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The sneaky plan to create Kurdistan

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Paris and London make loud statements about Daesh and ethnic cleansing and terrorist acts committed by him. However, they secretly prepare ethnic cleansing in the north of Syria in order to create a pseudo-Kurdistan on this territory, and also intend to bring Daesh closer to Al-Anbar and create Sunnitstan on their basis. Thierry Maysan analyzes this project and reveals numerous contradictions in the statements of officials.


The sneaky plan to create Kurdistan


Is the military intervention of France, Israel and the UK in Syria legal?

The 2249 [1] resolution adopted by the UN Security Council allows France, Israel and the UK to launch a new war in Syria and Iraq. According to the French side, which proposed the text of this resolution, this resolution, by virtue of Article 51 of the UN Charter, allows the coalition to carry out any actions, that is, “legal defense”. And British Prime Minister David Cameron believes that she allows "any actions" against this bloody satanic sect both in Syria and in Iraq [2].

However, according to experts of the research service at the library of the House of Commons, this is not the case. After a thorough legal analysis, Arabella Lang argues that this resolution does not allow the unrestricted use of force, it only calls upon those who have the legal right to redouble their efforts [3]. That is, only those states that are asked to intervene in Syria and Iraq can act.

Iraq was forced to send a letter to the General Secretariat and the UN Security Council stating that Daesh detachments were attacking it from Syrian territory, although the Islamic State itself was created in Iraq. After France and the United Kingdom - but not Israel - received an appeal from Iraq, they began to claim that they had the right to "legitimate collective defense." In addition, both of these states believe that they are attacked by Daesh from Syrian territory and therefore have the right to legitimate defense. However, these arguments are valid only if London and Paris provide evidence that these attacks are carried out directly from Syria, which is far from being the case [4].

That is, the military intervention of France, Israel and Great Britain into Syria without the consent of the government of the Syrian Arab Republic is illegal.

It should be noted that the UN Charter and the relevant General Assembly resolutions formally prohibit military support to non-state formations attempting to overthrow the power in the UN member states. Therefore, France and the United Kingdom declare their support for the armed forces in Syria only defensive weapons. However, these formations receive a significant amount of offensive weapons (rifles, mortars, ATGMs and MANPADS, and even combat agents). In August, French President Francois Hollande admitted to 2014 in an interview with the Monde newspaper that France had sent offensive weapons to the Syrian rebels [5]. And in an interview with journalist Xavier Panon, he adds that since 2012 [6] supplied 20-mm cannons, machine guns, grenade launchers and anti-tank shells, which violates international law and puts France on a par with gangster states [7].

Sneaky plan of France, Israel and the UK

Beginning with November 20, France is trying to create another coalition to fight Daesh, and more specifically to capture Raqqa. This rhetoric, which is an attempt to convince the French that the government intends to respond to the November 13 attacks in Paris, does not conceal the colonial aspirations of President Hollande. In fact, to free Raqqa from Daesh, but with what kind of ground forces and for what purpose?

Russian VKS support Syrian government forces, and according to French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, the Franco-British campaign could support the Free Syrian Army created in Libya by Al-Qaeda, the Sunni Arab forces (that is, the armed forces supported by the Turkish army) and Kurds (at the same time, the Syrian detachments of the people's self-defense of the YPG and the Peshmerga of the regional Kurdish Administration of Iraq)

If these forces succeed in capturing Rakka, the city will be ruled by the regional Kurdish Administration of Iraq, which will annex it. Kurdistan will be proclaimed in Syria and Iraq, the Syrian population living there will be expelled, and 10 millions of Turkish Kurds will be resettled in this new state.


In 2011, Mr. Alain Juppe from France and Ahmet Davutoglu from Turkey signed a secret agreement on the creation of Sunnistan in the territory of Iraq and Syria with the help of a terrorist organization (Daesh) and Kurdistan in the territory also belonging to these countries. This plan has been approved by Israel and the UK.

Juppe plan

In 2011, French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe and his Turkish counterpart Ahmet Davutoglu signed a secret treaty. We know that it included several mutual obligations, one of which is the “settlement of the Kurdish issue” without “violating the territorial integrity of Turkey,” that is, the creation of Kurdistan in Syria.

Convinced that Alain Juppe had a gollist, the French did not understand this maneuver in 2005. At that time, Alain Juppe was sentenced conditionally to 14 months in prison and one year of deprivation of voting rights for illegally financing his party from state funds. He left France and began teaching in Montreal. However, he was not often seen in Montreal due to the fact that he was undergoing secret training in third countries. Today, although he is a member of the opposition, he is one of the main instigators of the Middle East policy that President Hollande is pursuing despite history and the interests of France.

Kurdistan and Syria

The Kurds have lived for several centuries in the territory belonging to Turkey, Iraq and Iran. According to the 1962 census, 169000 Kurds lived in Syria, that is, an infinitesimal proportion of the total number of Kurds. During the civil war in Turkey in 1980-90, 2 a million Turkish Kurds fled to Syria. The idea of ​​France, Israel and Great Britain is not to create their own state in Turkey, but to colonize the country, which generously accepted them.

Syria has already been divided between France and the United Kingdom at a conference in Sanremo and in accordance with the Sykes-Picot agreement (1916). Historically, it included not only today's Syria, but also Palestine, Israel, Jordan, Sanjak Alexandretta (Turkish Antioch), and part of Iraq. The proposed plan provides for its further dismemberment.


The head of the Syrian Kurds Salih Muslim and Recep Tayyip Erdogan 31 October 2014 were at the reception of Francois Hollande. The three of them agreed on the establishment of Kurdistan in Syria, the expulsion of Sunnis and Christians and the relocation of Turkish Kurds there.

Who are the Kurds?

The Kurds represent a single culture, but speak different languages ​​- Kurmanji, Sorani and Pahlevi, to which should be added the fourth language, absolutely different from the three previous ones, Zaza Gora.

During the Cold War, the Kurds were divided into two groups. The first was supported by Israel and the USA, and the second by Syria and the USSR.

During the civil war in Turkey, the main party of Turkish Kurds of the Marxist-Leninist type of the PKK and its leader Abdullah Ocalan fought for the creation of an independent Kurdistan in Turkey. They emphasized that they had no territorial claims to Syria. Ocalan was accepted by Damascus as a political refugee, and from there he led military operations in Turkey. Hiding from the repression, 2 million Turkish Kurds found refuge in Syria. But in 1998, Ankara began to threaten Syria with war, if it continues to harbor the PKK. President Hafez Assad eventually demanded that Abdullah Ocalan move to another country, but continued to protect Kurdish refugees.

At the very beginning of the war against Syria, President Bashar al-Assad gave Syrian citizenship to many Kurds who had fled from Turkey. He contributed to the creation of local armed groups to participate in the defense of their territories. For the first two years, they collaborated with the Syrian security forces, but with 2014, the situation gradually deteriorated.

31 October 2014, immediately after the Koban massacre, Salih Muslim, head of the Kurdish Democratic Union in Syria, was received by Francois Hollande along with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The two heads of state, who so far refused to help the Syrian Kurds, convinced Salih Muslim that it was in his personal interest to renounce the obligations of the PKK and join their project.

A year later, Salih Muslim will launch an operation to enforce the introduction of the Kurdish language in northern Syria, which will arouse the indignation of the local population, mainly Assyrian Christians and Arab Sunnis [8].

But Salih Muslim will experience the greatest difficulties in mobilizing militants when France, Israel and the United Kingdom begin the operation to create Kurdistan in Syria. Young Kurds, hiding in Iraq, refused en masse to join this colonial project [9].

The second time Salih Muslim visited Paris 27 this November.

Turkey's destruction of the Russian Su-24

The strikes of the Russian VKS, launched by 1 on October 2015, disrupted the plans of the colonial powers. For President Erdogan, they put off the implementation of the Juppe plan and his dream of cleansing Turkey. Therefore, he ordered his Armed Forces to prepare an incident with a Russian plane, which the foreteller Fuat Avni had warned about at the time.

16 November Russia intensified air strikes against terrorist groups in Syria and dealt a political blow to their sources of funding. President Vladimir Putin caused a stir among the G20 in Antalya, although he did not give the name of Recep Tayyip Erdogan who chaired the meeting. He presented to the diplomats who were present satellite images of truck convoys heading from Syria to Turkish ports, and condemned the connivance of those who allow Daesh to receive billions of dollars from the illegal oil trade [10].

Reassessing Washington’s support, or not properly appreciating the Russian force, President Erdogan orders the 24 to be shot down in November by a Russian bomber who allegedly entered the Turkish territory [17] for 11 seconds. Moscow quickly responded to this incident by imposing tough economic sanctions against Turkey, provided airborne incident radar data refuting Turkey’s allegations of violation of its airspace [12], deployed C-400 in Syria, and Russian General Headquarters in December 2 presented satellite evidence of Turkish involvement in financing Daesh [13].

The international media, which denied the truth the whole year, suddenly scattered in accusations at the autocrat from Ankara and his family.


29 November 2015 The European Union spread a red carpet in front of Turkey. He again raised the issue of accession negotiations, abolition of visas, as well as granting 3 billions of euros to Turkey (Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, Chairman of the Council Donald Tusk and Commission Chairman Jean-Claude Juncker).

On November 29, the European Union organized a special summit with the participation of Turkey. Ignoring Vladimir Putin’s statements at the G20 summit in Antalya and the reports (unpublished) by High Representative Federica Mogherini, indicating that Daesh oil flows to the EU through Cyprus, Italy and France, the participants concluded: “Given the final declaration of the last G20 summit held in Antalya , and Security Council resolution 2249 (2015), Turkey and the European Union confirm that the fight against terrorism remains a priority ”(sic) [14].

In pursuance of 2011’s Juppe plan, negotiations on Turkey’s accession to the EU continued, the visa regime is at the cancellation stage and, as the cherry on the cake, the Union commits Turkey to allocating a billion euro 3 ostensibly to assist in resolving the issue with Syrian refugees.

The French Parliament [15] and the British House of Commons [16], convinced that the 2249 resolution allows them to intervene in Syria without the consent of Damascus, gave permission to the executive to intervene in the country. The aim of the air strikes was announced Daesh. During the discussions, none of the chambers raised the issue of creating Kurdistan.

Contrary to the statements made in the media, no one has changed his policy regarding Daesh. The terrorist organization continues to be supported by those who created it (American politicians with David Petraeus and John Negroponte, the governments of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey). Only Iraqi Shiites, the Lebanese Hezbollah, the Syrian government army and Russia continue to fight against it. The operations of the American coalition were not aimed at eradicating Daesh, but only at restraining it. And today the game consists in “liberating” the north of Syria and settling this territory with Iraqi Kurds, driving Daesh to Iran, where he was allocated the Al-Anbar region. The only thing that has changed after the Russian intervention is that the West does not insist that Daesh occupy the Syrian desert.

Conclusion

- France and the UK have inspired public opinion that the 2249 resolution allows them to intervene in Syria to fight Daesh. This allowed the parliaments to obtain permits for air strikes without the consent of Syria.

- In ground operations, they are counting on the support of the armed groups of the Turkomans (supported by the Turkish army) and the Kurdish units of the YPG people's self-defense (supported by the regional Kurdish Administration of Iraq and Israel).

“The goal of this intervention is not to eradicate Daesh, but to oust him to Al-Anbar, conduct ethnic cleansing this time in northern Syria and create a new state of Kurdistan there.

[1] “Résolution 2249”, Réseau Voltaire, 20 November 2015.
[2] “United Nations Security Council Resolution”, 10, Downing Street, November 20 2015
[3] “Legal basis for UK military action in Syria”, Arabella Lang, Voltaire Network, November 26 2015.
[4] “La Résolution 2249 n'autorise pas à bombarder en Syrie”, Nicolas Boeglin, Réseau Voltaire, 1 December 2015.
[5] “François Hollande confirms avoir livré des armes aux rebelles en Syrie”, Le Monde, 20 August 2014.
[6] Recall also that Nicolas Sarkozy also supplied heavy weapons to 2011, in particular Milan installations, that he never publicly acknowledged this.
[7] Dans les coulisses de la diplomatie française, Xavier Panon, L'Archipel, 13 May 2015
[8] "Les États-Unis et Israël débutent la colonization du Nord de la Syrie", Réseau Voltaire, 1 November 2015
[9] “Le YPG proclame la conscription obligatoire des réfugiés kurdes syriens”, Réseau Voltaire, 24 November 2015.
[10] “Vladimir Putin’s Response to Journalists questions the following G20 summit”, Vladimir Putin, Voltaire Network, November 16 2015
[11] “Why did Turkey hit a Russian bomber? , Thierry Meyssan, Translation by Eduard Feoktistov, Voltaire Network, 30 November 2015.
[12] “Les enregistrements radars de l'attaque turque contre l'avion russe”, Valentin Vasilescu, translation Avik, Réseau Voltaire, 29 November 2015
[13] “La Russie expose les preuves du trafic de pétrole de Daesh via la Turquie”, Valentin Vasilescu, translation Avik, Réseau Voltaire, 3 December 2015
[14] Déclaration UE-Turquie, Réseau Voltaire, 29 Nov. 2015
[15] "Débat à l'Assemblée nationale française sur l'engagement militaire en Syrie", "Débat au Sénat français sur l'engagement militaire en Syrie", Réseau Voltaire, 25 November 2015
[16] “UK House of Commmons Motion on ISIL in Syria”, Voltaire Network, December 2 2015
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  1. cniza
    cniza 9 December 2015 12: 45 New
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    The knot is tied yet and who said that the Kurds are united? this is far from the case, even the languages ​​are different, in general they stir up the saucy farther.
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    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 9 December 2015 12: 55 New
      10
      But doesn’t the lip crack in frogmen with a room mattress poodle? You see, especially the rag olland tries the victim of the terrorist attack.
  2. izya top
    izya top 9 December 2015 12: 47 New
    +2
    no, Kurdish autonomy will most likely be. provided that a piece of territory is torn away from the Turetchyna (we will not take Syria into account request ) .but these rulers of the world (civilizators-tridvarasy) are already fed up am the cheek will crack and the lips will be covered with slate
    1. WKS
      WKS 9 December 2015 13: 37 New
      -2
      In Syria and Iraq, Kurdistan will be proclaimed, the Syrian population living there will be expelled, and 10 million Turkish Kurds will be resettled in this new state.

      10 million can only be resettled by force, and this is genocide. Turks against any Kurdistan in any territory. They will declare war on any Kurdish state right there.
  3. The black
    The black 9 December 2015 12: 50 New
    +5
    In one of the notes, I already wrote that Kurdistan is a US project. Its implementation began even before the destruction of Saddam. And the fact that the Kurds are NOT our friends is a fact. It was just that at some point our interests coincided. What will the comrades who were proposing to arm the Kurds say now? winked
  4. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 9 December 2015 12: 52 New
    +7
    It would be more reasonable to arrange the statehood of the Kurds in Turkey as a well-deserved "reward" in the fight against the Kurds themselves.
    pisi:
    In France, perhaps the same may appear independent states of immigrants from the Middle East and the northern coast of Africa ...
  5. Barakuda
    Barakuda 9 December 2015 12: 53 New
    +5
    East, Christmas tree sticks! You can turn the brain inside out while you understand the intricacies of the local politics. what If the west did not poke its snout there, it would be much more understandable and simpler.
  6. baku1999
    baku1999 9 December 2015 12: 55 New
    +6
    Divide and conquer .............. everything is like a proverb: both the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe. The question is, why ?????????? the answer is simple: the wolves ate a shepherd ................
  7. GOGY
    GOGY 9 December 2015 13: 03 New
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    Quote: eugeniy.369
    The Turks are more likely to strangle themselves than allow the creation of a Kurdish state, especially at their side.

    Here is a good thought! Help the "comrades"? drinks I applaud, dear! hi
  8. Prutkov
    Prutkov 9 December 2015 13: 07 New
    +4
    Now in Syria, the same thing happens as at the end of the Second World War. “Soyuznichki” will try by all means to “free” the maximum possible territory. And the fact of the partition of Syria and Iraq has already taken place. And we cannot influence this. The forces are too unequal. True, I do not think that Turkey is much "relieved" from the forcible resettlement of the Kurds.
    PS In the light of the events described, Biden’s statements about the “federalization of Ukraine” in Kiev look completely different.
  9. gla172
    gla172 9 December 2015 13: 09 New
    +2
    Let them create what they want on the territory of Israel ......
    This is logical ....
  10. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 9 December 2015 13: 10 New
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    Well, if the GDP is "FOR" then what. Let them create. wassat But the Turks will definitely not like it!
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 December 2015 13: 10 New
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    In 2011, French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe and his Turkish counterpart Ahmet Davutoglu signed a secret agreement

    Everything secret becomes apparent. At the moment, Russia’s allies in Syria and Iran are in BV, whose interests in the destruction of ISIS coincide. Time will dot all I.
  12. Same lech
    Same lech 9 December 2015 13: 12 New
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    The purpose of this intervention is not to root out Daesh, but to oust him in Al-Anbar, to conduct ethnic cleansing this time in northern Syria and create a new Kurdistan state there.

    And who will conduct the ethnic cleansing? .... I believe the Turks, they have a great experience in cleansing. Armenians still can’t forgive the Turks for this, and I, too, looking at the history of the Turkish empire of past years.


    In March 1915, in the vicinity of the city of Smyrna (now Izmir) and in the Black Sea region of Pont, the Young Turks carried out the massacre of the Greeks, who had been called up to the Turkish army shortly before. According to a German military attache, Minister of War Enver Pasha said in October 1915:

    “I would like to solve the Greek problem during the war ... in the same way that I seem to have solved the Armenian problem. "
    Subsequent ethnic cleansings against the Greek population of Turkey were actively carried out by Turkish nationalists under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal (Ataturk) during the Greek-Turkish war of 1919-1922 [2] [3]. It was May 19, 1919, the day of the landing of the troops of Kemal in Samsun and the beginning of the second wave of massacre, is celebrated as the day of the Genocide of the Pontic Greeks


    Erdogan is not much different from ENVER-PASCHI ... the same nationalist.
  13. Hello
    Hello 9 December 2015 13: 12 New
    +2
    Another article about vile Israel
    I really didn’t understand what Israel has to do with it. We are not, as it were, a coalition. But the message of the author is clear, you could not write an article.
    Sneaky plan of France, Israel and the UK

    That would be enough, otherwise I would have broken my brain by reading this horror, ethnic cleansing in Kurdistan to create Kurdistan. fellow
    From whom will it be cleaned? Apparently from the Chukchi wassat
    1. andj61
      andj61 9 December 2015 13: 58 New
      +5
      Quote: Hello
      I brain broke this horror of reading, ethnic cleansing in Kurdistan to create Kurdistan.
      From whom will it be cleaned? Apparently from the Chukchi

      Well, it clearly says: from Sunni Arabs and Assyrian Christians. And the Chukchi have nothing to do with it ... request
      The question is that the Syrian Kurds seem to support the PKK, unlike the Iraqi Kurds of Barzani, and therefore are the enemies of Turkey.
      And as for Israel ... Well, how not to drag. Without Jews, any conspiracy becomes bold. bully
    2. gla172
      gla172 9 December 2015 20: 10 New
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      Comrade! (Although I’m definitely not a comrade), you are a Nazi old man! CHUKCHA is the same person ... how can a person of your "chosen" (nation, race, as you prefer) say so .....
  14. Foxbed
    Foxbed 9 December 2015 13: 12 New
    +1
    While the Middle East is on fire, the states are in chocolate. Oil is getting cheaper. Too much smuggling and the Saudis are dumping. Everything is bad with us. That is how it remains, everything possible will be done so that the situation in the Middle East is far from stability.
  15. Riv
    Riv 9 December 2015 13: 12 New
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    I have a strong impression that members of the Western coalition do not really know what they want. Like a swan, cancer and a pike. Someone does not want the increased influence of the States in the region. Someone has elections nearby and we must wave to the electorate. Smuggling oil is beneficial for some and let the war go on forever.
    But Russia is like a bone in the throat for everyone.
  16. Lelek
    Lelek 9 December 2015 13: 18 New
    +2
    (Contrary to media statements, no one has changed their policy regarding Daesh. The terrorist organization continues to be supported by those who created it (American politicians with David Petraeus and John Negroponte, the governments of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey).)

    The actions of the Western "coalitioners" are predictable from the time of the Crusades - divide and conquer. Explosions still boom, people die, masses of refugees move, severed heads fall on the sand, and European and American bureaucrats begin their fuss over politics by sharing a pie called the Middle East. With a pencil stroke, they decide where and who will live, where and who will profess this or that faith, which of the nations is good and which is bad. All this - "deja vu" - was already there, only the circumstances of the aggravation were different.
    In this situation, in no case should Russia lose its positions and interests, since we really, not declaratively, "plowed".
  17. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 9 December 2015 13: 20 New
    +1
    The fact that the West is playing a game in Syria is obvious. Just what? A lot of assumptions will arise for a long time, although for certain the special services know everything and they conduct their campaign there! Of course, Russia will by all means defend the integrity of Syria. All other options are force majeure, which no one will voice. But they think about everything!
  18. BOB044
    BOB044 9 December 2015 13: 24 New
    +1
    Basher pulls the rubber with the Kurds and we should have started working with the Kurds long ago.
  19. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 9 December 2015 13: 38 New
    +4
    France, Israel and Great Britain allowed themselves to participate in the war in Syria.
    Excellent.
    Syria with the support of Russia has every right to prohibit them from appearing on its territory.
  20. trantor
    trantor 9 December 2015 13: 41 New
    +2
    .resolution 2249 allows they intervene in Syria to fight Daesh.

    So this is where the dog rummaged, otherwise he couldn’t understand what they were doing in Syria, or rather on what basis (albeit invented).
    This once again suggests that our diplomats need to fight even harder, literally, to death for formulations at the UN.
  21. potalevl
    potalevl 9 December 2015 14: 22 New
    +4
    If the creation of Kurdistan in Syria and Iraq is a blatant Saxon plan, then yes - a "very tricky plan." First, let's figure out what is Kurdistan? Kurdistan is a historically formed ethno-geographical territorial area of ​​compact Kurds, covering most of southeast Turkey (roughly about 45% of this region), a very small part of northeast Syria (3%), with a transition to northeast Iraq (35 %) and the west of Iran (17%), that is, most of Kurdistan falls on the territory of Turkey. Now imagine that the arrogant Saxons managed to realize their "cunning plan", but then the Kurds living in Turkey will need to be given independence or evicted to other regions, and at the same time not by peaceful means.
    And secondly, Russia is fighting ISIS, until the terrorists are completely destroyed and for maintaining the integrity of Syria and Iraq, for which a coalition was created with the participation of Iran, Iraq and Syria. Therefore, the task now is to support the Kurds in creating their own state in Turkey, because neither Iran nor Iraqi Kurds in their territories are pressed, like the Turks. Here's some sort of alignment.
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 9 December 2015 15: 10 New
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      Quote: potalevl
      And secondly, Russia is fighting ISIS, until the terrorists are completely destroyed and for maintaining the integrity of Syria and Iraq, for which a coalition was created with the participation of Iran, Iraq and Syria. Therefore, the task now is to support the Kurds in creating their own state in Turkey, because neither Iran nor Iraqi Kurds in their territories are pressed, like the Turks. Here's some sort of alignment.


      The Americans disagree ... Therefore, there are all sorts of plans to create Kurdistan opposed to ours
  22. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 9 December 2015 14: 45 New
    +2
    Something is somehow doubtful if the Turks would allow the state of Kurdistan to be formed on its borders. This would probably be the first step in the future towards the reunification of Turkish Kurds with the rest of this people. And imagine the consequences of this process in the country, a quarter of the population of which are people of this particular nation.
  23. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 9 December 2015 14: 57 New
    +2
    I think that work with the Kurds should be continued, especially with the part that was originally supported by the USSR and should be more actively. Biden in Kiev did not accidentally demand the implementation of the Minsk agreements by the junta and raised the question of decentralization of power in the Donbass - this is a kind of “carrot” for Russia. it will be probing the issue of the interaction of the coalition and the Russian Federation in Syria (by the way, Biden will soon meet with GDP), the Kurdish question will also be raised there (in the plan set out by the author of the article). In general, this is again a multi-way combination designed to influence actions Russia, to whitewash Turkey, again promise, declaratively, to beat YIDISH to utter defeat and create the Kurdish state (if it comes to that) at the expense of Syria, Iraq, (Iran?) - they want to deceive again!
  24. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 9 December 2015 15: 16 New
    +3
    They are trying to pull us very insistently into this fight - the main thing is not to go outside the territory of Syria, no matter who as if asks us about it.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 9 December 2015 16: 02 New
      +2
      If only there was no war. It’s necessary to beat the customer, not mongrels.
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  25. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 9 December 2015 15: 32 New
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    Quote: Dimon-chik-79
    Something is somehow doubtful if the Turks would allow the state of Kurdistan to be formed on its borders. This would probably be the first step in the future towards the reunification of Turkish Kurds with the rest of this people. And imagine the consequences of this process in the country, a quarter of the population of which are people of this particular nation.

    Maloli what kind of fantasies Erdogan may have. Everyone wants to influence everyone for their own benefit, and each side, apparently exposes itself as the most caring of chickens. Yes. Although our people did everything right!
  26. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 9 December 2015 16: 11 New
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    The Kurds have maintained their identity since the time of the Salladin Sultan. Almost biblical times. Salladin tried not to place the Kurds near the Turks in the halts. Shuffle and guard unnecessary trouble. They have conquered and are worthy of their state, Kurdistan! Historically proven. The Armenians in the pose of observers stood up and did not sound, although Ararat is theirs, as you do not listen in everyday life. Cypriots also have something to present to the Ottomans. Greeks too. They chanted something ....
  27. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 9 December 2015 16: 33 New
    +3
    Another Historical Fact. Salladin defeated the Crusaders and captured Aglitsky "Richard the Lionheart." No, he didn’t cut off his head, even in ..opu didn’t. Just let go ... under the "honest knightly" that he will send a ransom for his dissolute "lion" head. How many? And how much do not feel sorry for the King and how much he evaluates himself. The story is silent about the size of the ransom and whether it was paid at all. In England at that time they didn’t give a cent for his broken head. Salladin did not wait for anything-FACT from the arrogant Saxons.
    1. gla172
      gla172 9 December 2015 20: 32 New
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      Quote: chelovektapok
      Salladin didn’t wait for anything-FACT from the arrogant Saxons.

      So it will also be a little expensive ...
  28. Sirius-2
    Sirius-2 9 December 2015 20: 48 New
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    After reading the article, the thought arose: “Have the French special services set up all these terrorist attacks in order to have an excuse for intervention in Syria? Well, how are the Americans from September 11? protested. "