Air defense forces in Kamchatka replenished with six Pantsir-S complexes

The air defense units of the Eastern District of Kamchatka received six “Pantsir-S” air defense missiles, reports RIA News message of the representative of the TSO Alexander Gordeev.

“Pantsir-S” is a Russian ground-based self-propelled anti-aircraft missile-gun complex (ZRPK). It is intended for short-range protection of civilian and military targets (including long-range air defense systems) from all modern means of air attack. The complex can also protect the defended object from various threats. It is used for air defense of the most important small-sized military and industrial facilities, units and formations of ground forces, as well as for strengthening air defense forces at low and extremely low altitudes from massive air strikes. ”- recalled Gordeev.

According to him, “the main feature of the complex is that in a matter of seconds it can detect and destroy any aircraft, helicopter, drone, guided bombs or enemy ballistic missiles.”

The officer noted that in the summer of this year, the air defense units in Kamchatka took to combat duty on the C-400 air defense system, which had been replaced by C-300.

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[alex-s]

Interestingly, and cruise missiles can shoot down?

[Dembel77]

This is a universal weapon. It can work for any purpose. Including ground. Of course with skillful handling. The defense is getting stronger and it pleases.

[crazyrom]

Nightmare, according to the icon (2) the sleeve flies away with the bullet ...

[Falcon]

Quote: alex-s

Interestingly, and cruise missiles can shoot down?

Designed for air defense of small-sized military and administrative-industrial facilities and areas from aircraft, helicopters, cruise missiles and high-precision weapons, guided aerial bombs and remotely piloted vehicles, as well as to strengthen air defense groupings when repelling massive air attack strikes and ensuring the destruction of lightly armored objects.

[i80186]

Quote: alex-s

Interestingly, and cruise missiles can shoot down?

This is just the main goal. By 2017, they promise to train the ballistic goals as well.

[swan]

Quote: alex-s

Interestingly, and cruise missiles can shoot down?

In fact yes.
But if you look at the characteristics. Well, dream up, well, cleanly, for example, a tomahawk flies.
The tomahawk is quite slow (3-5 times slower than the shell can), but it flies above the surface. Here we are looking at the capabilities of the 30-36km radar. But this is hardly near the ground? After all, if you google what the horizon is (not a TV), then it turns out, purely from the point of view of geometry, in order to see a low flying (not crawling) target at a distance of 30 km, you need to climb to a height of 50 m (15-storey building). Otherwise, you will have to "shine" through the earthly firmament.
Well i.e. for 30km of his own radar, he will not be able to detect a tomahawk.
If we assume that our own radar is at a height of 4m (with a margin), then the range will be 7-8km. And this is if we assume that the earth is a geometric ball. Without hills, forests and even dunes.
In short, there is very little time for reaction and aiming. Especially if the rocket flies exactly where the shell, and not past).

If the Shell will not use its own radar (it seems to be able to), then most likely there will be more powerful means in such an integrated air defense network (S-300-350-400).
And if we take into account the radius of action of the shell, then giving it targets from "adult" radars is simply not interesting. Imagine that the rocket is flying, you have determined its trajectory and you see that it will soon enter the radius of the shell (20 km). You give the shell a target designation, but then the missile changes its course and does not enter the range of action (even if it partially passes through the zone, it still takes time to launch and "catch up").
There may already be no time left to reassign a target to another complex.

In general, I'm not special. But logically, it’s impossible to bring down serious CRs with shells.

[NEXUS]

Quote: kugu

If the Shell will not use its own radar (it seems to be able to), then most likely there will be more powerful means in such an integrated air defense network (S-300-350-400).

As a rule, the Shells work in tandem with C-300 / 350 / 400, since the C-300 / 350 / 400 complexes have restrictions on the smallest distance to the target. It is this zone, at the near approaches, that is covered by the Shell.

[Bongo]

Quote: NEXUS

As a rule, the Shells work in tandem with C-300 / 350 / 400, since the C-300 / 350 / 400 complexes have restrictions on the smallest distance to the target. It is this zone, at the near approaches, that is covered by the Shell.

Andrey, you are in many ways right But I will take the liberty of correcting you a little.
At present, S-300Ps are usually not covered by anything, except for "cover" large-caliber DShK machine guns in the back of "Kamaz" or "Ural" and MANPADS.
The medium-range air defense system C-350 has not yet been adopted. The end of his test is scheduled for the end of 2015. In reality, in the best situation, he can enter the troops only through the 2-3 of the year.
And the rest is all right.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Bongo

At present, S-300Ps are usually not covered by anything, except for "cover" large-caliber DShK machine guns in the back of "Kamaz" or "Ural" and MANPADS.

Here I completely agree with you, Sergey, the Shells have just begun to enter the troops and are desperately lacking. But it seems that the Tunguska air defense system is being modernized. Maybe this will fix the situation a little.

[Bongo]

Quote: NEXUS

ZPRK Tunguska. Perhaps this will fix the situation a little.

ZRPK "Tunguska" - this is the air defense systems of the Ground Forces. They are not in the anti-aircraft missile units of the Aerospace Forces.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Bongo

ZRPK "Tunguska" - this is the air defense systems of the Ground Forces. They are not in the anti-aircraft missile units of the Aerospace Forces.

I know this. But if in all conscience, then Tunguska is better than MANPADS or DShK. And to me this moment, frankly, I do not understand. Why not "attach" Tunguska behind the S-300 complexes, for a while, until all divisions of air defense systems are equipped S-300/400 Shells.

[Bongo]

Quote: NEXUS

This is known to me. But in all honesty, Tunguska is better than MANPADS or DShKs.

Of course, you should not even compare!

Quote: NEXUS

Why not "attach" the Tunguska to the S-300 complexes, for a while, until all divisions of the S-300/400 air defense missile systems are equipped with Armor.

The fact is that there is clearly not enough Tungusok in the air defense units of the ground forces. Especially in the Eastern Military District. Here we still operate "Shilki", as well as very worn-out air defense systems "Osa" and "Strela-10", the production of missiles for which was discontinued more than 20 years ago. There were still “Cubes” before, but they were already written off. Another trend is observed. Not so long ago, several brigades of military S-300V and Buk were transferred to the Air Defense Forces. Not from a good life, of course, this is due to the decommissioning of the early S-300Ps and the need to replace them with something.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Bongo

Here we still operate "Shilki"

ZSU Shilka are trying to modernize ... albeit an old "apparatus" , but even against armored personnel carriers in Syria (if sclerosis does not change) it works very successfully. But the problem of this ZSU is weak armor protection.

[Bongo]

Quote: NEXUS

ZSU Shika are trying to modernize ... albeit an old "apparatus"

Not for the Russian army, these are offers for foreign customers. They will leave soon with us.

[Falcon]

Quote: kugu

Here we are looking at the capabilities of the 30-36km radar. But this is hardly near the ground? After all, if you google what the horizon is (not a TV), then it turns out, purely from the point of view of geometry, in order to see a low flying (not crawling) target at a distance of 30 km, you need to climb to a height of 50 m (15-storey building). Otherwise, you will have to "shine" through the earthly firmament.
Well i.e. for 30km of his own radar, he will not be able to detect a tomahawk.

The reasoning is correct - but the conclusion is not entirely.

Tomahawk is not crawling on the ground. Although it flies low, but still not quite. Depends on the terrain. Altitude may be 50-100m. those. and a decent horizon.

[swan]

Quote: Falcon

The reasoning is correct - but the conclusion is not entirely.

Tomahawk is not crawling on the ground. Although it flies low, but still not quite. Depends on the terrain. Altitude may be 50-100m. those. and a decent horizon.

I agree, the radio horizon is much further, even if the target is at 50m. But, it seems to me, most of it will just eat the relief.
He works against both the hunter and the victim)
But straight 7-8km of course is unlikely to be, most likely, more.

[NEXUS]

Quote: alex-s

Interestingly, and cruise missiles can shoot down?

In fact, the Pantsir-S complex was created specifically for the interception of the Kyrgyz Republic.

[Lord of the Sith]

It was they who were set up to cover the S-400 regiment (three divisions instead of two, as everywhere), 2 armor per division. They arrived late, I thought they immediately went bundled with the S-400 in the summer.

[polite people]

This is so that China and Japan remember us and do not relax. And they knew that we would not give a piece of our Russian land to anyone.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: polite people

This is to China and Japan

Open the map and see where Kamchatka and where China

[Amurets]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Open the map and see where Kamchatka and where China

Well, people do not look at the scale of the maps, or they think that 2 versts in the West are equal to 200 vests in the Far East. We have missiles flying longer and machine guns for 20 versts.

[Gandelman]

It looks like some kind of terminator, awesome. and on the enemy infantry can work?

[Falcon]

Quote: Gandelman

It looks like some kind of terminator, awesome. and on the enemy infantry can work?

Of course - it is universal

[vkl-47]

if only in manual mode anti-aircraft guns.

[Falcon]

Quote: vkl-47

if only in manual mode anti-aircraft guns.

Radio command missile guidance from him.
I think it’s quite possible with a rocket

[sa-zz]

Quote: Gandelman

and on the enemy infantry can work?

even for tanks, even for planes, for all purposes representing a threat to the territory of the Russian Federation and its allies.

[Svarog5570]

correctly you need to fully re-equip our army with modern technology

[TT62]

About the ballistic missile, of course, "bent", but to get into the warhead on the final trajectory will certainly be able to. Hit, and perhaps slightly change the accuracy of this warhead.

[dchegrinec]

On the Aleutian Islands, the Americans are either settled .. Whoever flies there! So there is someone to defend from there! Everywhere robbers and bandits threaten socialist property!

[Bongo]

The officer noted that in the summer of this year, the air defense units in Kamchatka took to combat duty on the C-400 air defense system, which had been replaced by C-300.

As far as I know, the process of placing the S-400 on the DB was somewhat delayed. Of the three S-400 missile launchers deployed near Vilyuchinsk in September 2015, only one started carrying a full-fledged database in parallel with the S-300PS (pictured). Most likely, the Pantsir-C1 complexes will cover the police with long-range S-400s from attacks from low altitudes.

[Zomanus]

Kamchatka is not the Kuril Islands.
Here it would stick and air defense and FFP.
And the armor in Kamchatka will cover the C-400,
which were deployed there earlier.

[amba balamut 77]

From air defense we have: S-400, S-300, now there are Armor, in Yelizovo are MiG-31s. They promise to send the Su-30.

[atamankko]

But Japan is not worried?

[amba balamut 77]

And what do we care about her diarrhea.

[Al_oriso]

As I understand it, the latest weapons should be kept secret.
If such air defense systems are on public display, then what about the latest developments!

[nik1321]

an interesting thing is the carapace - but one thing is bad, the range is small of course .. it would be nice to try to use unmanned aerial vehicles (if you need to develop it) as a means of detection and guidance for several shells at once .. like for artillery, target illumination and its exact coordinates. Of course I'm not special in these matters, but as a thought, why not.

[Gunther]

kugu Quote:
Generally yes. But if you look at the characteristics. Well dream up, well, clean, for example, a tomahawk flies. The tomahawk is quite slow (3-5 times slower than the shell can), but it flies over the surface. Here we are looking at the capabilities of the 30-36km radar. But this is hardly near the ground? After all, if you google what the horizon is (not a TV), it turns out, purely from the point of view of geometry, in order to see a low flying (not crawling) target at a distance of 30 km, you need to climb to a height of 50 m (15 storey building). Otherwise, you will have to "shine" through the earth's firmament. for 30 km of its own radar, he t

Fantasy is good)))
“Shell-C1” can work both independently and in joint combat mode and is part of the hierarchical structure of the mixed group with the obligatory submission to the higher KP group. Depending on the composition of the grouping and the task to be solved, the KP of the anti-aircraft missile brigade (group), the anti-aircraft missile regiment, the anti-aircraft missile battalion of the long-range (medium) range system, and the RTV commando can act as a higher command post.
All complexes are in constant interaction with each other and if several complexes form a battery, then one of them will automatically become a command post. The command machine computer makes all decisions and passes directions to others. First of all, it is necessary for tracking and destroying targets. The command center distributes the targets between the complexes, or if the target alone orders the destruction to that complex, which is located in a more favorable position at the time of the enemy attack.
For firing at ground targets and targets, flying at extremely low altitudes, uses an optical electronic system (ECO) tracking targets and missiles. ECO is located at autonomous optical post (AOP), which allows you to direct the optical axis of the ECO according to the signals of the central computing system (CVS) to the target in the range of angles: azimuth -90 °, elevation - from -5 ° to + 82 °. The ECO allows additional target search according to target designation data from the central computer and automatic target capture for auto tracking.
Auto tracking range (with a meteorological range of 10 km) is:
F-16 aircraft - 17-26km;
PRR HARM - 13-15km;
KR ALCM - 11-14km.
http://dokwar.ru/publ/vooruzhenie/pvo_i_rvsn/zenitnyj_raketno_pushechnyj_komplek
s_zrpk_pancir_s1/16-1-0-186
PS
Disassembled several years ago the shortcomings of the complex on the basis of the report "Assessment of the characteristics of the Pantsir-C1 air defense missile system", since then the designers have corrected the shortcomings)))

[prorab_ak]

According to him, “the main feature of the complex is that in a matter of seconds it can detect and destroy any aircraft, helicopter, drones, guided air bombs or enemy ballistic missiles”
Strongly said .... about ballistic missiles ... and these are the words of the representative of the Ministry of Defense. Mdaaa ....