Report on the situation at the SE “KMDB named after A.A. Morozova "and SE" Plant named after V.A. Malysheva "

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For the Day of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, defense enterprises that were still very closed, opened their doors: SE “KMDB named after A.A. Morozova "and SE" Plant named after V.A. Malysheva. The journalist of “Evening Kharkov” visited the both enterprises (link to the photo gallery from both enterprises).


The BTR-4 armored personnel carrier and the Dozor-B armored car in the assembly shop of the KAABM named after A.A. Morozova "(c) Evening Kharkov

What are they proud of at the factories today?

The weather that day was vile. From the morning the city was covered with snow, the traffic went irregularly, the trees fell from the gusts of wind and adhering sleet on motor vehicles and on the heads of passersby, the roads were not cleared. Having met the journalists at the entrance of the KMDB, a spokesman for Ukroboronprom, Lukyan Selsky, immediately warned that the Kiev authorities had not arrived - the airport did not accept.

Nevertheless, the presentation was not canceled, and journalists were invited to the first assembly workshop of the State Enterprise "KHMB named after A.A. Morozov. " General Designer of the State Enterprise “HCBM named after A.A. Morozova "Vladimir Vakulenko demonstrated prototypes tanks "BTR-3", "BTR-4", "Dozor-B" and installation "Willow".


BTR-4 armored personnel carrier with protective screens (c) Evening Kharkov

- Today, times have changed. If earlier our enterprise worked on heavy equipment, then today time requires not only tanks, but also light equipment for our army. Our developments are already embodied in the metal, - says Vladimir Vakulenko. - This is primarily a machine "BTR-4", which has already been adopted by the army. We can produce these tanks with engines of native production (the Malyshev plant) and foreign ones.

The general designer argues that both types of BTR vehicles showed themselves well in work, especially the new powerful tank armor, which was significantly different from the one used in the USSR.


Armored medical machine BMM-4С in repair (with) Vecherny Kharkiv

Shown at the factory and a prototype of the installation "Willow" - a new type of "Grad" - advanced and lightweight.

- “Willow” is seven times faster from the point of view of preparation for shooting and four times - from the point of view of transferring the topographic situation of the location and hitting the target. And this means that the enemy has less chances to detect a car, - explains Vladimir Vakulenko.

The general designer clarified that orders for a new installation have already been received, but Verba needs to be improved and tested, and this requires time (about 7 months) and 15,9 million UAH.

Another prototype, BM Dozor-B, was presented by the General Director of the KMDB, Yakov Mormilo.

- This is a more agile and speedy vehicle compared to the BTR - it has an imported Deutsch engine with 190 horsepower, an Alison automatic transmission, Michelin branded tires, four-wheel drive, automatic tire inflation, and a maximum speed of 110 km / h on the highway . Of weapons - machine gun 12,7 caliber, the system of collective protection, designed for a crew of seven.

Yakov Mormilo stressed that this is a fundamentally new machine for the Ukrainian army. She passed state tests, the car is being prepared to be adopted by the Armed Forces. The first prototype was made by the Lviv armored plant, which after the paperwork will produce the entire series of “Watch”.


Damage to the BTR-4 (c) Evening Kharkov

Opened the doors for journalists and GP "Plant them. V.A. Malysheva "- factory workers showed shop number 130, where they are engaged in assembling tanks. There the sharks of a feather were delivered on ... An armored troop-carrier, proposing to test the car in action.

Here, the chief engineer of the enterprise, Alexander Sheiko, presented two Bulat armored vehicles and a BM Oplot tank.

- The tank "Oplot" - the most modern machine, developed by the SE "KMDB named after A.A. Morozov "and the second plant design bureau, - assures Alexander Sheiko.


Tank BM "Oplot" (c) Evening Kharkov

In addition, the plant reported that they fulfilled the tasks set by the Ministry of Defense for the repair of BM Bulat. Several dozen combat vehicles entered service with the Ukrainian army.

“The upgraded version of the Bulat BM tank has been brought to the level of the T-81 tank in its characteristics,” Alexander Sheiko noted, not without pride.

According to him, the Ministry of Defense has already received an order for the supply of upgraded Bulatov and Strongholds, which will be adopted by the APU in 2016 year.


Assembling a tank BM "Oplot" (c) Evening Kharkov

I see a purpose, but I do not see obstacles!

On the experimental base of the state-owned enterprise “KKBM named after A.A. Morozova "the general director and general designer showed samples of simulators for future military specialists. As told by the staff of the laboratory of the state-owned enterprise KABC named after A.A. Morozov ”, these simulators imitate real machines, they can work out 90% driving and shooting skills.

“It’s easier, faster, cheaper and more qualitative to do it on simulators than on ready-made machines,” explains Vladimir Vakulenko.

According to him, the simulators have passed state tests and are in great demand. They have already been installed in some educational centers of Ukraine, and there is a state order for the supply of another batch.

At KB them. Morozova new chief


The management of the Ukroboronprom group of companies nevertheless arrived at the First Capital, only by train. Roman Romanov, general director of the concern, inspected the workshops, and then presented awards to specialists in the armored industry for contributing to the development, production and testing of an experimental model of the BM Dozor-B. And he promised to create conditions for the work of teams, including new equipment and decent wages.


Tankokot (c) Evening Kharkov


“We are developing a program for equipping and creating comfortable working conditions for work teams,” the general director said.

Commenting on the appointment of a new general director of the state enterprise “KMDB named after A.A. Morozov ”Jacob Mormilo, he noted:

- At the moment, several managers of defense enterprises of Ukraine have been replaced. And if in three months the state-owned enterprise “KKBM named after A.A. Morozov ”will not show positive dynamics, the new leader will suffer the fate of his predecessors.

By the way, representatives of the Lviv armored plant arrived in Kharkov with him to share their experience with their Kharkov colleagues, as well as to celebrate the Day of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Deliveries to Thailand remain in force


1 September 2011, the year Ukrspetsexport and representatives of the Royal Thai Army signed a contract according to which Ukraine should supply Thailand with 49 battle tanks Oplot. The contract must be completed before the end of 2015.
- But for financial reasons the work has been extended. When coordinated with the Ministry of Defense and with the permission of the Chief of the General Staff, sending a new batch of tanks to Thailand can be carried out as early as December of this year, and this contract should be completely closed in the 2016 year, said the chief engineer of the SE “Zavod im. V. A Malysheva.
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  1. +11
    11 December 2015 14: 26
    Only we can, we want ... request And besides junk repair, is there anything else? And something special is not observed in the workshops. smile
    1. +22
      11 December 2015 14: 28
      So many mistakes in the news - this is some kind of nightmare.
      1. +19
        11 December 2015 14: 33
        Quote: Sith Lord
        So many mistakes in the news - this is some kind of nightmare.

        After this "13,7 caliber machine gun" accuracy could not be sought. smile
        1. +15
          11 December 2015 14: 46
          Quote: Sith Lord
          So many bugs in the news - it's a nightmare

          Quote: Vladimirets
          After this "13,7 caliber machine gun"

          Such articles by local magazines hardly make sense to replicate through VO.
          1. +8
            11 December 2015 14: 51
            Press Secretary of Ukroboronprom Lukyan Selsky

            Already funny!
          2. +26
            11 December 2015 14: 55
            Quote: Alekseev
            Quote: Sith Lord
            So many bugs in the news - it's a nightmare

            Quote: Vladimirets
            After this "13,7 caliber machine gun"

            Such articles by local magazines hardly make sense to replicate through VO.

            Why in vain, we will know that these cars assembled by Russian hands will shoot at Russian people, all of this is sad.
            1. +10
              11 December 2015 15: 35
              I was very embarrassed by the tank with the coloring of the end of the barrel, is that for Lyashko?
              1. +2
                11 December 2015 15: 55
                Quote: cniza
                I was very embarrassed by the tank with the coloring of the end of the barrel, is that for Lyashko?


                In terms of mass and dimensions, it is unlikely to pass request Is that a secret gay lotion is available ??? !!! whatBanderlog, will be delighted !!! fellow
              2. +9
                11 December 2015 18: 13
                In fact, this is not the color of the barrel, but the applied varnish-pin, which is used to mark the workpiece for processing. In this case, it looks like this varnish was used to heighten the visual effect. And when I worked as a locksmith at PCM, I used (like other colleagues) this varnish for painting (the varnish was green, lilac, blue, reddish) the handles of plexiglass kitchen knives with foil inserted, which were made as orders were received from neighbors and neighbors, and just acquaintances. Good knives were forged technical stainless steel (I don't know the alloy marking). While you are making a knife, the soul sings. The blade was either polished to a mirror shine, or induced "frost". Eh-x-x, time!
            2. +3
              11 December 2015 15: 35
              I was very embarrassed by the tank with the coloring of the end of the barrel, is that for Lyashko?
              1. +6
                11 December 2015 16: 04
                Admins, what happens with the site?
              2. +2
                11 December 2015 16: 04
                Admins, what happens with the site?
              3. 0
                12 December 2015 15: 36
                Quote: cniza
                I was very embarrassed by the tank with the coloring of the end of the barrel, is that for Lyashko?

                Common preservative
        2. +6
          11 December 2015 14: 47
          Tankokot (s) Evening Kharkov - I remember it glowed in the Crimea with overhead lines - now it’s clear why half of the systems in the tanks do not work ...
        3. +10
          11 December 2015 15: 06
          Quote: Vladimirets
          After this "13,7 caliber machine gun"

          Yes, there are normal pearls before the machine gun.
          It feels like someone rewrote an old article a bit.
          Vladimir Vakulenko demonstrated prototypes tanks BTR-3, BTR-4, Dozor-B

          This is primarily the BTR-4 machine, which has already been adopted by the army. We can produce these Tanks as with engines

          Uncle with a wrench delivers.
          - Pneumatic wrench?
          - No, I have not heard.
          1. +1
            11 December 2015 17: 58
            Here, the chief engineer of the enterprise, Alexander Sheiko, introduced two Bulat armored vehicles and the BM Oplot tank.

            What kind of armored vehicles "Bulat"
        4. +4
          11 December 2015 17: 16
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: Sith Lord
          So many mistakes in the news - this is some kind of nightmare.

          After this "13,7 caliber machine gun" accuracy could not be sought. smile

          Well, the office patriot wrote so. It looks like peppy reports, as they are doing well. Ugh, disgusted to read. The article leaves some vile sensation ..
        5. +5
          11 December 2015 17: 34
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: Sith Lord
          So many mistakes in the news - this is some kind of nightmare.
          After this "13,7 caliber machine gun" accuracy could not have been sought.


          Honestly, colleagues, I read the article before my own comments, carefully, but in this case I haven’t even read it, I don’t see the point. Such grammatical and technical errors that you noticed speak for themselves. The article is uninteresting and not informative.
          As such an opinion, it is clear that the subjective, colleagues. hi
        6. +1
          11 December 2015 18: 02
          And this is the NATO standard in Ukrainian.
        7. +1
          11 December 2015 21: 30
          Reread again 12,7. The enemy must not be underestimated, but also overestimated
          1. 0
            11 December 2015 22: 06
            Quote: aziatt
            Reread again 12,7.

            Already fixed.
      2. +4
        11 December 2015 14: 36
        And you still do not know what journalists are gaining not in literacy and ability to weave lace of speech, but in the number of USE points ??
        1. +9
          11 December 2015 15: 21
          Quote: KBR109
          And you still do not know what journalists are gaining not in literacy and ability to weave lace of speech, but in the number of USE points ??

          Where in Ukraine? Journalists, after all, from there.
        2. +7
          11 December 2015 15: 31
          Quote: KBR109
          And you still do not know what journalists are gaining not in literacy and ability to weave lace of speech, but in the number of USE points ??

          Where in Ukraine? So there is no ege, and journalists from the Ukrainian newspaper.
      3. +5
        11 December 2015 15: 35
        In fact, in this situation, we need to discard all conventions such as "love" for the Slavic brothers and do everything so that this plant would be "destroyed" and closed because it produces equipment for the murder of the inhabitants of Donbass.
      4. 0
        11 December 2015 16: 42
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        So many mistakes in the news - this is some kind of nightmare.

        This news is not for us, those who are able to analyze information, but for those who eat any ... who will feed him ... and ask for supplements.
      5. 0
        12 December 2015 15: 38
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        So many mistakes in the news - this is some kind of nightmare.

        About how many wonderful discoveries
        Prepare the spirit of enlightenment
        And Experience, [son] of difficult errors,
        And Genius, [paradoxes] friend,

        The country of unknown people living contrary to the laws of physics
    2. +14
      11 December 2015 14: 42
      scribe, how to get in and out in this BTR4, where are the doors under the trellised screens? I can’t imagine it, through the top or bottom, and then through the door, but if the car is on? and it is urgent, and you’ll burn in this btr ...
      1. 0
        11 December 2015 14: 51
        He has a ramp in the stern, there are no doors on the sides.
        1. +1
          11 December 2015 14: 54
          Quote: Serg81
          He has a ramp in the stern, there are no doors on the sides.


          blind or what?
        2. +2
          11 December 2015 15: 18
          Quote: Serg81
          He has a ramp in the stern, there are no doors on the sides.


          He has no ramp. He has swing doors at the back! Look for the ramp pictures!
        3. +3
          11 December 2015 16: 06
          Quote: Serg81
          there are no doors on the sides.

          Take a close look at the photo - the open door is clearly visible there ... which is completely blocked by a lattice screen ... That is, you can open the door. but you won’t go further than the gratings ...
          1. +2
            11 December 2015 18: 02
            Quote: Albert1988
            That is, you can open the door. but you won’t go further than the gratings ...

            So it’s not necessary. The banderlog should burn out in its shell
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      2. -1
        11 December 2015 14: 51
        He has a ramp in the stern, there are no doors on the sides.
        1. +4
          11 December 2015 15: 33
          good to argue - there is a catapult
      3. +3
        11 December 2015 15: 47
        Quote: War and Peace
        scribe, how to get in and out in this BTR4, where the doors are under the trellised screens

        Quote: Serg81
        He has a ramp in the stern, there are no doors on the sides.

        Quote: vvp2412
        He has no ramp. He has swing doors at the back! Look for ramp pictures
        1. +5
          11 December 2015 16: 15
          Quote: vvp2412
          Look for the ramp pictures!

          But on the BTR-4MV the ramp is exactly ...
        2. +3
          11 December 2015 16: 21
          Quote: Chicot 1
          Quote: War and Peace
          scribe, how to get in and out in this BTR4, where the doors are under the trellised screens

          Quote: Serg81
          He has a ramp in the stern, there are no doors on the sides.

          Quote: vvp2412
          He has no ramp. He has swing doors at the back! Look for ramp pictures


          this is the airborne squad, and I'm talking about the mechanics of the driver and the senior in the front seats ...
          1. +1
            11 December 2015 16: 36
            Quote: War and Peace
            this is the airborne squad, and I'm talking about the mechanics of the driver and the senior in the front seats

            So, next time be more precise with the expression of thought, specify ... And with regards to the doors under the screens ...
            You can’t imagine how much more lousy it was for the IS-2 mechanic driver. He didn’t have that uncomfortable door, he didn’t even have a lousy hatch. However, they climbed and climbed ... and burned unfortunately ... But the tank passed the final stage of the war and officially remained in service until 1995 ...
            The Mekhvod on the "Abrams" is a little easier, but still, the working position and the location of the hatch are also not particularly suited to very quickly leaving the car in the event of an abnormal situation ...
            So this art on the BTR-4 is still quite bearable ...
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    4. +5
      11 December 2015 14: 50
      Quote: Vladimirets
      something special is not observed in the workshops.

      And the cat ??
      1. +7
        11 December 2015 14: 57
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        And the cat ??

        Cat yes, the cat is moving, looking for what to eat. smile
        1. +1
          11 December 2015 15: 27
          Quote: Vladimirets
          the cat moves, looking for what to eat.

          Himself would not gobble up there. There must be rats unmeasured. We had rats in our factory - goodthe size of a good dachshund Yes. One even jumped at me belay. I didn’t know that rats can fly like that sad ...
          1. +1
            11 December 2015 16: 23
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            rats can fly like that

            The magic pendal?
            1. +4
              11 December 2015 20: 57
              Quote: Vladimirets
              The magic pendal?

              No.
              Proletarian hatred ... sad
    5. +5
      11 December 2015 14: 53
      Workers are dressed in what much. And about the wrenches in Kharkov have not heard.
      1. +6
        11 December 2015 15: 15
        Moreover, they are dressed in winter clothes and also belted - they can’t see warmer in the workshop than on the street.
    6. +1
      11 December 2015 14: 57
      "At the moment, several heads of defense enterprises of Ukraine have been replaced. And if within three months the State Enterprise" KMDB named after A. Morozov "does not show positive dynamics, the new leader will suffer the fate of his predecessors."
    7. 0
      11 December 2015 15: 23
      Quote: Vladimirets
      And besides junk repair, is there anything else? And something special is not observed in the workshops.

      -------------------------
      In general, it gives the impression of a repair company, but not of a serial conveyor ... There are little tanks, they stand aside ... BTR-4 pleased with the grilles. How do I get through this screen noodle?
    8. +1
      11 December 2015 16: 01
      Quote: *
      at the factory they reported that they completed the tasks

    9. +1
      11 December 2015 16: 28
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Only we can, we can, we want ... But besides the repair of junk, is there anything else? And something special is not observed in the workshops.

      in the current situation (in Ukraine) "we can and we want" is worth a lot. there is no "local Putin" in Ukraine (that is, a person whom the overwhelming majority of the population trusts). and which power hand raises the defense industry. accordingly, any upward movement is perceived as a victory (unless the enterprise is in the sphere of interests presidential gang (there are orders constantly)).
      With regards to old stuff, the Thai military are satisfied with the Oplot (T-84) and Ukrainian armored personnel carriers. and we repair the old ones for our army (because, despite the loud statements of Ukrainian politicians, funds are allocated for our army ... ouin)
    10. +2
      11 December 2015 16: 31
      Quote: Vladimirets
      And something special is not observed in the workshops.

      laughingThis is normal, it is always done this way. So that one of the hard workers does not complain. The bosses report: "We work in three shifts, the salary is 10 thousand, components and materials are heaps. Thank you for your concern!" a week, a salary of 4 thousand, and arrears, spare parts - scrap and materials purchased through a tender on electronic trading platforms (if only cheaper) - a full g. Here are hard workers and can be too much. Because they are not. Then they will work. It was so with us under Azarov, nothing has changed.
    11. 0
      11 December 2015 17: 11
      Of course, the writer is the same, but it turns out in conditions of conflict, lack of money, etc. they are still doing something, because we will recover ahead and we will raise our hands.
    12. +1
      11 December 2015 19: 49
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Only we can, we can, we want ..

      "And if within three months the state enterprise" KMDB named after AA Morozov "does not show positive dynamics, the new leader will suffer the fate of his predecessors"
      Well now Ukrainians will work in three shifts, for 3000 hryvnia.
      Or maybe even free
  2. +3
    11 December 2015 14: 27
    Nevertheless, the presentation was not canceled, and journalists were invited to the first assembly shop of the state-owned enterprise “KMDB named after A.A. Morozov. General Designer GP "KMDB named after A.A. Morozov "Vladimir Vakulenko demonstrated prototypes of tanks" BTR-3 "," BTR-4 "," Dozor-B "and the installation" Willow ".
    Tanks?))) The first time I hear about such tanks
    1. +6
      11 December 2015 14: 38
      Did you hear about the T-81 tank ?? The upgraded version of the BM “Bulat” tank has been brought up to the level of the T-81 tank in terms of its characteristics, ”said Alexander Sheiko with pride. laughing
      1. +12
        11 December 2015 14: 44
        Quote: KBR109
        Did you hear about the T-81 tank ??

        It is a Galleon-class 8th class heavy intergalactic attack aircraft. Yes
  3. +11
    11 December 2015 14: 30
    Somehow everything in unreal looks. After all, like yesterday it was OUR, dear. And now, as a report from the rear of the enemy. And I don’t want to rejoice at their desolation and poverty. Vilely so.
  4. +4
    11 December 2015 14: 33
    Harvesters would be more useful.
    1. +3
      11 December 2015 15: 26
      Quote: ARES623
      Harvesters would be more useful.

      -------------------
      DAISH (ISIS) with excavators is making more noise than the APU tanks ... laughing
  5. +1
    11 December 2015 14: 35
    Well, not impressive
    1. +6
      11 December 2015 15: 52
      Quote: Volka
      Well, not impressive

      But I really liked this kote. The face is cunning, it goes everywhere ... It’s immediately obvious that our spy works for the FSB ...
      1. +1
        11 December 2015 23: 20
        Some kind of cat is too clean ... we have cats in the production always go grubby.
  6. +3
    11 December 2015 14: 41
    Harvesters would be more useful.
  7. +6
    11 December 2015 14: 46
    Why named after A.A. Morozov "and V.A. Malysheva? It's time to get rid of the communist legacy.
    Your heroes are few? So let’s tell you: a hundred heavenly lands (probably a division already), Shukhevych, Bandera and other rabble.
    PS It's strange that the armored personnel carriers did not write "To Donbass" or "Jidobander junior"
    ZYZY Of course, it is necessary to feed the workers of the family .... therefore they work hard ..... yeah I believe
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 15: 13
      ..... Of course, it is necessary to feed the workers of the family .... therefore they work hard ..... yeah I believe ...

      ... In the same way, the German workers in March-April 1945 injected hundreds and thousands of faustpatrons ... And what ??? ... Now these workers are sorry ???? .... request
      1. +1
        11 December 2015 19: 58
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        In the same way, German workers in March-April 1945 injected hundreds and thousands of faustpatrons

        For the sake of fairness, let's say that some of their ammunition did not explode, but inside they found notes - "We will help in any way we can." In particular, such a case is described in the book about scouts - a sickly aerial bomb landed next to the fighter
  8. +3
    11 December 2015 14: 47
    Deliveries to Thailand remain in force

    I like the optimism of the Thais.
    1. +4
      11 December 2015 14: 59
      Buddhism ... reincarnation ... if not in this, then in the next life ... smile
  9. +1
    11 December 2015 14: 55
    Old, rusty Soviet technology. Nothing will change there, never.
  10. +3
    11 December 2015 14: 56
    A sensible custom-made article on the topic: "I haven't died yet ..."
    Particularly pleased with the characteristics of the latest development:
    it is equipped with an imported Deutsch engine with a capacity of 190 horsepower, an Alison automatic transmission, Michelin branded tires, four-wheel drive, automatic tire inflation, and a maximum speed of 110 km / h on the highway.
    In general, "English overcoat, Belgian shoulder straps" ...

    Is there anything from Kharkov? Actually, at this speed, five hours and we are on the border ... with Poland!
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 15: 38
      Local cat - Kharkov)
    2. +1
      11 December 2015 17: 18
      We also have foreign engines on vehicles, boxes and tires.
  11. +1
    11 December 2015 15: 02
    Some kind of surrealism: rusty cars are hastily assembled and given to the troops. At the same time, there’s already no money for a campaign. But soon they promise to relieve, the dismissal of the new director and other blah blah blah. Damn, I have a 5-year-old son carefully collects the Lego-constructor cars collects.
  12. +3
    11 December 2015 15: 28
    Kotyara - see a spy
    1. +5
      11 December 2015 15: 58
      Quote: vnord
      Kotyara - see a spy

      Here is one (photo from the same report, but in this publication it seems to be not there). And also see spies ...
      1. +3
        11 December 2015 20: 35
        Yes, these plants have more cats than workers.
      2. 0
        16 December 2015 11: 41
        He is like a bad boy — he is waiting to find out the most important military secret from the Kibalchish.
  13. 0
    11 December 2015 15: 37
    Why is the cat so fat ?!
    1. 0
      16 December 2015 11: 40
      And he is there "looking". The rest have no time - they will forge them.
  14. +4
    11 December 2015 15: 37
    I was very confused by the color of the end of the barrel at the tank, is that for Lyashko? belay laughing
  15. -2
    11 December 2015 15: 51
    Judging by the photo, the bulwark turns out to be T-72 in body kits.
    1. +2
      11 December 2015 16: 05
      Quote: ramzes1776
      Judging by the photo, the bulwark turns out to be T-72 in body kits.

      "Seventy-second" is not in the photo. All objects have a T-80 base. This can be seen from the skating rinks ...
      In the full version of the report there is a photo with the modernized T-64 ...
  16. 0
    11 December 2015 15: 59
    Quote: Alekseev
    Quote: Sith Lord
    So many bugs in the news - it's a nightmare

    Quote: Vladimirets
    After this "13,7 caliber machine gun"

    Such articles by local magazines hardly make sense to replicate through VO.

    And you know, maybe it's worth it - to understand the breadth of the depths of Bandera thoughts. As Stirlitz said, you need to know the enemy by sight. I wonder what the workers and engineers of this plant think deep down - how to bake more of these armored "pies" or just feed the family somehow, or "I'll make this detail not 45 mm, but 44 mm?"
  17. +1
    11 December 2015 16: 26
    Judging by the caps, and thus the "quilted jackets", there is clearly no heat in the workshops ..
  18. +1
    11 December 2015 16: 40
    You can chuckle, but you should not consider everyone as idiots - they are more likely journalists. Regrettably, enterprises operate and produce equipment that will possibly shoot at us. In the same Nazi Germany there was an exodus of scientists, however it was the first in the world to create rockets and was one step away from creating an atomic bomb. Keep this in mind and keep the powder dry.
  19. +1
    11 December 2015 17: 41
    This breeder should be slammed so that he doesn’t let anything out.
  20. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 04
    In this material, the photographs said more than the text itself ... I was especially impressed by the photo of an armored personnel carrier with a fence ... Apparently, this is "dynamic protection" (against the dynamic that moves with the armored personnel carrier). Now "ukrovoy" will fight because of the fence? A very symbolic photo! Why, they have the whole country behind the fence ...
  21. +1
    11 December 2015 20: 13
    demonstrated prototypes tanks "BTR-3", "BTR-4", "Dozor-B" and installation "Willow"

    Heretic!
    This breeder should be slammed so that he doesn’t let anything out.

    Save! Even like a museum! T-34, with all its shortcomings, in advantages (its crews, including!), Surpassed all tanks of the world drinks .
  22. 0
    11 December 2015 20: 34
    Malyshevists and Morozovites have no conscience - to make military vehicles against their own people.
  23. 0
    11 December 2015 21: 04
    chassis on tanks, this is the t-80 chassis (St. Petersburg). and GTD remained or 6 TD stuck?
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      11 December 2015 22: 34
      Well, you yourself can't read what the T-84 line means and what kind of "dvigun" gets there?
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    11 December 2015 21: 41
    Everything is clear to you, patriots, of course, it’s good, but be sober, let the success of our military-industrial complex not get you drunk. the first T-34 was designed and built, the weapon is both good and bad, but the death of the weapons from which weapon you glue fins
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    12 December 2015 06: 18
    Quote: cniza
    Admins, what happens with the site?

    This impression is created after reading the comments that we are quietly starting to turn into a censor .... negative
  26. 0
    14 December 2015 16: 41
    It would be more correct to start the second paragraph of this article with the word "It's getting light ..." laughing