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Media: Russian air group in Syria replenished with Mi-35M helicopters

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In a report on RT channel from Khmeimim airbase dated December 11, military experts in one of the vehicles identified the latest modification of the famous "flying tank"- Mi-35M. This suggests that the Russian air group in Syria was replenished not only with fighter-bombers, but also with new combat helicopters, writes Messenger of Mordovia.


Media: Russian air group in Syria replenished with Mi-35M helicopters


The publication notes that “the characteristic difference between the Mi-35M and the Mi-24 is an X-shaped tail rotor and a“ ball ”with a sight-sight station located in front of it”.

According to the Ministry of Defense, “Mi-35М helicopters are designed to destroy armored vehicles and enemy personnel, fire support for motorized rifle and tank units, drop troops, as well as transport cargo in the cabin and on an external suspension.”

"Herald" notes that "depending on the tasks performed, helicopters can be equipped with anti-tank guided missiles" Sturm-V ", unguided C-8 and C-24 missiles, cannon, bomb and mine weapons."

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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 14 December 2015 13: 35
    11
    a good thing to exclude from the list of oxygen consumers of all sorts of pro-American scumbags there ...
    1. hedgehog in the fog
      hedgehog in the fog 14 December 2015 13: 49
      27
      because all the same, what mi 24 potential did you have when creating, if helicopters are still being created on its base that meet all modern requirements, great designers, geniuses of their time soldier
      1. REVOCOM
        REVOCOM 14 December 2015 15: 56
        +3
        Quote: hedgehog in the fog
        because all the same, what mi 24 potential did you have when creating

        All currently launched combat aircraft are modernization of Soviet models.
        1. iouris
          iouris 14 December 2015 16: 38
          +1
          If you want to create an unimprovable construction, you must use it. But the elemental base of the equipment and its technical specifications and operational characteristics have advanced significantly.
      2. Genry
        Genry 14 December 2015 16: 10
        0
        Mi-35 is an export version of the Mi-24.
        This is a universal helicopter.
        Purely combat it is Mi-28 or Ka-52.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 14 December 2015 16: 53
          +1
          Quote: Genry
          Mi-35 is an export version of the Mi-24.

          Not export, but modernized. Export Mi-25.
          1. gross kaput
            gross kaput 14 December 2015 17: 15
            0
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Not export, but modernized. Export Mi-25.

            MI - 25 export version of MI-24D, MI-35 export version of MI-24V, MI-35M export version of MI-24VP.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 14 December 2015 21: 23
              0
              Quote: gross kaput
              MI-35 export version of MI-24V, MI-35M export version of MI-24VP.

              Tell me, are Mi-35s arriving at our aircraft under the same name? Yes, under the same. Then why is the term "export" so persistently promoted? request
              1. gross kaput
                gross kaput 15 December 2015 10: 44
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Then why is the term "export" so persistently promoted?

                Because until 2011 two almost identical helicopters were produced in parallel, but under different names, the internal MI-24VM, MI-24VP and export MI-35M in 2011, as I understand it, if you correct the experts, switch to the new designations MI-24VM to name exclusively previously released helicopters that have undergone modernization, and the name of the newly manufactured ones has led to the common denominator of MI-35M.
    2. Proxima
      Proxima 14 December 2015 13: 59
      +7
      This is nothing more than a deep modernization of the famous "Crocodile". A station wagon helicopter is also an armored vehicle killer, infantry fire support, transporter, orderly, and so on. It will be interesting to look at this "bird" in action.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 14 December 2015 14: 10
        +1
        Me personally, Mi-35M is not very impressive. In fact, this is still the same Crocodile, only with a new propeller and gun, but this does not change the essence. But the essence is that on hovering a helicopter eats up a resource of engines terribly fast, a vertical take-off is not a strong point, an amphibious cockpit is in fact a dead load, but there's nothing to say about avionics.
        1. Proxima
          Proxima 14 December 2015 14: 34
          +2
          Quote: Basarev
          Me personally, Mi-35M is not very impressive. In fact, this is still the same Crocodile, only with a new propeller and gun, but this does not change the essence. But the essence is that on hovering a helicopter eats up a resource of engines terribly fast, a vertical take-off is not a strong point, an amphibious cockpit is in fact a dead load, but there's nothing to say about avionics.

          I agree with you. But nothing can be done about it - it is a payment for its universality. I am most interested in whether a successful upgrade or not. We sold 10 helicopters of this type to Venezuela, 12 to Brazil. Wait and see.
          1. Yars
            Yars 14 December 2015 15: 08
            +7
            Quote: Proxima
            Quote: Basarev
            Me personally, Mi-35M is not very impressive. In fact, this is still the same Crocodile, only with a new propeller and gun, but this does not change the essence. But the essence is that on hovering a helicopter eats up a resource of engines terribly fast, a vertical take-off is not a strong point, an amphibious cockpit is in fact a dead load, but there's nothing to say about avionics.

            I agree with you. But nothing can be done about it - it is a payment for its universality. I am most interested in whether a successful upgrade or not. We sold 10 helicopters of this type to Venezuela, 12 to Brazil. Wait and see.

            Iraq also has MI-35M and they are rumored to be very pleased.
            1. kit-kat
              kit-kat 14 December 2015 16: 16
              +1
              Cool music.
        2. belroni
          belroni 14 December 2015 14: 59
          +9
          Yes, you, my friend, are a specialist. Swallow, my own helicopter, I studied it at school and then flew as a flight technician for many years. Everything you say is speculation. The best helicopter. A bit heavy, of course, but that's why he is a "tank". There is a lot of armor, but how she helped more than once. And the cabin saved more than one 300th.
          1. Kathernik
            Kathernik 14 December 2015 18: 24
            +1
            It is you who answered now. What kind of Helicopter are you talking about?
        3. belroni
          belroni 14 December 2015 14: 59
          0
          Yes, you, my friend, are a specialist. Lakstochka, my own helicopter, I studied it at school and then flew as a flight technician for many years. Everything you say is speculation. The best helicopter. A bit heavy, of course, but that's why he is a "tank". There is a lot of armor, but how she helped more than once. And the cabin saved more than one 300th.
          1. Aroma77
            Aroma77 14 December 2015 15: 20
            +4
            Here is a confirmation of 3,36 minutes of how the armor of crocodiles saves their lives.
            1. Artyom
              Artyom 14 December 2015 19: 35
              0
              I read the impressions of a helicopter pilot in Russian spring, and flew on the Mi-24 and 35. He writes that they are similar in appearance, but different machines for aerobatics and equipment, the Mi-35 has both pros and cons. Due to the shortened wings, the Mi-35 has become less stable in flight. Avionics is new and more computerized, it has become easier to aim, but it also refuses more often, in general, not everything is so simple.
            2. AlexG83
              AlexG83 14 December 2015 20: 25
              +1
              Quote: Aroma77
              Here is a confirmation of 3,36 minutes of how the armor of crocodiles saves their lives.


              A fragment from Mi-24 at 4:12 is a clipping from some sort of comp. games, DCS Simulator or Arma2-3.
  2. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 14 December 2015 13: 38
    +1
    I hope they will show their best.
  3. prabiz
    prabiz 14 December 2015 13: 39
    +4
    That's right - you need to test these helicopters in the combat zone! yes
  4. Yugra
    Yugra 14 December 2015 13: 40
    +3
    The more new weapons we test in combat conditions, the better we will be ready in future fights (and they are not far off). We will not hit the dirt in the face, as in Georgia on certain issues ...
  5. Izotovp
    Izotovp 14 December 2015 13: 50
    0
    Does anyone know the results of the use of bulky ammunition in Syria? Is there anything else besides Solntsepek?
    1. Sura
      Sura 14 December 2015 14: 08
      +1
      Does anyone know the results of the use of bulky ammunition in Syria? Is there anything else besides Solntsepek?

      One of the videos shows the bombing of some kind of oil facility (camera on the site). About 100 meters from the camera, a dust cloud forms, then the dust quickly moves towards the camera and an instant flash, everything is on fire. It looks like a volumetric bomb.
  6. hannibal lecter
    hannibal lecter 14 December 2015 13: 57
    +7
    Quote: Izotovp
    Does anyone know the results of the use of bulky ammunition in Syria? Is there anything else besides Solntsepek?

    Probably there are no witnesses left, and those who managed to shoot something are the screams of Alla I to the bar and darkness.
    1. Izotovp
      Izotovp 14 December 2015 14: 09
      0
      good I think that the Syrian army is fixing work
  7. Taygerus
    Taygerus 14 December 2015 14: 01
    +3
    the main thing is that without loss, good luck to ours, GOD is with us!
  8. gg.na
    gg.na 14 December 2015 14: 12
    +1
    our Misha will perfectly prove themselves there! good Good luck to them !!! Well, drinks for luck !!!
  9. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 14 December 2015 14: 12
    +5
    I will not say where, I watched, I do not know what))))) I watched from the top, from a distance of three kilometers. Sushka came in, alone, threw off something and abruptly left with a turn. Silence. Only pops from RPGs, black hats in catch-up and tracks. Thought leaflets dropped or the bomb did not work. On the other hand, the second one enters the meeting, she threw the same thing away. I liked it here. The map was a kilometer, then looked on the map, about half a square, the feeling of how in the army a blanket was shaken out on Saturdays, together up and down sharply, a column of dust. It was the same on the ground, it’s like they just shook the floor of a square, not so high, like at a break and quite fearlessly from afar. There were no more lights from there ...
  10. vinitskij2016
    vinitskij2016 14 December 2015 14: 22
    +2
    The wiki states that the Mi-35M is an export version of the Mi-24VM. The article states that the Mi-35M strengthened precisely our group. Can someone clarify?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 December 2015 15: 08
      0
      Quote: vinitskij2016
      The wiki states that the Mi-35M is an export version of the Mi-24VM. The article states that the Mi-35M strengthened precisely our group. Can someone clarify?

      PR. It is one thing to report on the production and procurement of the next version of the old unkind Mi-24, developed back in the USSR. And another thing is to launch in the media instead of Mi-24VM - Mi-35, newest and unparalleled in the world. Who knows that this is one and the same. smile

      With the T-90 it was about the same: as a girl, it was "an improved T-72B". smile
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 14 December 2015 15: 49
        +2
        And it is necessary as Abrams, once called and forever? Given that the Abrams twenty years ago and the Abrams today are two different tanks? Then let it be called - tank, and that's it, no lyrics, no abbreviations. "Russia supplied one hundred tanks to Syria, the Ministry of Defense purchased two hundred tanks from the manufacturer," short, clear and to the point, right?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 14 December 2015 16: 21
          +2
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          And you need as an abrams, once called and forever? Despite the fact that the abrams twenty years ago and the abrams of today are two different tanks?

          The armored hull, gun, suspension and engine type remained? So - the next modification. In the USSR, the practice was just this - and the multi-letter abbreviations of the modifications were built behind the numbers of the tank model. Despite the fact that the same source T-62 and T-62MB - the essence of two different tanks.
          The flyers have the same thing. MiG-23 - and then 23M, 23ML, 23MLD, 23P, 23BN (although the latter is already a drummer, not a fighter). Yes, and later the family of cars based on the Su-27 had in the name the number 27 with various letter modifications. This then went division into 30, 32, 33, 34, 35.

          In fact, the Mi-35 is another modification of the Mi-24. 35 is generally the model number in the export version.
          1. ancient
            ancient 14 December 2015 16: 41
            +1
            Quote: Alexey RA
            The flyers have the same thing. MiG-23 - and further 23M, 23ML, 23MLD, 23P, 23BN


            Lyosha .. forgot about B and MLDG wink , also Su-24,24M, 24MP, 24MP and so on many machines drinks
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 14 December 2015 18: 39
              +1
              Quote: ancient
              Lyosha .. forgot about B and MLDG wink , also Su-24,24M, 24MP, 24MP and so on many machines drinks

              This I also about the "balalaika", Tu-16 and An-12 did not remember - that's really who had modifications ... smile
      2. ancient
        ancient 14 December 2015 16: 38
        +2
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Who knows that this is one and the same.


        And who gave Alexey a minus ... "for the same thing"? belay After all, he is practically right ... VM is the "progenitor of the 35th" ... without some "buns", then it was finalized and it turned out to be 35M.
        In the army, "old men" are still called VM, I myself heard in Korenovsk, "over a glass ... tea" wink
    2. jPilot
      jPilot 14 December 2015 17: 22
      +2
      The Mi-35, so to speak, contains the concept of the legendary Mi-24 machine, but in fact it is in many ways a different machine, starting with the X-shaped RV (steering rotor), NV (main rotor) composite, ending with the fuselage, it seems to be similar but in fact there are many changes in it. So these are actually different cars for the apparent similarity. I am not telling all this by hearsay, I saw the Mi-35 for the first time in 2007. the testers were overtaking, and they were given a parking lot for refueling next to us. It was during joint exercises with China in Chelyabinsk. Well, of course, the pilot does not "sniff" a new car and do not let sit it like a child's toy to take away repeat wink
      1. ancient
        ancient 14 December 2015 17: 50
        +4
        Quote: jPilot
        The first time I saw the Mi-35 in 2007


        The very first lift, the first Mi-24VM (demonstrator) - March 4, 1999, the crew of G. Anaev

  11. Izotovp
    Izotovp 14 December 2015 14: 49
    +2
    Something strange minuses some fell belay
    1. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 14 December 2015 14: 51
      +2
      Quote: Izotovp
      Something strange minuses some fell belay



      It's always like this. There are "quiet" minus players here wink
      1. Sura
        Sura 14 December 2015 15: 28
        +1
        It's always like this. There are "quiet" minus players here

        War, gentlemen, war ... It happens not only hot, but, as here ... paid agents of influence, I noticed this for a long time. It seems that there is a group of minus signs and throw in comments
        on intelligence at the level of adolescent tees.
  12. Support
    Support 14 December 2015 15: 26
    +1
    Quote: Izotovp
    Something strange minuses some fell belay

    Yes, they’re sitting here some dodges ..... or craps ...... or earcaps ...... and minus ...... in general
    1. Finntroll
      Finntroll 14 December 2015 16: 59
      +2
      What confuses you? Plus agree, disagree minus (they are +/- here for this and are needed, is it worth "explaining" the minus is already a personal matter of the minus). So why are you covering up those who disagree with bad words? The impression is that most of the main goal here is to write, and then fap and spit on the "stat" in those who are minus.
  13. vinitskij2016
    vinitskij2016 14 December 2015 15: 41
    +5
    I have not been looking at this site for a long time, or rather I have been looking at it for a long time, but I decided to discuss and comment today. I'll tell you right away that I don't care about the pros or cons. I passed the data on the Mi-35M from the editorial staff of Wiki, to which I wanted to get some kind of response from ordinary site visitors. But I got a minus, can anyone clarify this, or do you always need some "stunning" statements? Thanks in advance for an adequate answer ...
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 14 December 2015 15: 51
      0
      I’m not strong in technology, I won’t explain anything, but minus corrected you. Than I could.
    2. ancient
      ancient 14 December 2015 16: 50
      +2
      Quote: vinitskij2016
      I transmitted data on the Mi-35M from the wiki


      Put you + drinks but many, including me, just .. "do not like Vika" (and here it is not suitable that they simply do not know how to .. "cook") wassat that's why, most likely, and .. "minus arrived" wink
      But the essence of your comment is true .. yes this is an export modification, the first contract in a series for Venezuela can work at night, instead of Sturm, an attack is used soldier
      Therefore, keep it here, +!

      This is Iraqi




      But actually on our site was dear rustam 12 he could tell a lot if he wanted recourse
      Photo, by the way ... from Rustam drinks
  14. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 14 December 2015 15: 46
    0
    Excellent helicopters, if only they wouldn’t run into machine guns ..
  15. Parkan
    Parkan 14 December 2015 15: 47
    0
    It is not clear why the Mi-35M had two suspension points removed compared to the Mi-24! Really, they were superfluous, not a landing cockpit !!!! This "improvement" for an attack helicopter is a controversial decision.
    1. Genry
      Genry 14 December 2015 16: 15
      0
      Mi-28 and Ka-52 see ....
    2. twviewer
      twviewer 14 December 2015 16: 16
      0
      Quote: Parkan
      It is not clear why the Mi-35M had two suspension points removed compared to the Mi-24! Really, they were superfluous, not a landing cockpit !!!! This "improvement" for an attack helicopter is a controversial decision.

      controversial, but all because the modernization is budgetary, heavy, they did not use composites - they could not lighten it as it should (like the Yuarovsky one for 2t), since they made the chassis non-retractable, then it did not "pull" an extra suspension point, and the wing was cut off.
      I think so :)
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 December 2015 18: 42
        0
        Quote: twviewer
        since they made the chassis fixed

        Fixed gear gave a saving of 80-90 kg.
    3. iouris
      iouris 14 December 2015 16: 50
      +1
      The Mi-24 wing was designed for UB-32 blocks (57 mm). Now we have switched to B-8 (82 mm), so one suspension point has been removed (I think so).
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 December 2015 18: 41
      0
      Quote: Parkan
      It is not clear why the Mi-35M removed two suspension points compared to the Mi-24!

      PMSM, just shortened the wing. The fight for weight + aerodynamics when working at low speed.
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 December 2015 16: 06
    0
    If you count on the number of ATGMs, then there are more points: 2 80mm nurses and 16 shots. On 24ka there are 2 nurses and 8 ptura (in the latter), and so 4 ptura. Now there is generally a tendency to increase the number of guided weapons.
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 December 2015 16: 07
    0
    Now you can fly out at night and graze caravans from convenient heights, without the risk of being hit by MANPADS
    1. Genry
      Genry 14 December 2015 16: 17
      +1
      To put MANPADS also infra ..
    2. ancient
      ancient 14 December 2015 16: 55
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Now you can fly out at night and graze caravans from convenient heights, without the risk of being hit by MANPADS


      I beg your pardon .. did you write the "urya-slogan"? For whom .. for the "people"?

      Don't you know that the "President" is not on them yet? And that the Chinese FN-6 MANPADS "works" at night without problems?

  18. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 December 2015 16: 07
    0
    Now you can fly out at night and graze caravans from convenient heights, without the risk of being hit by MANPADS
  19. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 December 2015 18: 58
    0
    Take the night sight and find at night with a 3000m helicopter that saw you from 6000m and went on the attack. Successes. Look at the actions of the Apaches in Iraq and NATO aviation in Yugoslavia. Have you ever wondered why they act at night?
  20. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 December 2015 19: 07
    0
    At night, only systems such as shell and tunguska and their analogues with constant scanning of the radar sky or thermal imaging sensor can protect from attack helicopters.
  21. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 15 December 2015 05: 53
    0
    Good replenishment will come in handy in Syria.