"Purchase of the Century" for the Lithuanian Army

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Lieutenant-General Jonas Vytautas Jukas, commander-in-chief of the Lithuanian armed forces, declared that the Lithuanian army would prefer German armored vehicles. In the near future it is planned to conclude an agreement on the supply of Boxer units from 88 from Germany, of which 84 are BMP and four more are command vehicles.

Advisor to the President of Lithuania Valdemaras Sarapinas reports that this will be the most expensive military acquisition for the whole of Lithuania’s existence. Informational portal Delphi cites the statement of Zarapinas:
The State Council on Defense unanimously decided that the Minister of Defense and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces initiate negotiations with the German consortium Artec on the purchase of the BMP Boxer through the international procurement organization OCCAR.


"Purchase of the Century" for the Lithuanian Army


At the same time, the total value of the contract that Lithuania and the German consortium are going to sign is not called. Nor is it called for exactly what purposes the Lithuanian army will use German infantry fighting vehicles.

A large purchase of armored vehicles for the Lithuanian army suggests that Lithuania is diligently customized to meet NATO budget spending standards. To date, Lithuanian military expenditures amount to about 1,2% of GDP, and, according to the NATO standard, 2% is necessary. That is why Grybauskaite is ready to buy everything that the “elder brothers” of the military alliance “advise”, which does not hide its focus on deterring Russia and expanding towards the Russian borders.
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  1. +49
    11 December 2015 17: 14
    And will they all fit in Lithuania? laughing
    Is that how they decided to scare us?
    1. +17
      11 December 2015 17: 19
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      And will they all fit in Lithuania? laughing
      Is that how they decided to scare us?

      Yes, no one has already scared us, just the great Lithuanians, together with the distant mushroom consumables in the case of the number one mess.
      1. +23
        11 December 2015 18: 31
        Why do they need armored vehicles? They are so scary
        1. +5
          11 December 2015 20: 07
          In general, this lieutenant general has how many troops that he has such a rank, it seems to me that he doesn’t even pull on a colonel.
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        3. +3
          11 December 2015 21: 27
          Lithuanian army will prefer German armored vehicles.
          ------------------------------------------------------------
          This is hereditary ...
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        5. +1
          11 December 2015 23: 05
          Quote: sherman1506
          Why do they need armored vehicles? They are so scary

          No, they’re worse. Something like this:
        6. +1
          12 December 2015 09: 38
          Quote: sherman1506
          Why do they need armored vehicles? They are so scary
      2. +3
        11 December 2015 21: 25
        This is called building up the strike force on a busy bridgehead. Purpose: further advance deep into the territory of the enemy. What the hell to scare? A strike force against us is being created and strengthened.
      3. +1
        11 December 2015 22: 19
        In the event of a mess, the Lithuanian army will spend a maximum of 2 hours ...
        1. 0
          12 December 2015 12: 45
          Yes, they do not care about the natives. They need to strengthen the bridgehead at our very borders.
      4. 0
        12 December 2015 12: 43
        You don’t understand anything. This is a veiled transfer of technology to create more or less its shock quantities. Part of the type entered directly, part of the type sold, part of the ride back and forth in the form of rotation. At the right time, they expect to quickly transfer crews and type to the battle. And crews can come in the form of tourists. And not in the form of a unit.
        There is the creation of an attack force in one form or another.
        In Syria, we are already working, now on New Year's Eve the Donbass will flop - considering that we will harness directly. Count two directions already. And then a shit, from the Baltic states you can push additionally. And in Transnistria.
        They expect that on so many fronts, especially Syria and Transnistria do not have a direct exit to us, we screw up and it will be possible to press.
    2. +30
      11 December 2015 17: 20
      It's always funny to watch the "attempts of the former" ... Scary faces make up against the Russian bear! And we look at them with regret and pity ... (sometimes we laugh)))
      1. +2
        11 December 2015 17: 25
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        it's funny to watch the "attempts of the former" ... Scary faces are wriggling against the Russian bear!

        There is a modification with a toilet module
      2. +1
        11 December 2015 18: 55
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        It's always funny to watch the "attempts of the former" ... Scary faces are making up against the Russian bear!

        "Ai Pug, to know she is strong ..." I think further comments are unnecessary. fool
    3. +5
      11 December 2015 17: 39
      Really chatted Fritz sprats haw?
      1. aba
        +3
        11 December 2015 23: 30
        Really chatted Fritz sprats?

        Yes, not ... It's just that after buying so many "supertechnics" they themselves will only eat sprats.
    4. +4
      11 December 2015 17: 53
      At the same time, the total value of the contract that Lithuania and the German consortium are going to sign is not called. Nor is it called for exactly what purposes the Lithuanian army will use German infantry fighting vehicles.

      What is not called? here in VO there was already news about purchases and about the scandal that they would charge for old BMPs as for new and even more and even more names of those involved in cutting the budget of the Lithuanian Defense Ministry.

      Here's an example
      As REGNUM reported earlier, Lithuania plans to purchase Boxer infantry fighting vehicles for 460 million euros. The cost of one armored personnel carrier is 4,6 million euros. Lithuania plans to purchase one hundred of these military vehicles. Boxer is the latest armored personnel carrier of the German military industry. He began to enter service in 2009.

      Details: http://regnum.ru/news/economy/1970601.html
    5. +3
      11 December 2015 17: 54
      Maybe for scrap? Their army can be taken out of the country in two trucks. It all fits on three sofas.
      Or something to skedaddle the plane, it was more convenient to the "Canadian border"?
      Four command vehicles would be enough!
    6. 0
      11 December 2015 18: 35
      They’ll put them close together and fit, but everything else is a different story ... laughing
    7. Tor5
      0
      11 December 2015 19: 16
      Oh no no no! And where to run from this armada?
    8. Tor5
      +1
      11 December 2015 19: 16
      Oh no no no! And where to run from this armada?
      1. 0
        11 December 2015 19: 43
        Who pays for a holiday rearmament for Dali? They already buy gas above the European price, switched to electricity on the European spot market.
        Maybe I don’t know something, or was there a huge advertising company of sprats in the West ?? laughing
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    10. +1
      11 December 2015 20: 22
      The chassis of the Christie tank looks like ...
    11. +1
      11 December 2015 23: 32
      It seems to fit. There are many places now. The other day I was in Lithuania. Sensation as if pestilence passed there. You’re driving along the road, but there’s nobody to meet ... Only on the Warsaw-Vilnius highway is there some kind of revival. I went to a supermarket in Druskinenkai, and there is Russian speech everywhere. This is strange Lithuania. He says one thing and does another. Only young people in Russian do not understand, and steel with great pleasure will talk with you and show the way. And they criticize the authorities, remembering with sadness the USSR.
  2. 0
    11 December 2015 17: 16
    84 pieces for such a country mine too much, it is interesting to know what kind of modifications they bought.
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 17: 51
      84 pieces for such a country mine too much, it is interesting to know what kind of modifications they bought.


      Normally, they have obligations, up to 2% of GDP to catch up with expenditures. Let them ride. Not yet bought, yet asking the price.
    2. -1
      11 December 2015 18: 49
      Approximately two battalion sets. On the scale of confrontation with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation about anything.
      Oops. Correction-technique for 4 battalions (!!!) of the "Iron Wolf" brigade.
      1. +3
        12 December 2015 09: 01
        strannik1985 RU Yesterday, 18: 49
        Approximately two battalion sets. On the scale of confrontation with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation about anything.

        Equipment for one NATO battalion. Their battalions are almost twice the size of ours. If it is necessary to start hostilities, they will cover the concentration and deployment of the NATO grouping in Lithuania, after the build-up of which, the scale of the confrontation will still be unknown in whose favor. "Boxer" is a very good modular device, it has the ability to re-equip under various conditions and depending on the need to perform any tasks by replacing the removable fighting compartment. And the Lithuanians did not fail in this regard, here the hap-handed moods are superfluous.
        1. 0
          12 December 2015 14: 15
          The Lithuanian motorized infantry battalion has 30 armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles, 9 120 mm mortars and 7 60 mm mortars, 6 MANPADS.
          We have all the options for direct armed confrontation spill over into a nuclear conflict, whether Lithuania has Boxers or not for missiles.
        2. 0
          29 May 2016 22: 08
          I agree. The technique is not bad. I do not understand our cheers patriots. In general, the Lithuanians know how to fight, they did a good job in Afghanistan. It is quite competent to equip your army, which will be albeit small, but quite technologically advanced.
          By the way, in addition to armored vehicles, they plan to purchase Norwegian NASAMS anti-aircraft missile systems. This is a pretty good and serious thing. So, in "half a day" or even more so in "2 hours" it will hardly work to break them.
    3. 0
      11 December 2015 20: 55
      Quote: aviator1913
      84 pieces for such a country I think there are too many

      The rut will be rolled all over the country and there will be no need for more rails - sheer savings, and there is no need to steer anywhere, everything will already be clear to everyone where to aim ...
    4. -1
      12 December 2015 04: 53
      Quote: aviator1913
      84 pieces for such a country mine too much, it is interesting to know what kind of modifications they bought.

      What is the difference actually? What actually can be put on an armored personnel carrier that would "suddenly" become a threat to Russia? The presence of a toilet in the configuration is not necessary, all the same, the entire crew will not have time to shit in one device during the arrival of Russian missiles, but for one commander it is a luxury.
  3. +2
    11 December 2015 17: 17
    Hmm, before that we bought the vaunted German G-36 Heckler und Koch assault rifles with two cartridge horns per barrel. Now they will buy "box" ones without spare parts. Such a reversal. Interestingly, the headquarters calculated their combat use? It won't be too much work for us to burn it ...
    1. +3
      11 December 2015 17: 31
      Burn, and in parks, in a crowd ....
    2. 0
      11 December 2015 20: 03
      Quote: Altona
      It’s all for us to burn labor is not special ...


      Why burn it? We’ll capture when we’ll go by .... Maybe for some reason it will do.
    3. +1
      12 December 2015 01: 27
      Underestimate the cunning plan of the little ones, maybe they don’t mind it all, but they buy for us;)
  4. 0
    11 December 2015 17: 17
    Again used or what?
    1. +6
      11 December 2015 17: 52
      Quote: Gormengast
      Again used or what?

      Yes, who will give them new ones. and there’s not enough money for new ones
    2. 0
      11 December 2015 17: 56
      Yes, most likely tinted junk at the price of a new purchase. Loot from the budget will be drained and drained.
    3. 0
      11 December 2015 18: 38
      Judging by the photos are very used ...
  5. +1
    11 December 2015 17: 17
    It’s interesting, but they have so many military men in Lithuania to fill all 88 armored personnel carriers ???
  6. +6
    11 December 2015 17: 18
    Here it is, real support for the military-industrial complex of the NATO countries. So, and the only way I can consider this deal.
  7. +2
    11 December 2015 17: 19
    And the Lithuanian army will be enough to guard the "parking lot" ... ???
  8. +1
    11 December 2015 17: 21
    Again used or what?


    They seem to be only produced in the 4 of the year, and the Bundesfer army is not yet saturated with BTR data.

    It’s interesting, but they have so many military men in Lithuania to fill all 88 armored personnel carriers ???


    Most likely, they will order cars of different classes that would be unified, and at the same time it would be possible to put old engineering machines, repair and recovery vehicles, and medical ones into storage.

    BMP Boxer is pretty versatile machine. Therefore, if you make it basic, and order different types, you can well equip the Lithuanian army.
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 17: 53
      Quote: aviator1913
      Again used or what?


      They seem to be only produced in the 4 of the year, and the Bundesfer army is not yet saturated with BTR data.

      It’s interesting, but they have so many military men in Lithuania to fill all 88 armored personnel carriers ???


      Most likely, they will order cars of different classes that would be unified, and at the same time it would be possible to put old engineering machines, repair and recovery vehicles, and medical ones into storage.

      BMP Boxer is pretty versatile machine. Therefore, if you make it basic, and order different types, you can well equip the Lithuanian army.

      Therefore, if you make it basic, and orderThis is the largest deal since independence !!! To order something else, you need another 25 years !!!!! We carefully read the article.
      Congo is already scared, there will be no war. You can’t order anything else.
    2. +3
      11 December 2015 17: 54
      Quote: aviator1913
      Most likely, they will order cars of different classes that would be unified, and at the same time it would be possible to put old engineering machines, repair and recovery vehicles, and medical ones into storage.
      No, they will be equipped with BMPs in the four motorized battalions of their Iron Wolf brigade. And the newly formed 2nd Motorized Brigade will be armed with the old equipment of the Iron Wolves (because they reintroduced the draft and want to double the army). I think they can do it. By the beginning of World War II, they had a thirty thousand strong army (2 in wartime states).
  9. -3
    11 December 2015 17: 21
    It's funny in January Germany refused to buy Lithuania, citing "the Bundeswehr's own needs." http://www.belaruspartisan.org/politic/296218/
    The Boxster is good, but also the price of biting in the mid-range 3 million euros.
    Quote: aviator1913
    84 pieces for such a country mine too much
    Lithuania is by no means a small country, one and a half times more than the same Belarus. and 300 M113 in service has
    1. +2
      11 December 2015 17: 25
      Lithuania is by no means a small country. and 300 M113 in service has


      At first I thought that they would buy everything in the Boxer IFV modification, and then I came up with the thought that they would most likely take different classes, for universality. And if for example they have 40 Boxer IFV, 10 Boxer HEL, 5 Boxer AEG, 5 Boxer DTV, etc. vehicles, they will qualitatively improve their motorized rifle units.
    2. +11
      11 December 2015 17: 48
      Lithuania Area: 65 301 km²
      Belarus Area: 207 600 km²
      1. +1
        11 December 2015 18: 13
        Quote: vanya
        Lithuania Area: 65 301 km²
        Belarus Area: 207 600 km²

        Hmm, sorry, he undeservedly "offended" the Belarusians. My cant
    3. +1
      11 December 2015 17: 50
      Lithuania is by no means a small country, one and a half times more than the same Belarus. The area of ​​Belarus is 84th in the world
      207 [600] km². Lithuania is the 3rd in the world
      65 301 km². Your CEP.
      1. 0
        11 December 2015 20: 30
        Quote: vadim.alekseevich
        Lithuania is the 123rd in the world
        65 301 km².

        I don’t take our republics, the area of ​​the Krasnodar Territory is 75,5 thousand square kilometers. So Lithuania is "a little" not big !!!!!
        For reference:
        Altai Territory - 167 996 km²
        Stavropol Territory - 66 160 km²
        Krasnoyarsk Territory - 2 km²
        Khabarovsk Territory - 787 633 km²
        well, etc.
        Although the smallest republic of Adygea is 7792 km², and the largest Yakutia is 3 083 523 km².
        Well, something like this!
    4. 0
      11 December 2015 17: 55
      Respected! Have you looked at the map? laughing
  10. 52
    +1
    11 December 2015 17: 21
    We bought 88, of which, traditionally, 44 for spare parts, 22 for storage, 11 for training and 11 just in case, for resale to the Maidanaut horses.
  11. +2
    11 December 2015 17: 27
    Bought at the expense of senior citizens. They promised pensions raised from the new year, now they are no longer raising!
  12. +3
    11 December 2015 17: 32
    Zhukas, he is also in Africa Zhukas. He heard something about WWII. Any, the most advanced technique has one, very significant one, which can be said to make it unsuitable for war, it does not fight. You at least buy some, but if there is no fighting spirit, it is useless.
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 17: 43
      Yes, in the former Baltic republics, fear of our country simply passes into senility.
      But the German line of this armored vehicle itself is worthy of respect and I personally like it. Although, to be objective, the German tank school is undoubtedly the best - after ours of course.
  13. 0
    11 December 2015 17: 34
    the main thing is that we don’t stick out of our border, we can pinch our noses slightly ...
    And there, let them even put on the priest ...
  14. +2
    11 December 2015 17: 35
    I wonder where they get the "grandmother" for this whole thing? The main thing for the country is this weapon for "fick" is not needed but still buy, they think maybe the army will be stronger, idiots! fool
  15. +1
    11 December 2015 17: 37
    The closer to us all these developments of the German military-industrial complex, the easier it will be for our intelligence officers to familiarize themselves with them. And there we will find the best way to turn all this "beauty" into a rusty heap of metal.
  16. Vvp
    +3
    11 December 2015 17: 37
    88 units of armored vehicles - "the most expensive military acquisition in the entire existence of Lithuania." They ordered to spend the military budget - done, but there is no one to use and nowhere. But money was poured into the German economy.
  17. +2
    11 December 2015 17: 39
    Global Information War. More noise than business, if only to excite the audience! What can Lithuania hold back if only Russian wagons, but certainly not troops
  18. +2
    11 December 2015 17: 39
    Today, Lithuania's military spending is about 1,2% of GDP, and, according to the NATO standard, 2% is needed. That is why Gribauskaite is ready to buy everything that the "older brothers" in the military alliance "advise", which does not hide its focus on containing Russia and expanding towards the Russian borders.
    If there is not enough money, the Komsomol member Grybauskaite will earn extra money and make a shortage.
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  20. +3
    11 December 2015 17: 39
    Interestingly, but ordinary Lithuanians are happy with such a squandering of funds? Well, how many megatons of sprats had to be sold in order to buy such an armada? And who will contain them, what shisha?
  21. +1
    11 December 2015 17: 42
    Yeah, Friday positive !!!!!!!!!
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 18: 12
      vigorous popets !!! good
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    3. -1
      11 December 2015 19: 38
      Cool. Powerful imagination.
      1. +1
        11 December 2015 21: 30
        Yes, this button accordion is enough about and without squeezing everywhere. Annoying ...
  22. +4
    11 December 2015 17: 43
    Again they are talking about all sorts of rusty shit..m that the Lithuanians, that our Hans are ready to buy not just "second hand", but even "third hand" or "fourth hand" in the hope of probably scaring Russia. All our Latvian political shooters buying all kinds of rubbish trying to broadcast that three proud Baltic "republics" in the event of aggression from the eastern neighbor will be able to use these "modern" military means to hold back the enemy for several days until the main forces of NATO come to the rescue !!! This is such a defense policy of underdeveloped degenerates!
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 18: 15
      And for what purpose do you not speak of attacking Russia to the Baltic republics?
      1. +4
        11 December 2015 20: 04
        Well, you are just like a child. From the late seventies to the mid-eighties of the last century, my wife and I traveled all over the Baltic states, including Koenigsberg and Belarus (Minsk, Brest, Khatyn, etc.). I will say one thing, quoting Odessa, so that I live like that. They skated like cheese in oil (Kaliningrad and the region should not be included), in our industrial city the plants plowed both on the military commissar and on the civilian, the whole country knew us from our refrigerators, stewed meat and sweets, I’m silent about the defense industry. So there was one continuous deficit. We arrived in the Baltic states, the jaw fell with a knock on the floor. That in Latvia, that in Lithuania, the same picture in Estonia. They probably think we’ll go in and their old life will be reborn. They’re even shouting at the occupiers, everyone would have such an occupation, but they’re even afraid to admit that they didn’t expect such a life when they separated. And young people, they didn’t live under the Soviet regime and there’s nothing to compare with what political scientists hang on their ears, they will believe in that.
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      1. 0
        11 December 2015 18: 50
        Specifically, Lithuania will have to attack from Belarus if NATO blocks the Kaliningrad defensive region.area and it itself can deliver a strong preemptive strike, including in the depths of Europe --- and this cools NATO from any aggression. But if they can destabilize the situation and unleash a hybrid war like the Syrian, then our steel battalions will be sent to Vilnius, and Lithuanian military targets will be fiercely fired. *************AT. T. Obukhov (left) at the tank "Forward, for Vilnius!"
  23. +2
    11 December 2015 17: 50
    They are unable to restrain us with these vans, all the more so! And then why do we need them at all! We need them with only one single purpose: if there are NATO missiles there, then they are the target, that’s all! And let them snore quietly further ..
  24. 0
    11 December 2015 17: 54
    Correctly, each soldier in the BMP, and each commander in the command machine (KShM). Each sailor in an inflatable boat (fishing equipment at his own expense) laughing
  25. +5
    11 December 2015 17: 57
    Lithuania, Lithuania ... And after all, don't be silly, they know very well that THIS is all they don't need, but they are buying. They have little choice: either Lithuania buys, or LITHUANIA-BUY !!! Interestingly, and then what they will be "divorced"?
  26. +2
    11 December 2015 17: 58
    GTK "Boxer" (Gepanzerte Transport Kraftfahrzeug "Boxer") - German-Dutch multipurpose armored personnel carrier. The combat wheeled amphibious armored vehicle can be equipped with a variety of weapons and is intended for use in motorized rifle units of the ground forces.
    The cost of GTK Boxer is about € 3 million per unit.

    The main body of the GTK "Boxer" consists of solid steel, and is equipped with "modular armor", it provides protection against bullets and fragments of artillery shells and anti-tank mines.

    Modifications:
    - command car
    - ambulance
    - "tank Destroyer".

    Specifications:
    Combat weight: 33 t
    Crew: 3 people.
    Landing: 8 people.

    Dimensions:
    Body length: 7930mm
    Case width: 2990 mm
    Height: 2370 mm
    Track: 2580 mm
    Clearance: 500 mm

    Armament:
    Machine guns: 1x7,62 / 1x12,7 mm
    Other weapons: 40-mm Heckler & Koch GMG ASG

    Road performance:
    Engine: diesel supercharged V8 199 TE21
    Manufacturer: MTU Friedrichshafen
    Volume: 15 900 cm3
    Maximum power: 720 hp, at 2300 rpm
    Maximum torque: 2700 Nm, at 1500 rpm
    Cooling: liquid
    Timing (number of ticks): 4

    Highway speed: 103 km / h
    Cruising on the highway: 1050 km
    Specific power: 21,8 liters. s / t
    Wheel formula: 8×8/4
    Suspension type: independent, torsion bar with telescopic hydraulic shock absorbers

    Obstacle obstacles:
    rise: 60%
    wall: 0,8 m
    ditch: 2,0 m
    ford: 0,8 m
  27. +1
    11 December 2015 17: 59
    A man with the name Zhukas in German armored vehicles?
  28. 0
    11 December 2015 17: 59
    Now they will definitely defeat Russia. We must again buy sprats before it’s too late
    1. -1
      11 December 2015 21: 33
      Yes, it just became unprofitable to pack sprats of 200 grams. Here they are in these tins of three tons tin and across the border ...
  29. 0
    11 December 2015 18: 00
    Not only that, they bought it .... on an exorbitant price, so now the content of all this so that at least it moves will become such a problem for the money that Grybauskaite will have to sell everything that is unnecessary.
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 21: 27
      Quote: lopvlad
      Not only did they buy r .... at exorbitant prices so now the contents of it all

      gg, what worries you so much is the free choice of a free country, roughly speaking, - either to eat well or to play rattles. In the sandbox, you can win a place for yourself among the same "kids" hurt by the war, the last war, which ended with a different result than their top aspired to ...
  30. jan
    +1
    11 December 2015 18: 04
    What nonsense. Why do the Balts need an army at all? Who can they really fight with. Not really with Russia?)))) Ukatayka, honestly))) An example with Syria is not obvious ??? "Caliber" rules!
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 23: 27
      Will you hit the BTR-caliber? Krosssaffcheg, cho!
    2. 0
      12 December 2015 11: 45
      What nonsense. why should the Balts have an army at all ?,
      it’s all the ideas of Amers, the creation of multiple small formations. But only at whose expense this happens, this is a question. There is also the coherence of these so-called national armies.
  31. +7
    11 December 2015 18: 05
    It is simply impossible without humor (do not judge cruelly) ... wink
  32. 0
    11 December 2015 18: 08
    This is such a new packaging for sprats ...
    1. -4
      11 December 2015 18: 32
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      And for what purpose do you not speak of attacking Russia to the Baltic republics?
      It is known from what - "Defense of the Russian World".
      It's good that at least they managed to enter NATO
      Quote: jan
      What kind of nonsense. why Balts in general army?
      In the Ukraine, too, thought so .. And it won how it happened ..
  33. 0
    11 December 2015 18: 11
    Become scared !!! - suddenly attack ??? as many as 80 infantry fighting vehicles. The Americans are ravaging all of Europe.
  34. +1
    11 December 2015 18: 11
    Bashkortostan
    Area 142 km²
    So somehow hi
  35. 0
    11 December 2015 18: 12
    Lithuania is diligently driven by NATO standards

    Just some kind of correct typo! laughing
  36. +3
    11 December 2015 18: 13
    Why paralyzing screeching and throwing slippers? These machines are state-of-the-art technology that meets a potential theater of operations. The amount is rather big. Lithuania, objectively, is increasing its military potential at our border. You can hang on them a variety of warheads - from self-propelled guns to air defense systems.
    Is there a toilet? Why not? Not all aircraft of our long-range aviation have toilets (they fly with a bucket !!!).
    About the fact that they do this by cutting pensions - in our country, pensions were indexed less than the inflation rate, and we are also rearming. By the way, they have pensions slightly more than ours, to say the least.
    At our borders, NATO’s military presence is increasing at times, both qualitatively and quantitatively. Think of the Leopards in Finland. Why rejoice? Take off your pink glasses, even a little more serious!
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 18: 28
      In order to maintain your own army you need VERY much money, which Lithuania simply does not have. They bred them like suckers for money, but in the end everything will rot in the garages, or the villagers will take it apart for scrap. They are not warriors, they can only get puffed up.
    2. 0
      11 December 2015 18: 28
      In order to maintain your own army you need VERY much money, which Lithuania simply does not have. They bred them like suckers for money, but in the end everything will rot in the garages, or the villagers will take it apart for scrap. They are not warriors, they can only get puffed up.
  37. +1
    11 December 2015 18: 16
    Not necessarily these infantry fighting vehicles for Lithuania. Merkel cannot directly pass them on to Svidomo, and Lithuania does not care, they are "friends" from the outskirts. So they muddied this sale. IMHO.
  38. +1
    11 December 2015 18: 18
    MIKHALYCH1 (4) Quote:
    It's always funny to watch the "attempts of the former" ... Scary faces are making up against the Russian bear!

    Do not underestimate the enemy - the bug is small, but smelly.
    So, inadvertently crush ...
  39. 0
    11 December 2015 18: 20
    They will also buy for conservation as sprats until better times.
  40. +3
    11 December 2015 18: 23
    The Lithuanian web resource www.lrytas.lt has published some details of Lithuania’s planned acquisition of the 8K8 GTK Boxer armored personnel carriers manufactured by the German consortium ARTEC (now it unites Rheinmetall Defense and Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW)). The Council of Defense Resources of the Ministry of Defense of Lithuania has decided to choose an APC Boxer based on a competitive review, which initially featured ten types of wheeled vehicles from all major western manufacturers. This decision has been submitted to the State Defense Council of Lithuania, which in the coming weeks should finally authorize the purchase.
    According to the web resource www.lrytas.lt, Lithuania plans to purchase approximately 70 Boxer armored personnel carriers to equip two motorized infantry battalions. The total value of the contract may be about 350 million euros (although sources do not yet confirm this figure), which will make it the largest defense purchase in Lithuanian history. The first half of these 70 cars should be delivered in 2017. There is also an option for two more BTR Boxer battalion sets, the implementation of which is possible in the future.

    After the re-equipment of the battalions of the current motorized infantry brigade of the Lithuanian army "Geležinis vilkas" on the Boxer armored personnel carrier, the freed tracked M113 armored personnel carriers (obtained in the 2000s from the presence of the Bundeswehr) are planned to be transferred to equip the 2nd infantry brigade, which is planned for formation in the Lithuanian army.

    Lithuania selected the Boxer BTR in the configuration with the uninhabited KMW RCT-30 turret with a 30-mm Rheinmetall MK 30-2 / ABM automatic gun This turret is equipped with the new German Puma BMP. Additionally, the Lithuanian Boxer towers RCT-30 will be equipped with Javelin ATGM launchers. Lithuanian Boxer will be delivered in the version with additional protection, which, in particular, will ensure the forehead of the hull is protected from hits of 25 mm armor-piercing shells from a distance of 500 m. The total combat weight of the vehicle in this configuration will be about 35 tons.

    It is reported that the Lithuanian military was considering the option of installing the combat module proposed by Lockheed Martin UK with a new 40-mm automatic cannon CTA International CT40 with telescopic ammunition on Boxer armored personnel carriers, however, they refused this because the system was not yet ready for serial production. For the same reason, the proposal of the French group Nexter Systems in the form of a VBCI armored personnel carrier with a tower with the same 40-mm CT40 gun was rejected. Due to the absence at present in the serial production, the General Dynamics offers of the Piranha III + and Piranha V platforms were rejected. A number of other bidders were not ready to offer vehicles with the required weapons module by the Lithuanians, which were certainly in the stage of mass production. Lithuania will be produced in the same series as the vehicles delivered to the Netherlands (that is, they will probably be assembled in the Netherlands at the Rheinmetall MAN Military Vehicles Nederland in Helmond), and RCT-30 combat modules will be purchased under the Bundeswehr contract for these systems.

    Lithuania, thus, will become the first foreign customer of the Boxer armored personnel carrier German-Dutch design (originally the Dutch company Stork participated in the development of the machine - one of the "wrecks" of Fokker, but in 2008 the "land" division of Stork was acquired by the Rheinmetall group, becoming its Dutch a division of Rheinmetall Nederland). To date, the German army has ordered 272 machines of the Boxer family (deliveries have been made by the ARTEC consortium since March 2011), and the Dutch army has ordered 200 machines (deliveries began at the end of 2013). The possibility of increasing the number of Boxer machines purchased by the German Bundeswehr is being considered.
  41. +2
    11 December 2015 18: 25
    Fruits and vegetables can come from Kyrgyzstan. Do not want to go to Issyk-Kul?

    Goods will be untied from the dollar 0
    The governments of Kyrgyzstan and Russia have agreed to switch to settlements in rubles
    http://www.rg.ru/2015/12/10/rubl.html
  42. 0
    11 December 2015 18: 32
    Brothers! I have a 2nd day some kind of glitch with VO ... it slows down, it prints comments, then no .. is there anyone who has something similar?
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 18: 42
      hi Ivan, your comments for an hour are not about God's chosen people?
      As soon as I try to raise this topic or post a video
      That something similar is happening to me
      In particular today
    2. 0
      11 December 2015 19: 01
      Yes, and when accessing articles, it often gives an error winked
    3. 0
      11 December 2015 19: 51
      It looks like a DDOS attack on a site.
  43. +1
    11 December 2015 18: 43
    Who zaminusil? Arguments in the studio!
  44. +1
    11 December 2015 18: 45
    Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Lithuania, Lieutenant General Jonas Vytautas Zhukas ...
    and when he was just a lieutenant Ivan Viktorovich Zhukov, classmates in the alma mater called Vanka Zhukov, quoted about herring, grandfather Makar, well, etc. wassat
  45. +7
    11 December 2015 18: 48
    It seems necessary to be afraid, as many as 84 cars. Wah wah ...
    You know, this is not even funny, but sad. Dalia's Komsomol member is striving to become the leaders of the "free world". The impression that the desire to crawl under someone prevails, do not care about their own country. Sad
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    2. +2
      11 December 2015 19: 03
      How many BMPs, BMDs did our army receive this year?
  46. +1
    11 December 2015 18: 54
    The question is my very remote from this supposed theater of operations in another. If we theoretically assume that Lithuania is strengthening its army n-fold, then its potential adversary, which is the Russian Federation, has to take this into account in its planning. And if earlier it was planned to single out the Mehbrigade and TBT for the capture of Lithuania, then as the Lithuanians build up their combat potential, this group should be significantly strengthened. And since everyone understands that Lithuania is not only a corridor to Kaliningrad, but also a NATO country, the conflict in which the Russian Federation will take up this corridor should be very serious and the hostilities in the Baltic countries will not be limited. Consequently, the strengthening of troops in the Baltic states leads to a decrease in forces in another region.
    PS And the Lithuanians have always been able to fight. Since the time of Minodvig and Olgerd. Well, during the Second World War, the Lithuanians, both "red" and "black", showed themselves not badly at the front.
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 20: 14
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Well, during the Second World War, the Lithuanians, both "red" and "black", showed themselves not badly at the front.

      Punitive battalions of Lithuanians "noise" killed hundreds of thousands of Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Jews, remind about the Vilnius ghetto? Do you think they showed themselves so well, well, Aron, "not bad"?
      Since the time of the Ministry of the Ministry of Defense and Algerd

      Belarusians were not accidentally forgotten as part of the Lithuanian principality?
      1. 0
        29 May 2016 22: 15
        Lithuanians fought in the Red Army too. in the same way that quite a few Ruusks became collaborators. Be objective.
  47. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 08
    It will become cheaper ...
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  48. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 08
    "That is why Grybauskaite is ready to buy everything that the" older brothers "in the military alliance" advise "

    It is necessary to melt the old stuff somewhere - dismantling according to European standards is very expensive, but then they sold it to "our smaller brothers" and forgot, let them go *)
    1. -1
      11 December 2015 21: 55
      Quote: Ros 56
      but they are even afraid to admit to themselves that they did not expect such a life when they separated.

      Yes, they live normally. Look even on BTRs buy ..
      About Estonia:
      The country is small, very well-groomed (almost all 300 kilometers from the border to Tallinn, the grass along the highway was CLOSED) and the oil in it is not pumped.
      Despite the fact that they are all "Baltic", "compact" and have endured identical shocks in the last century, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are very different from each other.
      I know one common problem: since the standard of living still lags behind Western European, many people, mostly young people, leave the Baltic states for work in Scandinavia, Britain, Germany, etc., and not all return. Especially disastrous with this in Lithuania - the number of beautiful girls (and Lithuania in this respect is the real Eldorado!) In sight has been shockingly reduced, and for this very reason.
      Estonia is the most prosperous of the three countries. In addition to agriculture, with which everyone in these areas is doing very well, tourism is still flourishing (Tallinn was visited by eight and a half million foreign tourists in 2013 year; for comparison, the whole of Russia is less than two million ...) and the IT industry . Skype or Whatsapp, for example - the Estonian invention.
      Now a new development has been launched here: e-citizenship, and already several thousand people from different countries are queuing up for obtaining "electronic citizenship" in order to conduct their business and financial affairs in virtual Estonia. With bureaucracy, everything is transparent, minimal and brought online.
      There are higher achievements in culture (Arvo Pärt is the number one composer on the planet), education (according to the level of Estonia’s high school in the world top five) and, quite possibly, other areas. Modest but distinct natural beauty; amazing islands and national parks. Very high quality products, reasonable prices. Traditioned folk traditions.
  49. -3
    11 December 2015 19: 10
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    And the Lithuanians have always been able to fight. Since the time of Minodvig and Olgerd. Well, during the Second World War the Lithuanians, both "red" and "black", showed themselves at the front not bad.



    Just like you are "flitty". ((((
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 19: 52
      Jewish citizens, well, as soon as you say something about you, they immediately criticize the sea.
      And how do you like us Russian Th ..... m water that ento tolerance, or else you do not understand ...?
  50. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 15
    Dr. Bormental (2) Quote:
    Brothers! I have a 2nd day some kind of glitch with VO ... it slows down, it prints comments, then no .. is there anyone who has something similar?

    There is such a thing (
    I didn’t have to offend McCain yesterday — the demons take revenge.
  51. Tor5
    0
    11 December 2015 19: 18
    Oh no no no! And where to run from this armada??
  52. Tor5
    0
    11 December 2015 19: 21
    Oh no no no! And where can we run from this armada?
  53. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 22
    Worthy descendants of their ancestors, veterans of the 2nd and 3rd Lithuanian SS battalions, they, too, during World War II, were very fond of German technology
  54. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 26
    You’d better get your fighter plane, which sank six months ago, out of the water -
    AN-2 bomber with pilots on board. And then there was only one who was still trying to fly, but apparently it was not fate. Your commander of your Air Force, Sisniauskas, promised to get him from a depth of 140 meters, but “things are still there”
  55. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 41
    More and more, the Balts are afraid not of an external threat, but of an internal one. Non-citizens are like a bone in their throat for them, and Russia’s demonstration of its strength instills in Russian pribals confidence and a desire to claim their rights to legal residence in the Baltic states. Labuses feel that the Russian population of the Baltic states is like a keg of gunpowder, and sooner or later the patience of the Russians will end. And the example of the DPR, LPR and Crimea will serve as a catalyst.
  56. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 00
    You’d better get your fighter plane, which sank six months ago, out of the water -
    AN-2 bomber with pilots on board. And then there was only one who was still trying to fly, but apparently it was not fate. Your commander of your Air Force, Sisniauskas, promised to get him from a depth of 140 meters, but “things are still there”
  57. 0
    11 December 2015 20: 09
    Jews, Jews around are only Jews
    and even in Africa the Pygmy, although black
    But the Jew...

    VYSOTSKY!!!!
  58. 0
    11 December 2015 20: 29
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Of course, the region itself can deliver a strong pre-emptive strike, including deep into Europe

    Kaliningrad has one problem: it is small and isolated. In fact, shot through. And as I remember, the number of troops there is not that large. It will be difficult for him during a naval blockade. The Baltic Fleet is not our strongest. It may not be possible to break through the blockade. It will only remain through the Baltic states. And if the same Americans manage to deploy the Marine Corps in the Baltics, the unblocking strike through the Baltics could be bogged down for a long time. Naturally, this is all provided that tactical nuclear weapons are not used.
  59. Erg
    0
    11 December 2015 20: 51
    Guys, why did we attack the Balts? For example, I am the “Minister of Defense” of my apartment wassat Well, let the kids play with electric current. Suddenly it passes...
  60. 0
    11 December 2015 21: 34
    ...
    - people are having fun..
    - Well, they are in their right..
    / we don’t give a damn about their clownery /
  61. 0
    11 December 2015 21: 36
    how good it is that Marshal of Victory Zhukov was not Lithuanian laughing
  62. +1
    11 December 2015 21: 59
    What year is this a rarity? junk....
  63. 0
    11 December 2015 22: 43
    Why didn’t they help the Ukrainians, they can come up with such a miracle that you’ll get pumped
  64. 0
    11 December 2015 23: 32
    How I feel sorry for them and their attempts. as many as 88 cars, we all give up))
  65. 0
    12 December 2015 00: 26
    We don’t take their sprats, so they will shoot, shoot, shoot into our territory...
  66. 0
    12 December 2015 00: 34
    What kind of insect is on the site? He runs through all the comments and downvotes everything, judging by the speed, without even reading them. Moderators, hey!
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  68. 0
    12 December 2015 03: 53
    I'll have to heat it again in the winter............ and why are you itching?
  69. 0
    13 December 2015 23: 14
    What a blessing that during the collapse of the USSR they managed to remove the army and all its equipment from the Baltic states!
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    2. 0
      14 December 2015 11: 45
      Not all of it. Much remains in warehouses, a lot of small arms, engineering equipment, ammunition, etc., etc. Those who remained were the military (due to their length of service - they were retired, without housing, without work because they were “occupiers”; housing was not provided in Russia. The housing program was launched a couple of years later, with funding from the states. They were built in the Kaliningrad region, mainly).