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Older, but still looking like a keen-eyed hawk, Zbigniew Brzezinski gave a great interview to Politico magazine. According to the former ideologist of the confrontation with the Soviet Union, the West reacted calmly to the Russian plane shot down by the Turks. Yes, and Moscow later realized that exacerbation of tension would not lead to anything good. Moreover, Turkish-Russian friction can be the cause of "some progress" in the relations of major powers.




Zbigniew Brzezinski (Zbigniew Brzezinski) recently gave an interview to Michael Hirsch, the editor Politico Magazine.

The publication recalls that Mr. Brzezinski was a national security adviser under President Jimmy Carter in the mid and late 1970s. In that historical the Zbigniew era had a reputation as a "Cold War hawk." Because of his hawkish views, he even had to resign (in protest) to one “pigeon” - Secretary of State Cyrus Vance. Brzezinski called for pressure on the Soviet bloc. After the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, he forced Carter to start financing the Mujahideen (in 1980). The aim was to exhaust the Soviets in the war and even crush power in the Union.

However, now, despite the new round of escalation of tensions between the United States and Russia, Brzezinski is optimistic about relations between Moscow and Washington. In his opinion, American and Russian interests in fact coincide in many respects.

To the question of Michael Hirsch about the Russian plane shot down by the Turks, the interviewee answered that the contradictions between Russia and the West on this issue were “serious, but not lethal.” “In some respects,” noted Brzezinski, “if common sense and reason win, they (the contradictions) could even be salutary, and not only in solving the unpleasant regional problem, but also preventing the potentially more destructive consequences of the coming global system, in which three superpowers would immediately dominate. ”

According to the hawk, the West has responded to recent news from the Middle East "calm". Later, the Russians, “taking a deep breath,” realized that the aggravation of the crisis was “a road to nowhere.” The only result of such a crisis would be “a serious clash in which Russia would be isolated.” In fact, thanks to the Turkish-Russian friction, the West and Russia could come to some kind of salutary decision to curb violence in the Middle East.

In early October, in an article for the Financial Times, Brzezinski called on the West to make efforts and involve Russia in negotiations on the future of the region. Now, however, what is planned in the negotiations in Vienna should be done, taking into account the general threat that accompanies the “fine relations between the nuclear powers”.

According to the expert, there is no “great national benefit for Russia” in Syria. It makes no sense to keep Assad "forever in the office." But for Washington there is no national benefit in forcing Assad to leave immediately. And the two powers have a “common interest” in preventing a possible collision between the United States and the Russian Federation.

And the stakes in this game are not so dramatic. There is a way out. The same Ukrainian geopolitical problem can be solved by “Finlandization” - Brzezinski spoke about this before. Ukraine should not join NATO. And now "everyone seems to be guided by such a motion vector," said the ex-hawk.

Returning to the Turkish incident, Brzezinski noted that Washington was “very lucky” that Su-24 was shot down by Turkey, and not by the Americans. If the Americans shot down the plane, Putin would hardly have “digested” such a blow. “And I am glad,” the expert continued, “that this was not an incident in the Baltic republics, where Russians tend to react much harder, and the ability of the Baltic states to fight back would be minimal, which would lead to an obvious need for a forceful response from the US ".

America does not need to worry about expanding cooperation between Russia and China, Brzezinski said. In the short term, China’s geostrategic interests will be in the area of ​​stability. Stability allows China to steadily increase its influence in achieving its economic goals: access to the Indian Ocean and Central Asia (by sea and rail), and through these countries to expansion to the West, resulting in a “gradual and careful” balance of power in Central Asia between Russia and China will be biased in favor of China. And the Russians here will not be able to do anything. Moreover, local countries, with the exception of Kyrgyzstan, will be "welcome" by the Chinese. They are well aware, Brzezinski believes, that their independence will disappear if they become “an integral part of the Moscow-promoted Eurasian Union ...”

“In the cold war era, you were known as a hawk,” the journalist said. “It seems to me that you consider that at present the American and Russian interests are much more similar.”

“This is true,” answered Brzezinski. - If the situation in the Middle East is completely out of control, the first thing will be a threat from Iran, with which a long-term nuclear-related treaty was recently concluded. This, in turn, will create very serious problems for Israel, and at least a few people in the Israeli leadership will be tempted to use military force. ” This is where the region can split. High will be the probability of "redistribution". Therefore, today Russia and the West have a common regional interest - stability, believes Zbigniew Brzezinski.

“But some experts believe that Putin’s goal is to revive Russia's status as a great power, and he will be ready for anything to achieve this,” the interviewer noted.

“Perhaps,” the former “hawk” replied, “his approach to these questions is indeed irrational. He was obviously angry first of all because of the bad news. However, as I think, he very quickly realized that forcing the situation does not promise him a win, unless he is going to start a war. But with whom to fight and with what consequences? ”

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It seems that the former ideologue of the confrontation between the USA and the USSR and a close friend of the Afghan Mujahideen Brzezinski has now taken “a semitone lower”. The USSR on the world map is long gone, to suppress and weaken one. He considers today's Russia to be an ally in the affairs of the West rather than a strategic adversary, despite Putin’s “irrationality”.

With this vision of the situation, the hawk Brzezinski seems to be about to turn into a “dove”. In fact, he is clearly pushing Russia towards a new Afghanistan: he wants it to fight for "stability" in the Middle East along with the United States, and in fact instead of the United States. Chaos in the region, arranged, by the way, by the West, will drag out, suck Moscow for a long time, and in such a situation, in parallel with the existing expensive Ukrainian problem, the Kremlin really has nothing left to do but draw closer to the West, beg for new loans and remain the raw materials appendage Into which smart strategists from Washington with the assistance of Gorbachev and his political market heirs quickly turned the largest fragment of the USSR.

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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 7 December 2015 06: 43
    -13 qualifying.
    The fact that in Syria for 5 years is for sure, ISIS is unlikely to be dispersed without a ground operation;
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 7 December 2015 07: 30
      22
      Estimate, they’re already driving))))) And if you start playing with numbers of percent of the liberated territory in relation to the total occupied, then you can justifiably throw a poop at you. The West likes to say that Assad has 20 percent of the country, but that 80 percent of the population lives there, is silent) So here. At the moment, key, well-strengthened positions over several years are being vacated. Who will dig into the earth in the desert of which there are many?)
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 7 December 2015 10: 45
        +2
        Why should they bury? They will leave for Turkey and Iraq, then they will come again. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have a lot of money, and it’s beneficial for the Yankees to continue the chaos. Do you really think that Assad will allow us to deal with them? If they wanted to do this, a year and a half would be enough, they would click on Turkey and a couple of times the sponsor accounts would be blocked and everything would stop. You can recall any confrontation with the Yankees to draw conclusions. But this is my personal opinion, but you can comfort yourself fast victory.
        1. Mitek
          Mitek 7 December 2015 11: 46
          +3
          Quote: Igor39
          Why should they bury? They will leave for Turkey and Iraq, then they will come again. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have a lot of money, and it’s beneficial for the Yankees to continue the chaos. Do you really think that Assad will allow us to deal with them? If they wanted to do this, a year and a half would be enough, they would click on Turkey and a couple of times the sponsor accounts would be blocked and everything would stop. You can recall any confrontation with the Yankees to draw conclusions. But this is my personal opinion, but you can comfort yourself fast victory.

          Then I agree with you, Igor. BUT the restoration of statehood will entail the restoration of state institutions, such as the army, police, etc. There is an opinion that ours will not leave Syria. And the Basmachis, having left for Turkey (maybe in Irak, they’ll complicate their lives too) will be unable to wage a full-scale war, control oil and sell it. But border skirmishes are another matter entirely.
          And as for the give-not give ... Wait and see. The loss of Syria is a war on the borders of Russia, and even in Russia itself. And finally, this is gas from Qatar in Europe. For this reason, we will not leave there.
          1. Igor39
            Igor39 7 December 2015 12: 35
            +1
            The Yankees sent special forces, the French are preparing to send their own, the Angles, too, will enter from the territory of Iraq, occupy the oil-bearing regions and put them under the control of the so-called "moderate" opposition, and what, are we going to bomb them all?
            So don’t say gop ...
        2. avva2012
          avva2012 7 December 2015 14: 04
          +2
          They will leave for Turkey and Iraq, then they will come again. I don’t know whether they are unlikely to be allowed to go there for a long time (treatment is not an expense). Imagine that individuals who can only shoot and cut their heads, will remain idle for at least six months. Having finished, they will begin to yearn for work. And here is a calm country, full of injustice: men in shorts walk, women with open faces, but you never know. The ideas of Wahhabism do not suggest such cynicism.
    2. Finches
      Finches 7 December 2015 07: 55
      +9
      As they say on the Internet: "The hawk is no longer a cake! " laughing

      But we will pay tribute to the old man, the experience of geopolitical games and his strategic flair is perfectly developed!
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 7 December 2015 08: 01
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        As they write on the Internet: "The hawk is no longer a cake!

        Take your time, there's another lady hawk there - Mrs. Clinton
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 December 2015 08: 13
          12
          Quote: sa-ag
          Quote: Finches
          As they write on the Internet: "The hawk is no longer a cake!

          Take your time, there's another lady hawk there - Mrs. Clinton



          She's not a hawk, she's a scavenger, worse.
        2. avva2012
          avva2012 7 December 2015 08: 23
          +3
          She is not a hawk. Coming from the horns, deer.
        3. Finches
          Finches 7 December 2015 08: 33
          +4
          Yes, there already cleaners with brooms go after her ... Sweep the sand! laughing
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 7 December 2015 08: 39
            +4
            Yes, here are a couple. Wife lesbian, husband saxophonist.
            1. Rimlianin
              Rimlianin 7 December 2015 23: 05
              +2
              You essentially have nothing to write about, why switch to a personality? Their personal life is neither yours nor ours.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 8 December 2015 06: 38
                +1
                They are not personalities. They are people because of whom, for example, a war can begin. Therefore, their personal life, both yours and our business. Ah, it’s written, essentially. Human addictions can influence their decisions.
                1. TanyaKar
                  TanyaKar 9 December 2015 07: 48
                  0
                  I support you completely in your answer to the Roman: "Being determines consciousness" .....
                  The morality of politicians who are at the helm of the country is not their own business ... So you can agree to the point that there is nothing wrong with the president, etc. ... This is their "private" business, their personal life ...
                  There is nothing worse than immoral people in the leadership of a country or power.
                  In our country, for example, 25-year-old seagulls - fawn come (by helicopter) to the regional regions and are received by local authorities at the level of federal ministers. Maybe their ancestors and "Rome was saved", but they are suitable only for roast ...
        4. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 7 December 2015 23: 05
          0
          Quote: sa-ag
          Quote: Finches
          As they write on the Internet: "The hawk is no longer a cake!

          Take your time, there's another lady hawk there - Mrs. Clinton

          Chicken she, not a hawk
          1. Rimlianin
            Rimlianin 7 December 2015 23: 08
            +2
            Well, well .. A man who has every chance of becoming the leader of a nuclear superpower, having an extensive network of military bases around the world and a world printing press ... - chicken ?! And what are you, dear? What kind of manner of writing in VO is not commentary in fact, but just stupidly hanging stamps, earning pluses? The minus is bold to you.
            1. TanyaKar
              TanyaKar 9 December 2015 08: 03
              0
              The Roman does not agree with you. You feel the follower and worthy student of Nadezhdin .... A very similar style in the statements .... The guys are expressed figuratively and have every right to express their point of view and determine their attitude and position towards people and citizens - politicians of other countries and even powers, which is now (especially) very unfriendly and Pharisee - America, aggressive towards Russia.
              Hitler, too, was in power for several years and crushed the whole of Europe under himself, but this does not prevent us and no one else from speaking about him impartially and with a grain of humor, "carefully" - you are our intelligent ...
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 7 December 2015 11: 41
        +2
        Quote: Finches

        But we will pay tribute to the old man, the experience of geopolitical games and his strategic flair is perfectly developed!

        And this is frightening - such people never say anything and don’t just do that, so they want to play more.
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 7 December 2015 09: 09
      +2
      "The Mummy Returns" ...
      1. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 7 December 2015 23: 11
        +2
        Not funny. I would wish our politicians the same firmness in upholding the interests of the country. Anyway, but you don’t understand, with your comment you insult millions of old people in our country? Or forever young?
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 8 December 2015 06: 42
          0
          Anyway, but you don’t understand, with your comment you insult millions of old people in our country? And what about the millions of old people in our country? You are confusing something. He is not an old man, but a politician who fiercely hates our country, including "millions of old people." He would really like us, all, to turn into radioactive ash. Therefore, mummy, he is. The same inhuman, dry and extremely dangerous S-thing.
          1. TanyaKar
            TanyaKar 9 December 2015 08: 21
            0
            The Roman hopeful is specially trying to bite and yap toward the political information spetsnaz.
            On any sites there are black sheep-hopes. Some kind of beef, little men in cases ...
            Such people will always have N-i-ya-ya-ya, otherwise it wouldn’t work out.
            Liberal, pseudo-intellectual provocateur-ghoul warmed up and paid for (or maybe sincerely free of charge - ideologically convinced) fighter of the "invisible" front and fund in defense of the US political elite.
    4. Vikings
      Vikings 7 December 2015 11: 20
      +1
      Hawk, strongly written. Rather, shabby Crow !!! C interrupt
      wing, and unsatisfied ambitions, claiming
      on the laurels of World Analytics and Predictor. And in fact
      le historical grievance for pubescent below baseboard
      Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth !!!
      With more than once!
      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 7 December 2015 23: 06
        +1
        Quote: Vikings
        Hawk, strongly written. Rather, shabby Crow !!! C interrupt
        wing, and unsatisfied ambitions, claiming
        on the laurels of World Analytics and Predictor. And in fact
        le historical grievance for pubescent below baseboard
        Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth !!!
        With more than once!

        Anything can be thought of Brzezinski, but such people as he developed a plan for the final liquidation of the USSR
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 8 December 2015 21: 32
        0
        Vikings

        Brzezinski, was a hawk, there is a hawk and will die a hawk. Very smart predator. Who knows who will be his victim next.

        Improvements in rhetoric towards the Russian Federation are most likely connected with the understanding that the US government is not able to fulfill the functions of a nationally oriented government. In other words, the United States, this is a resource in the hands of people with private interests. Only Russia shows nationally state priorities.

        It just came to the realization that only Russia can improve the situation in the USA for the better.

        The Russian government may take control of the international banking system.
        1. TanyaKar
          TanyaKar 9 December 2015 08: 28
          0
          So far in our country only one Finist-Clear Falcon is visible. Hope that the Russian eagles will soon learn to fly and kill the nests of state hawks.
    5. 222222
      222222 7 December 2015 12: 21
      -1
      .. Barak Huseynovich hurried in advance ??? "" US President Barack Obama, in a televised address to the nation, called the shooting of people in California a terrorist act and called on Congressmen to vote for the use of military force against the forces of Daesh "" "
    6. iouris
      iouris 7 December 2015 18: 07
      +1
      I’m afraid we don’t have these five years. Very soon the moment of truth will come: for example, the Turks will start to launch anti-aircraft missiles or begin a tank blitzkrieg.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 8 December 2015 21: 36
        0
        iouris

        Everything is fine. GDP works clearly without disruption. There should not be a third world.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 8 December 2015 22: 04
          0
          If All wars, revolutions and other destructive things are considered as a commercial project. As a very large commercial. The system works this way. Designers created a project, determined the costly budget part, determined the profit. Bank does not think about the immorality of the project gives money receives its interest. Just a jar, deeply spit, leads this project to human progress or kills the planet. The international financial system is not accountable to any state. And this is the universal evil.

          Brzezinski, and Co. They realize that if the system is not taken under control, the system will disfigure everyone, including itself. This system does not have people with names. It is both systemic and amorphous. And therefore it is not controlled.

          To begin to control finances, you need to have a strong country with an independent government. The USA does not fit this characteristic. China too. They do not want to contact, but they will provide support.

          Well, the Russian Federation remained, with GDP. Who else?
      2. TanyaKar
        TanyaKar 9 December 2015 08: 38
        0
        But don’t be afraid that you will be shaking with horror ... And when the moment of truth comes, then we will answer with the whole country ....
        And since victory is needed one at all, then the price does not stand ....
        Russians are not going to die standing or live on their knees. So, "The Russians don't give up!"
        Political dissidents, support me!
        Russia, like a Phoenix bird, will be reborn from even from the ashes.
        Falcons of Russia, WHERE are you ?! Answer me!
  2. arhitroll
    arhitroll 7 December 2015 06: 47
    +3
    And what do they go to reconciliation when the blood comes through the nose ...
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 7 December 2015 06: 52
    10
    this old jackal will never calm down ...
    1. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 7 December 2015 09: 26
      +5
      In my opinion, Brzezinski subtly hints that Russia has weakened.
      His serpentine nature has not changed.
      1. rubidiy
        rubidiy 7 December 2015 15: 36
        +2
        he hints directly that Turkey was ordered to shoot down a Russian plane by the United States. It directly hints that Russia should not rake the problems of the Middle East, as the author concluded, but, on the contrary, get out of the way. Like, we are all so cute and fluffy. Let's live in peace. Now ISIS will win (formally, of course) and disperse. You Russians are flying home, but we will not touch Assad. "I give you my honest noble word" (c) Shpak. :)
        And NATO will not be in Ukraine. Honestly. Everything you want.
        And if you don't get out, then ah-ay-ay you will be. Let's give a command, and the right people in Israel will provoke a war with Iran. All NATO, of course, will fit in, and there will be no Iran, which means that the "redistribution" will pass according to the American program as much as possible.
        1. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 7 December 2015 23: 07
          0
          Quote: rubidiy
          And NATO will not be in Ukraine. Honestly. Everything you want.

          Well, Finland still does not join NATO.
      2. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 7 December 2015 23: 17
        +2
        Russia has weakened, and is weakening every month. And our geopolitical games in Syria will not save the situation. The point is the economy and the standard of living of the population - we are falling. The outflow of capital is constantly increasing, the industry is practically lying. The share in the world market is negligible. What prospects can we talk about? We need a mobilization breakthrough, as in the 30s under Stalin. But with our government, which prioritizes the interests of fat cats, this is impossible in principle. So eat popcorn and comfort yourself with illusions.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 8 December 2015 21: 38
          0
          Rimlianin

          Go to the censor. Troll there.
        2. TanyaKar
          TanyaKar 9 December 2015 08: 50
          0
          It may have weakened, as you Roman writes, BUT the Russian falcons are in service, and the eagles have grown up and have learned to fly ...
          Let the Storm break out and cleanse the Ocean of Russian souls and persons ... Let the tea-bearing children run away from the Russian Land.
          So, ZHDEMS .... Clintonikha cannot be called a chicken in your opinion, but Russians are popcorn-eaters - is it possible, "fair" you are ours?
        3. TanyaKar
          TanyaKar 9 December 2015 17: 09
          0
          This is our Troll Roman. Looks like?
  4. tomcat117
    tomcat117 7 December 2015 06: 56
    +8
    The shriveled fantasies of the old senile, crawling indiscriminately without soap (like all Poles) without soap.
  5. avva2012
    avva2012 7 December 2015 06: 59
    +8
    Listen to Brzezinski, and do the opposite. This galosh, an ardent Russophobe. And, the author, made the absolutely correct conclusion at the end of the article.
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  6. izya top
    izya top 7 December 2015 07: 05
    +9
    Lord, how long all sorts of Spaniards live ...
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 7 December 2015 07: 27
      0
      So, they say, in order to live long, you need to do exercises in the morning. This subject, refutes scientists, he eats all his life of feces and nothing, cheerful, healthy. Hatred, it turns out, also extends Existence.
    2. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 7 December 2015 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: izya top
      Lord, how long all sorts of Spaniards live ...


      In Paradise these are not needed, but in hell and without him there are enough devils.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 7 December 2015 07: 21
    11
    The chaos in the region, arranged, by the way, by the West, will drag on, suck Moscow for a long time.. It is quite possible .. look what they are doing .. In Syria, in fact, there are Russia and a coalition of Western powers at the head of the United States .. At the same time, Russia supports Assad, the United States with allies of the "moderate opposition" type, which is on the side of ISIS .. But Here, which is typical, Russia is in Syria legally, at the request of the Syrian government, and what is the United States doing in Syria with the "comrades"? Nobody invited them there .. And Germany, is already going to fight in Syria .. Anyway, but in Syria, an obvious confrontation between Russia and the West .. "Cold", while ...
    1. Uzzy
      Uzzy 7 December 2015 10: 24
      +4
      parusnik catch the plus. It is, but it bothers me how long we can participate in this? Indeed, considerable problems are brewing inside the country, as a result of which the second 90s would not have happened. True, the author noted:
      In fact, he is clearly pushing Russia toward a new Afghanistan: he wants her to fight for “stability” in the Middle East along with the United States, and in fact - instead of the United States. The chaos in the region, arranged, by the way, by the West, will drag out, suck Moscow for a long time, and in such a situation, with the parallel expensive Ukrainian problem, the Kremlin will really have no choice but to get closer to the West

      I hope we’ve got it all, I really hope ...
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 8 December 2015 22: 33
      0
      parusnik

      Take the trouble to name names under the west. I will say in advance that you will not succeed.
      Because there are no names. But there is a complex of funded tasks of one planning direction, which are called under the conditional name "west".

      To stop a running process (chaos) it is necessary to stop the sources, which is extremely difficult to do. The performers are known, the customer is not understood.

      But there are always financiers. These guys are also not specific. They spread and concealed their degree of responsibility.

      But this nut (finance) has its own bolt. Which with left-hand thread and large diameter. So far, ISIS has been selling good business with oil smuggling. It is like trying to screw in that ring bolt. But if someone does not change his mind, then the bolt will be brazenly hammered without lubrication.
      1. TanyaKar
        TanyaKar 9 December 2015 09: 10
        0
        Good comment!
        It is alarming that customers and performers of Chaos may NOT be able to stop him when they suddenly really want to ...
        Chaos is uncontrollable and can go with a liberal approach to endless or nuclear chaos.
        And customers deeply sneeze on nuclear dust in the Middle East or in Europe.
        They will have to take loans for everyone to restore new territories. They will "compassionate" and "empathize" with the Middle East and European partners.
        That's how TanyaKar thinks so.
    3. TanyaKar
      TanyaKar 9 December 2015 08: 58
      0
      Yes, thank God for the time being almost "cold" opposition.
      TanyaKar already wrote that if WHAT, we will answer the whole country for everything and everyone will quickly see: Who is Who and why they are needed ...
      Figuratively speaking, Russia is being tested for "lice". And we have a lot of fleas ...
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 December 2015 07: 41
    +3
    The smoking-room is still alive and, as in the past, weaves international intrigues. The "peaceful" tone of this ardent Russophobe is alarming.
    1. bionik
      bionik 7 December 2015 08: 04
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Still smoking room
      He’s already under 90, but still there, the old stump.
  9. Riv
    Riv 7 December 2015 07: 54
    +2
    Grandfather is old already, speaks up. Do not pay attention to sclerotics.
  10. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 7 December 2015 07: 59
    -5
    Bullshit ........ bully
    1. Rimlianin
      Rimlianin 7 December 2015 23: 20
      +2
      Where is the delirium? Can't answer essentially?
      1. TanyaKar
        TanyaKar 9 December 2015 09: 36
        0
        I agree, I don't see much delirium. And if WHAT - suddenly, as TanyaKar wrote above, then the Middle East will have to swallow nuclear dust together with the Europeans - tolerant darlings ... And then credits will be given for the restoration of radiation sovereignty. If this is Bzezhinski's plan, then this is called "slamming" the door one last time before moving to another temporary space ... Let mankind remember at least that way and write it down in the history of the Earth. He is interested in having time to see all this. Everyone has a soul, BUT it has a minus sign or a plus sign. The war of the dark forces with the light forces is endless .... The cold war of the "eaten" and saturated with the "blood" of the unhuman race of people, gray hawks does not suit ... It costs nothing to incite and bring spiritual degradants and moral coves ... You can have a lot of money type. The globalists played and fell into excitement, which warmed up other forces ...
        Readiness number one, it has been heard for a long time, but for someone whispered ... It is time in our country to wake up from the excitement of many people and earn another thousand times for the rest of their lives ... Chaos is already in the brains of many citizens of our big country. When Chaos comes to the vastness of Russia, then everyone will have to swallow dust (in the words of our GDP) ...
  11. ImPerts
    ImPerts 7 December 2015 08: 06
    +3
    The path to US national security runs through Moscow
    Speech by Stephen F. Cohen, Professor at Princeton and New York Universities, at a meeting of the Commonwealth of San Francisco Club (adaptation of audio).

    “I am delighted to be here with you today. The further you get away from Washington and the mainstream media, the better people think of you!

    Some of you may have heard of our small group protesting against American politics from the very beginning of the Ukrainian crisis two years ago. For this we were rudely and derogatoryly called "Putin’s apologists, Putin’s useful idiots and Putin’s best American friends."

    Paris was supposed to change all this, but nothing of the kind happened to these people. Having opened the Internet in the morning, I saw that everything remained the same. Therefore, I will start by telling you a little about myself.

    To these accusations, I answer: "No, I am not like you, I am a patriot of American national security." And I was like that when I started studying Russia 50 years ago. I started in Kentucky, then Indiana University, and my friends will confirm that I have been doing this for many years. And during this time, I came to the conclusion, it does not matter now how or why, to the conclusion that the path to ensuring America's national security runs through Moscow. This means that the American president must have a partner in the Kremlin - not a friend, but a partner. This was true during the existence of the USSR, and it is true today ... "
    http://inosmi.ru/politic/20151206/234700489.html
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 8 December 2015 22: 43
      0
      ImPeretz

      Correctly. It’s just inexplicable why Russia is a partner.

      But the partner, and the rescuer.

      Try to understand why. And when you understand, then the anger at the Americans will pass.
  12. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 December 2015 08: 12
    +2
    With this vision of the situation, the Brzezinski hawk seems to be about to turn into a "dove".


    Better yet, he turned into dust. For his pass. Good life, he did no good to anyone. bully
  13. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 7 December 2015 08: 29
    0
    Old Pshek ferret.
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 7 December 2015 09: 07
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Old Pshek ferret.

      if only
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Pshek
      .....
  14. Basil50
    Basil50 7 December 2015 08: 44
    +1
    Any statement of such * Poles * always answers only them, internal * logic *, to search for something else and is tiring and not always justified. Maybe * the old man * is preparing for a meeting with * the Almighty *, so he draws up a memory of himself, wants to look decent. He still won’t tell the truth that he considers it necessary and will voice it or write it. This has nothing to do with logic, for it the main thing is its own interests.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 7 December 2015 08: 49
      0
      Maybe * the old man * is preparing to meet * the Almighty *
      For, him, clearly with the "supreme". Warm place "grandpa" is provided.
  15. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 7 December 2015 08: 51
    0
    That’s all it’s all about, I’m lighting the United States’s problems, and Russia should extinguish the flame. But it’s easier to work with the arsonist .. but so far it’s not working!
  16. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 7 December 2015 09: 09
    +1
    Are the partners talking about peace, want to recreate the Russia-NATO council? Keep an eye out, it means they want to bargain for a piece by non-military means, or they calm down, distract attention. They want to get in without soap ..., peace, chewing gum, we help the formation of the Ukrainian army, democracy in Belarus, we wish the destruction of nuclear weapons in the whole world (Moon has already stated). If we follow the lead, then the "peaceful missiles" will be already 450 km from Moscow.
  17. Avantageur
    Avantageur 7 December 2015 10: 10
    0
    Thank you, Lyakh Brzezinski, a parishioner of the synagogue, for the collapse of the union ... Otherwise, they still have fed Bush’s gmosh legs ...
  18. traktir64
    traktir64 7 December 2015 10: 14
    +2
    Lulls vigilance of Russia, the real situation is very tense. And they provoke us to check that we can.
  19. Turkir
    Turkir 7 December 2015 11: 21
    0
    In fact, he is clearly pushing Russia towards a new Afghanistan: he wants her to fight for "stability" in the Middle East along with the United States, and in fact - instead of the USA

    Brzezhinsky is annoyed by the stupidity of the US administration, which does not benefit from the current situation and does not see a line that should not be crossed.
    Brzezhinsky does not think or speak of any warming. Not his style.
    He is an enemy.
  20. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 7 December 2015 11: 22
    +1
    Hawk
    Rather, it’s just a cock.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 7 December 2015 12: 55
      0
      Quote: Ajent Cho
      Rather, it’s just a cock.


      A liqueur called "kanukuk" (cock on a tree stump) was produced in Estonia. The drink was so-so, but the peculiarity was that when the bottle was emptied and the cock remained on the stump at the bottom, it was worth pouring water to the top of the cock, and the liquor, although not completely, was restored.
      Sir-pan Brzezinski resembles a "kyanukuk", but the Ferryman on the Styx was waiting, and Hades is nervous. bully
  21. antiexpert
    antiexpert 7 December 2015 12: 28
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    there is an old and good rule in the subject: “a white man does not use a native against another white man, does not transmit modern weapons to him and does not teach him modern methods of battle”
    The village zbig, as Bush definitely called it, was precisely the one who violated this rule and wrote himself outcasts with the country.
  22. Kibl
    Kibl 7 December 2015 12: 54
    0
    Terrorism will never be eradicated, people will always have to live with it! It's scary but it’s realities. There will always be scumbags for whom fear will always live in people with their actions. They want to feel like creators of humanity, this is a psychic diagnosis and can not be cured !
  23. Petrik66
    Petrik66 7 December 2015 13: 27
    0
    Special Forces is not a panacea for all sores for Syria. 100 - 200 people, it is inexpressibly small. we are talking about a full-scale war with a motivated opponent, well equipped and having normal rear support. Turkey plays the same role for Syria as the Panki Gorge in Georgia, as well as Baku and Turkey for Chechens. rear base, camps, base of supply and rest, treatment of unfinished, etc. Georgia could not be bombed, nor was Turkey. They will depart, brush their feathers and begin to cut their heads again.
    A land operation is a matter of the near future. In Vietnam, the Americans first sent advisers, then equipment and instructors, as well as the units that these instructors "guarded", then special forces, then ... well, you know. Doesn't it look like anything? Find ten differences.
  24. garpastum75
    garpastum75 7 December 2015 15: 43
    0
    The old bastard sweeps nonsense about "some progress in relations", "convergence of interests", etc. That nobody has canceled the senile marasmus.
  25. Fat
    Fat 7 December 2015 15: 43
    0
    if these creatures began to praise us in something, this is an occasion to think about it. So somewhere they didn’t finish it. They gave up slack. You need to push from all possible sides and do not stop
  26. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 7 December 2015 16: 53
    +1
    What can I say: ... old nidus felt dichlorvos
  27. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 7 December 2015 17: 56
    0
    These Hogwarts graduates hold magical sessions right in front of their eyes without their subsequent exposure.

    Crimeans voted to reunite with Russia - everything seems to be clear - but, it turned out, only to us. With a flick of the hand, the referendum turns laughing in voting at gunpoints of 100500 Russian divisions.

    The Donetsk people did not want to live in the same company with the clearly illegal unlimited huntoids, but it turns out, "the state has the right to use force"that is, it's okay to bomb civilians with phosphorus rockets. Magic!

    The legitimate Assad legitimately asked for help against head cutters - and here, it turns out, magic. Russia must bomb Assad. am

    The Turks shot down a Russian plane in Syrian airspace, and even shot the pilot - "Turkogans have the right to protect their airspace". Wonders!

    Only all this magic is in fact rotten. The tricks of the illusionist-loser, which the audience unmask in chorus.
  28. meandr51
    meandr51 25 December 2015 17: 11
    0
    Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
    Quote: rubidiy
    And NATO will not be in Ukraine. Honestly. Everything you want.

    Well, Finland still does not join NATO.


    She entered what did not enter ... And she does not care, and to us. For us, it is the same as Estonia, although the latter is also in NATO. But Ukraine, Belarus is a completely different matter. Here the strategic alignment is changing. In all respects, these are more dangerous countries for us if they become open opponents.