Media: Turkey stayed with the laying of a new diesel-electric submarines for several years

By signing a contract with the German company Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW) at 2009, Turkey only this year was able to secure the first submarine at its shipyard Gölcük, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the French edition of TTU.

Bookmark the keel of the non-nuclear submarine Pirireis of the 214 project at the Turkish naval shipyard Gölcük, 10.10.2015.

According to the contract for the construction of 6 diesel-electric submarines of project 214, the first boat was to be laid in 2011 at the Turkish shipyard Gölcük in Geljuk. This year, according to the schedule, it should already be transferred the fleet.

However, for a number of reasons (technical and economic), the keel of the new submarine was laid only on October 10 2015. And now, according to TTU, “the earliest deadline for the completion of its construction is 2020 year”

Now, amid aggravated relations with Russia, the Turkish authorities only have to regret their stinginess and awkwardness, the newspaper writes.

At the same time, it notes that Russia "at this time began to mass-produce diesel-electric submarines of the 636.3 project for the Black Sea Fleet," and two of them had already been transferred to the customer.

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[cniza]

Now, against the backdrop of aggravated relations with Russia, the Turkish authorities only have to regret their stinginess and slowness, the newspaper writes.

These are still flowers ... wait.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: cniza

These are still flowers ... wait.

The Turkish Navy has 14 submarines, all in service, this delay is not so significant for them.

[Lord of the Sith]

And they have old boats, and other surface ships, in general I am silent.

[donavi49]

How old are you talking about?

Their boats are just good, the legendary 209 Made in Germany.

4 boats of the most inflated sub-series T2 / 1400. 2003-2007 of release, with Harpoons.
4 boats older T / 1400 and not modernized, more noisy, 94-99 years of release.
5 boats of the oldest 1200, but 2 boats have already undergone modernization, received Harpoons, a new control system, new batteries, a number of measures to reduce noise.

Surface Fleet 2 MEKO frigate series:
1 series old with rotary mounts SI SPEROU (20 km range), gun, torpedoes, MZA, turntable, Harpoons - 4 ships.
2 new series with VPU MK41 and ESSM - at 50 km range, also 4 units.
the Oliver Perry series is old and transferable to training, but these are 8 ships with Standards and 2 helicopters each.
a new series of MIGELM corvettes - the same ESSM 21 missile, harpoons, torpedoes, gun, helicopter.
20 units mosquito fleet with harpoons.

[Denis Obukhov]

Quote: donavi49

How old are you talking about?

Their boats are just good, the legendary 209 Made in Germany.

4 boats of the most inflated sub-series T2 / 1400. 2003-2007 of release, with Harpoons.
4 boats older T / 1400 and not modernized, more noisy, 94-99 years of release.
5 boats of the oldest 1200, but 2 boats have already undergone modernization, received Harpoons, a new control system, new batteries, a number of measures to reduce noise.

Surface Fleet 2 MEKO frigate series:
1 series old with rotary mounts SI SPEROU (20 km range), gun, torpedoes, MZA, turntable, Harpoons - 4 ships.
2 new series with VPU MK41 and ESSM - at 50 km range, also 4 units.
the Oliver Perry series is old and transferable to training, but these are 8 ships with Standards and 2 helicopters each.
a new series of MIGELM corvettes - the same ESSM 21 missile, harpoons, torpedoes, gun, helicopter.
20 units mosquito fleet with harpoons.

The Turks have problems, you forgot to take into account the bastion and ball in the territory of Crimea and the peculiarities of calibers.

[kapitan92]

Underestimating the enemy leads to defeat, one of the great ones said. At the bottom of my answer I give a link comparing the Navy of the countries of the Black Sea region. Http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/zampolit00/post180246839/
"Better to be overlooked than not overlooked," as my battalion commander said.
(the link is true in 2012, but it does not matter), the balance has not changed.

[Secondly,]

Well, yes, everything is right on this link to you that those that others have told. There will be no wars of Russia with anyone. Because it is already on, we are all at the moment in the rear. The advanced ones know where the Caucasus and Ukraine are , Central Asia is swaying at this hour. Friends of 201, who say that they are preparing in Dushanbe, there is infa as soon as the snow falls from the passes, and this is March, it is expected to move from the side of Afghanistan. They don’t make a secret of this, so that there if something ssali. In principle, they did the same in the Donbass. Well, we are in Dushanbe, but the Turkmens and Uzbeks will not pull. So the brothers are such pies.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Sith Lord

And they have old boats, and other surface ships, in general I am silent.

you might think the BSF is breathing novelty

[venaya]

Russia "at this time began mass production of diesel-electric submarines of project 636.3 for the Black Sea Fleet"

They force us, our "partners" do not leave us other options, nothing can be done about it.

[bad]

sorry for the offtopic but here the video is fresh and interesting .. much more interesting than about the Turks .. Deciphered prophecy of Wangi: USA recognizes the superiority of Russia in 2040 // NTV.Ru
http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1578244/

[corn]

Quote: bad

USA recognizes the superiority of Russia in 2040 // NTV.Ru

I probably will not live. So I can’t check. I only have to believe, but I can’t either. Atheist. I can only give a Ukrainian proverb about who is rich in thoughts, but I won’t, so that I wouldn’t offend inadvertently.

[kapitan92]

Until 2040 it is necessary to survive!

[Corsair0304]

While the point is, our Black Sea Fleet will have a sufficient number of Varshavyanks to neutralize the Turkish fleet if anything. In general, according to the mind, you need to do so that they could not build a submarine and launch it into the water. It will be calmer.

[Stirbjorn]

Well, the Turks already have 8 submarines, quite modern + 6 old ones. At the Black Sea Fleet, I will remind you so far 2, but always in repair "Alrosa". So, even when all 6 of ours arrive at the Black Sea, the Turks will have an advantage, even without taking into account those under construction

[Rebus]

Well, you forgive me, but submarines do not fight with submarines ... What is the advantage if there is a good PLO?

[kapitan92]

Who told you that submarines do not fight submarines !? With the modern development of mine-torpedo weapons, the most powerful ASGs are fighting and how.
By the way, for your info: our main torpedo 53-65K has a range of 15km, and the shtatovskoy MK 48 (I do not take the latest mod.) 30-40km, depending on the speed of the torpedo.
Conclusion yourself do !!!!!!
Our "thick torpedo", or as the Americans called the "long arm", a range of 50 km, was removed from service by the Navy (to the delight of the states) after the tragedy with the Kursk nuclear submarine.

[aleks 62 next]

.... By the way, for your info: our main torpedo 53-65K has a range of 15km, and the shtatovskoy MK 48 (I do not take the latest mod.) 30-40km, depending on the speed of the torpedo.
Conclusion yourself do !!!!!! ...


... I'm afraid you have an outdated infa .... Recently there was an article on VO about our torpedoes .... No worse, and even with a number of characteristics it is better than Amerovskaya ...

[Denis Obukhov]

Quote: Corsair0304

While the point is, our Black Sea Fleet will have a sufficient number of Varshavyanks to neutralize the Turkish fleet if anything. In general, according to the mind, you need to do so that they could not build a submarine and launch it into the water. It will be calmer.

In fact, the Turks still have an advantage, though not a big one.

[dchegrinec]

Is they cooking in the boss’s office? Also in uniform, loafers! They will do the rest of the hull there. And when they are done, they can be scrapped, hopelessly out of date, like their tanks ..

[Vladimirets]

Quote: dchegrinec

Is they cooking in the boss’s office?

Is very similar.

[moskowit]

This is apparently a solemn bookmark, like the first stone. With the holder, the admiral ... Original ... The first joint or seam ...

[corn]

Quote: dchegrinec

Is they cooking in the boss’s office?

And cooks some kind of big pepper. And buttons of yellow metal all over the stomach, and potters with a golden ebb, and award blocks in several rows

[flyer]

This bookmark will not save .. Militarily, it will not play a role, and even if the economic war begins, so much less will not be completed ..

[Wolka]

what else, here we go there (in the World Cup) "Lunei" with "Eaglets", then let the Turks try to climb where they are not supposed to

[Dimon19661]

What difference does it make-how many boats Russia has on the Black Sea. If a serious disruption starts, this direction will be secondary, and the number of diesel-electric submarines will not matter much. In the event of a local conflict (it is unlikely that NATO will strike) Russia has weapons capable of remotely destroying the entire Turkish fleet .Russian armed forces are an order of magnitude superior to the Turkish army both quantitatively and in quality, and superiority in the Black Sea of ​​Turkey will not give anything, the time of agony will increase slightly. Something like this ...

[yuriy55]

Media: Turkey stayed with the laying of a new diesel-electric submarines for several years

When someone (in our case, Turkey) is unable to do without outside help, (meaning "the caring hand of Uncle Sam), this indicates a complete delay in development.
He would have to deal with Erdogan and use the geographical position for the most peaceful purposes, no (animals) are trying to raise his leg and mark our fence.

As for flowers, here are flowers and berries:

[V.ic]

Quote: yuriy55

try (animals) raise leg

...No, squat!

[Black Colonel]

But it’s interesting, this one, in a white welding suit (!!!), cannot make jambs with welding? And it’s a keel, and even a submarine. You never know what ...

[slaw14]

This keel is pre-welded and primed. For the sake of the admiral, a part was torn off for signature.

[T-73]

Yes, the zone of the welded joint is more than suspicious, and the paint as it did not burn out at the edges, they just poked it with an electrode at low current) and I am silent about the "suit", who knows in what robe the welder is cooking and does not hold a helmet with one hand , and the other hand, never, and even a white uniform is dressed ... as in zones at a nuclear power plant, which is doubly surprising))

[vobels]

Or they will cut it out with a grinder and brew it again, five years later, when the money is saved up.

[ayuric]

Yeah, and there behind him the robot is standing in a dark robe and holding the admiral’s handle, so as not to shake and not to mess up the jambs.

[am808s]

This is their main specialist in welding such with golden shoulder straps. The mask closed and peeps behind the arc from the side after this joint howled all night for sure!

[Black Colonel]

In the morning, rather, healed the eyes with urine. Not otherwise.

[T-73]

2020 is considered the earliest completion date.

I don’t know what kind of technical problems the Turks have, the German project is quite old, but it will not be put up for sale. Money problems and we will exacerbate them. 2020? Oh well. What are you going to scare? The filling is Turkish, and not to say that the way.

The German-Turkish co-production version, which uses 80% of the systems developed and produced in Turkey (including the Turkish C4ISTAR system)

it’s from available sources, nothing great, it’s already possible not to build - money down the drain

[tinibar]

Quote: saturn.mmm

Quote: cniza

These are still flowers ... wait.

The Turkish Navy has 14 submarines, all in service, this delay is not so significant for them.

Our delay for decades, alas ...