no desire to read this book. Some kind of disgust.

[palm]

letter from the head of the Russian fascist union Konstantin Rodzaevsky I.V. To Stalin.


The leader of the nations
To the Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR,
Generalissimo of the Red Army
Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.



Every worker, every collective farmer can send a letter to the Leader of the Russian people - the Leader of the peoples of the Soviet Union - comrade I.V. To Stalin. Maybe this will be allowed to me, the Russian emigrant, who killed 20 years of his life in the struggle, which seemed to me and those who followed me, the struggle for the liberation and revival of our Motherland - Russia.
I want to explain the motives for the existence and activities of the so-called Russian Fascist Union and find an understanding of the excruciating drama of Russian emigration. Therefore, this letter is not so much of personal significance as it is trying to outline a way out of the impasse to many, many Russian people who are striving to bring all possible benefits to their homeland.
... In communism then internationalism was unacceptable to us, understood as contempt for Russia and Russians, denial of the Russian people, ..
We invented the image of the future - a new Russia, in which there will be no exploitation of man by either man or the state: neither capitalists, nor communists. “Not back to capitalism, but forward to fascism,” we shouted, putting in the word “fascism” a completely arbitrary interpretation that had nothing to do with either Italian fascism or German National Socialism. At the core of our program, we have placed the ideal of freely chosen councils based on the unification of the entire population into professional and industrial national unions. In my book The State of the Russian Nation, in 1941, I tried to outline a concrete plan for this utopian New Russia, as we imagined it: the National Councils and the leading National Party. We did not notice then that the functions of the national party at present in Russia, which became the USSR, are carried out by the CPSU (B.) And that the Soviets, as the new, young Russian intelligentsia grows, become more and more national, so the mythical “State of the Russian nation” and in essence, there is the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Deprived of the correct information and misinformed from all sides, we did not notice that in the USSR there was no evolution, no shifts, but a deeper and more vital process - the process of deepening the revolution, which included all the best aspirations of human nature. We did not notice that this organic and spontaneous process is closely connected with the directing genius I.V. Stalin, with the organized role of the Stalinist Party, with the increasing importance of the Russian Red Army.
... Stalinism, reconciling communism with religion, reconciled communism with the nation. It became clear that patriotism and nationalism, which were the instruments of the former ruling classes, became a powerful force of the victorious proletariat.
But for a long time we were confused by the Jewish question. In Harbin, Jewish capitalists set records for speculation and exploitative attitudes towards the working people.

[palm]

The Jews of all citizenships, both the USSR and the bourgeois countries, constituted one Jewish community, working in the interests of their class and their nation - international and internal to all other peoples of the Jewish nation. We did not have a racial approach to Jews, but, having studied the history of Jewry, we came to the conclusion that the Jewish religion, which inspires every Jew with the idea of ​​divine chosenness, that only Jews are human beings, and all the rest are only “humanoid creatures” - this bestial Talmudism turns every Jew into an antisocial enemy of every distinctive nation.
Communism in the form of Marxism seemed to us one of the tools of world Jewish capital to seize power over the world, and, prejudiced, we looked up Jewish families in the ruling bodies of the USSR, proving that our country was as if occupied by world Jewry. Only recently we came to the conclusion that it was the world social revolution, which deprived the Jewish capitalists, along with all other means of production and tools, financial capital, that alone could radically and in the general interest solve the Jewish question, like many other unbearable contradictions of the old world. At the same time, we found that Jewish influence in the USSR has long waned.
We did not immediately come to the conclusions presented here, for there were many doubts, deceptions, temptations, and vacillations in our path. Mistakenly calling our national labor movement “fascist”, we were forced to associate many Russian concepts with the concepts of fascist movements of foreign states. Living abroad and contacting foreign forces, we became captives and slaves of Russia's external enemies.
... But, speaking out against communism and the CPSU (b), we tried not to speak out against the Soviet state, although we convinced ourselves that the USSR was not Russia, but a “prison of Russia”, and we always, everywhere and in spite of all the prohibitions spoke with love about our Motherland , about Russia, about the great Russian people. In our anti-communist work, we proceeded from the false principle that “all means are good for the liberation of Russia”, that we must “liberate the Motherland from the Jews through the overthrow of the Soviet government at all costs”, and this terrible immoral tactical principle predetermined all the mistakes and crimes of the practical activities of the Russian fascist union.
Gloomy delusion! Out of love for the motherland, act against the motherland!
... Therefore, I ask all members of the organization, built on dictatorial principles, not to blame for Germanophilic politics, because for it, in fairness, I alone must answer, personally and individually. Not for self-justification, but for explanation, I consider it necessary to state that my pro-German propaganda was based on absolute misinformation. All sources of our knowledge, including Japanese and refugees from the USSR, assured us that "the Russian people are only waiting for an external impetus and that the situation under the yoke of the Jews is unbearable." At the same time, German representatives claimed that Hitler had no aggressive plans for Russia, that the war would soon end with the establishment of the Russian national government and the conclusion of an honorable peace with Germany ...
I released “An Appeal to the Unknown Leader”, in which I called on strong elements within the USSR to save the state and save millions of Russian lives sentenced to death in the war, to nominate some X-Command, “Unknown Leader”, capable of overthrowing “Jewish power” "And create a new Russia. I did not notice then that Comrade I.V. Stalin, the leader of the peoples, became such an unknown leader by the will of fate, his genius and millions of working masses.

[palm]

Having once made this terrible mistake in the war between Germany and the USSR, we could not repeat it in the war between the USSR and Japan, which the USSR started clearly for Russian national interests. Not immediately, but gradually we came to these conclusions set forth here. But they came and decided: Stalinism is precisely the very thing that we mistakenly called Russian fascism: this is our "Russian fascism", cleansed of extremes, illusions and errors.
And my present letter is not only a political confession, but also a statement of firm determination - to henceforth follow the real Russian path, the Soviet path, the path that the peoples of Stalin, the Soviet government, the Stalinist party lead - wherever this path leads me : to death, to a concentration camp or to the possibility of a new job.
As prodigal children who, on the eve of death, found their lost Motherland, we sincerely, honestly, openly and frankly, want to reconcile ourselves with our Motherland, we want our relatives, our Russian people and their leaders to understand that it was not self-interested personal or class motives that moved us and fiery love, love for the Motherland and people, national feeling and a national consciousness that got lost in the contradictions of the environment doomed us to hard work, to heavy sacrifices, to hopeless torment and cruel deadlock.
... Without abandoning my ideas, especially since these ideas in some part coincided with the leading ideas of the Soviet state, and resolutely abandoning the past 20 years of my anti-Soviet life, I entrust myself, my relatives, my comrades-in-arms, into the hands of those to whom our people entrusted their historical destinies in these decisive fire years. Death without a homeland, life without a homeland or work against a homeland is hell.
We want to either die by order of the Motherland or do any work for the Motherland anywhere. We want to give all our strength to our people and the holy cause of peace, the whole world through the victory of bright Stalinist ideas.
Let me conclude by quoting the words of our emigrant poet addressed to Motherland: “We have carried yours on the banners of the Name. Without You, we grew. “They grew up with Yours.”
And to supplement them with the slogan that today sounds from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific, giving rise to hope and joy in the hearts of the working people of the whole world: Long live Stalin, Leader of the peoples! Long live the invincible Russian Red Army, the liberator of peoples! Long live the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics - a bastion of peoples! Long live the Soviet nation - the Russian nation! Glory to the great Russian people! Glory to Russia!


A true story is not exactly what textbooks say.

[Litsvin]

The Germans are not fools. With Russia, they will no longer fight !!! The Slavs took Berlin twice, they will not want a third time. They just clean your Vaterland from all navolochi - homosexual, lesbian, parasites, pests, drug addicts, blacks, do not want to "integrate into Europe" and work the other bastards. Maybe they will become a catalyst for cleansing Europe from unrelated ethnic groups and all sorts of anti-human Jewish theories like universal equality, Bolshevism, liberalism, tolerance, "equal rights for homosexuals and homosexuals." All these antihuman "DEMOCRATIC" terias and doctrines were invented by the Zion sages with one practical purpose for themselves - the destruction and enslavement of states and peoples, enslavement and receiving gesheft for the "golden calf" they worship. It is quite clear that this will be opposed by the healthy forces of any nation - in our case, the German one. Other peoples of Europe will also follow them. Everything according to the laws of ethnogenesis and ethnogeography - God, when he divided the Earth, gave each people a piece of land, he did not leave one without a livelihood, even gypsies. And he said, "Get your bread by the sweat of your brow, be fruitful and multiply." And how the peoples disposed of their land is already the problem of these peoples. Everyone should live on their own land and build their homeland: Negroes - Africa, Chinese - China, Indians - America, Jews - Israel, Russians and other INDIGENOUS peoples of Russia - Russia, Japanese - Japan, etc. by the list. Interaction between peoples should be based on the exchange of advanced achievements and tourism. And then they set up a "new Babylon" in Europe - it will all end badly sooner or later. Vaughn Nostradamus predicted - "... in Europe there will be a war between the" cross "and the" crescent "for 15 years. Europe will become depopulated. The Great People of Hyperborea will save Europe and the Holy Cross will establish over Rome for all the remaining times ...
In short: "Peace to the peoples, to everyone in their own land !!!"

[Litsvin]

Quote: saygon66

- "Mein Kampf" could be sold with the book "SS Forces in Action", "in the load" ... To clearly show what the idea of ​​National Socialism led to ...

Dear Saigon. "Mein Kampf" was written for the idiot Hitler "overseas in the USA" by the Jewish Masons based on the Talmud. Only the word "goy" was replaced by "subhuman". Hitler was nurtured against the USSR when it became clear that the Jewish-Trotskyist kagal, who came to power in 1917, thanks to the Great Stalin, was first removed from power in 1924-1926, and then destroyed. The idea of ​​National Socialism is not new. She is about 2500 years old - this is a modern interpretation of the Jewish idea of ​​their chosenness, and all the rest are dust under the Jewish chirp. Just think - who would say this, a miserable tribe, "expelled from Egypt" (from V. Vysotsky's "Mishka Shifman") for a parasitic lifestyle. When there were the Great States of Antiquity on Earth - Assyria, Egypt, the Sumerian kingdom of the Jews did not even exist as an ethnic group. Alexander the Great passed through a Jew and did not even notice such a land and its "self-chosen" people. In the chronicles of his campaigns "these chosen ones" are not even mentioned. The great Ancient Greeks, with their philosophy, also decomposed all this kagal and did not allow them to parasitize at home, while the Jews were simply afraid to enter into polemics with the Greeks, because the ancient Greek people were not dark, but were educated and enlightened, stood by the level of their development for several heads higher than the Jews.
And the "Revolution of 1917" project, and the "3rd Reich" project, and the "Holocaust" project are all from there - from the Talmud. At the same time, the overseas developers of "Project 3 Reich" for the sake of another "golden gesheft" did not regret even their poor relatives in their pockets - those who were richer, of course, were taken to the USA, those who were poorer were sent to camps. For some reason, Hitler did not solve the Jewish question either in 1934, or in 1936, or in 1939, or in 1941? And he began to decide only in 1942, when after the battle of Moscow it became clear to American analysts that the USSR could no longer be defeated, so it was necessary to completely milk out Germany and lay a "blame complex" on it after the war. A classic example of the "double policy" of the 3rd Reich "on the Jewish question" is the phrase of Hermann Goering: "I myself will figure out here who is a Jew and who is not." Everything else - there are different NSDAP, SS, Gestapo, camps, nothing more than a screen hiding the truth. Gold received by the Germans, including from "people", calmly settled in Swiss banks, among the owners of which there are NO JEWS, not a single one. For the same reason, Hitler did not "include Switzerland in the bosom of the Reich," as he skillfully did with Austria. Germany during World War II actively traded with American Jewish companies, paying with the same gold from the "Holocaust". The Rothschild Statoil company regularly supplied petroleum products up to February 2, also with metals, etc. And when the Great Soviet Warrior-Winner took Berlin, Hitler and his gang were simply "flushed down the toilet" by American puppeteers. At the same time, they achieved their goals - Europe is destroyed, Russia is in ruins and poverty-stricken (1945% of Soviet gold, 76% of Soviet platinum, precious stones were exported to the United States for "Lend-Lease"), the British Empire as the main trade competitor has been eliminated, the Empire of Japan has collapsed and removed from the eastern markets. On the other hand, the United States, from a beggar country, became a world creditor, enslaved the FRG after the war according to the same "Marshal plan", then gave loans to Japan, etc. Here is the main enemy of mankind - the "democratic" USA, and not some kind of "National Socialism".

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Quote: Litsvin

Hitler was fed against the USSR, when it became clear that the Jewish-Trotskyite kagal, who came to power in 1917, was first removed from power in 1924-1926 thanks to the Great Stalin, and then destroyed.

The problem with your theory came out. With dates, well, pure trouble. Everything, as you say, is just not so.

Quote: Litsvin

when it became clear to American analysts after the battle of Moscow that the USSR could no longer be defeated

Yes? And before Stalingrad and the Volga in 1942, is that so, lured? What for?

Quote: Litsvin

76% of Soviet gold, 94% of Soviet platinum, precious stones exported to the United States for "Lend-Lease"

You should have studied decency for the sake of what Lend-Lease is. And then expose yourself in an unsightly light.

Quote: Litsvin

But the United States from a beggar country has become a global lender

In how. The United States, before WW2, turned out to be a beggar country. And do not you immediately immediately sit down for a dissertation on this subject? The topic is not developed at all. Be famous.

[Litsvin]

CONTINUED: The above is briefly written to the fact that we, the Slavs, must learn from our mistakes - to separate "grain from chaff", "cause from effect". And not to be dragged into the next year 1914, 1917 or 1941, so that on our blood and troubles "the kind democratically transatlantic uncle with the Talmud" does not earn his next billions not with "pieces of paper", but with gold. Therefore, you need to take care of your Slavic world, your Motherland, and not succumb to "demonic temptations" such as "plunder the loot" or "general labor international" (in fact - a Jewish concentration camp for the goyim). We will draw the correct conclusions from the past - we will live in the World, Free and on our own land !!!

[Litsvin]

Dear Palmsky, I take off my hat to you !!! Nicely written and understandable. Well done. I am not an ardent supporter of the Great Stalin because of his excesses, or rather the excesses of those who "overdosed below." But if it were not for the Great Stalin, the Russian world and Slavic culture would no longer be "alive" like our Russia and Belarus. On our land, thickly watered with the blood and sweat of our Great Ancestors, there would be one big "Slavic ghetto, where the indigenous peoples of the former USSR would drag out a miserable existence." Glory to the Great Stalin and the Great Russian Victory People, who defeated "Jewish National Socialism" in 1945 !!!

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Quote: Litsvin

On our land, thickly watered with the blood and sweat of our Great Ancestors, there would be one big "Slavic ghetto, where the indigenous peoples of the former USSR would drag out a miserable existence."

Those. in the days of Stalinist socialism, the USSR was not a country where the population eked out a miserable existence? Where did you come from? Is it from Mars?

Quote: Litsvin

But if it were not for the Great Stalin, the Russian world and Slavic culture would no longer be "alive" like our Russia and Belarus.

Yes? But what then did Stalin destroy with his Bolsheviks?

[lazma3]

Perhaps this book will become a desktop at Merkel, if her government allowed this muck to publish.

[The point]

We must continue the right thing!

[The point]

Oh, did neo-Nazis appear on the site? Someone is minus. Moderator, ay!