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HSE concerns formula: "Either" Calibers "or education and medicine"

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You can leave the HSE, but the HSE never leaves you.


This is one of the mottos of the National Research University Higher School of Economics - one of those universities that emerged after the collapse of the Soviet Union. 27 November HSE celebrated its 23 birthday. Noted, of course, recalling the founding father Egor Gaidar, who signed the government decree on the creation of the Higher School of Economics in November 1992.

Through 4 of the year (1996), after its creation, the institution received the status of a state university, and through 12 this status increased to the level of a Research University subordinated to the government of the Russian Federation.

At the present moment, the senior management of HSE is as follows:

scientific director - President of the Foundation "Liberal Mission", pre-default Minister of Economy of the Russian Federation Yevgeny Yasin;

HSE concerns formula: "Either" Calibers "or education and medicine"


university rector - a member of the economic councils under the government and the president of the Russian Federation, deputy of the Moscow City Duma, one of the co-authors of the idea of ​​enrollment to the university on the basis of the Unified State Exam indicators, editor-in-chief of the Issues of Education magazine, part-time husband of the Central Bank head Elvira Nabiullina Yaroslav Kuzminov;

President of HSE - ex-deputy chairman of the State Duma, former deputy chairman of the government of the Russian Federation, former minister of economy of the Russian Federation, member of the bureau of the supreme council of United Russia, president of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, doctor of economic sciences Alexander Shokhin.

As you can see, the managerial mix is ​​truly impressive - from the leadership of non-profit NGOs-foreign agents to people involved in the “development” of education through its bombardment of the USE and the system of attracting foreign specialists to the training of Russian teachers. From liberal missionaries and pre-default ministers to members of the council under the president and the government, with a membership card of a member of United Russia.
Some kind of amazing fusion ... Something from the incredible series of "Red Black Hundreds" or much more likely "anti-state statesmen"?

A few weeks before the celebration of the university’s next birthday, the rector of the Higher School of Economics, mentioned by Mr. Kuzminov, thinking about the difficult economic situation, said: all recent events will entail negative changes in the Russian economy and budget structure. AT RBC A report was published, the authorship of which belongs to the rector of the university and several of his colleagues. The submission states that low oil prices and effective anti-Russian sanctions are the main macroeconomic problem of building a federal budget, and that the state apparatus increases spending on the defense industry, while trying to carry unpopular reforms, including raising the retirement age, for later. Further, launches of Calibr missiles are suddenly mentioned, which, as it were, do not give the state the necessary amount to finance education and health care ...

Interestingly, specialists of the Higher School of Economics speak about such a combination. Their track record rests on serving the interests of investors of the Liberal Mission, or in managing the country's economy in such a way that it has already once gone down to the level of default, to the level of "no rockets, no education. "

Of course, reducing the level of funding for education and health can hit the country's defense, but why in the HSE immediately recall the “Gauges” and the defense component of the country as a whole? It turns out that the faculty, the army of advisers from the leading (as he says about himself) economic institution of the country, which is also under the jurisdiction of the Russian government, are not able to offer state institutions any other approach to finding a balance in budget expenditures except for the formula reduce funding for the defense industry, so as not to reduce funding for education and medicine? Like, if you stop “scattering” cruise missiles, then with education and medicine, we will immediately have everything “about kai” ... Apparently, other resources to balance in the expenditure side of the budget, apart from the need to step on the defense industry’s throat, the country's leading economists do not find condition. Sadly ...

And, by the way, why at one time, when the current scholars from the HSE leadership were directly at the helm of the state, did Russia actually have no defense industry, no army, no social sphere? Why (in a strange way ...) exactly the mechanism that allowed to bring truly astronomical capital out of its richest country, including the mechanism of barbarous privatization, was implemented? But the implementation of the very mechanisms involved people today declaring that the economic model of modern Russia needs to be urgently reformed. Of course, it needs to be reformed, but that’s why it’s solely due to a reduction in spending on the state’s defense potential in modern, to put it mildly, conditions far from cloudless for the country's security. One doesn’t give rest to the status of ZATO - they offer to remove additional financing, together with the security component, others are sharply agitated by the “Gauge” ...

Justifying its failure (although why failure; perhaps for someone it was an achievement - fulfilling the very liberal mission) 90's, economists at the HSE say that, they say, we were not allowed to finish the reforms ... They say time was lost , it was necessary to provide an opportunity to bring the work to completion.

Yevgeny Yasin:
The time that has passed without urgent reforms can be considered lost.


Oleg Zamulin (Dean of the Faculty of Economics, HSE):
I am afraid that as soon as the next reforms really begin, resistance will immediately begin, and as a result, they will not be brought to the end again and will be distorted in essence.


In general, the reforms, it turns out, were distorted, professional economists were tied up by the people who did not understand, whose representatives in the country in general, according to some professional economists, became too much per one “understanding expert”. That is why, they say, it is necessary to choose between education and “Caliber” ... It would not have been tied up by the “professionals”, everything would have been much simpler: neither medicine nor Caliber, in addition terrorist activity from the North Caucasus to Moscow ...

But there would be more "correct" works of HSE staff! Works that should be conducted by the state and society along the line that will definitely give the country "every chance".

One such work came as the lead scientist of the International Center stories and the sociology of the Second World War and its consequences at HSE of the historian Oleg Khlevnyuk.



If there is interest, the reader may suggest which topic the work was devoted to. One clue: for him the Doctor of Historical Sciences Khlevnyuk received the “Enlightener” award established by the notorious Dynasty Foundation (in May 2015 was included in the list of non-profit NGOs, and in July, just decided to change the sign to try to avoid having to be considered NGOs acting as foreign agents).

Answer: Mr. Khlevnyuk's work is dedicated, well, of course, to the “bloody Stalinist gebna” ... And what else could a book be given to which the prize is given on behalf of the NGO foreign agent? Well, not about the industrialization and the victory of the Soviet people over fascism ...

Khlevnyuk about the book (material taken from HSE official site):
I followed the documents, and therefore could not please everyone.

People want to believe that terror is able to defeat corruption and revive social justice. Even some (fortunately, few) historians play up to these sentiments. They reanimate the old “revisionist” schemes about the “weak dictator”, about the spontaneous terror unleashed by the self-serving party bonzes, to which the leader had only some relation.

All this is completely untrue. To understand what happened in the USSR in 1920-50-s, it is important to realize: Stalin was more than a strong dictator. He led the terror, signing plans for arrests and executions of people in each region. He encouraged, but at the same time controlled the process of over-fulfillment of these plans, contributing to the incredible unwinding of the flywheel of repression.


In general, as you can see, the cost of a million first edition of the "Stalinist clawed hand" on behalf of all sorts of "liberal missions" and "dynasties", as well as direct contacts with them, for the university, which is administered by the government, look more priority and information more significant than real work on the development of the financial and economic system of a huge state, the vital necessity for which is to build both the social sphere and the security system.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 30 November 2015 06: 28 New
    82
    If you dig around, I won’t be surprised that Soros is still the main sponsor and customer of this office! The stuck friend of all "progressively minded financiers and young democracies"! laughing
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 30 November 2015 06: 33 New
      52
      It is not excluded.
      No matter how much the CPSU, the USSR and the education system were blamed, but compared with the liberals' attempts to adjust everything for themselves, the education system of values ​​in the USSR was more humane.
      1. Throw
        Throw 30 November 2015 06: 39 New
        56
        In the USSR there was a system aimed at creation. And above all, personality.

        And the "lice" do not create anything except the curves of economic opuses, the collapse of the economy and values.
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 30 November 2015 08: 46 New
          32
          Quote: Lance
          In the USSR there was a system aimed at creation. And above all, personality.

          And the "lice" do not create anything except the curves of economic opuses, the collapse of the economy and values.

          I talked a lot with HSE graduates. After graduating in economics, they don’t know what the correlation coefficient is. Those. according to the formula from the textbook, they can count something like a monkey. But to explain to him why it is impossible to calculate the correlation by two points is impossible.
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 30 November 2015 10: 37 New
            +9
            Vespiary! In which the current "our" "managers" are multiplying! Look at how many lice graduates are in state administration, and there are a lot of them in the "shadow" positions - Deputies, advisers, consultants! Is it not suspicious! AND?

            PS: An article is a check of public opinion on this site, moreover, possibly by “THEIR” analysts! (Wow, this was a compromise ...) Whose site? Not a word about the creators, all names are fictitious! Even the first in the list of admins - FANTAST! All media can find the names of the founders, CEOs, editors, etc.!
            Perhaps even the admins don’t know from whom they get the money! But, ignorance, as it is basking, does not liberate!
            1. Dryuya2
              Dryuya2 30 November 2015 12: 39 New
              11
              Quote: Finches
              The main sponsor and customer of this office is still Soros! The modest friend of all "progressively minded financiers and young democracies"

              Soros Foundation crying crying
              11: 21 30 November 2015
              http://lifenews.ru/news/172574
              recognized in Russia as undesirable
              The Prosecutor General’s Office believes that it threatens the constitutional system and security of the Russian Federation. -

              The Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation reported that the Assistance Foundation and the Open Society Foundation were found undesirable in Russia. The latter is also called the Soros Foundation.
              “This decision was made in connection with the appeal of the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation to the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation and the Minister of Justice of the Russian Federation on the verification of organizations included in the so-called patriotic stop list,” Interfax quotes the words of the spokesman for the RF GP Marina Gridneva.

              - It was established that the activities of the Open Society Foundations and the Open Society Institute. The OSI Assistance Foundation poses a threat to the foundations of the constitutional system of the Russian Federation and state security, she said.
              The Prosecutor General's Office sent information about its decision to the Ministry of Justice, so that the two organizations are officially included in the list of undesirables in the Russian Federation.
              George Soros is a world famous American financier. He created a network of charitable organizations known as the Soros Foundation. Through them, the creation of the so-called open society is promoted and promoted.
              1. Abrekkos
                Abrekkos 30 November 2015 14: 01 New
                +1
                What can I say. Srarusa is sorry.

                We must also share something with Ukraine.
                Thanks already helped us ... no longer needed. Taught us ...
                1. Marxist
                  Marxist 30 November 2015 17: 01 New
                  +4
                  “Either Caliber, or education and medicine”

                  Better like this: "Either HSE, or education and medicine."
              2. Gardener91
                Gardener91 30 November 2015 20: 20 New
                +3
                Batsk Lukashenko Soress specifically sent back in the 90s, and we only began to see clearly?
            2. Volodin
              30 November 2015 12: 51 New
              +4
              Quote: Baikonur
              Article-verification of public opinion on this site, and, perhaps, "their" analysts! (Wow, this is a compro issued ...) Whose site? About the creators not a word, all names are fictional! Even the first in the list of admins - FANTAST! All media can find the names of the founders, CEOs, editors, etc.!


              I woke up ... Thoughts about whose site did not prevent a person from earning a “marshal’s” rating, and then suddenly needed “names, passwords, turnouts”.

              Quote: Baikonur
              But, ignorance, as grit, does not free!


              "Ignorance" of what? And "does not release," I'm sorry, from what? Or you personally created and financed “VO”, keep a website at your own expense in order to demand accountability.

              Yes, and about "from whom the money is received." If you are a regular visitor of the site, you could not read several articles on this topic. The only income of the site is advertising on it, so you can be calm about analysts and other ridiculous conspiracy theories. If something does not suit - subscriber to "Murzilka", there they will explain everything to you - for what age, who, where and from where.
              1. Baikonur
                Baikonur 30 November 2015 13: 28 New
                -2
                Quote: Volodin
                I woke up ... Thoughts about whose site didn’t stop a person from earning a “marshal's” rating, but then he suddenly needed “names, passwords, appearances”
                Awoke! Hmm, my thoughts earned a “Marshall’s rating” among the Sait community (by the way, this is an indicator! Although there are a lot of vultures, this is usually)
                and then suddenly "names, passwords, appearances" were needed

                Yes, needed! because they began to torment vague doubts!
                What is wrong with the fact that ALL famous media are known for their founders, directors, editors, etc.? But here - no! What crazy, childish sarcasm - names, passwords, appearances? This suggests some kind of "cryptographers"! What? Not this way?
                "Ignorance" of what? And "does not release," I'm sorry, from what? Or you personally created and financed “VO”, keep a website at your own expense in order to demand accountability.
                Ignorance of the laws does not exempt from liability (for those who do not know!), I.e. if you take money without asking from whom to transfer the package, without asking what is inside (And there, for example - a bomb!), then you can’t just say: “I didn’t know, I didn’t ask, they paid me, I agreed that is there such a?
                And I do not demand reporting, but PERSONS. As everywhere accepted by law! The consumer must know from whom and what is buying, and the seller must be called!
                If you are a regular visitor to the site, then you could not fail to read several articles on this topic.
                I have been here since May 2015. and absolutely no one, nor I, can study all the articles! And, moreover, all the comments! What a childish babble (In the spirit - "Sam-du.rak!)
                The only income of the site is advertising on it, so you can be calm about the "THEM" of analysts and other ridiculous conspiracy theories.
                Well it is in general!
                Advertising revenue doesn’t mean at all that website is used for “analysts” (they have their own income!)
                Murzilka subscriber
                .......! hi
                1. Volodin
                  30 November 2015 13: 52 New
                  +9
                  Quote: Baikonur
                  Yes, needed! because they began to torment vague doubts!


                  In order not to be tormented, I will reveal to you a terrible secret: "Military Review" is funded by a shadow world government, including the entire US State Department, MI6 and John McCain personally. And articles are published only after they have been checked by the Supreme Council of the Higher School of Economics National Research University, Mossad and a network of NGOs-foreign agents. Agent data about the readers is immediately transmitted for processing to the SBU by unmarked postal pigeons.

                  But seriously, at the bottom there is information about the registration certificate "IN" in Roskomnadzor, according to which in this department you can specify any information of interest to you.
                  1. Baikonur
                    Baikonur 30 November 2015 14: 00 New
                    -3
                    The joke is good, funny! Sarcasm, understandable, counted!
                    But I'm not talking about that!
                    I’m saying that even you can’t know who uses similar, public sites for analytics!

                    P.S .: saying
                    those. if you take money without asking from whom to transfer the package, without asking what is inside (And there, for example - a bomb!), then you can’t just say: “I didn’t know, I didn’t ask, they paid me, I agreed that is there such a?
                    I specifically didn’t mean you, but in general!
                    Do not take on your own account, do not be offended!
                    With respect! hi
                    1. Volodin
                      30 November 2015 14: 22 New
                      +2
                      So, I misunderstood you, thinking that, in your opinion, the articles on our site are “ordered” by THEIR “analysts” and generally by some mysterious forces.

                      In general, drove. smile
                      1. Baikonur
                        Baikonur 30 November 2015 15: 02 New
                        -1
                        Thank you for understanding!
                        All the best!
                        Sait really like! fast, a lot of material, opinion! strongly involved! My wife has been grumbling for a long time: I'm sick of it! laughing

                        PS: I remember that they argued about the Egyptian Al-Sisi, I didn’t put it right on the campaign either! But I hope you understand!
            3. Tambov Wolf
              Tambov Wolf 30 November 2015 13: 52 New
              +6
              Let them check it. My opinion is to sentence the entire HSE to the tower without trial and investigation for the collapse of the country. Who has not yet managed to prove himself in this field to give ten to twenty years in prison for retraining.
              1. tank64rus
                tank64rus 30 November 2015 15: 14 New
                +4
                I agree. It seems that we think that we have a short memory. I will never forget my despair when FIVE MONTHS did not pay the salary and eyes of the wife and children. These creatures in Kolyma and in prison for treason. If they are cool "economists", associate professors with doctors, then why is our economy in recession, and with the "damned commies" it grew.
                1. mark2
                  mark2 30 November 2015 16: 57 New
                  +2
                  Hey, so we have the whole Duma of candidates for the same pseudoscience) And what's the point? And in the government? There are even more. where you spit on at least the financier will get.
                2. Alf
                  Alf 30 November 2015 18: 55 New
                  +1
                  Quote: tank64rus
                  If they’re cool "economists" docents with doctors, then why do we have an economy in recession,

                  Because
                  Oleg Zamulin (Dean of the Faculty of Economics, HSE):
                  I am afraid that as soon as the next reforms really begin, resistance will immediately begin, and as a result, they will not be brought to the end again and will be distorted in essence.

                  The malicious people simply did not allow them to complete the reforms.
                  P.S. I’m wondering, these pid ..., gun ... teachers really believe in what they say? Do they really believe that if they were then given the chance to steer to the end, would everything be great in the country?
              2. tank64rus
                tank64rus 30 November 2015 15: 14 New
                +1
                I agree. It seems that we think that we have a short memory. I will never forget my despair when FIVE MONTHS did not pay the salary and eyes of the wife and children. These creatures in Kolyma and in prison for treason. If they are cool "economists", associate professors with doctors, then why is our economy in recession, and with the "damned commies" it grew.
              3. mark2
                mark2 30 November 2015 17: 00 New
                0
                Comrade, Army General! Plus to you for constructive offers! Well, as a fellow countryman!)
            4. BMP-2
              BMP-2 30 November 2015 15: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: Baikonur
              Vespiary! In which the current "our" "managers" are multiplying! Look at how many lice graduates are in state administration, and there are a lot of them in the "shadow" positions - Deputies, advisers, consultants! Is it not suspicious! AND?


              Baikonur, you are a noble conspiracy theorist! My respect, I take off my hat! hi
        2. Skif83
          Skif83 30 November 2015 13: 53 New
          +2
          So the people at the helm were ... not even the current one, the interests of the state were the main priority!
          And here ...
          the aforementioned Mr. Kuzminov, reflecting on the difficult economic situation, said: all recent events will entail negative changes in the Russian economy and budget structure
          .
          In my opinion, they are thinking about two things, how to get rich at the expense of the state and how to spoil ...
          You need to clean all these "economists."
          Under Stalin, the country was twice raised from ruins, in a shorter time and under much more difficult conditions.
          And this mold almost thirty years destroys everything to which it has access.
          1. syndicalist
            syndicalist 1 December 2015 10: 34 New
            0
            Quote: Skif83
            And this mold almost thirty years destroys everything to which it has access.

            Of these, 15 under the leadership of Putin
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 30 November 2015 06: 53 New
        15
        Quote: ImPerts
        the system of education of values ​​in the USSR was more humane.


        I don’t know what about humanity, but it provided the economy and social services without rot and imbalance.
        Shame on a country in which the performance of state functions by government officials is called the provision of services and for this they are tearing money from the population, and this applies to ALL social networks, including housing and communal services.
        1. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 30 November 2015 10: 23 New
          -17
          It is in the USSR that there were no distortions in the economy and social programs? You apparently forgot the main problem of a planned economy - the shortage of consumer goods. Forgot empty shelves, probably don’t even remember the hour-long queues, a record for several years, what it means to “get hold” and “have connections”. And they never even heard that our country with its endless chernozems and a huge amount of agricultural machinery bought grain in Canada for the latest petrodollars. Do you think Gorbachev started perestroika from a good life, freedom and democracy, the party elite wanted? Yes, they just realized that at such a pace another five to ten years and in a country spending huge sums of money on an arms race, hunger riots would begin. Do you think the conversion was offered solely to ruin our defense industry? And how many times our native Soviet state threw our citizens through monetary reforms, lotteries and bonds of the state loan?
          1. nov_tech.vrn
            nov_tech.vrn 30 November 2015 11: 53 New
            11
            it’s boring to read you, there are already materials on all issues, and about the hunch building and about the great economists such as Yasin or the Gobachev adviser Aganberyan Abel Gezevich mentioned in the article, there is no need to retell, fakes wandering from the filing of the authors of the collapse of the USSR, just read including the recently discussed here are the materials. For my part, I can say that I somehow ended up at a meeting at which representatives of the future "democratic" team spoke about their ideas in reforming the economy, and all the specific issues, these ministers and deputies of the RSFSR, with then The USSR, did not give an answer, the ensuing collapse of the economy showed that ordinary business executives and economists were right, and not the gurus from the students of Aganberyan and others. Especially now I was pinned by fairy tales about the hunger riots performed by Gaidar and his team, the human brain cannot burp and the reliability of the information must be determined in advance.
            1. Nikolay K
              Nikolay K 30 November 2015 18: 20 New
              -3
              I do not retell fakes, I myself lived in Soviet times, I have a memory. Where do you think your deposits with Sberbank and money on government bonds? Believe them Yeltsin pulled? No matter how, as they say, everything is already stolen before us. By the end of the 80's, the USSR was already bankrupt, having great domestic debt and bad external debts. Actually, it was the collapse of the USSR economy that led the United States to victory in the Cold War. Well, the last factor that achieved the USSR was the fall in world oil prices, apparently arranged not without the support of the United States. Of course, I understand that for you the USSR is a time of youth, and as a child, as you know, everything was better, but let's try to approach history objectively.
              1. IIIIvanov
                IIIIvanov 30 November 2015 18: 43 New
                +4
                I also lived in Soviet times. And I can not agree with you!
                And I remember very well that scams with the ruble began in the active phase of perestroika. But to consider this as a separate phenomenon will be a big mistake. And by the way, there was also a scam with government bonds then, look where Yasin was then and where Gavrilka Popov, Luzhkov, etc.
                I can recommend a book that explains something, the authorship of the former and only Minister of Press of Russia - Poltorak, "Power in TNT equivalent."
                This will help to comprehend individual facts and arrange them systematically.
                Sincerely.
              2. Alf
                Alf 30 November 2015 19: 16 New
                +3
                Quote: Nikolai K
                By the end of the 80s, the USSR was already bankrupt, having great domestic debt and bad external debts.

                Based on how well I know the history of the USSR, I decided to stop in 1980.
                The period from 1922 (the year the USSR was formed) to 1960 is not very convenient for comparison, since it is not correct to compare the budgets of countries, one of which only emerged from the civil war and began to introduce and develop socialism, and then became the epicenter of a global war, followed by restoration of their economy.
                The period from the mid-80s to the beginning of the 90s is also not very convenient for comparison, since the USSR was in an economic crisis.
                Similarly in the USA. The USA survived the global crisis before World War II. In addition, until the 40s, state budgets were more independent of the federal budget (infusions from the federal budget into state budgets later began). Also, somewhere from the 80s, the US government debt began to increase, with each year the budget deficit became larger.
                I chose 1980, because this year seemed to me rather stable. In addition, the US dollar was quite low against the Soviet ruble: 1 US dollar = 0,6395 Russian rubles.
                or: 1 ruble of the USSR = 1,5637 US dollars.


                So,
                The revenue part of the State budget of the USSR (that is, including republican budgets, budgets of autonomies, regions, cities, districts, etc.) in 1980 - 302,7 billion Soviet rubles or (approx. 473,3 US dollars)
                The revenue portion of the US federal budget (excluding state and local budgets) is 517,1 billion US dollars (approx. 330,7 billion Soviet rubles).
                The difference is - 28 billion rubles or 43,8 billion US dollars.
                Thus, the USSR state budget (revenues) was lower than the US federal budget by about 8,5%.
                BUT, the United States had a federal budget deficit of $ 73,8 billion. In the USSR, on the contrary, budget revenues exceeded expenditures by 8,1 billion rubles ($ 12,7 billion).
                In addition, attention should be paid to the size of government debts of the USSR and the USA in 1980. The USSR had government debt of $ 20,5 billion, and the United States - $ 909 billion.
                I remind you that the US federal budget is approximately 2/3 of the US state budget.
                All data is taken from the following sources:
                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D1
                %82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B3_%D0%A1%D0%A8%D0
                90%
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          2. ver_
            ver_ 30 November 2015 13: 37 New
            +8
            ... do not forget that Russia "pulled" another 14 republics on its hump, supported the socialist countries. the camps (otherwise it was impossible) spent enormous resources on the "shield", while ahead of the rest in the field of nuclear energy ... As for Gaidar's condom, he said that there was nothing wrong with the fact that many pensioners would die as a result of his reforms. This cattle is liberal --- Not an accountant is building an economy, but an engineer ... Forecasts of accountants - floor - ceiling ...
            1. ver_
              ver_ 30 November 2015 13: 57 New
              +1
              ... strange - when I write a negative about the liberal Gaidar, either the switch point is transferred to the Claudia claudia, or the writing is removed ...
              1. BMP-2
                BMP-2 30 November 2015 15: 28 New
                +2
                Quote: ver_
                ... strange - when I write a negative about the liberal Gaidar, either the switch point is transferred to the Claudia claudia, or the writing is removed ...


                Well, after all, no one knows what else is wired in the Windows program code! laughing
                Write with sarcasm - they will understand you! yes
          3. Alf
            Alf 30 November 2015 19: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: Nikolai K
            And they never even heard that our country with its endless chernozems and a huge amount of agricultural machinery bought grain in Canada for the latest petrodollars.

            Ask the horsetail about this. Let him tell you about the virgin soil, about the harvest, which there was no place to store, about how the Stalinist multistructure economy was destroyed by this dung beetle, about the Novocherkassk riot.
            Quote: Nikolai K
            freedom and democracy wanted the party elite

            The top finally wanted complete independence from the country.
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Yes, they just realized that at such a pace another five to ten years and in a country spending huge sums of money on an arms race, hunger riots would begin.

            And after the rebuilding of the riots, of course, there wasn’t.
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Do you think the conversion was offered solely to ruin our defense industry?

            Can you name another reason for the conversion? All enterprises that produce only the military commissariat have quietly died or are near death, and consumer goods that, in your opinion, they should have produced, for some reason did not appear.
            Quote: Nikolai K
            And how many times our native Soviet state threw our citizens through monetary reforms, lotteries and bonds of the state loan?

            Whom did it throw? Specifically, please. In my family, the government bought back bonds of the 1951-54 issue of the years in 82-83 years.
            Quote: Nikolai K
            It is in the USSR that there were no distortions in the economy and social programs? You apparently forgot the main problem of a planned economy - the shortage of consumer goods

            Take an interest in the "reforms" carried out from 1954 to 1962.
          4. gunya
            gunya 30 November 2015 19: 42 New
            +1
            It is in the USSR that there were no distortions in the economy and social programs? You apparently forgot the main problem of a planned economy - the shortage of consumer goods. Forgot empty shelves, probably don’t even remember the hour-long queues, a record for several years, what it means to “get hold” and “have connections”. And they never even heard that our country with its endless chernozems and a huge amount of agricultural machinery bought grain in Canada for the latest petrodollars. Do you think Gorbachev started perestroika from a good life, freedom and democracy, the party elite wanted? Yes, they just realized that at such a pace another five to ten years and in a country spending huge sums of money on an arms race, hunger riots would begin. Do you think the conversion was offered solely to ruin our defense industry?


            Words alone, apparently the author found only "the time of the hunchback."
            It would be better to take an interest in the post-war recovery period and what was planned next.

            Failing is always easier, at least for yourself you need reasons to know.
          5. badens1111
            badens1111 3 August 2017 08: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: Nikolai K
            And how many times our native Soviet state threw our citizens through monetary reforms, lotteries and bonds of the state loan?

            You are defending the HSE by writing a bunch of phrases and all of the 90 smelling of mothballs.
            Yesterday in the OTR channel broadcast, Right! Yes? |, a representative of the HSE L. Polyakov spoke out, sorry to shake his beard, flashing his pince-nez and to the question, when did you lie at your rallies that everything was bad in the country, WERE YOU TOLD people that you were scrapping the social system? Answer, NO. then lie and now.
            The second representative of your handful of vraleits, Gozman, he generally carried something in his own style, getting confused in the testimonies and carrying any crap in conclusions and suggestions.
            The third, Chubais’s brother-in-law ... well, this one, howling about the fact that he had lost something somewhere, looked like an openly miserable and out-of-mind old man, silly and untidy.
            Do you offer all this motley audience to believe today, when all their ideas, all their affairs, showed themselves exclusively from the negative and black side?
            You are boring, a little boring, you are clearly already what society absolutely no longer needs.
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      3. BMP-2
        BMP-2 30 November 2015 15: 15 New
        +6
        A country of contrasts: the HSE economic science is developing, the country's economy is falling! Maybe you still need to fix something at the conservatory ??? winked yes
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 30 November 2015 06: 41 New
      32
      23 years of undermining and collapse of sovereignty, 23 years of sabotage and sabotage in the economy, 23 years of creating conditions for the surrender of Russia to the West - isn't it a lot of patience among the population to continue to observe from the side of the fifth column?
      Is Putin taking too long to choose the path to recovery, watching liberal liberals plunder Russia?
      What else should the liberals do to be at least expelled from the country?
      There is no answer from Putin ...
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 30 November 2015 08: 23 New
        23
        Quote: hydrox
        What else should the liberals do to be at least expelled from the country?
        There is no answer from Putin ...

        It seems Putin himself is a liberal to the bone! The economic bloc of our government has always been extremely liberal under Putin! Chubais and Serdyukovs feel great. And finally, Putin opens the huge and chic Yeltsin Center! For whom??? Yeltsin is a traitor, the hero of whose novel is being asked ?!
        details:
        http://www.obltv.ru/news/society/itogi-nedeli-otkrytie-eltsin-tsentra-v-ekaterin
        burge /

        [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy92dgi3U6E [/ img]
        1. anip
          anip 30 November 2015 09: 15 New
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          Quote: Stas157
          It seems Putin himself is a liberal to the bone!

          Seem to be??? But when, finally, will it reach everyone that does not seem to be, but is it? And this is despite the fact that Putin himself has repeatedly said this.
        2. oracul
          oracul 30 November 2015 09: 24 New
          +9
          Yes, actually, GDP itself does not hide it. I don’t know who and when laid this idea to him, but the fact that he suffers such individuals in his environment is a fact. And the fact that Yasin, the creator of the HSE, as a bastion of liberalism and its ideological center for the fifth column in Russia is also a fact. All would be God be with him, if not for one BUT - the liberal management style leads to bankruptcy. What about Yeltsin? What to do - apparently these are the personal ideas of Putin V.V. about decency: saved Sobchak, did not touch his wife and daughter. Although I do not agree, it is his right. Another thing is important - the good of Russia.
        3. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 30 November 2015 10: 30 New
          -14
          The power of liberals in our government ended by the mid-90's. Of the last top officials, perhaps Kudrin can be called a liberal. Under Putin, the economy is ruled by "statesmen" like Zubkov, Primakov and Sechin, and economists are service personnel whose opinions mean little. The problem of the current economy is precisely in the excessive statehood, bureaucratization and corruption
          1. gjv
            gjv 30 November 2015 11: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Nikolai K
            Under Putin, the economy is ruled by "statesmen" like Zubkov, Primakov and Sechin, and economists are service personnel whose opinions mean little. The problem of the current economy is precisely in the excessive statehood, bureaucratization and corruption

            Problem statement and problem. repeat One in the other. yes fellow
          2. Alf
            Alf 30 November 2015 19: 26 New
            +3
            Quote: Nikolai K
            The problem of the current economy is precisely in the excessive statehood, bureaucratization and corruption

            Interestingly, under what president did the number of officials increase?
            As Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Sobyanin said earlier, there are 10 civil servants per 172 thousand people in Russia. That is, for every 58 Russians they feed one official. If we recalculate these figures for the size of the country's population, it turns out that now in Russia there are about 2,4 million officials per 140 million people. In the Soviet Union, where they also tried to fight the bureaucracy, the number of officials did not exceed 400 thousand per 300 million of the country's population. That is, over the years of the existence of "free Russia" the number of bureaucrats has grown 6 times.
            Although the administrative reform of the beginning of the century was designed to reduce the bureaucratic apparatus by combining a number of ministries into one department, so many federal agencies appeared to replace them that the total number of officials in the country only increased. And now some ministries, for example, the Ministry of Industry and Energy, are again divided, that is, they have been restored to their original form.
            Moreover, as Sobyanin noted, from the beginning of the new millennium, the costs of maintaining officials have been growing from year to year. According to him, budget expenditures for the maintenance of the state apparatus have increased significantly in recent years, in particular, expenditures on public administration - by almost 30%. Moreover, part of the costs significantly exceeded those standards that were established in the budget.
            As a result, according to FBK, budget expenditures under state administration at the federal level increased by 16,4%, to 131,5 billion rubles. The budgetary expenses for the functioning of the presidential apparatus increased by 22%, to 3,65 billion rubles, for the maintenance of the government apparatus - by 37,9%, to 1,4 billion rubles, of the judiciary - by 17,8%, to 4,1 billion rubles. The Ministry of Finance explained the increase in the cost of maintaining officials that last fall, their salaries were indexed by 9%, as well as an increase in foreign currency payments to embassy employees - after all, the dollar and the euro rose in price due to the devaluation of the ruble.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 30 November 2015 20: 51 New
              -5
              about officials and the ratio of the USSR / RF.
              do not forget that the USSR did not have:
              -taxes
              Socialist
              health insurance
              business
              - and much more.
              Everything was regulated by directives, and in the case of fantasies of individual individuals, they were not visited by an official, but by a man with a warm heart and a cold head.
              So I’m not ready to say, a lot of officials are a blessing or a tragedy. Making documents for the site and the car, I came to the personal conclusion that the number of attendants still makes life easier, and not complicates. Well, I don’t feel like standing by the number of the car for 16 hours in the queue.
          3. Assistant
            Assistant 30 November 2015 23: 44 New
            0
            The power of liberals in our government ended by the mid-90s. ... Under Putin, the economy is ruled by "statesmen" like Zubkov, Primakov and Sechin ...


            Og, and the wallet of the great stateswoman Nabiullina.
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      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 30 November 2015 09: 41 New
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        Quote: hydrox
        What else should the liberals do to be at least expelled from the country?

        Immerse on a barge, like the Bolsheviks at one time. Only not to send to France, as then, but to the White Sea. And there to open kingstones ...

        Because the Soviet government lasted so much and reached so much that the ship sent to France. And it collapsed - because to France. It was necessary to drown. The grandchildren of those liberal liberals left her buried. And the grandson of a great children's writer, a merry peasant, a lover and lover of women and a feast — their brains were beaten to the point that the head of the Pravda newspaper department and the editor of the Kommunist magazine allowed the country to be plundered, for which his grandfather died, his father served her, and she gave him everything that he had in life.

        To the barge and to the White Sea ...
        1. mark2
          mark2 30 November 2015 17: 05 New
          +2
          And a torpedo? smile
          1. Throw
            Throw 30 November 2015 22: 23 New
            0
            Rusty German mine. I feel sorry for the torpedo, it costs how much tweezers.
      3. user
        user 30 November 2015 12: 07 New
        +1
        million dollars first edition of the “Stalinist clawed hand” on behalf of all kinds of “liberal missions” and “dynasties”


        It’s interesting, but whose expenses are it really due to budget financing again?
        1. Alf
          Alf 30 November 2015 19: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: user
          It’s interesting, but whose expenses are it really due to budget financing again?

          No, due to the salary of HSE members. (Sarcasm)
      4. ver_
        ver_ 30 November 2015 14: 05 New
        0
        ... "only fools beat on the forehead, and even then with a fright .." - Army General Rybalko ... one must prepare well and on soft paws (like a cat) approach the right moment ...
      5. Alf
        Alf 30 November 2015 19: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: hydrox
        There is no answer from Putin ...

        Why is there no answer" ? Very clearly, Russian on white, for the whole country, the wisest declared-There will be no mobilization of the economy, liberalization of the economy will continue.
        In my opinion, everything is extremely clear.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 06: 44 New
      +8
      HSE concerns formula: "Either" Calibers "or education and medicine"
      Are there any other options? what is it possible, and this and that?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 30 November 2015 06: 56 New
        +8
        [quote = andrey yurevich] [/ quote] and still have options? what is it possible, and this and that? [/ quote]

        It is possible, only for this it is necessary to annihilate all liberals in power
        1. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 30 November 2015 08: 06 New
          -11
          And then what will happen? Or, according to the old habit, we annihilate first, destroy it in Russian, and then we'll see?
        2. anip
          anip 30 November 2015 09: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: hydrox
          It is possible, only for this it is necessary to annihilate all liberals in power

          Who will do this? The most important liberal?
        3. avdkrd
          avdkrd 30 November 2015 10: 39 New
          0
          HSE is also an adversary and there is an opinion that it is better to keep the enemy closer to you, moreover In one place. At least for liberals of all stripes of the HSE like the light of a lantern, and it’s more understandable for us where those who live in power cannot even be allowed.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 30 November 2015 07: 46 New
        23
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Are there any other options? is it possible, and this and that?

        Yes, put any Vsevts to steer and then we will have neither calibers, nor education, nor medicine.
        1. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 30 November 2015 08: 13 New
          -5
          You are right, if economists will rule the country, then from their point of view, calibers are money wasted. And if the military rule, they will not count money on calibers at all. So, let everyone do their own thing: the military thinks how best to protect the country, and economists: how to earn more money for the country. And together, both will seek a balance of interests.
          1. gjv
            gjv 30 November 2015 11: 32 New
            11
            Quote: Nikolai K
            So, let everyone do their own thing: the military thinks how best to protect the country, and economists: how to earn more money for the country. And together, both will seek a balance of interests.

            These "economists", unfortunately, do not think how more money earn in the country and for the country, but they come up with how to steal more in the country and withdraw / export from the country. The balance of interests may be found by those who abruptly beat off these playful economists with playful raking pens.
            And the authors of federal law No. 275 “On the state defense order” would need to jam buckets on the Bosko and knock on as they should. These not only plunder, but also prevent normal people from defending their homeland!
            And Yasin is a character for a criminal case on the collapse of enterprises of the domestic aviation industry! Aw, prosecutors ?! Aw, Investigative Committee ?!
          2. Belousov
            Belousov 30 November 2015 11: 41 New
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            Well then, at 41, there was no need to resist. But how many expenses were there for the war?!? And now they would live happily, whether they would ride Porsche and Mercedes and drink Bavarian beer. If, of course, we didn’t end our life in gas chambers. Anyone who talks about lowering defense spending in the current realities is definitely a traitor. The increase of course must be controlled, it must be justified, and the reduction is unacceptable.
            But the question is different - HSE citizens, but think of a better way to fill the budget. And then your fosterlings are now sad that in 2016. the stabilization fund will end and there will be no more opportunity to cut it and support costs. It turns out that HSE graduates for 23 years cannot figure out how to increase the budget revenues without selling state property (it tends to run out), but they can only saw and saw, critters ...
            Definitely, all on a barge, lock stronger, take to the White Sea and burn to hell. Led by the main liberals DAM, Nabiullina, Ulyukaev and others.
          3. Belousov
            Belousov 30 November 2015 11: 41 New
            0
            Well then, at 41, there was no need to resist. But how many expenses were there for the war?!? And now they would live happily, whether they would ride Porsche and Mercedes and drink Bavarian beer. If, of course, we didn’t end our life in gas chambers. Anyone who talks about lowering defense spending in the current realities is definitely a traitor. The increase of course must be controlled, it must be justified, and the reduction is unacceptable.
            But the question is different - HSE citizens, but think of a better way to fill the budget. And then your fosterlings are now sad that in 2016. the stabilization fund will end and there will be no more opportunity to cut it and support costs. It turns out that HSE graduates for 23 years cannot figure out how to increase the budget revenues without selling state property (it tends to run out), but they can only saw and saw, critters ...
            Definitely, all on a barge, lock stronger, take to the White Sea and burn to hell. Led by the main liberals DAM, Nabiullina, Ulyukaev and others.
          4. Alf
            Alf 30 November 2015 19: 31 New
            +2
            Quote: Nikolai K
            You are right, if economists will rule the country, then from their point of view, calibers are money wasted.

            If economists stop spending money on Caliber (which they just crave), then very soon they will cease to exist at all. This is about economists.
      3. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 30 November 2015 08: 02 New
        -15
        Well, in our country, each cook can rule the state, and there are no less couch economists than couch generals. So Volodin Alexei makes a brilliant logical assumption: if HSE economists cannot offer ways to increase military spending in the country without harming the social sphere, then these are bad economists. Well, he does not understand that money, like energy, does not appear out of nothing, and in order to drastically increase one budget item, one will have to cut another. And those who do not agree with his only true opinion are naturally liberalists, foreign agents and simply incompetent "experts."
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 30 November 2015 10: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Nikolai K
          if economists from the HSE cannot offer ways to increase military spending in the country without harming the social sphere, then these are bad economists.

          Nevertheless, they exist, and not in a vacuum, but in power structures, so this situation is considered commonplace
          1. Nikolay K
            Nikolay K 30 November 2015 11: 32 New
            -7
            Announce the entire list, please.
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        2. Alf
          Alf 30 November 2015 19: 33 New
          +3
          Quote: Nikolai K
          . Well, he does not understand that money, like energy, does not appear out of nothing, and in order to drastically increase one budget item, one will have to cut another.

          For example, put an end to the export of money from the country and investing income in the enemy country.
        3. badens1111
          badens1111 3 August 2017 08: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: Nikolai K
          Well, with us, every cook can rule the state, and

          It seems that these are just such dropouts from cooks, and have ruled the country since 1992.
          Classical phrases about a cook sounds differently and there are words-ITS TEACH.
          You have not been taught anything.
      4. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 30 November 2015 09: 12 New
        +8
        Only one option suggests itself - the liquidation of the HSE !!! Then perhaps in the defense industry and in medicine, all by necessity.
        Andrey YuryevichBut in another way.
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      7. red_october
        red_october 30 November 2015 09: 54 New
        12
        They offer a choice, which is more important: right or left hand?
        They don’t understand that if Russia is swept by a wave of terrorism, (and for this several years, if not less), then a good or bad economy, medicine, or education will no longer matter.
        We in 90 and the zero ones didn’t touch anyone - and we got dozens of terrorist attacks. And then, in 600 kilometers from our border, we were created such a terrarium as ISIS, which, incidentally, immediately declared Russia an enemy.
        As a graduate of the evening department of the “tower” I can say that for several years of observing the teachers I got the impression that they were there at the HSE (especially the young teachers who graduated from the same HSE in the 90, 00 years ) try to make another America from Russia with exactly the same economy, not realizing that our country is completely different, and while America extended its financial tentacles around the world (especially after 1945 year), we were struggling with our internal problems, we lived , survived, put in WWII 27 million lives. Our bulk is a completely different psychotype: not consuming world resources unrestrainedly and stepping over everyone, no matter what the cost, but simply adjusting your life so that there is peace, peace and prosperity, and the children are healthy.
        1. 16112014nk
          16112014nk 30 November 2015 12: 00 New
          +7
          To paraphrase Vladimir Ilyich a little: “The circle of these“ liberalists is narrow. They are terribly far from the people! ” As always right!
          1. 16112014nk
            16112014nk 30 November 2015 13: 42 New
            +2
            I will add - the matter is compounded by the fact that the majority these natives of the HSE are in the power structures and are even appointed there by our guarantor.
            1. nov_tech.vrn
              nov_tech.vrn 1 December 2015 19: 41 New
              +1
              Moreover, these natives of the HSE support each other and naturally recommend at the first opportunity, as a result, they multiply and multiply, without giving the slightest chance to rise to opponents, they well remember the old principle that when they kill the fifth column, they will take the sixth in ours official structures
          2. Alf
            Alf 30 November 2015 19: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: 16112014nk
            They are terribly far from the people! "

            And they never were people. Even now they consider themselves "elite".
            1. Lena Alena
              Lena Alena 1 December 2015 14: 54 New
              +1
              The word "elite" has long become shameful, abusive, resentful, they have forgotten conscience, humanity and justice.
    4. meriem1
      meriem1 30 November 2015 07: 56 New
      22
      Quote: Finches
      If you dig around, I won’t be surprised that Soros is still the main sponsor and customer of this office! The stuck friend of all "progressively minded financiers and young democracies"! laughing


      Yes, this is flesh from the flesh of the Gaidar office !!! They let them tell about Kudrin !!! Why did he sit on his ass for so many years and did nothing, what are they saying now? He is their student !!!! This office is on state security! Look WHAT they drive in the program of Roman Baboyan !!! Ears are fading! The brain is powdered by youth! They are agents of influence! There it’s time for the FSB to understand!
      1. Finches
        Finches 30 November 2015 08: 41 New
        11
        Why sort it out? There is a law on foreign agents - this is HSE (and it sounds disgusting - like lice ... on the body of Russia), and there is the very first foreign agent, only additionally also on state security! An agent for all agents! laughing
        1. Merchant
          Merchant 30 November 2015 14: 09 New
          +2
          Close this HSE to hell m .... and everyone will be fine, coma liberalists !!! But you don’t need to blaspheme GDP, he is smart and cunning and knows when to stroke, and when to slam!am
    5. Russian Uzbek
      Russian Uzbek 30 November 2015 08: 07 New
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      "" "Academic Supervisor - President of the Liberal Mission Foundation, Default Minister of Economics of the Russian Federation Evgeny Yasin" ""
      so what can I talk about! if anyone remembers - Yasin is one of the ideologists of the "Soviet economic reforms" - i.e. one of the architects of the economic collapse of the USSR
      this sharashkin office needs to be recorded among the "foreign agents" without the slightest hesitation
      1. Lena Alena
        Lena Alena 1 December 2015 15: 02 New
        +1
        I remember that they and Koch steered hand in hand.
    6. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 30 November 2015 09: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: Finches
      If you dig around, I won’t be surprised that Soros is still the main sponsor and customer of this office! The stuck friend of all "progressively minded financiers and young democracies"!

      Crush to hell this snake nest! Not "reformed" in 90? Not yet impatient? Naebullina jumps, and her old man, Naebullin ....
    7. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 10: 03 New
      -2
      If you rummage around, I think the main sponsors are Gazprom, Rosneft and other state-owned companies that pay for training on the target set. Well, the state allocates most of it, along with the money of students themselves studying on an off-budget basis. But this is boring and not interesting, I want to find money from foreign agents. And even if we don’t get it, anyway, even a hedgehog is clear that these pest economists are ruining our economy for ideological reasons, aren't they?
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      2. gjv
        gjv 30 November 2015 11: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Nikolai K
        And even if we don’t get it, anyway, even a hedgehog is clear that these pest economists are ruining our economy for ideological reasons, aren't they?

        So, but not so. There are just stupid, there are justаdata.
    8. sherp2015
      sherp2015 30 November 2015 10: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Finches
      If you dig around, I won’t be surprised that Soros is still the main sponsor and customer of this office! The stuck friend of all "progressively minded financiers and young democracies"!


      Especially if you look at this cunning .... I’m singing my face in the first photo
    9. Hon
      Hon 30 November 2015 12: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Finches
      If you delve into it, I won’t be surprised that Soros is still the main sponsor and customer of this office! The stuck friend of all "progressively minded financiers and young democracies"!

      The Higher School of Economics (HSE) was established on November 27, 1992 by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation - Russia, signed by Yegor Gaidar, who was then Acting Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation. In 1996, the HSE became a State University (SU HSE). Since 2008, the Higher School of Economics came under the jurisdiction of the Government of the Russian Federation [9] - until that time, the Higher School of Economics was under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia. In 2009, the HSE on a competitive basis received the honorary status of the National Research University, becoming the HSE.

      In 2010, the first academic postgraduate study in Russia was opened at the Higher School of Economics.

      In 2012, the Higher School of Economics included the Moscow State Institute of Electronics and Mathematics (MIEM) and two institutions of additional professional education - the Training Center for Executive Training and the State Academy of Investment Specialists (GACIS).
    10. Abrekkos
      Abrekkos 30 November 2015 14: 07 New
      +3
      You may be surprised, but the government of the Russian Federation is the "main sponsor and customer of this office."

      Its full name is the Federal State Autonomous Educational Institution of Higher Professional Education "National Research University Higher School of Economics" under the Government of the Russian Federation.

      But if in the government itself "digging" then yes maybe you are right ... winked
    11. zloi_dekabr
      zloi_dekabr 30 November 2015 14: 32 New
      0
      It’s a pity that comrade Stalin doesn’t have this kobla right now !!!!
      "I followed the documents, and therefore could not please everyone.

      People want to believe that terror is able to defeat corruption and revive social justice. Even some (fortunately, few) historians play up to these sentiments. They reanimate the old “revisionist” schemes about the “weak dictator”, about the spontaneous terror unleashed by the self-serving party bonzes, to which the leader had only some relation.

      All this is completely untrue. To understand what happened in the USSR in the 1920s and 50s, it is important to realize: Stalin was more than a strong dictator. He led the terror, signing plans for the arrests and executions of people in each region. He encouraged, but at the same time controlled the process of overfulfilling these plans, contributing to the incredible unwinding of the flywheel of repression. "
      My son is studying there at the history faculty right now, thank God that relations with him allow me to speak frankly. So he told me about the morals prevailing there! 90% of teachers breathe such poison on Russia that the guard!
    12. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 30 November 2015 15: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Finches
      If you dig around, I won’t be surprised that Soros is still the main sponsor and customer of this office! The stuck friend of all "progressively minded financiers and young democracies"!

      Yes, the notes are familiar. Such rhetoric is constantly repeated, word for word, by Boris "Wikipedia" Nadezhdin, which leads to certain thoughts ... Sincerely.
    13. Madcape
      Madcape 30 November 2015 18: 26 New
      +4
      After this university I was treated for five years for the infectious disease "liberalism" !!!
      From my own experience, I’ll say, based on the fact that Yasin said that HSE will never leave "you", but not only left me, but was kicked out by me. So apparently this Yasni considers his own students a stupid cattle, if he believes that having put a bunch of shit in the head of a person, a person will not be able to get rid of this dung.
    14. varov14
      varov14 30 November 2015 21: 40 New
      +3
      It is high time to create a state corporation in Siberia from these schizans behind barbed wire under the auspices of the FSB, so that their secret does not come to light before time. No, without barracks, let these "highbrow intellectuals" build comfortable housing, schools, hospitals, enterprises, if they work not only in empty language. They will show us an example of advanced Western life, without rockets, only high technology. But something tells me, they will devour each other, like spiders in a jar, to do something in practice is not to scratch your tongue.
    15. sub307
      sub307 1 December 2015 11: 03 New
      0
      Where the "soros proshal" even the "Ukrainians" have nothing to do ..., the "Jews" do "rest". Then I agree with Zhirinovsky - it's time to catch him (Soros) ... and plant him.
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  2. ImPerts
    ImPerts 30 November 2015 06: 30 New
    27
    For a long time already I tell everyone, I write.
    In our country, lawyers and economists graduate the most.
    And the country's biggest problems are precisely in jurisprudence and economics.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 30 November 2015 06: 46 New
      13
      Quote: ImPerts
      And the country's biggest problems are precisely in jurisprudence and economics.


      That's right, there is no one to work in the country, but sellers in clothing markets are all with legal and economic diplomas, and the office is lawyer. mold is also diluted by "university" educators.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 30 November 2015 07: 52 New
        0
        Quote: hydrox
        there’s nobody to work in the country,

        Well, how is there no one? Unemployment rate (ratio of unemployed to economically active population) in January 2015 amounted to 5,5% (without exception, the seasonal factor). hi
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 30 November 2015 06: 36 New
    23
    All this is completely untrue. To understand what happened in the USSR in 1920-50-s, it is important to realize: Stalin was more than a strong dictator. He led the terror, signing plans for arrests and executions of people in each region. He encouraged, but at the same time controlled the process of over-fulfillment of these plans, contributing to the incredible unwinding of the flywheel of repression.


    Stalin took the country with a plow and handed over to the descendants a country with a powerful economy and army ... that's a fact.

    And the fact that the descendants could not use it was not his fault to the full.

    Further, it is foolish to blame STALIN for bloodthirstiness, for those who blame him for this try to keep silent by definition the bloodthirstiness of the very Anglo-Saxons who created their empire on the blood of millions of people ....
    at least remember what the British in India did in their concentration camps in South Africa ... heh heh, the latest know-how of advanced civilization ... remember how the Spaniards destroyed the Indians, Native American Americans and many other facts that liberals from WATER try not to remember.
    So it’s better not to touch STALIN ... compared to Western civilization that destroyed and enslaved hundreds of peoples, STALIN is just an angel.
    1. perm23
      perm23 30 November 2015 07: 02 New
      16
      Yes, just the current wiseacres sitting in a warm office, in the light, in a good chair - today. They cannot understand that situation at that time. It is not given to them, and they don’t need it. It’s easiest to earn money by accusing yourself of what happened. It’s simple and easy to sit and write nonsense sucked from your finger, not understanding that time. How many do not explain that another time, other people do not understand them.
      They only need to cherish, so that Russia always apologizes and repents. So that we always walk with a drooping head and that’s what they need. It all goes to the point of absurdity. A Pole spoke on a TV show and said Russia should apologize for everything, because we won you the Cold War. They Poles and Balts defeated us - idiocy. But liberal traitors lead everything to this. And Stalin was at one time and led the administration as it was possible at that time.
  4. beer-youk
    beer-youk 30 November 2015 06: 48 New
    21
    For many years I tried to understand. Why did the USSR have enough money for education, medicine, defense, free housing, and generally for everything. In addition, they fed a bunch of freebies. Now they have gotten rid of the burden, and money has become less and is no longer enough for the most necessary. The reasons, of course, are deep and varied, but from what lies on the surface - revenues from the "oil needle" then went entirely to the budget, and now 13%, there was a state monopoly on foreign trade and alcohol production.
    Everything liberal economists have touched is turning to dust!
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 08: 26 New
      -9
      Because in our country there was a huge deficit of freedom. Such that, starting in the middle of the 80's, most simply freaked out. But it’s like giving a starving person a lot of time a lot of food at once: you can die. So in the 90 we all economists, politicians and ordinary citizens have become liberals. They believed in democracy and a free market and staged another revolution, ruining production. And then, as it is customary for us, he swung to the other extreme suddenly became state, but with corruption specifics, this is when the closer you are to the state, the more you fill your own pocket. So you already have outdated information, liberal economists have long been no longer in favor.
      1. Alf
        Alf 30 November 2015 19: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Nikolai K
        Because in our country there was a huge deficit of freedom.

        In what? The fact that it was forbidden to steal and grab your mouth and anus? Or lack of porn on the box? Or forbidden to drink freely, to expand?
      2. badens1111
        badens1111 3 August 2017 08: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Nikolai K
        Because in our country there was a huge deficit of freedom.

        Your freedom to talk about anything, steal and rob? To hell with your freedom.
        Quote: Nikolai K
        So in the 90s, all economists, politicians and ordinary citizens became liberals. They believed in democracy and a free market and staged another revolution, ruining production.

        Lies, you made a coup in 90 years, lied to people and did not say that you commit a crime when you did what Chubais and Gaidar did.
        Quote: Nikolai K
        And then, as it is customary for us, he swung to the other extreme suddenly became state, but with corruption specifics, this is when the closer you are to the state, the more you fill your own pocket.

        Do not pull the owl on the globe, the criminal component is solely your merit, the merit of the liberals, you made a bet on crime when you were looking for support in the form of a class of owners.
  5. surrozh
    surrozh 30 November 2015 06: 51 New
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    It was not Putin who called Kuzminov a fool after the “lice” declared the uselessness of the Russian Arctic and leasing to the more advanced West?
  6. Darkness
    Darkness 30 November 2015 06: 52 New
    10
    Khlevnyuk - what a talking last name.
  7. Good cat
    Good cat 30 November 2015 06: 54 New
    0
    Well, well, dodging economists ... the time will come!
  8. perm23
    perm23 30 November 2015 06: 54 New
    32
    HSE is a breeding ground for traitors and saboteurs against Russia. All that they do is reflected in education, medicine, economics. 3 years ago in our region a HSE branch provided free training, the company sent me. He studied for 1 week, could no longer listen to this. He began to argue, to prove that it was wrong, as a result, they asked me not to come again. From the first lessons - one truth. an entrepreneur must earn money by any means, no matter what.
    To do this, you can apply the following - lower wages to employees, increase the volume of work, supply of the cheapest components, regardless of quality. I, as an energetic, was indignant as it is possible. this is idiocy. A worker with a small salary and a large volume of work will not be able to work normally, poor-quality spare parts and components are the way to an accident. But the main thing for them is to earn money for the owner, and there the grass does not grow. And all of their medical education offerings lead to the collapse of schools and hospitals. To drive a filthy broom on a logging all this bastard. or at all in expense.
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 30 November 2015 10: 21 New
      +6
      Quote: perm23
      an entrepreneur must earn money by any means, no matter what.
      To do this, you can apply the following - lower wages to employees, increase the volume of work, supply of the cheapest components, regardless of quality.


      This is a preparation for hidden sabotage, the destruction of the country, something similar was before the war.
  9. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 06: 56 New
    11
    pre-default Minister of Economy of the Russian Federation Evgeny Yasin;

    What did Alexei write so softly about him - one of the main creators of default, it seems to be more accurate? Kinder surprise only covered him and Chernomyrdin right?
    And everywhere the word he loved so much - “reform” of the ATP - barely survived from these reformers ..
  10. Horn
    Horn 30 November 2015 07: 02 New
    18
    It’s a strange thing: there is no economy, but there is a HSE! ..
    And her leader, a certain Yasin, the great-grandson of Yasi Solomonovna, is saddened by the lack of builders in Russia after the Turks were weaned from the nipples expiring with milk. I forgot, Mr. Economist, that no Turks were built in the USSR, and nothing, there are house-factories-bridges, etc., built without Turks. Until now, HSE feeding ups cannot ruin what was built without them and without Turks!
  11. Neophyte
    Neophyte 30 November 2015 07: 02 New
    +6
    Vshivtsy are political economists who are not related to the economy. It is no secret that many of them are supported by grants from certain NGOs with a "Western orientation."
  12. 1536
    1536 30 November 2015 07: 03 New
    11
    It’s impossible to steal on “Caliber”. To mock people, write "dissertations" and wait for a pat on the shoulder from Obama, does not work. Whether it’s medicine or education. There is where to turn around. Therefore, either "Caliber", or education and medicine - read the "well-being" of the elite of Russian society in the person of its non-Russian citizens.
    This hmyr even agreed that he predicted a halt to the construction industry in Russia as a result of the imposed sanctions against the Turks. But if this school doesn’t exist, will something stop in Russia or not? I think that definitely not!
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2015 07: 06 New
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    HSE celebrates its 23rd birthday

    For 23 years this institution has been working hard against Russia, growing a replacement for the old liberal traitors. Moreover, their representatives are constantly featured in various media, including state, with their sermons and forecasts. If you look, the HSE is a forge of 5 columns. Based on this, it is simply necessary to take at least some measures. Otherwise, you can play with democracy and freedom of speech to the pen.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 30 November 2015 08: 32 New
      +4
      What a "quiet" constantly minus my comments. Answer me. And then somehow vilely, secretly without explanation for many days.
      1. provincial
        provincial 30 November 2015 09: 01 New
        +2
        I’ve been writing about this for a long time, minus that at least tell me what you don’t agree with. Maybe my opinion is wrong, I’ll apologize and correct. But this “infection” generally leaves the site, it remains to think maybe I really don’t think so and something I don’t understand, but this "wise guy" did not explain, and somewhere he is "proud" of his dictum.
        1. provincial
          provincial 30 November 2015 09: 26 New
          0
          And I’ll add, pay attention to the minuses became less. Children went to school, office plankton to offices, officials to their institutions, etc. pensioners remained.
    2. sherp2015
      sherp2015 30 November 2015 10: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      . If you look, the HSE is a forge of 5 columns.



      Definitely! a bunch of renegades ...
  14. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 30 November 2015 07: 16 New
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    The concerns of these professionals need to be removed, for which
    1) Disband this institution and stop financing it
    2) In government salaries, move the comma one character to the left. Dissent cut.
    Then the caliber is enough for education and medicine.
    3) To create and submit to a nationwide discussion a new model of the country's economic development, taking into account the latest political events,
    in economics
    a) the mechanism of invulnerability from other countries should be laid down,
    b) the export of capital is stopped
    c) the mechanism of economic development based on the available in the country energy, natural, labor resources
    d) guaranteed social protection of the population from shocks in the economies of other countries.
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 08: 34 New
      -5
      One question regarding n.3. And who will create a new economic model if you implement the 1 clause and disperse all economists (in other universities the same economists as in the HSE can only be less stellar), do you personally?
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 30 November 2015 10: 38 New
        +6
        Quote: Nikolai K
        And who will create a new economic model, if you implement item 1

        And there Glazyev is just working on it
      2. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 30 November 2015 20: 02 New
        +1
        A new model of the country's economy should be created by production specialists, managers of enterprises with work experience. They know exactly what is necessary for the normal development of production. Moreover, much of the socialist economic system can be taken as a basis.
        When in the USSR, enterprises were transferred to self-financing, many enterprises developed very well — there was enough money for current activities, for development and for social programs. Now, with "effective management", all finances are withdrawn from the enterprise — almost everyone does not have working capital, and funds for development, especially, to say nothing, even salary funds — everything is withdrawn from the enterprise.
    2. anip
      anip 30 November 2015 09: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: olimpiada15
      2) In government salaries, move the comma one character to the left. Dissent cut.

      And why only governments? And all sorts of Millers, Yakunins and the like? They can, I think, put a comma in the salary figure and move them two characters to the left.
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      2. gjv
        gjv 30 November 2015 12: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: anip
        They can, I think, put a comma in the salary figure and move them two characters to the left.

        Mb and not two signs, but most senior management, looking at the salaries of ordinary employees and workers, definitely has 30-50% overweight.
      3. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 30 November 2015 12: 40 New
        +1
        I liked the items 1-3 and articles a-d.
        With your permission, I’ll add a little, do you mind?
        paragraph 1 - to add - "... all those present there - to shoot ..". For prevention.
        p.2 - transfer a comma between the first and second digits. One fig they are on state security. Distribute this clause also to the State Duma and the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, as well as to the regional Duma.
        Clause 2.1 - to introduce annual reports of officials of any rank with digital indicators - I did so much, the effect is so, I did not do so much. If the excess is done more than 1/10 - the drive from a habitable place.
        Clause 3 - instruct Nikolai K to develop a new model of economic development. Offer to put it into practice (and we intercede with the Guarantor).
        If in two years no shifts are found - ... well, it’s clear what I will offer next, right?
        Agree, Nicholas K, no?
        .
        Well, that's the whole calico. I had no doubt.
        .
        I do not have an economic education. I at the institute from the Ministry of Fisheries passed the only subject to the top three - namely the economy.
        Because it is nonsense. A cunningly invented way to retouch the inability to cut costs.
        I note .... appoint me to the role of introducing a new economic policy with execution on unsatisfactory results - I agree.
        But I will require dictatorial powers in the implementation.
        .
        Otherwise, stroking and lisp - nothing can be achieved.
        .
        Do not go to the grandmother.
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        2. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 30 November 2015 13: 19 New
          +2
          One of the problems of our economy is that the economy in our country is controlled not by economists, but by politicians. And as I have said repeatedly, Putin is a good spy and a strong politician, but a disgusting economist. The next problem in our country is the lack of SYSTEM management, which is replaced by manual control. On the one hand, this, like nothing else, allowed to strengthen the vertical of power, on the other hand, officials lack clear criteria for the effectiveness of their work and in general often no one really knows what he should do. So do your p.2.1. in the current conditions is unrealizable. Finally, the biggest trouble with our governance system is corruption. The problem is not even in the amount of the stolen money itself, but in the fact that the main GOAL of the official’s work is not to efficiently fulfill his official duties, but to fill his own pocket, i.e. the interests of the state and its officials do not agree at all, respectively, the movement vector is directed in the other direction. But this is a big problem. No matter how you ask for guarantors, in the current conditions it depends on its thieving encirclement, the new Russian elite, much more than on the common people. Putin does not fight corruption not because he does not want, but because he CAN’T. In which case, this same elite will throw it in two, as it once threw off Nikolai. But he is afraid to rely on the people, because it is fraught with revolution. So current economists are ministers without a portfolio. You can write and advise anything, but who will implement it?
          1. Bashibuzuk
            Bashibuzuk 30 November 2015 15: 51 New
            0
            Well, here in your story you didn’t find a single gram
            what I would object to.
            Or be displeased.
            All head to head.
            And even about unrealizability.
            After all, when it was said from the very top - "we are not 37 years old"
            M-yes.
            .
            Well, well, to the end of the belt, to the buckle, I still have 40 centimeters left.
      4. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 30 November 2015 20: 05 New
        0
        Alas, the income of Millerov and his ilk is not appointed by the state.
  15. Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 30 November 2015 07: 39 New
    +9
    Just overclock and that's it. And it’s better to send to the west, let them teach everyone there. Hotbed of infection in our country. I don’t understand one thing, it’s such an impression that Moscow lives separately from the country. On top of them there, the reasoning box is completely turned off or the plane at the alternate aerodrome in pairs. To run away on time.
  16. Colonel
    Colonel 30 November 2015 07: 43 New
    16
    HSE concerns formula: "Either" Calibers "or education and medicine"

    I propose: “Gauges”, education, medicine, but without HSE.
  17. Riv
    Riv 30 November 2015 07: 46 New
    +9
    For the launches of "Caliber" I am ready to forgive Putin a poor knowledge of higher mathematics, and Shoigu - the lack of practice in English. The question, however, is the same: why then do we need such "institutions"?
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 08: 46 New
      -5
      You can forgive. Yes, the mistake is that we can use relatively large quantities of calibers so far, mainly on the occasion of the president’s birthday, which happens once a year. Because how to use them more often is painfully expensive: one salvo cost us, according to various estimates, 2-8 billion rubles. This is the amount of annual pension compensation for hundreds of thousands of pensioners. Gold comes out in our calibers, and this is when the river of oil excess profits has run out and it seems like you have to think how to develop your own economy in the country, and not just steer Gazprom and Rosneft.
      1. Shark Lover
        Shark Lover 30 November 2015 11: 52 New
        +2
        Why do you immediately transfer to retirement, maybe Abramovich helpfully sponsored, at the "request" of the Supreme, he became a PATRIOT)))) or someone else erupted in patriotism.
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        2. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 30 November 2015 11: 55 New
          0
          Because money is not known to smell. Even if Abramovich personally counted out Putin’s hard coin, money could be spent on the very same pensions or kindergartens.
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      3. gjv
        gjv 30 November 2015 12: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: Nikolai K
        The mistake is that we can use relatively large quantities of calibers so far, mainly on the occasion of the president’s birthday, which happens once a year. Because how to use them more often comes out painfully expensive: one volley cost us, according to various estimates, 2-8 billion rubles.

        What are the different estimates? Rocket Caliber costs about 6-7 million rubles. A salvo of 24 missiles, even taking into account the overhead costs (including the participation of the sawmakers and in this process) at 500% in value, will not exceed 1 billion.
        More than 1280% of overhead costs and drank - arbitrary postscript, or what, is this corruption already with us ?! Then, as I am a pensioner, I am still alive, and even yesterday I bought 5-star Armenian cognac ?!
        But to think, and even better, not to think, but to develop our own economy, and not the American, Turkish, and another HZ whose, yes, it’s time and a long time, and not just to steer Gazprom and Rosneft.
  18. v-sorok
    v-sorok 30 November 2015 07: 48 New
    +8
    It all started with Gaidar! And still this mosquito is trying to dictate economic reforms in the country! Close it is high time this sharashkin office! "Specialists" at someone else's expense.
    1. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 30 November 2015 11: 53 New
      +1
      Gaydaryshnya right now will raise Ukraine, there "reforms" will not hinder. Daddy raised her for this
  19. mik0588
    mik0588 30 November 2015 07: 48 New
    +5
    "Anti-state statists." That says it all!
  20. press officer
    press officer 30 November 2015 07: 51 New
    0
    Quote: hydrox
    Is Putin taking too long to choose the path to recovery, watching liberal liberals plunder Russia?
    What else should the liberals do to be at least expelled from the country?
    There is no answer from Putin ...



    Putin again? And he should keep track of everything .. one .. (who wrote there about the “feudal” government of the country? Here it is the “manual” management of the country!) As long as the GDP in the brain does not give all five-columners, the whiners will be to blame for it! But nobody works besides him? Not? So many people, and he alone must keep track of everything! And everyone to learn how to live? !!!! Well, what about it? fool Or can the government clean the brains and so that they have graduated from universities? And not only universities? Yes, that's just hard to prove betrayal in their case! And the article "Betrayal of the Motherland" is not yet in the Constitution.
    I think that just GDP assistants are not enough, those who will spread rot for freaks such as these ..... in the HSE! Not everyone in the Government agrees with him! Laws on NPOs have been issued but are not enforced locally. And who should keep track of this? Che, GDP again? And why the hell then the rest of the workers? The apparatus is there .. State Duma .. etc. etc.??? And then you are glad to try to whine that such a GDP is not so ... poorly fighting ... negative
    1. anip
      anip 30 November 2015 09: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: press attache
      So many people, and he alone must keep track of everything!

      But nothing that the director of the enterprise must monitor everything, and if something is wrong somewhere, then punish and dismiss subordinates? If Putin cannot track everything, then why is he taking his place?
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 30 November 2015 10: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: press attache
      But nobody works besides him? Not? So many people, and he alone must keep track of everything! And everyone to learn how to live? !!!! Well, what about it?

      And who built such a vertical of power in which the president himself steers by suburban electric trains, or by ordering to repair the roof for a needy girl, or is there giving an order in a distant village to repair the roof?
    3. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 10: 43 New
      -2
      Putin himself created a manual control system in the country, concentrating all power in his hands. So these are the costs of his chosen management style.
      1. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 30 November 2015 12: 56 New
        +2
        Bli-and-and-and-n, but the men did not know.
        "... the costs of his chosen management style ...."
        Nikolay K, there is only one cost in this style -
        some friends around.
        And friends are somehow embarrassed not only to shoot, but even to leave without a wide feeder.
        And friends also want to steer. And they know their best friend as flaky.
        .
        .
        The books of V. Yan and the like are recalled, where the supreme khan, in kurultai, has smaller khans raised on white felt.
        Here they took in their hands the ends of this litter, and lifted up.
        Those. we bring you to the top, but don’t forget that we hold you. We're few. And you can’t see the rest at all.
        One will let go of your hand - and so you will fail.
        And if everyone quits, they will simply break it.
        Symbolically, isn't it?
        ....
        And there is another way to become a good leader.
        For example - take Stalin, review historical characters, recall the same film "Brigade".
        .
        Or a satisfying collective feeding trough, or a team torn up.
        And all sorts of other models are not viable.
  21. Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 30 November 2015 07: 51 New
    11
    Yeah, Sharashkin’s office ... There is such an activist from there, B.B. Nadezhdin, a lover of speaking on all kinds of talk shows. To listen to him is the only right way for us to pray in the USA. Well, that’s it. him, and about this sharaga.
  22. Vadimsh
    Vadimsh 30 November 2015 08: 03 New
    0
    Yes, truly HSE is a delicate matter ....
  23. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 30 November 2015 08: 30 New
    +6
    The HSE created everything correctly, which ruined the whole of Soviet education and the economy, because in the country, in order to raise the economy, we need artists and other comrades of a similar genre, and turners, a locksmith, and an engineer are kind of a big deal.
  24. horoh
    horoh 30 November 2015 08: 45 New
    +5
    All of our liberal trash must be cleaned up, otherwise it’s not known where we’ll roll back !!!
  25. theodore rasp
    theodore rasp 30 November 2015 08: 49 New
    +6
    Quote: beer-youk
    Why did the USSR have enough money for education, medicine, defense, free housing, and generally for everything.


    From myself I will add - There was no need to fight inflation, because there was no one to untwist it - the number of banks was within the framework of the statistical error!
  26. Boris55
    Boris55 30 November 2015 08: 53 New
    +6
    An interesting article on this topic: "AUTHORITIES need to be disinfected from HSE parasitism!"
    http://79.120.77.163/page.php?id=401
  27. Petrik66
    Petrik66 30 November 2015 09: 27 New
    +4
    Compared to other economic universities in Moscow, the HSE provides at least some knowledge. Liberal ideas, and in what other universities? Economy faculty of Moscow State University or Plekhanovka - can you justify the opinion that there they are training real patriots? All over the world there are two economic schools, one of them is liberal. In the Russian Federation, economic disciplines are taught by those who previously read to students the political economy of socialism and scientific communism with planning together. There are no others and in the near future will not be. I read HSE textbooks, mixed up if it weren’t so sad. it is especially fun to read about the USSR and its collapse. Unfortunately, our children learn from this nonsense and see no alternative.
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    2. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 4 December 2015 11: 32 New
      0
      Compared to other economic universities in Moscow, the HSE provides at least some knowledge.

      Gives knowledge and very good. My daughter graduated from the Higher School of Economics in 2005.
      As for the inculcated ideology in the HSE ... there is such a thing if a normal ideology is not vaccinated in the family.
      The question is different. If in the beginning of 2000, HSE was a university providing good knowledge, then further it became more and more politicized. And it is worth dividing the students who study there into various groups. Some came there to get good knowledge, others (we note not fools, those fly from the HSE), for a prestigious diploma. And the latter are most susceptible to the liberal ideology that HSE is trying to give students
  28. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 30 November 2015 09: 33 New
    +6
    For 23 years this dirty office has been stamping enemies of the people and traitors!
    They will not believe who they say that Russia is enthusiastically training and preparing the enemies of Russia!
    Even Great Stalin is remembered by their filthy stinking hawalnik, creatures!
  29. JonnyT
    JonnyT 30 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +1
    Fu Fu Fu!!!!! what an abomination it is! Parasites !!!!!

    By the way - to create something like a “caliber”, educated personnel, engineers, equipment operators, technologists, etc. are required.
    Maybe we have a different concept about education ????
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 10: 49 New
      +1
      Of course. It’s the calibers that we have thanks to Putin, and it’s not Putin who is ruining the economy of the country, but the liberal economists from the HSE, which’s understandable.
      PS. for hedgehogs: wink
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  30. Auralski
    Auralski 30 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +3
    We will not stock more Caliber - there will be no one to "educate" and heal.
  31. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 30 November 2015 09: 39 New
    +4
    Judging by their many works .. scribbles, etc ... all these liberals .. oligarchs and thieves are not afraid of prison ... and not confiscation of property ... because all this can be stolen later .... and they are afraid only repression .. shootings. Otherwise, why is everyone so frantically trying to denigrate Stalin and his methods.
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 10: 52 New
      -4
      Judging by the numerous writings, in our country the main thieves and oligarchs are HSE teachers and other economists, not government officials and other friends of Putin.
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  32. evil partisan
    evil partisan 30 November 2015 10: 01 New
    +4
    pre-default minister of economy of the Russian Federation Evgeny Yasin
    Look at this ... I can’t calmly am.
    He noted here not so long ago about the termination of the Dynasty investment fund. He has such a passage there: they say the fund’s financial activities were connected with offshore companies because it is now fashionable !! belay And there is no sin in this ...
  33. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 30 November 2015 10: 23 New
    +7
    Gaidar, Yasin, Aganbegyan, Popov, ... how many candles ... helped to ruin the country!
    And they continue to compose the brains of the current pre-trained idiots.
    Alas, the struggle of the state of Russia again goes wrong and wrong.
    The worst enemy is internal. The biggest traitors within the state.
    Poverty, lack of education, lack of normal prospects, work, salaries, pensions - leads to terrorism!
    And you won’t fix it with any Caliber and SU. Unfortunately, waging war only exacerbates the situation.
    Bad country policies are conducted both inside and outside it!
    And they are the skirmishers - teachers (traitors) and students of this institution!
  34. Dim Bes
    Dim Bes 30 November 2015 10: 23 New
    +4
    The leadership of this institution in order is a ready-made firing list. With a cold head and great humanism in the heart. For everything that they have done, they are doing, and they will do it. This is my pure opinion, I hope the moderator again does not delete for inciting.
  35. kirgudu
    kirgudu 30 November 2015 10: 33 New
    11
    There is another option - to shoot all the liberoids in politics and recognize Russia's 25 year course in its destruction as a mistake.
    But no one will ever recognize this, especially after the praises of the center of libertsia - the Yeltsind Center.

  36. the villain
    the villain 30 November 2015 10: 36 New
    +3
    Here are the "liberal economists" who constantly think: how much the country costs for the defense industry, how much madicin and education, how prohibitively expensive the social network is, but I’m wondering how much the country’s cost for these "economic lights" ??? Although - it would be in monetary terms.
  37. Letterksi
    Letterksi 30 November 2015 11: 03 New
    +2
    According to Yasin, the prison is crying
  38. Victor-M
    Victor-M 30 November 2015 11: 05 New
    +2
    HSE concerns formula: "Either" Calibers "or education and medicine"

    For HSE it’s better if not both.
  39. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 30 November 2015 11: 16 New
    +3
    And why does this liberal cube of Russia's enemies exist at all? Is it time to put them under the rink?
  40. Shilochnik
    Shilochnik 30 November 2015 11: 27 New
    +4
    In my understanding, the so-called economists have never been statist ... For these gentlemen, the economy has nothing to do with the state. Even more, they are interested in the global economy! And our state should "grow into it" !!!! Everything that they used over the past couple of decades has thrown the country to the rank of a "developing" economy! All that was with our industry, science, education is your bitch reforms! Did not finish to the end ???? Maybe that's why Russia still lives as a State! And the "Yeltsin Center" ..... I honestly did not understand ..... The time not to touch the "family" is over! Maybe you should pay what you deserve?
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 11: 42 New
      +1
      You're right. Modern economists (not to be confused with political economists) are for the most part liberals (from the word "freedom"), since they adhere to the postulate of the need for a free (market) economy. Meeting an economist not a liberal is just as abnormal as meeting a military liberal. Because the latter have almost the opposite hypostasis: what freedom can we talk about when there is an order that they SHOULD fulfill.
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  41. Kibl
    Kibl 30 November 2015 11: 29 New
    +4
    So if there will be no "Caliber", "Almaty", SU-35, MIG-35, "Clubs" and other gadgets, there will be neither medicine, nor health care in Russia, but I am afraid there will be no Russia! Like these "learned" men understand, although they all understand perfectly, in a word enemies and creatures are corrupt!
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 11: 47 New
      +1
      Right. If there is no army, then there will be no state. But if there is an army, but there is no economy, then there will be no one to defend, or at best we will get life as in North Korea. So let's find the optimal solution, taking into account our capabilities and without excesses.
    2. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 30 November 2015 11: 47 New
      0
      Right. If there is no army, then there will be no state. But if there is an army, but there is no economy, then there will be no one to defend, or at best we will get life as in North Korea. So let's find the optimal solution, taking into account our capabilities and without excesses.
  42. Belousov
    Belousov 30 November 2015 11: 59 New
    +1
    Attention should be paid to the sources of financing - the Government of the Russian Federation. And Putin constantly insists that he is completely satisfied with the work of the government. So draw conclusions why this HSE lives and thrives ...
  43. Archon
    Archon 30 November 2015 12: 02 New
    0
    As a person related to education, I’ll say that it’s effective to invest in calibers, but not in education and medicine. Because the calibers have already been developed, tested, put on the conveyor, tested and proven. And medicine and education are an unorganized black hole for the budget. First of all, education and medicine need the right reforms and their implementation, and then financing
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 November 2015 12: 28 New
      +6
      "And medicine and education - an unorganized black hole for the budget" ////

      Without medicine and education there will be no Caliber of the future.
      No one will develop them.
  44. veksha50
    veksha50 30 November 2015 12: 28 New
    +3
    "Further unexpectedly mention is made of Caliber rocket launches, which, as it were, prevent the state from financing the education and health care in the right amount"....

    Better Caliber is the guardian of the Fatherland than the HSE and its liberals, ruining the country's economy to please the "world hegemon" ...

    PS Would calibrate this HSE ... according to Russian, not Western standards ...
  45. Yugra
    Yugra 30 November 2015 13: 06 New
    +1
    A nest of liberalism and traitors. It’s time to put it down already ...
  46. Lumumba
    Lumumba 30 November 2015 13: 20 New
    +2
    From the fact that they will cut back the production of "calibers", there will be no more schools.
    But the "Caliber", which is clear from the foregoing, will be less.

    Some biased forecasts from the HSE. They smack of something like that ... You can’t write bad words here.
  47. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 30 November 2015 13: 37 New
    +3
    why at one time, when the current scientists from the HSE leadership were directly at the helm of the state, did Russia actually have no defense, no army, no social sphere? Why (in a strange way ...) was this mechanism implemented that allowed truly astronomical capital to be withdrawn from the richest country, including the mechanism of barbaric privatization?


    Being generally consistent with a number of provisions of the article.

    I consider it necessary to note nevertheless that in the 90s when "the current scientists from the HSE leadership were directly at the helm of the state," oil and raw materials cost ~ $ 10 and not 100-120 as under the current authorities.

    I remember what happened after the 1998 crisis. The economy grew by 10% per year, and this is due to devaluation, $ 10-15 for oil, all gold and foreign currency reserves $ 14 billion (not 380 now) and the real sector grew. Because not all of the real economy has yet to collapse. What now? Everything is falling. And now the situation is almost the same as when there are no loans, devaluation, cheap oil, etc. ...

    Because 99% of our successes since 2003. were determined by the fact that oil suddenly began to cost, it cost $ 80-120 and at the same time, current men ruined the whole real economy.

    Let's see what happens if the price of $ 40-45 lasts a couple more years. They’ll cut everything too. I am silent if 10 years.
    and in the 1990s, $ 10-15 and lasted 10 years.

    All this import substitution, etc., is a purely erected screen ... It’s worth the problem to resolve and everything may again surrender. There is no guarantee that everything will suddenly not return to normal and that means no one will invest and give all the best. And our GDP does not control any of this.

    I am silent about the export of capital and current income. Yasin and the whole team of that time were simply paupers in comparison with the current “husbands”.

    So there’s a grain of truth in the article, but you don’t need to distort it either.

    Yeltsins, Yasins, Gaidyrs and others have been at the helm for less than 8 years.

    And the current team at the helm is already 15. And what do we have when oil prices fell to the level of still 3-4 times higher than those then?

    We eat the rest and already sit on a hungry rations, not only in social programs, medicine, but also in the defense industry ...

    At $ 40-50, not at $ 9-10 as then, but at the same time we are not actively growing in the manufacturing industry, as after the 1998 crisis, but we are falling without prospects for active growth.
  48. Ostrovnoy
    Ostrovnoy 30 November 2015 13: 49 New
    +1
    We have in Russia such economists a dime a dozen. Wherever you spit you get either an economist or a lawyer. But for some reason there were no good turners, milling workers and other professions “hands”. Although the number of educational institutions increased over 23 years.
  49. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 30 November 2015 13: 52 New
    +2
    Forge of colonial frames. One to one.
  50. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 30 November 2015 13: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: Archon
    As a person related to education, I’ll say that it’s effective to invest in calibers, but not in education and medicine. Because the calibers have already been developed, tested, put on the conveyor, tested and proven. And medicine and education are an unorganized black hole for the budget. First of all, education and medicine need the right reforms and their implementation, and then financing


    “As a person related” to all calibers I’ll say. There the black hole will be cooler.

    And to shoot these calibers are no longer suitable. they simply won’t reach our potential adversary even of the same Turkey with a high degree of credibility. And because of practice, even Turks are not afraid of them.

    NATO is afraid of our Caliber only on the screens of our TV and at the hearings when driving in new means, in order to be ahead of us not by a generation but by two (it’s calmer and more profitable).

    So you need to invest not in the current Caliber, but in the formation of brains and hands that will make the future or not invest at all and break.