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In the south-east of Turkey during the battle with the Kurdish armed forces killed a Turkish soldier

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Turkish department of the TV channel CNN It comes out with a report in which one Turkish soldier was killed in south-eastern Turkey. At the same time, the report says that a Turkish soldier was killed during an exchange of fire with Kurdish armed formations. It is noted that the Turkish army, together with the police, is conducting an “anti-terrorist operation” in the area of ​​the cities of Diyarbakir (there is a NATO air base there) and Nusaybin. A curfew has been in effect for several weeks in cities.


In the south-east of Turkey during the battle with the Kurdish armed forces killed a Turkish soldier


Turkish media reported that about 10 thousands of security officials were involved in the special operation in the south-east of the country. According to the same media, Turkish armed forces killed about fifty Kurds, who were called members of the Kurdistan Workers' Party banned in Turkey.

Statements of the Turkish media and authorities of the country can hardly be called consistent. Official Ankara declares that in the south-east of Turkey it fights against Kurdish armed formations, but in the north of Iraq the Kurdish armed formations not only support, but also train. Moreover, the Turkish authorities say that the Peshmerga fighters (as the Kurdish militia) trained by the Turkish military experts successfully oppose the ISIL militants in Iraqi territory. But at the same time, about a month and a half ago, the Turkish Air Force dropped bombs on the heads of the same Peshmerga fighters ...
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  1. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 18 December 2015 17: 04 New
    42
    So what?
    I will not grieve, I will not rejoice .. why do I need this news?
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 18 December 2015 17: 14 New
      15
      Yes, and Allah is with him, and the fact that the Turkish leadership through and through is false and corrupt, for a long time our VKS in Syria have experienced this on themselves.
      1. Blondy
        Blondy 19 December 2015 06: 57 New
        +2
        Well, then there, most likely, the matter was not limited to one soldier.
    2. Boos
      Boos 18 December 2015 17: 15 New
      +7
      Согласен с вами,есть темы поактуальней,на мой взгляд ВО стал избегать их,видимо не рекомендуют "раскачивать лодку".
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      So what?
      I will not grieve, I will not rejoice .. why do I need this news?
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 18 December 2015 17: 21 New
        +4
        Something is not enough ... Well, there is a beginning! Turkey wanted this and she will get it ... Do not blame strictly, but you have to pay for treason and not only economically! hi
      2. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 19 December 2015 00: 48 New
        +1
        Then the local news spread the Turks again threaten, if we want to take Russia in 7 days http://ceskoaktualne.cz/2015/12/turecko-varuje-pokud-budeme-chtit-obsadime-rusko
        -do-7-dnu / WE CAN OCCUPIATE RUSSIA LESS THAN IN SEVEN DAYS http://kak2z.ru/index.php?topic=266042.0
    3. svp67
      svp67 18 December 2015 17: 19 New
      14
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      I will not grieve, I will not rejoice .. why do I need this news?

      For general development, so that the completeness of the picture is greater.
      Новость говорит о том, что не все в порядке в доме у Эрдогана...А учитывая какие у нас ранее были связи и отношения с курдским подпольем в Турции, то можно их и возобновить, тогда совсем может быть Эрдогану "кисло"
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 18 December 2015 17: 32 New
        +7
        Erdogan is not all right with his head. We broke their business, family business. That’s the whole song, and what was, the feather grass was overgrown.
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 18 December 2015 19: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        The news says that not everything is in order in Erdogan’s house ..

        winked Я так понял что "дом" это намек на черепную коробку Эндругана? yes Sergey, hi !
    4. sisa29
      sisa29 18 December 2015 17: 28 New
      14
      Ну если на сайте военное обозрение Вы считаете что статья про вооруженный инцендент и сложную ситуацию в стране , разжигающей войну является лишней то о чем будем на сайте дискутировать? Может обсуждать статьи типа недавно была тут ' из конструктора лего создали огнемет'. Согласен сегодняшняя статья не самая информативная но она в духе данного ресурса и несет в себе полезную информацию
    5. little girl15
      little girl15 18 December 2015 17: 35 New
      +3
      I wonder who takes an example: Turks from ukrov or vice versa in the ATO.
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 18 December 2015 20: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Vovochka15
        I wonder who takes an example: Turks from ukrov or vice versa in the ATO.

        They take everything from each other. Now there are few tourists, Ukraine will help out.
        The national team of Ukraine for Euro 2016 will be prepared in Turkey
        Sport bigmir, Today, 15:40 PM
        They will come with the whole family, along with their wives. All inclusive taxis. laughing
    6. maks-101
      maks-101 18 December 2015 18: 17 New
      +1
      Yes, the fact is that in Ukraine in the past they threw a janek for such matters, but here the West is silent.
      Double standards on the face. Someone can, but not others.
    7. avt
      avt 18 December 2015 18: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      I will not grieve, I will not rejoice .. why do I need this news?

      This news is that a full-scale guerrilla war is going on in Turkish Kurdistan and the Turks are suffering losses. Most recently it slipped - they are preparing air strikes against the PKK across the territory ..... in the area of ​​the cities of Diyarbakir! There has been a war there for a long time and here is a scale that is to hide it is no longer possible under the police operation of the gendarmerie - units of the regular army are connected and they suffer losses that are also difficult to hide, as well as the actual participation of the army.
      It is noted that the Turkish army, together with the police, is conducting an “anti-terrorist operation” in the area of ​​the cities of Diyarbakir (where the NATO airbase is located) and Nusaybin. For several weeks now, cities have been under curfew.
      Вот и пишут как в том анекдоте -,,Гиви , сколко будэт 2х2 умныожыт ? Пят .Да .Гдэ то так ,пят, шэст не болше ". Так и тут - потери есть в антитеррорестической полицейской операции ....в армии ? Да , адын аскери ,нэ болшэ.
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 18 December 2015 20: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: avt
        parts of the regular army are connected and they suffer losses, which are also difficult to hide, as well as the actual participation of the army.

        1. avt
          avt 18 December 2015 21: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: Dryuya2
          Dryuya2

          Now guess if, as Baghdasarov constantly demands, the PKK will receive full-scale deliveries not only of the rifleman, but also including the ATGM, which supplies the spirits against Assad. Yes, they will tear Turkey into ribbons for a cap. Iraqi borzanists naturally do not count, these are sitting exactly with Erdogan.
          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 18 December 2015 22: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: avt
            Now estimate if, as Baghdasarov constantly demands

            хоть я и "слышал" не лестные отзывы о Багдасарове - его слова думаю не остаются без внимания .
    8. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 18 December 2015 19: 16 New
      +1
      This is what. They thought they dispersed the rally with blood and everything will be quiet?
    9. sergant67
      sergant67 18 December 2015 19: 32 New
      0
      so that your brains are not distracted by extraneous topics .....
    10. Asadullah
      Asadullah 18 December 2015 21: 08 New
      +4
      So what?
      I will not grieve, I will not rejoice .. why do I need this news?


      I don’t know, separation along the fronts occurred after the death of our side. Now, any loss of the enemy Turkish army is a satisfaction. Who will say that today the Turkish army is not hostile? The fact that there are no active b / ds, or rather, the fact that they are not spoken about, means nothing. Nowadays, they don’t talk about much, and in Syria itself, more than one Turkish military or two was killed. It’s just that they don’t officially exist there.
      1. pest
        pest 18 December 2015 21: 18 New
        0
        What can I comment on: - pancake mazafaka, ... As our partners say ...
    11. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 19 December 2015 07: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      I will not grieve, I will not rejoice .. why do I need this news?

      - Well, for example, for general development ...
    12. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 19 December 2015 07: 44 New
      0
      about a month and a half ago, the Turkish Air Force dropped bombs on the heads of the same Peshmerga fighters ...

      “But not all the Kurds die!”
  2. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 18 December 2015 17: 05 New
    +9
    Official Ankara claims that in the south-east of Turkey it is fighting against Kurdish armed forces, while in northern Iraq, Kurdish armed forces not only support, but also train.

    Kurds, from the point of view of the Turks, are divided into right and wrong. Iraqi people are right, and Turkish citizens of Kurdish nationality are wrong: they are rebels and separatists.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 18 December 2015 17: 12 New
      +2
      Kurds, from the point of view of the Turks, are divided into right and wrong. Iraqi people are right, and Turkish citizens of Kurdish nationality are wrong: they are rebels and separatists.

      Not certainly in that way. In Turkey, everything is like in Ukraine. If the Kurd refuses to recognize himself as a Turk, then he is a potential separatist / terrorist.
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 18 December 2015 17: 10 New
    +2
    Kurds play the dark, they want, or rather use Ankara for their own purposes. Kurds have not forgotten about their state.
  4. Sultan Babai
    Sultan Babai 18 December 2015 17: 10 New
    0
    In Turkey, the most important bad guy should be isolated for a long time in an insulator (as an insulator it is better to have a roofing felt roll). And Turkish soldiers themselves must understand that the Kurds do not have slingshots in their hands ... and holes in the body can be the last.
  5. yuriy55
    yuriy55 18 December 2015 17: 11 New
    +2
    Peshmerga fighters trained by Turkish military experts (the so-called Kurdish militia) successfully oppose ISIS militants in Iraqi territory.


    and the Turkish military believes that there is no one steeper than the Turkish army ... One already does not think so ...
    hi
  6. Egor123
    Egor123 18 December 2015 17: 11 New
    +1
    Official Ankara claims that in the south-east of Turkey it is fighting against Kurdish armed forces, while in northern Iraq, Kurdish armed forces not only support, but also train.


    In my opinion, the Turks are not friends with the head. lol
    1. cap
      cap 18 December 2015 18: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Egor123
      Official Ankara claims that in the south-east of Turkey it is fighting against Kurdish armed forces, while in northern Iraq, Kurdish armed forces not only support, but also train.


      In my opinion, the Turks are not friends with the head. lol


      Divide the rule. The most important thing is that the Kurds do not unite on a united front against Turkey.
  7. 1976AG
    1976AG 18 December 2015 17: 15 New
    +7
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    So what?
    I will not grieve, I will not rejoice .. why do I need this news?


    However, a comment was left for something.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 18 December 2015 17: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: 1976AG
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      So what?
      I will not grieve, I will not rejoice .. why do I need this news?


      However, a comment was left for something.

      Maybe waiting for another Russian plane to be shot down ..? and THERE!! ...
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 18 December 2015 17: 36 New
        +3
        Mikhalych, not hami ... a competent man, but he wrote crap now ... isn’t that a shame? I respect you for your posts - I will not minus one.
        1. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 18 December 2015 17: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          Mikhalych, not hami ... a competent man, but he wrote crap now ... isn’t that a shame? I respect you for your posts - I will not minus one.

          Now I am ashamed .. I apologize! But you also wrote so suspiciously .. hi
          1. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 18 December 2015 18: 01 New
            +3
            Mikhalych, you are a MAN ... with a capital letter, honestly. No one here has yet admitted that he is wrong and ashamed .. (I have not seen). Respect to you and respect, as they say. hi
            You have risen above the marshal in my eyes ..
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    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 18 December 2015 17: 38 New
      +1
      I left it for you to comment on it .. hi
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  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 18 December 2015 17: 16 New
    +2
    Kurdish-Kurdish strife! Ankara has led itself into a dead end some now. Now this tangle must be disentangled, but it does not seem to dissolve! Since blood has been pouring for a long time, it’s almost forever. Maybe they really thought of resettling the Kurds by creating territory for them in part of Iraq, which is happening now. Let's see!
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 18 December 2015 17: 50 New
      +2
      If we consider Turkey’s actions not logical, then simple we don’t know its goals. In my opinion, everything is simple. Turkish and Syrian Kurds want Kurghistan, independent of Turkey, and Iraqi Kurds, Kurghistan independent of Iraq, but dependent on Turkey. Therefore, the Irdogan spills his Kurds, and protects the Iraqi.
      1. Extraneous
        Extraneous 18 December 2015 21: 13 New
        +4
        Not certainly in that way.
        Turkish Kurds began their struggle a very long time ago with the fact that they simply wanted to have a record of their nationality in their passports. Then they did not put forward any other ideas. Timid statements gradually grew into demonstrations that were suppressed. Surely there was financial support from behind the hill, as always in such cases. And most likely from the states through the Saudis. Everything spun on increasing up to armed clashes. Periodically, everything settled down. But the general attitude of the Turks towards the Kurds, as we have to the Gypsies, renews the conflict again and again. At the moment, Kurdish clashes with the Turkish army, terrorist attacks and demonstrations have been going on for several years. The idea of ​​free Kurdistan among Turkish Kurds is now the main theme.

        The Syrian Kurds before the start of the mess in Syria did not think about any autonomy. During the war, seeing that assassins came to Assad, they decided that the idea of ​​Kurdistan was not so bad. The arrival of Syria in Russia led to the fact that the Syrian Kurds agree to autonomy within Syria.

        Iraqi Kurds began to show any activity only after the overthrow of Hussein. Although there were attempts to excite people under Saddam by the efforts of the same states. They did not have success. All active actions on the part of Iraqi Kurds began with the advent of America in Iraq. And they are completely tied to the states. But they will fight only in the territory that they consider their own. Therefore, the amers are unlikely to be able to force them to go to Raqqa.

        Iranian Kurds. Nothing shines with it. sit quieter than water, below the grass. And right, in general. They will be more whole.

        If the option conceived by Russia is realized, then perhaps there will be two geographically separated Kurdistan with Syria between them. Which is not very good in view of the inevitable tension in Syrian-Kurdish relations.
        The American version assumes a single Kurdistan (yes, yes - they are going to subsequently divide Turkey)
        The Saudi option does not imply Kurdistan. They benefit from the whole of Syria, but without Assad, and under the control of ultra-radicals, of which they gave rise. (Do not confuse with Daesh - this is an entirely American project.)
        1. Bochik
          Bochik 18 December 2015 23: 24 New
          0
          Quote: Stranger


          The American version assumes a single Kurdistan (yes, yes - they are going to subsequently divide Turkey)

          Please link to a credible source.
          1. Extraneous
            Extraneous 18 December 2015 23: 57 New
            0
            :about)
            The American television station NBC apologized for calling the eastern part of Turkey "Kurdistan." According to APA, an apology voiced during the Today’s Show said: “Last week, in the information about the invasion of Iran by three American climbers, NBC News showed a map showing the region as“ Kurdistan ". In Iraq, there is a political region known as Kurdistan, but part of Turkey was also included in this map and Syria. We regret the mistake. ”

            Source: http://deyerler.org/en/41374-rrrsryoryerrsryeryor-srrrryerrrr-ryisryorrs-ryorrir
            yorrrryos-rr-ryersss-vrssrryossrrrv.html

            this is still December 2009!
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 18 December 2015 20: 21 New
      0
      Quote: dchegrinec
      Kurd Kurd strife

      This is very reminiscent of Ukraine! Western, Eastern, Southeast or Odessa Ukrainian are very, very big differences! Everyone has different concepts about Freedom and Equality. In Turkey, everything is more complicated and much longer in time, especially since they are separated by borders and can not agree among themselves! And if the Kurds of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran find a common language among themselves, Turkey will be very bad!
  9. FINN74
    FINN74 18 December 2015 17: 16 New
    0
    Турки на "тёмную сторону" перешли
    1. Extraneous
      Extraneous 18 December 2015 21: 22 New
      +1
      Turks on the bright side have never been.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 18 December 2015 23: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Stranger
        Turks on the bright side have never been.
        Did not the Turks support us with their statements after the operation to force Georgia to peace?
        1. Extraneous
          Extraneous 19 December 2015 00: 00 New
          0
          Did the Turks recognize the independence of Ossetia?
  10. good7
    good7 18 December 2015 17: 18 New
    0
    They are preparing the Peshmerga Barzani KDP, who betrayed the Yezidi and Shiite Kurds by surrendering Mosul! Barzani is already in open consultation with Davutoglow and forbids the flag of Kurdistan in the controlled territory!
  11. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 18 December 2015 17: 22 New
    -3
    The statements of the Turkish media and the authorities of the country can hardly be called consistent ... in the south-east of Turkey, she is fighting the Kurdish armed forces, but in the north of Iraq, the Kurdish armed forces not only support, but also train.

    and what did the author see as inconsistent?

    But at the same time, about a month and a half ago, the Turkish Air Force dropped bombs on the heads of the same Peshmerga fighters ...

    I seem to be missing something. Did the Turks really bomb the Iraqi Kurds?
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 18 December 2015 21: 14 New
      0
      RPK fighters who crossed the border were bombed in Iraq, there are no problems with Iraqi Kurds
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  12. polite people
    polite people 18 December 2015 17: 42 New
    +2
    Yes, all the same, the Kurds will tear Turkey in this century.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 18 December 2015 17: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: polite people
      Yes, all the same, the Kurds will tear Turkey in this century.

      And Russia will help them with this with pleasure (not explicitly, but specifically) ... soldier
    2. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 18 December 2015 21: 16 New
      0
      neither in this nor in subsequent ones. for 1000 years of neighborhood this did not happen, what has changed now?
  13. Rossiyanin
    Rossiyanin 18 December 2015 17: 53 New
    0
    I am not happy, but I do not cry, it all depends on the further actions of the Turkish leadership.
  14. Barakuda
    Barakuda 18 December 2015 17: 55 New
    +2
    Well, everything, ran to the nearest mosque - 80 km. I took the mat with me. smile
    Although the local Chechen mullah rented an apartment, and in the room opposite the house to the east, they regularly bow their heads.
    При Яныке всех "выбили", а тут снова нарисовались.( отходили в украине паразиты тут после ударов России при Юще,Ку-ч-мовозе )
  15. Mjohn
    Mjohn 18 December 2015 18: 02 New
    0
    It's time to return Ararat
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 18 December 2015 18: 09 New
      +1
      To whom? Want war in the wrong hands? I tried, the brain no longer becomes. For example -

      Some governor Poroshenko sits in Lipetsk, and dictates - taxes, work .. And the government well .. Well, and grabbing bribes .. It's not a secret.
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  17. The black
    The black 18 December 2015 18: 12 New
    +3
    According to some media reports, the Turkish provinces of Shirnak, Diyarbakir and Mardin (Kurds live there compactly) launched full-scale military operations with the use of aircraft. So for Turkey, everything is just beginning.
  18. Belarus
    Belarus 18 December 2015 18: 46 New
    +1
    I like many just don't understand the news and the dead Turkish soldier. Why then there is no news about how many Kurds killed Turkish troops request ? And where are the favorite statements of gay-European politicians about the illegality of the use of force by Turkish troops ?!
    The whole trouble of Turkey is that you need to think and think with your head. And apparently, their head (Turkey) has a head lol and she does not know how to think.
  19. denni
    denni 18 December 2015 19: 16 New
    0
    Is Diyarbakir airbase not the one with which the F-16 flew, which shot down our bomber? If so, then I won’t bother if the Kurds undermine it.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 18 December 2015 20: 27 New
      0
      Quote: denni
      If so, then I won’t bother if the Kurds undermine it.

      The Kurds are ready, but just waiting for the Order!
      1. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 18 December 2015 21: 20 New
        0
        your his? Then command, Comrade Marshal!
    2. Extraneous
      Extraneous 18 December 2015 23: 28 New
      0
      Americans today are already distilling their planes from this air base to England.
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  21. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 18 December 2015 19: 21 New
    +1
    Two ballistic missiles were launched from Yemen in Saudi Arabia. After that, one of them was intercepted by the air defense forces of the kingdom, and the second fell in a desert area east of the city of Najran, reports Al Arabiya News Channel.

    There is no data on injured or dead.

    Armed conflict is ongoing in Yemen. Hussite rebels from Ansar Alla and part of the army loyal to former President Ali Abdullah Saleh are fighting the troops of President Abd-Rabbou Mansur Hadi. The troops are supported by the Arab coalition led by Saudi Arabia, both on land and from the air. More than ten thousand people take part in the hostilities.

    It was previously reported that two ballistic missiles were fired from the territory of Yemen in Saudi Arabia.
  22. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 18 December 2015 19: 27 New
    +2
    Strongly dissatisfied with the Kurdish comrades. Why you are alone?
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 19 December 2015 07: 08 New
      0
      Most likely they have an account like dill, one we write and figs knows how much in mind. But you can’t hide it anymore.
      The deputy head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Information Policy, Tatyana Popova, said that an appeal from Turkish colleagues had come to Kiev from Ankara, asking for help in counteracting "Russian propaganda."
  23. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 18 December 2015 20: 12 New
    0
    And comrade Barzani — he is the head of Peshmerga — in the share of oil caravans in Turkey. And what should he fight? Syrian Kurds and Iraqi - identical in nationality but different in corruption
  24. kapitan92
    kapitan92 18 December 2015 20: 15 New
    +6
    Quote: AIR-ZNAK
    And comrade Barzani — he is the head of Peshmerga — in the share of oil caravans in Turkey. And what should he fight? Syrian Kurds and Iraqi - identical in nationality but different in corruption

    That's when the Syrian Kurds will have oil fields under the booty, you will not find a difference.
  25. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 18 December 2015 20: 41 New
    +1
    The shootout turned out to be strange, until the first one was killed. After which everyone parted.
  26. 31rus
    31rus 18 December 2015 20: 46 New
    0
    Dear, you forgot the information about the deliveries that began, while the small arms were delivered to the Kurds by Russia, and the effect didn’t wait, another ratio of losses is very doubtful and not objective, especially since Turkey just needs an enemy and naturally a war
  27. tanit
    tanit 18 December 2015 21: 19 New
    0
    Well, something like this. hi
    1. faridg7
      faridg7 19 December 2015 12: 30 New
      +1
      Well, the great Khayyam for that,
      not good, ayah.
  28. Baloo
    Baloo 18 December 2015 21: 54 New
    +1
    Мы напрасно расчитываем, что"партнеры" по антиигиловской коалиции будут придерживаться каких-то правил или международного права. Ворованная ИГИЛ нефть через курдскую территорию на севере Ирака (11тыс бензовозов засекла разведка ВКС) вновь через Турцию и морем будет уходить. Это бизнес, контролируемый спецслужбами и направленный на нестабильность в экономике в мировом масштабе в т.ч. против нас.
    Так что чем больше будет контролироватьсяч территория Сирии Ассада, тем Сирии и РФ будет легче. ИГИЛ контролирует и направляет в первую очередь разведка Турции, этот ведь их главарь предлагал признать ИГИЛ государством и открыть представительство в Стамбуле, т.е. легализовать бандитов-исламофашистов. Посмотрите: задержаны неизвестные с партией паспортов европейских государств. Кому эти паспорта приназначались. Изза чего "шоу летающего стакана" в Киеве? Из-за схватки за контроль за одесским портом, куда приплывает нефть ИГИЛ, а уплывает нефть бандеркраины.
    Kurds are also apparently scattered. Those who share with ISIS and the Turks have an interest in the oil trade, albeit for nothing. In addition to Iran and the Russian Federation, there is no one to help Syria. Kurds who strive for independence need to be supported, but the question is, with whom is it beneficial?
    In the meantime, the Russian Federation will destroy this infection of Islamofascism, no matter what moral suffering our position and liberals in the Russian Federation do not experience.
  29. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 18 December 2015 22: 05 New
    0
    Nevertheless, the news is interesting.
    An operation of 10000 troops with military losses of 1 soldier somehow does not fit together.
    I agree with those who suggested that the losses are underestimated, especially when you consider
    that the Kurds lost 50 people. Are the Kurds against them with baseball bats out?
    Quote: dr.star75
    In my opinion, everything is simple. Turkish and Syrian Kurds want Kurgistan independent of Turkey, and Iraqi Kurds, Kurghistan independent of Iraq, but dependent on Turkey. Therefore, the Irdogan spills his Kurds, and protects the Iraqi.

    So it seems to me, with a slight correction, if you will allow me: the Kurds want to unite everything, both Iraqi, and Turkish, and Syrian, and Iranian (regarding the Iranian, here is an interesting link:
    http://leto-volodya.livejournal.com/97151.html )
    A hundred years have not passed since Kurdistan was torn apart, the most ancient of them still remember, probably.
    Only under different conditions are they all:
    -иранские курды всё же более "среди своих" - это иранский народ, им есть что терять, уходя из Ирана;
    -Iraqi isolated, Baghdad is not a decree for them, bargain with oil, Turkey (the enemy of Iran!) buys, and who
    I have a crush on oil revenues - it’s difficult to come off, and you have to live somehow - Iraq is defeated, Baghdad will not help;
    -Turkish survive under conditions of almost genocide, there is nothing to lose;
    -Syrian now also has almost nothing to lose: there is no genocide, but there is war, and there is little hope of victory ...
    Here Turkey kills its own and Syrian Kurds, encourages strangers to corruption. Divide and rule!
    Quote: Tol100v
    And if the Kurds of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran find a common language among themselves, Turkey will be very bad!

    "That's right!" (Red Army Sukhov)
  30. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 18 December 2015 22: 38 New
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    Erdogan, probably, began to drift off strongly at the corners, like a hare. I think that soon the overseas regional committee, along with a depraved bed - a geyropa will begin to delicately clean Erdogan.
  31. gozmosZh
    gozmosZh 18 December 2015 22: 48 New
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    Poor Erdogashka. He drove himself into a corner.
  32. cheap trick
    cheap trick 18 December 2015 22: 51 New
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    If Saakashvili and Avakov were roaming with sovereign mine, then this would be the real Gogol Les Poderevyansky.
    And in Russian - some sort of disgrace and disgrace came out.

    Avakov: You said that the Cabinet of Ministers will embrace corruption, they said without proof, clearly, clearly, nonsignificantly.
    Saakashvili: Duzhe is evidence.
    Avakov: You marvel at nyogo. Sere, spіvaєsche y trіski zbiraє.
    Saakashvili: Duzhe is evidence, I repeat.
    Avakov: A shit toby ruined! ...
    Саакашвілі: Хай би тобі пір'я в горлі поросло!
    Avakov: Yak-vi speak in such vipadki, be-be-be-be-be, do you say so?
    Saakashvili: What do you mean be-be-be-be? So I don’t have a chance for anything.
    Avakov: I’ll be so rosy with you!
    Saakashvіlі: And shob toby zatsіpilo ...
    Avakov: Vrava that th crooked! ... Abi tobi slaughtered ...
    Saakashvіlі: I invoke you to vivichlivostі. On vіdmіnu vіd you have me і міліонів, мільярдів немає ніде.
    Avakov: T ... ti, guilty unstable! Know the wickedness.
    Saakashvіlі: And shit spun you around, took time and hell ... My heart was shukala. Joke garnishly.
    Poroshenko: Pin up, bovduri. Have you suffered a chorty? Give you walnut!
    Saakashvіlі: I will not be corrupted ministra ....
    Avakov: Stools heel, the governor's corruption. Suce vuho.
    Saakashvili: What? Oh tee, pillowcase!
    Avakov: But ty, scum!
    Poroshenko: But bodai vi affected!
    Avakov: Zayets!
    Poroshenko: Arsen Borisovich ... is it possible without matyukіv?
    Avakov: Matyukiv not bulo.
    Poroshenko: I'm Chuv. Men did not slaughter. Durbelock (verse).
    Avakov: I want to close ...
    Poroshenko: So, I ask you, on a daily basis, in order of the day, and not on the basis of comments by sight. I beg. From yolopi (to himself).
    Avakov: In food supply, in your own lives, in Panama Saakashvili, in the process of privatization of the privately owned refineries?
    Saakashvili: Serun to you, bowing ... I have less than a good reputation for nothing. I don’t climb, so that I can be seen as the villainous ministry, because I know the whole country, ...

    Avakov kidє bottle of water

    Poroshenko: Arsen! Wow, have you fooled?
    Avakov: From the creature. 100 kilograms of havna - and stink like a ton ...
    Saakashvili: Evil! Kiss me in the fuck!
    Avakov: Lino. Schob your fray at the seam of a rose ...
    Saakashvili: So shit and bastard banged and thrilled ... Thou will sit, that is ... I am Ukrainian, the last.
    Avakov: I am Ukrainian.
    Saakashvili: Nі, ty - villain i leave!
    Аваков: А ти базікало і блазень! Щоб тебе пранці з'їли!
    Yatsenyuk: Telepen, hto ti axis!
    Avakov: Circus, swine taka ... Get out of my country at three shorts!
    Yatsenyuk: A guest performer, just for the whole bazaar ... Did you take it!
    Avakov: Guilty dog ​​...
    Яценюк: Щоб ти всрався! Тебе запросили в країну справу робити, а не аферизмом політичним займатися. Морду наїв, що й возом не об'їдеш…
    Saakashvіlі: Shit-smeared, crayfish climbed. You imagine the people of Ukraine ... and you will be for the best!
    Poroshenko: Until the assassination, panov, to assassin tse zsidannya. All rose!
  33. Seneca
    Seneca 18 December 2015 22: 54 New
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    We have the Caucasus in their Kurdistan. It’s only more difficult for them. When independence is achieved, Kurdistan has a chance to be economically independent and create its own economy through oil. Throw off how many special forces soldiers and other units died in 2015 in the Caucasus.
  34. Plastun
    Plastun 19 December 2015 00: 04 New
    +1
    'Это называется,ДА НАЧНЕТСЯ ВЕЛИКИЙ СРАЧ!!!
  35. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 19 December 2015 01: 56 New
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    Forget about uniting the Kurds against the Turks. in Turkey itself, half of the Kurds vote for Erdogan. in Iraq, Kurds Barzani with two hands for Turkey. go to google map and look at pictures of the northern cities of Iraq - Dahuk, Sulaymaniyah, Erbil, which are under the political control of the Democratic Party of China and under the economic control of Turkey. and for comparison, look at the same pictures of cities under the rule of the Baghdad government. The choice of Iraqi Kurds will be obvious in favor of Turkey. Persians control Iranian, Syrian are not so numerous. Yezidis are generally outcasts whom the Kurds themselves do not particularly perceive.
  36. armageddon
    armageddon 19 December 2015 02: 28 New
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    Quote: sovetskyturist
    Then the local news spread the Turks again threaten, if we want to take Russia in 7 days http://ceskoaktualne.cz/2015/12/turecko-varuje-pokud-budeme-chtit-obsadime-rusko


    -do-7-dnu / WE CAN OCCUPIATE RUSSIA LESS THAN IN SEVEN DAYS http://kak2z.ru/index.php?topic=266042.0

    Hmm ... A SAY ... WITH WHICH beech? ...
    1. Foxmara
      Foxmara 19 December 2015 10: 33 New
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      * If necessary, I assure you, we can occupy Russia in less than seven days with our regional allies * - he warned.

      And who are the regional allies? Is that Ukraine? So dill, more than death, is afraid that the Russian Federation will actually begin to fight. Who else are there from the great regionals? Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan? And .... I know, these are probably the great Balts? And of course the Poles. Is there a coalition, I suppose?
      If you think about it, Qatar is strong with an American base, the Saudis will hire someone to replace them, the money has not run out (they themselves will continue to drift in gold cars), the Baltic states will put forward all three tanks inherited from the USSR and a submarine from before WWII, tanks from Europe they are unlikely to be allowed to use, they will suddenly break it. And now, after 7 days they all run to give up? This is a real danger, it is urgently necessary to ban the capture of the regionals.
  37. bad
    bad 19 December 2015 03: 39 New
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    The Turkish section of CNN broadcasts a report reporting that one Turkish soldier was killed in southeastern Turkey. At the same time, the report says that a Turkish soldier was killed during a shootout with Kurdish armed forces
    ... heh .. did the Turks also have their Southeast? ... symbolically ..
  38. Foxmara
    Foxmara 19 December 2015 06: 21 New
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    and there is. in Iraq they support the Kurds, why not ?? After all, if the Kurds get independence there, this will weaken Iraq and it is possible that it will be possible to bend under itself. The PKK wants to cut a piece from Turkey itself. What is independence ??
  39. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 19 December 2015 07: 12 New
    0
    The Turkish government made another controversial statement to Russia, reports Pravda.ru. Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that if Turkey and the NATO bloc unite, they will be able to occupy Russia in less than a week.

    According to YourNewsWire portal, Cavusoglu voiced his position on the air of one of the Turkish television channels. “If necessary, we with NATO and regional conservatives will be able to occupy Russia in less than 7 days,” the publication quoted him as saying.

    Other points from the head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry were also full of threats and overt aggression. Among other things, the following phrase was heard on the air: “We urge Russia, one of our largest trading partners, to sit quietly, but we warn that our patience is not unlimited.”

    Such statements look very strange against the background of the position of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who says that Turkey wants to normalize relations with Russia and does not intend to continue the conflict, the observer of Pravda.ru concludes.
  40. Alexander 67
    Alexander 67 19 December 2015 07: 57 New
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    Это только начало. Это для нас,они турки. А для себя они всегда знали,кто они ,есть такие. А они всего лишь "турки",то есть тюрки. Группа племён,весьма не однородная. Самая одиозная их часть,это племена населяющие Восточную Анатолию. Именно от туда родам ,сам Эрдоган.Именно оттуда родом ,глава молодёжного крыла "серых волков" ,мелькающий в видео из Сирии. И именно от туда родом был Осман I,основатель османской империи. Да и сами "тюрки" пришлый народ на землях Византийской Анатолии. Так что ,тут только Творцу Вседержителю известно,куда "стрельнет". Там столько всего по намешано за века.
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 19 December 2015 10: 46 New
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      and the Greeks themselves were a newcomer nation on the lands of Anatolia.
      and who is the leader of the youth wing of the Bozkurs now?
      I never heard that there was a division into youth, the elderly, etc.
      do not enlighten?
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