Kazakhstan refused to sell gas to Ukraine without coordination with Russia

Kazakhstan has officially refused to Ukraine for its requests to supply gas without coordination with the Russian side. Ukrainian information resource "Today" reports that the Deputy Minister of Energy of the Republic of Kazakhstan Magzum Mirzagaliyev made a statement on the appeal of Ukraine. His statement is as follows:

As for gas supplies to Ukraine, it must be understood that in order to supply gas to Ukraine, first of all, it is necessary to reach an agreement with Russia. To date, we have no such arrangements. We are selling gas today at the border with the Russian Federation, which satisfies us today.

Earlier, the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, Vladimir Demchishin, said that Kazakhstan could allegedly start supplying its gas to the territory of Ukraine. At the same time, the Ukrainian authorities stated that this “would reduce the dependence on Russian gas”. At the same time, official Kiev did not report on what routes gas from Kazakhstan should be in Ukraine “without coordination with Russia”, taking into account the geographical position of the two states.

Recall that before the end of the year the price of Russian gas for Ukraine is 227 dollars per 1 thousand cubic meters. In 2016, Ukraine, which has a huge debt to Gazprom, expects prices to drop to 207 dollars, and that Europe will sell gas to Kiev at 175 dollars, and this is taking into account the fact that Europe itself buys it from Russia more expensively than 220 ...

Meanwhile, Ukraine has signed a contract for the supply of coal from South Africa. The first ship from the Republic of South Africa arrived in Odessa the day before, and its unloading began. According to Mr. Demchishin, coal from South Africa costs the treasury of Ukraine 57 dollars per ton, which is about 30 dollars cheaper than last year's purchases of African fuel. This in the Ministry of Energy and Industry "Square" was called "a great success." Great success - coal purchases from a country located on the other side of the world? ..

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[scrap123]

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

[Sasha 19871987]

someone just doesn't have enough brains ... "I'll frostbite my ears for evil" I'd rather buy coal for half the world from Africa than from the damned neighbors ... the logic is reinforced concrete, or rather its absence ...

[vovanpain]

Quote: sasha 19871987

someone just lacks brains ... "I'll frostbite my ears to the evil granny" I'd rather buy coal for half the world from Africa than from the damned neighbors ... the logic is reinforced concrete, or rather its absence.

The brains have long been drenched in dill, the barmalei will send humanitarian aid to them. Here and let the poop be drowned. And the Kazakhs are good fellows to take dill from the rogue.

[cniza]

Quote: Sasha 19871987

someone just doesn't have enough brains ... "I'll frostbite my ears for evil" I'd rather buy coal for half the world from Africa than from the damned neighbors ... the logic is reinforced concrete, or rather its absence ...

For Ukraine, to put it mildly, it’s a nuisance, and now it’s not so much with a reverse.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: scrap123

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

It’s too early to lick Kazakhs.
It must be remembered that firstly, Kazakhstan is a member of the CSTO and a member of the EAEU. Which by itself implies and imposes a certain measure of responsibility on the Kazakhs, to act in the wake of a common policy.

But we Russians, have long been accustomed to the fact that our allies (for the most part) put a bolt on some problems that interest us. We solve all issues and problems of a geopolitical and military nature ourselves, and patiently treat the contacts of our allies with Western leaders. And when such handouts arise in the form of coordinating gas supplies, we perceive this as a gift from God. Although if we are allies - this should be the prose of the day (everyday life and everyday life).

PS
Look at the United States and its allies (albeit vassals).
What is the degree of interaction and solidarity. If they have some kind of problem, they all put up their connections (through the media, through the ministries of foreign affairs), and act as one.

What is going on with us? Either deathly silence, or they begin to mumble.

[Yeraz]

Quote: _Vladislav_

But we Russians, have long been accustomed to the fact that our allies (for the most part) put a bolt on some problems that interest us.

It is not a matter of what the Kazakhs do not want. And they simply cannot. Gas will have to go through the territory of the Russian Federation, without the consent of the Russian Federation it physically cannot get to Ukraine. And there are NO other ways to Ukraine!

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Yeraz

It is not a matter of what the Kazakhs do not want. And they simply cannot. Gas will have to go through the territory of the Russian Federation, without the consent of the Russian Federation it physically cannot get to Ukraine. And there are NO other ways to Ukraine!

Greetings

Maybe. But as regards specifically the allied aspects, there are many questions. Unfortunately.

[Yeraz]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Greetings

And you comrade

Quote: _Vladislav_

Maybe. But as regards specifically the allied aspects, there are many questions. Unfortunately.

There is no alliance. The media do not particularly advertise the trade wars of the CU countries among themselves.
In no conflict there was even ORAL support. And in the case of Turkey, not a few Kazakhs will be on the side of Turkey. You can not relieve the blood proximity of the Turkic peoples.

And if they build a pipeline through the Caspian, Kazakhstan will change its position even more.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Yeraz

You can not reset the blood proximity of the Turkic peoples.

And if they build a pipeline through the Caspian, Kazakhstan will change its position even more.

Vo-in, about that and speech.

And so Russia has to rely solely on its own strengths and capabilities. Perhaps the emergence of some kind of temporary like-minded people, the emergence of which is possible only due to a temporary coincidence of interests.

[Talgat]

Nonsense! What does it mean no alliance?

In fact, both Kazakhstan and Belarus are the closest allies of Russia, and even much closer than the allies - and related countries, related in ethnic composition, mentality, origin and history. Both republics form the core of Eurasian integration with Russia. CSTO - military alliance - bases - in Kazakhstan there are many Russian military bases Sarah Shagan, etc.

Syria and Iran are certainly geopolitical allies - but do you agree the Russians will unite and live with Iran in the Eurasian Union? All the same, there is a difference in mentality, and so on. With Belarus and Kazakhstan, unification is natural and should continue - the walking one will take the road and I'm sure no normal citizen of the Russian Federation will mind

And the fact that Belarusians and Kazakhstan do not bomb anyone in Syria - or are careful in statements - this is not at all an indicator of some kind of apostasy, etc.

It’s just that this is the situation in the world - all the foreign policy steps of the 3 republics are mutually agreed upon - this is unambiguous. So it’s necessary - it means tomorrow Kazakhstan will become the platform when you have to talk about something with the Turks - how Minsk has become a platform for talking with Europe - and maybe there is something else that we don’t know

[igor.borov775]

Hello!! Everything is correct but there is one subtlety. Kazakhstan is working closely with China in terms of gas supplies. There is almost no surplus. The second promising project in India. Another gas giant is also working on gas supplies to India. Ours are also working on this. India, a growing giant of space, is enough for everyone. And the second giant is Tehran. He already knows how the EU can spoil on any project, besides, he really used all his gas resources to the east. He is not in a hurry to develop new fields, a very unstable neighbor, although Turkey must strictly adhere to oil supplies to the ports. supplier scheduled Syria. It was the United States and its friends in the Middle East who wanted to take it under its control. Azerbaijan, too, does not yet have a large excess of gas, fulfills its contracts. Only Turkey and Ashgabat remain for Turkey. The fuss around the South Stream forced them to be wary of Turkey’s attempts to have something. But the Turks, as always, want to drag freebies and do not get ready to cook discounts. And with Ukraine, the pipe. We suffered the most. So many dibs went there without returning horror. This still comes back to us. There is a banking crisis that Gref was talking about. And you know, friends have practically nothing to discuss here. Freebies for Ukraine are ending. Probably like that

[veksha50]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Perhaps the emergence of some kind of temporary like-minded people, the emergence of which is possible only due to a temporary coincidence of interests.

Hmm .. Unfortunately, there are no such, even temporary allies and like-minded people in this region ... I mean the pipe and gas ...

[kuz363]

The closest to Ukraine from Kazakhstan to Russia is the Central Asia - Center gas pipeline. It was built during the USSR. By the way, it pumps Uzbek gas, not Kazakh gas. So Russia will not be able to get around.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Yeraz

.And there are NO other ways to Ukraine!

And what are the official paths for Afghan opium / heroin to Russia? also not, but somehow it leaks out

[BARKHAN]

Well, it's GAS !!! , but not opium. You can’t shove it into your pockets. Do not transport it with gas cylinders on donkeys ...

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Barkhan

Well, it's GAS !!! , not opium

After all, our oil after black somehow reaches the coast of Bulgaria, and then look for fistulas. There would be a desire and money, some people will not notice the smuggling here and there as usual in life.

[kuz363]

Oil and gas are different physical environments. If oil can be transported from Aktau by tanker to Baku, then through the pipeline to Batumi, then again to the tanker, then gas is more difficult. Batumi has oil berths owned by Kaztranoil. But gas needs a gas pipeline through the Caspian, which is not there. Or LNG carrier gas carriers with coastal infrastructure, which are also missing. And the extra transshipments crossing the borders of transit states only add the price of the final product to the buyer

[BARKHAN]

And if you dig under Russia ?! Great Ukrainians, judging by their history books, are also those diggers ... If they dug the Black Sea, then dig under Russia, like two fingers on asphalt ...

[unsinkable]

Quote: _Vladislav_

What is going on with us?

I agree with you. They: Pidrogan did business, but he wasn’t handed over, but his own. We: just look at Belarus, they are trying to capitalize on the difficulties for Russia. They zayulat to the fullest. Azerbaijan there too. But these though would not be the Slavs.

[gladcu2]

Vladislav

Russia, worked on the basis of contracts. And on mutual understanding. Mutual understanding is the starting point from the morality of collectivism.

Western values ​​exclude collective morality. Western values ​​are the moral of egoism. That would be where to steal or squeeze. Who to fuck. Western countries are connected by motives of fear and common crimes.

Well, you can object. What difference does it make to me, what are the motives if Western countries are progressing.

Firstly, they do not progress. Selfish Western morality is not creative it is consumer. Colonies, emigrant labor. Secondly, they only have to live exactly as long as the Russian Federation and the Allies allow them to live. Raw material component. Yes exactly. So far they are given time to realize and change. By the way, the Russian Federation for a long time retained the communist, collective morality, changed even in the late USSR, towards egoistic morality. But, GDP is working towards a return to basics. An improved model, I believe.

[esaull]

That's just bad when Russia treats allies with mutual understanding and they treat it with the morality of egoism

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: _Vladislav_

we perceive it as a gift of God. Although if we are allies - this should be the prose of the day (everyday life and everyday life).

PS
Look at the United States and its allies (albeit vassals).
What is the degree of interaction and solidarity. If they have some kind of problem, they all put up their connections (through the media, through the ministries of foreign affairs), and act as one.

You, dear, just do not see the difference. After all, the allies of the United States, why are they unanimous? from the fact that Uncle Sam is holding their eggs, and Kazakhstan does it voluntarily. This is the essence.

[O_s_c_a_R]

Do not lick anyone, it is not hygienic.
".. We are selling gas today on the border with the Russian Federation, today we are satisfied with it ..." - this is the key phrase of the article

[demo]

But we Russians, have long been accustomed to the fact that our allies (for the most part) put a bolt on some problems that interest us.

In fact, in Russian there is no verb "to lay down", there is a verb "to lay down".
But, if, of course, maybe in the context of a bolt?
Then yes!

[Ivan Ivanov]

I completely agree with you. Very correctly said. And because of such allies, we are already convinced that Russia has only the army and navy as its main allies. It’s like the aircraft carrier was sent by the paddles, so our air force immediately attributed them to the Allies. Such allies will stab in the back at any time. Our main pseudo-ally and potato president, as an incident with Turkey happened, immediately turned his back on Russia. All right said no need to deceive themselves.

[Lukich]

Quote: sasha 19871987

reinforced concrete logic, or rather its absence ...

reinforced concrete lack of any logic. Yes, and where did she get from Maidan miscarriages

[dmi.pris1]

By the way, the logic they have is the most .... logical! The more I reward, the more I will receive (from fenders) money for cleaning ...

Quote: Sasha 19871987

someone just doesn't have enough brains ... "I'll frostbite my ears for evil" I'd rather buy coal for half the world from Africa than from the damned neighbors ... the logic is reinforced concrete, or rather its absence ...

[GSH-18]

Kazakhstan refused to sell gas to Ukraine without coordination with Russia

Skakly cancer there in his banderstad did not get up from such a slap in the face? We thought Russia could be circumvented. Take a bite!
Kazakhs RESPECT!

[Shark Lover]

Coal in Africa?))))))))))))))))))))) Bananas in Yakutia, water in the Sahara, a man lives with a man. grows stronger

[Victor Demchenko]

Big success - buying coal from a country located on the other side of the world? ..
and sho? and if cheaper?
but this (cheaper) is sooo hard to believe ... there, of course, the blacks live, they jumped from the palm yesterday, but they have brains, (since they jumped from the palm), and thus they will clearly understand that they want to throw them! nui will accordingly make an adequate decision. Last year they also squealed that they would do without coal separatists - it wasn’t received, and this year it will be the same ...

[St Petrov]

Today we sell gas on the border with the Russian Federation; today it satisfies us

And tomorrow? They are satisfied today. There are no pompous words about an alliance with the Russian Federation; there is only that such a situation is currently satisfying them.

It would be more advantageous to offer - not the fact that we would read today exactly here

[oldseaman1957]

Kazakhs, unlike Ukrainians, think with their heads.

[kamil_tt]

But should it be otherwise?

[Kasym]

Gazprom has one place in Kazakhstan’s directors (Timur Kulibayev occupied this place until recently, the president’s average son-in-law). Kazakhstan is a transit country for all gas from Central Asia and has never let anyone down. In Orenburg there is a gas processing plant, in which the share of Kazakhstan is 50%, and it processes only Kazakhstani gas from Karachaganak. So what are we talking about! With gas from Russia and Central Asia we have all the little things and it would never occur to anyone to cross the road to each other.
In the picture. We have launched the third branch of the gas pipeline to China. Along the way, 600 people were supplied with gas. points in the south of Kazakhstan. The picture shows one of us. points where the gas came. I warned the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine and Western Europe that if you don't really come to an agreement with Moscow, then our gas will go to the East. No, they didn’t understand - now excuse me, but since the first gas war, we have established supplies to the PRC. In the plans, it remains only to throw its own pipeline from west to east. And so all the plans are almost realized. Even the Russian Federation offered to pump gas through our system of gas pipelines to the PRC (it is only necessary to build 7 stations for pumping gas in order to start the reverse - the National Academy of Sciences promises in a year). So, Gazprom has something to think about while building the Power of Siberia and Altai. By the way, they offered Altai to throw money through himself and allocate money for his site - another "enticement" for Gazprom - the reliability of supplies is guaranteed, we are not Ukrainians - we have never played around with valves. So for the sake of some Demchishins and immediate benefit, Kazakhstan will not destroy well-oiled relations and the work of an entire industry.

[severniy]

Quote: Kasym

Gazprom has one place in Kazakhstan’s directors (Timur Kulibayev occupied this place until recently, the president’s average son-in-law). Kazakhstan is a transit country for all gas from Central Asia and has never let anyone down. In Orenburg there is a gas processing plant, in which the share of Kazakhstan is 50%, and it processes only Kazakhstani gas from Karachaganak. So what are we talking about! With gas from Russia and Central Asia we have all the little things and it would never occur to anyone to cross the road to each other.
In the picture. We have launched the third branch of the gas pipeline to China. Along the way, 600 people were supplied with gas. points in the south of Kazakhstan. The picture shows one of us. points where the gas came. I warned the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine and Western Europe that if you don't really come to an agreement with Moscow, then our gas will go to the East. No, they didn’t understand - now excuse me, but since the first gas war, we have established supplies to the PRC. In the plans, it remains only to throw its own pipeline from west to east. And so all the plans are almost realized. Even the Russian Federation offered to pump gas through our system of gas pipelines to the PRC (it is only necessary to build 7 stations for pumping gas in order to start the reverse - the National Academy of Sciences promises in a year). So, Gazprom has something to think about while building the Power of Siberia and Altai. By the way, they offered Altai to throw money through himself and allocate money for his site - another "enticement" for Gazprom - the reliability of supplies is guaranteed, we are not Ukrainians - we have never played around with valves. So for the sake of some Demchishins and immediate benefit, Kazakhstan will not destroy well-oiled relations and the work of an entire industry.

ATP for kind words!

[GSH-18]

Quote: kamil_tt

But should it be otherwise?

And you ask the jumpers. There will definitely be an "alternative" point of view

[veksha50]

Quote: kamil_tt

But should it be otherwise?

Well, for example, in Ukraine they often think of an ass ... or a pan worn on the head ... There are many options ...

[zanoza]

Quote: s-t Petrov

It would be more advantageous to offer ...

Otherwise, the cost of Kazakh gas, would add the cost of transportation through a Russian gas pipe and then the total cost may be higher for uk * than Russian gas.
And in general, we can refuse RK transportation, referring to the congestion of the pipes ...

[Love]

It is truth too...

[veksha50]

Quote: s-t Petrov

It would be more advantageous to offer - not the fact that we would read today exactly here

You, probably, have a little wrong phrase ...

"There would be an opportunity to bypass Russia" ... that's probably why one could dance ...

Of course, I respect Nazarbayev very much ... But it turned out very cool here - and there is no physical opportunity, and positively as an ally did ...

Another question is when Ukraine offered to buy gas from Kazakhstan, what did its rulers think ??? Or did the Soviet education already reset to such an extent that they even forgot the geographical map ???

[kuz363]

Well, Nazarbayev could not refuse Poroshenko to supply gas! Just officially promised to consider. Well, then the situation was clarified that Russia cannot be circumvented. That's all.

[adept666]

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

What is this solidarity expressed in this case? RK simply does not have means of gas delivery to Ukraine, which is what they said.

[haenx]

But the Kazakhs could create noise, like we agree to sell our gas to the erodemocratic country of Ukraine, and the Russian brothers, however, imperial Russia does not allow the use of its pipe for its Ukrainian brothers. Western media are just waiting for this kipish. Therefore, the Kazakhs are great.

[adept666]

But the Kazakhs could create noise

And what should they create it? It is not they who need gas, they are selling it all the way they extract it. Do you have established sales markets and do they work well? Does Ukraine need this? So Ukraine should organize a 3-party meeting (RF, RK, RU) and launch the negotiation process. It is only special individuals who can engage in nonsense, having at their side a reliable energy supplier who is ready to give serious discounts, invest a lot of money in the gas transportation infrastructure of the transit country and for this only ask not to steal gas and pay for what they "bought" on time. Who else have they not asked to buy gas and coal from? Is that the penguins in Antarctica ...

[Diana Ilyina]

Here is not so much solidarity as sound judgment! There are no fools in Kazakhstan, to supply gas to the flask for free!

[adept666]

Here is not so much solidarity as sound judgment!

Yes, and that’s not the point, they don’t have a pipe, that’s all sadness, we need to agree on transit with the Russian Federation (they said that bilateral agreements are senseless in this case), which will be difficult and not fast for Ukraine itself is transit obligations (in relation to the Russian Federation) poorly fulfills both gas and electricity. It’s just that you don’t need to attribute to the words a certain additional meaning that they said it is, but for those who doubt it, I can remind you of NABUKO (an exclusively anti-Russian project). Kazakhstan there is one of the key participants.

[Guard]

Quote: adept666

and for doubters, I can recall about NABUKO (exclusively anti-Russian project). Kazakhstan there is one of the key participants.

Kazakhstan was initially out of business. Then they invited already. Kazakhstan officially together with Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan sent the forest of all Nabucco initiators.

Quote from a 2009 article to refresh memory:
Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan refused to sign the political declaration prepared for the summit “The Southern Corridor - the New Silk Road”, which opened on Friday in Prague under the pretext that the document “requires significant revision”.
http://www.kursiv.kz/dopolnitelnye-razdely/kompanii1/kazakhstan-ne-podpisalsja-p

od-nabucco /

[79807420129]

You can laugh for a long time over the dolboklustvo dill, the brains seem to be completely and irrevocably saturated. And the Kazakhs are real allies.

[marlin1203]

Well, not all of Ukraine benefits from its transit geographical position ...

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: scrap123

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

A colleague, without prejudice to Kazakhstan’s neighbors, I do not see any solidarity. Absolute economic pragmatics. Kazakhstan sells its gas to Russia at its border. And even if you virtually present an agreement with Ukraine, it is necessary to develop transit arrangements for the transportation of Kazakhstani gas for Svidomo through the territory of the Russian Federation. At the moment, this is really not necessary for Kazakhstan.
Something like that, colleague.

[adept666]

Absolute economic pragmatics.

Absolutely right.

[gloomy fox]

it’s nice sometimes to read such news about your country))

[good7]

What solidarity? They understand that they will not be paid - that’s all!

[Kasym]

Solidarity is simple. Astana has a key to gas from Central Asia. And if we were not allies and partners in gas, then NAS could simply arrange blackmail. Do not let gas in Kiev - block the gas from Central Asia. And from Kiev, a prepayment would be taken - it’s not going anywhere - it grew. they don’t buy gas in principle, and they will not give him a reverse from the West in winter. But never, judging by his policies, he would not do that. This is real solidarity.

[Talgat]

Of course! Kazakhstan’s policies and decisions are not dictated by short-term interests, but by long-term strategic relations.

Even if it was suddenly both profitable and possible - but Ak-Orda will never go against Russia, the country closest to us in essence, with which we are in a military alliance. We place a number of bases, integrate economies. going to introduce a single currency and so on

[Victor Demchenko]

and you have beshbarmak !!! mmmm !!!

[BARKHAN]

Dear Kazakhs, I’ll just say ... thank you!
And for, the fact that you are the only ones who recognized the referendum and reunification of Crimea with Russia, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Well, one word to the great Ukrainians ... HELLO !!!

[BARKHAN]

Someone is naughty, inserted a face. Initially, it was not.

[gladcu2]

scrap123

The Kazakhs are certainly youthful, but this is not solidarity. This is common sense.

When a large peasant family sits down to dinner at a table from one boiler, there must always be someone who keeps order. Father, or older brother or mother. Otherwise, swara may begin.

A friendly family is when common morality works for mutual understanding.

But it so happened that someone throughout the country wanted to emigrate to Europe. He was instilled with other values. Values ​​do not keep family morality.

Now the whole family is in the right, negligent to tap on the forehead with spoons. Until normal morality falls into place.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: scrap123

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

It is, rather, not solidarity, but a sober understanding that the 404 will not pay for gas, but instead will squeal about a "fair price".
The experience of the northern neighbor in terms of gas supplies to / from 404 is very indicative for Kazakhstan.

[Vikings]

That's who you have to deal with !!! First Azeri, then Kazakhs pos-
Lali Bander-Krajina! That's what sequence means,
predictability in politics. But it’s no secret that Azeri and
Kazakhs are both Turkic-speaking countries! And are strategic
the allies of Ankara in the post-Soviet space.
Truly comes to mind: Lord My God! Don't know where
You will find, and where you lose .:

[Kasym]

I do not know if your infarmation took place or not. Erdogan called (he asked) to NASU regarding relations with the Russian Federation. The commission grew.-tour. I asked some to create, to help. And on the next. NAS Day read out the message to the people. He said that he was growing. the plane did not pose a threat to Turkey. And that Daesh flew to bomb. Supporting Erdogan for ANAS means driving a wedge into his brainchild of the EAEU. So the choice is obvious in the pair Turkey-Russia.

[Talgat]

Kazakhstan definitely long ago made a choice in favor of Eurasian integration, and the main ally of the KZ is the Russian Federation with Belarus, Kyrgyzstan

Pan-Turkism is a "paper tiger" and a soap bubble

It will never happen that KZ changed Russia to Turkey - this is incredible and fantastic

But as a platform and intermediary for a conversation with Turkey, Russia unequivocally uses Kazakhstan’s help at the right time.

[cergey51046]

Kazakhstan has no border with Ukraine.

[APASUS]

Quote: scrap123

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

And here is solidarity, why do Kazakhs need hemorrhoids?

[KVS]

look at the map and see that Kazakhstan and the outskirts do not border ...
because they refused to supply gas ... and maybe also because the outskirts are not capable of payment ...

[kotyara]

Solidarity or just calculation? In any case, there is no other option but to drive through Russia!

[kodxnumx]

This is brotherly!

[avdkrd]

Quote: scrap123

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

What does solidarity have to do with it? How can Kazakh gas be delivered to Ukraine, bypassing Russia ???? Only in the depths of the great dying brain could such an idea be born that Russia, to the detriment of itself, would act as a transit country for gas from Kazakhstan. Demchishin smokes especially foul nonsense, since this comes to his head not burdened with thoughts. Maybe, of course, the flight of his imagination extended to the fact that the Kazakhs would lay a pipeline bypassing Russia, so that the bankrupt state could exist for some more time? In general, independence from the brain comes through in all the conflicting ideas of the junta. It’s interesting - really, is Ukraine aware of the memory of the population like fish (5min.)? Otherwise, why do Ukrainian officials again and again carry complete nonsense with the appearance that they are doing it for the first time? Europe certainly does not know that it will sell RUSSIAN GAS to Ukraine cheaper than it buys from Russia, but there is a microscopic possibility, and in the case of Kazakh gas in general, beyond good and evil ....

[Aposlya]

But one thing is not clear - the Chui Valley is located in Kazakhstan, but all the consequences are happening in Ukraine ... What is the connection ?!

[Zefr]

Well, it is possible that this is not really "solidarity". They said - "it suits us." Those. they supply gas to their border, Russia pays for it, and there at least the grass won't grow. Well, why would they, in that case, get involved with the beggars of the Ukrainian authorities? For what? No benefit, just loss. And to interfere in other people's showdowns - they need it?

[abrakadabre]

At the same time, official Kiev did not report which routes from Kazakhstan gas should be in Ukraine "without agreement with Russia", given the geographical location of the two states.

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

It is not even a matter of coordinating transit with Russia. The first question is what should be asked to the Ukrainian side: What about solvency? If it is unprofitable for Russia to sponsor such freeloaders, then for Kazakhstan, whose population is three times (approximately) less than in Ukraine, this is all the more a burden.

[RUSS]

Who stuck such a card in this article ??? Aw !!! People!!! Crimea is not our first year, and where by the way is Abkhazia and South Ossetia?

[RUSS]

Quote: RUSS

Who stuck such a card in this article ??? Aw !!! People!!! Crimea is not our first year, and where by the way is Abkhazia and South Ossetia?

Thank you for promptly deleting an outdated card.

[fregina1]

they would have taken the thread in Mongolia already! Circus! but popcorn was boring somehow

[S-cream]

At the same time, official Kiev did not report which routes from Kazakhstan gas should be in Ukraine "without agreement with Russia", given the geographical location of the two states.

by air.
Well, or around. The earth is round, even on the left, even on the right, you can pull a pipe, what's the question?

[izya top]

Kiev did not report which routes from Kazakhstan gas should be in Ukraine

in parallel reality the whole globe-Ukraine

[B.T.V.]

"Clowns" are in their repertoire, and they are not tired of it. Maybe, indeed, some psychotropic weapon is being tested in Ukraine ?!

[tomcat117]

Kazakhstan refused to sell gas to Ukraine without coordination with Russia ...

Although in this matter we were not treated with a "knife in the back".

[kamil_tt]

And here is the country's economic interests and a knife in the back?

[Sasha75]

Since in the end, the seller will also have to deal with such.

[Wedmak]

Beautifully twisted. Well done. Nevertheless, I already know how Ukraine will pay for these deliveries. So the Kazakhs, with a brain in their wits, masterly sent the junta in the right direction.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Wedmak

how Ukraine will pay for these deliveries.

He won’t pay in any way - I already laid out (look in my comments) - that no one is going to close the gas to them.

[Denis Obukhov]

a business in Ukrainian - I would buy, but there is no money, give for a promise ... And when I receive it, I’ll definitely pay it off - right on your porch ...

[yuriy55]

Nazarbayev made the right choice. An old friend is better than two new ones...

[Mercenary]

"To supply gas to Ukraine, first of all, it is necessary to come to an agreement with Russia."
Come on, gentlemen, Kazakhs, what does Russia have to do with it? They would say honestly - "We are not sure about the ability to pay, and we do not want to expect payment for gas."

[Zymran]

Quote: Mercenary

Come on, gentlemen, Kazakhs, what does Russia have to do with it? They would say honestly - "We are not sure about the ability to pay, and we do not want to expect payment for gas."

Despite the fact that, except through the territory of Russia, gas supply will not work.

[izya top]

peerogogs have no end

The crew and the ship laying the cable for the construction of the energy bridge from the Krasnodar Territory to the Crimea will be arrested. This was announced on the air of the program "Question of National Security" by People's Deputy Georgy Logvinsky.



According to him, Ukraine has already opened a criminal case against the captain of the vessel.

“Concerning this cable layer, criminal proceedings have been opened, information about the captain and the team is being recorded. I’m sure that this cable layer should be arrested, the person will be prosecuted, according to the sanction of the article, it’s five or eight years in prison, ”said Logvinsky.

[izya top]

and ish

Ukraine will sue Russia "Nord Stream" through the Hague court in claims of Crimeans. This was announced on the air channel "Black Sea TRK" by former deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Andrei Senchenko, party functionary Yulia Tymoshenko.



According to him, the court will be overwhelmed with hundreds of thousands of lawsuits, after which Russia will be forced to pay huge funds to Ukraine, otherwise it will lose its gas pipe.

“Those numbers that Mr. Yatsenyuk called, who said that we will judge about a trillion hryvnias, look ridiculous. This is 50 billion dollars, this amount is enough to cover only the damage done to citizens ...

We get 100 thousand court decisions, and then we go to arrest, for example, Nord Stream. When it comes to the Yukos case, where five or ten individuals are behind a claim of $ 50 billion, that's one thing. And in our case, we are talking about two million citizens affected. A completely different attitude to this, ”said Senchenko.

[your1970]

“Criminal proceedings have been opened against this cable-laying operator, information about the captain and the crew is being recorded. I am sure that this cable-laying operator should be arrested, the person brought to justice, according to the sanction of the article, this is five or eight years in prison, "said Logvinsky."

I wonder what article?
Terrorism is not suitable, separatism is not suitable, propaganda is not suitable, propaganda of communism is not a Soviet ship, espionage is not suitable, sabotage is no, well, of course it’s cunning for the Right Sector: they tried, blew up ..- doesn’t fit, theft-there was no cable there, otherwise they could blame that he wound it and handed it in color - it doesn’t fit .. what else is there from the heavy ?? ?

Oh, I remembered - rape !!!! - he raped all the brains of the President, the Verkhovna Rada and the country's energy experts 404. It can really be sewn ...

[izya top]

Quote: your1970

Oh, remembered - rape !!!

used is cosplay of "Good night, kids":
1. The main characters are pig and rabbit
2. Both tell tales
3. All this is controlled by the wrong hands, and through a dupole.

[dchegrinec]

Nazarbayev is a true friend! This is not the first time that he has not betrayed general views on the situation in the world. Such and should be reliable partners! Accordingly, Russia will do the same.

[Masya masya]

"Earlier, the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, Volodymyr Demchishin, said that Kazakhstan could allegedly start delivering its gas to Ukraine." As always, the lip was rolled out, and they forgot to ask Kazakhstan ...

[Guard]

Earlier, Demchishin told his fellow citizens that he had "negotiated" with the Kazakhs on the supply of Kazakh coal. Although I should have guessed that Kazakh coal is not suitable for Ukrainian thermal power plants. And, essno, the Kazakhs did not even make any plans to sell coal. Despite the fact that the Ukrainian delegation tried to raise this issue in Astana. The Ukrainians quickly realized that the Kazakhs were not interested in this topic, as well as the topic of building a Chinese restaurant outside the solar system.

[wicked pinnochio]

ha ha khokhlov Kazakhs are already throwing

[raid14]

Again zrada, now from Kazakhstan, Svidomo will not see gas or coal without the knowledge of Russia.
With Slovakia, a gas permalone without pennies no longer rolls.

[3vs]

Yes there are no fools, to supply their resources for free to the insolent.

[ivanych]

... all sorts of people walk here with a bag under the fence, they want something ...

[Old Schweik]

Ukraine will buy gas ....
It's even funny ... "Letting it be used" is closer.

[kamil_tt]

No need to politicize our decision. Obviously, the Kazakh side, if it finds gas reserves that meet the requirements of the Ukrainian side, will not mind. But as the history of negotiations on this topic shows, everything depends on gas transportation. But there is only one way - through Russia. Kiev has long been trying to obtain permission from Russia for direct transit of Central Asian gas from Russia. But 99% that Russia will not do this.
At the same time, Kazakh gas is unlikely to be cheaper than Russian. The whole question is in the netback pricing formula (export netback is the price on the foreign market minus logistics costs and export duties) that is, the price of gas in Poland neighboring Ukraine. Moreover, the price in Poland is now even slightly higher than the one proposed by Russia.

[kamil_tt]

Quote: zanoza

Quote: s-t Petrov

It would be more advantageous to offer ...

Otherwise, the cost of Kazakh gas, would add the cost of transportation through a Russian gas pipe and then the total cost may be higher for uk * than Russian gas.
And in general, we can refuse RK transportation, referring to the congestion of the pipes ...

In theory, as the EAEU works, Kazakhstan will gain access to the energy infrastructure and will be able to supply its gas wherever it wants ..

[SPB 1221]

Ukraine will sue Russia "Nord Stream" through the Hague court in claims of Crimeans. This was announced on the air channel "Black Sea TRK" by former deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Andrei Senchenko, party functionary Yulia Tymoshenko.

Ukraine will catch a head and eggs and x / r / e / n / which will sue!

[Love]

Come on, gentlemen, Kazakhs, what does Russia have to do with it? They would say honestly - "We are not sure about the ability to pay, and we do not want to expect payment for gas."

I think there was an agreement at the top, if anything, to blame everything on us in the negotiations on gas between Kazakhstan and Urkaina (if any). Although, also as an option. Well, if not, then fellow countrymen are great! Have not forgotten about the "big white brother".

[communication]

The coal itself is on the side, but bought in Africa. The Poles do not want to buy in the Donbass next time.

[Mowgli]

The coal itself is on the side, but bought in Africa. The Poles do not want to buy in the Donbass next time.

Coal from Polish deposits is not suitable for Ukrainian thermal power plants (they are designed for Donetsk coal).
So you have to carry already from South Africa.
They also drove from Kuzbass for some time.

[Love]

Although, Kazakhstan showed a certain "diamonds interest" in Khokhlostan until the same July 2015.
http://ic24.kz/economics/22515

[Alexander 67]

Guys, what kind of sentimentality? It's business, and nothing personal. And there is no solidarity here. From the end of 90_x, the beginning of 2000_x. Tajikistan and Kazakhstan, not having their own transportation capabilities, agreed with Gazprom. Gas is pumped into a Russian pipe at a solid price. With a steady change in world prices, one of the parties may initiate a price review. Now, let’s see an unstable, but all the same reduction in gas prices in the world. And Gazprom does not initiate a review. Accept Kazakhstan to sell gas to another buyer without agreeing with Russia. It immediately cancels its agreement with Gazprom by its actions. And the remaining gas will have to be sold to Russia, at a different price.

[russmensch]

... official Kiev did not report which routes from Kazakhstan gas should be in Ukraine "without agreement with Russia,"

Why not understand? Jumping ... quiet trails and so on to Kiev

[tolmachiev51]

If every bureaucrat / touches ours / paid out of his own pocket, there would be less such economic idiocy. Gas supplies from Kazakhstan ??? !!!! - one can feel the "hand of mentors" from whom Belarus has become a sea power.

[tinibar]

Quote: scrap123

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

Do you think that should be otherwise? How much is already possible that no ally can only demand from Russia ... But what special regime is being introduced on the border with Belarus to control the delivered fruits and vegetables? Fight Russia, support, feed, and we will simply do business and nothing personal ?!

[atamankko]

It's time for the junta to roll his lips, the freebie ends.

[Gormenghast]

Really again bought the South African coal? Received last year a rake on the forehead - and again.

Apparently, they decided to destroy TPPs as well as destroy nuclear power plants. The former will poison Ukrainians with sulfur dioxide (until they are completely bent), and the latter with life-giving radiation.

[MIKHALYCH1]

Thank you Kazakhstan! This is really fraternal assistance to Russia .. It’s hard for us now, they have laid tax on all sides and the blood is already pouring! We will not stay in debt ...

[cergey51046]

But how can Kazakhstan sell, build a pipe bypassing Russia?

[cergey51046]

But how can Kazakhstan sell, build a pipe bypassing Russia?

[Guard]

Quote: cergey51046

But how can Kazakhstan sell, build a pipe bypassing Russia?

Hypothetically, the Central Asian countries could easily sell gas across the Caspian - by tankers to Azerbaijan and then through a gas pipeline a la Nabucco. Only the fundamental refusal of these "stans" buried the hopes of Europeans for the implementation of such projects.
We are satisfied with the current situation, when we have two main customers - Russia and China. Why do we spoil relations with neighbors?

[cergey51046]

Where a crest went, there is nothing for a Jew to do. They are booming, there is a cock with a screw on the cunning ass.

[Lex.]

Yes, it’s time for Lukashenko to distinguish gas, oil gets at a discount, but it’s neither a friend nor an enemy

[Fonmeg]

At the same time, official Kiev did not report which routes from Kazakhstan gas should be in Ukraine "without agreement with Russia", given the geographical location of the two states.

They studied these geography on a globular Zhovtoblakitny (one half is blue, the other is yellow) on which all the territories are ukrov!

[Mig-31]

Quote: Yeraz

Quote: _Vladislav_

Greetings

And you comrade

Quote: _Vladislav_

Maybe. But as regards specifically the allied aspects, there are many questions. Unfortunately.

There is no alliance. The media do not particularly advertise the trade wars of the CU countries among themselves.
In no conflict there was even ORAL support. And in the case of Turkey, not a few Kazakhs will be on the side of Turkey. You can not relieve the blood proximity of the Turkic peoples.

And if they build a pipeline through the Caspian, Kazakhstan will change its position even more.

Turks surrendered to us, even if someone would commit genocide against the Turks, not only I, but 99% of the Kazakhs would not even lift a finger simply because the Turks in Turkey are as distant people to us as the Eskimos in Alaska, here Azerbaijanis will definitely be for the Turks.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Mig-31

Azerbaijanis will definitely be for the Turks.

This is exactly the case.
And here is the confirmation:
http://politobzor.net/show-73537-turciya-udarila-po-serdcu-moskvy

And now - another review of the Baku media, so that you can understand what they are preparing for the country's population.

“The new stage of the Baku-Ankara alliance - friends are satisfied, enemies are disappointed”

“Russia cannot live without war,” writes the Avropa info expert group. - Entering its troops into Syria after Ukraine, the Kremlin now grinds its teeth in the direction of Turkey. Moscow brings its relationship with Ankara to the level of war ... Putin has pulled Russia into this trap. And so the owner of the Kremlin was mistaken when he stated that “Turkey hit us in the back. It would be right to say, “Ankara hit Moscow’s heart” ... Attempts to speak the language of war with Turkey make Putin’s death inevitable. ”
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The chairman of one of the many clones of the ruling party - “Modern Musavat” - Hafiz Hajiyev claims that allegedly “the Russians occupied Karabakh, giving it to Armenia, staged genocide in Khojaly, the tragedy of January 20. Therefore, we must be close to our brothers, the Turks ... Society should learn about those who want to justify the aggressor policy of Russia, which organized a real massacre in Baku on January 20. They are now saying this for the sake of a post or something else. It is unacceptable. I am just disgusted to see all this. They sold offal for a Russian pie. ” He justifies his words by saying that “what if a Russian plane dropped a bomb on Turkey? Turkey is quite right, and the decision to bring down the plane should only be applauded ... Let them ask Russia what the hell the Russian plane did in Turkey? Can they kill anyone they want? ”
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“Given that Azerbaijan is an ally of Turkey, the Kremlin will not be interested in resolving the territorial problem of Azerbaijan. But this does not limit the right of Azerbaijan to free its lands, ”political analyst Elkhan Shahinoglu writes.

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Military expert Uzeyir Jafarov does not understand “the actions of the Russian side, which is only trying to tense the situation. Russia should not worry about the situation in Karabakh, since it has nothing to do with it. This is the territory of the Republic of Azerbaijan, which has bilateral relations with Turkey. "

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The editor-in-chief of this newspaper, Rauf Arifoglu, is sure that “Turkey taught a lesson to Russia, whose ambitions are growing day by day, on behalf of the whole progressive world and the Turkic world ... We are with brotherly Turkey with all our hearts, souls and our prayers. Turkey is the second Azerbaijan for us, our Motherland ... Not Turkey and Russia act as parties, but we and Russia. But the Russians are defying Turkey, violating borders, killing the Syrian Turkmen who are related to the Bayat tribe, shouldn't they get an answer for that? ”
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Political analyst Tofig Abbasov thinks, “nothing negative has happened in Russian-Azerbaijani relations, and therefore we should not intervene in the conflict between Russia and Turkey.” Regarding the Karabakh problem, “we unanimously declare that Russia supports Armenia. But the CIA is behind the plan for Karabakh. ”
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[veksha50]

Quote: stalkerwalker

It would be right to say, “Ankara hit the heart of Moscow”

Hmm ... Wait and see ...

PS Moscow (Russia) has a hand longer than the Turkish ...

[Guard]

Quote: Mig-31

Turks surrendered to us, even if someone would commit genocide against the Turks, not only I, but 99% of the Kazakhs would not even lift a finger simply because the Turks in Turkey are as distant people to us as the Eskimos in Alaska

Durys aytasyn, bauyrym. Turkey Magan do not care))))
That's right) Kazakhs have good relations with Turkey, they are closer than Czechs or Belgians, but Turks are farther for us than Mongols or Russians. And when the Turks in private conversation chatting about the community of Turkic peoples, I do not argue, but I sincerely do not believe in this. Turks are a non-Turkic people who speak the Turkic dialect. They are not genetically related to us. Even Hungarians and Mongols are closer to us by blood than Turks.
Of course, we have no reason to spoil relations with them. However, even when choosing "Russia or Turkey", the answer is obvious for most Kazakhs.

"If a Kazakh fights a Russian, then I am on the side of a Kazakh. And if a Russian fights a French, then I will certainly take the side of a Russian.". Shokan Ualikhanov, 19th century (outstanding Kazakh scientist, Russian officer, intelligence officer, direct descendant of Genghis Khan).

[Ajent cho]

Kazakhstan refused to sell gas to Ukraine without coordination with Russia

Unexpectedly, however ...

[pvv113]

Kazakhstan responded with an official refusal to Ukraine to its requests for gas supply without coordination with the Russian side

It is gratifying that there are real allies

[Max_Bauder]

Most importantly, this decision should somehow help the Armed Forces of Ukraine to stop shelling civilians of the DPR and LPR.

[veksha50]

"Kazakhstan refused to sell gas to Ukraine without coordination with Russia" ...

I always respected Nazarbayev ... A wise oriental man ... He does not want to quarrel with anyone, but also does not want to give up the interests of his country ...

This time he wisely chose the least of two evils ... In general, as often ...

[Gunther]

Gutters have grief, Gutalin did not shake hands at the "climate summit" in Paris (although the slander jumped out of his pants), Nazarbayev broke off on gas.
Now, only joy remained - Joe arrived and now Patroshenko can practice speed jumping out of his pants - after all, Biden hinted "I communicate with Poroshenko more often than my own wife."

... Ukraine has signed a contract for the supply of coal from South Africa. The first ship from the Republic of South Africa arrived in Odessa on the eve ..

Now conceive, demons, the blue sky of Podolia (((

[series]

Well, at least thanks to our TS partners ...

[asiat_61]

Nazarbayev, a man with a head, and even an old school. He understands that there will be no Russia, there will be no Kazakhstan.

[Guard]

Quote: asiat_61

He understands that there will be no Russia, there will be no Kazakhstan.

It’s not necessary to build a current “white man carrying a burden” ...
We are interdependent countries. The Kazakh army essentially protects 7500 km of the Kazakh-Russian border, as a result of which there is no need for Russia to retain any significant forces in the central military district (except for strategic aviation). Therefore, Russians can calmly concentrate on defending their borders with the West and China.
Neither in economy nor in politics does Kazakhstan act as a freeloader, a cripple, or a grumbling partner. Our countries initially outlined the vector of coexistence and mutual respect, and already all other economic and political actions are built on the basis of this vector.

[Conscience]

ukroina has become a country of inadequacies, I wonder how long will it fall to the bottom?

[33 Watcher]

I was confused to be honest, I was busy and did not follow. Are we supplying gas to Ukraine now? It seems they didn’t make an advance (prepayment). And if we deliver, then under what conditions? There are some kind of contradictory statements from our elite. Explain ..? If anyone is following this.

[AdekvatNICK]

Gazprom does not expect prepayment and resumption of Russian gas supplies to Ukraine by the end of the year due to the difficult financial situation of NJSC Naftogaz of Ukraine. This was reported by the press service of Gazprom.


In turn, Naftogaz intends to apply to the Russian side with a request for a discount on the price for the first quarter of 2016. And Gazprom requested a letter of guarantee from Naftogaz on the volume of purchases by the end of March.

Thus, until the end of December, the parties expect to determine the conditions for the purchase of Russian gas by Ukraine for the first quarter of 2016.

Let us remind you that now Ukraine receives gas from Russia and Europe. For the fourth quarter, Russia has set the price for Ukraine at $ 227 thousand cubic meters of gas. Europe also sold "blue fuel" at the same price. However, in the fall, the European price dropped to $ 192 due to warm weather.

they are currently taking gas from their storage facilities.

[bugrovata]

We do not supply! The prepayment was not made! Yatsenyuk said that "it is not Russia that is not selling us gas, but we ourselves have refused to buy."

[Wolka]

Kazakhs are in our interests, we are in our own, dill problems are not interesting at all to anyone, now even the Yankees ...

[sgr291158]

The Kazakhs figured that they could end up without trousers themselves.

[PatriotKZ]

Kasim is right!!

[PatriotKZ]

The fascists will not receive gas from Kazakhstan.

[Zomanus]

Well, in general, Kazakhstan’s answer is correct.
The Kazakhs are pumping gas to China and pumping gas to Russia.
Why should they hesitate and waste their money on Ukraine?
who doesn’t even have money to pay.
And so the gas sales market is established and operates without
bustle and interruptions.

[Military Builder]

Quote: _Vladislav_

It’s too early to lick Kazakhs.

It’s absolutely true that Kazakhstan’s position regarding Turkey is neutral, i.e. We are friends with Russia, but we do not quarrel with Turkey.

[bugrovata]

Thank you, friends!
Kazakhs are not Luka!

[72jora72]

The fact that Ukrainians buy coal in Africa is half the trouble, it doesn’t burn a damn thing, Ukrainian thermal power plants are designed specifically for Donbass coals.....

[Belousov]

Well, they have already announced “peremoga”, and here again “zrada”. Once again Putin made a point.

[colonel manuch]

Our real allies are Kazakhs and Belarusians, we communicated and worked with both of them, they are good partners, and of course, like any normal person, they will not miss theirs.

[Georgema]

I think it’s no secret that any woman dreams of being stylish, beautiful, spectacular! In order to achieve this result, all ladies prefer to use cosmetics of various levels. Moreover, they can be different, from products for daily care to professional lines. Many people resort to old grandmother's recipes.

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[drugg]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Quote: scrap123

well done Kazakhs here I understand solidarity is not something that some ...

It’s too early to lick Kazakhs.
It must be remembered that firstly, Kazakhstan is a member of the CSTO and a member of the EAEU. Which by itself implies and imposes a certain measure of responsibility on the Kazakhs, to act in the wake of a common policy.

But we Russians, have long been accustomed to the fact that our allies (for the most part) put a bolt on some problems that interest us. We solve all issues and problems of a geopolitical and military nature ourselves, and patiently treat the contacts of our allies with Western leaders. And when such handouts arise in the form of coordinating gas supplies, we perceive this as a gift from God. Although if we are allies - this should be the prose of the day (everyday life and everyday life).

PS
Look at the United States and its allies (albeit vassals).
What is the degree of interaction and solidarity. If they have some kind of problem, they all put up their connections (through the media, through the ministries of foreign affairs), and act as one.

What is going on with us? Either deathly silence, or they begin to mumble.

No need to lick. Although it hurt us, But you are 100% right about anything about the CSTO and NATO or the West.

[Bulrumeb]

Big success - buying coal from a country located on the other side of the world? ..

Overseas, even a heifer is half a heifer, but transportation is expensive

[Alfizik]

This is what the Ukrainians demand: that the dumplings fly into their mouths themselves, and that gas is free... But here’s the problem: the dumplings are in Moscow.

[linen]

Well done KAZAKHS!!!!

[Roxa]

Yatsenyuk said that “it is not Russia that does not sell us gas, but we ourselves refused to buy it.”



This is a diagnosis!!!!

[Atigay]

I applaud while standing!

[su163]

Let me buy gas in the Republic of South Africa.....there the border is not an obstacle

[Susul]

“Consent of Russia” is such a polite message, so as not to offend the “partner” too much =)
Because gas supplies also mean payment, preferably on time.
But in Ukrainian realities, gas supplies mean “gas today, but the next government will pay you”

So the Kazakhs referred to Russia. Russia will endure everything =)

[Evil 55]

Sick people...They could just as well have ordered gas from South Africa or Australia...