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Turkish media: because of the downed aircraft, Russia will try to "drive Turkey into a corner"

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Last week, Turkish publications continued to write about the reaction of Moscow to the downed Su-24 bomber, simultaneously suggesting what else Russia could answer to Turkey, reports RIA News.


Turkish media: because of the downed aircraft, Russia will try to "drive Turkey into a corner"


“Russia will try to inflame the crisis in Turkey by cooperating with recognized terrorist organizations in the country: the Kurdistan Workers’ Party and the Jümaat Gulen, ”suggested the pro-government Akşam and Star. “On the wreckage of a downed aircraft, Russia will do everything possible to drive Turkey into a corner, not only in foreign but also in domestic policy.”

In addition, the publication accused the Russian Federation and Syria of buying contraband oil from terrorists DAISH. Similar accusations against Erdogan were called by the media “impudent lies”.

Journalists called for “decisive containment of Russia,” and its actions in Syria were called “the attack of a typical oil state”, with which “it is useless to negotiate.”

One of them announced the reaction of Russia to the downed aircraft "childishly furious."

A columnist for Radikal tried to justify Turkey’s actions and found positive consequences for the country. According to him, “the most important outcome was the support that NATO allies have provided Ankara.”

At the beginning of the week, the Dünya edition also found the positive consequences of the incident, but after a few days, its tone changed. It turned out that the consequences of the conflict hit the Turkish economy very painfully.

“Turkey cannot sacrifice the Russian market, which was so hard to conquer. Turkish politicians are already working to mitigate the Russian-Turkish crisis, ”one of the latest articles says.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 16 December 2015 11: 42
    42
    The Turkish people as a whole do not have a complaint, but Erdogan must be driven into a corner, and even put on his knees.
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    2. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 16 December 2015 11: 45
      21
      They are trying to save face and transfer the arrows to others. Nothing new. It's even boring. "Turkish politicians are already working to soften the Russian-Turkish crisis." They would have thought of something more interesting.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 16 December 2015 12: 00
        57
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Nothing new. Even boring. Would have thought more interesting.

        When two years ago I wrote that I didn’t have such a good attitude towards Turkey with their tourism, when I said that the Turk smiles and among my own people he speaks contemptuously at the Russians .... Yes, I said a lot, I also spoke about "Natasha" )))
        People with such enthusiasm minus lol it would be interesting to hear them now.
        Okay, the guys from Azerbaijan defended the Turks (by the way, there are fewer of them on the site), so others boasted that they were buying real estate in Istanbul. The people are still manageable like a herd, and the memory is short, but show the "candy" in a minute they will write it down to friends ... Personally, I remember who and how helped terrorists in the Caucasus, who provided sponsorship, who treated them, forged / made documents if necessary sent to Germany for treatment ...
        1. Truth
          Truth 16 December 2015 12: 28
          +8
          Whatever versions, the Turks did not put forward on this topic, but Vovkin's question: “Why did you do this?” Remained unanswered.
          But this is the whole snag - doing everything that comes into your head, and not answering the questions asked, require understanding and respect for yourself ...
          And Vovka is a hammer! For the first time I saw how at the state level, you can silently send "nah ...".
          1. Very old
            Very old 16 December 2015 12: 49
            10
            And you and Vovka, after the bathhouse, deigned to eat vodka, patted him on the shoulder, they say, well done, your boyfriend drinks
            1. Truth
              Truth 16 December 2015 12: 57
              +4
              Quote: Very old
              And you and Vovka, after the bathhouse, deigned to eat vodka

              Why is there such a conviction that in order to name a person by name, you must take a bath with him in a bathhouse and enjoy vodka?
              Actually, I often call him Tsar Vladimir, somehow he definitely sounds in Russian.
              1. Very old
                Very old 16 December 2015 14: 29
                +5
                Quote: Truth
                Quote: Very old
                And you and Vovka, after the bathhouse, deigned to eat vodka

                Why is there such a conviction that in order to name a person by name, it sounds.


                By name - YES

                But familiarity smacks of something unhealthy

                Accept, and more ... hi
                I will not name the Supreme Commander-in-chief either by the tsar or by the Tsar
                1. Truth
                  Truth 16 December 2015 15: 23
                  -3
                  Quote: Very old
                  But familiarity smacks of something unhealthy

                  I will not argue who and how he understands and appreciates ...
                  Only sincerely respecting a person, calling him affectionately by name, can one fit into all the grave ...
                  And on the other hand, officially by name and patronymic, faithfully looking into his eyes, betraying and selling him ...
                  The important thing is important: - Do you have that same, true love for the Motherland, and is there that faith and respect for the one who now stands for this Motherland?

                  ps I see no reason to argue, as I see it, the understanding is basically the same for us.
            2. lelikas
              lelikas 16 December 2015 14: 05
              +6
              The office reads all;)
              1. Truth
                Truth 16 December 2015 15: 29
                -1
                Someone would argue! Here is my comment from the forum.
                Posted: 10 November
                The usefulness of the VO site is undeniable, I suspect that the pages with comments scroll through not only the registered team, but also visitors in the form of state and special services (and there is nothing bad here).

                Perhaps it seemed to me, but somehow noticed that after the publication of an article or some sensible, intelligible commentary on a hot topic, a week or two later, something painfully familiar but already undertaken as authorities by state authorities slipped into the official media . services or intelligence services actions.
        2. FiremamRescueS
          FiremamRescueS 16 December 2015 13: 32
          +1
          The guys from Ayzerbajan)))) then let's listen to what the guys from Armenia will say)))
        3. Yeraz
          Yeraz 16 December 2015 14: 46
          +5
          Quote: Scoun
          Okay, guys from Azerbaijan defended the Turks (by the way, there was something less on the site)

          Previously, there was a contingent with a level with which it was possible to conduct a discussion. Right now 1 other opinion is 200 minuses)))
      2. Vita vko
        Vita vko 16 December 2015 12: 15
        +7
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Would have thought more interesting.

        I’m sure that in a couple of months the information in the Turkish media will already be full, that the Russian plane was shot down either by order of the Americans or by the American pilots who are deployed at the Turkish air base.
      3. Rostov Papa
        Rostov Papa 16 December 2015 12: 15
        10
        Turkish politicians are already working to mitigate the Russian-Turkish crisis. ”
        A very belated reaction, before it was necessary to think before waking the Russian bear. Now not only politicians, whose reaction we have all seen, but also the Turkish "people" will receive a response. Why didn't the Turkish authorities arrest the Turkish citizen "wolf" who killed our pilot in front of the camera? It would be at least small, but a step towards a meeting. And about the Turkish "people" I can only say one thing, after the downed plane, Erdogan's rating rose sharply, plus the deathly silence of the Turkish community in Russia.
        Now it's too late, the payback will be ...
      4. Lukich
        Lukich 16 December 2015 13: 09
        +2
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Trying to save face and turn arrows on others. Nothing new.

        typical teachers policy because of a large puddle
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 16 December 2015 11: 47
      19
      Erdogan does not get off with rotten tomatoes to be continued as they say ...
      1. Vend
        Vend 16 December 2015 11: 52
        20
        What did they expect? That Russia will rub off and continue its former relationship? You had to think with your head, and not with another place. The Turkish people should be asked from Erdogan, and not to make a claim to Russia. How would Turkey react if Russia shot down their plane? Would you also get lost? I think no. A screech would stand to heaven. For one violation of the border, the visigoth stood such that it was audible on the other side of the Black Sea.
    4. Nick
      Nick 16 December 2015 11: 52
      +5
      Quote: avvg
      The Turkish people as a whole do not have a complaint, but Erdogan must be driven into a corner, and even put on his knees.

      Yes, in fact, Erdogan drives himself into a corner. Russia only gives an answer to his reckless actions.
      1. Grbear
        Grbear 16 December 2015 12: 20
        10
        Quote: Nick
        Quote: avvg
        The Turkish people as a whole do not have a complaint, but Erdogan must be driven into a corner, and even put on his knees.

        Yes, in fact, Erdogan drives himself into a corner. Russia only gives an answer to his reckless actions.

        Gentlemen, what are you talking about? Turkish people ... laughing About half of the capable population (people) support the idea of ​​the Great Port, but only at the expense of others. They themselves are not ready to put their wallets on the "altar of the fatherland". Therefore, they will scream about the great Turkey and try to "get out" from the consequences of the imperial step. But none of them rejects these ambitions, which means that Erdogan is still "driving". hi
        1. Alibekulu
          Alibekulu 16 December 2015 13: 36
          -4
          Quote: GrBear
          Gentlemen, what are you talking about? The Turkish people ... About half of the capable population (people) support the idea of ​​the Great Port, but only at the expense of others. They themselves are not ready to put their wallets on the "altar of the fatherland". Therefore, they will scream about the great Turkey and try to "get out" from the consequences of the imperial step. But none of them rejects these ambitions, which means that Erdogan is still "driving".
          And if so ..?! repeat
          Gentlemen, what are you talking about? The Russian people ... About half of the capable population (people) support the idea of ​​Great Russia, but only at the expense of others. They themselves are not ready to put their wallets on the "altar of the fatherland". Therefore, they will scream about the great Russia and try to "get out" from the consequences of the imperial step. But none of them rejects these ambitions, which means that Putin is still "driving"
    5. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 16 December 2015 11: 56
      +4
      Quote: avvg
      ... in general, we have no complaint ...

      - but on that "guano", in which our current relations found themselves, you cannot build anything worthwhile. Everything will stink rotten.
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 16 December 2015 12: 04
        +1
        Well, gloating a bit? laughing
        Well, who is to blame that Erdogan decided to get into trouble ... no, not in the corner, in the ass. Here and shake now externally and internally.
        After all, in fact, nothing has been turned on yet, and you have crap one's pants.
        And if in full? With the shutdown of energy? laughing
        That's it, your domestic policy will begin! As far as I know, the Turks are a very, very patient people.
    6. good7
      good7 16 December 2015 12: 08
      +3
      What exactly do you mean by the Turkish people? There are no complaints against the Kurds, there are no complaints against the Armenians and Greeks who survived there, but there are lovers of gray wolves!
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 16 December 2015 12: 35
        0
        Quote: good7

        What exactly do you mean by the Turkish people? There are no complaints against the Kurds, there are no complaints against the Armenians and Greeks who survived there, but there are lovers of gray wolves!
        Not you, but you. We in the gateway didn’t think about them.
        I have nothing against the people. It is also written there, they do not differ in patience. And if they freeze they will ask why.
    7. Amurets
      Amurets 16 December 2015 12: 10
      +4
      Quote: avvg
      The Turkish people as a whole do not have a complaint, but Erdogan must be driven into a corner, and even put on his knees.

      Let the Dardanelles, Bosporus and Constantinople straits be surrendered to Russian jurisdiction. Then we will not have any complaints.
    8. revnagan
      revnagan 16 December 2015 12: 19
      0
      Quote: avvg
      Erdogan must be accurately cornered, d

      ... in the "cock".
    9. Aroma77
      Aroma77 16 December 2015 12: 33
      +4
      At one time, the United States and other satilites said the same about Russia, we respect you people, but Putin is your "evil" and we are introducing sanctions. Therefore, pressing Turkey down with sanctions, whether we want it or not, we infringe primarily on ordinary people whose services and production are directly or indirectly connected with Russia. Therefore, judging by our experience, the people will rally around Erdogan, and whether we like it or not, the Turkish people will have claims to us!
    10. marlin1203
      marlin1203 16 December 2015 12: 36
      +6
      Turkish politicians can work at least around the clock to "soften". Our guys cannot be returned and their murder will forever remain a mean "stab in the back." And why should we continue to trade profitable with such authorities? We can do without their vegetables, resorts and consumer goods. There will be those who want to replace, and now let the Turks look for whom their goods with services in such quantities and at such a price "sell".
    11. R-22
      R-22 16 December 2015 12: 40
      +7
      Yes, the Turkish people also have no complaints to us, but they can easily come with a scimitar, so what are the complaints? In the old days they said: - in Turkey, only a child was born, and already a Turk ...
      1. Extraneous
        Extraneous 16 December 2015 16: 00
        +1
        According to Turkish law, there is only one nationality - Turks. Anyone who has Turkish citizenship also has an entry in their passport: "Turk", regardless of their real nationality.
        Actually, the struggle of the Turkish Kurds at the time began precisely because of this column. They wanted to include in the passport data a definition of real belonging to an ethnic group. And then it’s clear.
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 16 December 2015 22: 00
        0
        Quote: R-22
        Yes, the Turkish people also have no complaints to us, but they can easily come with a scimitar


        A hundred and fifty years ago, one wise old Bulgarian put it this way: "There is no better neighbor than the Turks - but only until they call him under the green banner of the Prophet ...


        The Russians who survived the Andijan massacre were particularly struck by the fact that their Uzbek neighbors, with whom they had lived soul to soul for 20 years, were brutally murdered ...
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  2. DMoroz
    DMoroz 16 December 2015 11: 42
    +6
    "drive Turkey into a corner"
    It is a mistake to write correctly simply "bend Turkey" ... Into a ram's horn, for example
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 16 December 2015 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: DMoroz
      It's a mistake to write correctly, just "bend Turkey" ...

      Well, why, you can drive Turkey into a corner. Cock.
    2. Altona
      Altona 16 December 2015 12: 01
      +2
      Quote: DMoroz
      It is a mistake to write correctly simply "bend Turkey" ... Into a ram's horn, for example

      -----------------------
      The corner is still too spacious, it is necessary to drive under a stool, under a rug or in general under a baseboard for such a thing.
  3. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 16 December 2015 11: 43
    +6
    Turks for a penny work out. First money, then patriotism.
  4. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 16 December 2015 11: 43
    13
    Russia has nothing more to do as soon as Turkey is driven through the corners. You’ll climb into a corner without our tourists and markets.
  5. Metallurgist
    Metallurgist 16 December 2015 11: 45
    +6
    Turkey was driven into a corner by "NATO partners", and read - the United States.
    So the claim is not addressed.
    1. good7
      good7 16 December 2015 12: 11
      +5
      Even at the address - Turkey is the mistress of fascist Germany. Stalin did not roll it in vain!
  6. Decathlon
    Decathlon 16 December 2015 11: 46
    +6
    "On the wreckage of the downed plane, Russia will do everything possible to drive Turkey into a corner not only in foreign but also in domestic policy"
    YES !!! yes Did you have any other predictions ?!
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 16 December 2015 11: 52
      +7
      ..... On the wreckage of a downed plane, Russia will do everything possible to drive Turkey into a corner, not only in foreign but also in domestic politics. ”
      YES !!! yes Did you have any other predictions?! ...

      .... They write about it and say that it seems like nothing terrible happened .... Think - well, they shot down a plane, think - well, they killed two Russians .... And what did they want in return ????? .... Buns and Chocolate ???? .... request
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 December 2015 11: 46
    +4
    And what else remains to be done by the Turkish pro-government media? Only build a good face with a bad game.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 16 December 2015 11: 54
      +4
      Quote: article
      “Russia will try to ignite the crisis inside Turkey by cooperating with the terrorist organizations recognized in the country: the Kurdistan Workers' Party and Jamaat Gulen

      Or maybe there is some truth in this?
      It’s time for us to influence the regimes that are neighboring with us so that people friendly to our country are elected there. For example, if we didn’t let the regimes of Yaytsenyuk, Avakov, Tyagnibog come to power in Ukraine and then Poroshenko, you would now see there wouldn’t be anything there and in a few years Ukraine would voluntarily become part of Russia. Or, in Georgia, Saakashvili would not have been strengthened and there would have been no events in South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
      1. Extraneous
        Extraneous 16 December 2015 16: 11
        0
        If you remember who was in power in Russia then, then it makes no sense to ask questions about Georgia and Ukraine. We are still financially controlled by the states. And as long as this is the case, there will be no big shifts in domestic politics. At that time, Russia as a state simply did not exist. The forces behind Putin's back essentially saved Russia from a total cut by making a "soft" coup d'etat. But the struggle within our elites is still going on, and quite tough. I think - Putin is only a transitional stage before the coming of the dictator, who will have to rebuild the entire internal structure of power in the country. Otherwise, Russia will end.
  8. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 16 December 2015 11: 46
    16
    We’ll not only drive them into a corner, but also put them on our knees
  9. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 16 December 2015 11: 47
    +6
    Turkish media: because of the downed aircraft, Russia will try to "drive Turkey into a corner"

    And why only drive it? .. It also needs to be put on salt ... And it would not hurt to think about such a wonderful event in my opinion as the partition of Turkey. For too long, the Turks own Greek lands for example ... Yes, and the Armenians also have claims to them ... I'm not talking about the Kurds ...
    1. Windy
      Windy 16 December 2015 11: 52
      0
      In my opinion, the Turkish media made a mistake in the wording, it will be right: Russia will drive Turkey into a corner because of a downed plane.
  10. serg1970
    serg1970 16 December 2015 11: 51
    +2
    What else should Turkish media write? You don’t feel like going to jail.
  11. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 16 December 2015 11: 54
    +2
    I am furious, just before the nuclear tear of the back, action and perception in the spirit of noble girls. No, guys, you attacked vilely, striking in the back, and now some grudges that begin to strike back?
    Here's how not to believe the joke that the Turks have three problems ...
  12. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 16 December 2015 11: 58
    0
    If the Turks were not Islamists, but Erdogan was frostbitten, Turkey could easily agree with Syria and Russia that the Turkemans would gain autonomy or even become part of Turkey (the value of these small mountains is not high). I am sure Russia would not even interfere in the purchase of oil from ISIS through the Kurds. Erdogan could easily find common ground with Syrian Kurds as with Iraqi Kurds on the basis of oil.
    Instead, Erdogan decided to help the Arab Islamists by betraying both the Turks and the Kurds (which make up many percent of the nation). Could just become adored by the Kurds as a person who contributed to statehood. I would gradually oust the Turkish Kurds into these new formations, as I once ousted the Armenians ...

    This is what happens when, instead of politics, a person wages a personal war. In any case, oil would flow to Turkey (not to Qatar and the Saudis send it).
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 December 2015 14: 52
      +1
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      Instead, Erdogan decided to help the Arab Islamists betraying both Turks and Kurds

      Young people were mostly against it. But media hysteria, started by the Palestinian brothers whom the Jews are destroying, then spread to Asaad, a tyrant destroying peaceful people. A terrible force in the media. But then, everything becomes clear, but the step has already been taken. Turkey in the person of Erdogan made a point of no return when Assad wrote to the enemies.
      Young people are mostly interested in not dismantling the Arabs between themselves and the Kurds with them. He is more interested in the Turkic moment.
      1. KG_patriot_last
        KG_patriot_last 16 December 2015 15: 50
        +1
        In this easy game, Turkey could not only solve the Kurdish and Turkeman issue, but could even join the EU as a full member, playing on the fear of the European Union of migrants from the Middle East.
        And if we take into account the gas pipe from Russia (Greece would sit tightly on this needle and would not rock it anymore) and the oil pipe from Kurdistan (which would squeeze part of the fields from Iraq and Syria by definition) - in general, it would take on itself the role of no less than Germany in the EU.

        And why did you have to carry chestnuts with your own hands and climb to fight? Why are these miserable illegal tankers when you can officially pipe after the war?

        After all, Russia asked directly at first - the list of terrorists and the list of the right guys. Turkey could calmly stop and outplay for non-Muslim brothers. Until the moment the attack aircraft was shot down.

        Follows the path "Iran number 2". The "Shah" was turned down, and tough confrontations with the "Jews" will soon begin. On the basis of leadership among the "Islamic world". Although it would seem that there is no practical benefit from this.

        I quarreled with Israel because of the boat, with Russia because of the plane, with Iraq because of arrogance, with Syria because of several mountains ... This is not a politician, but some kind of schoolboy ...
    2. Extraneous
      Extraneous 16 December 2015 16: 32
      +1
      Conflict with Turkey was inevitable. The only way to stop the slaughter in Syria is to block the supply channels. Turks are the main channel. Erdogan was led to power long and hard. Under him, long before he came to power, the army was redone, removing Ataturk's followers from it. After coming to power, he immediately removed the article of the constitution, which ordered the army to monitor the state of affairs in the foreign and domestic policy of Turkey and, if necessary, to carry out a military coup with the establishment of a military dictatorship for up to two years.
      Anyone who considers Erdogan an independent player is very mistaken.
      Turks have the same attitude towards Kurds as Muscovites towards "persons of Caucasian nationality." This is not a question of politics, but a question of interethnic relations. Erdogan's position on the Kurdish issue has strong support among the general population. And here he is on horseback. In fact, everything Erdogan does is in line with the internal needs of the Turks and their mentality. In this they are no different from other post-imperial states. And from us as well.
  13. Signaller
    Signaller 16 December 2015 11: 59
    +1
    And sometimes you just need to turn on your head. The Turkish authorities have relaxed, they think it will do. It won't do. You will not be spoiled with us. And the "corral" is our Russian occupation, beloved, as well as the game on the "parents' nerves" - mastered from the cradle by the entire Russian people
  14. ARES623
    ARES623 16 December 2015 12: 05
    +2
    All Turkish policy lately, and in earlier times no less, has been directed against Russia. Turks, in general, as a business partner are difficult, except for their own benefits they see nothing, but they see very briefly. They can't work long-term. Su-24 is that straw that "broke the back of a camel", as they say, has accumulated. And Erdogan just played too much. He did not understand that raising his shabby tail against the Russian Army, he did not just quarrel with the Russian Federation, he became an enemy of the Russian people, and this is very serious. Erdogan himself got into the "corner" and now does not know how to play the situation back.
  15. Obstructia
    Obstructia 16 December 2015 12: 06
    +1
    What did they expect? Ovation? So even they were - from bluish positioners and liberals.
  16. Masya masya
    Masya masya 16 December 2015 12: 11
    +4
    "MOSCOW, Dec 16 - RIA Novosti. The rhetoric of Turkey, which followed the incident with the downed Russian bomber, closed the opportunity for constructive dialogue with Russia, said Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20151216/1342875109.html#ixzz3uTO5mZJF "
    Sami climbed into this corner!
  17. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 16 December 2015 12: 12
    +3
    This is only the beginning: it is necessary to wait until the fall - our tourists will go to Crimea, money will remain in the country. The Turks kept the entire coast on ours (he himself rested there: 90-95% of the hotel guests are Russians), plus airports and airlines will burn out without load. What would our pilot and marine remember for a lifetime. And Erdogan was not really driven, butуwhether in a corner.
  18. patriot75
    patriot75 16 December 2015 12: 12
    +3
    They remind me of Ukrainians from an anecdote "And why are we?"
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 16 December 2015 22: 22
      0
      rather, even from another joke:

      - Be cursed, Judah!
      - Petro, quietly, having formed (= offended)?
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  20. individual
    individual 16 December 2015 12: 14
    +2
    Turkey will pay for its downed Su-24 with its economy.
  21. Wajra-3
    Wajra-3 16 December 2015 12: 14
    +1
    Well, so what's the matter? Did you screw up? Sorry! Pay money! And swear on faithful friendship and cooperation!
    Put everything on the Americans! They are far away, Russia is nearby! Eat something from her hand ...
  22. teron
    teron 16 December 2015 12: 17
    +1
    "On the wreckage of the downed plane, Russia will do everything possible to drive Turkey into a corner, not only in foreign but also in domestic policy."

    Something I do not understand? Should we apologize for our plane? Downed by Turkey. What other reaction did they expect? Like brothers, by God.
  23. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 16 December 2015 12: 17
    +2
    What the Turks say is white noise. A downed plane is a test of us for lice. We didn’t retreat, so on the other side of the Northern Hemisphere they will be brained and come up with a new test for us. Get ready, friends. The needle in the egg, and the egg in the United States, break, and we will be happy.
  24. V.ic
    V.ic 16 December 2015 12: 20
    +3
    They would go ... you know WHERE. She died so died! Let them kiss themselves in the "chocolate hole", let's see how they do it.
  25. Uruska
    Uruska 16 December 2015 12: 25
    0
    Let the Turks throw Erdogan. Then they will replace the government. And let's see if it's worth talking to them!
  26. Prutkov
    Prutkov 16 December 2015 12: 27
    +3
    Russia has an interesting trump card in the "Syrian game" - "Erdogan must leave" ...
    1. Sly
      Sly 16 December 2015 12: 48
      0
      Quote: Rods
      Russia has an interesting trump card in the "Syrian game" - "Erdogan must leave" ...

      not as cool as "Assad must leave", so we do not exchange)
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 16 December 2015 13: 18
      0
      We are soldiers on field marshals, not me!

      I.V. Stalin
      wink
  27. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 16 December 2015 12: 29
    +4
    Quote: avvg
    We have no complaints to the Turkish people as a whole,


    Do not talk nonsense. This Turkish people of yours have already come to our land with fire and sword almost a dozen times, and they say they will come from above to kill and destroy it. I do not care deeply what will happen to Turkey and its people, the main thing for me is that everything is in order with our people. They, in turn, wanted to spoil what will happen to us, they have their own shirt closer to the body. Therefore, think with your head before writing such nonsense.
  28. tolancop
    tolancop 16 December 2015 12: 30
    +4
    The question is incorrect in principle. The downed SU-24 is not the reason for the deterioration of relations, but only the trigger. The situation is ripe, and if there was no downed plane, something else would have arisen. Maybe a little later, but the essence does not change. IMHO, behind external friendly manifestations, the cauldron of problems was close to the boiling point. What, Turkish intelligence has not been working against Russia lately? She worked without reducing her activity, it was just not accepted to write about it. Or, in other matters, the Turks were for Russia with their hearts wide open? Uh-huh !!! Rather with a fig in your pocket.
    I have a feeling that after the Turks destroyed our plane, a lot of people in Russia breathed a sigh of relief ... Now you can act openly.
  29. afrikanez
    afrikanez 16 December 2015 12: 34
    0
    It is just necessary to morally destroy all Turkish power (Erdogan and others like him), so that others would not be accustomed. In general, it is high time to be afraid of all that. what Western states will try to do. Become stronger!
  30. press officer
    press officer 16 December 2015 12: 34
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    Quote: Decathlon
    "On the wreckage of the downed plane, Russia will do everything possible to drive Turkey into a corner not only in foreign but also in domestic policy"
    YES !!! yes Did you have any other predictions ?!


    Yeah! WE ARE SO BAD! yes Cho Outskirts decided to repeat? wassat "The publications accused Russia and Syria of buying contraband oil from the terrorists of Daesh. belay belay belay Similar accusations against Erdogan were called by the media a "blatant lie." belay
    WE ARE TURNED OUT !!!! ALL! RUN! EXTINGUISHED! We buy oil from the IG, drive it into our pipes, and then sell it to the whole world (including Turkey)? repeat FUCK YES !!! good And Syria is there too! Repeat after us! repeat IS her oil pumping on its territory is transported to Turkey, and the Syrian valiant army takes it from the unfortunate terrorists and carries it back to itself and drains it back to the same place where it was extracted?! CLASS! good EVERYTHING IS IT AND IT WAS! yes STILL!!! bully
    CHO DUCKS DURYA WITH TURKS SHARE? wassat fool
  31. pts-m
    pts-m 16 December 2015 12: 42
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    after all that has happened, you can say ... and the Turks have recently been told a word ... high on bullshit from your corner.
  32. Urals
    Urals 16 December 2015 12: 43
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    One of them declared the reaction of Russia to the downed plane “childishly furious” ..... Do they really not understand that people died? Russian people have to answer for this. There will be no softening rhetoric at this stage.
  33. kizhe
    kizhe 16 December 2015 12: 45
    +1
    It is simply amazing how such not far-sighted people like Erdogan manage to occupy key positions in power. After all, if he had figured out in time to apologize for the downed SU-24, sprinkle ashes on his head, spin a snake in a frying pan and the consequences might not be so serious for the whole of Turkey. Of course, they would not pat on the head, but as a result the sentence would be softer. As the saying goes: "The sword does not cut a guilty head." On the other hand, this ruler showed his true colors in time. We could have received Ukraine-2 with a piece of our oil pipeline on their territory.
  34. kapitan92
    kapitan92 16 December 2015 12: 46
    +4
    There their Basurmans, there, but only very diplomatically, skillfully and competently!
    They will answer for Constantinople! smile
  35. cte-power
    cte-power 16 December 2015 12: 59
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    Quote: Truth
    Whatever versions, the Turks did not put forward on this topic, but Vovkin's question: “Why did you do this?” Remained unanswered.
    But this is the whole snag - doing everything that comes into your head, and not answering the questions asked, require understanding and respect for yourself ...
    And Vovka is a hammer! For the first time I saw how at the state level, you can silently send "nah ...".



    minus for "Vovka"
  36. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 December 2015 13: 00
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    The Turkish children have nothing more to say! They collect all sorts of nonsense. You don’t even need to answer for this. They did a dirty trick, let them answer if they don’t want to admit their mistakes. Any near-minded person can say any heresy.
  37. VP
    VP 16 December 2015 13: 03
    +1
    Quote: avvg
    We have no complaints to the Turkish people as a whole,

    We have
  38. kapitan92
    kapitan92 16 December 2015 13: 07
    +4
    It's nice when ours quickly learn to work!
    Link: https://rns.online/news/2015/12/16/Rossiya-kupila-u-Turtsii-neskolko-korablei-dl
    ya-podderzhki-voennoi-operatsii-v-Sirii /
  39. Woodman
    Woodman 16 December 2015 13: 44
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    It seems that Turkey has already begun to have serious problems in the economy, otherwise there would not have been such conversations, but Russia has not yet seriously taken up them ...
  40. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x 16 December 2015 13: 45
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    "the positive consequences of the incident for the country. According to him," the most important result was the support that NATO allies have provided to Ankara. "

    shit eyes do not peck! only suck ...
  41. Raskolnik
    Raskolnik 16 December 2015 14: 03
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    Quote: FiremamRescueS
    The guys from Ayzerbajan)))) then let's listen to what the guys from Armenia will say)))

    Roughly "Այս Թուրըերը պարզապես ****** ***** *** ***** ***** **** ** ****** *** ** **** * * ***** * ** **** !!!!!!!!! " laughing
  42. X Y Z
    X Y Z 16 December 2015 14: 14
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    The policy in the style of "We love you and are friends with you. Forget about your failed pilots and we will continue to be friends" is so stupid and childish that it reduces the people who carried it out to the level of either ignorant or overweight. She completely ignores the Russian mentality and casts doubts about the sanity of the Turkish elites.
  43. Roust
    Roust 16 December 2015 15: 08
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    It is necessary to beat in response strongly, incurably, so that others are not discouraged.
  44. bumerang.
    bumerang. 16 December 2015 15: 12
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    Countless Turkish fishing vessels were caught in the Black Sea and no one killed them for violating the border. There is no forgiveness to those who gave the order to kill the Russian pilots, well, they would have forced them to land, otherwise they would kill in such a cruel way. Well, I do not believe that the gray wolves and HaberTurk TV came to be there by accident.
    If the journalists always sat there and waited for something interesting to be filmed, then they should have had footage from those places before the Su24 event, and if there were no such materials, then the journalists were lying and it was planned.
    It is necessary to drive not into a corner, but into the ground and the assistants of Erdogan.
  45. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 16 December 2015 18: 10
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    Well, these are Turkish journalists. Stood in January 2011 in Izmir at anchor awaiting command from the shipping company (Russia-Flag). The city is surrounded on all sides by mountains in the bay. So from the windows of high-rise buildings, pipes sticking out about "burzhuekas" and the whole city (when there was no wind, they stood for 11 days) was in smog (like Beijing now). And so not only there. Where can you go without our gas? Türkic-speaking RUSSIAN captain-Bashkirin Fanis (my name is translated from Greek as LIGHTHOUSE, this is as if to spite the Turks from me and from my parents who called me that).