Sevmash CEO: Admiral Nakhimov’s modernization works are on schedule

PO Sevmash (Severodvinsk) fits into the schedule for the repair and modernization of the nuclear cruiser Admiral Nakhimov (project 11442М), said yesterday the company's general director Mikhail Budnichenko.

“At present, the work carried out by Sevmash, fit into the timing schedules. Contracts for the supply of equipment with a long production cycle. The first deliveries of equipment to the cruiser will begin in the 2016 year ", - the general director quotes the newspaper Look.

The publication reminds that “the heavy nuclear missile cruiser Admiral Nakhimov was delivered for scheduled repairs in August 1999 of the year, and in the autumn of 2008 of the year the spent nuclear fuel was unloaded from the ship”. Earlier it was reported that the ship will be armed with the Caliber missile system and the Polyment-Redut air defense system.

“The advancement of work on the 11442M cruiser is under constant control, the course of ship repair is also on the agenda of the interdepartmental working group under the board of the Military Industrial Commission,” Budnichenko added.

A total of 4 cruisers of the 11442M project (Orlan) were built in the Russian Federation. According to the newspaper, “only one of them, Peter the Great, is in combat status, the modernization of which can begin in 2019 after the Admiral Nakhimov TARK is restored in 2018 on Sevmash (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation)” .

Comments

[Vladimyrych]

Well, yes, yes, yes ... And as a result it will turn out like with 22350.
So far, they will not introduce a criminal article for the failure of the StateOboronOrder and will twist dynamos.

[MIKHALYCH1]

Thing! May God grant faster ...

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX

Thing! May God grant faster ...

Yes, a powerful ship .. And with his sister ship "Admiral Lazarev" now, how are things, no one knows? It seems that recently the dock repairs were carried out and they were going to modernize. Has something moved?

[amba balamut 77]

Before selling on nails, the case is not sandblasted and not painted. Apparently the Navy command on Lazarev has some plans.

[Denis Obukhov]

Quote: amba balamut 77

Before selling on nails, the case is not sandblasted and not painted. Apparently the Navy command on Lazarev has some plans.

“At present, it has been decided to restore the heavy nuclear missile cruisers of Project 1144. So, in 2014 OJSC“ 30 SRZ ”carried out dock repair and survey of the cruiser“ Admiral Lazarev ”, in the future it will be overhauled and modernized in Severodvinsk according to the reduced technical modernization project heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" project 1144.2 ".

[dyksi]

They wrote that at least three of the four ships could still be restored and modernized. I hope that this will be so, if only to add speed, everything has been done for a very long time, this also applies to the construction of new ships and the modernization of those in service.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Vladimir

And as a result it will turn out like with 22350

What is wrong with 22350?

[Vladimyrych]

Quote: saturn.mmm

What is wrong with 22350?

But what if he was launched into the water in 2006, and now 2015? Isn’t there a lot of tons for XR in 4.5?
Threat.
Oh yes. The deadlines for entering the invoice are transferred to 2016. Without mentioning the month, date.

[Wiruz]

But what if he was launched into the water in 2006, and now 2015? Isn’t there a lot of tons for XR in 4.5?
Threat.
Oh yes. The deadlines for entering the invoice are transferred to 2016. Without mentioning the month, date.

+ the series "got up". About further bookmarks are silent

[Vladimyrych]

Dvigunov nema. There were two buildings. "Kasatonov" seems to be on the water already but ...

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Vladimir

Dvigunov Nem

So go to Nikolaev, ask, in "Zorya-Mashproekt". Maybe you, as a Frenchman, will not be refused? And then Russia even refuses to supply paid turbines.
Or will we wait for the GTU from Saturn?

[Mikado]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Quote: Vladimir

Dvigunov Nem

So go to Nikolaev, ask, in "Zorya-Mashproekt". Maybe you, as a Frenchman, will not be refused? And then Russia even refuses to supply paid turbines.
Or will we wait for the GTU from Saturn?

In general, this is a shame. A huge country, we can’t make a ship’s engine .. It's a pity, damn it ..

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: Vladimir

Dvigunov Nem

So go to Nikolaev, ask, in "Zorya-Mashproekt". Maybe you, as a Frenchman, will not be refused? And then Russia even refuses to supply paid turbines.
Or will we wait for the GTU from Saturn?

[Yorgven]

The State Duma, urgently need to pass a law on polite collectors ...

[Roman 25]

Long time, I agree. But do not mislead people Frigate "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" was launched at the end of October 2010 !!! It was laid down in 2006.
Three more are being built along it, two of them should be ready according to plan in 3 (laid down in 2016 and 2009).

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Vladimir

Oh yes. The deadlines for entering the invoice are transferred to 2016. Without mentioning the month, date.

They will accept two, together with Kasatonov.
The frigate was launched in 2010 and laid down in 2006, sort of.

[g1v2]

Given that the 22350 was designed for systems and weapons, which were developed in parallel with the construction of the ship, not too much.
Quote from the DOD Summer GDP Report. "The failure of the shipyard" Severnaya Verf "to complete the tests of the systems of the lead frigate of project 22350" Admiral of the Soviet Union Gorshkov "within the established time limits. automation of the "Linkor" with the construction time of the ship. "
Now all the systems are ready. The lead ship is naturally most thoroughly tested. Gorshkov, in my opinion, had to shoot some types of weapons. The ship is ready. Another thing is most likely its adoption in operation by any date will be timed. Maybe February 23, maybe some other holiday.
But by the end of this year there will also be acceptance. In December, the PSKR was handed over to the border guards, the Navy received a large hydrographic boat, the Akademik Kovalev naval armament transport, and the Sviyaga transport floating dock. I think that something else will be handed over to NG.

[Denis Obukhov]

On the modernization of "Nakhimov"
Purchases of Sevmash OJSC on modernization of Admiral Nakhimov TARKr (from the schedule for this year).
UKSUR ZR-14N-11442M - 120 million rubles. [universal shipboard fire control system]
Product 3C-14 - 1,2 billion rubles. [vertical launch launchers]
SM-456-22350 - 88 million rubles. [set of loading facilities]
Product 3M-48 - 120 million rubles. [anti-aircraft missile system S-300FM]
Complex 3M87-1F - 280 million rubles. [modification of ZRAK Cortic-M?]
3P87-1F, 4387-2F - 80 million rubles. [ZRAK 3H87-1 combat module]
3R-86M - 75,2 million rubles. [ZRAK Dagger control module]
Air defense control systems - 80 million rubles.

MTPK Package - 202,96 million rubles. [mine-torpedo anti-submarine complex]


RESU 5P-10 - 40 million rubles. [Puma fire control system]
MREK 5P-20K - 60 million rubles. [multifunctional electronic complex]
MP-650 product - 144 million rubles. [Radar “Pereberezik”]
Product 5P-30P - 70,9 million rubles. [data processing system]
NRS MR-232-3, MK-54IS - 20 million rubles. [navigation radar, electronic cartographic navigation information system]
NRL MR-231 - 10 million rubles. [navigation radar]
Complex MTK-201 M1.2 - 200 million rubles. [multifunctional optoelectronic television complex]
5P-28-11442M - 351,8 million rubles. [EW TK-28 complex?]
Product Enchantress-18280 - 20 million rubles. [VHF radio direction finding station]
5P-23 - 40 million rubles. [the system for ensuring the electromagnetic compatibility of the radio-electronic means of the ship, developed by KB "Ametist"]

System Minotaur ISPN-M.1 - 120 million rubles. [towed Gus]
MGS-30M equipment - 4 million rubles. [emergency control system]
GAS MG-757.3 - 14,6 million rubles. [omitted by Anapa-M GAS]
POA-RG products Amga-M - 10 million rubles. [GAS ​​sonar buoy signal reception]

KSU TS - 500 million rubles. [integrated ship hardware management system]
ICS MN - 460 million rubles. [multi-purpose information management system]
IMS Bridge-11442 - 12 million rubles. [integrated bridge system]
Sigma-11442M system - 160 million rubles. [combat information management system]
SEV and EC Gnome-2M-11442 - 48 million rubles. [system of uniform time and reference frequencies]
Navigation complex Chardash 11442М - 160 mln.
The complex of hydrometeorological support Character-K - 10 million rubles.
Product Lock-11442M - 28 million rubles. [system of joint safe use of weapons]
AKS R-779-16 "Ruberoid" - 1,2 billion rubles. [automated communication complex]
Product Platan-MR - 25,4 million rubles. [ship time equipment]
P-403 equipment - 44 million rubles. [alert equipment]
Desalination plants P5S-2 - 68 million rubles.
MTXM-2000RM turbocompressor refrigerating machines - 100 million rubles.
Complex KTS "GAMMA-01F" - 44 million rubles. [complex of technical means of security and fire automatics]
Room monitoring system SMKP-M-11442M - 16 mln.ru

[evge-malyshev]

Denis Obukhov, fear God. If you own such information - hold your mouth shut. Is it really incomprehensible?

[alex86]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

Product 3C-14 - 1,2 billion rubles. [vertical launch launchers]

- that is, Granite will be replaced by Caliber (and BraMos, as I understand it, will fit into them) - here with a range, like RCC, I see problems - they will not allow them to launch carriers at launch range, and increasing the range will cause a targeting problem . Who will clarify?

[Denis Obukhov]

I always believed that the modernization of 3 Orlanes and 6-7 Steller sea lions is several times more effective than riveting a surrogate of the 20380 project. I’m silent about megagluck under the Leader code.

[Olegater]

The news is good. Our fleet is being modernized. This is the most difficult and necessary part of Russia's defense. But there is a question, but will we manage to modernize and put into operation all our TARKs for the defense of the country before a major conflict?

[Tusv]

Quote: Olegater

But will we manage to modernize and put into operation all our TARKs for the defense of the country before a major conflict?

"And Vaska listens, but eats." This year is a breakthrough year for the fleet. Nearly two dozen new and updated ships are already telling the foe: "I am not sleeping."

[Vadim237]

And 18 of these 20 are auxiliary vessels. The year is truly a breakthrough - as many as 2 combat surface ships.

[Tusv]

Quote: Vadim237

And 18 of these 20 are auxiliary vessels.

You're right! changing a bottle, you have a snack and wine.
2 auxiliary submarine units of the "improved Kilo" type aka Varshavyanka, 2 auxiliary ones armed at the level of an American destroyer, ocean-going frigates of the admiral's series (up to a bunch of ischo, a couple are being tested), 2 small patrol boats (one of which, from it nau, drives the entire Ukrainian fleet) and yesterday's refurbished SSGN. This is so offhand.
All of them are really auxiliary for their safety.

[Vadim237]

I'm talking about surface combat ships, not boats and submarines.

[Olegater]

Then I remembered the satirist M. Evdokimov with his satire about a peasant coming from a bath, I am not citing literally: "I live on one end of the village and my dad is on the other and we do not touch anyone." This is probably how it is needed with the defense industry in the Far East and in the European part powerful fleets and they do not touch anyone - they do not touch anyone yet. I agree that a large budget and trained personnel are needed. The Ministry of Defense knows better what to do. I just expressed my thoughts.

[MIKHALYCH1]

"Nakhimov" In Turkey they are waiting in the Bosphorus! Keep up the pace guys!

[The black]

In fact, this is an arsenal ship! The warship, on board which after modernization will be
there is a very large number of high-precision missile weapons designed primarily for the simultaneous destruction of coastal targets, including deep in enemy territory. (according to some sources, up to 80 cruise missiles and many other "goodies" for the enemy)

[v1tz]

Yes, I don’t really want to argue with such a ship ... it’s a serious thing, it can override one type.

[NEXUS]

On Nakhimich and the 18th year, there is still not a lot of work. And the news that modernization is on schedule is good. But I would like to speed up all this, because after that TARK will be upgraded to Petka. And the world is really not calm .

[Tusv]

Quote: NEXUS

in view of the fact that after this TARK Petka will be modernized. And the world is really not calm.

Well, Petya will stand on a planned modernization, the adversary will not get any easier

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tusv

Well, Petya will stand on a planned modernization, the adversary will not get any easier

Do you think that the TARK, located in the dock, is just as dangerous for the adversary as it is at sea? They will put Petya on modernization in 19, if the deadlines are not set. Another 3 years they will rearm. All this for a long time, you see. One hope, that by the year 20 we can build at least one Leader. Although the hope is weak.

[Tusv]

Quote: NEXUS

Do you think that the TARK, located in the dock, is as dangerous for the adversary as in the sea?

TARK is safe for NAT at the time of dismantling, when the weapons are removed. 5 months maximum unarmed. What is it stuffed with? Only a few know, and tens of thousands of bright elves are racking their brains

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tusv

TARK is safe for NAT at the time of dismantling, when the weapons are removed. 5 months maximum unarmed. What is it stuffed with? Only a few know, and tens of thousands of bright elves are racking their brains

Now, more than ever, the question of building Leaders is more acute. The Orlans and Atlanta are aging and they are all Soviet-built. Modernization will extend their service for another 10-15 years. That's during this time, we are obliged to build a replacement for them.

[lis-ik]

Really weak, and after the press conference and very "weak" answers on economic issues (in fact, the cunning with numbers), hope disappears altogether, although someone has to defend the "bowels".

[amba balamut 77]

With all due respect, by the 20th year, this is from the category of humor, black humor. Our "effective managers" take longer to build corvettes and frigates of the used series. There will be no pack at the top of the order ala Singapore, luck will not be seen.

[Million]

Today is the birthday of Leonid Brezhnev! It is strange that VO didn’t remember ....

[MIKHALYCH1]

Quote: Million

Today is the birthday of Leonid Brezhnev! It is strange that VO didn’t remember ....

Nothing strange..
A good leader was though!
Well, have you eaten a sausage and everyone’s imported clothes?Oh well....

[lelikas]

Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX

A good leader was though!

He simply was not allowed to leave on time, you see, and history would go a different way.

[kostya-petrov]

Quote: lelikas

He was simply not allowed to leave on time.

We have lived in communism 15 years of 18-ty! Under L.I. Brezhnev, what army was there, only nuclear submarines were worth what, everything worked and was released! And what children grew up !!! And what was the industry !!! Yes, there were a lot of things in the USSR under the dear Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev !!!

[Rokossovsky]

A good leader was though!

That's right!

[kostya-petrov]

Quote: Million

Today is the birthday of Leonid Brezhnev! It is strange that VO didn’t remember ....

And dear Leonid Ilyich was also the Supreme Commander of the USSR Armed Forces!
It would be nice if VO would make a brief review of the state of the USSR Armed Forces during his reign. How much they built, how many they created, etc.
The board of dear Leonid Ilyich, as General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU of the Russian Federation, is remembered by everyone, and everyone responds with warmth.

[Million]

He also fought and had military awards.

[kostya-petrov]

Quote: Million

He also fought and had military awards.

By the way, how many awards does he have in total ???

[MIKHALYCH1]

Quote: kostya-petrov

Quote: Million

He also fought and had military awards.

By the way, how many awards does he have in total ???

On a liberal site, go there and count up to a gram!

[Pirogov]

Yes Leonid Ilyich GOLDEN MAN! Kingdom of Heaven!

[Aleksander]

Quote: Pirogov

Yes Leonid Ilyich GOLDEN MAN! Kingdom of Heaven!

Yes, he was remarkable precisely for the best human qualities — he was simple and decent.

[I am Russian]

Quote: Million

Today is the birthday of Leonid Brezhnev! It is strange that VO didn’t remember ....

And December 18 was the birthday of I.V. Stalin.

[Metlik]

In total, 4 cruisers of the 11442M project (Orlan) were built in the USSR (and not in the Russian Federation).

[Belij]

Project 1144.2 only "Peter the Great" - the fourth cruiser. It was completed in 1998. All four ships differ in composition and armament layout. Project 1144.2M - developed for the modernization of the "Admiral Nakhimov" in 2013-2014.

[Mountain shooter]

Modernization is often more difficult than rebuilding. Moreover, much on the ship is outdated, and ALL circumstances must be taken into account. It is especially difficult to design such upgrades. There were no computer models in those days.

[Pirogov]

That’s exactly what you need to build with a smaller tonnage but with strong weapons!

[amba balamut 77]

Yeah, right! The tankers of the T-90 should be mounted on UAZs, and the pilots on missiles and General Staff on Newport and balloons. Large tonnage is evil! Probably the poet every time when passing by Britain, our Orlan flew around a twirl of the British with the first Lord of the Admiralty. The main quality of the ship is seaworthiness, and here the Eagles will give anyone a head start.

[Pirogov]

Large tonnage is certainly good, but it’s not a panacea, to begin with, the fleet needs to update the same frigates built for India ,,, Talwar ,, than what's bad? Are you a woman that you need more authentic and thicker?

[Pirogov]

Country India
Type Frigate
General characteristics
Length (m): 124,5
Width (m): 15,2
Displacement (tons): 3850
Speed ​​(knots): 32
Cruising range (miles): 4600
Draft (m): 4,2
Crew: 180
Armament
Guns: 1 A-190
Torpedo tubes: 4 533 mm
Helicopters: 1 Ka-28
Air defense systems: 2 Dagger
1 3S-90 (export version of M-22 Hurricane)
PLC: 2 RBU-6000
UVP (cells): 8 3С-14 for Club-N or PJ-10 BraMos ,,,,, As for me, an acceptable option. And you can strengthen the weapons for yourself.

[evge-malyshev]

"Admiral Nakhimov" was put for scheduled maintenance back in August 1999, in the fall of 2008 spent nuclear fuel was unloaded from the ship ”.

"Peter the Great", the modernization of which may begin in 2019 after in 2018 at Sevmash (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) TARK "Admiral Nakhimov" will be restored ”.

It is unfortunate that the repair cycle is almost 20 (TWENTY !!!) years.

[evge-malyshev]

Answer minSYoRAM: Do you think that 20 years to repair, is this normal? The longer, the better?

[VALERIK_097]

Whatever, you didn’t say there is an excuse for such terms, it’s very harsh, for now, let it go. Just one sore, read the articles about "Peter the Great" you will understand.
SRZ "Nerpa" with OKBM "named after Afrikantov" -cruiser went out, sent to the seas.
With "Nakhimov" to see, they decided something, they will give a second life))). I would very much like that.
But the ship inspires respect even at the pier. A word of honor.

[Wiruz]

I don’t understand something. The main air defense system will be "redoubt" ??? The overwhelmed S-350 ???

I hope they just don’t tell us about plans to install the S-500 on it

[Vladimyrych]

There will be no "Polyment Reduta". "Fort" will remain with the drums as it is now. Not even UVP as in "Calm" at 11356p.

Quote: Wiruz

I hope they just don’t tell us about plans to install the S-500 on it

They laughed and killed ooh ...
There is no sea-based S-400, and the S-500 is generally wet dreams so far, even for land forces. He still has five years to test, at least five years.

[Wiruz]

S-400 sea based no

Argue figs

The S-500 is generally wet dreams so far, even for land forces. He still has five years to test, at least five years.

Well, I don’t know, there is talk that his land version will be adopted for the coming year.

At the expense of leaving the drum Fort ... Well, I don’t know, yet 48n6dm is better than 9m96m. And if you take for granted the rumors about the possibility of putting 4 9m96m instead of one 48n6dm - then generally it’ll work out well

[Pirogov]

For 20 years, are ships recovering too fast? Isn't it easier to build corvettes and arm them well?

[From Samara]

SAM "Poliment-Redoubt" for the nuclear cruiser is weak, it is suitable for corvettes ...

[Resistance]

Quote: Pirogov

For 20 years, are ships recovering too fast? Isn't it easier to build corvettes and arm them well?

Count the calendar time and draw conclusions from this? With normal funding, our cap. repairs are done faster than Americans by 4-6 months. And as always, we are modestly silent about this. And Nakhimov, on the topic of cap. repair, around is not an indicator.
The same with 855 "Ash" (Severodvinsk), the piece of iron lay for more than 10 years, did not touch anyone, and did not touch it. And, wow! A quarter of a century was built: o)))

[Pirogov]

So the fact of the matter is that finance is not very good, and I believe that during this time it was possible to build more than one corvette or frigate, while many ships were very outdated, but in the current situation time is money!

[Old26]

Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX

"Nakhimov" In Turkey they are waiting in the Bosphorus! Keep up the pace guys!

Where otherwise. We only hear, either in the Bosphorus, or in Syria. And to ask a question, what for it is difficult there? I'm not talking about the prohibition of entry into the Black (and Baltic, by the way) of the sea ships with nuclear weapons

Quote: NEXUS

On Nakhimich and the 18th year, there is still not a lot of work. And the news that modernization is on schedule is good. But I would like to speed up all this, because after that TARK will be upgraded to Petka. And the world is really not calm .

The news is really good. But you shouldn't talk about "Wishlist" again. Yes, I would like to, but you have to be realistic. As far as I remember, our warships have not undergone such a large-scale modernization, with the exception of an Indian aircraft carrier. Replacing a large amount of equipment, especially with a long production time, is a rather difficult task, in the implementation of which dozens, if not hundreds of enterprises are involved. And even if the graph shifts to the right, there is nothing super scary about it. But the cycle will be worked out, experience gained and the modernization of the next one will be easier

[Alex777]

Yeah, but where was atomic Ulyanovsk built?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Alex777

Yeah, but where was atomic Ulyanovsk built?

In Nikolaev and at the time of the Union. We are talking about the Russian period.

[azesm]

Quote: Mikado

PO Sevmash (Severodvinsk) fits into the schedule for the repair and modernization of the nuclear cruiser Admiral Nakhimov (project 11442М), said yesterday the company's general director Mikhail Budnichenko.

Sevmash CEO: Admiral Nakhimov’s modernization works are on schedule


“At present, the work carried out by Sevmash fits into the timelines. Contracts have been signed for the supply of equipment with a long manufacturing cycle. The first deliveries of equipment to the cruiser will begin in the 2016 year, ”the newspaper Vzglyad quoted the general director.
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The publication reminds that “the heavy nuclear missile cruiser Admiral Nakhimov was delivered for scheduled repairs in August 1999 of the year, and in the autumn of 2008 of the year the spent nuclear fuel was unloaded from the ship”. Earlier it was reported that the ship will be armed with the Caliber missile system and the Polyment-Redut air defense system.

“The advancement of work on the 11442M cruiser is under constant control, the course of ship repair is also on the agenda of the interdepartmental working group under the board of the Military Industrial Commission,” Budnichenko added.

A total of 4 cruisers of the 11442M project (Orlan) were built in the Russian Federation. According to the newspaper, “only one of them, Peter the Great, is in combat status, the modernization of which can begin in 2019 after the Admiral Nakhimov TARK is restored in 2018 on Sevmash (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation)” .

say thanks to Putin, who merged Novorossia with Mr. Nikolaev and his shipyards to our enemies

say thanks

[From Samara]

Such a cruiser without aviation support will sink quickly in the ocean ...

[amba balamut 77]

Not a minus, but enlighten, please, whoever can do this, much less quickly.

[From Samara]

And Cho minus That? Minus one fools in this case, not understanding the essence ...



Without air cover, any ship is a vulnerable and slow-moving iron box, even despite the layered (3 echelon) air defense of these cruisers, the USSR created them on the basis of naval doctrine, where the Soviet aircraft carriers of the Ulyanovsk project should play the role of a comprehensive cover and increase combat stability. ..

Missile cruiser without air cover target.

[NEXUS]

Quote: From Samara

Without air cover, any ship is a vulnerable and slow-moving iron box, even despite the layered (3 echelon) air defense of these cruisers, the USSR created them on the basis of naval doctrine, where the Soviet aircraft carriers of the Ulyanovsk project should play the role of a comprehensive cover and increase combat stability. ..

Of course it would be nice to have air support and cover for Petra and Nakhimych, but so far they are only dreams. But there is a significant mistake in your post ... do you really think that the same Petka walks alone? Besides his air defense, there are also air defense destroyers accompanying it, and small ships (this is an order) .Therefore, it is necessary to consider the destruction of the TARK from the side of the destruction of the entire order. And this, believe me, is not so simple even for AUG.

[From Samara]

My friend in the Ocean besides submarines. Without aviation cover there is nothing to do, the United States has numerous aircraft carrier groups that can attack not only several waves with aircraft but also cruise missiles at the same time ...

The first wave of fighters can completely neutralize ship’s air defense, while the second will shoot unarmed targets with powerful bombs, and cruise missiles will be finished next ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: From Samara

My friend in the Ocean except submarines. Without aviation cover there is nothing to do, the United States has numerous aircraft carrier groups that can attack not only several waves by aircraft but also cruise missiles ...

What are you saying? That is, how the frail wreck will tear our order?
Dear, in addition to defense complexes, the warrant has means of attack. In addition, the warrant always contains one or two submarines that will definitely not watch how they are trying to sink the TARK. And one more thing, during some kind of aggressive actions with respect to our order, ALL shock components will be automatically applied, including with the YaZ. Or do you, Batenka, seriously believe that there are no YaZ missiles on Petka and the accompanying submarines?

[From Samara]

Before writing anything, one must realize the combat capabilities of the US and Russian fleets ... It is simply ridiculous to compare them. Yanks are also present at Yankee. Yes! YaZ still needs to be applied, Yankee already has cruise missiles flying for sure ...
You can argue until you turn blue, but in the Ocean we can’t pull against the USA, but the USA, Japan, France, Great Britain have a stronger fleet ...

History shows that we should not bet on the surface fleet ... we lose.

[NEXUS]

Quote: From Samara

Before writing anything, one must realize the combat capabilities of the US and Russian fleets ...

Dear, where did you see in my post the statement that our fleet can compete with the NATO fleet on equal terms?
You stated that it’s easy and simple to destroy our TARK. To this I replied that in the case of the AUG fighting against our Order, the result is not at all obvious. At the same time, I emphasized that, of course, our orders need air cover.

[From Samara]

When I wrote that they would drown it easily, I proceeded from this: the cruiser’s shortcomings include the presence of only one multichannel radar for target illumination for the S-300F air defense system (Volna radar). In addition to the fact that in the event of a failure it leaves the ship without adequate protection, it also does not allow the cruiser to repulse the attack from more than one direction at a time. For comparison, comparable in size American Ticonderoga class cruisers have 4 independent target radars, which allows them to repel simultaneous attacks from more than one direction. The presence of only one guidance radar significantly reduces the capabilities of Project 1164 ships to combat modern anti-ship missiles with the ability to multisectoral attack.

I didn’t think that I would have to chew ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: From Samara

I didn’t think that I would have to chew ...

Dear, I don’t need to chew anything. You too believe in the weakness of our warrant, while overstating the capabilities of mattress ships.
By the way, so, for reflection ... with a high probability Zircon projectiles will be delivered to Nakhimov. And according to some reports, this is a hypersonic missile with a range of 1000 km. As far as sclerosis doesn’t change me, the radius of the air wing is the same ... And now the question - if there will be such a complex at TARK that the adversary’s aircraft carrier will be?

[Garris199]

Quote: From Samara

The presence of only one guidance radar significantly reduces the capabilities of Project 1164 ships

I hear a ring, but I don’t know where he is. And here is 1164? Article about TARK 1144. There are two S-300 complexesFM and two radars, respectively.

[Belij]

Previously, like every 4th special ammunition

[Alex777]

Right now, one carrier group in the Atlantic, and one in the Pacific. And that’s all ...

[amba balamut 77]

One small question, how much is the likely adversary willing to pay for this target? You yourself say 3 echelons of air defense, this is not 25 mm Yamato, the loss of two planes is not enough. And if you also take into account that sickly gifts will arrive in the same answer, the carrier will not always be outside the KR strike zone, who are those brave guys who, like you scornfully call the Orlans - a slow-moving target box? Tell me, did the Kuzi project (I’m not talking about Ulyanovsk) appear not after the birth of Kirov in metal?

[From Samara]

So far this is only your vision, but in fact, I see our few ships sailing into the ocean, accompanied exclusively by emergency tugboats ... Only the madman can compete with the USA in the Ocean ... Everything else ... Blah ... blah ... blah

[NEXUS]

Quote: From Samara

. Everything else ... Blah ... blah ... blah

Well, why? Mattresses are also not fools and understand that in the event of aggression of their ships in the open ocean against our ships (which is tantamount to declaring war), a nuclear strike will be delivered at the bases where the aircraft carriers stand. Of 11 US carriers in the sea usually one or two dangles. So it's not blah blah, but realities.
And regarding the scarcity of our surface fleet ... so, alas, nothing really was built in 20 years. Now, it seems, they took up the fleet and thank God.

[From Samara]

The fleet is expensive, it is symmetrically unreasonable, expensive and stupid to respond. Why do expensive nuclear-powered cruisers in the ocean without aircraft carriers? Especially if there is a nuclear war ... money down the drain ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: From Samara

The fleet is expensive, it is symmetrically unreasonable, expensive and stupid to respond. Why do expensive nuclear-powered cruisers in the ocean without aircraft carriers? Especially if there is a nuclear war ... money down the drain ...

In order to build aircraft carriers, you need to build escort ships: TARKs, ARKs, destroyers, and not vice versa. At the same time, RESTORE the school of building ships of the first rank. And not be like that hero Vitsin from "Operation Y" with pots.

[From Samara]

To build such ships, I repeat, I need a resource ... the USSR has already stepped on this ...

Maybe someone just wants to cut money with this sauce?

[amba balamut 77]

In the ocean, yes, but the Nexus is right, blah ... blah .. blah is a battle between the United States and the Russian Federation without nuclear weapons.

[From Samara]

Something pulls you on nuclear weapons? The meaning is then lost in these cruisers ... This is for everyone

[NEXUS]

Quote: From Samara

Something pulls you on nuclear weapons? The meaning is then lost in these cruisers ... This is for everyone

But what is the meaning of 11 aircraft carriers? Bear good and bright, called American democracy?

[From Samara]

I don’t remember exactly Ulyanovsk and Kirov, but what was planned to create the AUG is for sure, these ships were built on this basis ...

[amba balamut 77]

There was infa that the Eagles and the Anchars are separate, UG should have been beaten up. With the participation of the Atlanteans, the Brave and Buzzards.

[azesm]

Quote: Pirogov

For 20 years, are ships recovering too fast? Isn't it easier to build corvettes and arm them well?

in the country of thieves and saw cutters, endless repairs by pocket offices are much more profitable for thieves and saw cutters
Do you think they have something to do with the country's defense? against who?
against the NATO countries in which their families live and their children study, are their villas standing and their money stored?
Well, why laugh?
out of our minister Lavrov, who in theory should fight with our sworn enemy of the United States, daughter - a US citizen
what to talk about?

[Pirogov]

You are unfortunately right! These daughters and sons of the pitchfork, etc. are the main trouble.

[dchegrinec]

We with our "oldies" still give someone ave .. heat! After all, the main thing is there is an excellent delivery vehicle! And our smart shells will do the work!

[lopvlad]

Currently, the work carried out by Sevmash, fit into the timeline

This ship was needed already yesterday. Work needs to be done ahead of schedule.

[VALERIK_097]

Question: Do you have any relation whatsoever to the Fleet?

[colonel manuch]

Dear "Eagles" - just as the Russian fleet needs you! In short, more goods, good and different!

[mamont5]

Quote: Vladimir

Quote: saturn.mmm

What is wrong with 22350?

But what if he was launched into the water in 2006, and now 2015? Isn’t there a lot of tons for XR in 4.5?
Threat.
Oh yes. The deadlines for entering the invoice are transferred to 2016. Without mentioning the month, date.

I advise you to read it again. Don't you think THIS is about you? ..
http://topwar.ru/88035-znakomtes-russkoyazychnyy-agent-gosdepa.html