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The second power unit is shut down at Leningrad NPP

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The press service of the Leningrad Nuclear Power Plant reports that today (December 18) at 13: 50 Moscow time, the second power unit was shut down due to the formation of steam in one of the rooms of the turbine shop. According to the staff of the power plant, the nature of the steam leak is insignificant, and the necessary work has been carried out to localize it.


From the message press service of the power facility:
December 18 at 13.50 Moscow time, power unit No. XXUMX of the Leningrad NPP was stopped by personnel in accordance with the current instructions and regulations due to soaring in one of the premises of the turbine workshop - in the deaerator reduction unit. Hover significantly decreased after stopping the reactor. In addition, at present, the premises with a total area of ​​up to 2 square. m completely isolated. The nature of the steam leak is insignificant, its localization is going on (at the time of the material release - the location is complete - note “VO”).

The radiation situation at the Leningrad NPP and the industrial site has not changed and remains within the natural background values.


The second power unit is shut down at Leningrad NPP


The cause of the accident was a steam engine crack in the turbine hall.

Despite statements by the Leningrad NPP employees that the background radiation is normal, St. Petersburg environmentalists claim that there was a radioactive release. At the same time, the statements of ecologists, which are given by the St. Petersburg portal "Fontanka", look somewhat inconsistent. A representative of the Green World organization, Oleg Bodrov, arguing that the release is radioactive, at the same time says that measurements of the background radiation near the NPP show normal values. From the statement of Oleg Bodrov:
The station is single-circuit, which means that all the vapor on it is radioactive. Another thing is that the scale of pollution is unknown. At the moment, it is known that the power unit has been stopped, and the employees have been sent home. Urban radioactive environment sensors show a normal background, up to X-NUMX micro-X-rays per hour.


Apparently, realizing that the message looks somewhat illogical, they decided in ecological organizations to refer to the statements of the Hydrometeorological Center, in which it was said that the wind in the Leningrad Region was of the west and north-west directions. Such statements were forced to alter the services of Estonia and Finland, which also did not detect any excess of the radiation background levels.

From the press service of the LNPP:
Currently, at the Leningrad NPP, 1,3,4 power units are in operation, which carry a load of 3000 mW. The radiation background in the vicinity of the station does not exceed the natural background values.
Photos used:
http://www.lennpp.rosenergoatom.ru
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  1. Egor123
    Egor123 18 December 2015 18: 12 New
    +5
    Let's hope that everything will be in order and there will be no second Chernobyl.
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 18 December 2015 18: 32 New
      91
      Every year different fucking things are riveted to our St. Petersburg nuclear power plant! Tired already, by God! Throw shnyaga, and then howl through the bushes: Everyone drink iodine in glasses! Zadolbali! am
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 18 December 2015 18: 45 New
        21
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Everyone drink iodine in glasses! Zadolbali!

        And Brom, just in case! I’ll come home - I panic a little more, I wrap myself in a sheet and crawl towards Luga ....
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 18 December 2015 18: 49 New
          10
          But are there single-circuit nuclear plants. Is it wildness ?!
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 18 December 2015 19: 05 New
            +7
            There are. Just RBMK - single-circuit.
            Bypass - this is VVER.
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 18 December 2015 19: 33 New
              +5
              They are all bypass !!! Learn mat.chast !!!
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                1. NDR-791
                  NDR-791 18 December 2015 20: 00 New
                  +9
                  The radioactive water of the first circuit is closed to the barbator-coolers, and the SECOND circuit (the one that enters precisely the turbines) goes through the cooling pond. Therefore, it rarely freezes in winter, and the fish in it are bred healthy. It is the POND because there is always the possibility of a breakthrough of the primary circuit and it is planned to cut off that pond from external water supply.
                  1. Jozhkin Cat
                    Jozhkin Cat 18 December 2015 20: 05 New
                    17
                    The RBMK reactor operates according to a single-loop circuit. The circulation of the coolant is carried out in the multiple forced circulation circuit (KMPTs). In the active zone, the water cooling the fuel rods partially evaporates and the resulting steam-water mixture enters the separator drums. In the drum separators, steam is separated, which enters the turbine unit. The remaining water is mixed with feed water and is fed to the reactor core using the main circulation pumps (MCP). The separated saturated steam (temperature ~ 284 ° C) at a pressure of 70–65 kgf / cm2 is supplied to two turbogenerators with an electric capacity of 500 MW each. The spent steam condenses, after which, after passing through regenerative heaters and a deaerator, it is fed through feed pumps (PEN) to the KMPTs.
                    RBMK-1000 reactors are installed at the Leningrad NPP, Kursk NPP, Chernobyl NPP, Smolensk NPP.
                    1. NDR-791
                      NDR-791 18 December 2015 20: 41 New
                      +4
                      Я, конечно, может и не всё понимаю, но тогда вопрос??? Как производится обслуживание самой турбины? вот простое, регламентное? Или замена тех же лопаток? Представьте как всё это "светится"!!! если это на одном контуре!!! В жизть не поверю, что АЭС-конструкция одноразовая до первой поломки!!!
                      1. Jozhkin Cat
                        Jozhkin Cat 18 December 2015 20: 57 New
                        +1
                        the change of the fuel rod is done by the robot. the rest xs. probably before disassembling, certain areas are washed with deactivators and the uncles in suits are changing everything with handles.
                      2. NDR-791
                        NDR-791 18 December 2015 21: 20 New
                        +5
                        Да про ТВЭЛ я в курсе!!! Работавши в Томске в НИИ ЯФ, правда МНСом в лаборатории физики (давно было), общие моменты знаю, но вот никогда не слышал что бы на РБМК работы производились смертниками. Между прочим вот та "полосатая труба" которая торчит над каждым блоком выплёвывала изначально 40 кюри(даже в Чернобыле). Как раз после него и на ЛАЭС поставили другие фильтры, ну а потом я уволился и переехал из Томска. Так что реалий сегодняших не знаю, но знаю точно - при умном использовании реактор безопасен в пределах гарантийного срока(правда срок уже искусственно завышен), но это уже другая история...
                    2. Soviet Union
                      Soviet Union 18 December 2015 21: 24 New
                      +3
                      how ... silently, I'll tell you a secret, I also walked around the reactor with my legs smile
                    3. T-73
                      T-73 19 December 2015 00: 45 New
                      +1
                      Цитата: Soviet Union
                      I'll tell you a secret, I also walked around the reactor with my legs

                      По центральному залу, где "чисто" или может в колодце бассейна перегрузки, по крышке. Тут есть разница)
                  2. AVElder
                    AVElder 18 December 2015 23: 39 New
                    +7
                    Good evening.
                    Отвечаю, РБМК действительно одноконтурный или, как бывает говорят, полутораконтурный. Только я не пойму. Почему все считают, что если вода прошла через реактор, то она становится радиоактивной??? Это великое заблуждение. Вода не бывает радиоактивной никогда. Вода может содержать в себе радиоактивные элементы, если они туда каким то образом попали, тогда да, вода начинает сильно фонить, но точнее сказать, опять таки, не сама по себе вода, а попавшие в неё примеси. Все топливные сборки во всех реакторах представляют из себя сложную конструкцию, но в общем можно сказать, что всё радиоактивное топливо и последующие продукты распада находятся в "таблетках", которые помещены в герметичные трубки из циркониевого сплава. Если все в норме и все целое, то герметичность не нарушается и радиоактивные элементы в воду не попадают, соответственно вода не может становиться радиоактивной после прохождения через реактор (еще раз - речь о неповрежденном реакторе).
              2. 2s1122
                2s1122 18 December 2015 21: 08 New
                +2
                Apparently, as I understand it, a fistula formed in the steam supply system from the superheater to the turbine. And the stop was due to the high temperature and pressure of the outgoing steam in the workshop, 40sq.m to be filled with steam in a matter of minutes. And there is some kind of pollution emission to be there unnecessarily, the only thing that is undesirable is an emergency with workers, there may be burns.
              3. Soviet Union
                Soviet Union 18 December 2015 21: 19 New
                +1
                It's funny to read the comments of people who do not understand anything about it. yes
                1. 2s1122
                  2s1122 18 December 2015 21: 24 New
                  +3
                  Well, why they don’t understand, for example, in my specialty: locksmiths for repair of heating equipment at the thermal power station. And the steam supply system for the turbine is the same everywhere. And when the pressure in the system is lost, the power unit will be switched to idle mode.
                2. goblin xnumx
                  goblin xnumx 18 December 2015 22: 18 New
                  0
                  I don’t understand, is there a turbine hall with an area of ​​40 sq m? - Is there a typo here? - I suppose a fistula on a sharp steam pipeline? and the pipe goes through the turbine compartment?
                  1. 2s1122
                    2s1122 19 December 2015 12: 32 New
                    0
                    Нет,просто в заметке мелькнуло"помещение в 40кв.м"вот я и упомянул.
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              5. Oleg14774
                Oleg14774 19 December 2015 05: 17 New
                0
                Quote: NDR-791
                Radioactive water of the first circuit is closed to barbators

                In my opinion, the first circuit is not water!
            2. Andrey NM
              Andrey NM 18 December 2015 20: 03 New
              +9
              The man, probably, counted the cooling circuit for the second.
              Упрощенно. На РБМК пар из "самовара" сразу на турбину идет. На водоводяных и ЖМТ-реакторах нагретый теплоноситель идет в теплообменник, там тепло передается слледующему контуру, водичка которого идет на форсунки, там уже на лопатки турбины в виде пара, а потом уже в "конденсатор" и насосом снова в теплообменник. "Конденсатор" (там, где пар конденсируется в воду) охлаждается контуром охлаждения. Чтобы водичка не кипела раньше времени, в контурах поддерживается высокое давление.
          2. lescha.kazakov
            lescha.kazakov 18 December 2015 20: 32 New
            0
            RBMK blocks are single-circuit.
          3. anfil
            anfil 18 December 2015 21: 13 New
            +4
            Quote: NDR-791
            They are all bypass !!! Learn mat.chast !!!


            RMBC-1000

          4. Soviet Union
            Soviet Union 18 December 2015 21: 21 New
            0
            technological schemes to help you wink
          5. Dimy4
            Dimy4 18 December 2015 21: 32 New
            +2
            They are all bypass !!! Learn mat.chast !!!

            RBMK is a channel-type high-power reactor, the working fluid, passing through the reactor core, performs work in the turbine. Dry saturated steam is non-radioactive, therefore such reactors are possible. VVER - water-water power reactor. (The general course of power plants for 23 years has passed; I still remember that I was drilled well.)
          6. T-73
            T-73 19 December 2015 00: 38 New
            +2
            Not all. RBMK boiling type reactors do not apply to them.
            Quote: NDR-791
            But are there single-circuit nuclear plants. Is it wildness ?!

            Not wildness, there are. And they work fine. Why do they work? Power higher issue. This is somewhat smoothed out now, but it was built when there was not enough station with 1 units with VVER-1000 for one NPP unit with 2 RBMK-440 reactor. Norms are very cruel to our safety. I think everything is normal, but environmentalists ... Yelling does not work.
            1. Andrey NM
              Andrey NM 19 December 2015 07: 00 New
              +2
              Я не механик, но как любому офицеру АПЛ, сдающему зачеты на дежурного по кораблю, вахтенного офицера и самостоятельное управление кораблем, пришлось сдавать зачеты по устройству и работе "самовара". И у меня все время вопрос крутится... Как теплоноситель используется бидистиллят (вода двойной перегонки), все везде герметично, давление держится, уровень радиации никакой, на улице под солнцем часто бывает выше (если крышку непосредственно не обнимать). Куда теплоноситель уходит? Почему постоянно нужно делать подпитку? Конечно, совсем по чуть-чуть, но все же. Дистиллированная вода по своим свойствам в идеальных условиях не является проводником тока, "не накапливает" радиацию и т.д., но в процессе работы все равно в воду попадают ничтожные частички продуктов работы реактора, вот они и являются радиоактивными. Это могут быть различные соли и т.д.
              И как не глуши реактор, из-за этих частичек реакция все равно продолжаетя, водичка медленно, но нагревается, и реактор нужно постоянно охлаждать, особенно после длительной работы на режимах. Просто вспоминаю, дежурный по ГЭУ вечером "остудит" аппарат до определенной температуры, утром нужно снова охлаждать...
              Dear experts, if I didn’t exactly say something here, correct it.
        2. lescha.kazakov
          lescha.kazakov 18 December 2015 20: 30 New
          +2
          Yes, you are absolutly right. At the Kalinin NPP, double-circuit units.
        3. Serhio
          Serhio 18 December 2015 20: 51 New
          +2
          Steam in a steam line in a turbine room cannot be radioactive.
          1. Soviet Union
            Soviet Union 18 December 2015 21: 40 New
            0
            Why do you think so? On VVER, yes, it cannot, apart from RBMK ...
        4. n.kolesnichenko
          n.kolesnichenko 19 December 2015 00: 14 New
          +1
          But there are 2 loops on the loop !!!
      2. archi.sailor
        archi.sailor 18 December 2015 22: 10 New
        +2
        It happens, for example, Fukushima
      3. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 19 December 2015 05: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Mahmut
        But are there single-circuit nuclear plants.

        in my opinion no. Most likely there is a VVER-1000 and this is a reliable reactor
    2. matross
      matross 18 December 2015 18: 55 New
      13
      Quote: lelikas
      And Brom, just in case!

      Specialists dry red recommend! wink I have already started the proactive deactivation of the body drinks
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 18 December 2015 18: 58 New
        +6
        VODKA? I’ll go too just in case I’ll be warned!drinksotherwise it will reach us!
        1. raketnik
          raketnik 18 December 2015 19: 08 New
          12
          here tezh pancake and how are we in barnaul without active deactivation ???? drinks right now I’ll stick a glass
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 18 December 2015 19: 25 New
            +5
            Only purely for the prevention of infection! For one! drinks
          2. Dym71
            Dym71 18 December 2015 19: 52 New
            +7
            Quote: raketnik
            here tezh pancake and how are we in barnaul without active deactivation ???? right now I’ll stick a glass


            Well, since they’ve taken care of Barnaul, Tula will support cognac exclusively out of solidarity with Leningraders! drinks
          3. F751
            F751 18 December 2015 20: 59 New
            +4
            And I used a beer, only then I began to read (Will it help? From Barnaul too
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 18 December 2015 21: 44 New
              +3
              Quote: F751
              And I used a beer, only then I began to read (Will it help? From Barnaul too


              Я в этой теме "плаваю" недавно и с коньячком winked , благо на сайте есть специалисты, как "Dimy4", которые пишут так:
              the working fluid, passing the reactor core, performs work in the turbine. Dry saturated steam is non-radioactive, therefore such reactors are possible.


              And therefore! Drink beer in moderation and make sure that the turbine does not go into the spacing! yes
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 18 December 2015 20: 19 New
        +7
        Quote: matRoss
        I have already started the proactive deactivation of the body

        Eh, you just give a reason to deactivate.
      3. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM 19 December 2015 07: 15 New
        +2
        Сухое вино для пищеварения, а от радиации лучше спиртик или водовки принять. Специально интересовался. На лодках в море дают 50 граммов вина ежесуточно. Сейчас не знаю, а тогда это была Норма N6, по ней в море в рацион добавлялся шоколад, балыковые, вобла и еще много чего. В желудке есть бактерии, которые поддерживают пищеварение. В силу определенных причин они могут "сдохнуть", а вино замечательно их поддерживает. Слушайте, а вобла какая была консервированная! Нигде больше такой не встречал.
    3. Luga
      Luga 18 December 2015 19: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: lelikas
      I’ll come home - I panic a little more, I wrap myself in a sheet and crawl towards Luga ....


      Two questions:
      1. And why in the direction of Luga at once?
      2. When to expect?

      laughing
  2. Haettenschweiler
    Haettenschweiler 18 December 2015 18: 53 New
    19
    Quote: Major Yurik
    Every year different fucking things are riveted to our St. Petersburg nuclear power plant!


    - Leningrad. Petersburg has nothing to do with it - neither old, royal, nor new. LNPP is the achievement of the selfless labor of the Communists.

    Quote: Major Yurik
    They will throw a shnyaga, and then howl through the bushes:


    - Потому что все помнят украинскую АЭС, немецкую АЭС... и никому бы не хотелось оказаться в "новой Припяти". Другое дело, что этот инцидент стал достоянием общественности - серьёзная ошибка. Отличный повод для умных подлецов сгоношить тупых паникёров и под шумок урвать что-нибудь этакое, или сломать что-то мешающееся.
  3. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 18 December 2015 19: 06 New
    +8
    Quote: Major Yurik
    Every year different fucking things are riveted to our St. Petersburg nuclear power plant!

  4. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 18 December 2015 19: 19 New
    +3
    It is necessary to drink a 40% solution of ethanol in water. Helps from radiation.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 18 December 2015 19: 43 New
      12
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      It is necessary to drink a 40% solution of ethanol in water. Helps from radiation.

      You well! And knowing how the bear is a loafer, I already got tired of tying up water, how to get drunk and let's clink on this three-string crap ...... in short, I don’t know what to do with it. And the motive is the same, poplar-poplar! Squirrel to see guests ran.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 18 December 2015 20: 00 New
        +8
        Quote: Strezhevchanin
        And I have a bear loafer, I was already sick of vodar tyrit how to get drunk and let's clink on this three-string crap ...... in short, I don’t know what to do with it.


        How you do not know what to do ... belay
        The answer is on the surface bully
        If you can’t stop drinking, you must head it! drinks
    2. Alexanast
      Alexanast 18 December 2015 20: 40 New
      10
      No, two drops of water per glass of vodka - just right drinks
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 18 December 2015 22: 54 New
        +2
        ... and drink until the water runs out. lol
    3. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 19 December 2015 02: 44 New
      0
      misconception does not help
  5. dauria
    dauria 18 December 2015 19: 31 New
    +6
    Every year, various fucking things are riveted at our St. Petersburg nuclear power plant! They will throw a shnyaga, and then howl through the bushes ...


    Better silently, as in Chernobyl, the bosses of their households will take out? Okay, this is a small thing, anyway, this is an accident with radioactive contamination, albeit very small, which by and large did not get anywhere.

    The most serious incidents at RBMK reactors:

    1975 - rupture of one channel at the first block of Leningrad NPP
    1982 - rupture of one channel on the first block of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant
    1986 - accident with a massive rupture of channels at the fourth block of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant
    1991 - a fire in the engine room of the second Chernobyl NPP unit - the accident is primarily associated with an emergency situation at the turbogenerator
    1992 - rupture of one channel at the third block of Leningrad NPP
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 18 December 2015 20: 16 New
      +6
      Well, firstly, now there are no emissions, and secondly, the Chernobyl NPP seemed to be specially blown up. If it’s primitive, the situation developed as follows: exercises were held to check the operability of the station’s defense mechanisms. They exceeded power, the protection worked, turned it off manually, another increase - the protection went out again, turned off again, and so on to the last turn. When he passed out, the reactor was offended.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 December 2015 20: 31 New
        +1
        The following happened there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3v3Z7iuNx0
    2. T-73
      T-73 19 December 2015 01: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: dauria
      whatever you say, this is an accident with radioactive contamination, albeit very small, which by and large did not get anywhere.

      Ну свищ давили, в чём проблема? Или авария проектная? Нет? Значит ничего страшного. Даже не "событие" скорее всего. СИЗы сжечь в УС ТРО (если есть у вас, а не быть не может) и дальше работают. Никто домочадцев не вывезет и не будет стараться этого делать. Просто зоны возможного загрязнения вокруг кордонами обставят - и делов. Мониторинг радиационной обстановки постоянный.
  6. tol100v
    tol100v 18 December 2015 19: 34 New
    +5
    Quote: Major Yurik
    Zadolbali!

    Особенно "зеленые", грантоеды "зеленых" бумажек!
  7. Koshak
    Koshak 18 December 2015 20: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: Major Yurik
    Every year different fucking things are riveted to our St. Petersburg nuclear power plant! Tired already, by God! Throw shnyaga, and then howl through the bushes: Everyone drink iodine in glasses! Zadolbali! am

    How did Vysotsky sing:
    "Истопник сказал - "Столичная" очень хороша от стронция"
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/BuRHVuJoIoo?rel=0&autoplay=1&start=1
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 19 December 2015 08: 06 New
      0
      This is not Vysotsky, this is Galich.
  8. Soviet Union
    Soviet Union 18 December 2015 21: 17 New
    +2
    She is not Petersburg - she is Leningrad am
  9. ARS56
    ARS56 18 December 2015 21: 37 New
    +2
    "Фонтанка" - рупор госдепа - питерский аналог "Дождя".
    1. mehanik27
      mehanik27 18 December 2015 22: 02 New
      +3
      Ну уж много чести то для "Фонтанки" оказали. lol The usual yellow boulevard fiction. Which has switched to the format of Internet publications. They stupidly copy any news from any network sources. They have often been embarrassed because of this.
  10. PKTRL
    PKTRL 18 December 2015 22: 10 New
    0
    Major Yurik (2) :
    Every year different fucking things are riveted to our St. Petersburg nuclear power plant! Tired already, by God! Throw shnyaga, and then howl through the bushes: Everyone drink iodine in glasses! Zadolbali!
    Let them drink ..! yes Glasses and not only iodine .., the main thing is that any echomaceous force would not have created a panic! A few years ago, in the Sosnovoborsk NPP, there was supposedly an explosion, as in the Chernobyl .. fool И.., опять кто-то клонирует подобную "новость".. stop
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  12. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 18 December 2015 22: 39 New
    +3
    Да,экологи,несомненно,товарищи нужные и полезные,но иногда они просто гонят волну паники,пусть и из лучших побуждений. Дескать,лучше переб(з)деть...Ну,да нам уже не привыкать,что с ЛАЭС нашей,что с ежедневными эвакуациями в торговых центрах,на вокзалах и станциях метро. Что же,время такое,хотя все тревоги и ложные. Получаются своеобразные учения по гражданской обороне. Улыбнуло,что "соседи" измену словили лю-у-у-тую,жу-у-у-ткую...
  • Wiruz
    Wiruz 18 December 2015 18: 46 New
    +7
    Let's hope that everything will be in order and there will be no second Chernobyl.

    Spit! Here, in general, parallels cannot be drawn. Just somewhere fistula at the turbinists. hi
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 18 December 2015 18: 55 New
      10
      Strange message .... hi The question is why all this was posted on the site ..?
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 18 December 2015 19: 33 New
        13
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Strange message .... hi The question is why all this was posted on the site ..?

        Yes figs Mikhalych knows, probably evening, Friday you can carry out the disinfection of the body. Well, for a peaceful atom! drinks
        1. Soviet Union
          Soviet Union 18 December 2015 21: 43 New
          +2
          So that the atom was always peaceful drinks
      2. Koshak
        Koshak 18 December 2015 20: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Strange message .... hi The question is why all this was posted on the site ..?

        Дабы "цензор" порадовать.
      3. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 18 December 2015 20: 45 New
        0
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        The question is why all this was posted on the site ..?
        ..

        А затем, чтобы взбаламутить своих и наших заклятых прибалтийских соседей. Глядишь, и что-нибудь обломится "зелеными".
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    2. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 18 December 2015 19: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Wiruz
      Let's hope that everything will be in order and there will be no second Chernobyl.

      Spit! Here, in general, parallels cannot be drawn. Just somewhere fistula at the turbinists. hi

      Yes, I think the identity of the turbine owners is whistling somewhere, such as the exhaust burns out, well, or the oil seal leaked smile
  • milann
    milann 18 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +3
    В военное время паникёров к "стенке" ставили. И по таким Бодровым "стенка" давно скучает
  • Streich
    Streich 18 December 2015 19: 17 New
    +7
    The second Chernobyl is possible only with those idiots (or not idiots at all) who themselves organized this Chernobyl. There was completely disabled reactor protection !!!!! It’s the same thing that you try to close the two bare ends, knowing that 380v is connected.
    1. vanya
      vanya 18 December 2015 19: 34 New
      -9
      stop repeating nonsense; The Chernobyl accident occurred due to the imperfection of the reactor itself, and the operators were blamed as the reactor designer was the head of the minatom
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 18 December 2015 20: 01 New
        13
        Quote: vanya
        stop repeating nonsense; The Chernobyl accident occurred due to the imperfection of the reactor itself, and the operators were blamed as the reactor designer was the head of the minatom

        Well, what are we going to raise criminal cases, or so agree?
        The accident occurred due to the fault of the shift supervisor and the operator brigade that brought the reactor into non-standard mode, when the emergency protection was triggered, it was ordered to remove it from Moscow. the change understood its mistakes, the emergency lowering of the rods led to an instantaneous jump in energy (this is the protection, when lowering the rods there is an instantaneous jump in temperature in the reactor zone, which gradually turns into a decay of the reaction) in addition to p zrushivshimsya fuel cells lowering rods caused the destruction of the reactor vessel.
        In this case, the design flaw can be called the ability to disable protection and more!
        And so look at the tech, give the fool a can of condensed milk and he will find a way to blow it up.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 18 December 2015 20: 33 New
          0
          There was so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3v3Z7iuNx0
      2. sniper
        sniper 18 December 2015 20: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: vanya
        ; The Chernobyl accident occurred due to the imperfection of the reactor itself,

        Very controversial statement ... RBMK-1000 reactors were used at Chernobyl
        uranium-graphite (RBMK-1000). The numerous advantages of the RBMK-1000 reactor ultimately resolved the dispute in his favor, since even then huge experience had been accumulated, there was a ready-made production base and a proven technology for the production of uranium-graphite reactors. In addition, a nuclear power plant at RBMK reactors could have almost unlimited power within one unit, and spent nuclear fuel could be replaced without shutting down the reactor. In all respects, besides safety, the use of RBMK-type reactors seemed more attractive from an economic point of view.
        The disadvantages of uranium-graphite reactors include greater complexity in operation, increased requirements for maintenance personnel, the need for strict adherence to safe operation rules.
      3. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 18 December 2015 21: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: vanya
        stop repeating nonsense; The Chernobyl accident occurred due to the imperfection of the reactor itself, and the operators were blamed as the reactor designer was the head of the minatom


        Несовершенство можно найти в "самом совершенном" объекте. Руководства (инструкции) по эксплуатации и обслуживанию для того и прилагаются, чтобы обеспечить надежную и безопасную работу объекта.
  • bornikrub
    bornikrub 18 December 2015 19: 21 New
    +1
    And what is so military about this news?
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 18 December 2015 19: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: bornikrub
      And what is so military about this news?

      Ну наверно так ..."Россия(Путин) не может контролировать свои атомные проекты...И пора их взять под контроль "западной демократии" ..)))В 90-х такое помню... hi
    2. 2s1122
      2s1122 18 December 2015 21: 19 New
      +3
      Yes, so boredom, they decided on 100 g before bedtime and then the news well, they shoved the article. drinks
    3. mehanik27
      mehanik27 18 December 2015 21: 59 New
      0
      and hell knows))) Well, maybe something like military personnel of military unit 3705 of the regiment for the protection and defense of Leningrad NPP and NITI got a little tense due to the bustle of the nuclear plant on-duty shift
      1. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 18 December 2015 22: 27 New
        0
        yeah, it’s a little tense, for sure, one thing is being worked out and more or less familiar and another thing is vanity similar to an accident, Chernobyl is still remembered, so they just need to remove stress after the change
        1. mehanik27
          mehanik27 19 December 2015 00: 20 New
          +1
          They have worked out accident situations as well. Everything is serious there.
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  • GRAY
    GRAY 18 December 2015 23: 31 New
    +4
    Quote: Egor123
    Let's hope that everything will be in order and there will be no second Chernobyl.

    Will not be. Water is not radioactive, as it consists of hydrogen and oxygen atoms.
    There is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen (tritium), with a half-life of 12,32 years. Radioactive oxygen isotopes are also known: from 12O to 24O. All radioactive oxygen isotopes have a short half-life, and 12O decays in 5,8 × 10−22 seconds. In a nuclear power reactor, tritium and radioactive oxygen isotopes are not formed. When they talk about radioactive contamination of water, they mean that it contains dissolved radioactive isotopes of other elements.
    - Is the reactor intact?
    - Int.
    There was no direct contact of water with fuel (fuel elements have a shell), which means that everything is normal.
  • svp67
    svp67 18 December 2015 18: 23 New
    +4
    Yes, I wish you success and really hope for the experience and skill of our nuclear experts.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 18 December 2015 18: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      I really hope for the experience and skill of our specialists

      you and Beloyarochka are at our side! Let's hope for our specialists Seryoga ... hi
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 18 December 2015 20: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        you and Beloyarochka are at our side! Let's hope for our specialists Seryoga ...


        - Мой товарищ работает там инженером. Он отличный человек и грамотный специалист. БАЭС в надёжных руках, товарищи, спите спокойно. А вот за "Маяк" не поручусь... были, знаете ли, инциденты...
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    1. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 18 December 2015 18: 29 New
      12
      A single-circuit scheme with a boiling reactor and a graphite moderator of the RBMK-1000 type was applied at the Leningrad NPP. The reactor operates in a unit with two K-500-65 / 3000 condensing turbines and two 500 MW generators. A boiling reactor is a steam generator and thereby determines the possibility of using a single-circuit circuit. The initial parameters of saturated steam in front of the turbine are: temperature 284 ° С, vapor pressure 7,0 MPa. The single-circuit scheme is relatively simple, but radioactivity extends to all elements of the unit, which complicates biological protection
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 18 December 2015 23: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Yozhkin Cat
        but radioactivity extends to all elements of the block

        Water is not a block element, but a coolant.
        It becomes radioactive only when the shells of the fuel elements are damaged.
  • dr.star75
    dr.star75 18 December 2015 18: 25 New
    +4
    Terrorist attack? Who? Ukrainians? Turks? Daish? No, just a pipe cracked? Aaaaaa well this is not interesting. Will we continue to discuss?
  • FINN74
    FINN74 18 December 2015 18: 27 New
    +3
    Such statements made Estonia and Finland services alarmed
    It’s not iron
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 18 December 2015 18: 28 New
    0
    Tubes rotted. Has there been a replacement? It looks like you have a lot to change.
    1. mehanik27
      mehanik27 18 December 2015 18: 34 New
      +9
      To replace Leningrad NPP-2, it is under construction, after the launch of its first two units they will begin to decommission 1 and 2 units of LNPP-1
    2. dr.star75
      dr.star75 18 December 2015 18: 36 New
      12
      There, on each piece of iron there is a seal: it is valid until ..., and then a replacement. And a bunch of signatures, who is responsible for what, and who is responsible for whom, and everyone knows what it will be. An emergency has occurred. The protection worked, there is no need to evacuate the europeans (well, due to radiation), and then they will sort it out, or the pipes are rotten, or the file is sharp.
    3. user1212
      user1212 18 December 2015 19: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: dchegrinec
      Tubes rotted. Has there been a replacement? It looks like you have a lot to change.

      Have you specialized in diagnosing rectors according to media reports? lol
      Какие "таланты" пропадают....
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 19 December 2015 00: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: user1212
        Какие "таланты" пропадают....

        Impressed too. lol

        Tube garbage, the main gasket of the head of the block on time to change. laughing
    4. kapitan92
      kapitan92 18 December 2015 19: 41 New
      +4
      Проблемы на Хмельницкой АЭС, проблемы на Запорожской АЭС-достали этими хохлами! Пускай сами разбираются. " В чужом глазу соринку видим, в своем бревно не замечаем".
      Let's deal with our stations! We’ve got our own problems! A mess in Russia is a sea, and we are all looking for someone else to help and someone else’s problems to solve!
    5. Koshak
      Koshak 18 December 2015 20: 34 New
      0
      Quote: dchegrinec
      Tubes rotted. Has there been a replacement? It looks like you have a lot to change.

      And then there, in your opinion, some woodpeckers manage the station.
  • Black
    Black 18 December 2015 18: 30 New
    0
    Да "одноконтурная " станция порадовала....Если это "эколог" слепил, то нужно бы посмотреть сколько у него контуров....
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 18 December 2015 19: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Chen
      Да "одноконтурная " станция порадовала...

      And when did the second circuit appear at RBMK LNPP?

      The dual-loop reactors at the LNPP will be when the LNPP-2 is put into operation.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 December 2015 18: 34 New
    +7
    Времени прошло много, с момента постройки, может, что и треснуло. Но не в реакторе. И сказки про одноконтурный системы в "Сосновом Бору" пусть не рассказывают. Нормальная станция, и персонал там замечательный.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 18 December 2015 18: 37 New
      -2
      The turbine gave a leak. This is the second circuit.
      1. dauria
        dauria 18 December 2015 19: 00 New
        +4
        The turbine gave a leak. This is the second circuit.


        There really is no second circuit, steam on a turbine from directly from the reactor. Another couple
        not there.
  • Andrey77
    Andrey77 18 December 2015 18: 36 New
    +2
    Emission from GTZA. Nothing wrong.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 18 December 2015 18: 50 New
      +4
      Tubes rotted. Has there been a replacement? It looks like you have a lot to change.

      At our CHPP, a wooden chopper is generally hammered into the turbine laughing Fortunately, in the last steps, where there is almost no excess pressure laughing
      1. Jozhkin Cat
        Jozhkin Cat 18 December 2015 19: 27 New
        16
        laughing it happens
        1. Alex_on
          Alex_on 21 December 2015 04: 44 New
          0
          The electrician's posters ran out)))))
  • Mikado
    Mikado 18 December 2015 18: 36 New
    +1
    "Зеленый мир" - прям "Грин Пис" по-нашенски. Наслышан про них от заказчиков. Рассказывали, например, начинают люди котлован копать в области, эти товарищи тут как тут - "А куда вы грунт вывозите? А предъявите документы, типа, что грунт неопасный". Работать мешают, короче. Пиарятся, "любители матушки-природы"..
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 18 December 2015 18: 39 New
      +2
      Give them a reason.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 18 December 2015 19: 03 New
        +1
        You don’t believe hto their sponsor! Yes, Yes! they are! wink
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 18 December 2015 20: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: dr.star75
          You don’t believe hto their sponsor! Yes, Yes! they are! wink

          I just told how they told me. What really hindered the work. In my memory, this story with requirements about the ground was in September not-say-in what region of the LO .. From the point of view of the law, they are, in fact, who, Rospotrebnadzor, Rosprirodnadzor? What's the dog thing? Do not like it - write a complaint to the environmental prosecutor’s office or Rospotrebnadzor. And there the customer ran confirmation of the soil to do that, which is harmless. In general, it would be necessary for these nature lovers to give out life-giving cages, but this is not by law, and no one will do it.
          Равно как и "Хрюшам", в принципе.
          If you want to do ecology, do it. Under the law. And not a samopiar reminiscent of blackmail.

          On the other hand, I went to the site in Sosnovy Bor yesterday. It’s good that I went yesterday)) And not today. Purely, just in case))
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 18 December 2015 21: 03 New
            +1
            It is necessary to beat them with their own weapons: to find the instigation of the legislation of the Russian Federation and on this basis to write complaints to all authorities.
            1. Mikado
              Mikado 18 December 2015 21: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: dr.star75
              It is necessary to beat them with their own weapons: to find the instigation of the legislation of the Russian Federation and on this basis to write complaints to all authorities.

              It's easier to keep environmental documentation in order)) True, you have to pay for everything. First, research, then an environmental project, then coordination in the necessary structures, then maintain it in the right form, pay on time, and export on time.
              But here you will not say anything - you are doing something, you are spoiling mother nature (drains, waste, etc.) - please pay. And it is right.
              Медведев тут начудил в 13-м году, подписал постановление № 644 по Водоканалу. Короче, суть самой ситуации: изменения в требованиях и экологической документации, т.н. "декларации", в прошлом году все юрлица кинулись его исполнять, потратили кучу денег, оказалось - никаких штрафных ситуаций за неисполнение не предусмотрено. В этом году никто этим не занимался)) Что у нас еще не отменили, что Медведев ввел?)) Ждем-с, когда ЭТО отменят))
              Since the beginning of next year, we are waiting for changes in waste)) In short, forever waiting))
              My friend, I can talk about ecology for hours. Forgive the former captain, who became an ecologist))
              1. dr.star75
                dr.star75 18 December 2015 21: 51 New
                +3
                Well hello: do not rush to comply with the order of the boss, since an order can be canceled that cancels the previous order! Everything is simple: the bourgeoisie are pressing us, and we are not bending, but are adapting to the changing market conditions. And we are waiting for OURS to come to power! The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!
                1. Mikado
                  Mikado 18 December 2015 22: 28 New
                  0
                  As for the environment - NADO. Otherwise, wait for the environmental prosecutor's office. But they are not joking, not at all))
                  Просто небольшой бардак - есть. Я уважаю Онищенко за то, что он всегда был нашим главным орудием ("плохо себя ведете, например, Грузия или молдаване - мы в вашей минералке несоответствие найдем", перевожу).
                  But some points (exclusively inside the ecology and the work of environmental structures and laboratories) of his decisions are really controversial, and very hinder the work. This could be solved with a stroke of the pen, he did not.
                  Maybe I won’t write a lecture about the microclimate and the definition of white spirit in the air?)) And even then we’re sitting on our brains, breaking all the laboratories))
          2. dr.star75
            dr.star75 18 December 2015 21: 03 New
            0
            It is necessary to beat them with their own weapons: to find the instigation of the legislation of the Russian Federation and on this basis to write complaints to all authorities.
  • UVB
    UVB 18 December 2015 18: 40 New
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    I apologize for being off topic, I just wanted to share the news. In Lugansk today opened a monument to I.V. Stalin: http://lug-info.com/news/one/gosti-iz-rossii-i-obschestvennye-deyateli-lnr-otkry
    li-v-luganske-pamyatnik-stalinu-9242
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 18 December 2015 18: 41 New
      -9
      Why not to Putin?
      1. UVB
        UVB 18 December 2015 18: 49 New
        +6
        http://lug-info.com/news/one/gosti-iz-rossii-i-obschestvennye-deyateli-lnr-otkry
        li-v-luganske-pamyatnik-stalinu-9242
        During life, a monument? I have no doubt that there will be GDP, but it is desirable that in the distant future.
      2. vladfill
        vladfill 18 December 2015 19: 58 New
        +8
        Because I.V. Stalin.
    2. Axis
      Axis 18 December 2015 18: 45 New
      +8
      Though somewhere the monuments are not demolished, but put up ...
      1. Neogumanoyd
        Neogumanoyd 18 December 2015 18: 55 New
        -15
        Well, maybe the creative research of the sculptor can reach Lavrenty Pavlovich ...
        1. dr.star75
          dr.star75 18 December 2015 19: 17 New
          10
          Read the biography of L.P. Beria and yourself give an assessment of its activities. Don’t follow the gossip. By the way, the repression of 37 years, he did not START, but STOP!
          People's Commissar of the NKVD 34-36 - Berry - shot, 36-38 - Yezhov - shot. Beria since 1938.
        2. dr.star75
          dr.star75 18 December 2015 19: 17 New
          +2
          Read the biography of L.P. Beria and yourself give an assessment of its activities. Don’t follow the gossip. By the way, the repression of 37 years, he did not START, but STOP!
          People's Commissar of the NKVD 34-36 - Berry - shot, 36-38 - Yezhov - shot. Beria since 1938.
          1. T-73
            T-73 19 December 2015 00: 55 New
            +2
            We raised so much turbidity about .. and Beria, and Stalin, Kalinin, Lenin, that you wonder. All kinds of Suvorov dirtied their brains. Yes, and Solzhenitsyn ... Controversial work. From insult seems a lot to write. Only where is the truth now? Raising archives and writing new textbooks. While there is time. But who needs this truth? We’ll distribute the archives to the Baltic states easier, they need to see more
        3. Neogumanoyd
          Neogumanoyd 18 December 2015 19: 22 New
          +2
          So I don’t mind ... what are you minus ... let at least Yezhov, in the end it is up to them to decide who to put ... I myself have the portrait of Felix 1957 stored until better times ... It sounds paradoxical, but the setting monument to Stalin in our time testifies to REAL HEALTHY democracy in our society ... (Everyone has the right to their opinion) by the way in the USA, for the same reason, a group of citizens can calmly erect a monument to Stalin in theory ... although for some reason their democracy is all less democratic every day .. PS Democracy (dr. Greek . δημοκρατία - the "power of the people" was not invented by the Americans, they would not have guessed ..
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 18 December 2015 19: 50 New
            0
            I did not minus, although you deserve, in my opinion, you do not seem to distinguish between Beria and Yezhov, judging by your logic, Stalin and Hitler are the same tyrants. I advise you to carefully study the materials of that era in order to have your own idea of ​​those personalities. Regards, Mikhail hi !
          2. dr.star75
            dr.star75 18 December 2015 19: 50 New
            -2
            I did not minus, although you deserve, in my opinion, you do not seem to distinguish between Beria and Yezhov, judging by your logic, Stalin and Hitler are the same tyrants. I advise you to carefully study the materials of that era in order to have your own idea of ​​those personalities. Regards, Mikhail hi !
            1. Neogumanoyd
              Neogumanoyd 18 December 2015 20: 15 New
              +6
              Dear Michael hi , I don’t just have the right to evaluate the historical role of such personalities as Stalin or Hitler, who I am and who they are ... They determined world history for a thousand years ahead ... I didn’t have repressed in my family, so I have no reason to Stalin treats badly, and Hitler brought us a lot of evil, Stalin saved the country, Nikolai2 I don’t really like it though I don’t have to judge it ...
              1. dr.star75
                dr.star75 18 December 2015 20: 25 New
                +2
                Well, why? You have every right to evaluate (like me) not only the historical, but also the current activities of any ruler of the Russian Federation, USSR, Ingushetia and further back centuries. I suggest studying their contribution to the development of our country.
        4. Alex_on
          Alex_on 21 December 2015 04: 48 New
          0
          In Sarov, there may be a monument to L.P. Beria, they know better who to put .......
    3. novobranets
      novobranets 18 December 2015 19: 13 New
      +5
      Quote: UVB
      I'm sorry that off topic

      Can I then also off topic?
      MH-17: Australia says Russia is not to blame, evidence forged
      The recovered wreckage was first photographed and recorded in the Netherlands by DSB. Image-1 shows the first DSB photograph, with one visible hole. Image-2 shows that the second hole appeared in the new photo published by DSB. In his testimony, Donoghue said that ten months after the accident, and after Kiev officials handed over less than half of the fragments of the fuselage to the Dutch, the discovery was made that “some fragments are not consistent with the wreckage of the aircraft.” Http: //warfiles.ru/ show-103262-mn-17-avstraliya-govorit-chto
      -rossiya-n
      e-vinovata-uliki-poddelany.html
      Че это творится, граждане? Австралия, которая вопила о "русском Буке", теперь обвиняет официальный Куев в подлоге. Интересная статья, рекомендую. hi
    4. region58
      region58 18 December 2015 19: 36 New
      13
      Quote: UVB
      In Lugansk today opened a monument to I.V. Stalin

      Well, we have no worse:

      Passions of course boiled, but nothing worth it.
  • cuzmin.mihail2013
    cuzmin.mihail2013 18 December 2015 18: 40 New
    0
    Экологам только дай информацию, сразу "Шеф всё пропало, клиент уезжает...". По любому поводу готовы поднять шум, не вдаваясь в подробности, а главное не учитывая последствий. Хорошо ещё, что обошлось без паники.
    1. anfil
      anfil 18 December 2015 21: 06 New
      0
      Quote: cuzmin.mihail2013
      Экологам только дай информацию, сразу "Шеф всё пропало, клиент уезжает...". По любому поводу готовы поднять шум, не вдаваясь в подробности, а главное не учитывая последствий. Хорошо ещё, что обошлось без паники.


      Why raise the noise, look at the radiation background at each station online, now at Leningradskaya 0,2 MKZV / h within the limits of the link:http://www.rosenergoatom.ru/
  • Neogumanoyd
    Neogumanoyd 18 December 2015 18: 44 New
    +9
    Recently there was news about the shutdown of the first power unit of the Zaporizhzhya NPP ... (for a regular reason not related to an emergency). Guess or read what comments were here ... Because of all these events, I sometimes feel scared where we ourselves are embittered, gloating, writing all sorts of nonsense out of business without understanding ... (I'm not a fan of the new and old Ukrainian authorities and I'm interested in what is happening in neighboring Mongolia, although I live in Moscow) I'm sorry if I'm not right ...
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 18 December 2015 18: 52 New
      +4
      Если я правильно помню, останов блока Запорожской АЭС был вызван "проблемами" с реактором, кои, в свою очередь, были вызваны тупо нежеланием сотрудничать с российскими атомщиками.

      And here is just a fistula in the pipe
      1. Neogumanoyd
        Neogumanoyd 18 December 2015 18: 57 New
        +4
        We will never know the exact reason, as I understand it, they explained it by turning off the Crimea or loading fuel rods
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 18 December 2015 19: 53 New
      +1
      Go to the Censor, there they will teach you to love Ukraine, that’s where there is anger against us and our president. Everything is clear that there are some Russians, although they call themselves Ukrainians and work for Uncle Sam. But on the other hand, if their tricks did not concern us and our children, we could leave them alone for decay. But this will not happen, they started talking about Georgia that they can accept NATO. Are there territorial claims? So gentlemen will change the rules of admission. How will we interact with our base in Armenia? How will we exist when installing missiles in Ukraine against us?
      This can not be? Read.
      http://cont.ws/post/165862

      So what will Ukrainians pat on the head?
  • veksha50
    veksha50 18 December 2015 19: 07 New
    +3
    "утверждая, что выброс радиоактивен, в то же время говорит, что измерения радиационного фона вблизи от АЭС показывают нормальные значения"...

    Let the forum users forgive me or slander me, but, observing the activities of ecologists, it often comes to my mind that in most cases they are not fighting for the purity of the planet, but are fulfilling some orders and creating excessive excitement ...

    Look, even the Finns and the Balts have already checked for themselves - and everything is fine with them ...

    I hope that the Chernobyl tragedy taught our nuclear scientists a lot ... Although ... so many years have passed without incident, they could have relaxed ...

    But technology is technology, it simply cannot function without various breakdowns ... The main thing is that these breakdowns do not carry the nature of a disaster ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 18 December 2015 19: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: veksha50
      Let the forum users forgive me or slander me, but, observing the activities of ecologists, it often comes to my mind that in most cases they are not fighting for the purity of the planet, but are fulfilling some orders and creating excessive excitement ...

      First of all, they are fighting for their further financing. Either fulfilling the already received grants, or attracting attention to receive new ones.
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 18 December 2015 19: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        they are fighting for their future funding. Or fulfilling already received grants



        What am I talking about ??? There, a maximum of 10% of young men and women with a blazing gaze who believe in their activity are engaged in the struggle for the environment ...

        And at the helm are burnt businessmen and provocateurs, earning this craft on bread and butter ...

        PS All the same, what a person is ... any good deed for the sake of money can bewilder-shit-distort ...
    2. Manul
      Manul 18 December 2015 20: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: veksha50
      Let the forum users forgive me or slander me, but, observing the activities of ecologists, it often comes to my mind that in most cases they are not fighting for the purity of the planet, but are fulfilling some orders and creating excessive excitement ...

      Даже сомнений нет.Любая общественная организация, которая может быть услышана народами через СМИ имеет управление от различных политических структур. При чем там везде есть люди которые действительно "ЗА ДЕЛО", но управляют всеми структурами , которые могут влиять на разум-честь-совесть, оперативные службы западного надзора. Все оплетено этими сетями.
  • Federal
    Federal 18 December 2015 19: 11 New
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    And that without coverage of events in such smallest details could not be done? Or is everything so serious that they inform the entire population of Russia?
    1. Manul
      Manul 18 December 2015 20: 32 New
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      Quote: Federal
      And that without coverage of events in such smallest details could not be done? Or is everything so serious that they inform the entire population of Russia?

      I think the bottom line is that the liberal media are bustling with us - as an antidote to us.
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 18 December 2015 19: 15 New
    +1
    Ну просто слов нет на этих "экологов". А те, что есть, цензура не пропустит. Выброс радиоактивного пара есть, а радиационный фон в норме. Ну если они не де-билы
    after that, who?
  • Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 18 December 2015 19: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: veksha50
    утверждая, что выброс радиоактивен, в то же время говорит, что измерения радиационного фона вблизи от АЭС показывают нормальные значения"...

    Well, he didn’t blow the whole pipe for two weeks. steamed a little, it was turned off, the room itself has protection, air filtration. It’s okay, they’ll repair it, they will wash everything with deactivates, and the mustache will be fine.
  • 1536
    1536 18 December 2015 19: 25 New
    +1
    Ох, и поднимется сейчас вой, эхом пройдет по всей планете. "Русские должны выключить все свои АЭС...!" И, главное, в стране кризис... миновал, но откуда столько "экологов" одноразово вылезло? Ждут, ждут гады прихода американцев, отключения АЭС, как в Прибалтике и разделения страны на байденовские уделы!
    1. Neogumanoyd
      Neogumanoyd 18 December 2015 19: 48 New
      +6
      Да нее.. После Фукусимы делай чего хочешь... Миллионы тонн радиоактивной воды в море... последствия непредсказуемы... А вот наши новые буровые в Арктике этим экологическим гномам покоя не дадут...Гринпис хоть слово сказал что мы, а точнее военные за полярным кругом убрали тысячи тонн мусора (правда за собой но неважно), они хоть слово сказали про западные корабли сбрасывающие в океан "неизвестные" бочки и контейнеры у берегов Сомали??
  • newcomer
    newcomer 18 December 2015 19: 39 New
    +4
    Friends, please forgive a little off topic. fresh news, if anyone is interested, from VPK name. the corporation fired 1500 people just before the new year.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 18 December 2015 19: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: newbie
      Friends, please forgive a little off topic. fresh news, if anyone is interested, from VPK name. the corporation fired 1500 people just before the new year.

      Менеджеров наверно..На каждую деталь 1 "менеджер"...... wassat
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 December 2015 20: 44 New
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        Yes, no - just the same workers - a team of 10000 workers for the construction and repair of 100 fighters in the corporation is considered redundant.
    2. evge-malyshev
      evge-malyshev 18 December 2015 20: 29 New
      0
      Скорее не ответить, а спросить: причем здесь "нейм" и что это такое?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 December 2015 20: 52 New
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        The news here is http://vpk.name/news/146533_vzlet_zapreshen_v_kanun_novogo_goda_uvoleno_svyishe_
        1500_sotrudnikov_rsk_mig.html
    3. evge-malyshev
      evge-malyshev 18 December 2015 20: 29 New
      0
      Скорее не ответить, а спросить: причем здесь "нейм" и что это такое?
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 18 December 2015 20: 53 New
      +2
      Guys with head and hands I think they will find work.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 18 December 2015 22: 32 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        Guys with head and hands I think they will find work.

        Не буду говорить за всех ,скажу за себя,да многие тут знают про НПО "Сатурн"вот меня сократили в 2002году,мне было в то время 34 года,хотя до этого проработал 7 лет на предприятии,но фишка была в том,"Сатурн" в те годы выпускал кроме авиадвигателей,новых не было или 1-2штуки,был ремонт,ещё и дизеля для южмаша и снегоходы,вот и на дизелях я и работал,вот не профильные дизель и сократили вместе с работниками,кого правда в основное производство устроили,кого на пенсию,кого на биржу труда,я вон простоял на бирже 3 месяца,получил все пологающиеся сокращенным и пошёл работать в литейку к участнику,в 2009 когда у участника как говорится упало все что возможно,вернулся на родное предприятие и до сих пор тружусь,так что все в жизни полосатое белое и чёрное,кто хочет тот всегда найдёт работу,тем более специалисты высокого класса,как то так.
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 18 December 2015 19: 41 New
    +1
    Well, plannedly stopped. What's so unusual
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 18 December 2015 19: 51 New
      -1
      Quote: Barracuda
      Well, plannedly stopped. What's so unusual

      Or maybe your job ...? (joke))))
  • vobels
    vobels 18 December 2015 19: 45 New
    0
    And the howl from all the striped-starred zhurnalyug and stink will stand up to heaven. And at the station everything will be fine, they are reliable. Although they worked out their own, but there is still enough stock. I am sure.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 18 December 2015 19: 49 New
    +4
    no. we are talking about working staff. The newspaper Vestnik Corporation wrote an open letter to the president of the gdp.
  • sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 18 December 2015 19: 59 New
    0
    Pah, pah, pah! Carried and okay.
  • Panabebis
    Panabebis 18 December 2015 20: 08 New
    -1
    By the way, there are many ancologically ill patients in Sosnovy Bor (I personally know). Maybe because of this?
  • evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 18 December 2015 20: 19 New
    +2
    The representative of the organization "Green World" Oleg Bodrov claims that the release is radioactive, because:
    Цитата: "Станция одноконтурная, а значит, весь steam on it radioactive. Another thing is that unknown extent of pollution. At the moment, it is known that the power unit is stopped, and employees are allowed to go home. Urban radioactive sensors show normal background, до 13 микрорентген в час".
    Цитата подтверждает абсолютную некомпетентность так называемых "зеленых". Для них важно взбаламутить народ и наших прибалтийских соседей. Но даже соседи не среагировали на этот провокационный "вброс".
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 18 December 2015 21: 03 New
      0
      В конце 80х учился в Томске. Там и тогда было 11 (одиннадцать!!!) работающих реакторов. В Городе в том числе!!! Чуть не в каждой халупе были заныканы рентгенометры и периодически народ проверялся... При мне один раз повышение фона было (после пожара на складах семёрки) и то далеко не смертельно. Так что вой всяких "зелёных писек" - переживём.
  • bmv04636
    bmv04636 18 December 2015 20: 27 New
    0
    the question is whose steam line was?
    On December 15, the opening of a new building for the production of pipelines for nuclear and thermal power plants of Belenergomash-BZEM LLC took place. The volume of investments in the complex amounted to more than 3,5 billion rubles. About 45 new jobs will be created at new production facilities of 500 thousand square meters.
    The project was implemented as part of the import substitution program and should become one of the largest and most modern pipeline production facilities in Russia.
    Created production has a closed technology, including the manufacture of pipes by electroslag remelting. The annual design production capacity is 18 thousand tons, which will make it possible to almost double the volume of shipped Belenergomash-BZEM products in two years from 2014.
    The complex is divided into several technological sections - a pipe production workshop using electroslag remelting method, a procurement section for pipe bending, welding, finishing, control and painting department. Thus, at the end of the flight, the customer will be presented with completely finished products.
  • starchina pv
    starchina pv 18 December 2015 20: 28 New
    +4
    all a glass for prevention !!!!!!
    1. stonks
      stonks 18 December 2015 22: 31 New
      0
      good
      The most practical advice!
  • newcomer
    newcomer 18 December 2015 20: 46 New
    +4
    vpk name is the name of the internet magazine vpk.
  • tanit
    tanit 18 December 2015 20: 58 New
    +1
    Well, what happened? Noticed, turned off, and, in fact, what? The standard situation.
    And - notice - provided in advance. In the corresponding instruction. hi
    No, well, no doubt, we'll all die ... wassat (sooner or later, one way or another)
    Pitchfork Lyashko crush in your hearts? laughing ("Пепел Клоасса стучит в мое сердце"?(с)
  • stonks
    stonks 18 December 2015 22: 22 New
    0
    From a statement by Oleg Bodrov:
    The station is single-circuit, which means that all the steam on it is radioactive.


    People, what happens?
    This means that the turbine receives vigorously radioactive superheated steam under ahhhrenitelnoy pressure ?!
    It seems to me that this Bodrov is not green, but blue!

    So guys, can there be ONE-LINE NPPs?
    And what is
    in the block of reducing devices of the deaerator.
    ?????
  • stonks
    stonks 18 December 2015 22: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Dimy4
    Dry saturated steam is non-radioactive,

    Steam is the state of aggregation of WATER.
    You want to say that WATER, passing through the REACTOR, does not become radioactive ???
    request
    1. Kelwin
      Kelwin 19 December 2015 14: 44 New
      0
      The activity of water KMPTs 4,0 * 10-7 Bq, this is not at all.
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  • Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 18 December 2015 22: 38 New
    +1
    For the second year in a row abnormal warm in winter and cold in summer in the central regions of Russia ... Perhaps this is a manifestation of climate weapons, but maybe not.
    But the weather generally got ...
  • Foxbed
    Foxbed 18 December 2015 23: 43 New
    +1
    Heh ... The article is completely off topic ... But ... wink I read your comments, I liked it! How many people are versed in the Soviet-designed reactors. yes laughing
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 19 December 2015 03: 14 New
    0
    that the wind in the Leningrad region had a western and north-western direction.
  • Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 19 December 2015 03: 44 New
    0
    And for me, who works in the power industry, it’s unpleasant news that even nuclear power plants seem to work with fistulas in steam pipelines, and not just thermal power plants. So, we are laughing about Ukraine with its nuclear power plants, while the most efficient managers under the leadership of Kinder surprise cut repair programs for the sake of increasing profits ... Not understanding, or not wanting to understand, that Chernobyl and Fukushima are not toys ...
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 19 December 2015 04: 59 New
    +3
    Zadolbali media-all shnyaga presented. As a sensation !!! You read the title uncomfortably, but in reality it’s just an empty ring.
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 19 December 2015 06: 29 New
    0
    that the wind in the Leningrad region had a western and north-western direction.
    When it comes to labuses, the fans at the border will be placed and they themselves will blow towards Russia!
  • komlomal
    komlomal 19 December 2015 11: 16 New
    0
    3000 mW? Or maybe a megawatt? Or something else?
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 19 December 2015 14: 25 New
    0
    Quote: vanya
    stop repeating nonsense; The Chernobyl accident occurred due to the imperfection of the reactor itself, and the operators were blamed as the reactor designer was the head of the minatom

    And why did Vanya get so harshly screwed up that it wasn’t ... And anyway, you can chew this nonsense. We go on the eve of and read. There is a VIUR man there - everything in Russian is laid out on the shelves. And here to Wellcome http://www.accidont.ru/
  • Bator
    Bator 19 December 2015 16: 04 New
    0
    Ребята служил я в "Сосняке" в 1986 году и на 1 Майскую демонстрацию ходил. И на объект на самой ЛАЭС неоднократно был (с дозиметром). Фон в городе был чуть выше, чем на станции.
    1. Kelwin
      Kelwin 19 December 2015 16: 59 New
      0
      Moscow, Savvinskaya embankment - in the yard 14, on embankment 18. Personally measured, granite embankment fonit.
      1. mehanik27
        mehanik27 19 December 2015 17: 45 New
        +1
        Granite itself is phonite, granite has an indicator slightly higher than the natural background, but also in tolerance ..
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