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Where is our not betrayed! Liberals in the service of Turkey

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Where is our not betrayed! Liberals in the service of Turkey



A prostitute can remain loyal to one man, a drug addict can play sports, and a Russian liberal can feed on one hand. But in this case, they will no longer be a prostitute, a drug addict and a Russian liberal.

Indeed, it is difficult to imagine a domestic oppositionist and one source of income as a whole, indivisible and complete. There is a disturbing feeling of unnaturalness and unreality of the picture drawn by imagination.

Just try it to make sure. Emotions will not lie.

This kind of confusion can be felt when the station beggar offers you his money, a petty street felon gives a mobile phone, and an implacable fighter with the Russian authorities refuses foreign financial assistance.

In our case - Turkish. After all, it is now very important for the Turks to prove their innocence, to convince the Russians of the irrationality of the sanctions and the inadequacy of the authorities, and to make them regret the burned-out permits. Therefore, they go for help to representatives of the liberal opposition.

This situation is clear and logical. You are throwing a coin to a beggar, giving a mob to a gopnik, learning from a liberal "expert" that "Russia is to blame for everything itself and demands unnecessary sacrifices from citizens. That's right and not the other way around, as they try to imagine."

Everyone has heard or read this, right? If not, then it's time to quote the classics of the genre.

Dmitry Gudkov:
"MP Levichev proposed banning flights to Turkey. That's right, she’s bad. I’m waiting for us to be offered to impose a food embargo on her. You can also send Turks from Russia, as was the case with the citizens of Georgia on 2008. Does this mean that wars are not will be, and there will be petty dirty tricks and the next spoiled relations, I don’t know. "

Vladimir Ryzhkov:
All professional political scientists know that one of the most frequent causes of the collapse of authoritarian regimes in the world stories in dozens of cases (including the USSR), the foreign policy adventures of the regimes, which turned out to be devastating for the economy and over time from the beginning of the adventure, were extremely unpopular among the population. An interesting feeling when you live as if inside a history textbook or a political science textbook. "

Mikhail Khodorkovsky:
"They got it. And so we were screwed about success in Antalya! Now look for pilots, assholes."


Everything is consistent, democratic, oppositional and, of course, not free. The difference is only in price.

It is ridiculous to assume that Khodorkovsky, like the poor Udaltsov, bought for some miserable 35 thousand dollars. There must be something serious, something corresponding to the level. Smuggled oil from Syria? Share in the tourism business? Why not.

In the case of Ryzhkov or Gudkov, one can assume anything, from money transfers to cozy villas on the Mediterranean coast. These guys are used to be content with little. As they say, better tit in the hands.

One thing is clear - the Russian oppositionist will never go to costs without being sure of their compensation. And since the costs are there, then there is no reason to doubt the availability of compensation. And it does not matter at all what it will be expressed.

It is common for people to repeat the usual pattern of actions, and domestic oppositionists are no exception. It is hard to imagine that, having become accustomed to earning political propaganda, they suddenly refuse to pay. Therefore, if there is liberal propaganda, then the fee is somewhere nearby.

Dressed in the monk's robe, the prostitute does not finish selling her body. Wearing a "sambovka" addict will not refuse a dose. Having made honest eyes, the Russian oppositionist will not stop lying and betraying. Otherwise, they will no longer be who they are. It will be completely different people.
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  1. Uran
    Uran 12 December 2015 09: 45
    +9
    interesting article
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 09: 50
      41
      Quote: Uranus
      interesting article

      Interesting and very tricky, NOW WILL BEGIN! laughing With this article they will check how many of us are left on the site of "shortcomings" ... You can't take a lie! wassat
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 12 December 2015 10: 03
        147
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        With this article they will check how many of us are left on the site of "shortcomings" ... You can't take a lie!

        But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin. More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But the situation is completely different now: they are ruthlessly minus if they see that you support your president. What is it? Is it really that way of looking at Putin’s actions has changed, or is it the work of the State Department, which has allocated a huge amount to the fight against our country, in social networks? A huge number of new nicknames have appeared that are aggressively opposed to our president. Is this the result of the work of the State Department, or am I somehow behind and don’t understand the current situation? Nevertheless, I am inclined to the first: a struggle is waged against us on all fronts, including on the liberal one. And we need to be fully prepared in relation to them. (You will see, the minuses will fly again now, but it’s kind of violet to me, let them go crazy.)
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 12 December 2015 10: 22
          +9
          on Putin’s actions
          probably the State Department raised the age for retirement, or did the State Department accept the Rottenberg tax or did the State Department make Russia drive coal to Ukraine two days ago? But I know for sure that after Putin’s conversation with Obama at the UN, Russia climbed into Syria. In recent years, there has been a massive destruction of education. medicine, Russian culture. Here are the achievements of the State Department. entry into the WTO, Juvenile Justice, baby boxes, Yeltsin's mausoleum. A very good excuse everywhere to look for enemies, or maybe the fifth column in the Kremlin?
          1. Mexovoy
            Mexovoy 12 December 2015 10: 28
            41
            Why didn’t the baby boxes please you? Do you think that it’s better to find corpses in garbage cans?
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 12 December 2015 10: 38
              36
              Do you think that it’s better to find corpses in garbage cans?
              For thousands of years, Russia has been growing its children, and now suddenly with corpses has it dumped all the garbage? Maybe you just don’t have to live according to the laws of the West?
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 12 December 2015 10: 49
                -25 qualifying.
                Maybe you just don’t have to live according to the laws of the West?
                The minuses must be thought of by supporters of the Western path of development. Well, Putin will help you.
                1. R-22
                  R-22 12 December 2015 11: 01
                  -12 qualifying.
                  No, minusers are not the supporters of the Western development path, but adequate people, but here you are trying to distort the facts. minus you
                  1. Homo
                    Homo 12 December 2015 11: 58
                    34
                    Quote: R-22
                    No, minusers are not the supporters of the Western development path, but adequate people, but here you are trying to distort the facts. minus you

                    I apologize for the question. How many "spine" runs do you have? And what are you doing on this forum? Firstly, a boor - a Pokeman, secondly - illiterate (there is not even an attempt to write correctly), thirdly - that there is a "western way of development" (gay parades, immeasurable debts to the IMF and the United States, to sell sovereignty, to start feeding the NATO army)! am
                    1. Bayun
                      Bayun 13 December 2015 20: 34
                      19
                      In Russia, even God and the Tsar were addressed to "you". "You" is brought into northern culture from the west; the soul is "YOU", and "you" means demons in a person, of which there is "legion". Even on "you" in Russia they used to address the enemies: "I am going to you."
                      1. BNVSurgut
                        BNVSurgut 14 December 2015 15: 21
                        -3
                        YOUR Excellency, YOUR Honor, do not deign to cite examples of YOUR statement from literature or official documents, and not from Zadornov’s speeches, be so fabulously kind.
                  2. Yugra
                    Yugra 14 December 2015 12: 39
                    0
                    What Khokhlyat farm do you grumble at, the State Department litter?
                    1. Starik72
                      Starik72 14 December 2015 14: 19
                      +2
                      Ugra. It is you who are turning to whom, write more specifically!
                2. Anchonsha
                  Anchonsha 12 December 2015 11: 36
                  -35 qualifying.
                  No, minuses are put to you, dear friends, by those who do not want Russia’s self-isolation like you because this is the right path to death, according to the Constitution, Russia is a socially oriented country in accordance with the interests of citizens, and excuse yourself to go to power Lukashenka like Belarus , already ate, now at least you can express your opinion without fear, but ate not at all enough and not all yet, but most, we don’t go to Moscow for a sausage. tangerines. The main thing is not to steal to anyone and work hard, so that we have all the conditions for freedom and creativity, but so that no one equals us at the bureaucratic discretion, but gets what we earned
                  1. onix757
                    onix757 12 December 2015 11: 47
                    14
                    Quote: Anchonsha
                    No, minuses to you, my friend, put by those who do not want self-isolation of Russia

                    But how can one pinch one place to the west at the same time, read the interests and shout about friendship in the remaining click?
                  2. onix757
                    onix757 12 December 2015 11: 51
                    +5
                    Quote: Anchonsha
                    Russia is a socially oriented country in accordance with the interests of citizens, and to put yourself in the power of such Lukashenko as in Belarus, I'm sorry, move in,

                    In Russia, there are practically no social benefits left, and therefore people feel unprotected, but in Belarus there is exactly the opposite situation. For example, in Belarus people pay 100 r for our major repairs of a house, and this despite the fact that the repair schedules are not 25-30 years, when either the shah or the donkey ..
                    1. natakor1949
                      natakor1949 12 December 2015 15: 38
                      22
                      My dear onyx, the Old Man always asks for something from us, and not we from him, so remember who is more self-sufficient. And then when help is needed, then to us, and immediately condemn our actions. It is indecent, the Russian people see and analyze everything. Yes, by the way, we still have all the social benefits, lying is indecent.
                      1. onix757
                        onix757 12 December 2015 15: 47
                        +6
                        My dear onyx, the Old Man always asks for something from us, and not we from him, so remember who is more self-sufficient

                        The point is not what he asks, the point is that he is not given anything for free, even within the framework of the notorious "union state" and a single defense space. But the fact that he did not want to give his industry to our oligarchy is an absolutely justified step. They would have stolen everything now and sold for a pittance.
                        Now what does the Russian Federation get from Belarus, 1) mechanical engineering products for the needs of the military-industrial complex 2) a friendly army in the west (the only one for a minute) 3) the only remaining route to the west. So can sometimes thank you learn to speak?
                      2. alekc75
                        alekc75 14 December 2015 07: 18
                        +3
                        without components from Russia, the Old Man will not do anything, even cars and refrigerators
                      3. go21zd45few
                        go21zd45few 14 December 2015 09: 07
                        +1
                        And for that, thank you for saying that your dad, like a shy schoolboy, constantly tweaks the buttons to the president of Russia. You can’t rely on Lukashenko just like Erdagan can stab him in the back for the sake of his ambitions, which he’s meanly doing now . This is not an ally but a shifter. Well, we already produce heavy tractors ourselves.
                      4. ksan
                        ksan 14 December 2015 13: 47
                        +1
                        But the fact that he did not want to give his industry to our oligarchy was an absolutely justified step.
                        Yes Yes wink And Qatar can be given the fertilizer market and sell weapons. And where will it go, I'm talking about Soviet weapons, not in ISIS ??
                        Friendly army in the west (the only one for a minute
                        And why do not they want to place the base of the Russian Aerospace Forces ?? What did Russia ask for?
                        So can sometimes thank you learn to speak?
                        To me this rhetoric is somewhat reminiscent of KHOHLYATSKAYA. WE SHOULD ALL say thank you, give unmeasured loans, give cheap oil, gas, weapons, and in response to reproaches, smuggling of goods prohibited for import and zero support for "allies" on international issues. And what about the Crimea "Batka bleated" ??, and in Syria at least a company of cooks or a company of guards, purely for show-off, weak ??, and to recognize Abkhazia and Ossetia, poorly "soyuznichki" ?? fellow
                    2. ancient
                      ancient 12 December 2015 15: 56
                      -9
                      Quote: natakor1949
                      Yes, by the way, we still have all the social benefits, lying is indecent.


                      Oh well .. and the "Law on Veterans"? wassat And what about the "indexation of high-ranking pensions" in connection with the introduction of a "reduction factor" (only for a certain category of military pensioners, well, those .. who are mainly in the "trenches")? wassat
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                    5. Aleksandr Tot
                      Aleksandr Tot 13 December 2015 09: 43
                      14
                      And I served in the army (reserve officer) and in the 90s not only "obviously lived" - I survived with my whole family. I and my children of liberastism and communism took a sip in full.
                      Well, about "Ugh ..." - an adult argument! The result of the symbiosis of knowledge and intelligence. Powerful!
                    6. goblin xnumx
                      goblin xnumx 14 December 2015 15: 53
                      +3
                      to occupy the position of an average com staff, does not mean to be an officer, and you have trouble with observation :)
                3. 8 inches
                  8 inches 13 December 2015 00: 03
                  +4
                  how rashly to judge by the flag ... and the thing is simpler - it is older than you. and probably much. He simply has more everyday experience. I do not advise you to neglect it.
                4. Aleksandr Tot
                  Aleksandr Tot 13 December 2015 09: 26
                  +4
                  8 inches. Even if he is older, it is not at all a fact that his "everyday experience" brought him closer to the truth. The ancient may have walked through life faster and more confidently, but I doubt that in the right direction. Do not "neglect" the experience of others with different experiences.
                  And further. I did not ask for advice.
                  I say goodbye to this.
                5. 8 inches
                  8 inches 13 December 2015 11: 59
                  -3
                  forward. stubbornness is the virtue of donkeys. goodbye.
                6. Aleksandr1959
                  Aleksandr1959 14 December 2015 00: 21
                  +3
                  The ancient can and went through life faster and more confidently, but I doubt that the right direction.

                  In order not to doubt, we would talk with a person.
                  And further. I did not ask for advice.

                  So why are others trying to give them?
                  And the 90s, many of us in the army passed. You are no exception.
          2. Siberian
            Siberian 14 December 2015 17: 41
            +4
            All benefits to mothers, large families, children, pensioners, all veterans of all (including labor). the poor - everything is saved. I personally pay as an accountant, so I know for sure.
            Well, maybe for Khodorkovsky they did not find benefits. it is yes. I admit it.
            In addition, Russia pays everyone a pension. who earned it here and dumped it in all kinds of Germany, Outskirts. Maternity capital is recounted and paid to Crimeans retroactively.
            This is all, apparently. from lack of money in the treasury.
          3. Lucy
            Lucy 15 December 2015 00: 57
            +1
            Commentary on the information which privileges on mainland Russia were removed, with all the delights of Russian legislation.
            It is better to read Federal Law No. 5, and not the benefits that exist in 2015. in Crimea (http://www.socialnaya-podderzhka.ru/socialnaja_podderzhka_v_regionah/respublika_

            krym /)
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      2. Vladislav 73
        Vladislav 73 12 December 2015 23: 58
        +6
        Social benefits are saved ... on paper! It is for you, natakor1949, it would be worth asking. Before you lie Free medicine, where is it? Only in the Constitution ... Free kindergartens, school? My son just finished school, we know, have heard! 3 months ago my daughter was born-children (pennies) are still listed, they will not list in any way ... keep your pocket wider! Further enumerate about the "welfare state"? Shame and shame!
      3. 8 inches
        8 inches 13 December 2015 00: 04
        +4
        you will tell them how much the child allowance for the child is now .. they don’t even know what a huge amount this is ..
      4. core
        core 14 December 2015 09: 17
        0
        what kind of heroism is it that the state would ask for money FOR YOUR CHILDREN. and cry. that give little. completely scotched.
      5. 8 inches
        8 inches 14 December 2015 12: 50
        0
        такие such as you roused. I ask, I personally don’t ask anything. I do everything myself. But what the state offers for children is bestiality. Moreover, it’s complete. But you don’t know this. The whole style of your writing betrays the youth with your head. to talk about what you don’t have. and, moreover, to stop yelling with caps in every message. This is at least not decent.
      6. core
        core 14 December 2015 14: 19
        -3
        specifically scotch. if you don’t even understand that children IT IS YOUR, and not the state, you are obliged to feed and dress them. educate and educate, educate correctly, so that we ourselves would not be left orphans in old age.
        You turn women into sows. Look everywhere for income. it is pure water prostitution. we don’t give birth to children, the state pays little money for birth.
        ask your mother how much the state paid her for your birth. you are apparently stupid youngsters.
      7. hrough
        hrough 14 December 2015 18: 39
        0
        Quote: core
        ask your mother how much the state paid for your birth.

        Ask your mother how much quartet her wages were relative to wages, ask your mother how many pediatric doctors she had in the district clinic and what qualifications they had, ask how much she paid for sending her children to kindergarten, how much she paid for this the kindergarten paid how much tuition at the school cost (unofficial requisitions) and a bunch of such questions.
        We give birth and raise not only our children, but also citizens of the state. And the state should be interested in ensuring that its citizens grow up full-fledged.
        And you either don't have children yet, or they study in "Oxfords" and Russian "childish" problems are far from you.
      8. core
        core 14 December 2015 22: 20
        0
        maybe you forgot, and I’m not like half the country galloping around Moscow with delight, no worse than hah..lov on the Maidan. everyone wanted democracy and capitalism. and prices and social programs as in socialism. For that fought for it and ran. and the officer's honor was forgotten which state was sworn in. and now his eyes opened, surprised. CAPITALISM. and he is like that, you have to pay for everything. the government is honest with us, it gives us time to adapt.
        and problems, and not only for children, are for everyone, both for the poor and for the rich.
        and someone if something is missing. or thinks that he does not live well, go on an "excursion" to the children's HOSPICE, you will immediately open your eyes to your happy life.
      9. 8 inches
        8 inches 15 December 2015 14: 44
        +1
        what kind of children .. you can see who writes in style. he himself is child and has no idea what it means to raise children .. another ololo idiot ... and he’ll probably pull on the maximum so it’s the manager on the supermarket.
  2. Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 14 December 2015 09: 30
    +2
    8 inches, voiced. I don’t know, in different regions, probably in different ways, Chelyabinsk. In marriage, 2 children, with all kinds of capes and increases, about 3 thousand. I consulted with my wife specially. Minimum allowance, married, 1 child, 1,5 thousand. The maximum allowance is a single mother, 2 children. About 6 thousand rubles. Great money! belay
  3. bullss
    bullss 14 December 2015 12: 36
    +4
    I understand that some people do not know how to use social benefits or simply do not know about them. This does not mean that they are not.
    Life example: when the wife gave birth to their first child, they decided that they had to pay and everything would be fine. Paid ... everything was like everyone else. On the second - nothing was paid and the "service" did not fall. One child went to kindergarten for 400 rubles a month, the second goes free at all. The senior was taken to school without bribes and fees. I've been here for two weeks in the hospital on compulsory medical insurance (i.e. I didn't pay anything). Also, pensioners do not pay transport and property taxes.
    In my opinion, when they say that there is nothing social, to put it mildly, they are cunning.
  4. 8 inches
    8 inches 14 December 2015 12: 45
    +2
    you are lucky. they won’t just take us to the municipal kindergarten. They won’t refuse but they won’t be confused. Ask for it differently depending on the region. Officially, the fee for kindergarten in our area is far from elite, about 2 thousand a month. Plus water protection fees and other. yes and that’s not the point, the thing is that the bureaucrats scream that everything is for children and in fact there is nothing. Which of us can say that he recently built a state kindergarten in the city? Yes, no one ..
  5. 8 inches
    8 inches 14 December 2015 12: 39
    0
    I didn’t even make them out. I’ll leave handouts to the idiots.
  6. Lucy
    Lucy 15 December 2015 01: 07
    +1
    Vladislav 73 will soon find out which scholarship is being paid.
  7. sds87
    sds87 15 December 2015 09: 33
    0
    For pensioners near Moscow, reduced travel in Moscow on public transport has been canceled. "Thanks" to the governor Vorobyev - thus the plundered budget was patched up.
  • although
    although 14 December 2015 09: 10
    +2
    Quote: onix757
    There are practically no social benefits in the Russian Federation

    How so? I have a vacation, they get sick leave, the senior one is studying for free at the technical school. And I work in a commercial organization, what benefits do you miss? milk for harm?
    1. 8 inches
      8 inches 14 December 2015 13: 03
      +3
      Well, firstly, you earn your own vacation. Take an interest with the bogalter as the accruals go. And the hospital, by the way, all organizations pay taxes. Studying in college, they won’t take the money from you. It’s already paid by the state and not by you. No one asks for taxes. Nobody just shouts from all angles about the state’s concern for children. It doesn’t. Here is an excerpt from the document.

      Benefit amount in 2015
      In 2014, the amount of assistance for children under three years of age paid every month was 50 rubles. However, this amount may differ depending on the mother’s place of residence and her income, since it is affected by the coefficient set for a particular region (for example, for Moscow, the amount of the allowance for mothers with an income below the subsistence level is 2000 rubles).

      In 2015, no special changes are foreseen in the amount of this payment.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 December 2015 11: 52
    11
    No, minuses
    my question about the minuses concerned only one thing. Are there really so many who think that the Russians cannot raise their children and throw them in landfills.
    according to the Constitution, Russia is a socially oriented country in accordance with the interests of citizens
    citizens of Rottenberg, Chubais. Serdyukov, the rest need to think not citizens?
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 14 December 2015 09: 19
      +4
      my question about the minuses concerned only one thing. Are there really so many who think that the Russians cannot raise their children and throw them in landfills.
      Of course they can, but not all and not always! And then you will read ... Immediately in my head are the images of the epic Russian heroes and golden-haired maidens, everyone's faces are ruddy, their eyes are directed ... And the reality is much more prosaic, and only one of yours I want, nothing will change. And stop seeing the Kremlin's fault in everything. The people are worthy of the government that ... The government, you know, was formed from a vacuum hi
  • Sigizbarn
    Sigizbarn 13 December 2015 10: 58
    18
    So somehow I don’t understand why some citizens think that Europe and the USA are the whole world?
    Why does the protection of national interests become self-isolation?
    For those who still think that the West is good and light, I protested Lord Palmerston: "How hard it is to live when no one is at war with Russia."
    Why is putting the aggressor in its place is a national mistake?
    Why, when in any country does a person say that he loves his homeland, is he a patriot, and if it is Russian, is he an extremist?
    Beginning with Peter I in Russia, the first thing they look at is what enlightened Europe will think of us as barbarians. How much evil was done for statehood because of an eye on the interests of European powers?
    Maybe it's time to start looking at your interests first?
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 13 December 2015 11: 14
      10
      Quote: Sigizbarn
      Since Peter I
      Not at all. Peter I strove to modernize the country by adopting the achievements of Europe, but he never crouched before her. And quite calmly fought with European Sweden.
      Quote: Sigizbarn
      So somehow I don’t understand why some citizens think that Europe and the USA are the whole world?
      "Our Russian liberal is first of all a lackey and only looks at how to clean someone's boots"
      "This fact expresses the whole essence of Russian liberalism of the kind I am talking about. Firstly, what is liberalism, if we speak at all, if not an attack (reasonable or erroneous, that's another question) on the existing order of things?" Well, so my fact is that Russian liberalism is not an attack on the existing order of things, but an attack on the very essence of our things, on the very things, and not just one order, not the Russian order, but the very Russia. My liberal has gone so far as to deny Russia itself, that is, he hates and beats his mother. Every unfortunate and unfortunate Russian fact arouses laughter and almost delight in him. He hates folk customs, Russian history, everything. If there is for him an excuse, except that he does not understand what he is doing, and takes his hatred of Russia for the most fruitful liberalism "
      (Fedor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky)
      1. ksan
        ksan 14 December 2015 13: 59
        0
        He hates folk customs, Russian history, everything. If there is an excuse for him, it is perhaps that he does not understand what he is doing, and he takes his hatred of Russia for the most fruitful liberalism "
        (Fedor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky)
        To the article about Russian liberals who hate everything OWN and bow to everything ALIEN, not only Fedor Mikhailovich expressed himself in a similar vein, but also Pushkin and Karamzin and many worthy people of Russia.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 14 December 2015 19: 49
        0
        Quote: ksan
        not only Fedor Mikhailovich expressed himself in a similar vein

        Yes I know.
  • shpilkerman
    shpilkerman 14 December 2015 12: 50
    +1
    Yes, after reading our Constitution, you immediately realize that Russia is its own enemy. Change it to * ren.
    1. 3axap82
      3axap82 14 December 2015 15: 11
      -2
      What needs to be changed in your constitution?
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    1. 3axap82
      3axap82 15 December 2015 21: 19
      +1
      Is that you or the author of Anchonsha?
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  • Nikolay K
    Nikolay K 12 December 2015 14: 13
    16
    There is such a Russian proverb, if the face did not come out, then there is nothing to blame on the mirror. Cons put by those who have already gotten constant nods to the west, that it’s their fault. Tired of these lamentations, honestly. It is not necessary to the evil uncle nod nigger, and to restore order in their own country.
  • lisenok2027
    lisenok2027 14 December 2015 09: 18
    0
    You need to live by your own rules and foundations that have developed over the centuries in Russia.
  • ksan
    ksan 14 December 2015 12: 52
    0
    Guardamir (4) RU December 12, 2015 10:49 ↑
    Maybe you just don’t have to live according to the laws of the West? Pros of the Western development path put the minuses. Well, Putin will help you.
    It is necessary to live according to OWN laws, and from the West to take only the best, technology, development, etc. and do not drag HERE any shit like Tolerance and immense Liberalism. And Putin, by the way about the birds, OUR President, and for all the time in Russia, Russia, the USSR, one of the best leaders who have ever ruled OUR country. And you don’t need to sculpt God from him, HE is just a person with strengths and weaknesses, with strengths and weaknesses, with friends and enemies, supporters and opponents, as well as with commitments, agreements, promises and a ton of information about EVERYTHING, even about which we do not suspect. So in this case, Putin and US and YOU to help. hi
  • ksan
    ksan 14 December 2015 12: 53
    0
    Well, Putin will help you.
    And what is the best candidate ??? wassat
  • Evgtan
    Evgtan 14 December 2015 15: 15
    0
    put you a plus, there is a joke on this subject: -
    At a lecture on political science:
    - Go to the pigsty. Those pigs that are at the trough are quietly slurping, and those that have been wiped off and trying to break through are screaming frantically.
    That, in fact, is all you need to know about the opposition in Russia.
  • tomket
    tomket 12 December 2015 13: 28
    +6
    Quote: Gardamir
    For thousands of years, Russia has grown its children,

    Let's get away from the big words that "from time immemorial, Mother Rus raised", we just admit that neither you nor your opponent in this matter have statistics, how many lives baby boxes have saved and how often they are found in the trash heaps.
  • sovetskyturist
    sovetskyturist 12 December 2015 15: 14
    10
    For thousands of years, Russia has been growing its children, and now suddenly with corpses has it dumped all the garbage? Maybe you just don’t have to live according to the laws of the West?
    you are probably right, but we have what we educate
    From the geometry textbook for grade 8 we learn: A quadrilateral is a figure consisting of four segments, such that one of the ends of the first segment serves as the end of the other, the other end of the second - the end of the third, the other end of the third serves as the end of the fourth and the other end of the fourth - coincides with the end first. (Is it possible that mathematicians wrote this definition? It seems that a third-grader wrote so ineptly. But what does the old, professional definition do not suit?)
    no comment
    “A branch fell from a tree onto a passing deer. The deer noticed that it fell along a parabolic trajectory of movement. He determined the fall rate of the branch. Help the deer calculate the volume of the Earth. " Or another physics task: He dreamed that he had turned into a capacitor, which some fish-like creature was trying to incorporate into an alternating current network with a period of oscillation of 0,1 s. He woke up when he felt with horror how a current with an effective value of 0,5 A started to run through it. What was the voltage amplitude?
    1. 8 inches
      8 inches 12 December 2015 16: 17
      +9
      hmm ... children write a dictation-fish was sitting on a tree. the teacher but the fish do not live on the trees !!!!! well .. it was a crazy fish ....
      1. Angara
        Angara 14 December 2015 06: 48
        0
        Quote: 8 inches
        children write a dictation-fish was sitting on a tree. the teacher but the fish do not live on the trees !!!!! well..this was a crazy fish

        Hi inch! Do you like fairy tales? Which category do you belong to as junior or secondary scientists? wink
    2. the villain
      the villain 13 December 2015 15: 13
      +6
      Quote: sovetskyturist
      A branch fell from a tree onto a passing deer. The deer noticed that it fell along a parabolic trajectory of movement. He determined the fall rate of the branch. Help the deer calculate the volume of the Earth. " Or another physics task: He dreamed that he had turned into a capacitor, which some fish-like creature was trying to incorporate into an alternating current network with a period of 0,1 s. He woke up when he felt with horror how a current with an effective value of 0,5 A started to run through it. What was the voltage amplitude?


      I recalled here, the old school joke ... Given: Two crocodiles sailed, one green, and the second to the north. Question: how much is a meter of seeds if you bite off a bolt from a steam locomotive belay And the multiplication table and tasks ... Oh, burn Fursenke in hell. negative
      1. Angara
        Angara 14 December 2015 06: 51
        +1
        Quote: Villain
        Given: Two crocodiles sailed, one green, and the second to the north. Question: how much is a meter of seeds if you bite off a bolt from a steam locomotive

        Hello! Just remember: two crocodiles flew one green another to the north. Question: Why do I need a refrigerator if I do not smoke wassat
    3. Zefr
      Zefr 14 December 2015 09: 06
      +2
      The deer could not see that the branch fell along a parabola, because, firstly, he would have to determine its center of mass directly on the fly, by observation, and even a deer is hardly capable of this, and secondly, for the branch to fall along parabola, it is required to give it an initial horizontal impulse. The deer could give impetus to the branch only with its horns, and the branch falling off should have hit him on the forehead, which would definitely violate the purity of observation, because from the impact, the branch would change its trajectory (according to the condition of the problem, the branch fell ON a running deer), and the deer would receive a concussion. Therefore, the answer will be: "In the forest, 1,76 times more foresters are required to clear the forest, because old trees are already a danger to forest deer."
  • unfriendly
    unfriendly 14 December 2015 21: 42
    0
    I’ll add two points from myself:
    1 It is psychologically more difficult to dump a child in a garbage bin than in a baby box - direct permission to commit a SIN, but without criminal consequences.
    2 I'm afraid to seem like a nationalist, but in the garbage cans of the Russian Federation they often find children with a non-Slavic appearance.
    YOU plus from the heart.
  • Maj.
    Maj. 12 December 2015 19: 35
    +4
    Dear, do you think that it is better to find corpses in the workplace? The Ministry of Health and other dependent institutions will easily extend the average life (on paper) of life. They also say that we don’t understand the benefits of a later retirement. Life will be better. Or it might be better not to squander money, take a look at who has what salaries, for which huge sums get for example our chosen ones, etc. And then if there is not enough money in the treasury (not our fault with you), it doesn’t matter — there are people who will take it from us and let them not see the white light and die at work or on the way to work. So where is it better to collect corpses? I think that in order not to collect the corpses, it is nevertheless necessary to pay attention to the lives of people, for example, in provinces where young healthy people can’t find work ... And still, try to improve our life and not finish it by increasing the retirement age, for example
  • Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 12 December 2015 11: 24
    +6
    Listen, dear friend, why did this whole foreign country raise the retirement age? Listen, and where in the economic crisis do countries increase their investments in medicine, science, and culture? It's not about fat, but I would be living. Now the West rushing to Russia to crush, and you want frills ?; if they had not gone to Syria, now the Black Sea Fleet would have been locked in the Black Sea; If it weren’t for the WTO, but we had entered there on good conditions, not like Ukraine, then where would we sell our steel, copper. carbide metals? But with your views, my friend, you are the fifth column, whose left leader is serving a sentence for conspiring about a coup in Russia with Georgians
    1. onix757
      onix757 12 December 2015 11: 44
      +8
      Quote: Anchonsha
      Listen, dear friend, why did this whole foreign country raise the retirement age? Listen, and where in the economic crisis do countries increase their investments in medicine, science, and culture?

      And for a long time abroad for you in authority? The crisis is, of course, economic, but not due to objective reasons, but subjective, sanctions are targeted purposefully. The question is, what has the country been preparing for all 15 years? To defend their interests or kiss the gums with the West? And yes, the budget for the 16th year has cut spending on social programs, education and medicine, and now some of the government are proposing to reduce defense by 3%
      1. atalef
        atalef 12 December 2015 16: 09
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: onix757
        The crisis is, of course, economic, but not due to objective reasons, but subjective, sanctions are targeted purposefully.

        Sanctions are the answer to certain actions - isn't that so?
        Quote: onix757
        . The question is, what has the country been preparing for all 15 years?

        Moreover, oil will always be expensive and more expensive, and Europe will be ready to stand up for gas for gas
        Quote: onix757
        To defend their interests or kiss gums with the West?

        So how is it ? The economy had to be defended.
        Quote: onix757
        Yes, the budget for the 16th year has cut spending on social programs, education and medicine, and now some more from the government are proposing to reduce defense by 3%

        You have no doubt - they will cut it.
        1. alexej123
          alexej123 12 December 2015 18: 56
          +2
          And tell me at what age in Israel a pension? I was not there, people said that in 70 years. True? Why then are you not outraged?
      2. ANTI.KORR.
        ANTI.KORR. 12 December 2015 16: 28
        +8
        Quote: Anchonsha
        why did the whole foreign country raise the retirement age?

        Because there life span allows.
        about our country, "darling", should I tell you?
        Quote: Anchonsha
        Listen, and where in the economic crisis do countries increase their investments in medicine, science, and culture?

        And where else in the world except the Russian Federation did you see the crisis?
        Our leadership came up with a crisis, and we, damn it, tighten our belts.
        Quote: Anchonsha
        Now the West is rushing to Russia,

        Along the way, fl. you rush and flatten from the duroscope, "darling" wink
        Quote: Anchonsha
        If not for the WTO, and we went there on good conditions, not like Ukraine, wherever we sell our steel, copper. carbide metals?

        What to say to that? request
        Actually, of those semi-finished products that you, "friend" listed, you had to build planes, machine tools, steamers, and not take them out through dumping to the very west that "rushes" at you. fool
        Quote: onix757
        But with your views, my friend, you are the fifth column, whose left leader is serving a sentence for conspiring about a coup in Russia with Georgians

        It is a militant form of ignorance bordering on insanity. yes
        Haloperidol to help you, "little friend".
        1. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 21: 54
          0
          For ANTI.KORR - re-read yourself. Not funny, much less truth.
          Illiteracy is out of touch with a haloperidor. The mention of this medicine without justification looks like rudeness, and with a calculation.
          Militant form of ignorance - what are you talking about? Is it your intention to impress with your set of words? Written for you scripts.
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      4. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 12 December 2015 18: 22
        +2
        Quote: onix757
        sanctions are targeted.

        Exactly so, the sanctions were directed against a narrow group of people, and our authorities transferred them to the whole people.
        Here everything is intelligibly stated:
        1. Yars
          Yars 12 December 2015 20: 14
          +4
          Quote: Stroporez
          Quote: onix757
          sanctions are targeted.

          Exactly so, the sanctions were directed against a narrow group of people, and our authorities transferred them to the whole people.

          the manager of the manager of property let him deal with the manager of property and not stick his nose into power and not slander the president! Yes, and his comrade Citizen Potapenko (a big oligarch), let him also put his nose into power, let him do his own business! Paul speech is a complete lie! Before talking about PLATO, let us first take a look at Euro-specific prices for roads and taxes! In Europe, peasants pay as much for fuel as everyone else, that is, 1,10 € - 1,20 €, and this despite the fact that Igilov oil flows through Turkey to Europe, otherwise the price would have been 1,50 €! Fu, disgusting to hear about cried nonsense!
          1. ancient
            ancient 12 December 2015 20: 34
            -4
            Quote: YARS
            Before talking about PLATON, then let it be at the beginning of European prices for roads and taxes!


            For the "especially gifted" - maybe first take the ROADS themselves, not the directions .. this time ... or maybe first the standard of living and security is two, for you .. especially gifted people are told .. that the Rotenberg tax is "DESERT" , which is being cut for the THIRD time, because. there is already a Road TAX and Fuel Excise Tax !!!
            Yes, they have peasants pay, only for some reason they have subsidies and there was a guaranteed sale of products !!!

            And you to Potapenko and Sternum ... how to Moscow ... in the sea-food position ... crawl ... "loyal subject" tongue
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            2. Yars
              Yars 12 December 2015 21: 24
              +9
              Quote: ancient
              Quote: YARS
              Before talking about PLATON, then let it be at the beginning of European prices for roads and taxes!


              For the "especially gifted" - maybe first take the ROADS themselves, not the directions .. this time ... or maybe first the standard of living and security is two, for you .. especially gifted people are told .. that the Rotenberg tax is "DESERT" , which is being cut for the THIRD time, because. there is already a Road TAX and Fuel Excise Tax !!!
              Yes, they have peasants pay, only for some reason they have subsidies and there was a guaranteed sale of products !!!

              And you to Potapenko and Sternum ... how to Moscow ... in the sea-food position ... crawl ... "loyal subject" tongue

              Well, judging by the shoulder straps you "we have a particularly gifted" otherwise how to call a liberal who "kicked" such shoulder straps for himself here ?! Surely "patriotic" pictures and statements! What level of life are we talking about? How do you compare the standard of living? Do you remember the dear ones in Russia in the 90s when your favorites were the liberals ?! That people like you "especially gifted" were not heard then, because everything suited your owners then! Building roads is not getting money for trolling, the process is long and the result is obvious! So "gifted" like you, you need to understand that there is a measure for everything and development too, but piz ... do not carry bags!
              1. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 22: 01
                0
                I wanted to put +, but it did not work. YaRS, you're right.
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 12 December 2015 22: 03
                0
                Quote: YARS
                Well, judging by the shoulder straps you "we have a particularly gifted" otherwise how to call a liberal who "kicked" such shoulder straps for himself here ?!

                but a Ukrainian from Germany came to teach.
                Listen, uncle Ukrainian, maybe you’ll be better off hanging your labels on everyone who doesn’t fit into the narrow matrix of your brain. You tell the Hans in Germany who is good and who is not, and we will figure it out without you!
                Bach? chi sho?
              3. Aleksandr1959
                Aleksandr1959 13 December 2015 14: 51
                +1
                To call the ancient liberal ... wassat
                You will find a drop of "liberalism" in it. But the critical way of thinking is present in full.

                and piz ... not carry bags!

                It is still necessary to see who does what.
              4. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 15 December 2015 01: 57
                +8
                Your "ancient", read even more disgusting than "liberals", they at least do not disguise themselves as normal people! From your "ancient" Russophobia rushing for three miles! What to take from a loser who went abroad and only there realized that in Russia it was still better, because there, at least you are at home!

                P.S. The author of the post is right at the beginning of the topic, VO has become a haven for liberals, Russophobes and Nazi shortcomings! There was no such influx of a certain substance three months ago!
              5. Aleksandr1959
                Aleksandr1959 15 December 2015 21: 42
                +1
                Diana Ilyina And why did you decide that he lives abroad? Just because of the flag beside his avatar? If we carefully read his messages, then they can clearly and clearly understand in which area in Russia he lives. In my opinion, he cannot be called a loser. Perhaps I and YOU have different evaluation criteria. The person who performed military, civil, international duty, defended the constitutional system of Russia .... Do you think this is a liberal?
                The fact that a professional of the highest class is one hundred percent. What critically approaches the assessment of events is one hundred percent. And if his opinion does not coincide with yours, this does not mean that his opinion is not true. Or maybe you're wrong? It never occurred to you?
                Incidentally, ancient is present on this forum for several years longer than you. Ask the forum old-timers ... And you immediately began to throw indiscriminately at the accusations .... not Feng Shui wassat I do not like reading, so add it to the "black list" who is in the way.
      5. Alf
        Alf 12 December 2015 21: 59
        0
        Quote: YARS
        In Europe, peasants pay as much for fuel as everyone else,

        And please bring the earnings of European peasants.
        And in my Samara, fuel before the currency jump also cost $ 1, but salaries were "a little" behind.
        Quote: YARS
        Before talking about PLATON, then let it be at the beginning of European prices for roads and taxes!

        Or maybe first build European roads? And then how to build roads, so the state, kindly, at your own expense, and how to share the profit, so the state 25%, and the Rotenberg, which did not invest in it, 75%.
        1. 8 inches
          8 inches 13 December 2015 00: 07
          +2
          so rejoice! now, thanks to the jump, the fuel costs half a dollar .. and then they wait ..
    2. ksan
      ksan 14 December 2015 14: 12
      -1
      Stroporez (2) DE December 12, 2015 18:22 ↑
      Quote: onix757
      sanctions are targeted.
      Exactly so, the sanctions were directed against a narrow group of people, and our authorities transferred them to the whole people.
      Here everything is intelligibly stated:
      Full mess, nonsense and distortion of facts wink Collective farm director and retailer oligarch discuss the fairness of the "world order" wassat At the end of the 80s, we were already ruled by a "collective farm director", which led to his vision of the WORLD. We all know, and in the 90s, the oligarchs-traders ruled with their own vision of the "world order", to which we also know most. hi And the sanctions were imposed not against Putin and his "friends" but against the entire people and the country as a whole, so that the people or the so-called "elite", dissatisfied "collective farm directors", oligarchs-traders and other "White Ribbons" overthrew the president disliked by the West and put YOUR OWN, EBN-2.0, that's when YOU would have "happiness" hi
    3. Prophetic
      Prophetic 14 December 2015 23: 05
      0
      As usual, my gosdepovsky friend, lying. Under the sanctions, almost the entire Russian economy. Loans are not given to individuals, but to the largest Russian corporations. The largest banks, GAZprom, Rosneft, etc. cannot be transcoded. Aeroflot is afraid to fly to Crimea, because threatened with sanctions. They threaten to impose sanctions on any operator that will establish cellular communications in the Crimea. Don’t pi @ di! Sanctions have long passed from individuals to the whole of Russia and the United States, and not the authorities, are guilty of this.
  • your1970
    your1970 12 December 2015 20: 26
    +3
    but nothing that the global crisis began a little earlier than the sanctions for us ???
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 12 December 2015 22: 38
      +1
      Quote: your1970
      but nothing that the global crisis began a little earlier than the sanctions for us ???

      1) You show a couple of countries in which there is also a crisis.
      2) Please explain what such sanctions were introduced against the Russian Federation, that they led the country into such a deep crisis.
      3) I would like to hear at least 3 points of these sanctions.
      1. your1970
        your1970 12 December 2015 23: 32
        0
        The main reason for the financial and economic instability of the 2014 — 2015 years was the structural crisis of the Russian economy that survived after the financial and economic crisis of the 2008 — 2009 years [4] [5]. The essence of the problem is as follows: when the export boom sets in, the economy changes its structure in the direction of de-industrialization and the decline of agriculture, and when it ends - usually sudden and unexpected - it is impossible to quickly restore the degraded manufacturing industry and the agricultural sector. To overcome this “vicious circle”, serious efforts are required, first of all, in the field of technological development [6].
        Since the middle of the 2012 year, a slowdown in the Russian economy has been observed. According to the Ministry of Economic Development, these phenomena were associated with structural problems [4]. Experts at the Higher School of Economics noted that the slowdown in economic growth in 2012 was due to the fact that the sources of growth in the resource-oriented economy of Russia were exhausted due to the end of rising oil prices, and institutional constraints (increased government over-participation in the economy, delayed reforms and a crisis of confidence in the state) did not allow the emergence of new sources of growth [5]. A number of publications also recognized the reason for the stagnation of the 2012-2013 years of the country's excessive dependence on oil [7] [8].
        According to the head of the Center for Social Policy of the Institute of Economics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Doctor of Sciences Evgeny Gontmakher, the crisis began back in 2013, when “there were no sanctions yet, and oil cost more than one hundred dollars per barrel” [9]. So, GDP growth in 2013 was only 1,3% [10], which was three times lower than the previously planned (3,6%) [
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 13 December 2015 00: 10
          +3
          It is ridiculous, of course, that you have hoarded the statements of the HSE experts who have just crushed the economic power of the Russian Federation inherited from the USSR.
          But the essence is clear how much oil brook does not pour, and the end will be. yes
          But about the sanctions, be so kind as to clarify! about these damn, the notorious sanctions.
          At least 3 points of sanctions and against whom they were adopted.
          1. your1970
            your1970 13 December 2015 12: 24
            0
            to be clear, in the 2008 year, up to 40 of thousands of tons of fertilizers per month passed through us, and for the whole 2009 year, only 2 (TWO!!!!) wagon.
            Sanctions
            Australia:
            • Canceled a number of government visits to Russia.
            • Frozen accounts, and also banned the entry of eight citizens of Russia and four citizens of Ukraine, "who play an important role in the Russian threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."
            Albania joined the sanctions of the European Union against Russia.
            Bulgaria dismantled the South Stream pipes on its territory.
            Great Britain suspended military cooperation with Russia, including halted the supply of military items to Russia and canceled the planned joint military exercises.
            Germany:
            • Suspended the implementation of a military contract with Russia worth 120 million euros.
            • Stopped the export of defense products to Russia.
            • Frozen sale of satellite technology worth up to 700 million euros.
            • Refused to participate in the annual intergovernmental German-Russian consultations in the framework of the Petersburg Dialogue [38].
            • Stopped the export of military products to Russia.
            Iceland joined the European Union sanctions against Russia.
            Canada:
            • Ceased military cooperation with Russia.
            • Sent all Russian troops from its territory.
            • Introduced a ban on entry into the country and froze the assets of seven Russian and three Crimean officials.
            • Introduced sanctions against the joint-stock company Joint-Stock Bank “Russia” and added to its sanctions list another 14 Russian officials.
            • Expelled from her territory the deputy military attache of the Russian Embassy.
            • It imposed sanctions against the chairman of the Sevastopol Election Commission, Valery Medvedev, the chairman of the Crimean Election Commission, Mikhail Malyshev, and the Chernomorneftegaz company.
            • Being the chairman of the Arctic Council, she refused to participate in its working meetings held in Moscow.
            • Refused to launch the M3MSat microsatellite using a Russian rocket from the Baikonur Cosmodrome.
            • Introduced additional economic sanctions against nine Russian officials, as well as Expobank and RosEnergoBank.
          2. your1970
            your1970 13 December 2015 12: 27
            -1
            Ukraine:
            • Stopped broadcasting the Vesti, Russia 24, Channel One television channels. World Wide Web ”,“ RTR Planet ”and“ NTV Mir ”on its territory.
            • Frozen supplies of weapons and military equipment to Russia.
            • Limited the length of stay for Russian citizens with a limit of 90 days.
            • Stopped the injection of Russian gas into its underground storage facilities.
            • Joined the sanctions of the European Union against Russia.
            • Banned more than 100 officials - Russian citizens who supported the annexation of Crimea to Russia, from entering their territory [89].
            • Significantly strengthened border control of arrivals from Russia and the Crimea: restricted entry for male citizens of the Russian Federation from 16 to 60 years old who travel alone, except when traveling to relatives for funerals, according to the certified original invitations of legal entities and individuals persons or with the permission of the State Border Service itself.
            • Restricted entry for Ukrainian citizens with Crimean male registration aged 16 to 60 years who travel alone, except when traveling with relatives with a serious illness, if you have tickets for other planes, travel vouchers or based on information from Ukrainian border guards.
            • Introduced filtration and verification measures for Ukrainian citizens with Crimean registration of females aged 20 to 35 years.
            • The restrictions do not apply to Russians and Crimeans who arrived with families with children.
            • The Constitutional Court of Ukraine has ceased cooperation with the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation.
            • Blocked the flow of water to the Crimean peninsula through the North Crimean Canal.
            France:
            It announced its intention to terminate the contract for the construction of warships for Russia and suspended most of its military cooperation with Russia, including the exchange of visits and the holding of joint exercises.
            Switzerland:
            • Stopped the process of creating a free trade zone with the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
            • Took note of the sanctions imposed by the European Union and the United States, and decided to take all necessary measures to ensure that the Swiss territory is not used to circumvent them. She also confirmed that visa restrictions imposed by the European Union apply to its territory in accordance with the Schengen Agreement.
            • Frozen military cooperation with Russia.
            • Introduced restrictions on the financial operations of 33 officials from Russia, for which the European Union had previously imposed sanctions.
            • Has expanded its sanctions list to another 15 people. Sanctions were imposed on ten citizens of Russia and five representatives of the south-east of Ukraine. Restrictions on financial transactions are introduced against these people, and they are also prohibited from entering Switzerland.
            Sweden ceased military cooperation with Russia.
            Montenegro joined the European Union sanctions against Russia.
            Czech Republic
            Česká pošta has stopped the delivery of letters and parcels intended for residents of the Crimea.
            Estonia has frozen assets and property owned by the mayor of Sevastopol Alexei Chalom, as well as his companies AS Tavrida Electric Export and Tavrida Electric Holding AG.
            Japan:
            • Terminated negotiations on visa liberalization for Russian citizens and suspended negotiations on signing investment agreements, preventing dangerous military activities and cooperation between the astronautics and Russia.
            • Canceled and discontinued the issuance of 23 visas to Russian government officials and others
          3. your1970
            your1970 13 December 2015 12: 30
            +1
            Latvia:

            • Suspended military cooperation with Russia.
            • Stopped broadcasting of the Rossiya TV channel due to “biased coverage of the situation in Ukraine”.

            Moldova joined the EU sanctions against Russia.

            The Netherlands suspended military cooperation with Russia.

            Norway:

            • Suspended participation in negotiations on the creation of a free trade zone between the European Free Trade Association and the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
            • Suspended military cooperation with Russia until the end of May 2014.
            • Joined the sanctions of the European Union against Russia.

            New Zealand suspended negotiations with the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan on the creation of a free trade zone and recalled Trade Minister Tim Groser from Moscow.

            Poland: **

            • Canceled the forum of regions with Russia.
            • Poczta Polska has stopped delivering letters and parcels intended for residents of the Crimea.
          4. your1970
            your1970 13 December 2015 12: 51
            +2
            United States of America (USA):
            On 4 of March 2014, investment and military cooperation with Russia was frozen, and bilateral negotiations and conference planning were canceled.
            On March 17, US President Barack Obama announced that he had signed an executive order that imposed sanctions against a number of Russian officials in the form of freezing their bank accounts, seizing property, and refusing to issue entry visas. Seven people are listed in the decree by name, but the text also mentions the right of the Secretary of the Treasury to supplement the list by agreement with the Secretary of State. The list appears: E.B. Mizulina - Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Family, Women and Children; L.E. Slutsky - Chairman of the State Duma Committee on the Affairs of the Commonwealth of Independent States; A.A. Klishas - Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Constitutional Legislation; IN AND. Matvienko - chairman of the Federation Council; BEFORE. Rogozin - Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation; V.Yu. Surkov - Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation; S.Yu. Glazyev - Advisor to the President. The American corporation Morgan Stanley noted that the West is in no hurry with sanctions against Russia, "because it will significantly worsen the economic situation in Europe."
            On March 20, they expanded the list of Russian senior officials against whom sanctions were imposed, and also imposed sanctions against the Rossiya Bank, called the “personal bank for senior officials of the Russian Federation” and major Russian businessmen , which were considered related business relations with President V.V. Putin (G.N. Timchenko, brothers A.R. and B.R. Rotenberg, Yu.V. Kovalchuk).
            On March 27, they suspended cooperation with Russia in the field of the fight against drugs, and also suspended the issuance of American companies the licenses to export “potentially dangerous products” to Russia.
          5. your1970
            your1970 13 December 2015 12: 51
            0
            On March 28, they stopped licensing the export of defense goods and services to Russia.
            On March 30, the work of the Russian-American presidential commission ceased.
            On April 2, they suspended a number of projects with Russia within the framework of the bilateral presidential commission, as well as some areas of cooperation between law enforcement agencies, and the funding for their implementation was redirected to Ukraine.
            On April 3, they suspended consultations with Russia in the field of missile defense, as well as suspended cooperation in the space sector, with the exception of the International Space Station project and a number of projects in the field of peaceful atom.
            On April 7, they stopped working with Russia as part of the Nunn-Lugar program, and also closed access for Russian citizens to the facilities of the Ministry of Energy, including the Brookhaven National Laboratory and Fermilab.
            On April 11, sanctions were imposed on seven representatives of the Crimean leadership and the Chernomorneftegaz company.
            On April 28, sanctions were imposed on 7 government officials of the Russian Federation and 17 Russian companies. They also banned the sale of high-tech goods to Russia, which could enhance the combat effectiveness of the Russian army and canceled previously issued licenses for their supply.
            The first Russian companies to fall under US sanctions were the Rossiya and Sobinbank banks. Visa and MasterCard plastic cards issued by these banks are no longer serviced worldwide. Subsequently, sanctions were imposed against other companies associated with Vladimir Putin’s inner circle: AquaNika LLC, Avia Group LLC, Avia Group Nord LLC, Zest CJSC, InvestCapitalBank, Sobinbank, Sakhatrans, SMP Bank, Stroygazmontazh ”, Stroytransgaz, LLC Stroytransgaz, OJSC Stroytransgaz, LLC Stroytransgaz-M, Stroytransgaz Holding, IK Abros, Transoil LLC and Volga Group. Their assets are frozen, and 13 companies from this list will need from now on licenses for exporting products from the United States “with the presumption of refusal of export, re-export and other foreign transfers”.

            The list of sanctions had to be broken down into 4 parts — did not intervene ...
          6. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 13 December 2015 18: 10
            +2
            Quote: your1970
            sv1970 (

            You definitely +++++!
            You are the first in the WHO who painted the essence of the sanctions good
            And now you must agree that the sanctions are aimed mainly at some people, we note that they are not the poorest.
            And everyone else, such as not sending mail, does not carry an economic threat to the Russian Federation.
            Those. all sanctions taken together were not, at all, a significant reason for the economic crisis in the Russian Federation in 2014-15.
            Accordingly, the crisis and currency collapse in the Russian Federation, completely man-made precisely by the economic authorities of our country.
            Summary: 1) sanctions - this is an adolescent excuse for plebs.
            2) our main enemies are sitting at our house in "high" chairs hi
          7. your1970
            your1970 13 December 2015 19: 48
            +1
            You rushed to the surnames and did not pay attention to the military-technical and trade aspects of the sanctions, as well as to the suspension of entry into the CU of a number of serious countries
          8. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 13 December 2015 20: 58
            +4
            Latvia:

            • Suspended military cooperation with Russia
            .
            The Netherlands suspended military cooperation with Russia.

            We must carefully sort these sanctions.
            The main thing for Russian business is the difficulty with cheap loans in the West.
            So the FIG of the Central Bank, if he can not provide loans to business.
            If the money allocated to support banks, expressed in a very sickly amount, were thrown by banks on currency speculation?
            You can list a bunch of things that are justified by sanctions, but if you look more closely, then sanctions are just a cover or gouging or outright theft of state money.
            Why does our valiant government speak first of all about "degreasing" the population, while bashfully not mentioning big business? Where is this nationally oriented business elite? Buying hotels in Turkey?
          9. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 13 December 2015 23: 41
            +3
            Quote: Aleksandr1959
            We must carefully sort these sanctions.

            Thank you for your understanding! +100500

            In short, sanctions are another power bugger for the plebs.
            But our government went much further .-
            She secured the overseas assets of oligarchs and just crooks with compensations from the budget!
            And in response to sanctions against those close to the tops, she introduced some sort of left-wing counter-sanctions, thereby inflating prices on the domestic market for everything and everything!
          10. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 14 December 2015 00: 12
            +1
            In short, sanctions are another power bugger for the plebs.
            But our government went much further .-
            She secured the overseas assets of oligarchs and just crooks with compensations from the budget!
            And in response to sanctions against those close to the tops, she introduced some kind of left-wing counter-sanctions, thereby pushing up prices on the domestic market for everything and everything!

            Just what is constantly about ancient writes. And the devils begin to accuse him of what. Starting from liberalism. ending with Bolshevism.
            And your messages suggest that it’s critical, but in my opinion there are more patriotic-minded people. Exactly. truly patriotically minded, not ur-patriots.
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        3. alexej123
          alexej123 14 December 2015 14: 11
          0
          Well done, about a week ago I explained the same thing, in my opinion for AntiKor. Cheap loans, lack of cheap liquidity (money) - this is what hit the hardest. And it’s not clear to me, everyone keeps saying “INVESTMENTS”. So there is a little egg. Why do we wait for investments when we ourselves have money? Where is the logic?
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 December 2015 11: 49
    +7
    Listen up
    why abroad is so everywhere the hand of the State Department.
    It's not about fat, but I would be living. Now the West rushing to Russia to crush, and you want frills ?;
    So he always feathered and what not to live now? Why then broke the Soviet Union?
    if they had not gone to Syria, now the Black Sea Fleet would have been locked in the Black Sea;
    is this nata reported to you?
    If not for the WTO
    say according to WTO rules sanctions are prohibited.
    But with your views, my friend
    My normal views are for a social, popular country. But your Putin has repeatedly spoken out. what kind of liberalism is he.
    1. Sega66
      Sega66 12 December 2015 17: 50
      0
      But he is our Putin, and not yours who is there ??? traitor (read informer) Kasyanov?
      1. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 22: 13
        -1
        I was also blamed for supporting this topic. VO becomes a platform with completely understandable directions. ECHO is quite obvious, but VO is not very obvious.
  • ancient
    ancient 12 December 2015 15: 59
    10
    Quote: Anchonsha
    Now the West rushing to Russia to crush, and you want frills ?; if they had not gone to Syria, now the Black Sea Fleet would have been locked in the Black Sea;


    And what happened 2 years ago, when no one went anywhere and there was 120 oil ???
    There was money in the country .. "fool" ... everything was "sponsored" by la and continue to be inserted into "American" papers "at 3%.
    How many Summer Cottages ... have you customized?
    WTO say .. "happiness"? belay
    Yeah ... no words .. that's for sure .. "crisis" fool
    1. ANTI.KORR.
      ANTI.KORR. 12 December 2015 16: 12
      +8
      Quote: ancient
      . all "sponsored" la and continue to stick in "American" papers "at 3%.

      in August of this year they again bought Amerov papers for 21,5 raccoons belay
      and we have a disharak in our ears ...
      1. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 22: 41
        -2
        For ANTI.KOR and its pluses and minuses. The dependence of the forum participants on the opinions of the environment is very noticeable. I provoked a stellar (marshal) response on the status of VO. I made a conclusion for myself.
        Nothing personal in money and diagnosis.
    2. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 22: 25
      -2
      Ancient, you are very ancient. Conclusions and decisions are made taking into account not only the available information, but also the understanding of the available information.
      You do not have all the information, and, apparently, there is no intellectual ability to understand what is available. This is no offense to you personally, but you got it.
  • atalef
    atalef 12 December 2015 16: 06
    -6
    Quote: Anchonsha
    It's not about fat, but I would be living. Now the West is rushing to Russia,

    There is a good joke on this subject.
    Ivan the prince rides to the river, gives a horse a drink, and suddenly he sees a Serpent-mountaineer standing nearby and reading a gzhetka.
    Well, Ivan is the prince with a cry, oh you monster, the filthy rushes at him and cuts off his head - and in her place they grow 2.
    He again chopped - and there 4, so the whole day was chopped - chopped, the snake already has 100 goals.
    Suddenly the serpent bounces off to the side and asks --- wait, wait Ivan Tsarevich, why were you coming here?
    Well, Ivan him - give horse a drink
    Z. G - and what am I to you? Disturbed?

    Think about it.
    Lived quietly - oil 120 bucks a barrel, tourists, the economy up, the dough of the sea, investment.
    Who bothered that?
    Why the heck did you have to start chopping?
    1. onix757
      onix757 12 December 2015 16: 12
      +4
      Why the heck did you have to start chopping?
      It was necessary to start chopping, because Russia is vulnerable within these borders. Another thing is that the preparatory measures were not carried out before the cutting, and when the authorities realized it, they threw all the beautiful plans halfway.
    2. andj61
      andj61 12 December 2015 17: 07
      +8
      Quote: atalef
      Think about it.
      Lived quietly - oil 120 bucks a barrel, tourists, the economy up, the dough of the sea, investment.
      Who bothered that?
      Why the heck did you have to start chopping?

      hi And what, oil has fallen in price due to the fact that they started to cut? repeat
      Or because of the desire of the Saudis to ruin the shale oil production in the bud, and at the same time competitors, whose extraction of ordinary, non-shale oil is significantly more expensive than their own? yes And what does the "chopper" have to do with this? what Sanctions are 20% of our total situation, or even less. The rest is a drop in oil prices, plus the desire of the government to keep afloat the existing banking and oligarchic structures. bully drinks
      1. atalef
        atalef 12 December 2015 20: 06
        -4
        Quote: andj61
        And what, oil has fallen in price due to the fact that they started to cut?

        Hi Andrew.
        No - cheaper oil was an inevitable process. due to the exhaustion of the potential for economic recovery in China (first of all) - and of the shale revolution in the USA - in the second
        Quote: andj61
        Or because of the desire of the Saudis to ruin the shale oil production in the bud, and at the same time competitors, whose extraction of ordinary, non-shale oil is significantly more expensive than their own?

        Saudi alone could not do this - it is a complex of factors that was generally predictable
        Quote: andj61
        And what does the "chopper" have to do with this?

        Were it not for Crimea and LDNR, Russia would have felt it much less.
        As a fact, neither Norway nor Saudi nor the Emirates entered such a crisis
        Quote: andj61
        Sanctions - this is a percentage of 20% of our overall situation, or even less

        205- I doubt, I think more, although 20% is not a little + how much the DNI, LNR (Crimea I do not take into account), and Syria, of course

        Quote: andj61
        . The rest is a drop in oil prices, plus the desire of the government to keep afloat the existing banking and oligarchic structures

        Well this is the part that would be anyway.
        I'm talking about * supplements * now
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 12 December 2015 20: 36
          +5
          Quote: atalef
          As a fact, neither Norway nor Saudi nor the Emirates entered such a crisis

          Alexander!
          hi
          Norway was not included in this crisis. This is true. Their jug ​​has been filling since the late 70s. But today Norway is forced to reopen this "Future Generations Fund", because social expenses included in the Norwegian budget (both today and tomorrow) cannot be reduced by definition... Not a single ruling party dares to tell the citizens of Norway that it is like "Let's tighten our belts!" Norway is used to living with little regard for the fall in oil prices. I do not even mention the Norwegian order of 52 (!) F-35s in the amount of about 9 billion Baku with a tail. And today the Norwegians intend to pay 10 tons of Baku to each "refugee" in the form of compensation, with the condition of not having the right to return to Norway.
          I don’t know about the Saudis and the Emirates, but if the silent Norwegians began loudly indignant “Why did oil prices fall by half or three times, and the prices at gas stations are the same?”, Then something is wrong in the Norwegian kingdom.
          And when I recalculated the Norwegian prices in Russia for the new Kia Rio and Lada Vesta, there was no limit to the indignation of the latter ... laughing
          1. Alexei
            Alexei 12 December 2015 21: 09
            +5
            What is Norway? We in St. Petersburg have more people than in all of Norway. In addition, Norway has never fought much in its history, like the long-suffering Russia, which constantly has to restore everything from scratch. And the most annoying thing is that we will never be allowed to establish normal life in the country. Therefore, I believe that it is not correct to compare the state of affairs in Russia with the situation in small countries that did not have to independently overcome such difficulties as our country.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 12 December 2015 22: 30
              +3
              Quote: Alexej
              Therefore, I believe that it is not correct to compare the state of affairs in Russia with the situation in small countries that did not have to independently overcome such difficulties as our country

              Systemic mistake - we are a great country, there is nothing to equal us with small ones.
              The Norwegians have a lot to learn - from labor productivity to the pace of transformation of the poorest country in the mid-60s to the richest at the beginning of the XNUMXst century.
            2. Alexei
              Alexei 13 December 2015 06: 13
              +2
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Systemic mistake - we are a great country, there is nothing to equal us with small ones.

              I did not write that we are a great country, I wrote that the external tasks of countries (to put it mildly) are different. If, for example, you live in an elite area and calmly make money without problems, and I live in a shitty area and have to fight for the right to get home after work, I have to invest in training to increase my physical abilities (spending money and time on this) . Of course, I have a lot to learn from you ... winked
            3. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 13 December 2015 13: 54
              +2
              Quote: Alexej
              Of course, I have a lot to learn from you ...

              Of course...
              Not the subject of conversation - who lives where and how - we are all blacksmiths of our own happiness.
              Citizens of Russia.
          2. alexej123
            alexej123 13 December 2015 12: 46
            0
            I completely agree with you, now I disagree a little - please name the products of Norway, except for fish and tourism, and of course hydrocarbons, which are known beyond its borders? I didn't specifically look for it, but I don't think there is one. Those. Norway, for reasons of a relatively small population, and you said, without having those historical difficulties (I think even catastrophes) that Russia had, calmly collected the "egg-box" and regaled on its laurels.
          3. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 13 December 2015 13: 52
            +3
            Quote: alexej123
            Those. Norway, for reasons of a relatively small population, and you said, without having those historical difficulties (I think even catastrophes) that Russia had, calmly collected the "egg-box" and regaled on its laurels.

            I'm about what you can learn from the Norwegians
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            from labor productivity to the pace of transformation of the poorest country in the mid-60s to the richest at the beginning of the XNUMXst century.

            Even Peter the Great did not hesitate to "master Western technologies" along with management, having made a long voyage to Holland and England.
            M, if Norway sat behind NATO and the USA, accumulating its welfare fund, then they didn’t get any worse.
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        3. asiat_61
          asiat_61 14 December 2015 00: 03
          0
          Another Prokhorov, labor productivity.
        4. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 14 December 2015 08: 13
          +3
          Quote: asiat_61
          . labor productivity.

          What do you think?
          If in government agencies and institutions 10 people do one person’s work, and they get paid for it, then what kind of balanced budget can we talk about?
          Go through the enterprises and offices of your city - on Monday before lunch, no one else works, on Friday after lunch - there is ALREADY no one to find.
          On a national scale, this amounts to monstrous losses in material and monetary terms.
  • asiat_61
    asiat_61 14 December 2015 00: 00
    +2
    There wouldn’t have been Crimea, your mandalas have come up with something anyway. Russia doesn’t need any mandalas, from the word, that there wouldn’t be any. And here all the means are good, including iPhone and comrades.
  • Sega66
    Sega66 12 December 2015 17: 57
    -3
    And we would live in peace if you had not climbed.
  • alexej123
    alexej123 12 December 2015 19: 01
    +3
    And the question is - WHO STARTED ??? Russia, Putin, Shoigu - WHO ??? A simple introduction - the Arab world began action - both military and political, on the return of Jerusalem. So what? How would Israel behave?
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  • Alf
    Alf 12 December 2015 21: 48
    +1
    [quote = Anchonsha] Listen, and where in the economic crisis in countries do they increase their investments in medicine, science, culture? It's not about fat, but I would be living. [/ Quote]
    They say, "crisis, crisis", but no one asks the question, where and why did this crisis begin?
    [quote = Anchonsha] If it weren’t for the WTO, but we entered there on good conditions, [/ quote]
    Can you find out these "good conditions"?
    [quote = Anchonsha] If it were not for the WTO, then where would we sell our steel, copper. carbide metals? [/ quote]
    And before joining the WTO, where did Russia sell all of the above?
    Mr. Mordashov, Russia's main pusher in the WTO, said that accession did not bring the expected benefits.
    [quote] WTO accession will bring benefits not to buyers but to sellers
    After Russia joins the WTO, entire groups of goods may become cheaper. Some experts, however, argue that the result of a reduction in duties may not be a fall in prices for buyers, but an increase in sellers' profits.
    Formally, prices should fall on those goods that are currently subject to high duties, and membership in the WTO will require lowering them. According to a document published on the website of the Ministry of Economic Development, the weighted average level of import duties on agricultural products will decrease after Russia joins the WTO from 15% to 11%, and for manufactured goods - from 11% to 6%. [/ Quote]
    Great ! Our agricultural producers generally come off the ground, no one will reduce taxes and prices for spare parts, energy and fees.
    [/ quote] The rates of duties on foreign medicines will decrease most significantly - from 5-15% to 5-6,5% during the transition period, at the same time, duties on medical equipment and pharmaceutical substances will decrease at a faster pace (up to 2-3%). [/ quote]
    Are highly foreign drugs cheaper?
    [/ quote] “If the duty on the import of foreign drugs into the Russian Federation decreases, then the price of drugs will fall. Unless, of course, intermediaries do not raise prices, ”says Guzel Ulumbekova, executive director of the Association of Medical Societies for Quality (ASMOK). [/ Quote] [/ quote] Within three years after Russia's accession to the WTO, duties on computers and funds will also be canceled their production and elemental base. Fees for household electrical appliances and electronics, having decreased from 15%, will remain at the level of 7–9% (according to the document of the Ministry of Economic Development). [/ Quote]
    Electronics prices dropped dramatically? Our production is not there.
    I can continue, but too lazy to quote.
    The main idea of ​​my post in the WTO entered, but did not notice the price reduction.
    Production and the peasants generally lay down.
    The fact that over the past two years industry and peasants have risen is not from the entry into the WTO, but from the imposition of sanctions.
  • goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx 14 December 2015 16: 04
    +1
    wherever we sell our steel, copper. carbide metals? - and thoughts are not squeezed into the brain that machines could build a machine tool out of them - on the defensive they are also not superfluous - like oil they weren’t cheap raw materials — they would take current- and the actual cost of the final product from it- or the brains are already washed by the raw material philosophy ?
  • atalef
    atalef 12 December 2015 11: 39
    +4
    Quote: Gardamir
    probably the State Department raised the age for retirement,

    Quote: Gardamir
    or is the State Department passed the Rottenberg tax

    Quote: Gardamir
    or the State Department made Russia drive coal to Ukraine two days ago?

    I don’t know about this, but here obviously the State Department tried
    The vice-governor of St. Petersburg Sergey Movchan appealed to the Federal Customs Service with a request to unblock the import of spare parts from Turkey. The official explained that after the decree of President Vladimir Putin on economic sanctions against Turkey, auto companies and suppliers were faced with a significant deadline for processing goods imported from Turkey.

    Quote: Gardamir
    But I know for sure that after Putin’s conversation with Obama at the UN, Russia climbed into Syria.

    I never thought about it that way
    Quote: Gardamir
    A very good excuse everywhere to look for enemies, or maybe the fifth column in the Kremlin?

    request
  • sherp2015
    sherp2015 12 December 2015 13: 44
    +6
    Quote: Gardamir
    good excuse everywhere to look for enemies, and maybe the fifth column in the Kremlin?



    Don't even go to your grandmother ... Otherwise, how would you be able to destroy such a page?
    1. your1970
      your1970 12 December 2015 20: 33
      +4
      Everything has long been described (and even the government with the Kremlin has nothing to do with it, to spite all liberals repeat )

      What is this your devastation? An old woman with a stick? The witch who knocked out all the glasses, put out all the lamps? Yes, it does not exist at all. What do you mean by this word? (...) This is what: if, instead of operating every evening, I start singing in my apartment in a chorus, I will fall into ruin. If I enter the restroom, I’ll start, sorry for the expression, urinating past the toilet and Zina and Daria Petrovna will do the same, the restroom will begin to collapse. Therefore, the devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads. So when these baritones shout “beat the devastation!” " - I am laughing. (...). I swear I'm funny! This means that each of them must hit his neck! And so, when he hatches out all sorts of hallucinations and engages in cleaning his sheds - his direct business - the devastation will disappear by itself. Two gods cannot be served!
      Mikhail Afanasevich Bulgakov. dog's heart
  • alexej123
    alexej123 12 December 2015 14: 20
    +1
    For what last? Over the 90s? If you are comparing, give the periods. I don’t know how old you are - I lived in the 90s, I don’t want to do that anymore, the "best finance ministers in the world" were in power - they burn in hell. I, an officer, received about 40 dollars in your favorite currency, every 4-5 months, I studied, my family. I understand why you don't like Putin, in your fat years you extolled him, now you are more worried about your bank accounts, the ability to take your ass out to warm countries. "Destruction of culture, education" - for comparison, take the state of these institutions in the 90s and now, their financing. Ehksperts mln. Yes, these are not easy times, do not be like those who escape from the ship feeling a leak.
    1. sovetskyturist
      sovetskyturist 12 December 2015 15: 19
      +3
      each has its own measure of understanding
      Task: One patient in a psychiatric hospital did not have time to get a sedative, how many orderlies he will have time to bite if he moves at a speed of 20 km per hour and if he has time to run to the head physician, whose office is at a distance of 1 km.

      Task: In a psychiatric hospital there is hl. a doctor and a lot of crazy people. For a week, every crazy person bites someone once a day. At the end of the week, it turned out that each of the patients had two bites, and Ch. a hundred doctors. How many crazy people are in the hospital?

      Objective: Aliens who visited school N are very different from the inhabitants of the Earth. Each of them has 4 hands, 4 legs and 2 conscience. How much less is Stepan Stulchikov, a student of this school, listed if he knows that he has the same number of hands and feet as an ordinary person, but no conscience at all?

      Task: Primazische found 96 shkledulok in the field. And Priazyazenok found 64 shkledulki. How many more Shkledulok found Priazmyshche than Priazyazenok?

      Task: Dad, mom and older sisters are having dinner, and the younger brother Vassenka is sitting under the table and sawing a table leg at a speed of 3 cm per minute. How many minutes will the dinner end if the thickness of the table leg is 9 cm?

      Task: At exactly two in the morning a bucket of water will be splashed out from the balcony of the twelfth floor. Water will reach the earth in 9 seconds. How many minutes is there left for the cat Tarzan to be dry if, sitting on the very spot where the water will fly, he began to sing his favorite song at midnight and has been singing for 1 hour 57 minutes and 9 seconds?

      Task: Let's say that you decided to jump into the water from a height of 8 meters and, after flying 5 meters, changed your mind. How many meters will you still have to fly involuntarily?

      Task: One corner was sawn off the table. How many angles does he have now? And how many corners will there be if you cut two, three, four corners?

      Task: One grandfather hunted cockroaches in the kitchen and killed five, and wounded three times more. Grandfather wounded three cockroaches deadly, and they died from wounds, and the rest of the wounded cockroaches recovered, but were offended by their grandfather and left forever for their neighbors. How many cockroaches went to the neighbors?
    2. atalef
      atalef 12 December 2015 16: 14
      -1
      Quote: alexej123
      I don’t know how old you are - I lived in the 90s, I don’t want to do that anymore, the "best finance ministers in the world" were in power - they burn in hell

      Unfortunately, everything goes to the point that of course not the 90s. but --- it will be very difficult.
      35 bucks a barrel and below - this means a stab fund and, in general, all reserves will run out by May-June
      Quote: alexej123
      I, an officer, received about 40 dollars in your favorite currency, every 4-5 months, I studied, my family.

      What is the difference, the salary can be considered in any equivalent, and even in tons of manure.

      Quote: alexej123
      of these institutions in the 90s and now,

      Take 1917 right away - then everything is all in full chocolate.
      1. alexej123
        alexej123 12 December 2015 18: 48
        +5
        If you want to receive tons of manure, that's your right. Why did you say that? Do you work for free in Israel? I wrote for a salary - an example of how NOT TO LIVE. You pull out specially statements from the general meaning and try to teach in a mentoring tone - why did you leave for Israel, but did not stay? And why don't liberals like it when they cite the 90s as an example? Are you one of them? If not, there is nothing to teach me - commented - I just do not understand why? Or on the principle of "light up", what did you want to say? And I realized that Russia in the 90s was just a "darling" - now "Mordor". Come on by.
    3. ac5pr7u
      ac5pr7u 12 December 2015 21: 48
      0
      I once in 90 I exalted, I began to be critical of him after his words about Kursk she drowned.
    4. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 22: 54
      -1
      Alexei, donkeys will not understand that they are donkeys, just because they are donkeys.
  • Russiamoy
    Russiamoy 12 December 2015 17: 32
    0
    almost everything is true. To be honest, we still do not have juvenile justice and the retirement age has not yet been raised. no bends.
  • Yars
    Yars 12 December 2015 20: 02
    -1
    Quote: Gardamir
    on Putin’s actions
    probably the State Department raised the age for retirement, or did the State Department accept the Rottenberg tax or did the State Department make Russia drive coal to Ukraine two days ago? But I know for sure that after Putin’s conversation with Obama at the UN, Russia climbed into Syria. In recent years, there has been a massive destruction of education. medicine, Russian culture. Here are the achievements of the State Department. entry into the WTO, Juvenile Justice, baby boxes, Yeltsin's mausoleum. A very good excuse everywhere to look for enemies, or maybe the fifth column in the Kremlin?

    oh well Gardamir, aren't you tired of writing the same WRONG ?! Maybe change the record, but no, I forgot, your owner changes the record overseas. Did the article hit you hard? True eyes hurt, right ?!
    1. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 23: 02
      -1
      YaRS, you are not alone in VO in connection with the clowning. There is strength and desire - the ivy of grand-eaters.
  • volodimer
    volodimer 13 December 2015 13: 49
    +4
    Yes, you are right, education, medicine, culture, WTO, Yeltsin. But for me, beeps, redheads, Khodorkovsky are more evil than Putin. Fell Putin because of the rotten environment, to the delight of am and our liberals? In these conditions, this is a scenario of a ruin with Yanukovych. Then all the vultures flock to finish off Russia. It is necessary to change the situation within the country, but not to the detriment.
  • Patton5
    Patton5 14 December 2015 09: 05
    +1
    According last years there is a massive destruction of education. medicine, Russian culture.
    Yes, yes, precisely in recent years !!!! How happy we lived until this tyrant came !!!! Golden 90s Russia at the peak of power, the medicine of which was envied by both Israel and Germany. And education ... winked and culture winked yeah ....... 90s Russia we lost ...
  • kalibr
    kalibr 14 December 2015 12: 14
    +1
    Yes, Leonid, you are right. To blame everything on enemies "from there" is a very unreasonable simplification. So all the great writers and poets of Russia of the past can be recorded in ... "agents". Here I have a fresh issue of the newspaper Pro Gorod (Penza). We read the editorial. Penza officials collected bribes worth 80 million rubles. (Did the State Department make them?) More specifically: for 9 months of 2015: criminal cases - 27 bribery, 17 bribe-giving, 18 official forgery, 13 - fraud using official position, 7 embezzlement, 23 - commercial bribery, 15 abuse of power ... And here's another question: were all these subjects born and raised after 1991? Is everyone corrupted solely by today's capitalism?
  • oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 14 December 2015 16: 49
    0
    Having dressed in a monastic cassock, a prostitute will not finish trading her body.
    -
    "Our" liberals are not opposition, they are a festering growth. Which, to (their) great regret, is removed only by surgery. And it's a pity that our president is a tolerant person.
  • FiremamRescueS
    FiremamRescueS 12 December 2015 10: 23
    37
    Spit on the cons. I can’t say that GDP is sweet, but there is no real alternative in the country. Therefore, I am for Putin.
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 12 December 2015 10: 45
      +7
      Quote: FiremamRescueS
      Spit on the cons. I can’t say that GDP is sweet, but there is no real alternative in the country. Therefore, I am for Putin.

      And can you tell me, where did the talents come from in Russia? Why was there only one talent left on Olympus? Who is happy with this state of affairs?
      1. atalef
        atalef 12 December 2015 11: 41
        +5
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        And can you tell me, where did the talents come from in Russia? Why was there only one talent left on Olympus? ?

        Well, not one, but two.

        Quote: There was a mammoth
        Who is happy with this state of affairs?

        Both of them.
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 12 December 2015 11: 49
          +7
          Quote: atalef
          Well, not one, but two.

          I can not object. You're right. Justification is only one, not the only one I am.
          Quote: atalef
          Both of them.

          And here you are right. wink
        2. alexej123
          alexej123 12 December 2015 18: 54
          -4
          Bravo, "subtle observation". Give an answer to the question "Who is to blame" - give an answer to the question "What to do". And so - one blah blah blah blah blah blah.
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 12 December 2015 22: 08
            +4
            Quote: alexej123
            "What to do... ."

            I have already suggested one and even in these comments. I repeat:
            “Decide on your own opinion. Not on the basis of what someone said, but on the basis of your own analysis. The presidential elections are still far away, and the elections to the State Duma are less than a year away. Go to the elections at least and fulfill your duty as a citizen.
            To do this, go to the websites of the State Duma and political parties. See which laws have been adopted and which have not been adopted and for what reason during the "reporting period". Who voted how and who proposed what laws.
            It is clear that this is an unusual work for the majority of the site. I think that your own fate, the fate of loved ones, the fate of the Motherland is worth it. "
            Are you ready to "donate" your time?
            1. alexej123
              alexej123 13 December 2015 00: 05
              0
              Which party do you mean? Those that are now in the Duma? I read your comment. Firstly, to vote against something does not mean to be for the people, perhaps this is done to be "in trend". We disassemble by personalities - the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - 1996. presidential elections - millions of people really were for Zyuganov, there were questions about the election process, he was just scared for himself. Secondly, I saw on the body how he came to one of the rallies in an expensive foreign car of a representative class, I don’t know he rented it or his own. And he himself shouts at all corners for "people's happiness", so sell it, share it with the poor, buy it easier or rent it cheaper. "SR" - after Ponomarev, who was in their party, and whom they did not even condemn - that's it. "ER" - I know from the area where I live, who goes there. For the sake of establishing a circle of acquaintances, for the opportunity to complicate the work of law enforcement agencies against their unseemly actions, in a word, careerists, for whom the needs of the people are an empty phrase. "Liberal Democratic Party" - the usual clowning for the public. EVERYTHING. Who are you specifically suggesting?
              1. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 13 December 2015 00: 34
                +1
                Quote: alexej123
                . Who are you specifically suggesting?

                There is truth in your words.
                I also see "misunderstandings" with Zyuganov. For me, this is a brake on the Communist Party. But, it was not in vain that I asked those wishing to understand, to climb the website of the State Duma. The deputies from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation really offer an alternative and really vote against the anti-people laws. Let it be timid, but offer. Others? On important issues, the LDPR in its entirety does not vote at all, which means support for United Russia. CP-there are decent people, but again, look how they voted. EP- that it’s not their bill, they simply don’t vote at all. No quorum, fuck off.
                I will most likely vote for the candidate from the Communist Party. "From a black sheep, even a tuft of wool." Otherwise, what is the solution? 1917th in 2017?
                1. alexej123
                  alexej123 14 December 2015 11: 35
                  0
                  I don’t know your name, so I am contacting Nick. Mammoth, ordinary deputies will not do the weather. They will do that and vote as they are told. Most of all I am impressed by Starikov, Glazyev - people calmly, day after day, step by step, in a calm, intelligent form explain their positions and arguments. I also like the journalist Konstantin Semin, only in the program for rock music I do not agree with him. Now, if these people are elected - with two hands for.
      2. Anchonsha
        Anchonsha 12 December 2015 11: 45
        15
        Hee hee, please go to the presidency, but only if you have brains for this. Aw, there are none, and what people do not trust. And Putin is just that alone now, for he risked himself, risked annexing Crimea, risked opposing the Russian mind and creativity to the West, risked introducing the Russian Air Force into Syria, to at least slightly push terror from the borders, to stir up the whole world and show what kind of infection this world would is the policy of the United States, to create at least some kind of coalition to begin with and gradually conquer the frightened peoples of the world with US aggression
        1. Alf
          Alf 12 December 2015 23: 46
          -1
          Quote: Anchonsha
          Hee hee, please go to the presidency, but only if you have brains for this. Aw, there are none, and what people do not trust. And Putin is just that alone now, for he risked himself, risked annexing Crimea, risked opposing the Russian mind and creativity to the West, risked introducing the Russian Air Force into Syria, to at least slightly push terror from the borders, to stir up the whole world and show what kind of infection this world would is the policy of the United States, to create at least some kind of coalition to begin with and gradually conquer the frightened peoples of the world with US aggression

          This is all wonderful, but maybe before climbing the fence, maybe it's worth putting things in order inside the yard?
          A living example outside the window was to impose sanctions and bring down the price of oil, and so the country went downhill. And the second member of the tandem, as a drunk wrecker at one time, repeats - From the new year, rise, rise. What a lift-oil is already $ 38.
      3. anfil
        anfil 12 December 2015 11: 49
        11
        And can you tell me, where did the talents come from in Russia?


        Have you heard a lot about Putin before he became President !?
      4. Sega66
        Sega66 12 December 2015 18: 04
        0
        There are a lot of talented people in Russia, only they do not like to "stick out". But mediocrities posing as talents are in sight - a dime a dozen, just in Vicki ...
    2. berkut9737
      berkut9737 12 December 2015 11: 27
      +7
      Spit on the cons. I can’t say that GDP is sweet, but there is no real alternative in the country. Therefore, I am for Putin.

      Why is there no real alternative? Fully honest and decent people in Russia, simply, they are behind the scenes of newspapers and television screens. You need to trust yourself, your eyes and feelings. Do not be lazy to think for yourself, otherwise, think and live will be for you.
      1. your1970
        your1970 12 December 2015 20: 44
        +3
        Honest and decent do not go into politics ...

        Evidently it was already impossible to evade further, and, feeling deeply humiliated, I sat down for the "answer" to all this heap of undeserved dirty slander. But I still could not finish my work, because the next morning a terrible and vicious slander appeared in a newspaper: I was accused of setting fire to a crazy house with all its inhabitants, because it spoiled the view from my windows. Then horror seized me. Then followed a message that I poisoned my uncle in order to take possession of his property. The newspaper persistently demanded an autopsy. I was afraid that I was about to lose my mind. But this is not enough: I was accused of being the trustee of a shelter for foundlings, I attached, with the patronage of my mindless toothless relatives, to the post of chewing food for pets. My head went round. Finally, the shameless bullying that the hostile parties subjected me to the highest point: according to someone’s instigation during the election meeting, nine babies of all skin colors and in a variety of rags climbed onto the podium and. clinging to my legs, began to shout: "Dad!"
        I could not stand it. I lowered the flag and surrendered. I could not run for the position of governor of New York. I wrote that I am withdrawing my candidacy, and in a fit of bitterness I signed:
        “With perfect respect, your once honest man, and now:
        Vile Oathreader, Montana Thief, Tomb Defiler, Blue Devils, Dirty Dodger and Sneaky Blackmailer
        Mark Twain".
    3. dauria
      dauria 12 December 2015 13: 09
      +6
      I can’t say that GDP is sweet, but there is no real alternative in the country


      "No" and "I don't see" are different things .... smile

      Although I don’t see either request ... They hide this one well as its "alternative". An amazing thing, there are strong-willed people in the country (take the disabled Olympians), there are smart people (even laureates), brave to the point of recklessness, too (they are singing with an elastic band from bridges), there are kind people (otherwise the beggars would not stand in the crossing). smile
      But in the presidency - there is no alternative.
      I propose to pull matches to all comers - not to come up with honest elections wassat
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 12 December 2015 14: 55
        +1
        Quote: dauria
        I can’t say that GDP is sweet, but there is no real alternative in the country

        I propose to pull matches to all comers - not to come up with honest elections wassat


        Smiled :) Imagine how all kinds of magicians will rise, who at the right time who needs to be able to match the right match ?;)
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 12 December 2015 18: 17
        +4
        Quote: dauria
        But in the presidency - there is no alternative.
        I propose to pull matches to all comers - not to come up with honest elections

        I applaud you, Bocha! good drinks 100500
    4. tomket
      tomket 12 December 2015 13: 34
      +6
      Quote: FiremamRescueS
      I can’t say that GDP is sweet, but there is no real alternative in the country. Therefore, I am for Putin.

      "There are no irreplaceable people" - I.V. Stalin.
      1. berkut9737
        berkut9737 12 December 2015 14: 33
        +3
        "There are no irreplaceable people" - I.V. Stalin.

        Plus set drinks
      2. woron333444
        woron333444 12 December 2015 15: 24
        +3
        It’s only possible to replace them with no one
      3. atalef
        atalef 12 December 2015 16: 16
        0
        Quote: tomket
        "There are no irreplaceable people" - I.V. Stalin.

        Except me (Stalin thought and smiled)
        1. berkut9737
          berkut9737 12 December 2015 17: 11
          0
          Except me (Stalin thought and smiled)

          Most likely, he turned over.
      4. your1970
        your1970 12 December 2015 21: 41
        +1
        literally in 1953 it turned out that I.V.S. was wrong about the irreplaceability ....
  • Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 12 December 2015 10: 26
    41
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin. More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But the situation is completely different now: they are ruthlessly minus if they see that you support your president.


    Alexander, and where to include people like me. I have a normal attitude towards the president and being a patriot, I am pleased that the country is getting rid of the Yeltsin’s legacy. But at the same time, I have a very negative attitude to the executive branch in socio-economic terms. And there are probably not a few people like me, colleague. hi
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 12 December 2015 10: 32
      13
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      But at the same time, I have a very negative attitude to the executive branch in socio-economic terms. And there are probably not a few people like me, colleague.

      Vladimir, I also "have a negative attitude towards the executive branch in socio-economic terms," ​​but I support the president, because I see how he is fighting almost alone both with the executive branch and with external challenges. hi
      1. severniy
        severniy 12 December 2015 10: 43
        10
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        But at the same time, I have a very negative attitude to the executive branch in socio-economic terms. And there are probably not a few people like me, colleague.

        Vladimir, I also "have a negative attitude towards the executive branch in socio-economic terms," ​​but I support the president, because I see how he is fighting almost alone both with the executive branch and with external challenges. hi

        It would be better if he fought not with the executive branch as a whole, but personally with the Chubais, Nabiulins, Serdyukovs, and weavers ... (Damn the ink in a typewriter will run out), it would have been much more confusing. With my 100% support for the GDP rate, the personnel system is rotten through and through, so I'm in the Vladimir 1964 team. And if there is something for the Leader to put a minus, I will put it. Something like this...
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 12 December 2015 11: 47
          +6
          Quote: severniy
          And if there is something for the Leader to put a minus, I will put it. Something like this...

          To the leader (that is, the president), cons should not be put here, but in the ballot in his election!
          1. severniy
            severniy 12 December 2015 11: 56
            +2
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: severniy
            And if there is something for the Leader to put a minus, I will put it. Something like this...

            To the leader (that is, the president), cons should not be put here, but in the ballot in his election!

            Give me an alternative, I’ll think, but for now, read the comments, it says that I support the main line of the president, why should I neglect the elections?
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 12 December 2015 12: 16
              +4
              Quote: severniy
              but for now read the comments, it says that I support the president’s main line,

              And you read my comments - I also support Vladimir64, but I do not blame the president for the fact that someone's "cat died".
          2. Luga
            Luga 12 December 2015 12: 44
            -1
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            To the leader (that is, the president), cons should not be put here, but in the ballot in his election!


            In the newsletter you need to put not the minuses, but the sum of the minuses and pluses. In my opinion, V.V. Putin is the most positive so far.
        2. your1970
          your1970 12 December 2015 21: 44
          0
          "( Pancake ink belay в typewriter belay will end) "-
          all shout: Unified State Examination, Unified State Examination, here a man graduated from a Soviet school and forgot ....
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 12 December 2015 10: 48
        +4
        but I support the president because I see how he beats almost alone with the executive branch and with external challenges
        So tell me, why should I protect the president from his defenders? A man in his life rose to the presidency. But according to your words, he didn’t learn anything. He didn’t organize his own team, according to your words, all his actions go into the sand because the evil government set up by the State Department must bury all the president’s good undertakings. You say nonsense. I am more impressed with the opinion above, the person does not see an alternative to Putin and will vote for. And I will vote against Putin. Because in my opinion, there should be a man at the head of our country. who are close to the interests of the people!
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 12 December 2015 10: 55
          12
          Quote: Gardamir
          . Because in my opinion, there should be a man at the head of our country. who are close to the interests of the people!

          Leonid, where do you get it? In my opinion, this desire goes back centuries in Russia.
        2. crazy_fencer
          crazy_fencer 12 December 2015 11: 15
          +6
          And what is this visible? Really Khodorkovsky, or Bulk?
          1. atalef
            atalef 12 December 2015 16: 19
            +1
            Quote: crazy_fencer
            And what is this visible? Really Khodorkovsky, or Bulk?

            In any state there should be a normal opposition, then competition develops and there is an opportunity for the appearance of at least new leaders.
            When the opposition is completely crushed - then we get the only alternative to Putin - Medvedev.
            By the way, no one thought why Shoigu does not have ambitions to become prime minister or presidents, or is there Lavrov?
            1. Sega66
              Sega66 12 December 2015 18: 16
              +1
              We have a corrupt opposition and there is an abnormal one.
              1. ancient
                ancient 12 December 2015 21: 01
                -2
                Quote: Sega66
                We have a corrupt opposition and there is an abnormal one.


                Does it mean .. "who is not with you, he .. is against you .."? wassat

                And how do you then differ from dill with their "slogan" about "that .. that doesn't jump"? wassat
            2. your1970
              your1970 12 December 2015 22: 08
              +2
              where лидеры in Europe ???? show at least one..And the opposition in bulk ..
              Yes, there were at one time - De Gaulle, Franco, M. Thatcher, W. Churchill and all - no one else comes to mind without thinking. Each of them has done something great for his country ..
              And now? Like there is normal opposition, competition ...
              Yes, Le Pen seems to be in France, let's see what comes of it ..
              Other countries?
            3. Yuliya2209
              Yuliya2209 14 December 2015 07: 19
              0
              [quote = atalef] [quote = crazy_fencer] And what, is this visible? Really Khodorkovsky, or Navalny? [/ Quote]
              In any state there should be a normal opposition, then competition develops and there is an opportunity for the appearance of at least new leaders.

              Correctly normal, and not the one that runs to the State.Dep to seek sanctions for Russia .....
          2. muhomor
            muhomor 12 December 2015 16: 48
            0
            Why not Zyuganov?
            1. Sega66
              Sega66 12 December 2015 18: 18
              -1
              They, the Communists, were 70 years old and so what?
              1. ancient
                ancient 12 December 2015 21: 03
                +1
                Quote: Sega66
                They, the Communists, were 70 years old and so what?


                And "you" had 15 years and oil under 120 and WH? wassat
            2. Alf
              Alf 12 December 2015 23: 48
              +2
              Quote: muhomor
              Why not Zyuganov?

              Now Zyuganov is not needed, but an IVS.
        3. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 12 December 2015 11: 30
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          And I will vote against Putin. Because in my opinion, there should be a man at the head of our country. who are close to the interests of the people!

          so suggest - maybe I will support "your" candidate,
          but only criticism and criticism - where is the proposal ?? request
          1. onix757
            onix757 12 December 2015 12: 02
            0
            so suggest - maybe I will support "your" candidate,

            But now this does not need to be done, otherwise you never know what ..
          2. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 12 December 2015 13: 01
            +9
            Quote: Dryuya2
            so suggest - maybe I will support "your" candidate,
            but only criticism and criticism - where is the proposal ?? request

            Let me suggest.
            Decide on your own opinion. Not on the basis of what someone said, but on the basis of their own analysis. The election of the President is still far away, and it is less than a year before the elections to the State Duma. At least go to the polls and fulfill his citizen duty.
            To do this, go to the websites of the State Duma and political parties. See which laws have been adopted and which have not been adopted and for what reason during the "reporting period". Who voted how and who proposed what laws.
            It is clear that this is an unusual work for most on the site. I think that our own fate, the fate of loved ones, the fate of the motherland is worth it.
            Specially I do not write you my conclusions.
            1. ancient
              ancient 12 December 2015 21: 04
              0
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Let me suggest.


              And the question is ... will Churov "count" and .. "register"? wink lol
              1. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 12 December 2015 22: 14
                0
                Quote: ancient
                And the question is ... will Churov "count" and .. "register"? wink lol

                Are you proposing to complain about life and "fold your paws"? I disagree.
        4. sers1978
          sers1978 12 December 2015 11: 43
          +7
          What are these interests? Rest in a country that feeds and watered terrorists ?? With whose hand is a neighboring country in the war? Or, did you have to eat parmesan looking at the killings of the people in Crimea? Wake up already.
        5. Sega66
          Sega66 12 December 2015 18: 13
          -2
          Surname in the studio! Who is this even more for the interests of the people?
      3. Valentine
        Valentine 12 December 2015 12: 05
        +5
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        But at the same time, I have a very negative attitude to the executive branch in socio-economic terms. And there are probably not a few people like me, colleague.

        Vladimir, I also "have a negative attitude towards the executive branch in socio-economic terms," ​​but I support the president, because I see how he is fighting almost alone both with the executive branch and with external challenges. hi

        I agree with you, but ... Why no one talks about an alternative to Putin as president, Medvedev, how
        the prime minister, the government itself? After all, there must be at least some minimal "set" for this?
        Let's choose, hypothetically, Chubais (NaNo), Kasyanov (Misha-2%), Navalny (Forester), Kasparov (Queen), Nadezhdin (
        BoBoNa) -this is all people from the camp opposite Putin, who is now led by Misha-2% from abroad. That would be quiet and smooth with us and the USA, only
        kissing Uncle Sam's hand, we would have stood in line after Lithuania and Latvia, but with the economy it would have been the same as under the tsar-drunk Boris. Maybe someone thinks differently, maybe someone else has other options, as with "early Putin"?
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 12 December 2015 10: 47
      +6
      You have a normal position, like most colleagues in VO. All the outrages in this layer between the Kremlin and the people.
      Who has the number of landings: how many generals and officials last year crouched, how many prisoners for economic crimes and how many for criminal ones. The prisoners for terrorism are a little worried with ordinary criminals.
      Terrorists need their own "guantanomo".
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 12 December 2015 12: 07
        14
        Today in snatches I watched a film about Primakov at Zvezda. It was a very characteristic moment when he was prime minister. He was going to grant an amnesty for about 94 people. But as Primakov said, not only for reasons of humanity, but also in order to make room for real thieves who rob Russia on a grand scale. Including this, it was the last straw for Yeltsin's removal of Primakov.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 12 December 2015 13: 18
          +7
          Fragment with a birch remember? There during this period there was a scam with 3 lards from the IMF, of which 800 million came to Russia. The transfer was through a French bank, the owner of which mysteriously burned out in his guarded house with bullet-proof glass after a birch visit. Maksimych did not understand such liberalism, unlike birch. And the EBN was in the cell: yes, only 800 lyamas arrived, we’ll sort it out, we’ll look ... Somehow sideways this loss was related to Browder, the grandson of the head of the US Communist Party and part-time tsrul. Everyone knows about the Magnitsky-Browder case for buying shares in Gas Prom and the Magnitsky case. I want to say that for Browder, our country is like a feeding trough. His connections should be properly investigated by specialists with appropriate actions.
          I think so. hi
          1. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 12 December 2015 14: 52
            +6
            I want to say that for Browder, our country is like a feeding trough. His connections should be properly investigated by specialists with appropriate actions.
            It seems to me. hi

            Baloo, I completely agree with you! I think that the "Magnitsky law" was adopted by the Americans because the source of money was cut off for someone.
            By the way, according to the confessions of American political scientists and others ... The United States lived very well under Clinton. The reason is the plunder of the countries of the collapsed social camp, primarily the countries of the post-Soviet space. Naturally, without the help of "our" specialists, without connivance at the highest level, this process would at least be difficult.
            Berezovsky’s words to the camera were indeed quite characteristic.
          2. atalef
            atalef 12 December 2015 16: 24
            +1
            Quote: Balu
            There during this period there was a scam with 3 lards from the IMF, of which 800 million came to Russia.

            Tears and pennies compared to how much was stolen at the East, Olympics, Eurovision, World Cup, On pipelines and the military-industrial complex.
            How many were stolen offshore.
            Or am I wrong?
        2. atalef
          atalef 12 December 2015 16: 21
          0
          Quote: Aleksandr1959
          But as Primakov said, not only for reasons of humanity, but also in order to make way for real thieves robbing Russia on a large scale. Including this, it was the last straw for the removal of Primakov Yeltsin

          And what was it that prevented someone from planting? Or was there not enough room in prisons?
          1. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 12 December 2015 18: 50
            +4
            Apparently it didn’t interfere, but interfered. Yes, and did not have time to Evgeni Maximovich turn around. It's a pity.
        3. muhomor
          muhomor 12 December 2015 16: 55
          +2
          But Primakov was a communist! And he didn’t refuse his views!
          1. Sega66
            Sega66 12 December 2015 18: 21
            +3
            There were few real communists in those days, but now they simply do not exist, only a sign.
        4. Alf
          Alf 12 December 2015 23: 51
          +1
          Quote: Aleksandr1959
          to make room for real thieves

          And why release, if you can condense?
    3. cap
      cap 12 December 2015 10: 49
      +1
      I support + hi
    4. SergeyZel
      SergeyZel 12 December 2015 11: 16
      +2
      I am with you. Always ready to support.
    5. ancient
      ancient 12 December 2015 11: 17
      +8
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      pleased that the country is getting rid of the Yeltsin heritage.


      Vladimir, dear ... are you this ... that ..... just arrived from the constellation Alpha Centaurus? belay
      So maybe you have there .. "get rid" ... but here we have .. somewhere like that lol





      1. atalef
        atalef 12 December 2015 11: 43
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        pleased that the country is getting rid of the Yeltsin heritage.

        So Putin seems to be the same as a legacy.
      2. Homo
        Homo 12 December 2015 12: 08
        +2
        Quote: ancient
        Vladimir, dear ... are you this ... that ..... just arrived from the constellation Alpha Centaurus?
        So maybe you have there .. "get rid" ... but here we have .. somewhere like that

        Here's how to look. If you listen carefully to Putin, he spoke more about the First President "than about the EBN. And it is called" the museum of the first president of the EBN "and not" the museum of the EBN first president ".
        Or this - "The future museum - a museum not only of the history of the life and activities of the first president of Russia, but also a museum of the country's life, starting with the First World War, ending on December 31, 1999, when Yeltsin announced his resignation, ...".
        On the one hand, it seems to be a museum for the glory of EBN, and on the other, if you look closely at the reminder of the "black period" in the history of Russia. What would be seen, remembered and did not allow repetition.
        1. onix757
          onix757 12 December 2015 12: 14
          +1
          Quote: Homo
          Here's how to look. If you listen to Putin carefully, he spoke more about the First President "than about the EBN

          And what does that change?
        2. ancient
          ancient 12 December 2015 15: 07
          +5
          Quote: Homo
          and on the other, if you look carefully at the reminder


          And I will nickname myself out of curiosity ... "and skoko-skoko is .." look "and" reminder ".. WORTH? wassat
          1. natakor1949
            natakor1949 12 December 2015 16: 05
            -3
            Calm down, gentlemen, not a single ruble has been invested in state money in the EBN museum.
            1. Alf
              Alf 12 December 2015 23: 53
              +1
              Quote: natakor1949
              Calm down, gentlemen, not a single ruble has been invested in state money in the EBN museum.

              Are poor relatives chipped in?
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 13 December 2015 00: 01
              +3
              Quote: natakor1949
              Calm down, gentlemen, not a single ruble has been invested in state money in the EBN museum.

              dear, you probably were under drug addiction when it was announced throughout the country that the Eltsin arboretum cost the treasury 7 lardes of national money yes
          2. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 12 December 2015 16: 23
            +3
            Quote: ancient
            And I will nickname myself out of curiosity ... "and skoko-skoko is .." look "and" reminder ".. WORTH?

            This, Alexander, is, to say the least, perplexing. hi
      3. tomket
        tomket 12 December 2015 13: 41
        11
        And why didn’t they beat off such a center to Stalin? Or at least Peter the Great, as the first reformer? Yeltsin for any merit? In general, I look at this structure, and the longer I look, the stronger the hatred boils ....
        p / s. This architectural ensemble lacks a tower in the form of an open bottle of metropolitan vodka.
        1. Valentine
          Valentine 12 December 2015 15: 25
          +4
          Quote: tomket
          And why didn’t they beat off such a center to Stalin? Or at least Peter the Great, as the first reformer? Yeltsin for any merit? In general, I look at this structure, and the longer I look, the stronger the hatred boils ....
          p / s. This architectural ensemble lacks a tower in the form of an open bottle of metropolitan vodka.

          You, by any chance, have not been to Kureyka, near Igarka? So there was a memorial built there - under a huge glass dome there was a house in which Joseph Dzhugashvili lived in exile. And all the ships that passed by, and then there were only "wheeled" they moored the shore, led people in formation to the pier and through guards and searches of their bags, brought them to this house-museum, to look at the everyday life and the northern period of the exiled life of the "leader of all times of nations." AND
          interestingly, in the holds of these passenger ships were stages of prisoners in Norillag, under guard
          chain dogs and guards with machine guns. I was still a boy when driving along the Yenisei in Norilsk,
          and this glass dome still stands before my eyes, and its remains are still visible from the high bank ... And the new Yeltsin "mausoleum" -
          This is a monument to Russia impregnated with Yeltsin.
      4. anfil
        anfil 12 December 2015 16: 13
        0
        "The people who have forgotten their history are doomed to repeat it again!"
        "A people who have forgotten their past has no future" (Plato)
        "He who does not remember his history has no homeland."
        “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes.

        And you offer it to us

      5. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 12 December 2015 16: 21
        +4
        Quote: ancient
        Vladimir, dear ... are you this ... that ..... just arrived from the constellation Alpha Centaurus?
        So maybe you have there .. "get rid" ... but here we have .. somewhere like that


        It would be possible, Alexander, to get off the phrase about salt on the wound. But the topic is serious and I will answer honestly. The story of the EBNenny Center is extremely unpleasant for me, I consider myself in this situation to be somewhat offended.
        Something like this, a colleague, answered honestly. hi
        1. ancient
          ancient 12 December 2015 20: 05
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Something like this, a colleague, answered honestly.


          I was amazed by "all this" in the early days, when on Leningradka the CHORUS of the Gorbachev Fund "were built" ... seemingly as positioned for the people as "here he is ... a real pest of the people" and to this day the TOK show rushes from different tribunes ... it's all they (Humpbacked and EBN) are to blame ... but ... the savior .. everything .. "saves" .. well, that's okay. not about that.
          Just yesterday, on one of the TV channels they showed "Kid-dza-dza" and just before ... drinks
      6. Sega66
        Sega66 12 December 2015 18: 42
        -3
        And who built all this, or rather paid for the construction? Not our country, however.
    6. navigator
      navigator 12 December 2015 11: 32
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      Alexander, and where to include people like me. I have a normal attitude towards the president and being a patriot, I am pleased that the country is getting rid of the Yeltsin’s legacy. But at the same time, I have a very negative attitude to the executive branch in socio-economic terms. And there are probably not a few people like me, colleague


      That's exactly what many people think.
      1. Homo
        Homo 12 December 2015 12: 11
        +3
        Quote: navigator
        That's exactly what many people think.

        And many more (who know how to think and see beyond their noses) understand that it has been broken in 15 years, and it will take at least 50 years to recover. And if Western "friends" will "help" then even more!
    7. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 12 December 2015 11: 47
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      And there are probably not a few people like me, colleague.


      Vladimir! hi I am with you too. I adhere to a similar point of view.
    8. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 12 December 2015 15: 00
      0
      [quote = Vladimir 1964] [/ quote]

      Alexander, and where to include people like me. I have a normal attitude towards the president and being a patriot, I am pleased that the country is getting rid of the Yeltsin’s legacy. But at the same time, I have a very negative attitude to the executive branch in socio-economic terms. And there are probably not a few people like me, colleague. hi[/ Quote]

      Not to carry, but to take :) And where you need to be taken, and then taken, where and to guard for several years, knows the one who needs it (on duty). Tell him our common favorite verse - "I love the Motherland, but with a strange love" :)
  • Stanislas
    Stanislas 12 December 2015 10: 26
    +2
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    minuses will fly again now
    One has just woken up. And not surprisingly: they’ll ram them up with cookies, then before lunch they squeeze a mug on the pillow. It is necessary to report a violation of labor discipline to the State Department so that they are not overfed.
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 12 December 2015 10: 38
    +9
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin. More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But a completely different situation now: minus

    And what actually surprises you?
    If you ask me, I support Putin, I won’t answer, and if you ask specifically, I support the actions in, say, Syria or in relation to Turkey, but the government does not take economic actions.
    The people begin to think about their future and the future of children. The actions of the authorities are frankly liberal. There are already not enough endless shows, and such analytical figures as Nadezhdin and Goizman became familiar in analytical programs.
    So, this is not the result of the work of the State Department, but the result of the work of the "native" government.
    By the way, have you seen on TV at least once a discussion of the budget for next year? But all illiberal proposals were completely eliminated.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 12 December 2015 11: 45
      +8
      Quote: SRC P-15
      But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin. More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But a completely different situation now: minus
      -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
      Oh how! It feels like a person goes to the site as if to work in order to maintain Putin’s rating. So I will answer you that a strong leader does not need ratings-shmating, just as he does not need daily licking.
      Moreover, a strong leader must trace the mood in society, catching if something is wrong in his actions, according to his subjects. A strong leader will try to rectify the situation, A weak leader, on the contrary, will try to shut up his mouths, gloss over flaws, raise the rating. And here people like SRTs P-15 come to my aid. I, unlike you, don’t idolize Putin, I see his strengths, but I’m not going to hide my attitude to the mess in the social sphere, and what they try ..... , and I will criticize, because I care about the fate of the country, like many people here. You see, despite the same goals, we have different approaches
      I will criticize the flaws and note the good, you will crow from morning till night in the glory of your idol.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 12 December 2015 12: 07
        +3
        Quote: guzik007
        Oh how! It feels like a person goes to the site as if to work in order to maintain Putin’s rating. So I will answer you that a strong leader does not need ratings-shmating, just as he does not need daily licking.

        Just like me, I don't need your "fevered imagination"!
        For your information, before the last elections, I had a negative attitude towards the president, I confess, I fell for liberal tricks. But I was smart enough to figure it out and I already voted for Putin. I admit that he is not a god and he also makes mistakes, but "he who does nothing is not mistaken."
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 12 December 2015 13: 21
          +4
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          For your information, until the last election, I belonged to the president

          YOU are a unique person .. everyone until the last election voted for him .. and only now the majority is reviewing their views, and you have the other way around ..
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 12 December 2015 13: 39
            0
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            YOU are a unique person .. everyone until the last election voted for him .. and only now the majority is reviewing their views, and you have the other way around ..

            You think so? But what about the president’s current rating of 80%?
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 12 December 2015 15: 37
              +3
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              You think so? But what about the president’s current rating of 80%?

              Do you still operate with VTsIOM polls ???
              1. Sega66
                Sega66 12 December 2015 18: 50
                -4
                So already admit how you operate.
                1. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 13 December 2015 06: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Sega66
                  So already admit how you operate.

                  Well, if you follow your logic, no less than manuals from overseas .. wassat
          2. Sega66
            Sega66 12 December 2015 18: 48
            -2
            Are you Wang or something cooler? How do you know about the majority?
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 13 December 2015 06: 07
              +3
              Quote: Sega66
              Are you Wang or something cooler

              Much cooler .. I predict the weather without errors - .. the truth is yesterday .. wassat
              And to be precise - not that .. but who.
        2. ANTI.KORR.
          ANTI.KORR. 12 December 2015 16: 50
          +3
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          For your information, before the last election, I reacted negatively to the president, I admit, I was led by liberal tricks. But I was smart enough to figure it out and I already voted for Putin

          I have been hearing this training manual in various interpretations for about 5 years in the vast expanses of tyrnet.
          Like, I used to be not intelligent, but now he has seen his sight and if not who then?
          Seliger hat is all for teenagers negative
    2. alexej123
      alexej123 12 December 2015 14: 49
      0
      For Nadezhdin, Nekrasov, Goizman and co. - so they are specially shown together with Mikheev, Kurginyan, Satanovsky - so that people see xy from xy and do not forget about what they had to endure in the country in 90.
      1. ancient
        ancient 12 December 2015 15: 12
        +3
        Quote: alexej123
        so they are specially shown along with Mikheev, Kurginyan, Satanovsky


        Well, you compared .. Mikheev and Satanovsky belay Here the other day your Mikheev "uttered such a" urya-pearl "that belay - in short, in my own words, I state - "People should, against the backdrop of patriotic enthusiasm and despite all the" difficulties ", urgently engage in" increasing the birth rate "and so on.
        He’s a question .. because after all, you need to feed future children both in kindergarten and train ... not a small expense .. where to get something .. what’s the answer ... YOU NEED TO CHIP OFF YOURSELF lol

        Question .. is your Mikheev that .. "shiz" or .. "squirrel"? wassat
        1. alexej123
          alexej123 12 December 2015 19: 16
          +1
          Do you read my mind? Did I really say that I like Mikheev? I only said that I was deeply not impressed by Nadezhdin and others.
          1. ancient
            ancient 12 December 2015 20: 11
            +1
            Quote: alexej123
            that I am deeply disliked by Nadezhdin and others.


            Well, about "hope" .. it's not even discussed drinks

            And, by the way, there you have a comment about the "dashing 90s" ... they wrote a lot, a lot, they wrote it right, but then the receiver came and "everything is like ... it was screwed up" ... I strongly disagree soldier with all due respect to you drinks
            1. alexej123
              alexej123 13 December 2015 00: 27
              +1
              It means that he did not express himself fully and not precisely. I'm not talking about the fact that now everything is "in the tree", there are enough problems, including systemic ones. But even those who seem to be from the "ultra patriotic camp" argue against the GDP as the latest oil prices, the dollar exchange rate, etc. That is, all the dogmas of the liberals. Many again dream of cardinal decisions - "Take and divide". I'm against it. In my opinion, Russia has already exhausted the limit on revolutions. And for the 90s, I call them "roaring 90s" I have one question - who will be responsible for the loss of our people. After all, how many souls were lost from despair, from poverty, from the loss of landmarks and much more. Well, something like this. Respectfully mutual.
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            3. alexej123
              alexej123 13 December 2015 00: 45
              0
              I apologize for being chaotic. From the principle "You criticize - offer, offer - do". What way out of the current situation do you propose?
  • ancient
    ancient 12 December 2015 10: 47
    -1
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    . More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But the situation is completely different now: they are ruthlessly minus if they see that you support your president. What is it? Is it really that way of looking at Putin’s actions has changed, and


    Can you comment on this speech of our President ????



    And for reference ... the "picture" for today recourse Well, about ... the beginning of coal supplies to Ukraine, the continuation of lending in Ukraine to Sberbank, Gazprom Bank, and so on, so on and so on ....



    Or is it another HPP?

    So explain to me ... not reasonable ... maybe I don’t understand something? request

    Just don't need it too much, otherwise I'll immediately remember about the "lowering" coefficient to pension and "sweet promises" lol

    So .... + or - .. this is who is bigger and what chooses either a Zombie box or .. Refrigerator wassat
    1. R-22
      R-22 12 December 2015 11: 09
      +6
      the record is old and current at that time, but now it’s not. there is a struggle and a redivision of the world, rates have risen and today the Saudis are silent in a rag and are suffering a drop in prices, that’s all. well, the fact that the Saudis almost called friends, well, is this a politician and all that you want?
      1. onix757
        onix757 12 December 2015 11: 13
        +5
        the record is old and current at that time, but now it’s not. there is a struggle and a redivision of the world

        Ie the president does not have enough information for analysis for the future or is not able to analyze?
        1. atalef
          atalef 12 December 2015 16: 26
          +1
          Quote: onix757
          the record is old and current at that time, but now it’s not. there is a struggle and a redivision of the world

          Ie the president does not have enough information for analysis for the future or is not able to analyze?

          And what do you think ?
      2. ancient
        ancient 12 December 2015 11: 21
        +6
        Quote: R-22
        the record is old and up to date


        Yeah, what can I say .... "loyal subjects are shallow" .. in their eyes, and they have all the dew of God wassat

        Quote: R-22
        , well, so this is politics and all that you want?


        Well yes .. everything is exclusively HPP ... you just know what is being done in the country now? After all, no matter how hard they try to "not illuminate" and "stop everything", you can't hide an awl in a bag wink
        1. Sega66
          Sega66 12 December 2015 19: 05
          -2
          We do not know your country and, accordingly, we do not see the awl in it.
          1. ancient
            ancient 12 December 2015 21: 08
            0
            Quote: Sega66
            We are your country


            My address is not a house or street, my address is Soviet Union soldier

            Quote: Sega66
            and, accordingly, the awl in it is not visible.


            Well, of course .. who can see something because of the "high fence" lol
      3. 8 inches
        8 inches 12 December 2015 11: 28
        +6
        the record is old .. and that then there was no redistribution of the world? Or can the Saudis first arrange a price drop and keep it? I remind you that the guardian countries artificially arranged a drop in oil prices in 80 and kept it until the collapse of the Soviet Union. And the Saudis played the first role there ... and the fact that our analysts give the wrong forecasts, the president’s fault is also considerable. these are his people, and he is responsible for them. Or do you think you should not be responsible for the actions of your subordinates?
        1. ancient
          ancient 12 December 2015 15: 26
          +3
          Quote: 8 inches
          and the president’s fault is also considerable. It’s his people, and he is responsible for them. Or do you think you should not be responsible for the actions of your subordinates?


          They have it with their approval ... the Tsar is ... sacred ... all the boyars-infidels "turn the deeds", and he .. everything with them "in his fight .. then with them, then .. with corruption" lol

          That's just a question .. and HTO is gaining them then .. into its .. "command".

          well, since the old one .. then there are "forecasts" .. newer wassat

          "Pearls" from Siluanov: wassat

          Moscow January 20, 2015 .The Russian economy will demonstrate negative growth rates in 2015 if the oil price drops to $ 60 per barrel ... At the same time, Minister Siluanov noted that, in all likelihood, "the decline in oil prices to $ 70 or $ 60 per barrel will not be long-term trend ". In his opinion, "the price of oil will fluctuate this year in the range of $ 80-90."

          KAZAN, December 12, 2015. / Corr. TASS Alexey Ugarov. Demand and the price of oil in 2016 will continue to decline; in some periods, the price of oil will fall below $ 30 per barrel. This was announced by Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov at a meeting in Kazan ...
          According to the Minister, the Russian budget for 2016 was formed on the basis of oil prices of $ 50 per barrel, and now oil prices have fallen to $ 36 - 37 per barrel.
          1. atalef
            atalef 12 December 2015 15: 57
            +3
            Quote: ancient
            Moscow January 20, 2015 The Russian economy will demonstrate negative growth rates in 2015 if the oil price drops to $ 60 per barrel ... At the same time, Minister Siluanov noted that, in all likelihood, “oil prices will decrease to $ 70 or $ 60 a barrel will not become a long-term trend. " In his opinion, "the price of oil will fluctuate in the range of $ 80-90 this year."

            KAZAN, December 12, 2015. / Corr. TASS Alexey Ugarov. Demand and the price of oil in 2016 will continue to decline; in some periods, the price of oil will fall below $ 30 per barrel. This was announced by Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov at a meeting in Kazan ...
            According to the Minister, the Russian budget for 2016 was formed on the basis of oil prices of $ 50 per barrel, and now oil prices have fallen to $ 36 - 37 per barrel.

            I hope that in GS analysts are better than in MED.
            1. 8 inches
              8 inches 12 December 2015 16: 15
              +4
              I also hope .. but remembering what was voiced on Iraq .... after all, what forecasts were put and everything went the other way round. None of the analysts even approached the probable development of events. It becomes very sad. After all, because of their mistakes, we then pay with our blood.
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 12 December 2015 11: 26
      +4
      Quote: ancient
      Just don't need it too much, otherwise I'll immediately remember about the "lowering" coefficient to pension and "sweet promises"

      It is very good that so far we feel bad .. It hurts. K. Chukovsky
    3. atalef
      atalef 12 December 2015 11: 45
      +1
      Quote: ancient
      Can you comment on this speech of our President ????

      Yeah.
    4. ANTI.KORR.
      ANTI.KORR. 12 December 2015 16: 42
      +1
      Quote: ancient
      Can you comment on this speech of our President ????

      And what is there to comment on? We have already been here for 15 years ... one, like, says something, while the others present pretend that everything is pralic.
      and Vanka sits on a couch covered in pasta, shouts ur-rrrya, encouraged and pleased with a swig of moonshine.
      1. Yuliya2209
        Yuliya2209 14 December 2015 07: 29
        +2
        and Vanka sits on a sofa covered in pasta, shouts urrrrya, encouraged and pleased with a swig of moonshine. [/ quote]

        And Vanka on the couch, I suppose it's you ..........
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 December 2015 07: 51
        0
        Quote: ANTI.KORR.
        and Vanka sits on a couch covered in pasta, shouts ur-rrrya, encouraged and pleased with a swig of moonshine.

        Your brother? Did not try to encode?
        Open your British flag that you closed with the flag of the USSR. Maikl or whatever you
  • Phantom Revolution
    Phantom Revolution 12 December 2015 10: 58
    -3
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin. More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But the situation is completely different now: they are ruthlessly minus if they see that you support your president. What is it? Is it really that way of looking at Putin’s actions has changed, or is it the work of the State Department, which has allocated a huge amount to the fight against our country, in social networks?

    Opens 1 people of 10-20 accounts and minus, that's all arithmetic.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 12 December 2015 11: 30
      +8
      Opens 1 people of 10-20 accounts and minus, that's all arithmetic.
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      For what purpose, do not tell? No, I admit that there are 0,1% of the mentally abnormal. So why post nonsense?
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 13 December 2015 11: 17
        0
        Quote: guzik007
        Opens 1 people of 10-20 accounts and minus, that's all arithmetic.
        --------------------------------------------------------------------
        For what purpose, do not tell? No, I admit that there are 0,1% of the mentally abnormal. So why post nonsense?

        Well, with the goal of creating an atmosphere of fictional opinion. And where is the nonsense?) Why are you alarmed at such a post?)
    2. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 12 December 2015 11: 44
      +6
      Quote: Phantom Revolution
      Opens 1 people of 10-20 accounts and minus, that's all arithmetic.

      I have one, and you? Do you really have minus plus sign on yourselves in VO?
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    1. severniy
      severniy 12 December 2015 11: 03
      0
      Quote: Phantom Revolution
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin. More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But the situation is completely different now: they are ruthlessly minus if they see that you support your president. What is it? Is it really that way of looking at Putin’s actions has changed, or is it the work of the State Department, which has allocated a huge amount to the fight against our country, in social networks?

      Opens 1 people of 10-20 accounts and minus, that's all arithmetic.

      Quote: Phantom Revolution
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin. More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But the situation is completely different now: they are ruthlessly minus if they see that you support your president. What is it? Is it really that way of looking at Putin’s actions has changed, or is it the work of the State Department, which has allocated a huge amount to the fight against our country, in social networks?

      Opens 1 people of 10-20 accounts and minus, that's all arithmetic.

      Or prints two posts .... wassat laughing wassat no offense... hi
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 12 December 2015 13: 07
        +1
        And I also sometimes get two posts on my home computer. I really try to control, I remove the superfluous, but sometimes I get carried away and forget to remove. Virus? hi
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 12 December 2015 13: 25
          +4
          Quote: Balu
          Virus? hi

          Rather, the time for double-clicking the mouse (adjustable in the properties) or freezing the response of the Internet.
        2. teascher
          teascher 12 December 2015 13: 45
          +2
          Baloo (8) And sometimes I also get two posts on my home computer. I really try to control, I remove the superfluous, but sometimes I get carried away and forget to remove. Virus? The State Department is to blame.
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 13 December 2015 11: 16
            0
            Thanks, accepted. The State Department and Chubais are to blame for everything. bully
        3. ancient
          ancient 12 December 2015 15: 27
          +1
          Quote: Balu
          Virus?


          Clean the history, cookies and cache in your browser and that's it .. drinks
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          2. Baloo
            Baloo 13 December 2015 11: 19
            +1
            Thanks, accepted, I'll try.
  • Azazel
    Azazel 12 December 2015 12: 13
    +7
    Is this the result of the work of the State Department, or am I somehow behind and don’t understand the current situation? Nevertheless, I am inclined to the first: a struggle is waged against us on all fronts, including on the liberal one. And we need to be fully prepared in relation to them. (You will see, the minuses will fly again now, but it’s kind of violet to me, let them go crazy.)

    this is the result of the "work" of the liberal government ... I do not belong to any opposition parties, but recently I noticed that a lot of ordinary people are changing their attitude towards the president ...
    thinking what is the reason ???
    and all to the point of banality is simple ... along with the popular sermons of the GDP, not very popular laws are passed, the actions of which only worsen the welfare of citizens, and throw some of them below the poverty line ...
    and they would have endured it, after all, a crisis ... but where is justice being asked ???
    Why are they trying to solve this crisis only at the expense of the poor ?? the rich get richer and the poor get poorer ...
    the retinue defines the King, hence the skepticism among the people: "... the master is good, and the servants are bad ???" ... mostly people feel the "dishonesty" of all these manipulations and no longer look upward so trustingly ...
    My personal opinion is that I once took up building a NEW Russia, then building it not according to liberal calculations, but taking into account the Russian mentality (and not Western patterns), raise your education - these are future specialists of the country, culture is the soul of the people .... in short, I am against the liberal path of development of Russia ...
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  • Nikolay K
    Nikolay K 12 December 2015 13: 44
    +7
    Minus when there are comments like "our Putin is the best, the best Putin in the world, he made us happy, we will win all, and the West and America are a lot", and this is usually written without any argumentation, stupidly as a slogan, like the Ukrainian "glory to the heroes" or "who does not jump,". I don't know about you, but personally, I'm not going to ride. And if I think that Putin makes mistakes, then I consider it possible for myself to criticize him. And rejoice when he does something for the good of the country.
    1. Maxom75
      Maxom75 12 December 2015 13: 59
      +2
      I never said that GDP is the best, it makes mistakes like all of us, but I am not ashamed of it, unlike Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
  • spiriolla-45
    spiriolla-45 12 December 2015 14: 23
    +5
    And what did you cry? While there are articles on foreign policy, many agree with the actions of the president, and when they start talking about internal affairs, the rejection of the GDP comes to the surface. And why should I behave differently? Why should I, for any reason, swear my love and loyalty to the sim regime? My ancestors had a motto ": For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland". I love my homeland, but the tsar does not impress me in everything, and we also believe, the campaign, in different Gods. To whom the icon is a dollar, and someone kneels before the images.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 13 December 2015 05: 46
      +1
      Quote: spiriolla-xnumx
      Why did you cry so much? While there are articles on foreign policy, many agree with the actions of the president, and when they start talking about internal affairs, the rejection of the activity of the GDP comes to the surface.

      So this is a respected one and there is a struggle between "TV" and "refrigerator", that is, the virtual and real components of our being ..
      There has not yet been a case in history that the "refrigerator" would lose hi
  • Yars
    Yars 12 December 2015 19: 07
    -1
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    With this article they will check how many of us are left on the site of "shortcomings" ... You can't take a lie!

    But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin. More recently, for a positive comment about our president, you could get the pros. But the situation is completely different now: they are ruthlessly minus if they see that you support your president. What is it? Is it really that way of looking at Putin’s actions has changed, or is it the work of the State Department, which has allocated a huge amount to the fight against our country, in social networks? A huge number of new nicknames have appeared that are aggressively opposed to our president. Is this the result of the work of the State Department, or am I somehow behind and don’t understand the current situation? Nevertheless, I am inclined to the first: a struggle is waged against us on all fronts, including on the liberal one. And we need to be fully prepared in relation to them. (You will see, the minuses will fly again now, but it’s kind of violet to me, let them go crazy.)

    I agree, the liberals of our forum like Hyenas go in packs and feed on carrion
  • sir_obs
    sir_obs 12 December 2015 19: 38
    +3
    As for foreign policy., I support Putin, although it can be tougher. But in the internal, not very, very many questions, answers to which you can never wait.
  • ac5pr7u
    ac5pr7u 12 December 2015 21: 28
    +1
    I used to be ambivalent about Putin, I believe that such a liberal as everyone else, he said that he is a liberal and he has only liberals in the government, with rare exceptions.
  • crumb
    crumb 12 December 2015 22: 12
    +1
    just liberals are becoming more liberal and tolerant wink
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 13 December 2015 12: 01
    0
    Putin, keeps this shusher on a short leash. Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich smart uncle. Uncle Vova well done! Hooray!
  • KVS
    KVS 13 December 2015 19: 53
    0
    but is it time for citizens of the Russian Federation to demand deputies of the liberals to bring to MA for treason?
    more than enough reason ...
    Yes, and confirmation will not be difficult to find the competent authorities ...
  • user1212
    user1212 14 December 2015 06: 30
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Is it really that way of looking at Putin’s actions has changed, or is it the work of the State Department, which has allocated a huge amount to the fight against our country, in social networks?

    The pre-election campaign "Misha 2%" (which was Kasyanov) began. Money invested, work is underway laughing
  • lelikas
    lelikas 14 December 2015 10: 38
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin.

    The point is not even who relates to Pu, I, for example, do not relate to him in any way, we do not even know each other;), but on other topics, I can name the number of our "opposition" - 55-60 people + - several. :)
  • kalibr
    kalibr 14 December 2015 11: 57
    0
    No, the minuses will not fly to you, you are asking the right questions. But ... why do you reduce everything to the fact that people were "bought"? How do you imagine it? What do they turn to you and offer to write "against"? But ... it's easy to calculate! And then ... how much would you agree? Read my articles here. Let's just say I could write any article about anything. But ... how much will I get paid for it from there? I have published articles in Western magazines and I know the prices: 80-100 dollars for a magazine material of 8000 characters. It is not enough! Not enough for losing your reputation, is it? And nobody will give a million to me, not to you! People there can count money! In addition, one article for this amount of weather will not do. And a lot ... where will you add a lot of them to who needs them in large quantities? And most importantly, how do you explain why you are paid "from there" when you are "invited to a conversation"? Do you think "where necessary" the cash flows "from there" are not monitored? And if as you write SHIT ARRIVES, then who is to blame? Is it only the State Department or is he just taking advantage of the situation? The Strugatskys have a similar point of view in the INHABITED ISLAND. There, too, it was argued that everyone who was against was bought for Khontian gold. And white men in civilian life argued that the commissars were bought for the commissar's ration. Probably thinking as you suggest would be a simplification, don't you think?
  • ksan
    ksan 14 December 2015 12: 33
    0
    SRC P-15 (5) EU December 12, 2015 10:03 ↑
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    With this article they will check how many of us are left on the site of "shortcomings" ... You can't take a lie!
    But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin.
    "Liberal riffraff" is unlikely to have increased, "military actions" just escalated, and how in every war all the "husks" fly off a person and its essence is exposed, it becomes clear WHO IS HE really fellow And the “Partners” demand that the “elite” and “liberal intelligentsia” show themselves, express their “strong opinion” with or without. And as a result, WE have what we have. hi
    1. V. Salama
      V. Salama 14 December 2015 16: 01
      0
      Quote: ksan
      ... in every war, all the "husk" flies from a person and its essence is exposed, it becomes clear WHO HE really is
      Don't understand what this is about? I recall the phrase thrown to the "Afghan" in the military commissariat, which applied for the prescribed benefits: "I did not send you there!" Ask the "Afghans" how then the society treated the defenders of the Fatherland? Now, if the state now guarantees, at least free prostheses, if returned, and help to the family, if a soldier or volunteer has not returned and determines the need for participation in a ground operation ... then we will be there, in the war, and there we will look who is who. Syria is not Ukraine, where we are not at war, is everything legal here or what? - Are we defending national interests there?
  • V. Salama
    V. Salama 14 December 2015 15: 39
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    ... liberal riffraffers increased at times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin.

    I cease to understand the members of the forum. Putin by the way, liberal.
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    ... minus ruthlessly if they see that you support your president.
    It seemed to me. that this president, in the end, began to support his people, though so far more in foreign policy.
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 14 December 2015 19: 06
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    minus ruthlessly if they see that you support your president.
  • Starley from the south
    Starley from the south 14 December 2015 20: 15
    0
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    You see, minuses will fly again now, but it’s kind of violet to me,

    And there are still more advantages! "And yet it turns" (G. Galilei).
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 15 December 2015 08: 18
    +1
    But the situation is completely different now: they are ruthlessly minus if they see that you support your president

    Yes, the situation has changed. But she changed the other way. Just ruthlessly and without hesitation minus those who criticize the GDP. The development of the military-industrial complex is a necessary thing. Even more than necessary is vital. But the economy ... Could have done more. There are a number of steps that suggest themselves, one of them is a monopoly on alcohol. But besides raising prices and increasing excise taxes, they cannot come up with anything. And cursing the liberals, are we not scolding the president, is he also a liberal? An ambiguous situation is obtained.
  • alexng
    alexng 12 December 2015 10: 04
    0
    There are not so many shortcomings, and the rest are from very "close", the color of child's surprise, abroad. And home-grown, somewhere within the statistical error, and then within Moscow and its suburbs.
    1. alexng
      alexng 12 December 2015 12: 45
      -2
      Already two liberals would light up if they were not in the administration of the site.
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 12 December 2015 10: 08
    11
    It's just that no one is so sincerely happy about the problems and troubles of their country, no one is ready to so shamelessly plunge it into another turmoil, no one is ready to sell the interests of the country and its people as cheaply as our "mega men" - liberals.
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 12 December 2015 13: 56
      +7
      How to say . ... .Some, as you said, "liberals" rejoice at least openly. But how many "patriots" at the top of our power, who keep money stolen from the workplace in their native country in foreign banks, are used to rest on their own pitchfork somewhere on the Cote d'Azur, in Spain, or at worst Bulgaria and Montenegro, whose children are studying in British schools and colleges, and which seem to be for Putin and Russia, but understand that if, God forbid, confrontation with the West begins in a serious way, then everything that "was acquired by back-breaking labor, everything is gone." So, in comparison with these pseudo-patriots, in my opinion, the "liberals" are much more honest and actually much less dangerous for the country.
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      2. alexej123
        alexej123 12 December 2015 14: 58
        +1
        That's right - they always betray their own.
    2. natakor1949
      natakor1949 12 December 2015 16: 54
      0
      "... all professional political scientists know ...", I'm not a political scientist, I just live for a long time in my beloved country, I just watch everyone and the liberals too, and I know for sure if this caste of ENEMIES disappeared from Russia, then, of course , the people would have long lived humanly and in prosperity, and our homeland also flourished. It pisses me off when these paid pr ..., begin to squeal about protecting the people. Whatever topic is raised by the arbiters of destinies such as Kasyanov, Gudkov, Nadezhdin and others like them (5% of the country) - the first phrase is about how hard life is for the people in Russia. Shut up and do not dare to worry about me for amer's money, gentlemen-halui. And don't you dare remember the President even in sue. Do you think the people of Russia have forgotten the 90s? And who was at the trough then, eh? After all, you destroyed the Great Power, ....
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  • Banshee
    Banshee 12 December 2015 10: 14
    +4
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    With this article they will check how many of us are left on the site of "shortcomings" ... You can't take a lie!


    Oi-vei, is that sho so worried? Take Moreover, we all know in accordance with the lists of anonymous.

    And provocations will not be brought to good, for marshal shoulder straps do not give immunity, rather, on the contrary.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 12 December 2015 10: 44
      +3
      Quote: Banshee
      Marshal epaulettes of immunity do not give, rather, the opposite.


      good although people think differently ... laughing

      Thank you Roman for yesterday’s article ... I read it incognito with pleasure and did not go into the discussion ...
      1. ancient
        ancient 12 December 2015 11: 28
        0
        Quote: vorobey
        with pleasure I read incognito and did not begin to climb into the discussion ...


        Sanya ... shovels ... are over? Or ... is everyone already missing? drinks
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 12 December 2015 12: 24
          +3
          Quote: ancient
          Or ... is everyone already missing?


          I save the resource ... laughing hi Seryoga .. with a holiday .. what a holiday. laughing
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 13 December 2015 05: 51
            0
            Quote: vorobey
            Hi Seryoga

            Sasha to whom to trust ?? Serega or Sasha ?? what laughing
            1. natakor1949
              natakor1949 13 December 2015 11: 00
              -2
              Nobody needs to be trusted, but it is simply necessary to analyze and think with your own head. And the opposition paid, I watch something zealously intensified in the VO. Pederasty is treated in a harsh way. Syria feels pushing the black Sam, and he, like a puppeteer, pulls our Khodorkovsky and so forth. TV ....
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 10: 47
      0
      Quote: Banshee
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      With this article they will check how many of us are left on the site of "shortcomings" ... You can't take a lie!


      Oi-vei, is that sho so worried? Take Moreover, we all know in accordance with the lists of anonymous.

      And provocations will not be brought to good, for marshal shoulder straps do not give immunity, rather, on the contrary.

      Pin up Roman clearly! I keep silent ... (laughed at himself from the heart ..)))) laughing Oh, wey ....
      1. severniy
        severniy 12 December 2015 11: 06
        +4
        I keep silent ... (laughed at himself from the heart ..)))) laughing Oh, wey ....

        Here it is democracy in pagons .... good
    3. tomket
      tomket 12 December 2015 13: 50
      +3
      Quote: Banshee
      for marshal epaulettes of immunity do not give, rather, the opposite.

      A conspiracy of "red marshals" is brewing in VO apparently))))
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 12 December 2015 20: 48
        +3
        Quote: tomket
        Quote: Banshee
        for marshal epaulettes of immunity do not give, rather, the opposite.

        A conspiracy of "red marshals" is brewing in VO apparently))))


        what an old song ... you must remember that .. laughing
  • Aleksandr Tot
    Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 21: 11
    -2
    Mikhalych, I, too, Mikhalych. My regalia (gaits) zaminusili and demoted for the opinion of the king of unseeing nudity. Fun. I wanted to leave VO because of the stupid waste of time throwing beads. Comments on VO became a source of Hoch for KVN.
    You're lying, do not take it!
    We will win the roads, and the rest cannot be understood with our minds!
  • ksan
    ksan 14 December 2015 12: 23
    -1
    you will learn from a liberal "expert" that "Russia is to blame for everything and demands unnecessary sacrifices from citizens. That is exactly how it is, and not vice versa, as they are trying to present it.
    In Russia, a "community" of Russian Liberators has formed, this is a very stable "community", a stratum or even a class of people, many of them are in power or belong to the so-called "elite" and they largely determine politics both inside the country and abroad. And if foreign policy is completely the prerogative of the President and his team, then inside the country, to a greater extent, the diocese of the government. And with a frankly weak Premier, who regularly “draws” Roadmaps, “fixes trends”, and has little idea of ​​what to do with these “innovations” and “nanotechnologies” and what to do with THEM, ill-considered initiatives and decisions are constantly “born”, to put it mildly. And when such "liberalism" then the result is BARDAK and anarchy.
  • Penetrator
    Penetrator 12 December 2015 09: 52
    16
    What's so interesting about it? The author does not even suggest that our liberals can shit not only for money, but also because of fierce Russophobia. If they pay, they will not pay this business tenth, gentlemen work for the future: "We are in power here!", Remember? And to associate Khodorkovsky with smuggled oil from Syria is generally a high flight of imagination: Misha is a scoundrel, but not an idiot.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 12 December 2015 11: 31
      +1
      Quote: Penetrator
      And what is interesting about her?

      good I wanted to write the same thing, the author cites the wrong argument ..
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 12 December 2015 10: 06
    21
    Quote: Penetrator
    The author does not even suggest that our liberals can crap not only for money, but also elementary from fierce Russophobia.

    This says it all and nothing to add.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 12 December 2015 10: 35
      11
      "Every decent person, faced with a dictatorship regime, must have the courage to commit high treason" - these are the words of Dmitry Zimin, founder of the Dynasty Foundation. There is nothing to add, except to voice the diagnosis once again - they are sick in the head with progressive syphilis of the soul.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 12 December 2015 11: 27
        +2
        There is nothing new in this, one "creative" in the 19th century wrote:

        How sweet - to hate the homeland!
        And eagerly wait for her humiliation!
        And see the destruction of the homeland
        World Day of Rebirth.

        Oh, not for nothing in the 30s they said "enemy of the people." It is the people.
  • anfil
    anfil 12 December 2015 11: 53
    0
    Indeed, it is difficult to imagine a domestic oppositionist and one source of income as a whole, indivisible and complete. There is a disturbing feeling of unnaturalness and unreality of the picture drawn by imagination.


    And what is there to represent these oppositionists, it is enough to look at the "friends" who did not even bother to condemn the actions of Turkey, probably fearing that cooperation in the CSTO will have to strain.

    MOSCOW, 12 DEC - PRIME. President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko called on the Russian Federation and Turkey "not to escalate the situation" and restore bilateral relations.

    The Belarusian leader noted that mistakes in international politics are inevitable, and governments should “take at least half a step towards each other” in order to restore close good neighborly relations.

    "Errors should not be whipped up, but decided, to make concessions and compromises. This also applies to the latest conflict between Russia and Turkey," Lukashenka quotes a statement made during his speech at the International Conference on the Policy of Neutrality, RIA Novosti.


    Although the main income comes from trade with Russia.
  • ivan48857
    ivan48857 14 December 2015 09: 10
    0
    For me, on the contrary, most of the Russians are not interested in the opinion of these "people" for a long time.
  • Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 14 December 2015 23: 34
    0
    I do not agree, colleague. This liberal complexity has long been known. Nothing new. Just once again wrote about it. It would be better if they suggested where the bulls are found. I want to meet and talk heart to heart.
  • moskowit
    moskowit 12 December 2015 09: 48
    +5
    "... And all the good things in themselves have been distributed ..." (V. Vysotsky)
  • serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 12 December 2015 09: 48
    +5
    Where are you comrade Stalin ...
    1. Darth Vader
      Darth Vader 12 December 2015 09: 55
      +5
      Here, it’s rather not Comrade Stalin that is needed, but Comrade Sudoplatov .... Together with comrades in arms ...
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 12 December 2015 10: 13
        16
        Quote: Darth Vader
        Here, it’s rather not Comrade Stalin that is needed, but Comrade Sudoplatov .... Together with comrades in arms ...
        1. alexej123
          alexej123 12 December 2015 15: 03
          0
          I reread the book once 50. Mironov ruined the film. The role of Alekhine is one of his worst roles.
    2. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 12 December 2015 10: 01
      27
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      Where are you comrade Stalin ...
    3. WHEEL
      WHEEL 12 December 2015 10: 02
      -10 qualifying.
      и
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      Where are you comrade Stalin ...

      in the grave near the Kremlin wall
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 12 December 2015 10: 05
        16
        Quote: WHEEL
        in the grave near the Kremlin wall


        ENVY - SIN. laughing
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        2. cap
          cap 12 December 2015 11: 00
          +3
          Judging by how much they write about him, they say they quote, they can’t forget, they curse and quote ...
          "Schaub I lived like this ..." as they say in the city of the hero Odessa hi .
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 12 December 2015 11: 36
            +1
            Quote: cap
            Judging by how much they write about him, they say they quote, they can’t forget, they curse and quote ...

            and paradoxically, this is an argument among the Zaputinists and anti-Putinists, a universal trump card .. joker
            1. cap
              cap 12 December 2015 12: 54
              +2
              "Joker" is always, but never "six", which cannot be said about the current guardians "for the fatherland" who have a passport in every pocket hi .
  • Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 12 December 2015 09: 53
    +6
    Everything in this mortal world has its own measure and price, and this price is not always money. Many of the so-called liberals position themselves as irreconcilable ideological fighters for "freedom and independence." Apparently for the freedom to defecate on the heads of others with their "ideas", without fear of responsibility and "independence" from conscience, morality and everything that makes a person human. Judas sold his conscience and soul for "30 pieces of silver." How many pieces of silver did these traitors receive? And Khodor just passionately wants to enter power, or rather to become this very power in Russia himself, because power is influence and money, big money. The very ones that replaced him with honor and conscience. For this he will do anything.
    I have the honor.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 14 December 2015 12: 34
      0
      He seeks vengeance. I would like to avenge humiliation with humiliation!
  • Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 12 December 2015 09: 53
    30
    Thinking out loud.
    1. Banshee
      Banshee 12 December 2015 10: 15
      +3
      Why trifle? Immediately before all. And before Zimbabwe.
      1. severniy
        severniy 12 December 2015 11: 52
        +4
        Cool actress, well, then it's not up to you to climb ...
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 12 December 2015 14: 56
          +1
          In my opinion, the mother-in-law of the Soviet film distribution should be forgiven for a long time, at least for her talent. We pecked the old woman, even feel sorry for her. We are evil. Well, let yourself strum with bones and rattle with a false jaw. No need to notice. There are more serious enemies and fatter.
        2. PValery53
          PValery53 12 December 2015 16: 50
          +2
          This small individual, it seems, has an immense soul. She has a special civic position! She’s a bit old for special positions ...
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 12 December 2015 09: 53
    0
    Liberasty act on the principle: if someone does something bad to Russia, you need to support him! Yes, and for the money.

    Some blasphemy. Everyone understands that the plane was shot down unreasonably, even if (namely IF) for a few seconds he accidentally flew into someone else's airspace, except for the liberals. In their opinion, if you are offered a piece of shit, you should eat it. Turkey, such as good, despite the fact that the airspace of Greece violates daily; It has invaded occupation troops in Iraq, it’s illegally sophisticated with international straits, it sends gray wolves to Crimea, crushes Kurds, etc.
  • raid14
    raid14 12 December 2015 09: 54
    +2
    Then Judas, who betrayed Him, when he saw that He was condemned, and repenting, returned thirty pieces of silver to the high priests and elders, saying: I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.
    But they said to him, What do we care? take a look yourself. And having thrown the pieces of silver in the temple, he went out, went and strangled himself. The chief priests, taking the pieces of silver, said: It is not permissible to put them in the church treasury, because this is the price of blood.
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 12 December 2015 10: 28
      +3
      It is appropriate to say; only now I strongly doubt that someone will be strangled. Ponomarev, Kasparov, Khodorkovsky fled abroad and have wild shamanistic dances there.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 12 December 2015 11: 39
        +1
        Quote: Gormengast
        Ponomarev, Kasparov, Khodorkovsky fled abroad and have wild shamanistic dances there.

        You know what is sad in this story .. They quite calmly waved a pen through the VIP-hall .. but not crawling, dressed and miraculously survived - crawled on the belly across the border ..
  • venaya
    venaya 12 December 2015 09: 57
    +2
    It is ridiculous to assume that Khodorkovsky, as poor fellow Udaltsov, was bought for some miserable 35 thousand dollars. There must be something serious, something corresponding to the level

    Also always thought about it. What needs to be done, what should be proposed so that these creatures so hate the country in which they were born. Without Dr. Lambroso and his work in the field of psychiatry, it would be difficult to explain.
  • LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 12 December 2015 09: 59
    +4
    Yes, they are not liberals. This is scale. Like in the broth. And what does scum do so that the broth is clean?
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 12 December 2015 10: 00
    +7
    I think that some of them are completely disinterested hates Russia.
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 12 December 2015 10: 31
      +2
      Well, disinterestedly - these are everyday liberals. And those who, as they say, are well-known - sooner or later they receive Judah grants.
      1. sl22277
        sl22277 12 December 2015 10: 59
        +3
        I agree with you. But money plays a huge role ... Thanks to the author for an interesting article and a pleasant and sharp syllable. There is nothing to add. Li-be-rust in Russia has become a profession. Professionally became: To sell and betray the homeland. These are anti-Russian Western prostitutes serving foreign opinion for money.
  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 12 December 2015 10: 01
    0
    The site is stupid again. Not the first day. Administration will take measures or how? Comments are not posted. And if they are suddenly located, then editing them is not possible.
    1. Banshee
      Banshee 12 December 2015 10: 16
      +5
      And this is a question in time for the other side. DDOS is the second day, and this time they took a thorough start. Administration measures taken, do not worry.
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 11: 07
        +2
        Quote: Banshee
        And this is a question in time for the other side. DDOS is the second day, and this time they took a thorough start. Administration measures taken, do not worry.

        Also noticed .. Hold on there! hi If you name the addresses ... We with the men will arrange them DDOS as in Kursk!
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 12 December 2015 15: 55
        +1
        Quote: Banshee
        . DDOS the second day goes,

        Liberals attack laughing
        But seriously, what I think in my comments the words have changed in places ..
      3. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 12 December 2015 18: 03
        +1
        Hang on guys! God help you!
        Let the enemy fart tears at the British flag.
        If they hate us, then let's go right.
      4. alexej123
        alexej123 12 December 2015 19: 26
        0
        By the way, on 12.12.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX I try to go to the "Eye of the Planet" - they report that there is a DDOS attack.
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  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 12 December 2015 10: 01
    +1
    The behavior of liberoids is pushing me more and more into thinking about mutagens. They are apparently added to the cookies in the embassy striped. Remember the cookies on the Maidan. One packet and a whole territory of mutants. And with "our" liberoids as well. Than they are pumped except for money. Through an enema go, Western values ​​however. Yes, and direct access to the body for thought of the liberoid. For they think they are down.
  • provincial
    provincial 12 December 2015 10: 03
    +3
    The less we remember these ..., the faster they will go into silence.
    1. provincial
      provincial 12 December 2015 10: 47
      0
      Let the FSB deal with them, it’s time for them to regain these powers. One hell, we will not be holier than the Pope, no matter how we try to prove this to the whole world.
  • Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 12 December 2015 10: 07
    +1
    Maybe just do not pay attention to them? Do not spread their words across the media space (sorry for the tautology). And then they shut up, knowing that no one knows and does not listen to them. Maybe all of the Bykov-Alekseev-redheads from the picture quietly leave for their beloved Israel or Amerigo-Israel, and live the simple life of Amirikangz farmers there, growing soybeans and corn?
  • Vadimsh
    Vadimsh 12 December 2015 10: 12
    0
    I still don’t understand how in places a few distant rabbit breeders were not crushed in fuel tanks
  • askort154
    askort154 12 December 2015 10: 14
    +1
    The puppeteers realized that the invested funds in: Kasyanov, Kasparov, Navalny,
    Gudkov, Ponamareva - burned down like in a furnace and they are political corpses. It looks like they decided to promote Khodorkovsky and Ryzhkov. Both have become noticeably "more active".
  • BOB044
    BOB044 12 December 2015 10: 17
    +2
    Liberast and he is a liberalist with Turkey. Liberast is all one whose ass to lick just to be paid. And his country can be mixed with shit ... m. The main thing is to put money in your pocket.
  • onix757
    onix757 12 December 2015 10: 19
    0
    All those who are depicted in the picture are a product of power, created for horror stories and distraction. Extra-power is fed by our power for use as a lightning rod.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 12 December 2015 10: 25
      0
      Quote: onix757
      All those who are depicted in the picture are a product of power, created for horror stories and distraction. Extra-power is fed by our power for use as a lightning rod.

      And feeds through the US Embassy? They seem to run there.
      1. onix757
        onix757 12 December 2015 10: 46
        +2
        So the Kremlin is better, part of the costs of the embassy shifted smile
      2. vic58
        vic58 12 December 2015 11: 07
        +1
        And this is a plus to the special services) You do not flush banknotes into the toilet!
    2. Tatarus
      Tatarus 12 December 2015 10: 27
      +3
      Quote: onix757
      Extra-power is fed by our power for use as a lightning rod.


      Even if this is so (which is very doubtful), then from the point of view of power, it is quite logical. Prevent the opposition from appearing by flooding the political field with "oppositionists". Replace liberalism with "liberals". How is it there? "if you can't win - take the lead"?
      1. onix757
        onix757 12 December 2015 11: 05
        +3
        Quote: Tatarus
        "if you can't win - lead

        Sounds like surrender. Of course, it is much easier for the 5th column to receive cookies from the 6th (which is in power) than to equip the country.
  • vmo
    vmo 12 December 2015 10: 24
    0
    All this riffraff, lived well when, "enriched" and the extra payment was from the puppeteers!
    Here’s the fifth column. And when all this riffraff was in power, what benefit did they bring to the country?bully
  • andrysha61
    andrysha61 12 December 2015 10: 26
    -4
    Here you insanity is raging to the fullest! You’re blocked by borders, there’s only one opinion - the correct one (from VV);
    1. Homo
      Homo 12 December 2015 12: 15
      0
      Judging by the flag you are "our". And somehow you separate yourself from us.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 12 December 2015 10: 31
    +2
    This gave rise to our tolerant attitude towards liberals,
    and more serious punishments should be applied to them,
    as befits to the traitors of his country.
  • Million
    Million 12 December 2015 10: 33
    +2
    More and more often I think that 37 was not a year of repression, but purgatory
  • Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 12 December 2015 10: 36
    +1
    well written! LAKMUSOVO! IMMEDIATELY by the reaction of all it is visible))))
  • onix757
    onix757 12 December 2015 10: 38
    0
    That's how they are somehow friends
    1. Homo
      Homo 12 December 2015 12: 18
      +1
      Quote: onix757
      That's how they are somehow friends

      And YOU think that officials should, when meeting with liberals (pro-Western), immediately hit the face? If our President meets with the President of the United States, smiles and negotiates, then why can't our officials and politicians meet with the "opposition."
      1. onix757
        onix757 12 December 2015 12: 48
        0
        Quote: Homo
        Do you think that officials should, when meeting with liberals (pro-Western), hit the face right away?

        No, I believe that government officials do not have the right to meet with liberals, since they advocate the overthrow of power in any way. And even more so to meet in DR with one of the famous liberals. Are you against the overthrow of power?
  • onix757
    onix757 12 December 2015 10: 40
    0
    And also like that ..
  • Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 12 December 2015 10: 40
    +4
    Mikhail Khodorkovsky:
    "Got badly. And so they screwed us about success in Antalya! Now look for pilots,"

    Chkalov, as they say, got there. And Hodor seems to be add ... Xia. The summons was brought. The case is sewn. And not funny. I’m wondering if, before speaking, before speaking, well, purely hypothetically, he didn’t consider such a situation that some thread of a pilot from a lost (broken; flew where it should not) British "Tornado", participating in the anti-terrorist campaign, will fall into the hands of the bloody Assad. And, in response to the request of the British crown to assist in the release of the loyal subject, the Russian side may demand his (Hodor's) immediate extradition. And after a couple of high-profile publications in the Times on the topic: who is more valuable to Britain, under pressure from the public, Her Majesty's faithful servants will beautifully pack their valuable cargo and send their friend Vladimir the first morning horse. And then, looking through the bars at the most humane and fair judges in the world, "... Having made honest eyes, the Russian oppositionist will stop lying and betraying ...".
    No, well, I don’t understand, they gave you a chance. Let go to mom. Sit upright and do not shine. Why try fate?
    1. cap
      cap 12 December 2015 11: 13
      0
      I completely agreed with you, and then thought, and decided that a living hostage (pilot) is better than a mister sent a cargo of 200, who received an extensive heart attack (hanging on a scarf).
    2. cap
      cap 12 December 2015 12: 47
      +1
      "... Having made honest eyes, the Russian oppositionist will stop lying and betraying ..."
      No, well, I don’t understand, they gave you a chance. Let go to mom. Sit upright and do not shine. Why try fate?
      Abroad, the traitor was required to continue the banquet, we have what we have laughing .
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 12 December 2015 13: 18
        +1
        Quote: cap
        Abroad, the traitor was required to continue the banquet, we have what we have


        Most likely it is. And I would very much like to see in the near future the second part of the "Marlezon ballet" about the extradition and demonstrative landing of our talkative one. The rest for edification.
  • knn54
    knn54 12 December 2015 10: 45
    +2
    LiberaSTy will destroy Russia-Dostoevsky Today
  • Foxbed
    Foxbed 12 December 2015 10: 46
    +6
    Quote: FiremamRescueS
    Spit on the cons. I can’t say that GDP is sweet, but there is no real alternative in the country. Therefore, I am for Putin.

    And list, my friend, presidents and general secretaries over the past, say, 100 years - who can even remotely compete with Putin in terms of the trust rating of Russians. In terms of foreign policy authority. His public speeches are sorted into quotes. Even in a tete-a-tete polemic He is afraid of such heavyweights as Obamych (considered an excellent speaker) Cameron, Merkel, etc. Every time our president speaks abroad, there is only one sense of pride that now such a person represents the face of Russia. Yes, not everything is smooth inside the country. They just steal a polar fox. But, ask yourself a question: what have I done to resist this? "I do not take bribes." "I do not give and do not take kickbacks." "I never deceive people." decent and honest. ”“ I am law-abiding. ”“ I comply with traffic regulations. ”“ I love work and do everything with high quality. ”“ I love my homeland and am ready to give my life for it. ”- Will you answer“ yes ”to many of the theses? If you want to change the world, start with YOURSELF! wink
    1. onix757
      onix757 12 December 2015 10: 55
      +4
      Quote: Foxbed
      And list, my friend, presidents and general secretaries for the last, say, 100 years-who can even remotely compete with Putin in the rating of confidence of Russians

      ___________
      The funeral of Stalin
      1. 416494
        416494 12 December 2015 12: 35
        +1
        Yes, but this is a funeral, and admirers and not admirers come to the funeral.
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    2. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 12 December 2015 11: 31
      +6
      Quote: Foxbed
      Each time our president speaks abroad, there is only one feeling of pride that now such a person represents the face of Russia


      Vitaly! hi I fully share your point of view. Now it's a pleasure to listen to the president. Especially when he speaks without a piece of paper. I remember that disgusting feeling of my own inferiority, when the previous president (without the prefix "shit" you can't mention) told stories from the DTV screen "about 38 snipers", about "friend Bill", etc. There is something to compare.

      Quote: Foxbed
      Yes, inside the country, everything is not going smoothly. Theft is just a fox.


      Here, too, I agree. I myself have a number of questions-claims to the country's leadership. But, according to my assumptions, finding the GDP at the helm of the country is also a compromise between someone and someone. I fully admit that starting from the moment of ascension to the throne, cutting off heads, ripping off shoulder straps, making demonstrative "landings", and other abrupt movements, we would have had John F. Kennedy No. 2 and another "seven-boyarshina".
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    4. creak
      creak 12 December 2015 11: 43
      +2
      Quote: Foxbed
      And list, my friend, presidents and general secretaries for the last, say, 100 years, who can even remotely compete with Putin in the rating of confidence of Russians. By the level of foreign policy authority


      As for the general secretaries, at that time there were no Russians, but there was, as then, a new historical community - Soviet people.
      And now on business - I remember very well, for example, "Historical reports of Secretary General Brezhnev at the next Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Congress of the CPSU ... Reports and all speeches were accompanied by" stormy, prolonged applause, turning into a standing ovation "...
      And the phrase "and personally Leonid Ilyich" was not forgotten, about what colossal authority the Secretary General enjoys not only in the country, but also among all progressive mankind ... His works are published in unprecedented circulations not only in the USSR, in the countries of the socialist camp and capitalist countries.
      We were told about this every day on TV, radio and newspapers, at political classes, I think it’s not worth continuing ...
      In a word, spring has passed, summer has come, thanks Brezhnev for this ...
      What did they say about Brezhnev after his death, those who
      during his lifetime he sang praises to him, it is well known ...
      Yes, and Yeltsin, the people who literally brought him into power in their arms, two years later, foaming at the mouth, shouted "Yeltsin's gang on trial" ...
      So the ratings are a changeable value, - as the poet said: "They will either raise him high, or they will throw him into the abyss without shame ..."
      1. onix757
        onix757 12 December 2015 11: 57
        +1
        And now on business - I remember very well, for example, "Historical reports of Secretary General Brezhnev at the next Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Congress of the CPSU ... Reports and all speeches were accompanied by" stormy, prolonged applause, turning into a standing ovation "...

        The Soviet people had an advantage, they did not need to think about whether they would accept a child in the home care or not, and if so, how much and how much it would cost a month and then down the chain ending with unemployment and taxes. People did not think about the number of tanks, because they already knew about the country's indestructible power and ability to surprise the world in the field of aviation and astronautics. Well, apparently I wanted more, I'm tired of the congresses, get a sign.
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        2. creak
          creak 12 December 2015 12: 24
          +2
          Quote: onix757
          Well, apparently I wanted more, I'm tired of the congresses, get a sign.


          I do not want to discuss this topic, but I would only like to note that the congresses themselves were not tired, but the difference between what was declared at these congresses and reality ..
          Since this reality was part of my life, and although I’m far from young, I don’t suffer from memory failures ... Therefore, I don’t have to draw idyllic pictures - if that were so, then as you noticed, people would not want more .. .
          1. onix757
            onix757 12 December 2015 12: 29
            0
            and the difference between what was declared at these congresses and reality ..

            The difference is that the socialist system itself, as an ideology, is very philanthropic and all congresses took place in this vein (it was the norm to invite a milkmaid, a worker). Today people are openly told from all stands about their insignificant status, the destiny of which is to tighten their belts and not speak. Is this easier for you?
            1. creak
              creak 12 December 2015 14: 19
              0
              And what has changed in the country from the fact that the milkmaid was at the congress? What really influenced the decision-making of the CPSU Central Committee? Do not make me funny, as they say in Odessa ...
              You are familiar, I hope, the expression "wedding general" is from the same opera ... All decisions were prepared and made by completely different people and in a different place ... -

              Quote: onix757

              Today people are openly told from all stands about their insignificant status, the destiny of which is to tighten their belts and not speak


              By the way, not more than yesterday Putin handed over state awards and military incentives in the Kremlin. as they say, simple workers who were also invited there.
              So, from this highest rostrum, I didn’t hear anything like that from Putin’s mouth, except for praise to them ...
              Maybe in the Kremlin there is another tribune with which ordinary people are openly told about their miserable status - do not tell me where this tribune (s) are ... what
              1. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 12 December 2015 22: 22
                0
                Quote: ranger
                By the way, not more than yesterday Putin handed over state awards and military incentives in the Kremlin. as they say, simple workers who were also invited there.

                Have not seen. Have any of the truckers been awarded? Or does the Interior Ministry "reward" them?
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 12 December 2015 11: 04
    +4
    Lord, as you listen to the liberal / s / t / o / v, it starts to vomit ... sad
    If you "listen" to them, then Russia YOU ARE THE ONE TO BLAME, in that striped and blue-starred, "I WANT TO EAT", and they are ready for a ruble, to sell the "starving", their homeland, Russia.
    It seems to me that such "virtues" should be deprived of citizenship, and there, there ... - to the "feeding hand". am
    1. cap
      cap 12 December 2015 12: 00
      +1
      I didn’t understand ... but how about "doing good for the Motherland."
      Magadan gold placer simply asks for clever heads and strong hands of "real patriots" laughing .
  • fire44
    fire44 12 December 2015 11: 06
    +4
    Actually, the real traitors sitting in the Kremlin are those who seem to support the president, but are quietly preparing a coup (almost the entire government with the Central Bank along with the prime minister can be ranked there). And in the article - this is a riffraff, a background that distracts from the main traitors.
  • kvarfax
    kvarfax 12 December 2015 11: 08
    +4
    Liberals are certainly needed ... that's just why? Is it just so that the authorities do not relax)) But it does not seem to be very relaxed. Our country already has enough troubles and misfortunes. The saddest thing is that they (the liberals) cannot offer normal solutions and answer the question properly, except "bend over and have fun." I don't know about the others. I don't want that. I want to live in a country that I can be proud of. After all, this is my country, and in any other country, I will be "superfluous".
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 12 December 2015 11: 26
    +2
    kvarfax RU ... The saddest thing is that they (liberals) cannot offer normal solutions and answer the question as it should, except "bend over and have fun".

    So they, (the liberals), in the 90s already "hurried" - the USSR collapsed. Now they are "fussing", prompted by "benefactors" from across the ocean, doing everything to destroy Russia. So these "patriots" must either be driven from the country, or, trace all their income from abroad and communications, and if funding is found subversion, to plant for long periods, preferably associated with hard physical labor, and let the "human rights activists", in fact, be the same "liberals", even if they tear their throats about allegedly "political" ... angry
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 12 December 2015 11: 56
      +3
      Quote: ia-ai00

      So they (the liberals), in the 90s, already "hurried in advance" - the USSR collapsed.

      Yesterday I watched "Hipsters", an openly anti-Soviet film. But, I finished it.
      Quote: ia-ai00
      So these "patriots" need ...

      So we will have no politicians, no artists, no television. wink
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 12 December 2015 14: 06
        0
        Will stay! There 50x50! Here to deport 50%, and everything will be fine! yes
        1. Prophetic
          Prophetic 15 December 2015 00: 14
          0
          Do not deport, but send to your historical homeland laughing
  • MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 11: 35
    +2
    Quote: kvarfax
    Liberals are certainly needed ... but why?

    They get in touch on Monday morning! wassat Now they are afraid!
  • onix757
    onix757 12 December 2015 11: 36
    +2
    Quote: Foxbed
    compete with Putin on the rating of confidence Russians

    It is necessary to hold a referendum on trust and everything will fall into place
  • tumen
    tumen 12 December 2015 11: 40
    -8
    And what are you so worried about? The Soviet Union fell apart well? Ah, the liberals ruined such an empire. Or maybe the empire was not viable.
    1. Homo
      Homo 12 December 2015 12: 21
      +5
      Quote: tumen
      And what are you so worried about? The Soviet Union fell apart well? Ah, the liberals ruined such an empire. Or maybe the empire was not viable.

      Seeing your flag, you can forgive you for not knowing the difference between the meanings of the words "collapsed" and "destroyed". hi
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 14: 18
      0
      Quote: tumen
      And what are you so worried about? The Soviet Union fell apart well? Ah, the liberals ruined such an empire. Or maybe the empire was not viable.

      Here is one appeared .... laughing
      1. tumen
        tumen 12 December 2015 14: 28
        0
        How do you know who I am a liberal or a radical?
        1. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 15: 15
          0
          Quote: tumen
          How do you know who I am a liberal or a radical?

          We have such a flair in Russia! hi That's just intuition .... bully
          1. tumen
            tumen 12 December 2015 15: 33
            0
            You may have it in Russia. But, I live in the steppes of Transbaikalia where my ancestors lived and live. And what’s happening in your central part to me is waist-high.
  • Bjorn
    Bjorn 12 December 2015 11: 51
    +4
    So that your liberals do not speak there, but Russia is lucky with the president.
    For Russia, a weak ruler is a tragedy, two weak ones in a row are a disaster.
    If the third were liberal, the country would no longer exist.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 December 2015 13: 33
      -1
      How do you count? Gorbachev, President of the USSR. Yeltsin is number one. Putin is the second and fourth. Medvedev is the third.
      1. Bjorn
        Bjorn 12 December 2015 16: 59
        0
        Russia is officially the successor of the Union and I think you understand what I wanted to say. Of course, Gobrachev first, Yeltsin second. But in the history of Russia there were other examples, if so offhand then Nicholas II and Kerensky. One country still maintains, on the second begins to crumble and if then strong power does not come, then the Time of Troubles sets in.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 December 2015 12: 02
    +2
    Look what I found on Comte. The article is just for HE about weapons, but just about the fact that the authorities are not patriots of Russia.
    Let's see what examples of promising Russian weapons are mentioned on the Internet most often. This is an extra-heavy missile, a strategic bomber, a heavy missile cruiser and a new assault tank. We ask ourselves, to what technological structure does all this impressive military equipment belong? Obviously, to the one that determined the development of the economy and the armed forces until the 1970s. But now the time for tanks has already passed. None of the large countries, except Russia, are developing new tank platforms. Against this background, it becomes clear why foreign experts so often praise our military developments.
  • capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 12 December 2015 12: 13
    +6
    Opposition in Russia is similar to phosphor mushrooms.
    It is powered by an invisible mycelium network, but their brightness depends on the lighting.
    In our case, from references to the media.
    Do not mention the opposition - and it will not be.
  • iouris
    iouris 12 December 2015 12: 24
    +2
    This is not "opposition" but "proposition". The media are owned by oligarchs. Oligarchs are henchmen of transnational financial institutions.
  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 12 December 2015 12: 24
    +1
    Quote: capitosha1rang
    Opposition in Russia is similar to phosphor mushrooms.


    Tell me what you eat and I will say who you are (treats) laughing
  • MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 12: 28
    +4
    Quote: capitosha1rang
    Opposition in Russia is similar to phosphor mushrooms.
    It is powered by an invisible mycelium network, but their brightness depends on the lighting.
    In our case, from references to the media.
    Do not mention the opposition - and it will not be.

    Great saying ...! hi Now I’m from the heart! Thank you ..!
  • gingerbread man 59
    gingerbread man 59 12 December 2015 12: 29
    +5
    I’d just ask for the fifth column to rise from Joseph Stalin’s grave, he would quickly turn the bosh. and our president is playing with them they are the people to overthrow with arms in their hands call to overthrow the government. and we tell them oh you little rascals so it’s impossible. They should not be strangled in the physical sense but in the moral ...... some people need physically
  • cap
    cap 12 December 2015 13: 24
    +1
    Strongly disagree with you Mr. gingerbread man 59!
    How do you shoot such specialists?
    Look. Honest, selfless, anti-corruption fighter,
    In 1999 he entered the Faculty of Finance and Credit at the Finance Academy under the Government of the Russian Federation (majoring in Securities and Exchange Business), which he graduated in 2001. A lawyer with higher education, in 1998 graduated from the Law Faculty of the Peoples' Friendship University of Russia.
    In 2010, on the recommendation of Garry Kasparov, Evgenia Albats, Sergey Guriev and Oleg Tsyvinsky, he underwent six-month training at Yale University under the Yale World Fellows program.
    Alexey Navalny. It is suitable for working on an independent precious metals accounting site. Beyond the Arctic Circle laughing
    As many as two states spent on training. Think about economic feasibility. Think bigger. laughing
    1. iouris
      iouris 12 December 2015 13: 41
      +1
      If you think even bigger, it is still unknown who - whom. And the cost of mined precious metals needs to be reduced, I agree.
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 12 December 2015 13: 57
    +3
    Let's throw Khodorkovsky on a golden ice ax .....
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 12 December 2015 14: 23
      +3
      Not Khodorkovsky, but FOR Khodorkovsky ... laughing
      I would have made the same "contribution"! May God forgive me ... crying
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 14: 45
      +2
      Quote: 72jora72
      Let's throw Khodorkovsky on a golden ice ax .....

      We have many such "bookmarks" inside the country ... Hodor sings! And he gives a signal to everyone .... As the saying goes "Oh Wei ..." hi
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 12 December 2015 14: 10
    +1
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    But is it necessary to check, if it is already clear that the liberal riffraffers have increased many times! This is visible on our website in relation to visitors to Putin.

    You are very distorted. No need to equalize criticism of the president. I bow to him for raising the military-industrial complex and the prestige of Russia on the world stage, but there is still no domestic politics, as I understand, it is most likely that it can’t cope with the meritors in the government, but time is running out, and the situation is mildly tense around Russia , and God knows how they will lead in the event of a serious mess.
  • pomor23
    pomor23 12 December 2015 14: 19
    +2
    Liberals in Russia are dirt and mold, and they manage mold and dirt through general cleaning!
  • pomor23
    pomor23 12 December 2015 14: 21
    +3
    Liberals in Russia are dirt and mold, but they manage mold and dirt through general cleaning! All for spring cleaning !!!
  • gg.na
    gg.na 12 December 2015 14: 26
    +3
    In the batch went on the site !!! belay belay belay I’m not going to enter into disputes. winked ! Personally, I will write an answer for myself. I fully support Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin! It can be said in one that solves problems and problems both external and internal. And it solves them quite effectively (in my opinion) since in one many things you just don’t have time to do everything everywhere and everywhere. But our president is doing his best! I generally think that probably no one else could do more! yes There are liberal five-column theoreticians who are eager for power and flatter themselves with the idea that they would have taken power in their own hands and would have turned around and solved all issues, problems and difficulties much faster and better! (for your loved ones lol they would have arranged and done everything) So, as for me personally, I will support only Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin! And so that whoever does not scream (against Putin), whoever speaks (and they try to discredit Vladimir Putin in every way ) no matter how they tried to convince me otherwise wassat I guarantee that no one has anything No. come out !!! Let everything go not so fast ... So we do not live in a fairy tale! And the rush is needed when catching fleas and diarrhea! And in such a matter as governing the country, thoughtful and balanced decisions are needed! If you make hasty decisions guided by emotions, then you can break down firewood so that later descendants will remember such decisions that were made in emotions !!! So, slowly, slowly, we will go our course and think with our own head without imposed extraneous thoughts!
  • MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 14: 35
    +4
    Well they worked in Russia in 90 = x! And now they are silently sitting in government and business structures .. Wait! Smart and tricky now! That's even on the site .... hi We would be called dlami and Uralkami ....
  • Support
    Support 12 December 2015 14: 36
    +1
    Liberalists are dirt, mold, and canine vomit. But they cannot be removed - then it will be necessary to calculate new ones, determine them, etc. Let these stink - but we know how and what to expect from them ....
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 15: 22
      0
      Quote: Prop
      Liberalists are dirt, mold, and canine vomit. But they cannot be removed - then it will be necessary to calculate new ones, determine them, etc. Let these stink - but we know how and what to expect from them ....

      We do it! Friends need to be kept close, and enemies even closer! hi