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US squeezes Germany from the Baltic arms market

US squeezes Germany from the Baltic arms market

An interesting struggle between the USA and Germany is on the Baltic armament market. It would seem that this is an exaggeration, but we are talking about a deal for half a billion euros, which is not so little, especially for Lithuania, whose military budget in 2015 amounted to only 425 million euros, and in 2016 will increase by almost a third, to about 575 million euros. As for the deal itself, it’s about the supply of approximately 100 German Boxer combat armored vehicles, or 84 of American Stryker. Interestingly, the decision to purchase Boxer has already been made, but at the last moment the Americans fit into the game, as the US Department of State gave permission for the deal. The armed forces of Lithuania want to get cars in a complete set with heavy weapons, which brings the products closer to the category of wheeled infantry fighting vehicles (BMP), rather than armored personnel carriers (APCs). The Boxer is offered with the 30-mm Rheinmetall MK 30-2 / ABM automatic cannon on an uninhabited tower, the Stryker is also expected to be bundled with an 30mm gun.

The very idea of ​​acquiring such a large consignment of weapons for Lithuania caused a scandal, for example, in September, the director of the Lithuanian Defense Industry Association, former commander of the Lithuanian army, Lieutenant General Valdas Tutkus, resigned on his own will. In his opinion, the price of the German Boxer is overstated by no less than 35%, and the decision was purely political. After the appearance of information about the American Stryker, the Lithuanian media began to make trouble, now standing up to defend the "German". Reached and frankly unprofessional attacks: for example, that the Stryker is an outdated machine, while the exemplary version cited the Swiss wheeled armored vehicle Piranha (now the manufacturer purchased the American General Dynamics), which in fact was the predecessor of the Stryker.

What is better - Boxer or Stryker?

If you approach the problem objectively, then the choice is actually not easy. Boxer almost 2 times heavier (33 tons), and 8 luck paratroopers, whereas Stryker luck 9 people landing with a mass of about 18 tons. Thus, the German car is closer to the concept of the BMP, with a more powerful booking, while the American competitor is an armored personnel carrier with powerful weapons, with all the conventionality of this classification. For Lithuania, it would be more interesting to buy heavier Boxers, since there are no vehicles of this class in its armament, whereas according to various sources, the army of the Baltic state has in service from 130 to 200 units of obsolete American armored personnel carriers M113A1.

Nothing personal it's just business

Nevertheless, there is little doubt that the Americans will sell the deal at the expense of political leverage, depriving their German NATO allies of the opportunity to "earn extra money." Indeed, now the very policy of creating the myth of the “Russian threat” is beginning to bear fruit, thanks to which it was possible to achieve a noticeable increase in the military budgets of many Western countries, although before the Ukrainian crisis they all fell steadily. This policy worked especially successfully in Northern Europe, including the Baltic states. Countries are offered a “demo” in the form of small units of the US and NATO forces, such as several tanks M1A2 Abrams and BMD Bradley in Estonia. In the case of NATO fighters patrolling the airspace of the three Baltic states, the terms of the "free period" are almost drawing to a close - since September, the number of aircraft permanently based in Lithuania and Estonia has decreased by 2 times - from 16 to 8.

As for the financial losses for the German military-industrial complex when the transaction was disrupted, they will be serious - in 2014, the amount of military exports amounted to approximately 4 billion euros, that is, the sale of Boxers for 500 million euros would be about 12,5% of annual exports. In general, finding a market for arms exports for Germany is a big problem - getting permission for deliveries abroad (outside NATO and the EU) is getting harder every year: this is the policy of German Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel.

Thus, for the Baltic market, the Germans have so far been able to "push through" only 155-mm self-propelled howitzers Pzh-2000 in the number of 21 units from the composition of the troops. But the amount here is much more modest - 16 million euros.

The acquisition of expensive weapons - an even greater loss of independence of the Balts

The tendency to increase military budgets is observed in all three Baltic republics: Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia. All these countries are planning to increase spending on the “military commuter” to 2% of GDP This happens under pressure from the United States and on the basis of myths about resurgent “red commies”, and this is with all the economic problems of these countries.

Another logical question is how a country with a military budget of 575 million euros (Lithuania) can afford to conclude a deal for almost all this amount at once? After all, most of the budget is spent on the maintenance of the army, and not on purchases. Apparently, the equipment will be paid for with credit funds - which will make it possible to drive the country into even greater debts and even more efficiently manipulate it.

Arms purchase with balts will not change the balance of power in the region

With all due respect to the armed forces of the Baltic countries - an effective confrontation of Russia for them is an impossible dream, moreover, it is also meaningless: as we have already noted above, anti-Russian hysteria pursues political and economic goals, not security issues. Nevertheless, it should be noted that in the light of the purchase of new armored vehicles and self-propelled guns, the combat capability of the Lithuanian Armed Forces will be noticeably higher than that of Estonia or Latvia.

As for the US troops, "temporarily" located on the territory of these countries, their numbers are very small, and they will be quickly destroyed in a hypothetical conflict with Russia. This is acknowledged, for example, by US retired Colonel Douglas MacGregor, who presented the scenarios of the attack of the Russian Federation on the Baltic countries to the Committee on Military Affairs of the US Congress - in his opinion, the forces currently in Europe will be defeated as soon as possible.

The armed forces of the Baltic countries will be able to put up against the "red aggressor" about 23 thousand people who are not armed with any tanks (although why, Latvia has 3 long-obsolete T-55s written off as training units), in fact the missing air forces forces and air defense. Taking into account all planned purchases, the Baltic states will have an army equipped with approximately 300 armored vehicles and the same number of artillery and mortars. All this against the background of the Western Military District, which includes 40% of the personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, causes only a smile. But if we talk about a limited conflict - in a global or even regional conflict, the role of the Baltic states will be insignificant, they can become only a battlefield for giants, therefore, consider these scenarios in the light of the latter News not worth it.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 1 December 2015 06: 02
    the Baltic states are panicking, imagine seeing this in the morning !: Residents of the small town of Aizpute in western Latvia were scared by a Russian who rides through the streets in a tank. This was reported by the transfer of Bez tabu, TV3.
    The tank, judging by the pictures, is the T-54 or T-55, belongs to a wealthy Russian citizen who registered military equipment as a tractor.

    Journalists tried to communicate with the "tanker", but could not find him at home. According to the guard, in a tank that is not combat-ready, they drove around the city “a couple of times” and now it is “in winter”.

    Residents are unhappy with the actions of the Russian. Also, local police became interested in riding a tank. / photo
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    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 1 December 2015 06: 21
      The tank, judging by the pictures, is the T-54 or T-55, belongs to a wealthy Russian citizen who registered military equipment as a tractor.
      1. Artyom
        Artyom 1 December 2015 11: 31
        weapons to the Baltic states will be delivered by the one who allocates credit! America stands out, it sells weapons too! nothing personal just a business!
  2. st25310
    st25310 1 December 2015 06: 02
    Ukraine has already received from the United States a part of military equipment unsuitable for use.


    Balts you next! laughing
  3. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 1 December 2015 06: 16
    Well, everything is right business is business and NATO is NATO, grandmas rule laughing
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 December 2015 06: 31
    An interesting struggle between the USA and Germany flares up on the Baltic arms market

    Honestly, I don't care who wins in this market. In any case, they plan to use the technique against us. Another thing is that Germany can understand a simple truth - the United States is a "friend" when this "friend" needs something (sanctions against Russia, information war in German media, etc.).
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 1 December 2015 06: 51
    Who will ride on this technique, how and how will it serve? The invincible Livonians may not even get an airborne assault on these miracle machines, and the content will fly a pretty penny. Well, the money is not ours, let them climb further into bondage.
    1. whiteeagle
      whiteeagle 1 December 2015 12: 26
      Poland also offered Lithuania the sale of Rosomak armored combat vehicles. Lithuanians must choose from Poland, because the Poles will be the main force of NATO, which will protect Lithuania. Weapons must be compatible. Slovakia has already chosen Rosomak. Now there are negotiations with Lithuania and Bulgaria.
  6. Good cat
    Good cat 1 December 2015 07: 09
    Indeed, it doesn’t give a damn about who will bring their technique to the Chukhites, their combat effectiveness will not grow from this!
  7. ARES623
    ARES623 1 December 2015 07: 33
    The Yankees are strangling Europe openly, and she does not resist, no matter what pose she poses. About balts, in general, no question. These themselves will sit on a stake, even for free, if only Barak (like him) would not frown. Germany, of course, is a powerful, but limp country. And the industrial sector, to a large extent, belongs no longer to the Germans. And dozens of US military bases on its territory do not contribute to the development of sovereignty. And therefore, in general, the country is pro-American, even more so than France. The United States has done its best to ensure that the interests of Germany and Russia do not converge.
  8. City
    City 1 December 2015 07: 52
    Good Scam - metal for the price of technology !!! wassat
    Ostap Bender smokes nervously ... bully
  9. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 1 December 2015 08: 14
    Here are fools, they can’t feed the country but they buy weapons, and even scrap metal fool
  10. Denis DV
    Denis DV 1 December 2015 08: 24
    I remembered about kukryniksy laughing
  11. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 1 December 2015 09: 00
    Only the West can come up with such ugly safes on wheels! For anti-tank missiles, what is this, what is that shell on wheels ..
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 1 December 2015 11: 24
      Quote: dchegrinec
      Only the West can come up with such ugly safes on wheels!

      Quote: dchegrinec
      For anti-tank missiles, what is this, what is that shell on wheels ..

      For ATGMs in general, the vast majority of technology - wheeled shell.
    2. opus
      opus 4 December 2015 01: 10
      Quote: dchegrinec
      Only the West can come up with such ugly safes on wheels!

      What's the Stryker MGS ugly?

      Or in GTK (IFV, etc.) Boxer?

      / No, this Fahrschulpanzer GTK Boxer is certainly original, but the point is not in beauty, this is a training

      Like our "handsome"?

      1. opus
        opus 4 December 2015 01: 14
        Quote: dchegrinec
        For anti-tank missiles, what is this, what is that shell on wheels ..

        We have worse

        Boxer IFV
        The main body of the armored vehicle consists of an armored steel, and is equipped with "modular armor", it provides protection against bullets and fragments of artillery shells and anti-tank mines.
        Integrated security system, which is already in the basic configuration of the BTR, unifying:

        Mine protection (against anti-tank and anti-personnel mines)
        All-round ballistic protection against ammunition up to caliber 14,5 mm and 30 ° in height
        Protection against fragments of bombs and artillery shells
        When a machine is hit, its mobility is not impaired.
  12. Belousov
    Belousov 1 December 2015 09: 05
    Well, really great! And I can easily explain why. The more the Balts spend on armaments, the earlier the economy collapses, the sooner the EU and the IMF begin "aid", the sooner they will die out. besides, another spit at the Germans also fills the cup. Yes, now and in the near future they will not answer in any way, but the "sediment" will remain good
    1. aba
      aba 1 December 2015 22: 06
      the sooner they die out.

      But their territory after extinction will not be occupied by us.
  13. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 1 December 2015 09: 08
    What kind of arms market is this? What is its capacity. Half a dozen tanks, a helicopter and a dozen jeeps? And even those provided for free, since there is nothing to pay to the Balts.
    1. aba
      aba 1 December 2015 22: 10
      Half a dozen tanks, a helicopter and a dozen jeeps?

      By the way, the military parade in Latvia, in Lithuania is hardly better.
      Enjoy! laughing

  14. zekaze1980
    zekaze1980 1 December 2015 09: 17
    The Baltic states have been and will be a place for the games of large states, and their role is assigned to service, because it has always been so.
  15. Homos
    Homos 1 December 2015 09: 42
    But what about fair competition, free market and other mantras of our ADVANCED public? Here you have buckets of slop and a "strange coincidence" when more protected vehicles with comparable weapons are cheaper, but they no longer want to take them. It's scary to think, but in the Baltics there is ... corruption (he says with a breath)
  16. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 1 December 2015 10: 40
    Please do not tell me that the arms "tenders" in the Baltic states are a story of a covert struggle of all against all, and no one cares about the result. The main task is to "wave" and cut, as teachers, doctors and mothers to feed everyone on the drum. The last tender without the participation of intermediaries was about 20 years ago, the organizer has long been retired. It is still very difficult to go from licking handouts to serious purchases.
    Well, it was given under the leadership of the American Komsomol, it’s generally amazing how they remembered the Germans.
    They had decided to save the coalition before their participation ...
  17. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 December 2015 10: 42
    You don’t really roll a barrel to the Baltic people, otherwise they will be offended, and again they will succumb to the forest brothers. fellow lol fellow
  18. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 1 December 2015 11: 13
    As the saying goes, friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart.
  19. Aitvaras
    Aitvaras 1 December 2015 11: 27
    If Finland had in 1939 a serious Anglo-French Expeditionary Corps, then I think the USSR is unlikely to start a war against Finland. The balance of power between the Baltic countries and Russia, as the author accurately noted, is roughly the same as it was during the Finnish war, between the USSR and Finland. And the Baltic countries now offer to deploy several NATO tank brigades with full logistics support and air defense cover.
    In the article, the author inaccurately indicated the latest Lithuania’s decisions on the procurement of infantry fighting vehicles. The latest competitors are the German Boxer and the Swiss Piranha.
    1. adena
      adena 1 December 2015 15: 09
      No one will ever save the Baltic dwarf tigers, they are in a permanent state of "elusive joe". Hans, Chukhna and Labus are not needed by anyone, both in terms of conquest and in terms of protection (so no one became for the Finns, except for the Finns themselves). Russians do not need traitors at the genetic level, but the new owners keep Hans, Chukhnu and Labus for who they really are, for useless yapping freaks. Who, in their right mind, will fight for the characters from the Kunstkamera?
    2. Archon
      Archon 1 December 2015 17: 35
      The most reasonable thing that the Baltic countries could so dear to their sovereignty could be is not to buy military equipment, but to build military fortifications, bunkers and powerful firing points in both directions (west and east). Suppose that at one time they would have cost more than military equipment, but in the future it would be cheaper to maintain, much stronger and more efficient. And of the weapons - small arms, anti-tank and anti-aircraft.
      1. Dam
        Dam 1 December 2015 19: 20
        Yeah, you seem to have fresh data on the tactics of modern warfare!
        1. Archon
          Archon 6 December 2015 16: 36
          Just an opinion from the outside. What is your option?
  20. varangian
    varangian 1 December 2015 11: 54
    well 23 is also a lot
  21. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 1 December 2015 12: 41
    We stock up on popcorn and look forward to the collapse of the German defense industry.
  22. NDR-791
    NDR-791 1 December 2015 16: 17
    US squeezes Germany from the Baltic arms market
    And why not squeeze out - privileges, loans, discounts, free training ... So the Baltic States came across. At the exit - the 80 year’s humvee with plastic doors, plexus instead of glass and dried rubber. Well, like Ukraine, in short. And what? Nothing personal just business!!!
  23. Taygerus
    Taygerus 1 December 2015 17: 35
    Germany will wash, cry into a pillow and then go to lick the black lord’s handle
  24. python2a
    python2a 1 December 2015 18: 01
    The Baltic states have transformed from the prosperous republics of the USSR to the American garbage dump.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 December 2015 16: 35
      I drove in the summer. Not Switzerland, but in the trash
      not at all like that. Very decent, the restaurants are good,
      people are calm, polite.
  25. Dam
    Dam 1 December 2015 19: 23
    But two combat bicycles and three rowing patrol corvettes (Pell type) will significantly change the balance of power in the Baltic theater of operations
  26. kovalev2015
    kovalev2015 2 December 2015 10: 19
    It is time for Germany to prove who is the master in Europe
  27. Kirgoudou
    Kirgoudou 3 December 2015 17: 17
    USA wipes Germany from Baltic arms buyers!
    There is a debate about how many bicycles and scooters the Baltic Army will purchase.
    Motivating with its 6th fleet, the United States intends to sell 20 more rubber boats this time to the Baltic Navy!
    Latvian artillerymen decided to exchange prickly brooms, imitating gun trunks, for shovel shanks.
    Germany has not lost this position to the United States. And varnished the cuttings!
  28. Kirgoudou
    Kirgoudou 3 December 2015 17: 27
    Something about the Baltic deltoplanom bombers silent ...
    Apparently classified.
  29. Mushroom
    Mushroom April 20 2016 05: 35
    Sorry, Balts, but I don’t think that even anyone on the planet cares what you arm yourself with