Sergey Lavrov: Turkey's leadership has crossed the line of permissible

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, commenting on the strike of the Turkish Air Force on the Russian plane that performed the counterterrorism mission in Syria, called Ankara’s actions a transition of the limit of permissible. Sergey Lavrov quotes LifeNews:

We believe that the Turkish leadership has crossed the line of permissible. It runs the risk of leading Turkey into a difficult situation - both in terms of long-term national interests, and in terms of the situation in the region.


Sergey Lavrov: Turkey's leadership has crossed the line of permissible


Meanwhile, the Ukrainian users on the day of the attack by the Turkish interceptors of the Russian aircraft posted on the Internet a video called “Turkish air force in operation”. The video is presented by the so-called “All-Ukrainian Association of Volunteers”:



And in the German edition Süddeutsche Zeitung An article was published which stated that in Russia for centuries the Turks were demonized "much more actively than in Europe." The authors of the material report that Vladimir Putin, declaring that Turkey had stabbed him in the back, "reanimated the image of a Turk waving by a scimitar, rooted in the Russian mind, and plunging a blade into the back for a piece of sausage. At the same time, German authors claim that Russia preserved such an image of Turkey “through generations in its folklore”.

Interestingly, what would the German media say about Turkey now if, by order of Ankara, a German Air Force plane was shot down? Or does Germany believe that it is necessary to be politically correct with Turkey, given that in Germany itself, according to the most conservative estimates, about 6 millions of Turks live?
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  1. +53
    27 November 2015 15: 07
    Lavrov is one of those people who, in short, correctly and in fact puts any opponent in his place.
    As for the video posted by the Ukrainians about the "Turkish Air Force at Work", I sincerely feel sorry for these people. Since, except as ostentatious - this video can not be called. But on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, you can really find a video where the Russian Aerospace Forces are in Syria, which neither is in real WORK.
    1. +7
      27 November 2015 15: 10
      Quote: Sergey K.
      Lavrov is one of those people who, in short, correctly and in fact puts any opponent in his place.

      In the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, fools are not kept.
      1. +19
        27 November 2015 15: 13
        Lavrov just does not chat .. So everything will be serious! Erdogan hang yourself ...! angry
        1. +21
          27 November 2015 15: 21
          Ukrainians completely abandoned.
          Syria, now Turkey.
          So they are trying to jump out of panties.
          They think how to put a bunch of stinky things in order to remember them because of stench and stink.
          And the Germans apparently there too. How did the Frenchman push grandmother away.
          The Germans, as violent fans of Turkey, were worried about Russian-Turkish relations and the place of the Turks in Russian folklore.
          Remember the Germans - what is good for a Russian is a German for what?
          1. +5
            27 November 2015 15: 36
            Quote: Temples
            Ukrainians completely abandoned.

            Sorry, but this is not possible. This is a smoldering wick, the thickness of a ship’s rope, laid to an uncontrollable charge, with unknown consequences. This project is not abandoned in any way. The hand on the button is held by all interested parties. Waiting for the right moment.
        2. +2
          27 November 2015 16: 33
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Lavrov just does not chat .. So everything will be serious! Erdogan hang yourself ...! angry

          It is interesting to know what kind of answer is being prepared for the deceitful Turk. It is clear that the economic and diplomatic are the fastest ... but what do we think at the top about the military response?
          1. -2
            27 November 2015 22: 11
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Lavrov just does not chat .. So everything will be serious! Erdogan hang yourself ...! angry

            It is interesting to know what kind of answer is being prepared for the deceitful Turk. It is clear that the economic and diplomatic are the fastest ... but what do we think at the top about the military response?

            hope that the military response will be and will be consistent. The economic response is doing more damage to Russian entrepreneurs so far. Turkish goods have arrived at the customs, everyone is applauding - that's what they need, let them know. Great. And what about an entrepreneur who brought a container of toilet paper with credit money, paying for it when the Turks were friends and BB shook hands with Erdogan and talked about the prospects for cooperation. What damage was caused to Turkey by rotting the so-called "perishable" at the customs? Okay, when Auchan was carrying the goods, but everything was blocked. I'm not outraged because of my special love for Turkish tomatoes (Krasnodar ones are better), but why is everything done through f? In the Krasnodar Territory, they are forced to remove Turkish goods from the shelves, the next step will be a ban on the use of furniture? Will they force you to throw out the Turkish plumbing (I have a Turkish toilet and bath)? How does a product ALREADY purchased differ from my toilet? At the same time, what can really cause fatal damage to the Turkish economy - the Blue Stream is functioning and will continue to function. Gazprom should not be offended, just like Rosatom, which is going to build a nuclear power plant in Turkey for its (ours) money. At the moment, I personally see an imitation of the reaction to the Turkish demarche.
        3. +1
          27 November 2015 21: 02
          We must finish what Kolchak wanted to do, the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles will be Russian
      2. +1
        27 November 2015 15: 15
        And the ambassador to (in) Ukraine?
      3. Tor5
        +3
        27 November 2015 15: 15
        Unfortunately - it happens, remember Judah - Kozyrev.
        1. +4
          27 November 2015 15: 30
          That's right, say yourself - JUDUS. Kozyrev - M.R.A.Z., but not. He lives now at the Yankees.
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      5. +34
        27 November 2015 15: 21
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/227/ghhh254.png

        A complete boycott of everything Turkish in Russia !!!
        1. +5
          27 November 2015 15: 47
          Quote: sever.56
          A complete boycott of everything Turkish in Russia !!!


          And what about our grabbers?

          The authorities of the Krasnodar Territory warned about the rise in price of resorts

          Prices for tours to resorts of the Krasnodar Territory will increase by 5-7% due to the reorientation of tourists after the ban on Egypt and Turkey. This was reported to the agency "Interfax-South" by the Minister of resorts and tourism of the region Yevgeny Kudel on the sidelines of the international tourism forum in Sochi on Friday. “Demand for the expensive segment will increase slightly and prices, respectively, of interest on 5-7% may rise
          1. 0
            27 November 2015 18: 02
            in, in and then they are surprised that you didn’t go to us but go there.
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      7. +4
        27 November 2015 15: 27
        Quote: volot-voin
        In the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, fools are not kept.

        At the Putin Foreign Ministry. May God grant him health, clarity of mind, sober calculation for many years.
      8. +13
        27 November 2015 16: 23
        Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov will not speak a single word in vain, the consequences for the Turks will certainly be what we see.
      9. -2
        27 November 2015 16: 25
        Quote: volot-voin
        In the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, fools are not kept.


        For some time, unfortunately ...
      10. +1
        27 November 2015 16: 46
        It used to be held. Kozyrev. Yes, not fool, but still a fool.
      11. 0
        27 November 2015 18: 07
        Quote: volot-voin
        In the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, fools are not kept.

        In the Russian Foreign Ministry, yes, you cannot vouch for many others ....
    2. Tor5
      +10
      27 November 2015 15: 13
      One of the wisest ministers!
      1. +7
        27 November 2015 15: 22
        Ukrainians nits, why are they better than the Turks?
      2. +14
        27 November 2015 15: 43
        Quote: Tor5
        One of the wisest ministers!
        Definitely!
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    4. +18
      27 November 2015 15: 13
      Well, what to expect from the Ukrainians, they once again showed their rotten insides, and turned swan for handouts. We all Turkish people are neither enemies nor responsible for the incident with the Su-24. Erdogan is personally responsible for this incident. Personally. Since in our opinion it is a problem for the Turkish people. To grab their own journalists for revealing his vile deals is low. The usual unbelted dork, a coward - even Davotoglu looks more solid, taking responsibility for the downed plane. It is ridiculous to watch how the president of a regional Islamic state apologizes; lying lies twisted before the council of Christian powers. Yes, the Sultans of the Ottoman Empire are probably turning over in a coffin.
      1. +4
        27 November 2015 15: 33
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Yes, the Sultans of the Ottoman Empire are probably turning over in a coffin.

        They are probably turning over, although they were always enemies to us with their empire. I think all the ancestors are turning over - all the rulers have become smaller.
        1. +6
          27 November 2015 15: 52
          Is the German edition not from that Germany where Turkish cities already have quarters and districts? what else to expect from Germans who have corrupted their national identity!
      2. +1
        27 November 2015 15: 48
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Well, what to expect from the Ukrainians, they once again showed their rotten insides, and turned swan for handouts. We all Turkish people are neither enemies nor responsible for the incident with the Su-24. Erdogan is personally responsible for this incident. Personally. Since in our opinion it is a problem for the Turkish people. To grab their own journalists for revealing his vile deals is low. The usual unbelted dork, a coward - even Davotoglu looks more solid, taking responsibility for the downed plane. It is ridiculous to watch how the president of a regional Islamic state apologizes; lying lies twisted before the council of Christian powers. Yes, the Sultans of the Ottoman Empire are probably turning over in a coffin.

        Interesting comment, colleague. hi
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    6. +13
      27 November 2015 15: 15
      Quote: Sergey K.
      Lavrov is one of those people who, in short, correctly and in fact puts any opponent in his place.
    7. +1
      27 November 2015 15: 17
      the main thing is that it wouldn’t be like with the Ukrainians. we’ll extend the gas for a discount. we’ll extend the loan. we’ll forget the donbass. and the same balalaika didn’t start. You’ll look like the buch will go out and everything will unfreeze. You have to be a tough, principled and fair country . Said US Went erdogad. Means nah. And all. People for nothing were killed
      1. +3
        27 November 2015 15: 24
        Interestingly, what would the German media say now about Turkey if the German Air Force plane were shot down on the order of Ankara?
        Same as the French about ISIS. Until the fried rooster pecks, the brains of the Westerners do not work. Maybe they have a button there that presses on the brain? laughing
      2. +8
        27 November 2015 15: 44
        Honestly, I do not understand what purpose Erdogan pursued with such a provocation? What did you achieve?
        Shot down the plane, but what next, what did you want to show? Will Russia get scared and curtail the ATO? But it is naive to think so. In response, they received only the strengthening of the grouping of the RF Armed Forces: the strengthening of aviation, air defense, electronic warfare and what else would be "thought up" in the Kremlin. Show military strength to the world's first nuclear power is stupid.
        Maybe he thought with the Americans that Russia would start a war with the Turks, and they would close the straits in the Black Sea? Then Moscow and Tehran will land the corridor through the Kurds. And thereby strengthen the position of the Kurds, arming them (they will ask for something to replace the Kurds, I think that weapons and BC).
        Maybe Erdogan wanted to show how cool Turkey is? What can she do?
        In my opinion, Erdogan as a result harmed the country much more with this act than received the pluses. hi
    8. +3
      27 November 2015 15: 23
      It must be so.
      Lavrov: In connection with the current situation and the possibility of escalation of the conflict, the Foreign Ministry asks all Russian citizens who are in Turkey to immediately leave the country. The Russian Foreign Ministry also calls on other countries to warn their citizens about the danger of visiting Turkey in the coming days.
    9. +3
      27 November 2015 15: 24
      When there are no air forces, at least they will admire the Turkish
    10. +2
      27 November 2015 15: 33
      I was most impressed with the video. To the sounds of the Turkish bravura melody, are we afraid of them? It's time to land them!
      1. +3
        27 November 2015 16: 34
        Quote: ydjin
        I was most impressed with the video. To the sounds of the Turkish bravura melody, are we afraid of them? It's time to land them!

        Especially the F-4 Phantom planes are, let's say, not new at all, which the Americans wrote off from the 80s to the 90s.
        1. 0
          27 November 2015 20: 06
          Quote: APASUS
          Especially the F-4 Phantom planes are, let's say, not new at all, which the Americans wrote off from the 80s to the 90s.

          ------------------------
          In general, the impression of this dashing govnorolik with a tantalizing motive. They boast of old, but generously painted, flying trash in the form of F-4 Phantom, F-16, transporter S-130 Hercules ...
    11. +1
      27 November 2015 15: 47
      c400 must be leased to the Syrians for a week
    12. +2
      27 November 2015 16: 14
      The Air Force cannot boast of its own. NO, however.
  2. +13
    27 November 2015 15: 08
    Dill rages in the nets, overpowers celebrates. You can immediately see the memory of the guppy fish level, when last year several planes were knocked down, without any BUKs, F-16 and other things ... not themselves, so they say let them rejoice over their twin cities. wassat
    1. +4
      27 November 2015 15: 10
      Quote: kugelblitz
      Dill rages in the nets, overpowers celebrates.

      Well, if they themselves don’t have anything, they sit with their bare asses, at least rejoice at someone else’s. They simply don’t have other options.
    2. +15
      27 November 2015 15: 19
      And yet, we can remind the Germans that we have children who are still playing the war against the Nazis. So, just in case.
      1. +8
        27 November 2015 15: 26
        Quote: lelikas
        And yet, we can remind the Germans that we have children who are still playing the war against the Nazis. So, just in case.

        Perhaps, to the point and to the place.

        In principle, I agree with the Russians' assessment of the dumb attitude towards Turkey.
        My great-grandfather fought on the Danube in 1877, was awarded a medal.
        Probably, a negative attitude towards the Turks and Turkey was transmitted from him.
    3. 0
      27 November 2015 15: 56
      Dill rages in the nets, overpowers celebrates.

      Ukrainian
      ..the public is like a provincial who, having listened to the conversation of two diplomats belonging to hostile courtyards, would remain confident that each of them is deceiving his government in favor of the most tender mutual friendship
      M.Yu. Lermontov

      Next to his garden, the modern one ... sees nothing.
      Cucumber, lard, cowboy ...
      1. +5
        27 November 2015 16: 23
        The son is 9 years old. Looked at "Brest Fortress". Now runs with a pistol and a machine gun. "Hit the bastards !!!" "Who are you for? For the Soviets or for the Germans?" "No, I am for Russians!" And now he has so many questions for the Second World War. "Who are the fascists? Where is the Brest Fortress? Who else fought? And what kind of USSR is this?" Etc. etc.. hi
  3. +1
    27 November 2015 15: 10
    And who will now say that the attack was made by the Turks? I don’t believe in it anymore!
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  4. +3
    27 November 2015 15: 10
    Meanwhile, the Ukrainian users on the day of the attack by the Turkish interceptors of the Russian aircraft posted on the Internet a video called “Turkish air force in operation”. The video is presented by the so-called “All-Ukrainian Association of Volunteers”:

    War criminals found each other.
  5. +11
    27 November 2015 15: 11
    The authors of the article report that Vladimir Putin, claiming that Turkey stabbed in the back, "reanimated the deep-rooted image of a Turk waving a scimitar, who plunges a blade into the back for a piece of sausage."
    As the Germans are right, they look at the root. Yes, exactly, that is how the Turks always imagined. As they deserve, so they are. And the blade is pierced in the back, and for a lesser reason than the sausage. I think the Germans will learn this from their own experience.
    1. +12
      27 November 2015 15: 12
      Quote: avva2012
      The authors of the article report that Vladimir Putin, claiming that Turkey stabbed in the back, "reanimated the deep-rooted image of a Turk waving a scimitar, who plunges a blade into the back for a piece of sausage."
      As the Germans are right, they look at the root. Yes, exactly, that is how the Turks always imagined. As they deserve, so they are. And the blade is pierced in the back, and for a lesser reason than the sausage. I think the Germans will learn this from their own experience.
      1. +6
        27 November 2015 15: 17
        After all, the Turks are not drinkers, and there is enough hysteria in character.
    2. +5
      27 November 2015 15: 18
      Well, the Germans remember us, Turkey was their ally.
  6. +6
    27 November 2015 15: 12
    ISIS does not like dill, they are now a Turk love)))
  7. +6
    27 November 2015 15: 13
    The Germans are a dead nation, they are aging and dying in the near future in Germany will live mainly Turks Negro Arabs Poles and other abominations ...
    1. +1
      27 November 2015 15: 55
      Somehow the Poles in this series are superfluous. And the Germans, if they die out, are the last of the Western Europeans. The ethnic ridge of Western Europe, all the same, and on 1/4 Slavic roots, at least east of the line Rostock - (III) animals - Lipsk (Zig) - Drozdyany (en). Without the Germans in Europe there will be no one to talk to at all :)
  8. +8
    27 November 2015 15: 13
    Yes, games of tolerance do not lead to good. It is necessary to call things and people by their proper names and act with them as they deserve, and not endure tricks, then blacks, then believers, then sexual minorities, etc. Do not live by the law - in the furnace.
  9. +5
    27 November 2015 15: 14
    Crossed, so we must answer with dignity! We are waiting for the determination of our authorities! Yes, I spit on Turkish resorts, tomatoes and underpants! I feel sorry for the Power!
  10. +9
    27 November 2015 15: 16
    I hope the Russians will do so ... It is no good to rest in the camp of the enemies that kill our pilots!
    1. +1
      27 November 2015 15: 30
      Old anecdote:
      A poster at the artillery school - "Our GOAL is communism!" wink
  11. +5
    27 November 2015 15: 17
    We believe that the Turkish leadership has crossed the line of permissible.

    Well? What will be the answer?
    1. +5
      27 November 2015 15: 35
      You forget that our President is a lawyer by education! This means that a legal basis will be prepared, and then legally, in full compliance with international law and the legislation of the Russian Federation - there will be a "retaliation" and not in the back! It is too easy and expensive to plant "poplar" resorts!
      IMHO
      1. 0
        28 November 2015 03: 07
        Quote: engineer74
        a legal framework will be prepared, and then legally, in full accordance with international law and the legislation of the Russian Federation

        Slowly go down the hill and methodically re-ethos most of the herd !!! good fellow hi
    2. +11
      27 November 2015 15: 38
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Well? What will be the answer?

      But what if this one? .. Type 562 years of illegal occupation and all that ... winked lol
      1. +7
        27 November 2015 16: 08
        They would have avenged the plane first. And somehow you can’t believe it.

        (Poster repost from the comment of the user Monos http://topwar.ru/86910-erdogan-esli-kto-to-i-dolzhen-izvinitsya-to-tochno-ne-my.
        html # comment-id-5277415)
  12. +2
    27 November 2015 15: 18
    “Meanwhile, on the day of the Turkish interceptor attack on the Russian plane, Ukrainian users posted a video on the Internet called“ Turkish Air Force at Work. ”The video is presented by the so-called“ All-Ukrainian Association of Volunteers ”
    Something late "neighbors" zaganoshilis !!!
  13. +18
    27 November 2015 15: 18
    Are we demonizing the Turks? Is there too much honor ...
  14. +6
    27 November 2015 15: 19
    As it no longer catches on, what else are the Europeans soaking. Let the Germans begin to learn the Turkish language, otherwise, not even an hour later, in 10 years, they will become non-citizens in their country.
    1. +1
      27 November 2015 15: 31
      Then they will remember the Russians. The Turks will show them tolerance, and European values ​​in full glory, only give them free rein (during the Ottomans, in Turkey they loved boys in harems). Although, maybe ...
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  16. +3
    27 November 2015 15: 20
    Why look into the visor of all the outcasts to find out what they think? The main results! And the results of those who practice ridicule and desecration are completely absent. Russia acts consistently and hasn’t lost anything. Against the backdrop of deteriorating relations with some countries, we are making friends! The world is completely rebuilding, we are on the verge of great changes!
  17. +2
    27 November 2015 15: 21
    Quote: Denis DV
    ISIS does not like dill, they are now a Turk love)))

    Why? They are both loving and these ... they are these loving Ukrainians wassat
  18. +3
    27 November 2015 15: 25
    Quote: Kil 31
    Well, the Germans remember us, Turkey was their ally.

    Yes ally! The enemy is definitely not necessary with such an ally.
  19. -3
    27 November 2015 15: 26
    What is the language to chat now? It was necessary to answer immediately.
  20. +4
    27 November 2015 15: 29
    That's what free oil does to people! Banderia was also disintegrated with free energy resources. Not a horse feed. "How many wolves do not feed and the elephant still has a thicker reproductive organ" (c). Darmovshchinka - the whole religion turns out. Russia sends "beard", so they will find a "hairy pipe" to suck and not work. The ideology of parasitism and "love for money". Pig rocky out in gratitude floated that obamka gave nap. 300 million &. It is very similar to 30 pieces of silver. And hang ukrohunte like a Judas on an aspen!
  21. +4
    27 November 2015 15: 40
    I have a familiar Turk. In Russia for over 10 years. Married to Russian. Great man. Why should I hate him? For what? For the fact that the president of his homeland pi ...?
  22. +2
    27 November 2015 15: 43
    And why should the Turks not be demonized if we fought with them throughout history? The cleanliness of the media just rolls over.
  23. +2
    27 November 2015 15: 54
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    Ukrainians nits, why are they better than the Turks?

    And who says that they are better? Everyone knows: dill is WORSE worse than the Turks! bully
  24. +3
    27 November 2015 15: 58
    Quote: Pak_c_TonopoM
    Married to Russian. Great man.

    Great guy, because he is married to Russian.
  25. INF
    +1
    27 November 2015 17: 37
    I would like to hear Assad, saying that we close airspace anyway, so gentlemen, go to ...!
  26. -1
    27 November 2015 18: 07
    The most offensive thing is that Russia is always in the role of the defender. In this whole story, only one winner is the Americans. The Turkish Stream has sailed away, the construction of the nuclear power plant will freeze, relations have been ruined. ... The fate of the straits is in limbo. It's time to move from defense to offensive. How do the Afghan Taliban fighting ISIS differ from the moderate opposition in Syria? Nothing. It is worth raising the question of the fate of the Kurds in Turkey. Yes, and in Ukraine American soldiers, who are in violation of the Minsk treaties, may suddenly "accidentally" die. It will not be possible to hide the victims, because arrived officially. This means that Obama will have to make a decision to send troops to Ukraine during the campaign, which in any case will cause criticism from opponents in the first place. Secondly, the official introduction of troops (unofficially, and so it is) will lead to the fact that you will have to take over the whole of Ukraine. And this is not Georgia at all. Will have to spend. Thirdly, "smear" Turkey in ties with ISIS. It will be very difficult for the Turks to wash themselves after the terrorist attacks in France. But you can't sit and wait for another dirty trick from the "partners".
    1. +2
      27 November 2015 19: 37
      "Turkish Stream" sailed away, nuclear power plant construction will freeze

      The flow has long been covered, and with nuclear power plants such conditions are that thank God that it will freeze
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  28. +3
    27 November 2015 18: 44

    Mudach. E Svidomo, look here !!! Better look !!! Here are the true conquerors of the sky !!! And not the bearded husk !!! We have something to be proud of, and you?
  29. 0
    27 November 2015 19: 26
    Evona, how many anti-Turkish shouts rose. But I remember when the guarantor was frantically looking for where to stretch the pipe and turn the "Turkish Stream", the same faces shouted everything exactly the opposite, and when few sane people asked them questions, why is Turkey better than Ukraine and why are they so sure that everything will be fine with the Turks, we received answers from them like: "you do not understand anything, Turkey does not follow the lead of the EEC, Turkey is pursuing an independent policy, the Turks are our friends." What has suddenly changed? Has it changed at all? Weren't the Turks always like that? But no, a year ago there was no sense in understanding this among the Ur-Putriots, as well as their idol.
    1. +1
      27 November 2015 21: 46
      Friends are known ..... not immediately, like enemies hiding under the guise of a friend.
  30. +1
    27 November 2015 21: 21
    That's always the case when you don’t give change right away, then you go crap one's pants ..
  31. 0
    27 November 2015 22: 45
    I totally agree !!! Instead of the EB-T in response, we began to DAM THE PROTEST NOTES and to prove something to someone and complain! Who will respect us after this verbal panos ???????
  32. +1
    28 November 2015 00: 03
    Quote: ydjin
    I was most impressed with the video. To the sounds of the Turkish bravura melody, are we afraid of them? It's time to land them!

    When it is Russian Turks were afraid. Well, there was the Ottoman Empire, until it collided with the Russians. Maybe it's time to refresh the Turks' genetic memory.