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Azerbaijan. With whom and against whom will we be friends?

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In the light of recent events, we became interested in even those states that were always in the shadow. Syria, Iran, Turkey, Russia, Armenia ... All but one of them are mentioned in the comments. Namely, Azerbaijan. But this is a state with 9-million population. With a developed economy. A state with large reserves of oil and gas. And in addition to the whole state, 90% of the population of which are Shiite Muslims. In the Middle East, this is an important aspect.


So, regardless of our attitude to this country, it is necessary to consider the internal situation there. Soberly. If possible without categorical ratings. We need to understand what awaits us from this side. What can we expect from the politicians of Azerbaijan. Immediately answer the skepticism of some readers. It seems that Azerbaijan is too tied to Russia economically to become an unfriendly state. As life has shown, economic relations are not always at the head of politics. It also happens that politics dominates the economy. We are just now seeing in all its glory and with special effects.

So, what is Azerbaijan today? A secular state with a fairly high standard of living. Especially when compared with other former Soviet republics. Although the growth rate of the economy today has slowed down compared to the beginning of the 2000-x, but still quite high.

Exports mainly consist of hydrocarbons. Almost 90%. But there is still cotton, machinery, food. Imports - almost everything except hydrocarbons. Moreover, exports are several times higher than imports. In short, a country of moderate means. Focused mainly on the export of natural resources. But providing itself with products of agriculture, engineering, chemical industry.

Much more interesting internal processes. The processes that occur in people's lives. How does society and the consciousness of people. This is a little more serious.

After the collapse of the USSR, Azerbaijan, like other republics, lost its ideological core. Communist education was dismissed, and other organizations and other values ​​took over.

But, unlike other post-Soviet republics, religious organizations very quickly occupied an ideological niche. Fortunately, this did not happen in Russia. Islam and Islamist organizations have engaged in literally everything in Azerbaijan. Starting from the organization of Islamic schools and ending with the creation of Muslim medical centers. And the prices in these organizations were often several times lower than in state or private ones.

Slowly, as if in passing, Islamic organizations have become not only the spread of centers of religion, but also in the ideological centers. People came to the mosque, as once in the clubs and palaces of culture.

It cannot be said that the government did not see the rise of Islam. Seen perfectly. She even tried to oppose this reinforcement. Heydar Aliyev at a meeting of the Milli Majlis even okorotil Islamic preacher, when he read verses from the Koran.

However, the government lost the fight. And soon the people began to pray in mosques. And the former party activists turned into ardent preachers of the ideas of Islam. Even obvious provocation of power in relation to the Islamists did not help. Islam won.

In a huge number of mosques began to be built. Donated to this construction, not only ordinary people, but also the oligarchs. Mosques appeared like mushrooms after rain. Even in places where they have never been. In addition, they began to revive the cult of the religious righteous. They began to restore the mazars. There are places of worship.

The next step in the spread of Islam, I would call the appearance of Wahhabis on the streets of Azerbaijani cities. It's easy to distinguish them. Bearded young men in short pants. And among them mullahs began to wear very revealing exactly the same clothes as their Iranian counterparts.

This appearance gave a signal to intelligent people to understand the simple truth. Wahhabis supported the followers of Imam Ali from Iran. Especially in the southern regions of Azerbaijan.

But Sunni Azerbaijan received nourishment from abroad. If you look at the mosques of Ganzhi, Nakhichevan, Yevlakh, it will become clear that it could not do without foreign money.

And then something happened that was supposed to happen. The majority of Muslims, as well, and most of the representatives of other religions previously not particularly interested surahs of the Qur'an, began to scrutinize it. And it turned out that much of what Islam says is completely alien to modern society. The commandments of Allah are forgotten (and they are not different from Christian ones). The state, instead of living according to Islam, lives according to some completely wild (from the point of view of Islam) laws.

Today, mosques are mostly young. Educated, active, but not found justice. In this, by the way, some religious leaders see the reason for the departure of their entire families to Syria. People want to live in Islam. Among muslims And even the war does not scare them.

To summarize what I wrote above, it turns out quite an interesting picture. Currently, Azerbaijan is turning into an Islamic state. It is Islamic. So far, Islam has not become a political force. There is no leader there capable of raising Muslims to the political struggle. But it should appear. And then the Muslims will win the election. Win the state.

And the existing authorities have almost no levers of pressure. The social crisis and the absence of a clear and understandable state ideology do not contribute to the love of power. And to this should be added a huge number of young, but received a good Muslim education abroad, preachers.

But the main question, which is now of interest to the Russians, still sounds different. Whose side will Azerbaijan stand in in the Russia-Turkey conflict? Will Erdogan manage to incline the country's leaders to an alliance against Russia? How will the Karabakh crisis develop?

It seems to me, no economic relations with Turkey, no contracts and agreements will not be able to make Abulfaz Aliyev oppose nascent Sparky Russia - Iran. Rather, the people support the cause, even if purely political, that union. So Islam is our ally today.

Pure Middle Eastern alignment. Turks and Azeris are actually one people. But the Turks are mostly Sunni, and the Azeris are Shiites. In the East, this is almost enough for some disagreements, as the Syrian events have shown. Shiite Iran, a neighbor, and a good one, by the way, for Azerbaijan is today Russia's ally. Yes, even what.

It turns out an interesting position. Azerbaijan is closer to Turkey. Religious - to Iran. Then dots and desire to get acquainted with the results of the visit of Turkish Prime Minister Davutoglu to Azerbaijan.

The media has leaked information that Davutoglu will discuss not only increase energy supplies from Azerbaijan, but also address the issues of the Karabakh conflict.

Yes, and Erdogan made statements on this topic. And he allowed himself sharp remarks against the Armenians. An attempt to "splash gasoline on old coals"? We'll see.

But most likely, the crisis in Karabakh will remain in a “frozen” state. Under the conditions of military confrontation, no one would risk starting his "little war". Too great danger of falling under the distribution between the high and mighty.

But in general, Azerbaijan is actually standing in front of the grandiose changes. The Islamic party is really created there. Although not registered. What for? The main thing is that she has more and more supporters. What will happen next, time will tell.

In general, the choice is not very. The small country is being drawn by the Turks into large showdowns as an ally. Do we need it for Azerbaijanis? Which, incidentally, is not too pleased with today's leadership. In any case, they have a choice.
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  1. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 3 December 2015 07: 09 New
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    Aliyev is cunning and pragmatic (which is basically the same thing), therefore he has no reason to get involved in any sorting out, reigning calmly and comfortably in his specific principality by his own laws.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 December 2015 07: 19 New
      +2
      A small country is drawn into a big showdown by the Turks as an ally. Is it necessary for Azerbaijanis? Which, incidentally, are not so satisfied with today's leadership.
      .Azerbaijan-Turkey-Armenia-Russia ... a dangerous game can turn out.
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        1. aktanir
          aktanir 3 December 2015 08: 31 New
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          The real ally in the local neighborhood is only Armenia. This is the only truly friendly state on the territory of which our military bases operate, and this already says a lot. The same ally is Kyrgyzstan. The rest - Belarus, Kazakhstan - are purely nominal friends and, for the most part, economic partners who are trying to balance, first of all, based on their own interests. For Russia, while Nazarbayev and Lukashenko are PERSONALLY not threatened, they will not be cut. Azerbaijan in this structure is even further, Aliyev is trying to get along with us only for various economic reasons. There is no need to talk about Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan at all. There, only old people remember the former greatness of the USSR, and young people are fully educated in other ideas alien to Russians. Russia does not have powerful friends and allies, there are only a couple of friendly countries that we ourselves have to support.
          1. Volganin
            Volganin 3 December 2015 08: 47 New
            -2
            What about China?
            1. 0255
              0255 3 December 2015 10: 52 New
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              Quote: Volganin
              What about China?

              “Awesome” ally, drawing on maps his and Russian borders as follows:
              1. Turkir
                Turkir 3 December 2015 11: 31 New
                +7
                The text is a preliminary picture of the map you published, http://clubvi.ru/news/2015/06/20/ord%204/index.htm -
                If under the auspices of the New Horde - The Eurasian Union does not do this, then by transferring strategic borders outside the national territory, peacefully mastering the New Economic Belt silk the way, the political map of Asia for the 100th anniversary of the PRC - the deadline for the fulfillment of the "Chinese Dream" - will to look So -

                Tell me what does China have to do with this map?
                After all, you claim that China issued this card.
                Eurasian Union - a new horde? An interesting source.
              2. good7
                good7 3 December 2015 12: 00 New
                +1
                Let them start from Central Asia, and then we'll see radish horseradish not sweeter!
          2. good7
            good7 3 December 2015 09: 06 New
            +2
            I completely agree, but about Kyrgyzstan it differs from Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, only the proximity to China and its enormous influence on them, which is, in principle, excellent.
            1. KG_patriot_last
              KG_patriot_last 3 December 2015 16: 52 New
              0
              Tell me more about China’s influence? laughing
          3. Yereke
            Yereke 3 December 2015 11: 35 New
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            yeah, a real one that nearly joined the EU 2 years ago .. Armenians are cunning as Jews, who are stronger than that and lick one place
            1. Kaiten
              Kaiten 3 December 2015 18: 32 New
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              Quote: Ereke
              yeah, a real one that nearly joined the EU 2 years ago .. Armenians are cunning as Jews, who are stronger than that and lick one place

              Quiet, shah, don't be guilty. Shaw-wi, talk like that. We are the most naive and trusting nagod. We Russians do not deceive each other ...
          4. Michael.
            Michael. 3 December 2015 13: 53 New
            +8
            Dear Armenians, it’s not enough. But this is not an indicator. In the USSR, Armenia was the smallest Republic. However, it gave the country Five Marshals and Admirals. Designer of the best Fighters in the world. People’s Commissars of Scientists and others. And the current Admiral of the Pacific Fleet is an Armenian. The Armenian is sitting in the Parliament and Advisor to the President of the Country, Chelengarov. And for Russians and Russia we are the best brothers and friends who will never raise their hands on their brothers.
          5. SIMM
            SIMM 3 December 2015 16: 51 New
            +1
            Absolutely true!
            Yes, and we will be honest, their help (military) for us is that Usain Bolt blow in the back for speed.)))
            And our allies are always the same Red Army and Navy!
          6. xtur
            xtur 5 December 2015 19: 33 New
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            > But most likely, the crisis in Karabakh will remain in a "frozen" state. In the conditions of military confrontation, no one will risk starting their "little war." The danger is too great to fall under the distribution between the powers that be.

            I came across an article on the network in which the English think tank believed that the state of Azerbaijan has no future in its current form. About half of the population are Iranian-speaking peoples - Avars, Lezghins, Talysh. That is, this state is much more unstable in its internal state than Georgia itself.
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        3. atalef
          atalef 3 December 2015 11: 53 New
          +9
          Quote: good7
          Azerbaijanis will never go against the Turks, and Wahabbits from Iran? It is interesting that the author smokes in Saudi Arabia, probably according to his logic, the Alawites. Found damn allies!

          The next step in the spread of Islam, I would call the appearance of Wahhabis on the streets of Azerbaijani cities. It's easy to distinguish them. Bearded young men in short pants. And among them mullahs began to wear very revealing exactly the same clothes as their Iranian counterparts.

          This appearance gave a signal to smart people to understand a simple truth. Wahhabis are supported by followers of Imam Ali from Iran. Especially in the southern regions of Azerbaijan

          Yes, I would say the same statement about the connection between Wahhabis and Shiites - at least controversial, but in general it’s simply not real.
          As for the otnalnoe, there is nothing to say. Azerbaijan is mentally unambiguously closer to Turkey and the presence of the majority of Shiites in Azerbaijan does not change the essence.
          maybe in Azerbaijan it’s Shiism-light, and I’m the language of genes (this is about relations with Turkey) - you won’t be able to crush a finger.
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 3 December 2015 16: 54 New
            +1
            Azerbaijan is mentally definitely closer to Turkey
            - I absolutely agree here. There is no arguing against the facts.
        4. Sharikov.P.P
          Sharikov.P.P 3 December 2015 11: 53 New
          0
          Well, a man made a mistake, confused Abulfaz Elchibey with Ilham Aliyev, equalized Shiites with Wahhabis, but in general the article is interesting. In fact, many Shiites accept Wahhabism, in any case, there are a lot of them in Baku - a few dozen can be found in a day. As for Iran, the attitude towards him is ambivalent among Azerbaijanis: many people envy about advanced medicine, go there for treatment, but they hate Iran for not participating in the blockade of Armenia.
      2. andre
        andre 3 December 2015 09: 09 New
        +5
        The authors are on the opposite side. I communicate a lot with Azeris. So they say that Aliev resisted, but lost, and now there are a lot of people in the government and in the business of the Kurds. How will he and the Turks get along or not? Or maybe the money doesn't smell? The history of the near future will show.
    2. yushch
      yushch 3 December 2015 08: 42 New
      0
      I would very much like to hear the opinion of our members of the forum from sunny Azerbaijan. hi
      1. cap
        cap 3 December 2015 08: 50 New
        +2
        I passed by here.
        I want to notice the Turks no. Iran yes. The script is Reza which is Pahlavi. hi
      2. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 3 December 2015 11: 51 New
        +2
        The level of the article below the baseboard ...
      3. xetai9977
        xetai9977 3 December 2015 12: 10 New
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        Let me speak. For the vast majority of Azerbaijanis, fanaticism is alien. Very many do not even know whether they are Sunnis or Shiites. Yes, there are religious people, but they clearly do not make the weather in the country. As for Turkey, we do not hide the fact that Turkey is a country close to us in language and mentality. 80% of the words we share. And the majority of Azerbaijanis do not have friendly feelings towards Iran because of South Azerbaijan. There, our fellow tribesmen are systematically insulted on a national basis. At least 25 million Turkic (they call themselves Turks, not Azerbaijanis), the population does not have the opportunity to learn their own language. We want to have good neighborly friendly relations with Russia.
      4. Libra
        Libra 3 December 2015 20: 41 New
        +2
        They had a war there somewhere in the 80s, many diasporas moved to Russia, one of them was in the Tyumen region, we were familiar with them in childhood, we played, in general, normal guys, of course there is arrogance, but they all respected openness among the Slavs, nevertheless, the Slavs are the best people in terms of qualities - strong, strong-willed and open, therefore all peoples are drawn to it when they live nearby, now the grown up Azerbaijanis periodically return there to visit relatives and adjust the brains of the locals.
    3. 97110
      97110 3 December 2015 09: 07 New
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      Quote: Andryukha G
      calmly and comfortably in his specific principality

      Between Turkey and Iran, between Russia and the USA? With oil and gas? With the lack of democracy (power of the American people) in the necessary volume? Do you call this "calm and comfortable"? Type of Yanukovych. Why didn’t it reign "calmly and comfortably"?
      1. bionik
        bionik 3 December 2015 18: 36 New
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        Quote: Volganin
        What about China?

        Why are they fighting with us? They’re already in the Far East, for example, their kolkozniks take two or three crops on our shed, then even the weed doesn’t grow.
  2. zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 3 December 2015 07: 09 New
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    A state with large reserves of oil and gas. And in addition to everything, the state, 90% of the population of which are Shiite Muslims.

    It is at least strange to compare Azerbaijani Muslims with followers of a prophet from Middle Eastern countries, Central Asia, or even our North Caucasus. Formally, most Azerbaijanis certainly consider themselves Muslims, but in practice Azerbaijan is a secular state where the mullahs do not have real power. And the Azerbaijanis are rare pragmatists and for the sake of trading profits they easily violate the prohibitions of the Koran.
    1. sa-zz
      sa-zz 3 December 2015 07: 46 New
      +3
      It’s at least strange to compare Azerbaijani Muslims with the followers of the prophet

      Nothing strange. Time does not stand still, we see how the situation can radically change in a year.
      The party is not registered, therefore it is difficult to say how many people will support it in the event of a confrontation with the government (and many are not satisfied with the government). The tendency for the development of religious institutions is very great; young people are brought up in mosques, etc.
    2. cniza
      cniza 3 December 2015 08: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: zyablik.olga
      [And Azerbaijanis are rare pragmatists and for the sake of trading profit, they easily violate the Koran’s prohibitions.


      You are right at the moment, but we have an example of Ukraine, when a bunch of scumbags turned everything upside down. We need to learn and not make similar mistakes.
    3. 97110
      97110 3 December 2015 09: 13 New
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      Quote: zyablik.olga
      It’s at least strange to compare Azerbaijani Muslims with the followers of the prophet

      Those Azerbaijanis who dig the earth (not literally) all over Russia in order to make a profit are really strange. But are all the inhabitants of Azerbaijan so similar to them? And Ilyinsky-Podomsky in Baku and Sumgait. The article is serious, the view on the situation is new - for me, ess-no.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 3 December 2015 13: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: 97110
        The article is serious, the view on the situation is new - for me, ess-no.

        article of a little schoolboy. How was this article generally missed here.
        Level Wahhabis and Shiites))))) The author smoked when he wrote))
  3. Aksakal_07
    Aksakal_07 3 December 2015 07: 13 New
    +4
    Much will depend on the position of the Azerbaijani diaspora in Russia.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 December 2015 07: 13 New
    +4
    Which, incidentally, are not so satisfied with today's leadership. In any case, they have a choice.


    Another time bomb.
  5. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 3 December 2015 07: 15 New
    +4
    Wah, let the Azerbaijanis understand all this themselves, to me deeply parallel to what they have there.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 3 December 2015 07: 46 New
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Wah yes let

      However, I agree that I didn’t hear anything about the terrorists of Azerbaijanis ... I almost knotted my fingers in a knot while I printed the name .. laughing It’s a pity that it’s not a politically correct simple folk az .. laughing
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 3 December 2015 13: 08 New
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        Quote: afdjhbn67
        However, I agree that I didn’t hear about terrorists of Azerbaijanis ...,

        This is the trouble of the majority of the population of Russia. If you do not know something, then you think this is not.
        More than 1000 Azerbaijanis are fighting in Syria.
        In Afghanistan, many field commanders of Azerbaijanis.
        Azerbaijanis are fighting in the ranks of Hezbollah.
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        It’s a pity that it’s not a politically correct simple folk az ..

        So write Azerbaijan and it does not offend us. Attention is not Azerbaijanis, but Azerbaijan.
      2. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 4 December 2015 00: 41 New
        -1
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        However, I agree that I haven’t heard anything about the terrorists of Azerbaijanis for a while

        03/12/2015 16:15
        http://www.rosbalt.ru/exussr/2015/12/03/1467762.html
        From whom is Azerbaijan being "cleaned up"?
        It is unlikely that anyone outside of Azerbaijan would know about the presence of a village called Nardaran in the republic if four members of the "extremist group" had not been killed here a few days ago and two law enforcement officials had not died. There were also wounded in Nardaran.

        The reason for the bloody massacre, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Prosecutor General’s Office of Azerbaijan, was the threat of a change in the constitutional order from the movement "Muslim Unity." According to the information of the above structures, this movement aimed at "seizing power and creating a religious state governed by Sharia law."
        More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/exussr/2015/12/03/1467762.html
    2. 97110
      97110 3 December 2015 09: 20 New
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      me deep in parallel

      It wouldn’t work out perpendicular to something. We are regularly excited about Pshekoshprot, Ukroameri Americans, and other enemy states. And in parallel to countries - potential allies. Okay, with the Warsaw Pact states, Ukraine - they themselves hardly survived then. But now the country got into a fight - we must look for allies. Azerbaijanis can become so, judging by the article. And those that were observed many times.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 December 2015 07: 26 New
    +2
    What will happen next, time will tell

    Time will tell. But it may oh how we do not like.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 3 December 2015 07: 27 New
    +1
    The Islamic party is really created there. Although not registered. What for?
    ..If Islamic parties are created, then someone needs it ... It’s very convenient to sit across the ocean in full progress, lowering the rest of the world into darkness ..
  8. Same lech
    Same lech 3 December 2015 07: 28 New
    +5
    Azerbaijan. With whom and against whom will we be friends?


    There are no friends in politics, there are only interests and AZERBAIJAN is no exception.
    And if we again, without looking back, begin to trust our partner, we will again get another shot down SU-24.
    Trust but verify.
    1. cap
      cap 3 December 2015 09: 00 New
      +1
      The Turks will not have two authorities as soon as Aliyev puts his finger in it, it’s real that the Turks, that the Iranians will bite off not only a hand, but something else.
      They will also recall the dad of the communist who was a former Chekist and study at MGIMO and walk around the market with Vladimir Putin.
      This is my opinion. I was standing nearby. I heard edge of ear hi
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 3 December 2015 07: 37 New
    +5
    I don’t know what kind of “processes” are raging inside Azerbaijan, but the fact that they have established military cooperation with Turkey is a fact. Therefore, the Turks were nomadized with UPotok, that there is an Azerbaijani alternative --- also a fact. During the active phase of the Karabakh conflict, only the intervention of the Russian army prevented the Turks from interfering in the war. We already concentrated the armies on the border, so ours had to act energetically --- a historical fact. Ethnically close peoples live in both countries, separated by historical collisions. This was in August, it characterizes the level very well trust between two countries:
    Azerbaijan and Turkey will conduct joint tactical exercises of the air forces “TurAz Qartalı - 2015” (“Eagle TurAz - 2015”), the press service of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense reports.
    The exercises, which will start on August 22, will involve more than 30 aircraft, in particular, Mig-29, F-16 fighters, Su-25 attack aircraft, F-4E bombers, and military transport aircraft Herkules C-130 ", Mi-35 combat helicopters, Mi-17 and Sikorski UH-60 military transport helicopters and Cougar AS532 search and rescue helicopters.
    During the exercises, planning will be worked out for cooperation in conducting operations and studying combat compatibility, including the destruction of ground targets from the air.
    The exercises will continue until September 18 and will be held in accordance with the annual plan of military cooperation between Azerbaijan and Turkey.
    from August 22 to September 18! These are the teachings !!!
  10. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 3 December 2015 07: 39 New
    -2
    On top of everything, Russia thoughtlessly sold weapons to Azerbaijan! this should not have been done.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 December 2015 07: 59 New
    10
    I don’t believe in Azerbaijan, fighting on the side of Turkey for its enslavement? Truly utter stupidity. But, in fact, it is impossible to understand anything without "immersing" in the reality of the country, using only open press materials (networks). I suggest the authors study the subject in more depth, the eye hurts - Shiite-Wahhabites. Well, this can’t be! This is even clear to me.
  12. oracul
    oracul 3 December 2015 08: 23 New
    +2
    Yes, let Azerbaijan (historically a trading point of the southern branch of the Silk Road) live as it sees fit. Warriors from them are awful, and traders are not bad. They are accustomed to walking under someone. It is a pity if it will be Turkey. Creeps towards Russia in any form, no matter who stands behind Azerbaijan, must be toughly curbed. Ready to live like good neighbors - well, okay. Our history teaches - do not get friends. As they say, you won’t be forcibly sweet. And again: friends are in trouble.
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 3 December 2015 11: 47 New
      +3
      "They're used to walking under someone."
      So comrade !! If we were used to walking under someone, then Karabakh would have been given back for a long time !! Due to the fact that we don’t go under anyone, Krabakh hangs like a sword of Damocles on us ...
  13. Varies
    Varies 3 December 2015 08: 26 New
    +3
    And I always thought that Sunni Muslims and graters with Iran live there because of the population of Northern Iran, just on this basis.
    And the Turks are so simple * Tuts, in the 2010s after Israel “stormed” them with their humane, the Turkish sultan ran to Assad to be friends against the Jews, and after a year and a half, he changed his shoes to the main prosecutor. So they can promise Aliyev anything, but in practice this will not help in any way in resolving the conflict with Armenia or in Karabakh, if only because the CSTO will intervene with active shuddering, and Turkey will not intervene.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 3 December 2015 13: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Varies
      And I always thought that Sunni Muslims and graters with Iran live there because of the population of Northern Iran, just on this basis.

      Azerbaijanis are mostly Shiites. True, Azerbaijanis are mostly Muslims, the nationality is more important than religion. And graters with Iran are due to Azerbaijanis living there.
      1. fazayek
        fazayek 3 December 2015 21: 11 New
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        most Muslim words

        In in. When was the last time in Baku, there debauchery almost reached the level of Moscow request
        Of course, I don’t know how things are in other cities, but Baku is a Europeanized city.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 3 December 2015 21: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: fazayek
          When was the last time in Baku, there debauchery almost reached the level of Moscow

          not here you went too far. To the level of debauchery, as in Russia for a very long time.
          There is a small circle of untouchables. That's all. I personally saw a detachment of trance guarded by European balconies and gays around European hotels, too, with security. But if behind this line with a knife down my throat. 1 got lost, the guys thought the heifer, started pestering, saw the GUY )) whether from shock or from what the trance was cut)))
          1. fazayek
            fazayek 3 December 2015 22: 04 New
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            Debauchery is too strong a word, I agree, I went too far, but there is permissiveness. Clubs, sex minorities, girls of easy virtue. Everything is like in a "civilized society" smile
  14. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 3 December 2015 08: 31 New
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    Shiites Wahhabis, Abulfaz Aliyev. , written according to the principle one grandmother said and heard in the bazaar. In Azerbaijan, the Aliyev clan harshly suppresses any attempts to compete with the authorities; religious figures are under great pressure. Recently, Shiite radicals were extinguished in the village of Nardaran near Baku, four were killed, two policemen were killed. Educational institutions of Turkish Nursists are closed, hijab is prohibited in educational institutions. Unfortunately, there is an increase in Wahhabis, but they are also trying to squeeze them. The authorities understand that religious fanatics should not be given free rein, a country must be secular for development. My opinion is religion. Regardless of faith, they should sit in the heart of every person, and do not flaunt, observing religious canons, a person should first of all do no harm to others, do not kill, do not steal, do not prejudice, do not deceive, these requirements are the same in the Qur'an and in The bible.
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  16. Roust
    Roust 3 December 2015 08: 36 New
    +4
    I hope that the Azerbaijani authorities have more common sense than the Turks. One must learn from the mistakes of others.
  17. press officer
    press officer 3 December 2015 08: 36 New
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    Quote: good7
    Azerbaijanis will never go against the Turks, and Wahabbits from Iran? It is interesting that the author smokes in Saudi Arabia, probably according to his logic, the Alawites. Found damn allies!


    As soon as our plane was shot down, Azerbaijan immediately declared that Russia has a serious influence on them (everywhere spies) and they need the help of NATO and the European Union ... belay
    It is unlikely that he will take our side. no They have long been poisoned by love for Russia, following the example of the Outskirts. And I think they already succeeded ... recourse
    1. onega67
      onega67 3 December 2015 09: 13 New
      0
      All Azeris are right back home !!! Just a little, regardless of your passport !!!!
    2. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 3 December 2015 11: 39 New
      +6
      "There has long been poisoned by love for Russia, following the example of the Outskirts. '
      And therefore, half of Baku speaks Russian) and therefore eats 15 comprehensive schools (I am silent about the Russian sectors in other schools), where instruction is only in Russian, and therefore there is a Slavic university and therefore eats Russian sectors in institutes ...
  18. Snail N9
    Snail N9 3 December 2015 08: 45 New
    -3
    Those who were in modern Baku say that the Turks completely rebuilt the city in their own way and in their architecture, now Baku looks like one of the districts of Istanbul. The influence of Turkey in Azerbaijan is huge. Like the influence of ISIS-DAISH.
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 3 December 2015 11: 29 New
      +4
      Good Mr. !!) Well, not the same in the end !! We live in the world of the Internet, more carefully with lies.) People can go in and look and not find Baku similar to the Istanbul region) !!! And with the influence of the Wahhabis, you also do not need to make friends ... Yes, these creatures are and quite possibly there may be collisions if they get a command for actions from Fashington, but I think we'll figure it out ..
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 3 December 2015 13: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Snail N9
      The influence of Turkey in Azerbaijan is huge.

      Yes, but more so among the islands than in the government.
      Quote: Snail N9
      Like the influence of ISIS-DAISH.

      And where did these tales come from ??
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 3 December 2015 20: 32 New
        -1
        Do you think this is a fairy tale? Oh well. As for the Internet, look at Baku in 1990 and look at the modern look of 2015, it’s full of photos on the Internet; personally, I don’t see the difference with the architecture of Istanbul. This time. Secondly, I just know that only one Turkish company modernized Baku.
  19. martin-159
    martin-159 3 December 2015 08: 46 New
    0
    Quote: anodonta
    But, unlike other post-Soviet republics, religious organizations very quickly occupied an ideological niche. Unfortunately, this did not happen in Russia.

    Sorry, but I don’t understand this phrase? How to understand it? Are authors proponents of religious fundamentalism? Is it possible in more detail?

    Maybe the author meant Orthodoxy? Then I completely agree with him.
  20. JonnyT
    JonnyT 3 December 2015 09: 05 New
    +1
    Well what can we say, the redistribution of spheres of influence and territory is coming - i.e. a fight is inevitable. Putin taught everyone - we must work ahead of the curve. So our opponents will definitely take this tactic into service.
    Azerbaijan will not give up its independence to Turkey - that's for sure. Will trade oil with them, buy weapons to solve the Karabakh issue - wait for a convenient moment. I think it’s not a secret for everyone for a long time about the relations between Armenians and Azerbaijanis - a night of long knives between these peoples will be necessary, especially in such a world situation. Aliyev and Endrogan will try to do everything possible to channel the energy of youth in the direction they need. Do not forget about Assha who closely "monitor" the situation in Karabakh .....

    I think we need to bet on a hybrid war with the support of irregular paramilitary movements - to stuff weapons with Karabakh and Kurds.
    A fight is inevitable!
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 3 December 2015 11: 15 New
      +7
      You are right, we will not give up independence and there will be a war with the Armenians. You are right, we are waiting. And even when the war begins, it is not known on whose side Russia will be. In this world, everything is changing very quickly ...
      I almost forgot, many people don’t know that it’s odd. Azerbaijan has enough levers to influence Turkish domestic politics. Remember when Erdogan wanted to open borders with Armenia ... They would have opened if Azerbaijan hadn’t “blown up” Turkish political and the public environment. By the way, our smart people then already understood what Erdogan is.
      1. fazayek
        fazayek 3 December 2015 20: 44 New
        0
        Well understood - did not understand, but the fact that many now support Erdogan is a fact. There have already been a couple of dialogues in raised voices with former classmates on the subject of a downed attack aircraft. Previously, there was respect for the Turks, but now there is no foot there at all.
        On the one hand, ordinary Turks are sorry, they themselves do not like Erdogan, on the other hand, who elected him?
  21. Belousov
    Belousov 3 December 2015 09: 06 New
    0
    Aliyev will not go into the bottle. Which is better: to live like a king in peace and prosperity or die for the interests of others? Karabakh will be frozen. With the slightest aggravation towards the Armenians, our people will have to answer and will answer. Moreover, in order not to delay the process, you should answer quickly - a no-fly zone, dense air raids on strategic targets (the same Swans and Bears, safely and reliably). The Armenians on the earth themselves will understand, the main thing is that they do not arrange a massacre in fever. And the Turks will not particularly climb, even driven by the states.
    And the authors already admit blunders on an ongoing basis. That article from Satanovsky’s soprut, giving out as his own, then how they will mess up here because of absolute ignorance of the region. A kind of "wide specialists narrow profile." Oh, shabashniki, but the "marshals" ...
    1. good7
      good7 3 December 2015 12: 07 New
      0
      So I propose to blame!
  22. cap
    cap 3 December 2015 09: 11 New
    +2
    G. Aliyev, a professional diplomat, but cannot sit on three chairs (Turkey, Iran, Russia). Sooner or later he will have to choose in the matter with Syria. And not only that. hi
  23. kirillovleva
    kirillovleva 3 December 2015 09: 23 New
    +1
    the author contradicts himself - either a country of average prosperity or social tension. I was in October 2014 - Baku is brilliant, and the province is poor, unemployment. Azerbaijanis pray to Turkey, they are skeptical towards Iran. There are frequent cases of police work of people who have received education (police) in Turkey. Corruption is legalized, despite the low salary, everyone “has” something - power structures.
  24. Oprichnik
    Oprichnik 3 December 2015 09: 29 New
    -1
    Wahhabis is a sect, a direction in Islam, a lifestyle, organization ???
    Yesterday in an article on terrorist organizations I did not find such a name.
    Tell us briefly about them. And, as far as I know, Wahhabism is not prohibited in the Russian Federation !?
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 3 December 2015 10: 04 New
      +1
      Wahhabism is a return to "pure" Islam. The fact is that Islam is such a confused religion that Muslims themselves cannot understand it, and therefore it was decided to "interpret" the Qur'an and Islam, from which many variants of the "interpretation" of Islam, from "secular" to "puritan", have spawned. Wahhabism is a trend in Islam that has proclaimed the goal of returning to “pure” Islam, that is, Wahhabis reject all cultural and ideological development of mankind, society and their religion-Islam, for them there is only one type of society that is recorded in the Qur'an and enshrined in the laws of “Sharia” "there is a" Middle Ages "with all its" charms ". They consider all the others who did not join “pure Islam” to be heretics who sold their souls and serve the devil, who does not allow them to join this “life-giving source”, and therefore such people no longer have souls are not people with all the consequences. Primitively, of course, he explained, but somewhere like that. The Internet is full of details, if that.
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 3 December 2015 10: 59 New
        +2
        You are mistaken, we have long known who the Wahhabis are !!! They are Satanists and their creators in the current form are the Anglo-Saxons and Zionists.
      2. Turkir
        Turkir 3 December 2015 11: 17 New
        +2
        I would like to draw attention to the time of the emergence of Wahhabism, this return to "pure" Islam - the religious and political movement in Islam, which was formed in the XVIII century. Representatives of this movement themselves often deny this naming, indicating that they are Salafis.
        Deny Suffism. Banned in Dagestan and Chechnya.
        In 1998, as part of a campaign to destroy idols, the Saudi authorities ordered the grave of the Prophet Muhammad's mother, Amina Bint Wahb, to be razed and gasified, which led to a wave of protests and harsh condemnation among Muslims around the world. It is worth noting that according to the words of the prophet Muhammad, Allah did not allow him to ask for forgiveness for his mother (that is, she was a kafir), and only Shia-twenties worship her. According to commentator Sunan Abu Dawood al-Azim Abadi, this ban is due to the fact that she was an unbeliever, and you can’t ask for forgiveness for unbelievers.

        Today, some Islamic leaders, such as the U.S. Supreme Islamic Council and the head of Italian Muslims, Abdul Hadi Palazzi, claim that Wahhabism is an extremist heretical movement, mainly because of its denial by traditional Sufi teachings and interpretations.
        1. good7
          good7 3 December 2015 12: 26 New
          +3
          You need to read a book or contact a preacher to explain who is good and who is bad. For me, everyone who is trying to kill a man, but on the other hand, is that he is a different (pagans, including) nonhumans who need to be destroyed and not to flirt with them, they are right or not. Mankind is 40 years old, Islam is a little more than 000 years old, your ancestors lived without it and did not break off, and for me it is better to go to them after death than to the data of the "pious"
      3. good7
        good7 3 December 2015 12: 12 New
        +1
        In general, Wahhabis are nonhumans and human rights conventions do not apply to them! Saudi Arabia has long had to do!
  25. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 3 December 2015 09: 30 New
    +2
    For example, I am more concerned with where is our ideology, Russian, Russian?
    The social crisis and the lack of a clear and understandable state ideology do not contribute to a love of power.
    But does it not seem to the respected fellow citizens that these lines about Russia are no less so than about Azerbaijan?
    And something our authorities are silent about it, like fish. Or is ideology ready, but they secrete it before the start of the hot war phase?
    Kaby was not late. Nobody will go to fight for the “corrupt elite”, corrupt officials and the Jewish oligarchy. This is a big problem.
    1. zahoder
      zahoder 3 December 2015 10: 03 New
      0
      There is no ideology. Who will sound it from the authorities. Medvedev? Putin?
  26. Neophyte
    Neophyte 3 December 2015 09: 42 New
    0
    Keep an eye on them! These are the quirky traders and their diaspora in Russia is the most numerous. They have a narcissistic thought that they feed Russia and if not for them, we would starve to death? In the diaspora, there are three layers: purchasers, transporters and traders.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 3 December 2015 10: 33 New
      0
      And they behind the scenes pay "zakat", "ushr" and "hums" - Muslim taxes from which mosques are built and which go .... well, I think everyone understands where they go ....
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 3 December 2015 17: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Snail N9
        And they behind the scenes pay "zakat", "ushr" and "hums" - Muslim taxes from which mosques are built and which go .... well, I think everyone understands where they go ....

        Again, Mr. Good)) zakat "," ushr "and" hums "Can you explain what we are talking about?)) I’m especially interested to know how a Muslim is" ushr "?))) Do you know why zakat is paid or are you in aware of what the hums mean? ... And where does all this go?))))
        I understand that you are doing the work, but it is necessary to treat your work in good faith)))) or you can goof it like in your case))
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 3 December 2015 23: 51 New
          -1
          Well, why fool that, since you are a "Muslim"? You all know very well, and understand, if you are really a Muslim, and as it now becomes clear, the questions that you “ask” like out of ignorance are actually specifically to provoke forum participants.
  27. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 3 December 2015 10: 28 New
    10
    I’ll tell you one thing. Friend-comrades, if you are posting articles about a certain state - try to write this material by people living in this country, I was born, raised and live here (like some of the participants on this site) - half the information is stupid, part Outspoken nonsense. They would at least ask us. And it turns out funny, and mislead other readers.
  28. Free wind
    Free wind 3 December 2015 10: 37 New
    +1
    Az .... you identify with the Turks, and consider them their natural allies. Yes, and before very actively cooperated with the Turks. During the Armenian Genocide, the Turks very actively helped cut out Armenian villages. Interestingly, the word Turks, in Turkey until the beginning of the 20th century, was an abusive word. They called themselves Ottomans, and the Turks are a dumb, uneducated person. az ... s, well, fingers cramping into convulsions while you print
    1. Boz_canavar
      Boz_canavar 3 December 2015 10: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Free Wind
      Interestingly, the word Turks, in Turkey until the beginning of the 20th century, was an abusive word
      invented fiction
      Quote: Free Wind
      az ... s, well, fingers cramping into convulsions while you print

      it's time for you to be treated
  29. stas-xnumx
    stas-xnumx 3 December 2015 10: 38 New
    0
    An interesting article, even to understand this issue, the phrase is commonplace, but it is true in the root: East is a delicate matter ....
  30. Chulman
    Chulman 3 December 2015 10: 44 New
    +2
    Russia is constantly looking for allies. Constantly betray her. Isn't it better to think about your people? It has long been said that Russia has only two allies - the army and navy! I walk through life alone, I have only one ally, this is my family! It’s hard of course, it’s hard for one in my life, but for that I don’t worry that one of my friends will betray me! Because I am always guided by the principle: do not believe, do not be afraid, do not ask!
    A good, big, rich and beautiful country of Russia! Smart and hardworking people live on this earth! But... request
  31. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik 3 December 2015 10: 50 New
    +7
    "This appearance gave a signal to smart people to understand a simple truth. Wahhabis are supported by followers of Imam Ali from Iran. Especially in the southern regions of Azerbaijan."

    Are you gentlemen, have you fallen from oak? Judging by the article, you don’t even have basic knowledge!
  32. mAgs
    mAgs 3 December 2015 11: 04 New
    +1
    For the authors of the article. I have a relative Azerbaijani, he is 35 years old, was born and lived in Azerbaijan, now he lives and works in Kazakhstan, there is no work there. There is also an Azerbaijani colleague, he is 23, he was born and lives in Kazakhstan, there are relatives from there. Both are not particularly believers, do not go to the mosque on Fridays, the pants are not short. Regarding Russia, they are bound by one thing, they do not like it because of Karabakh. And this is the opinion of two Azerbaijanis from Kazakhstan about Russia. This is a fact that I know for sure. I don’t know what Azerbaijanis from Azerbaijan think. In the issue of Karabakh, I do not take anyone’s side. In this matter, each side has its own truth.
  33. Vladimir
    Vladimir 3 December 2015 11: 40 New
    +2
    Here, whatever one may say, Azerbaijan will not be on the side of Russia, at best it will occupy a tacit position. Turks and Azerbaijanis are by nature traders and even religiously close. The top is quietly sitting on oil and there is no need for change, but no one is interested in organizing a change of power, most likely everyone is now interested in shuffling trade relations.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 3 December 2015 13: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir
      .Turks and Azerbaijanis are by nature traders and in a religious aspect are close in spirit.

      Shiite Azerbaijanis are Turks Sunnis, how else is their affinity ?? The closeness is only that they have normal Sunniism and normal Shiism in Azerbaijan. All affinity rests on the unity of the people. This is Stalin who called all the inhabitants of Azerbaijan Azerbaijanis, people consider themselves Turks. In Iran, Azerbaijanis never calls himself an Azerbaijani, only Turk (Turk). And in Turkey, Azeri-Turk is called the inhabitants of Azerbaijan. And Azerbaijanis in Turkey are represented as Azeri-Turk or Azerbaijani Turk. Everything rests on the laziness of a person)))
      Quote: Vladimir
      The top calmly sits on oil and she does not need change

      This is what will destroy her.
  34. brom
    brom 3 December 2015 12: 17 New
    +5
    It seems to me that no economic ties with Turkey, no treaties and agreements can force Abulfaz Aliyev to oppose the nascent Russia-Iran pair.


    Abulfaz Aliyev died on August 22, 2000 in Turkey. So, the article is about nothing.
  35. Dreamscripter
    Dreamscripter 3 December 2015 12: 30 New
    +4
    Wahhabis from Iran? STA ?!
  36. Wolka
    Wolka 3 December 2015 12: 56 New
    0
    the authors correctly emphasized and designated guidelines for reflection on the example of Azerbaijan, indeed the absence of a political idea, or rather the lack of an ideological foundation of the state, is immediately replaced by a religious component, which is dangerous in principle for the development of the state itself, excessive Islamization of state power will inevitably lead to a collapse of power and inevitable stagnation social development ...
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 3 December 2015 13: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Volka
      the authors correctly emphasized and designated guidelines for reflection on the example of Azerbaijan, indeed the absence of a political idea, or rather the lack of an ideological foundation of the state, is immediately replaced by a religious component, which is dangerous in principle for the development of the state itself, excessive Islamization of state power will inevitably lead to a collapse of power and inevitable stagnation social development ...

      Actually, the media is one of the branches of government.
      This author of delirium wrote here and all Russians who did not know anything about Azerbaijan believed.
      What is Islamization in Azerbaijan ??? There is a very narrow category of religious people.
      The state has an idea. The truth is partly its merit in quotation marks. Since there is an occupation of 20% of the territories. And this is the IDEA OF NATIONAL SCALE. All resources are focused on this.
      This is a nationwide idea. The return of the territory and the destruction of the Armenians. The average resident of Azerbaijan has a clear goal.
      1. good7
        good7 3 December 2015 14: 21 New
        -2
        Nazis, some work!
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 3 December 2015 14: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: good7
          Nazis, some work!

          Well, I would look at you if 20% of the territory of Russia would be occupied, and 10% of the population would be refugees. Then people because of 2 rocks at sea are ready to put Japan into nuclear apocalepsis, and because of 1 pilot 80 million .Turkey to the nuclear hell throw))
          Although hatred is clearly for one people. These are Armenians.
          1. KG_patriot_last
            KG_patriot_last 3 December 2015 17: 10 New
            +2
            The Armenians themselves stumbled in due time - that is, they squandered to indecency - you can’t fight against everyone and stay with your own. Let them blow up the USSR further.

            Recently, I have been looking forward to how they will decide there by Armenomaydan - it’s a pity subsided. It would be amusing to observe how they reorient themselves towards NATO and receive subsidies.

            In vain did they plunge into Central Asia, the "victors of the Turks" in ancient times.
          2. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev 3 December 2015 22: 23 New
            0
            Quote: Yeraz
            Well, I would look at you if 20% of the territory of Russia would be occupied, and 10% of the population would be refugees. Then people because of 2 rocks at sea are ready to put Japan into nuclear apocalepsis, and because of 1 pilot 80 million .Turkey to the nuclear hell throw))

            The Russian Federation is a power and it’s not about the plane and the rocks. For example, we transferred disputed territories to China without any tantrums on both sides, and at one time we fought for them. Here, most of all, politics and the right attitude towards each other.

            I am not talking about that. I'm interested in something else. Here you will conquer Karabakh, what you will do with the Armenians. they live there 100 thousand, and maybe more. I am not for the Armenians and not for you, just interesting.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 3 December 2015 23: 10 New
              +1
              Quote: Rusich not from Kiev
              Here you will conquer Karabakh, what you will do with the Armenians. they live there 100 thousand, and maybe more. I am not for the Armenians and not for you, just interesting.

              Everything is very easy. There are less than 100 thousand times.
              There is Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 districts around where there were no Armenians at all. Almost no one lives in 5 districts, since they are on the front front. They live in Nagorno-Karabakh and 2 districts that connect Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia.
              the population itself will automatically leave at the beginning of the war. Everyone knows there will be no mercy and they don’t give a damn about the opinions of the world, they will slaughter everyone. Therefore, the civilian population will immediately leave. And the problem itself will be solved.
              1. Rusich is not from Kiev
                Rusich is not from Kiev 4 December 2015 14: 15 New
                0
                Quote: Yeraz
                . Everyone knows mercy will not and everyone does not care about the opinions of the world, they will cut everyone. Therefore, the civilian population will immediately leave. And the problem itself will be solved.

                Hard. but honestly. I thought something like this, everything is always tough there. I don’t understand how you lived peacefully with the Armenians in the USSR. After all, there were no turmoil in Baku like 89.
                But I don’t even know the opinion of the world. In the USA, it seems like the Armenian lobby is very strong.

                P.S. Let’s say a warrior began and you liberated Karabakh. Will you do a corridor with Nakhichevan or not? I understand that you are not the president, but personally your opinion.
      2. Turkir
        Turkir 3 December 2015 18: 15 New
        +1
        This is a nationwide idea. Return of territory and extermination of Armenians.

        This nationwide the idea under the laws of international law is called - genocide.
        Are you writing this on behalf of all Azerbaijanis or only on your own behalf?
        1. fazayek
          fazayek 3 December 2015 20: 54 New
          +1
          Well, about the destruction, he got excited, but the expulsion from Karabakh is yes, there is. And they are laying it from childhood. More Armenians in Azerbaijan only hate Gorbachev :)
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 3 December 2015 21: 06 New
            +3
            Quote: fazayek
            Well, about the destruction, he got excited, but the expulsion from Karabakh is yes, there is.

            This is a fact. It’s another matter that when the army sets off, the Armenians themselves will leave. Everyone knows for Khojaly Azerbaijan will fully remember. And this is the rare case when even the president and the command can do nothing to stop ordinary soldiers.
            Quote: fazayek
            And they are laying it from childhood. More Armenians in Azerbaijan only hate Gorbachev :)

            Ohhh, this spotted one can even be hated more.
            In Azerbaijan, in childhood there is such an ancient theme, if a child is given an injection or he breaks something and cries, his parents tell him. Ooh, the Armenian saw blood, be a man. Many people shut up right away, just calling the Armenians the highest degree of insult.
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz 3 December 2015 21: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: Turkir
          Are you writing this on behalf of all Azerbaijanis or only on your own behalf?

          On behalf of everyone. This is the idea of ​​the majority. Yes, Armenians have the same mood. There is clearly a small layer of humanists everywhere. But they are a minority in both countries. Only in the case of Armenians there is no division into Turks and mythical Azerbaijanis. The only people in the world who correctly calls the name of both peoples. on the Armyasnkom Turkes like.
  37. Old warrior
    Old warrior 3 December 2015 15: 39 New
    +4
    I do not fully agree with the conclusions of the article on the Islamization of Azerbaijan. When Baku is shown on TV, there are few women in pentjabs on its streets, which is much less than on the streets of the same Paris or Berlin. It is possible that Azerbaijan would not mind taking Turkey’s place in the region, under certain circumstances, of course.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 3 December 2015 20: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: Old Warrior
      I do not fully agree with the conclusions of the article on the Islamization of Azerbaijan. When Baku is shown on TV, there are few women in pentjabs on its streets, which is much less than on the streets of the same Paris or Berlin. It is possible that Azerbaijan would not mind taking Turkey’s place in the region, under certain circumstances, of course.

      That's why we say that the article is complete nonsense.
      And if in the city you see a woman with her head covered, then these are bright colors and a stylish combination.
      Quote: Old Warrior
      It is possible that Azerbaijan would not mind taking Turkey’s place in the region, under certain circumstances, of course.

      This is under what circumstances ?? To achieve the economic development that Turkey. To unite with South Azerbaijan, so that the population is at least 30 million. and territory for more. A lot of circumstances are necessary))) Azerbaijan is not striving for this. Right now Davutoglu is in Baku. Azerbaijan has clearly expressed its support for Turkey. The truth has not touched upon the moment with the downed plane))
  38. Ima tsoh
    Ima tsoh 3 December 2015 16: 30 New
    -3
    Azerbaijan will soon show its true face. If they declare that Karabakh is their land, this already says a lot. That is, to distort the truth and act contrary to the truth.
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 3 December 2015 17: 20 New
      +3
      And not only Karabakh, that Yerevan in which you are sitting is also ours !!! learn history !!
      1. andrew-z
        andrew-z 3 December 2015 18: 07 New
        -1
        In general, it’s ridiculous to read such phrases as “teach history,” I think they are just learning history, but only their own and it turns out that they are not “yours”. Any story is an interpretation of events with a search for meanings that correspond to your worldview. And why should they have yours? They have enough of their own ...
      2. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 3 December 2015 22: 33 New
        -2
        Quote: Otshelnik
        And not only Karabakh, the Yerevan you are sitting in is also ours

        This is not overkill. Everything belonged to Persia, but you grazed sheep no more. Although of course you are right, the Armenians weren’t close there.
        1. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik 5 December 2015 14: 14 New
          +1
          And Persia belonged to us, the Turks) what about oats, so what's wrong with this? Prophets grazed oats ...
  39. Yak28
    Yak28 3 December 2015 17: 52 New
    -2
    I think Azerbaijan and any other country from the former republics of the USSR will take the side of NATO. Remember how the Russians survived from the collapse of the union, but Russia fought for them in the Caucasus, trained them, built them infrastructure. And the Asian republics even the alphabet and they came up with writing, that's how much they were retarded in development. And now they are "friends" with Russia because they feed at its expense, their citizens go to work in Russia, because no one will let them in another country. In any case, they will quickly will go over to the side of the likely adversary as a Warsaw Pact country
  40. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 3 December 2015 19: 17 New
    0
    "Whoever has a good army will find good allies." Niccolo Machiavelli
  41. Sharikov
    Sharikov 3 December 2015 20: 33 New
    0
    Gas deliveries via the Trans-Anatolian gas pipeline from Azerbaijan to Turkey should begin earlier than 2018 of the year.
    The construction of the Trans-Anatolian Gas Pipeline (TANAP) from Azerbaijan to Turkey will be accelerated. This was announced by Turkish Prime Minister Davutoglu at a joint press conference with President of Azerbaijan Aliyev.
    The TANAP pipeline will allow Turkey to increase purchases of Azerbaijani gas by 6 billion cubic meters annually, and will also enable Baku to export 10 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe per year. Gas will be delivered to Europe via the TAP gas pipeline connecting with TANAP. Gas will be supplied from the Azerbaijani Shah Deniz field.
    Earlier, Turkish President Erdogan said that Turkey "will not be lost" in the event of a cessation of gas supplies from Russia. Today it became known that negotiations between Ankara and Moscow on the Turkish Stream have been suspended.
  42. fazayek
    fazayek 3 December 2015 21: 07 New
    +1
    It amuses me how the Russians persistently try to find the enemy in the person of Azerbaijan. I xs what should happen for the Azerbaijanis to begin to consider the Russians as real enemies. Is that a direct invasion. I don’t even want to mention how many Russian schools, universities, how many ethnic schools there are in Azerbaijan! Azerbaijanis think in Russian. If Azerbaijan does not creep under Russia, as well as under the USA, this does not mean that it is an enemy. But you continue to consider Armenia your “brother forever,” sooner or later you will see how it begins to flirt with NATO.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 3 December 2015 21: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: fazayek
      I don’t even want to mention how many Russian schools, universities, how many ethnic schools there are in Azerbaijan! Azerbaijanis think in Russian

      The trouble with Russia is that it does not really know the situation in the former USSR countries.
      But this doesn’t stop many from talking smartly about Turkey or others, although they haven’t yet been acquainted with their neighbors with whom they have lived 200 years.
      Many here would be shocked to see the level of the Russian language and its influence in Azerbaijan.
    2. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 3 December 2015 22: 44 New
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      Quote: fazayek
      It amuses me how the Russians persistently try to find the enemy in the person of Azerbaijan. I xs what should happen for the Azerbaijanis to begin to consider the Russians as real enemies. Is that a direct invasion. I don’t even want to mention how many Russian schools, universities, how many ethnic schools there are in Azerbaijan! Azerbaijanis think in Russian.

      Well, Turkey killed our soldiers and ALL Azras are yelling on the Internet, which they did right and even boast about it. There are many such situations. An Azerbaijani will commit a crime (murder, rape) against a Russian, and you protect him with the SOCIETY. Not relatives and close friends, which is understandable, but the whole SOCIETY, all Azerbaijanis. Even those who live in Russia. You, like the Armenians calmly insert a knife into the back, there are even no questions. Here you are straight twins with Armenians.
      Who study in these schools and universities? Mostly you. And why? Because you know how to count money and understand that the Russian Federation has it. You know Russian people will not disappear in the Russian Federation, you will receive an education, a career.
      Quote: fazayek
      If Azerbaijan does not creep under Russia, as well as under the USA, this does not mean that it is an enemy. But you continue to consider Armenia your “brother forever,” sooner or later you will see how it begins to flirt with NATO

      Do you really have an independent policy? Why don’t you side with NATO and Turkey? What could not just be silent, like Lukashenko? So you are already under them.
      Armenians are considered friends, and even more so brothers, only d.u.r.aki. Just now, Armenians are our real allies only because they are afraid of you and the Turks. This is geopolitics. that's all.
      1. fazayek
        fazayek 3 December 2015 23: 22 New
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        Screaming enough everywhere. With regards to
        Quote: Rusich not from Kiev

        Do you really have an independent policy? What didn’t you side with NATO

        Where are the proofs, Billy?
        1. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 4 December 2015 14: 04 New
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          Quote: fazayek
          Where are the proofs, Billy?

          Thus, the comprehensive support of Turkey, and therefore NATO in these situations, is a proof. A real neutral would take a neutral position, supporting both, as it were, and said the words of reconciliation once it is impossible to remain silent.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 3 December 2015 23: 34 New
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        Quote: Rusich not from Kiev
        Just now, Armenians are our real allies only because they are afraid of you and the Turks. This is geopolitics. that's all.

        Gold words)
  43. Yeraz
    Yeraz 3 December 2015 21: 08 New
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    In all matters, Azerbaijan is close to Turkey. ” AzerTAc reports that Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said this at a meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.



    President Ilham Aliyev noted the fact that Ahmet Davutoglu made his first visit after the parliamentary elections in Turkey to Azerbaijan.

    “This symbolizes friendship and brotherhood between Turkey and Azerbaijan. In all matters, both countries come forward from a single position. We support and will support each other. Both sides are represented by large delegations. Bilateral meetings will be held. Relations are developing in all areas, and this visit will play an important role in their development, ”the head of the Azerbaijani state said.

    In turn, A. Davutoglu said that after the election he had not yet managed to go to Istanbul, where he was born, but arrived in Azerbaijan.

    “Azerbaijan is our soul. I will introduce you to the new members of the government. We have wide connections, no states in the world are as close as Turkey and Azerbaijan. I also want to congratulate you on your election success, ”Davutoglu said.
  44. Yeraz
    Yeraz 3 December 2015 21: 10 New
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    By the way, earlier Turkish goods arrived in the CA through Russia. Azerbaijan had high tariffs.
    At the request of Turkey, Azerbaijan canceled and lowered some tariffs yesterday and forwards cargoes to the CA through the Caspian.
  45. Yeraz
    Yeraz 3 December 2015 21: 53 New
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    Turkey and China set up consortium to deliver goods to Europe bypassing Russia



    Turkey and China, together with Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Georgia, have established a consortium to transport goods from China to Europe, bypassing Russia. The corresponding agreement was signed on November 28 by representatives of major transport and logistics operators in Istanbul. This was reported by Interfax with reference to a statement by the press service of the Georgian Railway.

    The document notes that an agreement was reached during the presentation of the capabilities of the Trans-Caspian transport route China - Turkey - Europe. Along with the Chinese company Mishgeng Logistics, KTZ express (a transport company that is part of the Kazakhstan Railways), the Azerbaijan Caspian Shipping Company and the Azerbaijani company Caravan Logistics, as well as Trans Caucasus Terminals expressed their readiness to become founders of the consortium. (a subsidiary of the Georgian Railway). Turkey is represented in the consortium as an associate member.

    Within the framework of this project, during 2016 it is planned to transport the first several thousand containers from China to Turkey and Europe through the territory of Georgia. The parties also plan to begin shipping goods through Ukraine to Northern and Eastern Europe next year.

    Earlier on November 30, it was reported that the export of Turkish goods to the Russian Federation from January to October fell by 38,9 percent compared to the same period last year, to $ 3,065 billion.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin on November 28 signed a decree on the application of special economic measures against Turkey. According to the document, the import into the territory of the Russian Federation of certain types of goods from this country is limited. In particular, Putin decided to ban or restrict the activities of organizations under the jurisdiction of Turkey in Russia, to suspend the visa-free regime from January 1, 2016, and also introduced a ban on charter air transport between the two countries. Tour operators are ordered to refrain from the implementation of Russian citizens tours, providing for a visit to the Republic of Turkey.

    On November 26, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev instructed the government to work out a package of measures in response to the actions of Turkey, which shot down a Russian bomber in Syria.

    The Su-24 front-line bomber from the Russian air group in Syria was shot down by Turkish F-16 fighters on November 24.
  46. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 3 December 2015 22: 12 New
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    Wahhabis from IRAN ???? WHAT?
  47. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 3 December 2015 23: 17 New
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    Explanatory article.
  48. Aslan88
    Aslan88 4 December 2015 17: 49 New
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    The article is just rubbish. Not 90% of the Shiite population, but only 60%. And how can Shiiti be a Wahhabi? And who is Abulfaz Aliyev? Every true Azerbaijani is close to Turkey with his heart and soul, and this is true.
  49. Yak28
    Yak28 5 December 2015 16: 42 New
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    Quote: Aslan88
    The article is just rubbish. Not 90% of the Shiite population, but only 60%. And how can Shiiti be a Wahhabi? And who is Abulfaz Aliyev? Every true Azerbaijani is close to Turkey with his heart and soul, and this is true.

    And I thought every real Azerbaijani is engaged in speculation or crime in Moscow.
    1. Javadkhan
      Javadkhan 18 December 2015 16: 04 New
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      In this case, I’m afraid that “thinking” is not your strongest quality.
  50. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 7 December 2015 14: 42 New
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    Everything will be a bunch. you will see.