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The solution of economic and criminal problems of Dagestan will begin only with the return of the Russian population.


The leadership of the republic shows a certain concern in connection with the outflow of the Russian population from the republic. But, unfortunately, no practical steps are taken to stop this process. At the same time, many have already noticed that the fewer Russians remain in this subject of the Russian Federation, the louder the shots sound not only in the mountains, but also in the cities.

The author of these lines was born in the Dagestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (DASSR) in 1937. Autonomous, it was under the Constitution of the USSR, and Soviet and socialist - in essence. Traditional Islam, which was especially developed during the time of Imam Shamil, peacefully coexisted here with the Soviet regime. The danger of radical Islamism appeared in 1991, immediately after the collapse of the USSR.

On the basis of Russian fortresses


The first of the peoples of Dagestan in the XVII century in the structure of Russia were Kumyks. Three attempts to join the Persian city of Derbent (in 1722, 1775 and 1786) in Russia were not successful. Only in 1806-m, following the order of Emperor Alexander I, did General Grigory Glazenap seize the city, and from that day Derbent became part of the Russian Empire.

Wherever you look - everywhere clanDagestan, for another seven years, remained an Iranian province. After the brilliant victories in 1812 – 1813 of the Russian army, led by General Peter Kotlyarevsky over the Persian troops, the Gulistan peace treaty was signed, according to which a number of Caucasian territories withdrew from Iran to the Russian Empire, including Dagestan. Soon Russian fortresses appeared here: Sudden, Stormy, Holy Cross, as well as in the villages of Akhty, Khunzakh, Botlikh, etc.

Derbent gubernia was formed in 1846, which became part of the Dagestan region in 1860, after the conquest of Imam Shamil.

Petrovsk-Port was founded on the basis of Russian fortresses in 1857, and Temir-Khan-Shura was founded in 1866. Together with the Kumyks, Jews, Armenians and Azerbaijanis, the Russians became the core around which the urban population of the region began to form.

Today, the date of entry of Derbent into Russia is forgotten. 19 September 2015 celebrated the 2000 anniversary of the city. Residents say it was a holiday for republican officials. And in their speeches, none of them remembered, thanks to whom and how this Persian city was in the composition of Dagestan and Russia.

The ideological vacuum and religious illiteracy of the population formed after the collapse of the Soviet Union became the breeding ground for the spread of false religions and pseudo-ideologies. The initiators of the collapse of the USSR were unable to foresee that by their actions they clear the way for such a dangerous phenomenon, which soon penetrated not only into the Muslim regions of Russia, but also into its central cities, including Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Through the destroyed borders, a flood of propagandists of radical interpretation of Islam has poured, the success of which was promoted by the decline of the economy, the destruction of the former state ideology, the increase in the number of unemployed, the decline in the standard of living of the majority of the population, the aggravation of interethnic relations, etc.

The ethnopolitical processes that arose in Dagestan in connection with this affected primarily the Russian population, whose outflow from the republic from 1991 increased sharply. Of course, the main factor in their outcome was the events in neighboring Chechnya and the weakness of local and federal authorities, who could not protect the civilian population from lawlessness and unrest. The Russians who had no related clans turned out to be the most vulnerable and defenseless. Heightened religious extremism also contributed to this process.

The fact that the Russians were not allowed to the distribution of benefits in the 90 and in subsequent years played a certain role in what was happening. And this, despite their main role in creating and strengthening the economy of Dagestan, the development of its culture, science and education.

The representation of Russians in the government and other administrative bodies of the republican government decreased, outpacing the outflow of the population, thereby provoking an acceleration of the process.

Indifference Center


The change in the number of Russian population in the Dagestan region indicates the quality of their living conditions: 1897 th - 2,8 percent, 1913 th - 6, 1917 th - 12, 1939 th - 19, 1959 th - 22 1994 th - 7,8, 2000 th - 5,6 percent.

The rapid growth in the number of Russians at the beginning of the twentieth century was the result of their active participation in the construction of cities, factories, factories, railways and highways, a seaport, railway stations, power stations, etc. Russian teachers, doctors, engineers, art workers contributed to the development of education, science and culture in the republic. At this time, in multinational Dagestan, Russian is becoming the language of interethnic communication.

On the eve and during the Great Patriotic War, the Russians formed the basis of the administrative apparatus of the republic. Of the Dagestani 58 Heroes of the Soviet Union and seven full men of the Order of Glory, almost half are Russian surnames, including all eight Makhachkala heroes.

It should be recognized that in the last 20 years the indifference of the federal center to the problems of the republic and, in particular, its Russian population has played a very negative role in what is happening in the republic. This took advantage of ethnic clans, corrupt officials, extremists, terrorists and radical Islamists.

The authorities must finally realize that Dagestan is a unique republic in its composition and its attitude to it must be special. If, for example, two kindred peoples - Chechens and Ingushs - could not live in the same republic, despite the common language and culture, then what is the 36 ethnic group in Dagestan to find a common language. A person who has no clan or clan ties here should lead the republic. The federal center does not understand this. Or understand, but ignore.

Somewhat encouraging is the position of Vladimir Putin, who acknowledged that the exodus of Russians from the North Caucasus means the loss of skilled labor, as well as entire industries, the culture of living together. Also, the President of the Russian Federation voiced the intention of the federal center to ensure the return of people regardless of their nationality.

However, the solution to this problem is extremely difficult. In our opinion, it is necessary to begin with the creation of such conditions in the Tarumovsky and Kizlyar districts under which the Russians will not leave the republic. To this end, in the names of these areas you need to add the word "Russian" or "Cossack", in memory of their affiliation to the Terek Cossacks in the past. This will strengthen the conviction in the consciousness of the Russian population that they are not strangers in the Republic of Dagestan.

Further, in administrative and law enforcement agencies, educational institutions, and other institutions, it is necessary to introduce quotas for places for the Russian population, including for military personnel who are being transferred to the reserve and their family members.

It is impossible to solve the tasks facing Dagestan on a fundamental change in the economic and criminal situation without the Russian population.
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  1. Sterlya
    Sterlya 2 December 2015 17: 56 New
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    Everything is simple. We must find Kadyrov in Dagestan.
    And do not zvizdezh about special relationships, etc.
    That Chechens, Bashkirs, Tatars, Nenets, Ingush, etc. do not require special treatment?
    Russia is a lot of national country, all require the same attitude, Simple.
    And where they require a "special" attitude, the FSB should work. Especially.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 2 December 2015 17: 59 New
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      The stronger Russia, the calmer the Caucasus! Checked more than once ... hi
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 3 December 2015 01: 37 New
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        Sterlya (2)
        And do not zvizdezh about special relationships, etc.
        That Chechens, Bashkirs, Tatars, Nenets, Ingush, etc. do not require special treatment?
        Russia is a lot of national country, all require the same attitude, Simple.
        And where they require a "special" attitude, the FSB should work. Especially.

        With all due respect to you, Sterlya (2), I cannot agree with you in any way!
        You probably think that the Russian question does not exist in Russia ?! Or do you just ignore him ?! It's even somehow stupid or dishonest on your part!
        Yes, I admit that you simply didn’t experience the Russian question in our former Soviet national administrative divisions in the form of genocide of the Russian people by the titular nationalities - especially after the collapse of the USSR, because you are a “Russian” Tatar, as you wrote in one of his comments. But still, since you are a smart person, I personally can explain your position, excuse me, only by the fact that the Tatar chauvinist still speaks small in you - a little, of course, by thoughtlessness. In any case, I hope so.
        For you contradict yourself when you speak
        Russia is a lot of national country, everyone requires the same attitude,

        not paying attention to the data given in the article
        The change in the number of Russian population in the Dagestan region indicates the quality of their living conditions: 1897 th - 2,8 percent, 1913 th - 6, 1917 th - 12, 1939 th - 19, 1959 th - 22 1994 th - 7,8, 2000 th - 5,6 percent.
        So why, in your opinion, with such an "identical" - "not special" - attitude towards EVERYONE in Dagestan decreases precisely by Russian people ?! Why do you, in fact, remove this question? Which puts the author of the article.
        However, you are not the only one.
        This year I was at a conference on the development of tolerance towards foreign labor migrants in Russia. At the round table around this migration dispute arose and stood up to discuss the Russian question on the edge. For the sake of interest, I put to the vote the question - Who is for the Russian question in the Russian Federation? Of the 10 people present (except me), they voted as follows: “no” - 8 people, abstained - 1 people, “for” - 1 people. And all 8 “for” turned out to be national half-breeds without Russian blood. It is noteworthy at the same time that the nee representative of Dagestan voted “for” (man, I don’t remember him exactly of Dagestan nationality). Moreover, all 8 “for” began to shame the Dagestan and pull him to his side. However, a Dagestani man, apparently of the age of 55, categorically said that he himself saw with his own eyes in Dagestan this very Russian question and would not refuse his words.
        1. Burmistr
          Burmistr 3 December 2015 10: 40 New
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          I agree with Tatyana, in Russia, unfortunately, the most unprotected people are Russians
    2. Vikings
      Vikings 2 December 2015 18: 07 New
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      No, not everything is simple! It’s necessary to carry out a competent policy,
      to stimulate the return of the Russian-speaking population, and
      merit his interests!
      Quote: Sterlya
      Everything is simple. We must find Kadyrov in Dagestan.
      And do not zvizdezh about special relationships, etc.
      That Chechens, Bashkirs, Tatars, Nenets, Ingush, etc. do not require special treatment?
      Russia is a lot of national country, all require the same attitude, Simple.
      And where I demand a "special" attitude, the FSB should work. Especially.
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 2 December 2015 18: 16 New
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        Quote: Vikings
        No, not everything is simple! It’s necessary to carry out a competent policy,
        to stimulate the return of the Russian-speaking population, and
        merit his interests!

        No need to incite a specialty. Dagestanis are normal. The leadership is rotten there. It’s much easier there than in Chechnya.
        And there is no point in the policy of returning the Russian-speaking population. There is no point in this. When the situation arises, the Russian-speaking as you say, they themselves will come. Everything is simple. All in moderation and according to the situation.
        There is no situation, there are fears. Will you forcefully populate it? Stupidity.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 2 December 2015 18: 35 New
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          Quote: Sterlya
          No need to incite a specialty.


          True, there is no need for special treatment, but it is imperative to create jobs in the republic, especially for young people. Hands need to be occupied with creative work, otherwise the machine will take them. Well, there will be work — qualified personnel of other nationalities will also be drawn. And national tolerance should be instilled from young nails, not only in Dagestan or Ingushetia, but in all regions of Russia.
          1. Bath
            Bath 2 December 2015 19: 31 New
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            Somewhat encouraging is the position of Vladimir Putin, who admitted that the exodus of Russians from the North Caucasus means the loss of skilled labor - as you can see, the guarantor designated the place of the Russian ethnic group in the republic so what the author wants is there is no work and no staff
            1. Scraptor
              Scraptor 3 December 2015 00: 52 New
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              The rest are traders and managers lol And in large cities of non-black soil, too. Those that are not "diamond" boys.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 3 December 2015 02: 27 New
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                Sterlya (2)
                Quote: Vikings
                No, not everything is simple! It’s necessary to carry out a competent policy,
                to stimulate the return of the Russian-speaking population, and to defend its interests!

                No need to incite a specialty. Dagestanis are normal. The leadership is rotten there. It’s much easier there than in Chechnya.
                И there is no point in the policy of returning the Russian-speaking population. There is no point in this. When the situation arises, the Russian-speaking, as you say, will come themselves. It's simple. All in moderation and according to the situation.
                There is no situation, there are fears. Will you forcefully populate it? Stupidity.

                Dear Sterlya (2)! In your words, of course, there is a fraction of common sense. However, to me, here, it is interesting.
                First, when you, dear Sterlya (2), say
                When the situation arises, the Russian-speaking, as you say, will come themselves.
                what specific SITUATION do you mean, which supposedly should arise in Dagestan in order for “Russian-speaking people themselves to come”?
                And secondly, why do you call Russians not Russian, but Russian-speaking? After all, the Russian-speaking is not a nationality yet! But the point is in the formulation of the ethnic ethnic demographic problem of Dagestan in the article is about RUSSIAN.
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          2. Sterlya
            Sterlya 2 December 2015 19: 57 New
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            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: Sterlya
            No need to incite a specialty.


            True, there is no need for special treatment, but it is imperative to create jobs in the republic, especially for young people. Hands need to be occupied with creative work, otherwise the machine will take them. Well, there will be work — qualified personnel of other nationalities will also be drawn. And national tolerance should be instilled from young nails, not only in Dagestan or Ingushetia, but in all regions of Russia.

            Common understanding. Thank! More of these.
            1. fdg45tfh
              fdg45tfh 2 December 2015 20: 42 New
              -14
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            2. fdg45tfh
              fdg45tfh 2 December 2015 20: 42 New
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            3. Kirgoudou
              Kirgoudou 3 December 2015 06: 38 New
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              Also in agreement.
              Nationality has nothing to do with it!
              Moreover, there is only upbringing with young snot and domestic policy of the country.
          3. Sterlya
            Sterlya 2 December 2015 21: 06 New
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            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: Sterlya
            No need to incite a specialty.


            True, there is no need for special treatment, but it is imperative to create jobs in the republic, especially for young people. Hands need to be occupied with creative work, otherwise the machine will take them. Well, there will be work — qualified personnel of other nationalities will also be drawn. And national tolerance should be instilled from young nails, not only in Dagestan or Ingushetia, but in all regions of Russia.

            E mine. Children. Chechens are the same people. He served with them in the army. Well, no higher than the Tatars or anyone. The ambition is simply greater. Dagestanis are generally good people.
            Everyone who writes here looks like shnikov who know nothing.
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 2 December 2015 20: 05 New
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          Sterlya

          You are right and Vikings is right. And I will add information to the reflection.

          Thanks to the author. The article is important and very timely and that’s why.

          Syrian refugees?

          Syrian refugees are everywhere. To Europe, to North America. Where tens of thousands, and to whom, and a million.

          The local population will not be able to assimilate and instill their national culture. The policy of multiculturalism revive CLAN. Lack of unity among the people, as well as trust in the government will lead to the destruction of states. That means it will kill the social structure that exercises control over the rule of law.

          Someone stubbornly and consistently organizedly patiently leads the planet to the destruction of the law of the state-controlling entities.

          What the author wrote, he showed the mechanism of destruction of the rule of law of a local scale.

          And now the comparative processes are global.

          Any sane Westerner will look towards Russia with the last hope. Save. You can still. And we are already dying.

          Look at the Donbass international groups. Do you think they only protect the Donbass. Each of these people understand that there they are fighting for their national state.

          A little pathetic, but something like that.
      2. dauria
        dauria 2 December 2015 18: 28 New
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        For this purpose, the word “Russian” should be added to the names of these areas


        No, we must remove the name "Dagestan", "Chechen", "Tatar", "Jewish", "Mordovian", "Buryat", etc. from all names, not even a hint of belonging to the territory of any nation, even Russian , though Udmurt.
        Only the area by the name of the city center. Stop laying a bomb for the future.
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya 2 December 2015 19: 50 New
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          Quote: dauria
          For this purpose, the word “Russian” should be added to the names of these areas


          No, we must remove the name "Dagestan", "Chechen", "Tatar", "Jewish", "Mordovian", "Buryat", etc. from all names, not even a hint of belonging to the territory of any nation, even Russian , though Udmurt.
          Only the area by the name of the city center. Stop laying a bomb for the future.

          That's right! SCh filing Naglosakites Lenin divided Russia according to nationality. Thus, he laid a time bomb for the destruction of the Russian Empire for the money of the Nugglo Saxon.
          1. Rivares
            Rivares 2 December 2015 20: 56 New
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            Quote: Sterlya
            SCh filing Naglosakites Lenin divided Russia according to nationality. Thus, he laid a time bomb for the destruction of the Russian Empire for the money of the Nugglo Saxon.

            Moreover, the Communists claimed that the Russians are an imperialist people, and the rest of the nation suffered from it.
            1. onix757
              onix757 2 December 2015 21: 01 New
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              Now the time has come to suffer Russian
              1. Sterlya
                Sterlya 2 December 2015 21: 09 New
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                Quote: onix757
                Now the time has come to suffer Russian

                And when did the Russians not suffer?
                Chubais, the Gorbbachevs live, etc.
                And the miracle of Medvedev is the prime minister.
        2. Kirgoudou
          Kirgoudou 2 December 2015 22: 40 New
          +1
          Transfer the whole country to the Gubernia, as has always been the case in tsarist Russia and the problem is removed.
          I completely agree with the fact that Lenin fulfilled the order of Germany, and Stalin did not correct it because he was just rushing with “hated tsarism” from returning to the provinces.
      3. nils
        nils 2 December 2015 19: 19 New
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        Quote: Vikings
        It’s necessary to carry out a competent policy,
        to stimulate the return of the Russian-speaking population


        The Stavropol Association of Refugees from Chechnya, "Compatriot" (2013), received another letter from officials. It refers to the appeal to the envoy of the North Caucasus Federal District, Alexander Khloponin, for fair compensation for housing lost during the Chechen campaigns. The state gave Russian immigrants from 20 to 120 thousand, depending on the composition of the family. Chechens - for 350 thousand.
        30 of thousands of families turned to the Federal Migration Service and submitted documents for compensation, that is, they confirmed the fact of ownership of real estate in the republic.
        However, the apartments are now at the disposal of the City Hall of Grozny, which the FMS transferred ownership of, although the procedure for such a transfer is not prescribed in the law, which means it was done illegally. And those who moved into these apartments did it illegally.
        30 of thousands of apartments is half of Grozny!
        (A small reference. The rassiyanin Alexander Khloponin is not a representative of the Russian nation.)

        Here is such a stimulation.
      4. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 3 December 2015 08: 05 New
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        Quote: Vikings
        No, not everything is simple! It’s necessary to carry out a competent policy,

        It’s too late to drink Borjomi .. what Russian will go there and especially take the family .. be realistic citizens a couple of thousand across the country, of course, there will be but 90 percent. two will leave in a year .. We can’t populate the absolutely Russian Far East, and here it’s not even a matter of dispute .. If the situation unfavorably develops in even non-Islamic autonomous regions, it becomes uncomfortable for Russians to live not only in the Caucasus, believe me, as a resident of the nat. outskirts ..
    3. aleksfill
      aleksfill 2 December 2015 18: 09 New
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      And what Hundreds of thousands of Russians returned to Chechnya?
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 2 December 2015 18: 25 New
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        Quote: aleksfill
        And what Hundreds of thousands of Russians returned to Chechnya?

        Time only heals everything. All this is not so simple. As it may seem at first glance.
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 2 December 2015 20: 11 New
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        aleksfill

        Counterquestion. And what to give them to lose the legitimacy of power?

        Any suggestions? Or myopia leads to problems in the future.
    4. good7
      good7 2 December 2015 18: 13 New
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      Maybe it requires, but a fact. Your Kadyrov recently came to Ingushetia to divide the territory! Yes, there are multinational countries and there seems to be no Russians in it!
    5. tasey
      tasey 2 December 2015 18: 15 New
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      That's it - the SAME! The author is right - Russian - CEMENT. because they are much more international than selfish as an ethnic group. Where there is no cement, there is no concrete.
    6. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 2 December 2015 18: 15 New
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      Quote: Sterlya
      We must find Kadyrov in Dagestan.

      Better than Evkurov.
      1. good7
        good7 2 December 2015 18: 25 New
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        You are right, I understand the love of Chechens for Kadyrov, but I'm sorry the Chechens kicked everyone out of the republic, even sent the Ingush to Nazran! So excuse Yevkurov the only option!
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya 2 December 2015 18: 27 New
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          I meant a person who can unite everyone. Kadyrov belongs to Chechnya. everything just seems.
      2. Rarog
        Rarog 2 December 2015 20: 25 New
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        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: Sterlya
        We must find Kadyrov in Dagestan.

        Better than Evkurov.


        Better than Ivanov (Petrova / Sidorova)
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    8. Civil
      Civil 2 December 2015 18: 19 New
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      So what's the problem? Gathered and went, who's stopping?)) Start with yourself as they say. Try it).
      1. nils
        nils 2 December 2015 18: 53 New
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        Quote: Civil
        So what's the problem? Gathered and went, who's stopping?


        Under the conditions of ethnocracy in the Caucasus, the status of second category is automatically prescribed to the Russian "and knowledge of the language and customs cannot cancel the label of" alien ".
        For Russians in closed national-territorial formations, a social and political career is practically impossible.
        The Russians are suggested that for the sake of stability, the facts of discrimination and aggression should be taken as a misunderstanding on "household grounds" (Kharagun, Sagra, Pugachev, Volsk, Saratov, Kondopoga, Pikalevo, Arzamas, Cheryomushki, Manezhnaya, Biryulyovo, Khotkovo, Salsk, Demyanovo , Zelenokumsk, Udomlya).
        State power demonstrates that the Russian question does not exist, and if it manifests itself in the behavior of individuals, it is due to intolerance and commitment to prejudice.
        Any thought and any desire to identify the specific social, cultural and everyday needs of Russians is blocked by the authorities.
        “Chechenization” is a vivid example of the “ostrich” position of state power, which has not been able to convey to the public the truth about the genocide of the Russian population and create conditions that would make it impossible to repeat this in the future.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 2 December 2015 20: 21 New
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          Nils

          Well written.

          And I will ask you a question under your sauce.

          Nazism, fascism, nationalism, corporatism, communism, socialism, democracy.

          Go to the wiki, read the definition and find the difference. I’ll say in advance, even after reading the fifth time, you won’t be able to understand what is what.

          But there is one thing in common. All of these systems, except for democracy, are under serious negativity. In addition to democracy. Why? After all, they are all alike.

          It seems that the ideas embedded in them unite.

          So what's the deal? Who needs this negative and paradox?
          1. nils
            nils 2 December 2015 21: 01 New
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            Quote: gladcu2
            So what's the deal? Who needs this negative and paradox?


            You yourself answered the question.
            Only with demonocracy, separating people with the liberal idea of ​​achieving personal comfort, is it possible to gain unlimited power, which we observe on a global scale.
            Russia is no exception. The Russian people, carrying a powerful unifying charge of Christian commandments, is an obstacle. The ritual murder of the last Russian Tsar, the discrimination of the monarchy, the transformation of the church no more than into a cult and ritual institution are stages on this path.
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 2 December 2015 21: 18 New
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              nils

              You did not correctly understand what I put the emphasis on.

              Democracy is also a temporary phenomenon. This is a form that masks current processes.

              In the end result, democracy is formally a screen of corrupt puppet states that are practically unable to control laws.

              The end result is the destruction of all states.

              Why is this needed? Look for the answer yourself.

              Only aliens leave alone. The problem has natural, earthly roots.
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    9. mihasik
      mihasik 2 December 2015 18: 20 New
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      Quote: Sterlya
      And where they require a "special" attitude, the FSB should work. Especially.

      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 2 December 2015 20: 11 New
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        Quote: mihasik
        Quote: Sterlya
        And where they require a "special" attitude, the FSB should work. Especially.


        Exactly. That's right. This is such a tangle. And it is unlikely that even the GDP knows how to proceed correctly.
        And so it's simple. Shoot down arrogance from all nationalists. But the Chechens are still nationalists.
        But they are paper nationalists. simulated.
        In short, when we have all the officials will be corrupt. And they are corrupt.
        Almost no ideology. But it is not enough.
        Will be Dagestan. Just someone's head to work too lazy.
        1. onix757
          onix757 5 December 2015 08: 55 New
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          And it is unlikely that even the GDP knows how to proceed correctly.

          So it's time to give way to those people who know. Since his ignorance can be too expensive (and already costing) the country and the Russians in particular.
    10. max702
      max702 2 December 2015 19: 34 New
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      When Russians start to leave any place, this place turns into a wild Middle Ages .. It has always been like this everywhere and always! Well, if in Ukrainians, with the departure of Russians, the line began in all areas of life, then what about the originally wild outskirts of the empire .. From the USSR, perhaps only Turkmenistan could establish its life more easily, but the Turkmens have always been among the peoples of Central Asia with white bone .. Here Has anyone seen at least one guest worker in Turkmen? I have not met ..
      1. The Chat
        The Chat 3 December 2015 11: 10 New
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        Quote: max702
        Has anyone seen at least one guest worker in Turkmen? I have not met ..


        I met .....
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 3 December 2015 12: 32 New
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          Quote: Le Chat
          I met .....

          I also met them - only in Turkey ...
    11. Altona
      Altona 2 December 2015 20: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Sterlya
      That Chechens, Bashkirs, Tatars, Nenets, Ingush, etc. do not require special treatment?

      ------------------------
      All republics strive for mono- or duetics, this is a bad trend and it is associated with the destruction of city-forming enterprises, where representatives of different nationalities worked. The system of quotas for delegation of power was also destroyed so that all nationalities were represented in the administration of the territory ...
    12. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 2 December 2015 20: 38 New
      +7
      Not only do we unfasten Kadyrov for the protection of Chechnya, do you propose that the whole country also pay money to Dagestan?
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 2 December 2015 20: 54 New
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        Quote: Nikolai K
        Not only do we unfasten Kadyrov for the protection of Chechnya, do you propose that the whole country also pay money to Dagestan?

        So rather the Dagestan "leaders" decided wassat
        In short. In Russia, democracy and everything geyropeyskoy should not ride.
        GDP to be smarter, wiser. He is our King. Therefore, he must make the right decisions. And we, stand up for Russia as always. And little will not seem to anyone. Also, as always.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 2 December 2015 21: 24 New
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          Sterlya

          I can give you a tool to solve the problem.

          There are two forms. Truth and lie.

          The truth is creating, the destructive lie.

          There is egoism and there is communism (communism, this is a form of social understanding).

          Selfishness destroys society. Mutual understanding creates.

          If you could determine the egoistic nature of the problem, this is a process of destruction.

          Spectators at the root. :)
    13. Tersky
      Tersky 2 December 2015 20: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: Sterlya
      Everything is simple. We must find Kadyrov in Dagestan.

      There are 36 nations, and each of them will want “Kadyrov” from its own .... In Chechnya it is one, hence the success of Ramzan ...
    14. Sterlya
      Sterlya 2 December 2015 21: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Sterlya
      Everything is simple. We must find Kadyrov in Dagestan.
      And do not zvizdezh about special relationships, etc.
      That Chechens, Bashkirs, Tatars, Nenets, Ingush, etc. do not require special treatment?
      Russia is a lot of national country, all require the same attitude, Simple.
      And where they require a "special" attitude, the FSB should work. Especially.

      And not any weakening. No concessions. The only way.
      Something seems to me or not in Russia of special services. or all dumb there. The trouble is shorter.
    15. Sterlya
      Sterlya 2 December 2015 21: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Sterlya
      Everything is simple. We must find Kadyrov in Dagestan.
      And do not zvizdezh about special relationships, etc.
      That Chechens, Bashkirs, Tatars, Nenets, Ingush, etc. do not require special treatment?
      Russia is a lot of national country, all require the same attitude, Simple.
      And where they require a "special" attitude, the FSB should work. Especially.

      I’m watching how many Gavnyukov want a lot of things ?!
    16. Skif83
      Skif83 3 December 2015 09: 19 New
      +2
      The second Kadyrov still needs to be found!
      And the reason, I think, is different, there is no ideology uniting and subordinating the leading elites of the regions. EP is a miserable semblance of a party. Who are its members? The entire local administration (or almost all), large officials, half-stars, etc. Those. those who are fed from the budget.
      Those. the main ideology is profit!
      No matter how much the Soviets blamed, there was a more understandable, albeit more idealistic, ideology of equality, fraternity of peoples, etc. And for the so-called nationalistic manifestations were severely punished, however, as well as for embezzlement.
      And what can unite nations now? Of course there is that, but they should work on it starting from school, etc.
      Works? More likely no than yes!
      In order for us to come to a balanced, strong, united state, we need a state ideology, if you want, a national idea that educates, first of all, young people in no way in the spirit of profit and permissiveness, unemployment and poverty!
      Otherwise, we will have what we have, unpunished local "elites", the people themselves, an unbalanced liberal economy, a drop in the level of education, health care, etc.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 2 December 2015 17: 57 New
    21
    Somewhat encouraging is the position of Vladimir Putin, who acknowledged that the exodus of Russians from the North Caucasus means the loss of skilled labor, as well as entire industries, the culture of living together. Also, the President of the Russian Federation voiced the intention of the federal center to ensure the return of people regardless of their nationality.


    The Russian people are the pillar and pivot of our state ... there will not be one, nor will RUSSIA.
    After the Gorbachev and Yeltsin reforms that were essentially destroying the Russian people, a relative calm has now set in ... wait and see what happens next.
    In the CAUCASUS, the extermination of the Russian-speaking people was in the form of genocide ... for me it is a very sore subject and my soul still hurts from the crimes that were committed there against the Russian people.
    In any case, I will maintain power and the state while it supports my people as a people and not as a silent herd.
    1. Sterlya
      Sterlya 2 December 2015 18: 07 New
      +9
      Quote: The same Lech
      The Russian people are the pillar and pivot of our state ... there will not be one, nor will RUSSIA.

      Maybe that's why Russia is called?
      And so I am a Tatar in Russia. For all other countries, Russian.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 2 December 2015 18: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: Sterlya
        Quote: The same Lech
        The Russian people are the pillar and pivot of our state ... there will not be one, nor will RUSSIA.

        Maybe that's why Russia is called?
        And so I am a Tatar in Russia. For all other countries, Russian.

        Russian is a state of mind ..! This is our POWER and POWER! For this we are respected and afraid We are united in grief and misfortune and grief for those who try to break us! hi
        1. quote
          quote 2 December 2015 19: 14 New
          +7
          that the exodus of Russians from the North Caucasus means the loss of skilled labor
          ?????? To identity will "plow" will be? N-yes.
          The outcome sounds "gloomy."
        2. Sterlya
          Sterlya 2 December 2015 20: 20 New
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: Sterlya
          Quote: The same Lech
          The Russian people are the pillar and pivot of our state ... there will not be one, nor will RUSSIA.

          Maybe that's why Russia is called?
          And so I am a Tatar in Russia. For all other countries, Russian.

          Russian is a state of mind ..! This is our POWER and POWER! For this we are respected and afraid We are united in grief and misfortune and grief for those who try to break us! hi

          Apparently, they will try to break us again.
          And I advise Russia under no "democracies" to leave the conquered territories anymore.
          You don’t think that in case of something they will conquer Us! Funny, is not it?
          The milk on the lips of these zanzants has not yet dried up to conquer us.
  3. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 2 December 2015 18: 03 New
    +3
    It is possible to live there, but this involves the fight against a gangster nursery. It is necessary to immediately drive together and live. And to be alone among a hundred other people is difficult. Therefore, it is necessary to create settlements and populate Russians en masse. Provide jobs.
    1. good7
      good7 2 December 2015 18: 15 New
      18
      The villages are dying in the Black Earth region, and you are going to populate the territory where you need to keep a gun under your pillow!
  4. venaya
    venaya 2 December 2015 18: 04 New
    10
    It is impossible to solve the tasks facing Dagestan on a fundamental change in the economic and criminal situation without the Russian population.

    And I agree with the author of the article. No wonder they killed Russians everywhere, after that it became easier to defeat our entire country. Clanism is not news, but the usual practice in those places, the second Kadyrov will not help there.
  5. kuz363
    kuz363 2 December 2015 18: 05 New
    19
    Naive dreams. How to return the Russian population? There will be no suicides. If it survives not only from the republics of the North Caucasus, but also from the Stavropol Territory! And Dagestan is a special case. Yes, soon the Stavropol Territory will be without Russians, especially KavMinVody.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 2 December 2015 18: 10 New
      +1
      C'mon, the Soviet government resolved these issues at a time. In general, I did not see any problems.
      1. vladimir_krm
        vladimir_krm 2 December 2015 20: 17 New
        +3
        Yes. My parents from Siberia were "exiled" to Kazakhstan in the 30s, before the war. To strengthen national cadres. Then the war. Father is a tanker, mother is a field surgeon, captain of a medical service. Both, fortunately, survived. I had to return there. What happened then, in the 90s, everyone knows. I am an aircraft designer, working only in large cities, by definition, I managed to "catch on" in the Donbass ... What then happened, everyone knows. It would be better if they remained in Siberia, so try to refuse ...
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 2 December 2015 21: 56 New
          +1
          Vladimir krm

          A motkh to western Ukraine.

          I have known this Western cuisine since childhood. But what is happening and the reasons only recently began to understand.
    2. Sterlya
      Sterlya 2 December 2015 18: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: kuz363
      Naive dreams. How to return the Russian population? There will be no suicides. If it survives not only from the republics of the North Caucasus, but also from the Stavropol Territory! And Dagestan is a special case. Yes, soon the Stavropol Territory will be without Russians, especially KavMinVody.

      So it’s time to put someone responsible for this region on the bunk. 20 years.
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 2 December 2015 18: 15 New
      0
      And if quotas are also introduced, then they will require the same from us.
      How does this relate to VO except the penultimate paragraph?
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 2 December 2015 18: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: lelikas
        And if quotas are also introduced, then they will require the same from us.
        How does this relate to VO except the penultimate paragraph?

        Everything related to the security and integrity of Russia is connected with HE.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 2 December 2015 18: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Sterlya
          Everything related to the security and integrity of Russia is connected with HE.


          It is connected with VO because the center figures “daish” are our fellow immigrants from the North Caucasus.
          (cry.)
          1. Sterlya
            Sterlya 2 December 2015 21: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: Sterlya
            Everything related to the security and integrity of Russia is connected with HE.


            It is connected with VO because the center figures “daish” are our fellow immigrants from the North Caucasus.
            (cry.)

            We just have loafers like the iPhone, and so on.
            The rest of Russia is still suffering how Muscovites live.
            They write the type in Bashkortostan, the average salary is 40 thousand.
            True, it is 12-25 thousand. Living on this is difficult.
            So I don’t even know. What a revolutionary situation would be!
            And she was almost there.
    4. Sober
      Sober 2 December 2015 18: 16 New
      0
      Develop resorts and invite qualified staff. There are quite resort places: Sea, mountains, mud, fortresses, beautiful places ...
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 2 December 2015 19: 48 New
        +6
        Quote: Sober
        Develop resorts and invite qualified staff. There are quite resort places: Sea, mountains, mud, fortresses, beautiful places ...

        You are right, Alexander, the places there in terms of beauty and the "spa component" are in many ways unequaled in Europe unequivocally. Here are just a couple of nuances, for the development of these regions huge amounts are needed, which the current current government will prefer to steal and "send" you to rest in Krymnash, where everything is ready. And the second quite a lot of important aspect is security, but just it is not there. He grew up in Grozny, though in Soviet, so I have a fairly clear idea of ​​what is happening at the moment in the Caucasus. And therefore, I agree with the author, the government simply turns a blind eye to what is happening in the Caucasus.
        Something like that, colleague. hi
        1. ANTI.KORR.
          ANTI.KORR. 2 December 2015 22: 03 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Some current authorities will prefer to steal and “send” you to rest in Krymnash, where everything is ready. Yes, and the second quite a lot of important aspect is security

          You very much decomposed everything and revealed the essence of what is happening.
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          And therefore, I agree with the author, the government simply turns a blind eye to what is happening in the Caucasus.

          The thing is that even within the framework of one country, we were all taken to national apartments, giving the population at the mercy of the regional "princes".
          After all, the Soviet Friendship of Peoples and their unity consisted precisely in the ethnically mixed composition of the population and in the interpenetration of cultures, traditions and customs.
          And now, for the ordinary population, they live equally badly - in Dagestan, in the Central Federal District.
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 2 December 2015 23: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: ANTI.KORR.
            You very much decomposed everything and revealed the essence of what is happening.
            Quote: Vladimir 1964

            Of course, colleague, you somewhat exaggerated my sanity, but it’s still nice to feel that someone shares your point of view.
            But in general, you’re a good colleague. Thanks for the objective attitude. soldier hi
          2. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 2 December 2015 23: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: ANTI.KORR.
            And now, for the ordinary population, they live equally badly - in Dagestan, in the Central Federal District.

            Sorry, colleague, I missed the most significant phrase in your comment, here you are absolutely right hi .
            1. ANTI.KORR.
              ANTI.KORR. 3 December 2015 05: 55 New
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              Sorry, colleague, I missed the most significant phrase in your comment, here you are absolutely right

              Buddy! drinks
              We are in the same trench! soldier
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    5. good7
      good7 2 December 2015 18: 16 New
      +2
      Stavropol Territory, and Moscow there are enough of them too?
  6. bad
    bad 2 December 2015 18: 06 New
    +2
    Cossack settlements .. give them land and weapons, they will tear anyone, they always stood on the defense of the borders and interests of the state .. nothing new ..
    1. Green1976
      Green1976 2 December 2015 18: 21 New
      +2
      The recipe is old and proven over the years.
      1. Kirgoudou
        Kirgoudou 3 December 2015 06: 43 New
        0
        It is also necessary to stimulate money!
        That hands were free, and brains were not preoccupied with worries about their daily bread.
  7. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 2 December 2015 18: 14 New
    +4
    The peoples of the Caucasus should live only mixed with the Russians, as it was before. Otherwise, an explosive mixture is obtained.
  8. kursk87
    kursk87 2 December 2015 18: 14 New
    +7
    It is very difficult for a small Russian population to live in the Caucasian republics, as the attitude of the local population towards Russians is, to put it mildly, not friendly.
    1. good7
      good7 2 December 2015 18: 31 New
      +4
      I talked with the Avar, says that upon arrival at home to visit relatives, they told her not to speak Russian, otherwise the locals might not like it! And you say populate only if the Chinese
  9. Sterlya
    Sterlya 2 December 2015 18: 23 New
    0
    Americans are also "exceptional"
  10. zinger
    zinger 2 December 2015 18: 24 New
    +1
    It’s high time to take up the protection and living conditions of Russians in Dagestan. Without highly skilled workers and employees of Russian nationality, progress is difficult.
    1. Rivares
      Rivares 2 December 2015 21: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: zinger
      without highly skilled workers and employees of Russian nationality, progress is difficult.

      Why do we need to develop them when, in gratitude, we get a knife in the back? Let them develop themselves until the Middle Ages! Why do we need to protect our own from those whom we are developing? This is suicide at the state level!
  11. Lumumba
    Lumumba 2 December 2015 18: 24 New
    +5
    The problem is effectively solved only by the "Stalinist" methods: Some "small, but proud" people are seated in railroad cars and, voluntarily and forcibly, go somewhere to Siberia to develop virgin lands and new territories. The remaining representatives are assimilated by the titular nation and live in peace and harmony. In parallel with this, all together, in a single labor impulse, they raise culture, science, industry. But we have the XNUMXst century, the century of humanism and human freedom, and no one in their right mind would go for such measures. Well this is inhumane. And "assimilation" is such a terrible word!
    1. Kaccad
      Kaccad 2 December 2015 18: 59 New
      +2
      I think there is another one, you can call it “Andropovsky” :) when different dancers in front of the eternal fires and “Chop” dzhigits begin to return to their villages in large numbers and from any other cities, or move to the Magadan mines. Those. if there are no highly qualified industries, God bless him, but nobody canceled agriculture and animal husbandry. And this is now very important!
  12. moskowit
    moskowit 2 December 2015 18: 32 New
    +2
    How much manpower and means, how many lives have been laid over the integration of the North Caucasus into Russia for more than three hundred years. Indeed, thanks to the Russian people, the peoples of the Caucasus have retained their identity, culture and languages. I remember at the beginning of the 70's I saw the book of the historian Kostromarov NI, published even under the "tsarist regime" (such a historian had never heard or read before). Leafed through, saw a reproduction of the painting "The Capture of Derbent." We knew the course of the history of the USSR from high school and the actions of the “Tsar-reformer” were mainly studied on European theater of war, so the Persian campaign of Peter opened a new page for me in the history of the Russian State (generously forgive my historical “denseness” my 40 years ago)
  13. Vikings
    Vikings 2 December 2015 18: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: Sterlya
    Quote: Vikings
    No, not everything is simple! It’s necessary to carry out a competent policy,
    to stimulate the return of the Russian-speaking population, and
    merit his interests!

    No need to incite a specialty. Dagestanis are normal. The leadership is rotten there. It’s much easier there than in Chechnya.
    And there is no point in the policy of returning the Russian-speaking population. There is no point in this. All in moderation and according to the situation.

    You confuse the shores again! Who incites? Where did you see? Or do you write for the sake of writing.
    There is still some sense in the return of our population. Maybe you can leave Siberia as well
  14. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 2 December 2015 18: 35 New
    0
    Quote: tasey
    That's it - the SAME! The author is right - Russian - CEMENT. because they are much more international than selfish as an ethnic group. Where there is no cement, there is no concrete.


    Yes, all these went ... Russia was and will be. Let them yell. We lied to that America. With the appliance. And they will not answer. Afraid. But do not be afraid - come out, leopold.
  15. Fibrizio
    Fibrizio 2 December 2015 18: 40 New
    +6
    And how did you decide in a democracy to return exactly the Russians? Any liberal will tell you that you are a racist. What other Russians? Are they better than proud Dagestanis? Yes? Then you are a racist and your words fall under 282 of the Criminal Code.
    But seriously, no one in their right mind will go there en masse. Just why? So is there a job? No. Is it safe there? No. Maybe the infrastructure is somehow special. Yes, no. And the WHO regime is there if not 150 days a year, then 50 for sure.
    Maybe there you can open a business? Hardly.
    It’s just about the return of the Russians, but what are the conditions offered? And which ones even hypothetically?
    I am 100% sure that under the current legislation it is impossible to legally assign benefits to Russians. This is how to prohibit giving a mate. capital Ethnic Tajiks with many citizenship of the Russian Federation. So they gave birth to 10 children, they gave so much to them, and the Russians gave birth to one, well, a maximum of two, and that’s all.
  16. shura7782
    shura7782 2 December 2015 18: 47 New
    +3
    I have not yet heard that people move there in a crowd. This is where the resettlement comes from. For them, no one will solve this problem. If their leadership will create the conditions for moving to them, they will seek and invite specialists, then after a short period of time has passed, some result will be.
  17. 1Vladimir
    1Vladimir 2 December 2015 18: 50 New
    +3
    And all that must be supported, appeased, begged to be good. What the hell is this.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 2 December 2015 19: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: 1Vladimir
      And all that must be supported, appeased, begged to be good. What the hell is this.


      But in general the topic kills me: why should we somehow prove that they are not camels? Ah, well these are exceptional ... Well, why should we? No, we need the Stalin Strait between Mexico and Canada.
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 December 2015 18: 51 New
    +2
    It is difficult for us to populate these places again, the population has greatly decreased. The population of Russia, referring to. You can go to the Caucasus, and even more so to Degestan, to work. We need specialists, doctors, teachers, university teachers, engineers. Allow them free possession of weapons - so that there are no defenseless rams, if that. Well that's all a dream. So far, the country does not have enough resources for this. There is a war, undeclared, but no less expensive and cruel.
    And the Caucasus - well, the Caucasus. The stronger Russia is, the quieter the Caucasus.
  19. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 2 December 2015 18: 53 New
    +2
    The return of the Russian population to the Caucasian republics is impossible, and this must be understood clearly and not build illusions about this. The only solution to the problem is to subsidize by any means, at the expense of the state, the departure of young people from these republics to study in Europe and the USA or Australia or elsewhere, but be sure to stay away from the countries spreading Islam. As experience shows, the Caucasian youth who went to study in Europe and the USA stay there and do not return home, which reduces the tension in the country due to the lack of youth as a breeding ground for radicalism, etc., and there is no need to think where to put them to work, etc. The Caucasian villages themselves, without the influx of "young blood," gradually wither themselves.
    1. Kirgoudou
      Kirgoudou 2 December 2015 19: 37 New
      +5
      Subsidize WHAT ??? WHOM?
      Potential, recruited agents of the West and the USA?
      Who do you work for, man, huh?
      Are you not yourself a recruiting agent pushing such ideas into fragile minds?
      There is a suspicion that this is exactly so! ...
      And to whom are you hanging such noodles on your ears?
  20. Kirgoudou
    Kirgoudou 2 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +3
    Everything is sewn with white thread ...
    If earlier the Russians settled, in fact they were villages and always could and had every right to repulse, including armed, any ethnic group that showed aggression against the Russians, or deception, theft and the like, now this right has simply been taken away from the Russians, but it is present under one or another form precisely in other ethnic groups.
    In Soviet times, in the USSR, order was, at the very least, but maintained with the help of the police and other bodies, where leadership positions were mainly in the hands of the Russians.
    Now nepotism is flourishing in the same police in these areas, and the leadership there is carried out by representatives of ethnic clans! Those. you can forget about the real order! Now there is "Hand, wash your hand"! - They will do everything to cover up, or to smear the relative (s).
    I’m more than sure that if the Russians get the right to use weapons and specific financial support for Russian immigrants, then the mess will stop after a while.
    But, of course, that the police must be completely changed, as well as local authorities.
    That is, to re-carry out the same expansion that was carried out in Imperial Russia.
  21. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 2 December 2015 18: 58 New
    -2
    We would try to restore order in ourselves !!! The experience is huge with Kadyrov.
  22. boris-1230
    boris-1230 2 December 2015 18: 59 New
    +3
    The principle of internationalism does not work, the Russians do not return, we have become too different. Order must be had and no particular policy.
  23. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 2 December 2015 19: 28 New
    +2
    Most of the deputies of "United Russia" in the regions that declared real estate in Turkey, as RBC found out, are in no hurry to sell it. The leaders of the factions of "United Russia" in the regions advise them to abandon this asset

    Read more at RBC:
    http://www.rbc.ru/politics/02/12/2015/565ed1319a794753277ac080


    Clan Edrossov will be abruptly all clans!
  24. bubla5
    bubla5 2 December 2015 19: 34 New
    +2
    All Russians will live well, other nations will live well, but for now all former hucksters and communist leaders, along with the Komsomol leaders, will live well
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 2 December 2015 19: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: bubla5
      All Russians will live well, other nations will live well, but for now all former hucksters and communist leaders, along with the Komsomol leaders, will live well

      I was a Komsomol member! You write it, but not so categorically ... hi
      1. Tanya Ya
        Tanya Ya 3 December 2015 07: 20 New
        +1
        MIKHAN, so now all or former Krsomolets (Komsomol) or former bandits in power recourse Or are you against it?
  25. Oquz
    Oquz 2 December 2015 19: 46 New
    -6
    Derbent is an Azerbaijani city, not a Persian one!
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 2 December 2015 19: 53 New
      0
      Read Wikipedia or something. It is popularly written there. Then you can find out something from Herodotus. It will be a bit before AD ...
    2. 12571752dima
      12571752dima 2 December 2015 20: 12 New
      +5
      Only the Chinar refrigerator was “Azerbaijani” (it was rare). bully
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  26. Cobra77
    Cobra77 2 December 2015 19: 50 New
    +1
    What do you want now? No more Soviet power. There is no friendship of peoples. There is no secular state, or rather, almost none. But there is nationalism. There is an Islamization of the Caucasus (and I'm not talking about ISIS and Wahhabis). There is a transition to religiosity as traditional values. And traditional values ​​are not a religion (no matter what). And Mr. Kadyrov, no matter how much he is needed and useful for Chechnya at the moment, is simply a lesser evil. Because In fact, Chechnya is now an Islamic republic within the Russian Federation. So even put in the head of Dagestan Kadyrov 2, this does not change the situation there. There will be no more Russians; they will continue to flee from there. And he will not break the clan system; he himself is the flesh from the flesh of the clan system. In fact, in the next 20 years, nothing fundamentally different can be done there without force. You can’t put a Russian there right now, as a result we get a war. The memory of the Chechen wars and the freemen of the 90s is too fresh. So at the moment, the only thing that you can look for Kadyrov 2 for Dagestan. Only less hot than the original. That at least the region would be more stable and calm.
  27. hartlend
    hartlend 2 December 2015 20: 31 New
    +1
    There is such a thing - national state policy. We are now reaping the benefits of national policies pursued by Western proteges. Too many in power and in the bureaucracy. Even dictatorships are difficult to penetrate, not to mention the current democratic methods.
  28. DON-100
    DON-100 2 December 2015 23: 42 New
    0
    "..Dagestan remained an Iranian province for another seven years... "
    What nonsense! The author should know that Dagestan was never an Iranian province. In the 18th century, the Persians, led by the famous Nadir Shah, made several trips to the mountainous Dagestan in order to conquer it, but in the end they were defeated by the combined forces of the Dagestan highlanders. As for the departure of Russians from Dagestan, not only Russians are leaving, but also indigenous Dagestanis, and the main reason is the economic condition of the republic.
  29. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 3 December 2015 05: 48 New
    +1
    To the credit of the Dagestanis in 1999, most of them opposed Basayev and Khattab.
  30. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 3 December 2015 09: 33 New
    +1
    The main reason for all current conflicts on a national basis is the lack of a nation-wide ideology, everyone knows it well. Only now, after 25 years, the GDP has begun to deal with this issue. Now there are noticeable advances on this issue, our "liberals" are the main adversary, that they call themselves the elite, because over the past years “wandering in the dark” they have well mastered one of the fundamental principles of capitalism - “divide and conquer”, get rich (catching a goldfish is always better in troubled waters!). I consider them to be the main enemies of Russia: “shift workers”, “effective managers”, “swamps” and, naturally, “office hamsters-bureaucrats.” Without a national ideology, strengthening national values, a family, educating the younger generation, and state support for resolving issues of improving the demographic situation, we just don't survive. We must firmly recognize that “no one but us” will solve these issues.