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Reflections on Russia in general and Putin in particular

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I have long wanted to express this thought out loud. I still could not formulate it, or maybe I was just afraid to get into a topic in which I am clearly not an expert. But still I will express it.


In general, it is believed that a person does not forget anything, just some of the information is stored (if compared with a computer) in long-term memory, somewhere in the archive on a hard disk. Well, what we "remember" is what we need now and is in RAM. But I have a feeling that many people had some kind of strange failure. We remember what happened during the Soviet Union, what happened during the reign of V.V. Putin, remember, and what was between - how it cut off.

How do I make such a conclusion? Yes, at least with the phrase that Putin and the Company do nothing to develop the economy, but only trade in resources, etc. So I have a question: don't you remember what state he took in the country? But I remember a fan blackout when it was turned on for 2 hours in the morning and evening. I remember turning off the heating for two months in the winter. I remember the food stamps, how the Kamchatka Shipping Company disappeared, how in Ust-Kamchatsk houses were dismantled for firewood. I remember the "brothers and foremen" who could be met at every corner.

Or did I dream it?

If you listen to the speeches of the current inhabitants, then Putin ruined the country and brought all the money abroad, he gave our minerals to foreign companies, he ruined all the state-owned enterprises and sold them. He grabbed loans from the IMF and then he drank something, and he distributed something to his friends. Not a man, but simply a hellish demon ...

In this context, it is impossible to perceive a person who is shouting that it is necessary to raise the economy and production, except as an idiot. You can ask the question, what chichi could this be done 15 years ago? A heap of debts hangs on the country, a zero economy, everything that is extracted, is exported abroad, and the money remains there. Or was it not like that?

Has everybody really forgotten that he made GDP first when he came to power? Forgot your subsoil law? Forgot who are Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Abramovich and others? Now we can be indignant that Miller gets almost ten million salaries. I personally am up to the star, how much he earns, the main thing is that unlike the above, Miller earns money for the state.

Have you ever wondered where the country whose economy is in stagnation, or how it sounds right, has money for the modernization of the army? For what money are state-owned enterprises being restored? Lost Putin's "We made them an offer they could not refuse"? Well, so those who refused, as in the verses - "Some do not exist, but those already far away ..."

You can often hear the phrase that in Russia there is a shadow economy in the foreign press and at the singing along with domestic bottling. I will say this: it is really shadow, but not the shadow that is criminal. What do you think, only you know how to hide income in order to avoid taxes? I think Putin’s guys on the team are no less cunning. And it’s not difficult to guess what proposal was voiced for the oligarchs. And now the seasoned analysts from the economy are sitting and still can’t get together, like this - it’s already like a crisis should come, there are all kinds of sanctions and default, but in reality it's the other way around. What money Tanks, submarines, rockets, planes and where is it all being built? Everything is destroyed here, and we sell only oil. Yes, because gladiolus! They only see what they are shown, and they shove us tighter info.

Information is akin to food. Someone assimilates normally, with benefits for the body. And someone cleanly recycles waste. Each, as they say, his own. But making a cult out of one’s own misunderstanding of the situation is just silly.

Maybe someone will say that I'm wrong, but I believe my eyes. Every day I drive a car along the Artyom-Vladivostok road and see how enterprises are built, some shops, logistics centers, private and multi-storey houses, how many ships come to Vladivostok, how many loaded trains pass by. I agree that the ruble has fallen and all that, but this has had little effect on me ... But to say that everything is bad, I would not. No worse than in any country "enlightened" Europe. Only LGBT posters in the corners are not worth it.

By the way, in the Chernozem region, too, not everything is so sad. But in order to understand this, you just need to get off the couch and drive 200 kilometers in any direction. Yes, this is not given to everyone, but what is the fault of the workers, if the critics do not see further than their own sofa? And there is something to see. And the fields that ten years ago weed overgrown with weeds, and the equipment that works in these fields. And agricultural enterprises that really grow like mushrooms.

Do not see or do not want to see? You do not want. Because it is necessary to criticize.

In general, it is poorly understood, what do you, the critics, generally need? Write about an immediate nuclear strike on Turkey in the light of recent events can only really Klitschko man, who only eats into the head. We here also really think to her, therefore we do not react to such cries. But in our country, unfortunately, for every outspoken fool who wants someone (of course, not him, his front behind the monitor) to go and admonish adversaries around the world at his will.

Thank God that Putin is far away and he does not hear frank fools.

One more thing. Many urge to stop investing money in the army. Gentlemen, I can only say one thing: in the current world, if you are not able to knock out your teeth, you will not be able to develop the economy. The world lives according to the laws of the criminal. Tomorrow a dude in leather will come to you ... I apologize, in uniform, with a gun, on a tank and you will earn money for him, not for yourself. So that something, but really pressing the business and raider attacks, our "partners" know how to do well.

As the president of Russia behaves in our very difficult time, for some reason, we are satisfied with our part of the people. Apparently, because we can not only look, but also see. Not only listen, but also hear.

We do not shout "Hurray!" on every occasion, we do not call for "wetting devils everywhere and everywhere." We do not demand to unleash a nuclear war and ruin our fellow citizens by the thousands in Ukraine or in Syria. We just want to live in Russia, which may be tomorrow.

Vladivostok - Voronezh.
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  1. venaya
    venaya 30 November 2015 05: 48 New
    -8
    We just want to live in the Russia that may be tomorrow.

    It just won't work. Too many people earn their fortunes on robberies, military actions (war in any form, economic including) is just one of the ways to increase their fortune, nothing more.
    1. Finches
      Finches 30 November 2015 06: 12 New
      13
      Article on the topic:"Life has become better, comrades. Life has become more fun.", but continuing not without a well-known phrase further:"When life is more fun, work is good!"...,actually! laughing
      True, the same author had another thought, stated in the article:"Dizzy with success"...!
      1. venaya
        venaya 30 November 2015 06: 24 New
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        Quote: Finches
        An article on the topic: "Life has become better, comrades. Life has become more fun."

        Esoi would not be Putin (I know a little about him not from the press) whether we could say something like this: "Life has become better, comrades. Life has become more fun." It was his, perhaps a compromise war, that allowed us to get out of the pit into which our country was driven by its destroyers. The article will supplement the already known facts, therefore the article (+).
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        2. Baikonur
          Baikonur 30 November 2015 11: 53 New
          +2
          Putin really plows in like a galley slave, like no one! Lives on a plane!

          Join the
          The article will be supplemented by already known facts, therefore the article (+).
        3. Skif83
          Skif83 30 November 2015 14: 25 New
          +8
          Putin is a controversial figure.
          In one thing, I will support the author of the article, that the army should always be fully armed!
          Regarding the collapse of the country, how it was adopted by the GDP, etc., let me object.
          I repeat, under Stalin, the country was raised from the ruins twice in more difficult conditions, in a shorter time ...
          What are the great construction projects, hydroelectric power stations, heavy industry, machine tool construction, etc.
          Didn't they abandon the base in Cam Ranh (the largest in the world), from the base in Cuba during GDP? Didn't the Kursk "drown" under him? Was it not his minister the stooltkin who was breaking up the army? Didn't they ruin health care and education under him, and continue to do so?
          Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Abramovich were mentioned here ...
          So what? Did they return everything to the state treasury? No, just another redistribution of what was stolen happened.
          And I don't care how much the state earns. an official, while there are homeless people in the country, street children, while old people eke out a miserable existence, until the growth of public services stops ...
          Once again, Putin is ambiguous, there are shifts, but who prevented the petrodollars of past years from being used to boost the economy, who is preventing him from abandoning the liberal, so-called. "Elity", which hangs like a stone around the neck of the people?
          Who is preventing the introduction of a progressive taxation scale? Does anyone else believe that the homegrown oligarchs earned everything with "backbreaking" work?
          In my opinion, Putin's main mistake is in his statement that if the current elite is removed from power, where to get others? Here is shuffled a worn-out deck of current and former would-be ministers, for no reason, without answering.
          It is necessary to change the ineffective government and the elite, talk about their indispensability, at least cunning!
          And criticism is needed, without it there is no progress.
          1. IS-80
            IS-80 30 November 2015 14: 39 New
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            Quote: Skif83
            Who is preventing the introduction of a progressive taxation scale?

            You are in the way.
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      3. guzik007
        guzik007 30 November 2015 08: 50 New
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        An article on the topic: "Life has become better, comrades
        ----------------------------------------------
        No, you didn't understand a little. The author's thought, just a passing thought, is that, in his opinion, Putin has created an ingenious banking system, the essence of which is that there is a "white" budget for reporting to the IMF and the Central Bank, which, as you know, hold our economy by the throat; and there is a shadow budget, whose money is in full swing for real strategic needs.
        Considering what kind of confusion Buhoy entered the country into, having constitutionally formalized the independence of the Central Bank from the country's leadership, this is the only option for independence and freedom of maneuver, although, of course, not ideal. Maybe that's why corruption and embezzlement have flourished. and Putin is forced to close his eyes to this. Losing tactics-winning strategy.
        1. zao74
          zao74 1 December 2015 07: 27 New
          +1
          Putin has created an ingenious banking system, the essence of which is that there is a "white" budget to report to the IMF and the Central Bank, which, as you know, hold our economy by the throat; and there is a shadow budget, whose money is in full swing for real strategic needs.
          A very interesting version, an article plus but ... do you really think the IMF is a blind fool?
      4. andj61
        andj61 30 November 2015 09: 04 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Article on the topic:"Life has become better, comrades. Life has become more fun.", but continuing not without a well-known phrase further:"When life is more fun, work is good!"...,actually! laughing
        True, the same author had another thought, stated in the article:"Dizzy with success"...!

        I can't agree with you, I can't!
        And the authors have their own truth - and it is extremely difficult to refute it. Near all large cities, like mushrooms, heaps of small (sometimes, by the way, very large) enterprises grow, in which money is not invested in walls - walls are made in the form of pre-fabricated insulated hangars - but in equipment and personnel training. And it works all over the country.
        There are a lot of agricultural enterprises, but here the enterprises are efficient, namely large ones - but this is true for the whole world. There are a lot of poultry farms, piglets are bred, beef cows are raised with stallless keeping - round in the open air. Ten years ago, none of this happened.
        But at the same time, large enterprises, where 15-20 thousand people worked in the USSR, barely survive, and in separate industries, it really sucks in the social sphere.
        But for the first time after the collapse of the USSR, microcircuits began to be produced again - production was restored.
        1. IS-80
          IS-80 30 November 2015 09: 31 New
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          Quote: andj61
          There are a lot of agricultural enterprises, but here the enterprises are efficient, namely large ones - but this is true for the whole world.

          Wow. And the cry was about farmers. And about the fact that the Bolsheviks were fools when they created collective farms.
          Quote: andj61
          There are a lot of poultry farms, piglets are bred, beef cows are raised with stallless keeping - round in the open air. Ten years ago, none of this happened.

          Yes, all this is being done, but we have not yet returned to the level of the USSR.
          Quote: andj61
          But at the same time, large enterprises, where 15-20 thousand people worked in the USSR, barely survive, and in separate industries, it really sucks in the social sphere.

          Here's another problem. After modernization of production, a large number of people are left behind. And the social sphere is systematically destroyed.
          1. andj61
            andj61 30 November 2015 11: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: IS-80
            Quote: andj61
            There are a lot of agricultural enterprises, but here the enterprises are efficient, namely large ones - but this is true for the whole world.
            Wow. And the cry was about farmers. And about the fact that the Bolsheviks were fools when they created collective farms.

            Neither in the Russian Empire nor under the USSR did small farms provide marketable products - it was the large farms that provided it. Collective farms, by the way, for the most part, especially before consolidation in the 60s-70s, were not such large commercial farms. Like the individual farmers of the times of the empire, they were just working on themselves, and there was little real way out - I can personally judge by the Non-Black Earth Region.
            Quote: IS-80
            Quote: andj61
            There are a lot of poultry farms, piglets are bred, beef cows are raised with stallless keeping - round in the open air. Ten years ago, none of this happened.
            Yes, all this is being done, but we have not yet returned to the level of the USSR.

            And we do not need to return to the level of the USSR. We are now much smaller - it is easier to feed, and there is no need to feed half of the world. Chickens that were under the USSR - now no one would have eaten them, it was not for nothing that they were called “blue birds.” Commodity mass livestock breeding then only began to develop, and in the notorious collective farms, for the most part, there were cows and pigs that had nothing in common with the achievements of breeding presented at VDNKh - they were the descendants of those "collectivized" cows and pigs. Although, of course, there were other examples - in 1980 he was in a construction brigade repairing cowsheds in which breeding cows were raised, artificially fertilized and transferred to collective farms. So some of these cows at the time of transfer to the state farm were larger than some collective farm bulls, and at least twice as many collective farm cows.
            Naturally, under the USSR, all people were busy, there was no unemployment, no one thought about the real efficiency of production and the efficiency of using labor resources, they also did not chase profit especially - the working conditions did not require this, not like now.
            But now we are, nevertheless, going forward. Slowly, somewhat inconsistent and not as we would like - but it is happening. And a lot has changed over the past 10-15 years.
            1. kotvov
              kotvov 30 November 2015 11: 57 New
              +3
              But now we are, nevertheless, going forward. Slowly, somewhat inconsistent,
              especially happy with how RUSNANO is moving, with the unforgettable Chubais.cho everything is in business.
            2. IS-80
              IS-80 30 November 2015 12: 01 New
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              Quote: andj61
              And we do not need to return to the level of the USSR. We are now much smaller - it is easier to feed, and there is no need to feed half of the world.

              Yeah in the RSFSR in 1989 it was 147,4 now in the Russian Federation 146,2 is much less. I would say at times.
              And as far as I remember the cattle is three times less. And what is bad about feeding half the world? These are jobs, money for the budget. Of course, if the feed is not free.
              Quote: andj61
              But now we are, nevertheless, going forward.

              To be honest, we are going backwards. We were ahead until 1991, although then the USSR had many problems and the country was in a serious crisis.
              1. andj61
                andj61 30 November 2015 13: 48 New
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                Quote: IS-80
                Quote: andj61
                And we do not need to return to the level of the USSR. We are now much smaller - it is easier to feed, and there is no need to feed half of the world.
                Yeah in the RSFSR in 1989 it was 147,4 now in the Russian Federation 146,2 is much less. I would say at times.

                In 1989 there were 272 million of us, and the rest of the republics did not make a huge contribution to the common piggy bank - they were fed.
                Quote: IS-80
                And as far as I remember the cattle is three times less. And what is bad about feeding half the world? These are jobs, money for the budget. Of course, if the feed is not free.

                It was that they were fed free of charge, they were given free weapons, foodstuffs, irrecoverable loans - as soon as any local leader declared that he was building socialism.
                Of course, there were more cattle. Thank you for reducing the EBN livestock.
                We have straightened the situation with regard to poultry and pigs - we will also straighten out the situation with cattle, there are opportunities.
                Naturally, with the starting conditions of 1991, without that thoughtless policy of the 90s, everything could be straightened out much easier and easier.
                But we have what we have. I did not say at all that under the USSR it was worse and generally bad, I said that now the situation in these areas is improving - and there is no need to indiscriminately find fault with everything. True - one cannot but agree - our government is extremely irritating with its thoughtlessness and toothlessness. The impression is that everything positive happens not due to the government's activities, but in spite of it.
            3. Altona
              Altona 30 November 2015 12: 15 New
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              Quote: andj61
              Naturally, under the USSR, all people were busy, there was no unemployment, no one thought about the real efficiency of production and the efficiency of using labor resources, they also did not chase profit especially - the working conditions did not require this, not like now.
              But now we are, nevertheless, going forward. Slowly, somewhat inconsistent and not as we would like - but it is happening. And a lot has changed over the past 10-15 years.

              -------------------------
              We may be moving forward, but in many regions of the USSR it is simply an unattainable ideal for us ...
      5. FiremamRescueS
        FiremamRescueS 30 November 2015 09: 58 New
        +2
        I fully support the author (or authors). Although it was fun to live in the 90s, the chaos was on an unimaginable scale. When we came to St. Petersburg to live I was 16 years old. I remember everything and I found all the horror.
        1. Mari33
          Mari33 30 November 2015 11: 18 New
          +7
          Quote: FiremamRescueS
          Entirely and fully support.


          - Vladimir Vladimirovich, how can one live to retire?
          - What is happening in Syria, have you seen?
          - BUT...
          - And in Kiev, what a mess?
          - But ...
          - The next question.

          After the president’s television communication with the people:
          - So, dear students, the task. Inflation rose over the year by 30%, salaries and pensions have not changed. How much has the standard of living of the population dropped?
          - At 30%.
          - Wrong.
          - At 40%, taking into account the increase in loan rates.
          - Wrong.
          - At 45%, taking into account loans and exchange rates.
          - Wrong. The correct answer is 3% and don't ask me why.

          Let it be known to you, godfather, that Russia's problem is not that it cannot feed the poor, but that the rich will not get drunk.
      6. IS-80
        IS-80 30 November 2015 11: 21 New
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        An article on the topic: "Life has become better, comrades. Life has become more fun."

        Skomorokhov is slowly turning into a mouthpiece for the Kremlin. Ndaaa ..
        1. Altona
          Altona 30 November 2015 17: 24 New
          +6
          Quote: IS-80
          Skomorokhov is slowly turning into a mouthpiece for the Kremlin. Ndaaa ..

          ----------------------
          I disagree with domestic politics, I have disagreed for 10 years ... Such a policy is channeled in 2006-2007, when your income has nowhere to go, GDP growth is 8%, money falls at the snap of your fingers, everyone is friends and bros. And when factories in monotowns die, apartments become cheaper, people look for any job, everywhere there is "optimization", salaries not only do not grow, but also fall, with prices soaring, then what? Russia is different, but in a big city you can still get out, but in a small one it is difficult, you have to go somewhere. And the budgets of cities are getting poorer, there are no working enterprises, there are no budget receipts. And the Government also wants to carry out privatization in state sectors. With assets falling in price, it’s giving away for nothing ... YA DISAGREE. We need to establish elementary order, but we’re all about "raising the retirement age", "funded pension", "overhaul". Where to work? Moreover, in order to pay normally ... The salary of a loader at Pyaterochka has already exceeded the salary of a specialist in a small town. Even workers are no longer needed for production, not like engineers ... Okay, and I won't say anything, anyway a metropolis will not understand a city, but a city is a working-class settlement or a village ...
      7. varov14
        varov14 30 November 2015 12: 59 New
        +3
        It may have become more fun to live in a special zone, but in our land it is somehow past. No, of course my soul just sings when they show me the next Moscow denouement on TV, but blood rushes to my head, I myself am driving through potholes. The shops have everything, no questions asked, but the salaries of ambulance doctors are cut. In 25 years, 5 houses were built, and in the previous 20, and I arrived at 69 - three quarters, you can see the difference in the pace of development. Write an article like this in a couple of years, the fat years are over.
    2. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 30 November 2015 07: 03 New
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      I will not undertake to evaluate the article, but I have long wanted to read something like that. I agree with many things, but there are several fundamental questions without an answer to which, in my opinion, the article, as a whole, does not make sense.
      Where is the whole country being led?
      Why does something that my ancestors built belongs to someone unknown?
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 07: 24 New
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        Quote: vyinemeynen
        Why does something that my ancestors built belongs to someone unknown?

        Why is it not known to whom ?? part of the article is known and listed - Abramovich, Deripaska, Potanin ... etc oligarchic capitalism in full growth plus the state Gazprom, Rosneft Russian Railways, etc. .. minus the initiative of private owners (small and medium) business ...
        1. vyinemeynen
          vyinemeynen 30 November 2015 07: 48 New
          -5
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Why is it not known to whom ?? part of the article is known and listed - Abramovich, Deripaska, Potanin ... etc oligarchic capitalism in full growth plus the state Gazprom, Rosneft Russian Railways, etc. .. minus the initiative of private owners (small and medium) business ...

          If so, answer the question: why does Putin raise pensions for the elderly?
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 07: 53 New
            +6
            Quote: vyinemeynen
            If so, answer the question: why does Putin raise pensions for the elderly?

            Why really? intrigued, open amzh. eyes..
            1. vyinemeynen
              vyinemeynen 30 November 2015 08: 10 New
              -2
              I do not know, but in my opinion this does not fit into oligarchic capitalism.
              1. Max_Bauder
                Max_Bauder 30 November 2015 09: 13 New
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                Quote: vyinemeynen
                I do not know, but in my opinion this does not fit into oligarchic capitalism.


                And it will not fit, you are right.

              2. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 10: 44 New
                +1
                Quote: vyinemeynen
                I do not know, but in my opinion this does not fit into oligarchic capitalism.

                And if you take a broader view of my comment - state-oligarchic capitalism? then maybe it will fit?
                state-oligarchic capitalism ... - TLT.ru
                tlt.ru/articles.php?n=1069922
                The choice of strategy has been made: state-oligarchic capitalism, the Asian model. Struggle for the choice of direction and pace
                1. vyinemeynen
                  vyinemeynen 30 November 2015 13: 21 New
                  0
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  state-oligarchic capitalism

                  It will end in the foreseeable future, together with the states (they have completely discredited this system). Do you think we will build an initially dead system? I would like to believe that this is not so! hi
                  I think so.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 30 November 2015 20: 00 New
                    0
                    Quote: vyinemeynen
                    Do you think we will build an initially dead system?

                    We have been building this way for 25 years and nothing, everything is in order.
              3. vandarus
                vandarus 30 November 2015 11: 26 New
                +6
                And you remember the plans to raise the retirement age and the "reform" of health care and everything will fit.
          2. bastard
            bastard 30 November 2015 10: 49 New
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            Quote: vyinemeynen
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Why is it not known to whom ?? part of the article is known and listed - Abramovich, Deripaska, Potanin ... etc oligarchic capitalism in full growth plus the state Gazprom, Rosneft Russian Railways, etc. .. minus the initiative of private owners (small and medium) business ...

            If so, answer the question: why does Putin raise pensions for the elderly?

            To begin with: the ruble is pegged to the dollar.
            So: when the dollar was 30-32 rubles. my mother's pension with all the allowances (teaching experience from 16 (!) years, a labor veteran, disability, etc.) was 12 thousand, and now it is already 13 thousand rubles. Since my mother 5 years ago completely lost her eyesight, suffered a heart attack (with complications due to diabetes), cannot walk, etc. I had to quit my job (turner), I sit with her, and my brother works. Insulin is free, but it does not always happen, for money - please. All other drugs are only for money. And a bunch of different "amenities" in connection with this, the therapist prescribes more expensive drugs. I was personally present in his office during an agreement with representatives of a pharmaceutical company. The allowance for caring for a sick parent, as I was told, is already a thousand or one and a half rubles! I didn't run around the offices, it's easier to hand over the bottles. Food prices have gone up. Housing and communal services - earlier they fit into 3,5 - 4 thousand, now - 5,5 - 6 thousand. We are still struggling. Added the Sun-like to the old men, respected! Big RAHMAT to him. Yes, and I am already sixty years old, I try not to think about what awaits me.

            Anecdote:
            Putin and Obama are flying in an airplane over Russia, flying over Peter.
            Obama:
            - OU! What a big city there is! How is it called?
            Putin:
            - This is St. Petersburg, I was born here, studied, got married, etc., many of my corefans from here now rule in Moscow with me. . .
            Fly over Moscow:
            - And what is this big city?
            - And this is Moscow, the capital of Russia, from here we with the St. Petersburg sidekicks rule the country and soak in the toilet.
            Fly over (insert necessary, for example: Obersheisingen)
            - And what is this small town?
            Putin, waving his hand:
            - Ah, that’s true, experimental.
            - How is it experimental?
            - Yes, that's all! Turn off the water with light - live! Prices for housing and communal services and products are bullying - live! GMOs and moonshine we poison - live! Sprinkle dust with dust, we’ll see what they will do.
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 11: 02 New
              +2
              Quote: villain
              Sprinkle dust with dust, we’ll see what they will do.

              Well, what can you do with the villains ... laughing
              1. bastard
                bastard 30 November 2015 11: 10 New
                +2
                Quote: afdjhbn67
                Well, what can you do with the villains ...

                Yes, it seems again about stuttering euthanasia, scum!
            2. sergo42
              sergo42 30 November 2015 14: 02 New
              +1
              Remaking a bearded joke about the union! But seriously, yes now the heyday of oligarch officials, and compared with life in the union, is a complete ass. But when compared with the times under Pleshivoy or the Alkash of Russia, now life is a little better.
          3. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 30 November 2015 12: 19 New
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            Quote: vyinemeynen
            If so, answer the question: why does Putin raise pensions for the elderly?

            It is logical! Pensioners are not needed. Therefore, Putin decided that it was not necessary for me, a working pensioner, to pay compensation for inflation, and not for those who were not working — perhaps rubles, 500 rubles, or less to someone. Well, and at the same time raise the retirement age. However, at the same time in the State Duma, the "salary" was raised by 29%. There, of course you need it! A minute before the vote on the budget there was no quorum, and then as many as 450 "turned out." Have you read Gogol's Dead Souls?
            Quote: meriem1
            What did you forget about the miners at the white house, who were not paid salaries for 8 months ???

            What do you think, will truckers now give "knocking helmets at the White House" to truckers now? Do you think they are enemies of Russia? Arrests have already begun.
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 12: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Was mammoth

              "Who said that mammoths are extinct? They just shrunk until better times" A. Konstantinov ... laughing
            2. vyinemeynen
              vyinemeynen 30 November 2015 14: 06 New
              +1
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Therefore, Putin decided that I, the working pensioner, do not need to pay compensation for inflation, and not the working ones,

              And who canceled the "government decree (I don't remember what it was called)" when it was not Putin who did not pay pensions to working pensioners?
              Unless I wrote where we have communism and universal happiness and JUSTICE.
              left the topic
            3. Gardamir
              Gardamir 30 November 2015 18: 26 New
              +2
              What do you think, will truckers now give "knocking helmets at the White House" to truckers now?
              Constitution of the Russian Federation Chapter3 Article 74

              1. The establishment of customs borders, duties, fees, and any other obstacles to the free movement of goods, services, and financial assets is not allowed on the territory of the Russian Federation.

              2. Restrictions on the movement of goods and services may be imposed in accordance with federal law, if it is necessary to ensure the safety, protect the lives and health of people, protect nature and cultural values.
              So who is violating our constitution? It turns out not truckers
          4. Alf
            Alf 30 November 2015 19: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: vyinemeynen
            If so, answer the question: why does Putin raise pensions for the elderly?

            Don’t worry so much for retirees. In 2016, the indexation of pensions will be 5% with OFFICIAL inflation of 12%, although the real one is even higher.
            It must be considered not how much the pension has increased, but how much the prices have risen. In the 90s we all received millions, but for some reason we were not rich.
      2. shibi
        shibi 30 November 2015 07: 30 New
        0
        1. Where are the whole country leading?
        2. Why does what my ancestors built belong to nobody knows?
        1. So the country is being taken out of the swamp
        2. Ask the "friends" of Boris Piyanoy and the grant eaters of gamers.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 30 November 2015 09: 24 New
          +7
          .Ask the "friends" of Boris Piany
          Are you alluding to the current president?
      3. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 30 November 2015 08: 29 New
        -3
        Why does what my ancestors built belong to nobody knows? Yes, because what was built by the people did not belong, belonged to the party nomenclature. Look who robbed Russia in 90 years, former party workers,
        because all of them at one time were members of the party who led the Komsomol.
        On the issue of allocating funds for the army, I have not said, do not want to feed your army, you will feed someone else's. A normal article to the author +.
    3. SANAY
      SANAY 30 November 2015 08: 15 New
      0
      I remember watching videos in the 90s, where in winter a husband and wife drive up in an SUV to a glowing gas station! then they go to the supermarket, right at the gas station! pick up two huge paper bags of incredible foods, including greens! are calculated by bank transfer! Even then we thought: this is how the bourgeois live, and whoever answered, it’s America, what do you want! And suddenly 20 years pass and everything is the same with us !!!!!!! Previously, there were shashliks made from boxes on the track, but now motels, suburban restaurants like "Far from Wives" and other "Hunters" and "Sovushki", with beautiful terraces, playgrounds, fountains and playgrounds. My children and I love to go to such forest cafes. This just did not happen 15 years ago !!!!! So, I agree with the author of the article.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 30 November 2015 10: 03 New
        +9
        watched vidic in the 90s
        that the homeless, drug addicts, abandoned old people are not shown?
      2. MrK
        MrK 30 November 2015 11: 37 New
        +8
        As the president of Russia behaves in our very difficult time, for some reason, we are satisfied with our part of the people. Apparently, because we can not only look, but also see. Not only listen, but also hear. Write in the Comments.

        Really. In Russia, you can see the perfect picture. It contains those who grabbed during the privatization. Or attached to the bread position.
        But people who live successfully do not see: 22 million living below the poverty line, 5 million homeless people, 3 million prostitutes, etc.

        Really. Putin has done a lot. The people both died out in a million a year with the… EBN boot (loss of 6 million), and continued to die out until 2014 of the year (loss of 5 million)

        Indeed, Putin removed the oligarchs (Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Gusinsky ...), but he immediately created others. From the native cooperative Lake.

        Really. In the USSR, all imports were purchased (products, shoes, clothing, the latest technology ...) for 12-16 billion dollars. (TOTAL). Today we are buying ONLY FOOD on 39-43 billion dollars. And cackle about import substitution

        Really. Putin has done a lot for the development of Russia. I got on the Internet a small sign "DEPENDENCE OF THE MAJOR INDUSTRIES OF RUSSIA ON THE INDUSTRIAL IMPORT IN THE 2014 YEAR". It contains such data by industry:
        Machine tool industry - 90%.
        Heavy Engineering - 70%.
        Oil and gas equipment - 60%.
        Power equipment - 50%.
        Civil aircraft industry - 80%.
        Agricultural engineering - from 50 to 90%.
        Really. He speaks a lot. And he says the right words. Only the Russian government does everything differently.

        Doesn’t he know who he is appointing? Well, look, at least a year later, how your appointees work. And then you again: king, you see, good. Landowners are bad.

        Speak pensions to people boosts. I have seen enough tears of pensioners in the Pension Fund. My pension was raised by 117 rubles. “300 gr of doctor's sausage,” said the old man with tears in his eyes.

        Really. Housing is being built. But in 2014, Russia built 78% of the housing commissioned in the RSFSR. And for it you have to pay the mortgage for the rest of your life. And if you lose your job, then the scribe. They will take away housing.

        When you already see the essence. IT'S JUST FUCKING THE CURRENT THIES. And the external, ostentatious concern for the people is nothing more than a screen, so that he - the people would not throw off these bloodsuckers.

        As for the negative reason, for us the whole life in the country of Russia for the majority of the people - there is one negative reason - how to survive.

        In the village to the herd of sheep put one goat. And the sheep calmly follow the goat, thinking that he will lead them to the best pasture. And HE is just looking for a more satisfying weed. MYSELF. I want to ask: DO NOT REMEMBER ANYTHING?

        Last thing. The crisis is just beginning. Further it will be worse. To the majority of the population. Patriots, damn it.

        Read, patriots, the book of the real patriot Alexander Kurlyandchik "Damned Soviet Power" ... on Prose. RU.
        I look forward to many, many cons. respectfully
        1. bastard
          bastard 30 November 2015 11: 53 New
          +5
          Quote: mrark
          Really. He speaks a lot. And he says the right words. Only the Russian government does everything differently.

          Doesn’t he know who he is appointing? Well, look, at least a year later, how your appointees work. And then you are again: the king, you see, good. Landowners are bad.

          BRAVO! I fully support. I will answer to your post fable I. Krylova:

          Peasants and the river

          Peasants Out of Patience
          From ruin
          What rivers and streams
          At the aquifer caused
          We went to ask for a council from the River,
          In which streams and rivers flowed.
          And there was something to convey to them!
          Where the winter is torn;
          Where the mills are torn and washed away;
          Cattle sunk, which can not be counted!
          And that River flows so quietly, albeit magnificently;
          Big cities stand on it,
          And never
          Behind her such leprosy is not heard:
          So, right, she’ll take them away,
          Peasants reasoned among themselves.
          But then what? how to approach the river closer to steel
          And looked so learned
          That half of their good carries her.
          Here, in vain without starting up trouble,
          The peasants only carried out his eyes;
          Then they looked among themselves
          And shaking my head
          Let's go home.
          And leaving, they said:
          "What time to spend for us!
          On the younger you won’t find yourself there,
          Where they are divided in half with the elder. "
    4. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 30 November 2015 09: 09 New
      +2
      Putin’s most important merit is sovereignty. Without it, Russia would have been with the territory of the Moscow region.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 30 November 2015 09: 30 New
        +1
        Without it, Russia would have been with the territory of the Moscow region.
        Will be. The present government justifies the gift of Norway, the land to China, and now also the lease.
      2. bastard
        bastard 30 November 2015 13: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        Putin’s most important merit is sovereignty.

        Faq ?! belay Who told you that, Kiselev? Kiselyov said well, loudly, as he plunged into a well.
        A sovereign country not only has its own flag-anthem-coat of arms, but also mints its own coin. does not live according to the Constitution, written in a hurry on the knee and hastily translated from English. Do not hesitate, pursuing an independent policy, thinking "what the partners will say." Does not implement "recommended" by the West systems of education, health care, social services. security and other juvenile gays. A sovereign country SAMA rebuilds its industry, economy, financial system, science, and does not wait for investments from abroad and technological handouts from the West.
        I’ll finish, perhaps, but I’ll disperse now.
        1. Max_Bauder
          Max_Bauder 30 November 2015 15: 24 New
          -3
          Quote: villain
          I’ll finish, perhaps, but I’ll disperse now.


          You just have a tantrum, face it, and once again review the video about Putin, YouTube is teeming with what he did while he was in power:
          1. Did you end the war in Chechnya? The answer is yes. It does not matter what, the Kadyrovs were at first in the camp of enemies, the main thing was that they thought better of it, remembered their people, now the border is much protected there, and young Russian boys don't die there every day.
          2. Has your salary increased? have you already traveled to Turkey? probably also an affirmative answer. Under EBN, you wouldn’t even save up for communal services, because prices would be as they are now in Ukraine, however, as well as your salary.
          3. Do you remember about Yukos? Who didn’t let Khodorka sell the controlling interest to the Americans so that they wouldn’t ruffle the company? Do you know that everything that the Americans did not buy, all state enterprises, they destroyed everything? just to ruin the country, as the mishandled Cossack from Microsoft acted, who moved to Nokia and back, like a Trojan horse.
          4. Well, this argument follows from the above, from what date and when did the state budget start to receive funds from oil and gas sales, and before that, zero cent, from which people began to receive social and pension contributions?
          I, too, could write for a long time, but there is no reason; if I seek, I find. You in vain slander the president. He pulled the country out of shit, better than Minin and Pozharsky.
          And, I almost forgot, the latest and most powerful argument. In the world, the whole story was important who is stronger and wealthier. The army defines this. Now the army and navy certainly do not reach the ideal, but work is ongoing. Without it, one cannot speak of any sovereignty. Do not believe? ask the countries of Europe, or those who were bombed by NATO.
          1. bastard
            bastard 30 November 2015 17: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: Max_Bauder
            You just have a tantrum, face it, and once again review the video about Putin, YouTube is teeming with what he did while he was in power:

            I have no inclination to hysterics. The truth is simple: the West was very stressed that the USSR collapsed faster than they planned. In a country stuffed with various weapons, including nuclear ones, an uncontrolled and uncontrollable mess with unpredictable consequences could arise. This frightened the "partners" very much, because they counted on a controlled, smooth and gradual dismantling of the Soviet system. When drastic changes occur in a short period of time, people notice a significant difference between what was and what has become. In these conditions, there is a very high probability of the emergence of a real national leader around whom the people or an active majority of it can rally. Let us recall the 1917th and the Stalinist period, in short. This "partners" could not allow, therefore, they brought their nominee to power through the oligarchs controlled by them, allowing him to stabilize the situation in the country so that the destruction was not explosive, but neatly dismantle what was left of the USSR. Generation after generation. If the frog is thrown into boiling water, it will jump out immediately, and if heated smoothly, it will cook. It takes a long time to write, it will not be possible to keep within the framework of one commentary, but if the most respectable public wishes, I can briefly outline the deeds of our benefactors, give links to videos and texts. Only one video for several tens of hours of viewing, not corrupt journalists broadcast, but eminent scientists and even officials, some are no longer alive. And then you will bring the data together and you will be fine. I already suggested, one only responded. I sent him several files, I never saw them again.
            Quote: Max_Bauder
            Has your salary increased? have you already traveled to Turkey? probably also an affirmative answer.

            I'm out of work right now, read my first comment on this thread. I was abroad once in Poland; I returned exactly in the morning on the day of Pavlovsk reform. Remember?
            1. bastard
              bastard 30 November 2015 17: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: Max_Bauder
              Remember about Yukos? Who didn’t let Khodorka sell the controlling interest to the Americans so that they wouldn’t ruffle the company?

              I remember Yukos. I remember how Birch and Goose fought. I remember a lot. A spectacular electorate event with nominated victims and heroes. Performance. Nothing has changed since ancient times. The rulers of ancient Greece and Rome drove the population into cyclopean theaters for thousands of spectators for free performances that ran from morning to evening for fifty days a year. Allegedly disinterested concern for the population and service to the gods. The plot was structured in such a way that the consumer of "free cheese" guessed the denouement, and after the curtain there followed a logical generalization about the principles of life. The meaning of religious ceremonies is the same - the processing of consciousness to the point of complete inability of the okhlos to make correct judgments.
              The trained adept ceased to be guided not only in social, political and economic affairs, but even in family relationships - and, as a result, constantly found himself in a situation "I wanted the best, but it turned out as always." The same fate awaited his descendants. And the descendants of their descendants ... The theaters collapsed long ago, and the audience is still sitting on the stone steps.
              They began to spread rot on them, and the new oligarchy that was born joined in, everyone wanted meat. Long story. Climb into the web, poke around a little - you will find it yourself. Specify the search algorithm without "Urya! Putin is our everything" and it will be for you.
              Quote: Max_Bauder
              .Now the army and navy certainly do not reach the ideal, but work is ongoing.

              The ideal is very far. The fact that the work is ongoing is pleasing and encouraging. hi
    5. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 30 November 2015 09: 28 New
      -2
      Quote: venaya
      It just doesn't work out.

      It will turn out if you strive for this. And Putin is striving for this! And we need all of us to help him in this, without regard to the liberals, they are not allies here, they were not posed by Putin, and they were before him!
      And therefore, for starters, it’s enough to water our Head of Our State-Mother Russia with bad words!
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 30 November 2015 10: 08 New
        +7
        And we need all of us to help him in this, without regard to the liberals, they are not allies here, they were not posed by Putin, and they were before him!
        how old are you baby? All those who are sitting in the Kremlin have been dragged by Putin, moreover, he himself does not hide in the least, but is proud that he is a liberal. It was he who gave money for the construction of the Yeltsin Museum, thereby showing that he is a faithful successor to the Yeltsin cause. It's just that Yeltsin was breaking the Soviet Union, and Putin is building a "new liberal Russia", by the way.
    6. spiriolla-45
      spiriolla-45 30 November 2015 11: 53 New
      -3
      Everyone sees and appreciates the world from their bell tower. For you, any action, any effort is justified if it leads to profit. Well, this is your vision, but not everyone thinks that way, nor everyone feels that way. It’s foolish to measure all by yourself. There are worse, but there are many better than you people who are not fixated only on their womb.
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  3. xavbek7
    xavbek7 30 November 2015 05: 51 New
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    And I still remember how my mother, a history teacher, didn’t receive a salary for half a year. And I ate one bread (grandmother baked) and pasta. And now, the center of a dead drunk in Yekaterinburg is being opened, for pin.do.sovskie money, and they are trying to tell me and my children how wonderful a half-drunk, elderly ub.lyu.dok who stood at the head of my country in the 90s was. Guys scolding Putin-turn on the instinct of self-preservation. If only because we (those who are for Putin) are much more. And our patience is not unlimited.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 06: 07 New
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      Quote: xavbek7
      And now, the center of a dead drunk in Yekaterinburg is opening, for pin. Do.sovskie money and trying to me, and my children

      The center was built on budget (ours) money in the amount of 7 billion rubles ....
      It turns out that we ourselves paid for the memory of the man who carefully destroyed us - in all possible ways ... am
      1. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 30 November 2015 08: 39 New
        +1
        And in my opinion, maybe I'm wrong, the center was built by Yeltsin’s daughter for money
        stolen from the people during the reign of her dad drunk. Think about what amounts were impudently withdrawn to depreciate people's deposits and withdrawn to foreign banks at interest.
    2. My address
      My address 30 November 2015 06: 31 New
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      Dear ......? hi I consider it necessary to denote my name.

      Here I am quite elderly (what counts from 60 to 75), a former production worker. For many reasons, the nineties lived relatively well.
      But.
      For more than thirty years I know that there are three basic types of activity (with which the Motherland begins):
      Education and training, starting with a nanny in kindergarten.
      Health protection, starting with the nurse in the clinic.
      Guards, starting with the private in the army and the police (he invented this jerk to remake the police into the police).
      The first layer of the superstructure is builders, agriculture, and light industry.
      My industry is a little offensive, but the fact is, this is the second layer of the superstructure.
      In Soviet times, teachers didn’t pay much, but there were some benefits, and even with EBN ...

      Being determines consciousness. Now, if Putin (whose supporter you are) and Medvedev have children go to regular schools, and spouses and adult daughters work in ordinary clinics, then talents will rush into teachers and doctors. A country in five years will be a model and attractive center.

      And immodest questions - Who opened the Yeltsin Center and how many decent people were at the opening?
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 06: 45 New
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        Quote: My address
        And immodest questions - Who opened the Yeltsin Center and how many decent people were at the opening?

        Significantly, the broadcast on NTV looked like Chubais was spreading his thoughts along the tree - about those "glorious" times ...
        With regards to the personalities at the opening of the center then ..without comments - pah and again pah ..
      2. maks-101
        maks-101 30 November 2015 07: 09 New
        +2
        I remember not only the devastation, but I remember the Chechen war, the wicket, dubbing, and much that these liberals drunk their corrupt homeland, and now imagine how many Stalin cleaned the country after the war. We have been since 1988. there was a war like the domestic one, and maybe worse, because we had a Nazi enemy there, and here the betrayal of the Yeltsen gang should not have existed as a state for about five years, but we are there and it bites us and they are afraid of us thanks to the GDP.
      3. w3554152
        w3554152 30 November 2015 09: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: My address
        There are three basic activities (with which the Homeland begins):


        You are absolutely right. The state has three direct duties to its citizens: to teach, treat and protect.
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 10: 26 New
          +5
          Quote: w3554152
          You are absolutely right. The state has three direct duties to its citizens: to teach, treat and protect.

          Well, yes, dear colleague, it (the state) fulfills these duties by reforming the healthcare, education, Ministry of Internal Affairs and Armed Forces. So there seems to be no reason to blame the state for the lack of attention to the people. True, the results of these reforms, in my understanding of a military pensioner, cause some bewilderment. Perhaps, in addition to the reform of the army, I agree here that real work is underway to eliminate the consequences of the work of the stool with the girls and the real systematic improvement. But everything else, with all due respect to GDP, is somewhat disappointing. And I write this very softly, I don’t want to break into negative, now I’ll go in line to the free dentist, for the second week in a row and in the evening I will describe the health care reform in more detail. laughing
          1. MrK
            MrK 30 November 2015 12: 18 New
            +7
            Quote: Vladimir 1964
            But everything else, with all due respect to GDP, is somewhat disappointing. And I write this very softly, I don’t want to break into negative, now I’ll go in line to the free dentist, for the second week in a row and in the evening I will describe more detailed health care reform.


            I will answer with a quote from A.Kurlyandchik recommended by me. And by the 2014 year in the Russian Federation, 21 000 schools and 18 000 hospitals were closed. But for that built 23 000 temples.
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 13: 10 New
              +1
              Quote: mrark
              I will answer with a quote from A.Kurlyandchik recommended by me. And by 2014, 21 schools and 000 hospitals were closed in the Russian Federation. But for that 18 temples were built.


              I don’t know about churches, my colleague, but hospitals and schools are not closed, as you deigned. They are OPTIMIZED! Let's be objective, colleague. laughing
              1. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 21: 42 New
                +1
                Quote: Vladimir 1964
                I don’t know about churches, my colleague, but hospitals and schools are not closed, as you deigned. They are OPTIMIZED! Let's be objective, colleague.

                I am very interested in the opinion of a colleague who put a minus. It's not about the minus, they don't interest me, the opinion that contradicts mine is interesting. I have not been and will not be "the ultimate truth", so really, colleague, there is a desire to communicate, I will be sincerely glad. soldier
      4. vladimir_krm
        vladimir_krm 30 November 2015 09: 46 New
        0
        "Now, if Putin (whom you are a supporter of) and Medvedev have children in ordinary schools, and spouses and grown-up daughters work in ordinary clinics, then talents will rush into teachers and doctors."

        Dear colleague by age and occupation! :) So I do not know where the children of Putin and Medvedev study, there is no information about this, except for gossip in the yellow press. But. If the leaders have children in regular schools, it will be easy for the secret services to steal them and then blackmail these leaders. You can, of course, remember Stalin with his “I don’t change soldiers for generals,” because they are not from a good life. I do not think that if you were the president of a country that the strongest and most vile empire dreams of destroying, you would want to risk your children just for the sake of principle. Children are not to blame, are they?

        Threat. For some reason, it seems to me that Putin’s sensational divorce is for the same reason: to protect relatives ...
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 30 November 2015 10: 22 New
          +4
          Threat. For some reason, it seems to me that Putin’s sensational divorce is for the same reason: to protect relatives ..
          How so, he is a genius in foreign policy? One appointment Serdyukov to the post of Minister of Defense, we deceived all the enemies and suddenly everything is so simple?
          Enemies have always been, but never a single power has not gained its price at the expense of enemies. Putin is doing great for his supporters, not because he lives for the people, but because he fights against enemies, sanctions and counter-sanctions day and night for 25 hours.
          1. vladimir_krm
            vladimir_krm 30 November 2015 17: 33 New
            -3
            And he fights with enemies exclusively for himself, and not for the people? Do not you think that if he had not been the president (or had he been such a president as Gorbachev), would he have no enemies?
            1. vladimir_krm
              vladimir_krm 1 December 2015 10: 32 New
              0
              How minusers are like Ukrainians gathered on the Maidan :) Repeat our mistakes if you can’t learn about strangers :)
    3. EngineerP
      EngineerP 30 November 2015 06: 50 New
      +1
      In the 90s, factories stood, father also didn’t pay a salary for six months, I don’t even know how they lived, mother used to bake there in the morning while my brother and I were sleeping, and they ate with my father in turn, only so that my brother and I would at least they ate, so I can only say THANKS to Putin !!! And those who scold Putin, either do not remember anything, or at that time they lived well, and now they have torn them from the feeder, and they have taken offense for this !!!
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 30 November 2015 08: 00 New
        -1
        What the president of the Russian Federation V.V. has done and is doing now Putin for the country as a whole - I support. Another thing is that maybe this is not enough, but who will do better - respond! Everyone can chat, but when it comes to business, there is no one. A lot of Yeltsin with the team, (except that they destroyed the USSR) did. Keep quiet Here it is! In vain, the newly-built center in Yekaterinburg was given his name, people will mostly not care.
        1. MrK
          MrK 30 November 2015 12: 23 New
          +6
          Quote: Dembel 77
          Everyone can chat, but when it comes to business, there is no one.


          Bro. There are 142 million of us in Russia. Do you really think that the light wedged only on Putin.
          Yes, be you seven spans in the forehead, They will not let you go beyond Red Square. BUT If you insist strongly, it will turn out like with a famous general: your wife will "shoot" at night from your own personal weapon during intercourse.
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    6. MrK
      MrK 30 November 2015 12: 13 New
      +7
      Quote: xavbek7
      And I still remember how my mother, a history teacher, didn’t receive a salary for half a year. And I ate one bread (grandmother baked) and pasta.


      Why don’t you ask your mother: how did the teachers live in 1978?
      What does the history of Russia begin with EBN?
      After all, now some students are talking about teachers: You are nobody, and there’s no way to call you. Because you do not have two or three stalls on the market, like my dad, a former gangster.
  4. Koshak
    Koshak 30 November 2015 05: 52 New
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    Rearmament is a must, who would argue. But is it necessary at the same time "in the Stone Age" to make social sphere - medicine, education, social protection? stop
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 30 November 2015 06: 20 New
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      Quote: Koshak
      Rearmament is a must, who would argue. But is it necessary at the same time "in the Stone Age" to make social sphere - medicine, education, social protection? stop


      This is what the Authors are talking about !!! Reminding about those who whine! And they whine exactly those who plundered the country, and now they are liberals and the People "fell in love" with unearthly love and destroy with their poisonous speeches the brain of young people in the Higher School of Economics, for example !!! Having ruined everything and got rid of it. In the 90s, for example, there was no longer a smell of social media. What have you forgotten about the miners at the White House, who were not paid for 8 months ??? Or about pensions, what are the tears that did not pay? About 20% inflation in M ​​E S Y C!
      Thanks to the Authors for the TRUTH !!! Everything that is written is true! Putin is collecting reserves. That's just like kaklov some have a different brain. So they run around Bolotnaya Square with white ribbons, moaning from a lack of hammons and oysters .... Instead of raising their homeland!
      1. Hardy
        Hardy 30 November 2015 08: 43 New
        +9
        Quote: meriem1

        Thanks to the Authors for the TRUTH !!! Everything that is written is true! Putin is collecting reserves.

        Yeah and sends them west lol
        Last year, we earned and shipped zapad 153 billion bucks.
        In this, the truth will be less, but still over 100 passes.

        So one asks, maybe it was just profitable, to raise the economy a little in the two thousandth? Stupidly rob then after the 90s there was already nothing)))))
        And now they are optimizing the country, removing non-core business and expenses ...

        You understand, even the restoration of our army, while maintaining economic subordination to the West, is beneficial to the real masters of the world - transnational business.

        For that matter, even Hitler did not disperse the collective farms in the occupied territories, but used them for their intended purpose. And probably not as tough as Stalin)))

        The whole difference with the 90s is that they sold us for cheap then. Because the task of the West was to capture, subjugate the country. And now, when they are our full masters, the attitude has changed, they are selling our work more expensively.
        And if anyone thinks that we are an independent state, then let me explain why there are no ATMs of Sberbank of Russia in Crimea and there are no branches of it?))) Why are the laws of Russia there not working in full?)))
        Why does the Russian Federation itself live according to the laws written for us by the West? And even after an open NATO attack, it is justified that we say, according to all WTO rules, we refuse Turkish tomatoes))))) That is, we cannot even refuse rotten tomatoes without permission))))))) About the military response and conversation no ... It is not clear only why then do we need the army, after other "crap" to clean up?
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    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 30 November 2015 07: 58 New
      +6
      Quote: Koshak
      But is it necessary at the same time "in the Stone Age" to make social sphere - medicine, education, social protection?

      The most painful place for the people and the most vulnerable for the government. If the people will remember this, then the government will still be hindered by this destruction not conquered by them. And this is being destroyed at that time when the experience of the USSR in this sphere is being adopted by Western countries, pay attention to the capitalist ones. And again, it all comes down to the fact that we do not have an ideological platform.
  5. My address
    My address 30 November 2015 05: 52 New
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    Put an article plus. Good article, but one-sided. And I respect Skomorokhova, respect for business. But I think that:

    About the times of Yeltsin, one can say - "There were worse times, but there were no mean ones."

    And about Putin - He introduces modern feudalism. Not even capitalism, where specialists or people with some experience are needed. For Putin, the main thing is loyalty to the leader. And his feudalism is not viable. "He puts the devotees in their places, but smart and honest ones are needed." And about the economy, which is falling, but can allocate funds for the army, I hope to write a note from the point of view of a factory engineer. At some level of production, more funds are released than are consumed.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 November 2015 05: 55 New
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      Quote: My address
      He introduces modern feudalism. Not even capitalism, where specialists or people with some experience are needed. Where the main thing is loyalty to the leader. And feudalism is not viable. "He puts the devotees in their places, but smart and honest ones are needed."

      Feudalism may not be entirely, but the appointment of incompetent people in state bodies has become a direct scourge. No.
      1. emercom1979
        emercom1979 30 November 2015 06: 13 New
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        Unfortunately, there are few competent people, and there are many vertebrates. Everyone goes for an acquaintance, for money and for money. It can be corrected through lawsuits and statements to the prosecutor's office. But the people are afraid. The principle "First they seek the truth, and then a new place of work" sits in everyone's minds. And no one wants to change anything. There are no mass claims and statements, and no changes. To change a manager you need a foundation.
      2. SPACE
        SPACE 30 November 2015 08: 00 New
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        Quote: My address
        And about Putin - He introduces modern feudalism. Not even capitalism, where specialists or people with some experience are needed. For Putin, the main thing is loyalty to the leader. And his feudalism is not viable. "He puts the devotees in their places, but smart and honest ones are needed."

        One can directly control and control a dozen or hundreds of people, but what about millions, but for this we already need a system where each link should fulfill its function and where loyalty will always be a key element that is valued at all times. They will not be taught to be devotees at universities, they, as a natural diamond, create difficulties in life, a rare species, but extremely necessary to create the stability of any system, which is even more important for such a large state as Russia, which has a bunch of external and internal enemies. Yes, you can probably buy fidelity for money, as the West does, surrogate loyalty for money, as long as they are. And it’s much easier to find and build egghead clever people, the system itself compensates for the influence of fools.
        Politics, the art of the possible, Putin does not dream of ideals, he is sober and uses any available and real opportunities, although unusual, he is not devoid of normal human quality, and sometimes his contradictory actions can be understood only through the prism of his main goal. The state will always be more important than individuals, because people without a state are like a knight without armor and it doesn’t matter if they are red or white; in any case, no one will hold out for a long time, which is what world capitalism is possibly seeking.
    2. oleggun
      oleggun 30 November 2015 06: 19 New
      +5
      And who is "smart" and "honest"? Share your last names.
      1. My address
        My address 30 November 2015 06: 57 New
        +5
        Oleg!

        See my publications. I came across sociologists and was surprised that by testing one can even determine from a person who is prepared for testing whether he is lying about his qualities in this work. Simply put, good testing works almost like a polygraph, even more extensively. And further. He asked sociologists whether the directors of the areas pass the tests, it turns out they do not. And rightly so, what if everyone learns that the chief engineer is not even an engineer in essence and is dishonest as a person.

        From 140 millions you can probably pick someone up.
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 30 November 2015 07: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: My address
          Oleg!

          Check out my posts. I came across sociologists and was surprised that testing can determine even a person prepared for testing whether he is lying, how much he is suitable for this work in terms of quality. Simply put, good testing works almost like a polygraph,

          ...Testing?
          And also an old man! Yes, in your years, yes with experience ... "collisions" with sociologists! ... and trust testing ???
          A modest recommendation: read the author of the popular books of the Eureka series (psychiatrist-medical doctor) VL, who was popular in the years of your mature youth. Levy, well - and his attitude to tests and testing ... and to polygraphs at the same time!
          1. My address
            My address 30 November 2015 09: 16 New
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            About sociologists hi .

            Twenty years ago, conducted testing at the plant among the beginning. workshops and departments. Well, spent and spent. After some time, the beginning. soc. the bureau came up with a proposal to test the shift in the workshop where he worked. For God's sake! A couple of days after testing came gratefully. She said that all of her football and only we were normal. And it brought results, so it turned out that she correctly identified gibberish and offered interesting things to improve attitudes towards people.

            And we also got into conversation with her and she told about testing the heads of departments. One early. the shop was dumbfounded. She said that according to the tests, he was a decent person, without silversmiths, but his maximum in leadership is 10 people. And she was absolutely right! Everyone at the plant knew that. She told who tried to deceive. And she also complained that the level of directors in directions is not tested and they do not pay attention to the recommendations of sociologists. And you say that according to some of the books "Sociology is a venal deff for the oldikoff."

            I inform you that in any production, everything is done, starting with the cleaning lady. Just who does well and who does bad. And the division into major and subsidiary of foolishness. I say this as a so-called. main. Because I had a great relationship fellow with mechanics, electricians, power engineers, crane operators, office workers.

            These are the pies. And now you have a minus for not knowing the practice.
    3. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 06: 20 New
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      Quote: My address
      And about Putin - He introduces modern feudalism

      I agree with you, the system tied to one not even ordinary person is not stable and unviable in principle .. there are no examples from A.F. Makedonsky laughing to a closer example to us of I.V. Stalin ..
      Putin is definitely the brain and leader of the entire "movement" in the country, but it is scary what kind of "perestroika" and "reforms" those who follow him can "please" us .. and there is no need to reassure yourself that everything is thought out, etc. events are usually chaotic and avalanche-like.
  6. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 05: 53 New
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    and you don’t remember what kind
    ugh ...! Roman, the impression of the phrase that the dude recently "leaned back" ... you shouldn't "bazaar" on a hairdryer ... hi Every day I drive a car along the Artyom - Vladivostok road and see how enterprises are being built, some shops, logistics centers, private and multi-storey houses (quote) - it sounds great about enterprises, but this is in the Far East, drive through the Urals, you will be horrified. .. chain stores, yes, how mushrooms grow, and enterprises ... alas, it is extremely rare, the foundations from them in the "stronghold of the state - the landscape is familiar. but private houses, that's right, apartments are now out of order, here are the people and they scramble out as best they can, but this is acceptable for those who have successfully settled in, and the bulk, especially young people, rent for a lot of money, denying themselves the rest. "" And the fields that were overgrown with weeds ten years ago, and the equipment that works in these fields. And agricultural enterprises, which really grow like mushrooms. "" - this is also not about the Urals ... we have been taking mushrooms in place of the fields, for a long time already. "" Many are calling to stop investing in the army. "" - only stupid or liberals. "" How the President of Russia behaves in our That time - our part of the people for some reason suits. "" - so far it is the only correct way ... otherwise, it's a kapets country, but in the localities - "the king is far away, God is high", the princelings rule, put them in prison, but not enough ... it's hard to live, yes, but when was it easy in Russia? all the time someone is reaching out to her ...
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 30 November 2015 06: 42 New
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      drive through the Urals, you will be horrified ... chain stores, yes, like mushrooms grow, and enterprises ... alas, it is extremely rare, the foundations from them in the "supporting edge of the state, the landscape is familiar.

      You would have looked into Buryatia, the scribe is complete, in my memory, you just built a pig farm, but it seemed like the noise above the roof flew to the moon, by the way there is a strong fluid, a mess and a stench for tens of kilometers.
      We can say so, the production of the new ZERO, Agricultural ZERO, but the forest is stolen on a large scale, soon the Mongolian steppes will be. Mess, corruption, theft and kickbacks, as if we do not live in Russia, and laws are not for us.
      PS
      I don’t see alternatives to Putin he would have to pinch these ghouls on the ground, their appetites are not for children. They steal without ceasing.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 06: 56 New
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        Quote: Sirocco
        but the forest is stolen on a large scale, soon the Mongolian steppes will be

        it is everywhere, where something is just growing ... probably after gas and oil, the third "national heritage" ...
      2. avva2012
        avva2012 30 November 2015 07: 19 New
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        I often drop in to Buryatia. Roads are better than in the Irkutsk region. Agriculture on top, herds, crops, no dirt. The villages have clean, well-kept houses. Near them, SUVs. Compared even to the USSR (not to mention the 90's), there are no people drunk on the streets in the village, at least during the day. In the news, it is often said that in Ulan-Ude, helicopters are launched. In my personal opinion, they live better in Buryatia than in neighboring regions.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 30 November 2015 07: 46 New
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          Quote: avva2012
          I often drop in to Buryatia. Roads are better than in the Irkutsk region.

          We apparently call on different roads to Buryatia, you are probably from Transbaikalia))) If you go to Irkutsk, then there are not a couple of ours. Where did you see the herds? Cleanliness and Crops))))) do not tell my horseshoes. Within a radius of 200 km from Ulan Ude, where I hunt, there is no such thing that you describe, what is from cattle of cattle is up to a hundred heads, this is the limit, and then the local residents. The only settlement that fits your description is similar to Khorinsk.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 30 November 2015 07: 58 New
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            Tunka Valley, for example. Bayandai, Elantsy, that there are bad villages, as well as those villages that go along the road? Of course, I can’t say for the whole republic. But, in comparison with the beginning of 2000's, it is quite striking.
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 30 November 2015 08: 07 New
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              Quote: avva2012
              But, in comparison with the beginning of the 2000s, it is quite striking.

              You compared, the end of the 90s and 00. There is a difference and is visible. But to me as a local resident, you don’t blame me for all the little things and garbage that the mistress hides under the rug.
              Much depends on the heads of administrations. Which head, such a village or district.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 30 November 2015 08: 21 New
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                I agree. But, you, as a local resident and "cards in hand", vote in the elections for whoever you want. And then we have trouble, the thinking people, just refuses to go to the polls. I remember, quite recently, they said, "why go, they will choose Eroshchenko anyway." I personally voted for the Communists, because, I think, it is necessary for the authorities to periodically remind that there are people. So, everything is in your hands, dear fellow countryman!
              2. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 11: 15 New
                +1
                Quote: Sirocco
                You compared, the end of the 90s and 00. There is a difference and is visible.

                The comrade confuses Ust-Orda of the Irkutsk region and Buryatia itself .. As for Tunka, the road is good, but the fear of the village is .. at night you go and are afraid that you wouldn’t bring down a cow, the mess is complete ..
                1. avva2012
                  avva2012 30 November 2015 11: 48 New
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                  you go at night and are afraid that you wouldn’t bring down a cow, the mess is complete ..

                  So, then, this is a village. Cows go everywhere without reflectors.
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      4. Egen
        Egen 30 November 2015 09: 27 New
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        article somehow ... a little unclear what. What did VV P take the country out of? This is a no brainer. But the question is - where, why, what is happening with our consciousness, education, ideology, etc.? In this, I agree with the guys above, we have some kind of crap going on ...
        Today's drop is a meeting of a journalist with VV P. Link our city http://o-gorod.net/news/352237/
        We know this rogue well. He specializes in making all kinds of filth out of simple ordinary facts, knows how to present as a crime where there is no crime. At the same time, not proposing any correction solutions in principle.
        Examples. Buying Camry for 1,5 million. Crime, impossible, too much! But 1,5 million is a real price and it's cheap. Purchase of a Cruiser by gas specialists. Expensive, no analogues indicated! But try in the taiga to drive on something else? After six months, Bobik is falling apart, the Cruiser is economically more profitable. And what kind of Cruiser can be an analogue? Here I’ll say as a motorist that there are no analogues to the Cruiser’s drive). Snow in the yard is not removed! Drive out the head of the district and city! And who gave them, the heads, money for the equipment at current prices and for people zpl, within the same budget? I would take a shovel waved ...
        And do not care, the main thing is to bring out the problem of making yourself a defender of the people and let others decide as they want. Comrades, but this is wrong! They work alone, while the other majority eats away the abdomen with chatter, very often dying out those who work. And it is encouraged. I would impose responsibility for defamation - please chat, but be responsible for the bazaar. It seems that there is such a law, but it does not work. One-sidedly everything. Somehow it’s not good where we are going ...
      5. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 10: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Sirocco
        he would have these ghouls on the ground

        Are you talking about our Khural and others like it?
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 1 December 2015 03: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Are you talking about our Khural and others like it?

          And about whom else, I generally think that these loafers and lobbyists should be dispersed, imagine how much it will be possible to make useful in the republic, with the help of freed funds.
    2. Fox
      Fox 30 November 2015 06: 46 New
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Andrey Yuryevich

      sorry 1 plus can be put ... Togliatti is also bent. Young people are dumped from a city where there is no work or prospects. And against this background, the nightingale is wondering about the new VESTA ... collected from the remains of Soviet and imported raw materials. Nothing is left of it .. .Even screwdrivers are imported from behind the hill.
    3. EvgNik
      EvgNik 30 November 2015 08: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      drive through the Urals, you’ll be horrified ..

      Here I am about the Urals. He cited his city more than once as an example. Only the capital, Perm, is being built and developed in the region. Well, to a lesser extent, several more cities in which factories and mines have been preserved. Which have a stable income. There is no need to talk about agriculture either - it is absent on a regional scale. Several large meat producers and poultry farms work, but how many arable lands are overgrown not with weeds, but with forests. Yes, in the 90s people grabbed the earth, everything was plowed up under potatoes, now this is not. The fields are again abandoned. And the garden plots are half empty. And we do not buy imported meat. But how many villages have been destroyed, how many are unemployed (official statistics lie three-four times downward). And again, despite all the pluses to Putin, the future is not visible even 10 years ahead.
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      2. Egen
        Egen 30 November 2015 09: 39 New
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        Quote: EvgNik
        He repeatedly cited his city as an example.

        Namesake, where are you from?
        Was at 2001 on a business trip to Kiesel. 300 km north of Perm. Then we looked at the restructuring program of mining single-industry towns what can be done with them. In our Kuzbass, you can somehow redraw, because the cities on the highway are located between large (240 km), some production, training - at least something can be done. And all the same, if Tuleyev had not lifted the coal industry from its knees - all this would be garbage. And Kizel is a dead end city, in principle, half of the people there - former miners - lived on benefits, and the second half - also on their benefits. And that’s all! In neighboring Gubakh, in spite of a hefty modern plant, there were enough problems for the eyes. I am afraid that now there is nothing left of the once glorious mining town (
  7. sa-zz
    sa-zz 30 November 2015 05: 57 New
    +8
    Tomorrow a dude in leather will come to you ... I’m sorry, in uniform, with a gun, on the tank and you will earn money for him

    He will only be star-striped in a tie, and with a smile a la Americano.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 30 November 2015 06: 19 New
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      He will only be star-striped in a tie, and with a smile a la Americano.

      Others may come much more bloodthirsty ...

      The first thing the terrorists did was shave Christians baldly, so they can be immediately distinguished from Muslims, seen in the crowd. All those whom they call "kuffars" (not faithful - Arab.), Men - were imposed an annual tribute of four golden dinars (4,25 grams of pure gold), forbidden to hold services, engage in trade, and bury people in Christian traditions. And most importantly, the settlement became the prototype of a concentration camp or ghetto for 277

      This is in Syria and Iraq ...
      Several mass graves of Yezidis have been found in IRAQ .... hundreds of women are lying in some of them ... that one can not hear the cries of human rights activists about the genocide of this people.
      1. sa-zz
        sa-zz 30 November 2015 06: 49 New
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        Others may come much more bloodthirsty ...

        Of course, they are also cunning, insidious and cruel. And they are frankly better seen. But in the vileness of the aglo-amero-Zionists there are no equal, they are more difficult to calculate, and they will not fight openly (because, by their nature, cowards). They will seek the same mentality (traitors-cowards-mercantilists) and will act secretly. Like Brzezinski (it seems), 90% of music - 9% of the truth - 1% of lies in the history and concepts of life, and on this try to nurture new generations of our children. But you can talk a lot about this.
        As for the article - I almost agree - the truth is a little pathetic, perhaps.
        And of course we have enough minuses, but as they say - that's another story. Something like that Alexey.
    2. perm23
      perm23 30 November 2015 06: 29 New
      +5
      Most likely it will be so. This star-striped uncle smiles, and the Poles, Ukrainian fascists and the Balts will kill — they’ll mock enough, of course, and our traitors.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 30 November 2015 07: 22 New
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        and the Poles, Ukrofashists and the Balts will kill - they’ll mock enough, of course, and our traitors.

        Absolutely true .... all the dirty work will be performed by those who genetically hate us, as it was in the Second World War.

      2. Same lech
        Same lech 30 November 2015 07: 25 New
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        It will be so only this time the Balts will be in ammunition and equipment from the United States ... so we are not building illusions about the integrity of our neighbors .... the Turks have painfully reminded us of this.
  8. Sars
    Sars 30 November 2015 06: 00 New
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    A remarkable illustration of the Russian economic scheme is the law on payment for freight transportation: transport workers should not pay money directly to the state, but to a private company (the son of Rottenberg).

    And the fight against corruption? Someone was imprisoned for theft at the construction of the cosmodrome or the Olympics?
    1. saksan
      saksan 30 November 2015 06: 39 New
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      Quote: SarS


      And the fight against corruption? Did anyone get jailed for theft?


      They planted Serdyukov at the Federal Air Transport Agency bully
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 30 November 2015 07: 31 New
      +4
      And the fight against corruption? Someone was imprisoned for theft at the construction of the cosmodrome or the Olympics?

      They recently arrested some kind of scumbag, threw the state at 287 million.

      On November 21, the Basmanny Court of Moscow sanctioned the arrest of two more defendants in the criminal case of embezzlement during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome - the former accountant of the FSUE GUSS Dalspetsstroy Vladimir Ashikhmin and the chief engineer of the project for equipping the Vostochny cosmodrome of the 31st State Design Institute for Special Construction


      Just a question of money where is ZIN ???

      The total damage from the entire company of crooks at the cosmodrome is somewhere around 4,5 billions ... wow
      what

      Serdyukov with his women nervously smokes aside.

      The worst thing is that the financial system itself is built in our state so that it allows us to steal money wagons again despite the landing of previous thieves ... who usually act as switchmen and without any hope of returning the stolen money.
  9. viktor561
    viktor561 30 November 2015 06: 01 New
    -1
    The article is felt from the heart! The author is boiling - he is right to criticize a win-win business - but "not only to watch, but also to see. Not only to listen, but also to hear" - not everyone is given. + to the author
    1. viktor561
      viktor561 2 December 2015 02: 25 New
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      To be stunned - 11 for - 12 against - I’m angry to challenge schoolchildren - would you go to other sites - your stars are not worth anything here - comfort your wisdom
  10. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 30 November 2015 06: 04 New
    +8
    М
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: My address
    He introduces modern feudalism. Not even capitalism, where specialists or people with some experience are needed. Where the main thing is loyalty to the leader. And feudalism is not viable. "He puts the devotees in their places, but smart and honest ones are needed."

    Feudalism may not be entirely, but the appointment of incompetent people in state bodies has become a direct scourge. No.


    You can remember a lot about the times of EBN. By the way, to hell, they opened a museum in the ECB and now take for example the case of a former defense minister and his girlfriend. But unfortunately the comments can not fix this situation. Here you need something more serious ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 07: 07 New
      +6
      Quote: Vladimir71
      about the times of EBN, by the way, to hell, a museum was opened in the ECB

      looked on TV, and swore, and the point was not about opening the crypt to the drunk, and not about the fact that the GDP was there, something else shocked: in those days when the situation in the world became literally explosive, Putin, in our region, dealt with. ..holes on the roads! that is, people-walkers complain to the President, but he understands! Here's an indicator of the "vertical of power". Why the hell do we need governors and "city managers" (pulls from the word). Comrade Putin will soon have to get behind the wheel of a road car and repair roads. Well, you can't do that! Well to such an extent to be liberal! After all, it was stupid to "fuck off" all the guilty, punish, imprison, replace! After such a spectacle, you begin to understand why the country is a mess ...
  11. dsi
    dsi 30 November 2015 06: 05 New
    +1
    Author Alexey Kazakov, Roman Skomorokhov

    For a long time I wanted to express this idea in the ear, I still could not formulate it, or maybe I was just afraid to get into a topic in which I am clearly not an expert. But still I will express it.

    Spoke out! Ah, well done! Get a plus sign!
    Yes, because gladiolus!
  12. noWAR
    noWAR 30 November 2015 06: 05 New
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    Friends have always been like this, no matter where the abyss of our land fell, there were always those who lifted it from its knees, We have a heroic past and I hope a great future.
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 30 November 2015 06: 34 New
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      Quote: noWAR
      Friends have always been like this, no matter where the abyss of our land fell, there were always those who lifted it from its knees, We have a heroic past and I hope a great future.

      We hope so. Russia so far belongs to itself, not like Europe. We are not doing well, but it’s not at all smooth. Salaries are small, we barely make ends meet, but we somehow reduce it. The main day is to stand and the night can hold out and maybe our grandchildren will live easier, although our grandfathers and grandmothers also dreamed about this, but compared to them, we live better than them. I support the President, but it’s time to land hard thieves at high levels at different levels.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 30 November 2015 12: 21 New
        +1
        , but high-level thieves at different levels, it's time to land hard. ,,
        Are you just Serdyukov? Yes, they landed so landed. Something is thought, and Khodokova will also land.
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 30 November 2015 12: 31 New
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          Quote: kotvov
          Are you just Serdyukov? Yes, they landed so they landed. Something is thought of and ...

          About that and speech! Enough with the likes of Serdyukov to clatter and, at our expense, to shove into new warm places. It's a shame!
    2. saksan
      saksan 30 November 2015 06: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: noWAR
      Friends have always been like this, no matter where the abyss of our land fell, there were always those who lifted it from its knees, We have a heroic past and I hope a great future.


      We are RUSSIAN, we still rise from our knees!
  13. Ivan Slavyanin
    Ivan Slavyanin 30 November 2015 06: 13 New
    +4
    And I remember how under Borka-Alkash I waited six months for a salary and my mother did not receive a pension for three months, often traveled "like a hare" on buses, because there was no money for travel! And now I can hardly find a parking space in the city and near the house for two of my cars! For 15 years I bought myself two apartments: one for my daughter for the future. And many of our citizens do not even consider our VAZ as a car, although 12 years ago they dreamed of 12 !!!!!!!!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 06: 34 New
      +7
      Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
      And now I can hardly find a parking space in the city and near the house for two of my cars! For 15 years I bought myself two apartments: one for my daughter for the future

      believe me, few people are so lucky ...
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 30 November 2015 07: 36 New
        +2
        I do not know, I am a state employee, I myself have only one car, but there are enough people around who are "lucky." They go to Thailand, Vietnam on vacation, easily. No one allowed them to rollbacks, they do not trade sneakers. The well-being of the majority, nevertheless, has grown. This must be admitted. And more recently, it was impossible to walk 100 meters around the city, so as not to meet a drug addict. Now they are at least not visible. A friend by profession, a narcologist, sits in a polyclinic, guessing crosswords. Five years ago, the crowds in his corridor stood for lunch, there was no time to go.
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 30 November 2015 07: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
      And now I can hardly find a parking space in the city and near the house for two of my cars! For 15 years I bought myself two apartments:

      Here, I am poking these arguments into the eyes and poking those who are not so wrong.
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      believe me, few people are so lucky ...

      You see, Andrei Yurievich, I don’t know who was lucky and who wasn’t, but almost all the neighbors in transport have loans and not one at a time. If my memory serves me, in the 90s at EBN, we never dreamed about this. The standard of living has undoubtedly grown, to take the cost of apartments in the 90s when everyone ran away from here, the difference is somewhere around 15-20 times.
      Why are we all unlucky with local leaders, deputies.
      Take fires in Buryatia this year, what is the reason? The forest flared up, and the drivers with their hands are afraid to take a decision on this situation, the chair stuck to the pope with all the benefits of civilization. Even Puchkov flew in, and he did not understand the situation, they say we put it out for 7 days. Yeah, figs to you. Well, from unemployment, the whole forest fell out, the tops are dry at every corner.
      What to do with these generals whom one man feeds? We are definitely not lucky with them, although we ourselves choose them.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 07: 14 New
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        Quote: Sirocco
        You see, Andrei Yurievich, I don’t know who was lucky and who wasn’t, but, almost all the neighbors in transport, everyone has loans and not one at a time

        Volodya, cars are much more affordable than housing, and for an hour, they’re just necessary, not to roll your ass, but to earn a piece of bread. You look at who the youngsters work: managers, traders, couriers, taxi drivers, etc. ... so now the car is not an indicator good condition of man, but rather his cross.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 30 November 2015 07: 58 New
          +1
          Nevertheless, few people could afford this cross in the 90s.
          And the fact that we have only managers and traders, this is the state’s fault, and the education system, because the state orders the specialists he needs through the education system, and it ordered, or rather let it drift. Now we have what we fought for. I wrote the day before yesterday that industry was divorced from education. Private traders will not invest in vocational schools.
    3. Egen
      Egen 30 November 2015 09: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Ivan Slavyanin
      And many of our citizens do not even consider our VAZ to be cars, although even 12 years ago they dreamed of 12 ah !!!!!!!!

      I dreamed of 80 at the beginning of the 2107's - it was a dream of life! )
  14. ML-334
    ML-334 30 November 2015 06: 13 New
    16
    All this is good, but we are waiting for reprisals against people who have robbed and continue to rob the whole people. I do not like all these liberals, in the 90s liberalism was enough for everyone who survived, did not forget. I am for the death penalty, thieves, murderers lost, I'm not talking about traitors and terrorists.
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 November 2015 06: 22 New
    +4
    Plus. Especially considering the fact that one of the authors is a fellow countryman, from Vladivostok.
    Now it’s certainly better than it was before Putin arrived.
    After all, then the governor ruled the land really as his patrimony,
    not part of the country. Only now in Primorye the recession is going on again.
    More precisely in Vladivostok. For the port city, where everything is tied to the bustle of the port.
    Trade, logistics, warehousing, service.
    And now it's all dying. But this is the main income of the region now.
    And that the most fig-free frames are not to retrain, not to offer a similar job ...
    Itself would be retrained as an electrician, but nowhere.
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 30 November 2015 06: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Zomanus
      Itself would be retrained as an electrician, but nowhere.

      How nowhere? If you work and have money, then in any institution of vocational training, and if you are unemployed, then go to the Employment Center, there they will offer you vocational training free of charge for you, they have corresponding programs that are funded by the state.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 07: 15 New
        +3
        Quote: Tatar 174
        How nowhere? If you work and have money, then in any institution of vocational training, and if you are unemployed, then go to the Employment Center, there they will offer you vocational training free of charge for you, they have corresponding programs that are funded by the state.

        country, this is not one of your cities, do you think everything is everywhere? you are mistaken ...
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 30 November 2015 08: 06 New
        -1
        Quote: Tartar 174
        How nowhere? If you work and have money, then in any institution of vocational training, and if you are unemployed, then go to the Employment Center, there they will offer you vocational training free of charge for you, they have corresponding programs that are funded by the state.

        You can see that "Tatar"! from the Republic of Tatarstan, where "corrupt officials and managers" are in power ... But things are going, however? why would that? Or maybe because they are not "this" and not "that" ... but all this (Roskomnadzor will prohibit, or not?) Is nonsense! blowing up the ashes, trying to strike a spark - nothing but dust and chilling in the nose ...
        ... This is the question "someone has empty cabbage soup, while someone has shallow pearls"! We lived at the same time - the same 90s! But - in the same Tatarstan: yes, it was hard; but - whiners are an order of magnitude less! Yes, and salaries for six months ... But - they worked, got into debt ... They broke through, nevertheless! Yes, it happened - and ate poorly ... They planted potatoes, cabbage, everything else - they plowed all the inconveniences! They baked bread themselves, twisted pasta themselves ... But we have whiners! - it was a little! ...
        There were both "brigades" and "brothers" - they coped without the help of the police, the BKD experience was rich ...
        So - yes, there are claims to the authorities! but, on the other hand, aren't these claims to themselves? Well I chose them ... supported ... promoted! ... Complain about the imperfect electoral system (anticipating the whiners-opponents!)? No, "the kidneys fell off" ...
        ... further "oppose", I think, it makes no sense; because - all this "opponents" - a question of character, personal psychology and temperament ... from which it is very difficult to distance yourself! unless he died in due time! ...
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 30 November 2015 12: 41 New
          +1
          The Tatars not only live in Tatarstan, that’s the way, by the way ... And about training, if there is a desire that interferes, just do not need to whine.
          Quote: CONTROL
          Yes, I had a hard time; but - whiners are much smaller! Yes, and salaries for six months ... But - they worked, climbed into debt ... They broke through, nevertheless! Yes, it happened - and ate poorly ... They planted potatoes, cabbage, everything else - all the inconvenience was plowed up! They baked the bread themselves, they turned the pasta themselves ..

          He himself went through all this, and he personally learned how to bake bread and for almost two years he fed his own bread with his own bread and I don’t even say that from the end of April to the end of September he worked in the garden, and now I work all the time. Whining is not necessary, whining leads to a decline in strength and health, we will continue to be optimistic!
      3. EvgNik
        EvgNik 30 November 2015 08: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: Tatar 174
        vocational training is free for you; they have relevant programs that are funded by the state.

        Ah, ah. What a joy the current professional training is. I was still working, and they began to demand that training be conducted exclusively in Perm. Carried out. "Specialists" came from there and had to be taught from scratch. Only before we were paid for this, but after training at the center it was believed that the specialist was ready, and they stopped paying. Teach without payment. That is, again, once again, someone not working gets money, and someone does the work for them.
  16. Vladycat
    Vladycat 30 November 2015 06: 27 New
    +5
    I ride this track myself every day. Yes, buildings are being built, but more all kinds of warehouses, logistics complexes. Fields - yes, I agree, more and more often you can buy your own and not Chinese. And we made good roads. But partly for the summit, and partly for the playing area. On the whole, I agree to criticize my country, the cause of the liberals. But it is necessary to fight with officials, although it looks hopeless. It is necessary to learn to own his head, and not mindlessly join the chorus of "all-prophets", "urapatriots", etc. IHMO
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 30 November 2015 08: 15 New
      -2
      Quote: Vladycat
      I ride this track myself every day. Yes, buildings are being built, but more all kinds of warehouses, logistics complexes. Fields - yes, I agree, more and more often you can buy your own and not Chinese. And we made good roads. But partly for the summit, and partly for the playing area. On the whole, I agree to criticize my country, the cause of the liberals. But it is necessary to fight with officials, although it looks hopeless. It is necessary to learn to own his head, and not mindlessly join the chorus of "all-prophets", "urapatriots", etc. IHMO

      Here are finally the golden words!
      Roads - for the money of just "game zones" ... Along the road - and what else to be, if not warehouses and "logistics centers" (still an ugly phrase! ...)
      To look deeper from the highway - and housing (well, expensive ... maybe for now? ...), and the shops of all kinds of "small", medium and LLC ...
      Even deeper - new workshops at factories are being rebuilt ... The equipment is being updated - from the same "logistics" it is taken there ... Who builds these workshops? builders, of course! Who installs the equipment? "is it starting up?" equips with communications? Yeah, not from the "well-disposed air" all this appears ...
  17. Corporal Valera
    Corporal Valera 30 November 2015 06: 27 New
    +8
    In general, it is poorly understood, what do you critics really need?

    Personally, I need to return the Soviet system of education. There I still have a little list, but education comes first! Now I’m thinking how to transfer the front from the monitor to the minobra
  18. sv-georgij
    sv-georgij 30 November 2015 06: 29 New
    -1
    And where to get these most competent officials? They are simply not there.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 30 November 2015 08: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: sv-georgij
      And where to get these most competent officials? They are simply not there.

      I do not like them - but! we still have them! ...
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 30 November 2015 08: 58 New
        +6
        Quote: CONTROL
        I do not like them - but! we still have them! ..

        Very agree. Not everyone steals. Only for some reason, in places where you can steal a lot - there are still thieves.
  19. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 30 November 2015 06: 33 New
    +2
    We (hope that many "we") want to be proud of our country.
    With Putin, such pride finally began to appear.
    I don’t sing praises, I’m just glad that our country, though with a creak, is becoming stronger.
    All western hysteria testifies to it recently.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 30 November 2015 08: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: Al_oriso
      I don’t sing praises, I’m just glad that our country, though with a creak, is becoming stronger.
      All western hysteria testifies to it recently.

      And all at once, with the words "crack-pack-fax" and nothing happens! It happens, and the whole life is spent! And even not one ...
      That is why a country needs an ideology - or a national idea! Our ancestors - great-grandfathers, grandfathers, and fathers - lived on this idea, and - sought!
      ... and we thought of ruining what they achieved - for us, our children!
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 30 November 2015 10: 41 New
      +3
      With Putin, such pride finally began to appear.
      I knew what to be proud of in the USSR, but here if you turn off the TV, and go out and talk with people ... What is proud of the fact that we buy cars for petrodollars?
      This has been evidenced by all Western hysteria lately
      you do not read Western newspapers, but on the body they will show you one thing today, and tomorrow the same thing, but vice versa.
      1. jogin
        jogin 30 November 2015 11: 08 New
        -5
        Quote: Gardamir
        I knew something to be proud of in the USSR

        And what? Tell me, because somehow in those days I often missed political information. Therefore did not know. I'd like to know what I missed.
  20. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2015 06: 39 New
    0
    Many urge to stop investing in the army

    Not many are calling, but a certain part under the sonorous word "liberal". But whoever calls for this simply needs to be given a complete shock. What is often done on various political talk shows, but these so-called. For some reason, "liberals" feel like heroes defending democracy on the American model. At the same time, they continue to work in prestigious positions, including state companies.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 30 November 2015 08: 28 New
      0
      but these so-called. For some reason, "liberals" feel like heroes defending democracy
      Yes, and - “suffering for the people!” What is possible - to be proud of the role of “suffering for the people” (Nemtsov!) In a democratic state! In a totalitarian one - with a boot in the snout ... and it hurts ... to the point of blood ... And not at all as "beautiful" as on the platform with posters at some opposition rally ...
  21. avva2012
    avva2012 30 November 2015 06: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: xavbek7
    If only because we (those who are for Putin) are much more. And our patience is not unlimited.

    It is also necessary to remember that there are not only more "us of those", and we not only survived, but also did not get sick in the 90s.
  22. BLOND
    BLOND 30 November 2015 06: 43 New
    +3
    - I put the article + (My opinion is)
    - 07.06.2014/90/XNUMX (who does not know on this day the inauguration of Poroshenko) took his family from Donbass to the Rostov region, and drove the feeling that something was wrong ... The roads are ideal compared to the Ukrainian ones (I compared federal Russian with Ukrainian, i.e. the main routes). Then I realized when you were driving along the roads of the Rostov and Voronezh regions there was a persistent smell of manure ... When asked why it smells like that, I got an answer ... there is a poultry farm, a livestock complex was built there ... And about the XNUMXs, how it was all destroyed and the country sat down on the legs of the bush.
    - in the Donbass, and in the main part of Ukraine, the smell of manure is no longer audible, we have lost the habit of eating meat with rare exceptions
  23. rassel0889
    rassel0889 30 November 2015 06: 48 New
    +1
    I read the first lines, and immediately flipped down to leave + and a comment. I completely agree with the statement that people have a short memory ... I am 26 years old and I belong to the so-called lost generation of children ... wooden toys nailed to the floor is my childhood, and seeing now how the current generation of children lives, I sincerely rejoice that they are our future, and if this loss used to scare us, now I see that our country has a future. And not just the future, but a great future, and we live in an era of these changes. Moreover, the contrast is not even obvious with the 90s (I didn’t really get into it) even in 2012, the presidential election ... swamp ... liberals everywhere cursed the country and Putin and rejoiced when the curses came true, there was complete uncertainty in the future, and even in the present did not know whom to believe, whom to listen to. But even in the 12s, even if not so clearly, our country already had successes. And if it were not for the Maidan Khokhlyat, it is not known how it all ended. And so they gave us such a kick in the ass that the third world country, from consumers and egoists, has turned into a Super Power with real patriots. The main thing to remember is what happened and what is, now it’s important not to forget it in the future.

    Sincere thanks ALL THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR COUNTRY, THAT FIND THE FORCE TO RISE FROM KNEELS INTO FULL GROWTH, BUT HAVE STEELED ABOVE THE "CHOSEN NATION" BY ORDER! WELL, AND ALL PEOPLE LIVING IN RUSSIA, FOR THAT ENOUGH THE PATIENCE OF ALL THIS TO WAIT!

    WELL AND CAN'T THANK THE MAIN GUILT OF ALL THIS,
    THANKS TO OBAMA THIS MONKEY, WHICH RIDING AT US AS KAKAKHAMI (the beginning of conflicts in Ukraine and Syria) WANTED BETTER FOR YOURSELF, AND GOT ​​HOW ALWAYS THE MONKEY HANDS IN GOMNE AND IT HAS NOT ...

    AMERICA is beautiful, but RUSSIA IS WHERE THERE IS FORCE !!! (C) RepGroup ellipsis, the track was written in the 90s, who cares, listen, then the guys even believed (or knew) the whole essence of Americanism ... we’re too tough for them! drinks
    1. rassel0889
      rassel0889 30 November 2015 07: 11 New
      +2
      I decided to lay out the test of the song, as far as it sneaks now ... I repeat, it was written at the worst time (something that many forgot about) For about 15 years this track has been energizing, I wanted to believe what was written, and now it happened! WE ARE POWER !!

      America, America is beautiful, But Russia is where there is power, that is where power is! America, bringing Russia only lies and whim, Powdered under the beauty of a venal and empty life, Pours into the brains of our youths, Trying to replace our foundations, Trying to change the essence of the Russian worldview, To knock out the foundations of life, to make sure that we, without thinking Look at the pointer, see in it a fairy tale For millions of dollars eventually sold themselves, choking on popcorn in cinemas.

      The power of money! What?! Dirt to their heart's content! Twisted sixes, for that - a trump suit! They shout that envy plays in us! No f * ck I like that, pure water - hatred! You can’t love, you can’t respect sh * t, From which myths are molded - it's just ridiculous! The psychos are gasping, we have a stink. America - no maze! Russia knows this.

      I haven't been to the states and I don't give a shit about what's going on there. I grew up in Russia in its capital, Where there is no reason for people to get angry, When the roof is on fire, their values ​​are higher - this is a feature of the Russian soul! The fact that you have an "American dream", we have - a dream for an idiot! We are birds, we are birds of free flight. And let everyone think that power on the world map is on the left, We know that on the right, Russia is a Great Power! We are birds!

      Hey! Stop, enough negativity, my home is my fortress. Do not say: "Russia is bad!", Picking up the crumbs of the West, This is a trap, xy * locked, Believe me, it is designed for those Who do not care about the Motherland. America wanted peace, became a shooting gallery. Souls sold to Bush for peace of mind, food. At gunpoint, their world order is collapsing, the Order of obesity, show-off and cabbage beds.

      Source: http://rap-game.ru/
  24. Aleksander
    Aleksander 30 November 2015 06: 51 New
    +7
    The authors are largely right, but how to understand, for example, Putin’s statement on sanctions:

    "We, I would say, have a unique case that those who wanted to prevent us even help us, because we forced concentrate your efforts on your own internal development. What we yesterday bought with ease for the so-called petrodollars yesterday, today we are thinking how to produce it ourselves. And for this it is necessary to deal with fundamental science, and applied science, high-tech areas of production. We are all this will be do"

    The statement, to put it mildly, is dumbfounded. Why what obvious to millions of ordinary citizens было always("to produce by ourselves, to engage in both fundamental science, and applied science, high-tech areas of production") - for the top it became a revelation only today and they FORCED (!) belay do it only after "hit" sanctions? Maybe putting a person with a club near the Kremlin and the number of right things will increase dramatically?
    The authors mention the terrible 90 years — and weren't the 90 years glorified a couple of days ago by the cynical opening of the EBN Center in the presence of top officials of the state (thus neglecting the opinion of 95% of their constituents)?
    There are many questions, answers ....
  25. press officer
    press officer 30 November 2015 07: 03 New
    -1
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    Putin is definitely the brain and leader of the entire "movement" in the country, but it is scary what kind of "perestroika" and "reforms" those who follow him can "please" us .. and there is no need to reassure yourself that everything is thought out, etc. events are usually chaotic and avalanche-like.


    This is not called feudalism! MANUAL COUNTRY CONTROL! Article +++! Unfortunately, if someone paid attention, we have no pi .... as without gingerbread in the field! Under EBN, everyone has successfully adapted to tyrit everything that is bad under the "national anthem, a big country is enough for everyone," so now the GDP has to deal with the manual control of the country. At the same time, the time now is not very easy for this. Believe me, it is not easy to govern a country where the people seem to be with you, but at the same time they are trying to live not according to the laws, but as they used to! And maybe someone will remember when we could directly address the president? Not? VVP was the first to introduce it and the people like it!
    And you know, I went through the 90s (which EBN's wife talks about with a happy gleam in her eyes) and went through them very hard, there was a baby in my arms. Therefore, I believe that now we have become much better and if you cite myself as an example: now I have my own housing (the state issued instead of an emergency one!), I have an excellent job and a stable salary (and I do not take loans !!!) , food, clothing, and the ability to go anywhere and buy anything! It's just that not everyone knows how to live within their means! Yes, I believe that in healthcare it is necessary to 100% change the minister and the entire system (although there are already positive examples of correction) and 100% change the educational program, and preferably to the same as we had in the USSR! It seems that no one has grown up like fools of us, cannot be compared with today's youth! repeat
    P.S. And after all, if we do not find fault (as we love) the president, but do something and not whine, then everything will be even better with us! And now, unfortunately, the time has come hard .. (because of the dill and mattress). Therefore, you just have to be patient. And everything will work out. yes
  26. Stepan stepanovich
    Stepan stepanovich 30 November 2015 07: 04 New
    +1
    xavbek7
    And now, a center for a dead drunkard in Yekaterinburg is being opened, with PIN.DO.sov money, and they are trying to tell me and my children what a wonderful person a half-drunk, elderly ub.lu.doc was who stood at the head of my country in the 90s. Guys scolding Putin, turn on the instinct of self-preservation. If only because there are many more of us (those who are for Putin), and our patience is not unlimited.


    xavbek7, now your "template will break":
    1. xavbek7
      xavbek7 30 November 2015 07: 12 New
      +3
      Did not break))), political moment panimaesh)))
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  27. Irbis
    Irbis 30 November 2015 07: 04 New
    0
    As one of the authors, I will finish saying something that they did not write in the article.

    You can change everything at once in only one way - by revolution. Well, you threw all the heads at the same time indiscriminately and put new ones. Firstly, where to get such a number of specialists at the same time. Secondly, they need time to gain experience and understand the system. And if we consider that the case sometimes even happens not in the boss himself, but in the links of the executive chain, which he cannot directly control. The only painless way out of this situation is the gradual replacement of personnel. But this is not done in five minutes.

    As an educator, I agree that medicine is certainly not very good with us ... But you try to get medical help in Japan, for example. Nah ... Of course, if you have money, it’s not a question, and if not? Again, much depends on local leadership. I can judge by sport and I will say that in Vladivostok it has always been difficult with this question, because of the leadership of the krainsport committee? Is Putin also to blame? Our direct appointment is only to be appointed by the security agencies, and all that concerns civilian life is decided by the local government. If in Vladivostok reduced the number of trains and buses - Putin ordered to do this? For example, in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky and Khabarovsk, you can easily leave after 11 hours, even outside the city. Some buses go up to one in the morning. And in Vladik, buses die after 9 evenings.

    The same Vladimir Putin cannot control everything. We have the Federation Council and other bodies for this. Again, Miklushevsky comes to him and says that everything in him is excellent in Primorye. I don’t think that someone will ask him a question about the electric trains.

    My opinion is that everything is done consistently. At first they paid off their debts, saved up money, restore the army and industry, which I do not know will follow. Everything rests on the means. But one thing is clear that without the development of education and the involvement of young people in production, this will never be done. I do not think that this is not known to Putin’s team.

    All this happens without problems, if there is no opposition. None of the palace intrigues did not fail. The inter-clan struggle for power or for spheres of influence has not disappeared anywhere. In such an environment, the last thing I want to be president of the Russian Federation)))))

    And at the expense of the revolution ... How many have their country gone through with us? Odd new one does not want. Moreover, when it comes to power hungry and angry. These even steeper than the previous ones will be stealing.
    1. jogin
      jogin 30 November 2015 11: 01 New
      -4
      Quote: Irbis
      There is only one way to change everything at once - by revolution.

      If for the worse, then yes, a revolution. Any revolution, even a progressive bourgeois revolution in a feudal country, will work ONLY for the future. And first you will have to go through all its "charms" of the initial period. The initial period of any bourgeois state and society has always been, is and will be a tough authoritarian regime of the Bonapartist (in the USSR they liked to use the term "fascist") type. With all that it implies. The severity of such a regime in each particular country always depends on the national mentality. So, draw your own conclusions.
      But one need not think about the bourgeois revolution, in Russia there are no objective prerequisites for it. Therefore, talking about it is unnecessary. At least today.
      Still about the same for the worse can be done by changing the form of government within the same feudal OEF, as it happened many times in the USSR in the 20th century. This is usually called a palace coup or a coup. They are capable of doing a lot of mischief and shedding a lot of blood. For example, as it was in the 30s, when Dzhugashvili carried out his coup d'etat and replaced "Bolshevism" with "socialism."
      However, if the form of government changes within the same CEF, positive changes are also possible. And, quite abruptly, here and now. An example is the "Khrushchev thaw". But, again, this is not a revolution. And there is little hope for such a miracle. Yet the "Khrushchev thaw" followed "Stalin's socialism." When the population was reduced to a completely bestial state. Today the situation is different. Therefore, today it is better without changes. Chances are too great that change will only be for the worse.
      PS. "So that you live in an era of change" is an ancient Chinese curse.
  28. beer-youk
    beer-youk 30 November 2015 07: 05 New
    +6
    Quote: emercom1979
    It can be corrected through lawsuits and statements to the prosecutor's office.


    I remembered an ancient anecdote. "I always thought that the gaytsy were the main extortionists, until I ran into the customs officers. The other day I turned to the prosecutor's office ... Customs officers are saints!"
  29. Alex66
    Alex66 30 November 2015 07: 14 New
    +2
    If Putin had the same clear domestic policy as his foreign one, I would not have a shadow of doubt.
  30. NVVPOU
    NVVPOU 30 November 2015 07: 18 New
    +4
    I respect the authors of the article for the core. Since we are VO readers, I will say in the words of A.V. Suvorov: "Faith in a commander is a guarantee of victory", "Skill and love for one's Motherland are an impenetrable shield."
    I do not consider myself one of the people who can give advice to people like our President, but I think that everyone in his place should be honest: both at work and at home. "Every soldier should know his own maneuver."
    1. theodore rasp
      theodore rasp 30 November 2015 09: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: NVVPOU
      I do not consider myself one of the people who can give advice to people like our President,


      In general, I agree with your message, but I would very much like the President to be guided in everything by the centuries-old experience of our Motherland - for foreigners we are always an enemy. Russia is a bone in the throat. And all adjectives - monarchist, socialist, democratic, liberal - are superficial, nothing more than a pretext. While we are, they will try to destroy us. So, maybe it's time to put on the "world community" and act strictly in their own interests ?!
  31. sa-ag
    sa-ag 30 November 2015 07: 27 New
    0
    "... We do not shout" hurray! "On every occasion, we do not call for" killing the devils everywhere and everywhere. "We do not demand to unleash a nuclear war and ruin thousands of our fellow citizens in Ukraine or Syria."

    Well, yes, enough recent comments to read, everything is just there and there is a "hurray", and the awakening of Yellowstone with a nuclear missile and the Bosphorus Sea, and a tactical nuclear charge, which is not there, probably reason.
    And yes, about Putin, we take the recent statement with the Ayatollah "We need to build more gas pipelines ...", it is very indicative of the orientation of the economy, about lobbying a certain financial and industrial group
  32. Stepan stepanovich
    Stepan stepanovich 30 November 2015 07: 41 New
    0
    xavbek7
    Did not break))), political moment panimaesh)))


    I agree, there is still a "political" moment:

    Just The Return of the Prodigal Son by Rembrandt!
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 30 November 2015 09: 39 New
      -1
      Quote: Stepan Stepanovich
      I agree, there is still a "political" moment:

      Just The Return of the Prodigal Son by Rembrandt!

      There is a remake from Serov. Putin's walkers. Also a good moment, as they say, a good photographer is worth its weight in gold.
  33. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 November 2015 07: 42 New
    +3
    I strongly agree with the authors. Our memory is short. And it is difficult for Russia to develop through not only "old sins", but also the obvious opposition of the surrounding world. Well, the mattress did not work to finish off Russia. Not counted. We relaxed too early, did not divide Russia into parts, there are Far Eastern, Ural, Siberian, Tatar, Bashkir and other, other, other republics. Take away nuclear weapons, deal with the army, destroy the military-industrial complex. They did a lot, but not all, the Russians did not die out and, as it turned out, they are quite alive and feel good. After all, we really SURVIVED, and did not live in the early 90s. And everyone remembers the default of 98th? But then there were no sanctions, and exactly with all their might they "helped" with loans, from which, thank God, they got rid of them at an accelerated pace.
    A few words about how some are outraged that they say only the sanctions made us think about production and import substitution. No, they thought before. Yes, when you have so many worries, those worries that "do not really itch" are put off "for later." Anyone knows this by himself, but in the government that, not people?
  34. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 30 November 2015 08: 00 New
    +2
    And what was built in 15 years? (Please do not include shopping centers and factories of "screwdriver assembly" in the list of achievements) 15 Years! If we start from the 45th, in a year we will fly into space ....
    1. Darkoff
      Darkoff 30 November 2015 08: 48 New
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      And what was built in 15 years? (Please do not include shopping centers and factories of "screwdriver assembly" in the list of achievements) 15 Years! If we start from the 45th, in a year we will fly into space ....

      I wanted to start listing, yes, when it came to my mind that the post would be too big, I thought: a lot of honor!
      If you do not have enough information, do your own education.
      Internet to help you.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 30 November 2015 09: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Ecilop
      And what was built in 15 years?

      What we have done can be read on:
      http://sdelanounas.ru/
      I highly recommend it, by the way, I (we) were recommended exactly on VO.
  35. Sanyht
    Sanyht 30 November 2015 08: 02 New
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    our town is on the average with a salary gr. Miller - he even lives WELL! You just have to WORK MORE - THIS IS THE LAW OF NATURE !!!
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 30 November 2015 09: 15 New
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      Quote: Sanyht
      our town is on the average with a salary gr. Miller

      Well, we do not need to powder our brains. I looked at the site of your city.
      http://www.061.ua/news/1044028
      This is the first thing that caught my eye. And then, of course, "Holodomor", which is celebrated only in Ukraine. Look disgusting. I didn't even put a minus - I disdain to offend the poor.
  36. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 30 November 2015 08: 02 New
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    We won't fly. The 18th floor to the castle and lengthening the yacht by 10 meters is a higher priority ...
  37. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 30 November 2015 08: 10 New
    +1
    Is it worth listening to all the cries at all? This business is useless! Let who wants that and fantasize about what is needed and how. Paper or a monitor will endure. Usually all loafers and losers are scolded. Those who are independent and successful, on the contrary, think positively, and make the world a little better, even in their own shell. If each of us makes the world around a little better, it will be a big breakthrough to civilization. But oddly enough, most just watch around and do nothing. And the politics of the country is a very complicated matter. And you can hardly judge at home everything, including our response to enemies. At stake is not only we and the adversary, but the whole world ... By the way, I must admit that in Russia, like nowhere else, you can do a lot on your own! Try to do something abroad yourself!
  38. Stinger
    Stinger 30 November 2015 08: 15 New
    -1
    The world lives by criminal laws

    This is the essence of capitalism. It was not for nothing that Bender sent the book "Capitalist Sharks" to A. I. Koreyko, where the first phrase was outlined in blue pencil and read: "All major modern fortunes were acquired in the most dishonorable way."
    The authors of the article are right. If now the guys who peacefully (with tanks) overthrew the first parliament and held fair elections with the victory of EBN are fighting for the honest ones, then what else to talk about? And you can't get away from professional clever people teaching innocent population. They, like flies, flock into a swarm to flock to the city. Honey with their recipes when things are getting better.
  39. Neophyte
    Neophyte 30 November 2015 08: 22 New
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    With all due respect to GDP and its forced recognition of the merits of the BNE (transfer of power
    Putin), after all, it was not necessary to inflate the hysteria of Yeltsinism to such a scale?
    History, of course, will arrange everything accordingly, but a bitter residue remains!
  40. igorv501
    igorv501 30 November 2015 08: 23 New
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    Good praises, but the authors would like to say that they should not write about what they don’t have 100% information in order not to mislead the population. Unless of course only this article is an order for rating research.
  41. Darkoff
    Darkoff 30 November 2015 08: 35 New
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    Plus, I definitely add this article. it is impossible to disagree with her.
    Putin is also a definite plus. But he has a significant drawback: soft.
    Of course, there are a lot of problems in the country, but you cannot ask for everything that causes complaints. He cannot physically engage himself personally. Look at his schedule. My question is when is he sleeping? It was only at the last meeting of the ONF asset that I noticed fatigue in his eyes. And I would have just died.
    But, here’s the trouble: he doesn’t attach the government to their doorposts as we would like.
    But, on the other hand, frames must be treated responsibly. Yes, the team turned out to be not perfect, but changing people, like swinging a saber, is also impossible. For example, as I see it, he is forced to keep Medvedev purely historically. At one time (long before the 2008 elections), a bet was made on him as a substitute and a lot was invested in him in order to guarantee votes in the elections. And he, after all, became no one, but the president of the Russian Federation. And what to do now, when he does not suit many? Take it and throw it away? That is, to admit that the one who is now not suitable for the premieres was nominated by the authorities as the head of state? This is impossible for at least three reasons:
    1) loss of image, as described above;
    2) some may collapse, but the team, and this is already a considerable instability, which no one needs now;
    3) in the event of Medvedev's expulsion, he can become a "crystal formation center" of the liberal opposition, putting on the crown of thorns of a political martyr.
    And no one will be faithful to the leader who throws people like pawns and strive for his team. I do not want to say that all ministers are now loyal to Putin, like dogs. Not. But, if they are constantly shuffled, this will contribute to the fact that they will feel like temporary workers (for which I will strain if they remove me in 2-3 months).
    And where to get them, such as Putin?
  42. CONTROL
    CONTROL 30 November 2015 08: 37 New
    +1
    An article, although one-sided, but +!
    ... on the other hand, as you know, "you cannot embrace the immense" ... But you must strive for this!
  43. surrozh
    surrozh 30 November 2015 08: 40 New
    +3
    The country serves the interests of big business, which is not interested in the development of its own country, therefore "capital outflow is 70-110 billion dollars a year." But it took Stalin more than 15 years for an economic breakthrough, and here is "soft power", although there are already achievements. Plus, I think that the civil war that Yeltsin unleashed ("princely feuds" between Russia, Belarus, Ukraine) continues in Russia, and in such conditions it is very difficult to create something, but nevertheless progress is evident (military-industrial complex, agricultural sector, road construction) ...
  44. iv-nord
    iv-nord 30 November 2015 09: 07 New
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    If so, answer the question: why does Putin increase pensions for the elderly? [/ Quote]

    Retire soon! Live! But thanks for that too.
  45. Sanya Rus
    Sanya Rus 30 November 2015 09: 11 New
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    an incomprehensible article, some kind of agitation, in a refined language, but Putin has the highest rating, it is supported by the overwhelming majority of the population, if this article was published 10 years ago, maybe it would be relevant, and now it's time to say that it’s time to move on from GDP half measure and take full growth for the revival of the country, much has been done, but much more needs to be done and not relax and rest on our laurels.
  46. ahil
    ahil 30 November 2015 09: 30 New
    +2
    Judge not according to his words, but according to his deeds. And this must be done in any sphere of human activity. Vladimir Putin at the moment is a hammer!
  47. runway
    runway 30 November 2015 09: 35 New
    +6
    Another article from the series "Putin is good - the boyars are bad."
    The fact that some people live better today than in the recent past is certainly encouraging. But we are not talking about you and me. According to OFFICIAL statistics, we, such "successful", are only 10 percent of the total population of our country.
    The worst thing is that the vile counter-revolution, carried out by state criminals known to all of us, continues to destroy our country today.
  48. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 30 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +3
    The memory, say, is short. This, depending on whom.
    Remember how bad you lived in the 90s? And, who put a hand to this, remember? Remember that Russian President Vladimir Putin was a member of the team of Sobchak and Yeltsin? Forgot that Putin is a former "communist" and a member of the KGB of the USSR? What tasks does the KGB have - remember?
    Remember how bad life was in the 90s. But Putin doesn't think so. Opening of the Yeltsin Center: "The main task of the center is to preserve, study and comprehend the historical heritage of Boris Yeltsin in the context of political and social events of the 90s of the XX century." I am in favor of such a center, if it also includes betrayal, careerism, ambition, drunkenness, a conspiracy against the USSR, the shooting of Parliament, the Chechen wars .... Only there will be none of this.
    I remember not only the bad, but also the good in Putin’s actions, but there’s no need to make an icon out of him.
    Ah, I still remember how we lived in the 70s. And you?
  49. Vikings
    Vikings 30 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +1
    After reading, there is a double feeling. The facts cited are largely not
    porim.No there are questions ??? Until endure all this chaos with bribery
    dullness, and official indifference? I wanted to see changes during our lives
    for the better
  50. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 30 November 2015 09: 41 New
    +1
    15 years ago came to power. What happened? The country is on the verge of collapse, 2 was going on the Chechen war (forgot?), Industry in deep ....
    How to formulate correctly, I ask you to understand the idea: during his reign, he not only pulled the country out of the deepest pit, stopped wars on its territory, returned the country to superpower status. At the same time, it made this an impossible method (here I am personally shocked): without waging wars on foreign territory. 08.08.08 it was an answer, not aggression. The country not only kept within its former borders, but also began to regain what was lost. Crimea: there are no words at all. The whole world is still fucking fucking up - how can you capture (well, their understanding) an entire peninsula with virtually no shots and no casualties?
    The highest manifestation of force is to achieve one’s goal without the use of force, although there is an opportunity (is) to solve everything much more simply - by military means. He gave the order - and forward, the army, and the fact that we went home with a stream of zinc is not a problem. So now there is no such thing: they began to cherish the soldiers. I don’t know how he does it, but it’s a fact: with minimal casualties, the country receives what tens or hundreds of thousands of our guys would pay with their lives at other times and under other rulers.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 30 November 2015 10: 59 New
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      An interesting article and very interesting comments (as opposed to those that offered to bang Ya.O., Turkey). Apparently, many have boiled, like mine. And if you look at what is happening in the country, somewhat under a different bias?
      In any country in the world there is a hierarchy (as in any human society). That is, a priori, must exist elite(oligarchs, nothing to do with it, these are different things). The elite, at present, consists of financial and industrial groupings, interconnected by family, financial and other ties. In my opinion, the classic example is the United States. Outwardly, the political system consists of two parties. Democratic (representatives of the "South" elite) and republican ("North" respectively). In other countries, there are also two main parties. All this banal information, I wrote, coming to a certain conclusion. There is no elite in Russia. That is, she was in the Russian Empire, but in 1917, after the Revolution, she somehow came out. And, the elites in the West, practically fell into a stupor. Previously, they were "friends", "fought" among themselves, but they always knew, "hu from hu". All of Europe, and not only, was enmeshed in family, financial ties. After the arrival of the Bolsheviks, everything was interrupted. In my opinion, the recognition of the USSR as "civilized countries" lasted and therefore so long. Further, "a clean place is never empty," and gradually a new elite began to form in the USSR. Which ended its existence in 1937. At the same time, JV Stalin, perhaps, with the help of his supporters (who came into the industry after the "Great Purge"), began to form the country's elite, but did not have time. War, post-war reconstruction, death. It is difficult to say about later times, but, apparently, everything remained at the level, "everything around is collective farm, everything around is mine." Finally, 1991 came. Yeltsin's coming to power. And, here, again, not a problem. The oligarchs began to form, who formed their own teams, which began to plunder the country. And then they would have robbed and taken out wealth abroad. But, "Putin and the team," led the country along a natural path, that is, they first formed the vertical of power, but then the Russian elite. Naturally, you cannot create it by a presidential decree. The process is spontaneous, evolutionary. From here, the races inside the country in different directions, and that mess, which we all do not like so much. I apologize for the verbosity, but somehow so.
      1. jogin
        jogin 30 November 2015 11: 17 New
        -3
        Quote: avva2012
        That is, a priori, the elite must exist (oligarchs, nothing to do with it, these are different things)

        The trouble with Russia is precisely that it lacks this very national elite. The Bolsheviks slaughtered. And in this sense, the statement that "the Bolsheviks destroyed Russia" is absolutely true. Therefore, it can exist today only in an authoritarian form, which does not require a national elite. A strong king is enough (supreme shaman, leader, president, etc; the title of the position can be any). Either so, or not at all. Here is such a poor choice after the acts of the Bolsheviks.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 30 November 2015 11: 53 New
          +1
          Before the Bolsheviks, there was still the Great French Revolution. It was about the same thing. And, how many years did it go there before everything settled down?
          I do not blame the Bolsheviks for anything. The elite was still there, once the country had profiled, and it itself had suicidal. There they are and the road, under the crunch of French rolls.
          1. jogin
            jogin 30 November 2015 12: 12 New
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            Quote: avva2012
            There they are and the road, under the crunch of French rolls.

            By itself, it may be a road. But Russia does not have another and will not, because the elite is a centuries-old thing. So, with her future, everything is complicated. And very foggy. And disturbing.
            Quote: avva2012
            Before the Bolsheviks, there was still the Great French Revolution. It was about the same thing.

            You confuse the bourgeois revolution with a change in the form of government within the framework of one (feudal) OEF. The total is the same as that of the male penis and finger. Those. nothing in common.
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 30 November 2015 12: 40 New
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              The form of government was replaced with almost complete destruction of the old elite. The difference was that in France, by the time of the revolution, a new elite had already been formed. We just cut the old one. Ah, the comparison is not correct. You need to be more polite, comrade, maybe get out of the minuses.
              1. jogin
                jogin 30 November 2015 13: 30 New
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                Quote: avva2012
                The form of government was replaced with almost complete destruction of the old elite.

                If you are about January 1918, then there was not just the destruction of the old elite. Then one form of government was replaced by another. There was still a counter-revolutionary coup. And the country, only in February 1917. tried to move from the feudal phase to the capitalist, was thrown back to feudalism, in the Middle Ages. A little later, during the Civil War, the national elite was also destroyed, mentally ready to build a bourgeois society. Those. Russia was simply completely torn to pieces by the Bolsheviks. Not only that, they again dragged her (Russia) into feudalism. They also destroyed the country's advanced elite. Except as genocide, such things cannot be called.
                As for the comparison of Bolshevism-socialism with the monarchy, here the form of government has not changed much. All the same feudalism, but with a slightly different sauce. Simply put, the same eggs, but only in profile. More noise from the Bolsheviks from nothing.
                Quote: avva2012
                The difference was that in France, by the time of the revolution, a new elite had already been formed. We just cut the old

                There is no old and new elite. She is one. And brought up for centuries. And, or she is, or she is not. If it is, then the country has a well-defined future. If it is not, then everything is more complicated. See above for an authoritarian form of government.
                Quote: avva2012
                You need to be more polite, comrade, maybe get out of the minuses.

                Why do I need this? It’s a star to me. It is much more important to write scoops, as it really was. And then they really do not know. And HZ believes that, based on what a cunning lecturer on political information once told them.
                1. avva2012
                  avva2012 30 November 2015 15: 13 New
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                  Why do I need this? It’s a star to me. It is much more important to write scoops, as it really was. .
                  I read your first post, I wanted to answer. I read what is highlighted above, I got sick. "Scoops", as you put it, are my ancestors, and, I, the same scoop. It seems to me, with such views, you are on the wrong site. There are resources on ukr., There you will be understood and appreciated. Farewell.
                  1. jogin
                    jogin 30 November 2015 18: 43 New
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                    Quote: avva2012
                    "Scoops", as you put it, are my ancestors

                    My condolences. Ancestors are not chosen.
                    Quote: avva2012
                    Yes, and I, the same scoop.

                    Would be ashamed, or something. This is not a cause for pride.
                    Quote: avva2012
                    It seems to me that with such views, you, not on that site, got to. There are resources on ukr. There they will understand and appreciate you.

                    Are you hinting that there are no decent people in Russia? You are mistaken. Most of them are in Russia.
                    And you, if you want to be held captive by the dense communist dogmas, then no one bothers you. Stay. Only then do not say that they did not try to help you. They didn’t try to tell the truth.
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