Erdogan said Turkey will not “fan the incident” (with Su-24), but will continue to defend the rights of the “brothers”

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Turkish President Erdogan, who was silent like a fish the day before, made several statements at once about yesterday’s tragedy with the Russian Su-24, shot down by Turkish Air Force aircraft. At the same time, in his statements, Erdogan not only did not name what happened as a tragedy, but did not find the courage to apologize to Russia. RIA News cites a statement by the Turkish president, who hastened on the eve of hiding behind other NATO representatives:

Turkey has always advocated peace, dialogue, diplomatic settlement, and after that we will continue to do the same. But let no one expect us to remain deaf and blind to violating our space, our borders, our sovereignty. We have no thoughts to inflate this incident, we only protect our security and the rights of our brothers.


Erdogan said Turkey will not “fan the incident” (with Su-24), but will continue to defend the rights of the “brothers”


By “our brothers” Erdogan, apparently, understood the militants from the Syrian Turkmen groups, as well as the thugs from ISIL, thanks to whom Ankara feeds on cheap oil and has the ability to continue the bloodshed in Syria, solving its tasks also for the Kurds.

Erdogan once again assured everyone that the Russian plane was shot down in Turkish airspace, but it did not clarify how the Russian bomber in this situation threatened the security of Turkey. Or does Erdogan understand the security of Turkey solely as something associated with the support of international terrorism and the smuggling of hydrocarbons? ..

Recall that, according to the Ministry of Defense, the Su-24 RF VKS was attacked at a distance of 4 km from the Turkish border at an altitude of about 6 thousand meters. NATO was unable to confirm the words of Erdogan that a Russian plane violated Turkish airspace.
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  1. +120
    25 November 2015 12: 47
    Well, we will have to protect and help our Kurdish brothers. hi
    1. +126
      25 November 2015 12: 48
      not only did not call the incident a tragedy, but also did not find the courage to apologize to Russia.

      I don't need your apology! And to relatives and friends of our pilot killed by you! and the marine is also killed because of you!
      You think our squad will not notice the loss of a fighter!
      I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!
      1. +20
        25 November 2015 12: 50
        This stoop is not enough for this dog ...
        1. +48
          25 November 2015 13: 09
          Putin was most adequately restrained, even too much.
          P.E. certainly a repeat of the incident will mean the beginning of such actions, in which Turkish aircraft will fall, and the infrastructure will collapse (explode).

          By the way, according to the reaction of NATO countries, there is a very high probability that in the event of a conflict over Turkey they will not harness. Most likely this is what Erdagan was told at the emergency summit.
          Today, the air group is doubled and amounts to 69 aircraft. Plus the probability of the appearance of the S-400, our strategic aviation, so ... ..see.

          PS
          Turkey has already used its first / last right to make a mistake.
          1. +12
            25 November 2015 13: 13
            2012 year
            "Turkey's Abdullah Gul suggested that the fighter violated Syrian airspace due to its high flight speed.
            “Turkey cannot ignore the fact that Syria shot down our plane. Turkey is a strong country. And we will pause to clarify the details, and then we will take the necessary action. This is impossible to hide. Syria assures that the plane crossed the border in its territorial waters. It is normal for a jet to briefly enter the airspace of another country. When you think about how fast such aircraft fly over the sea, crossing borders a short distance, and then return, this is common, "he said."
          2. +17
            25 November 2015 13: 19
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            Plus the probability of the appearance of the S-400, our strategic aviation, so ... ..see.

            already.
            This morning:
            Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system will be deployed to the Khmeimim airbase in Syria.

            It's time to test the S-400 for military purposes

            -----------------------------
            At a meeting of the board of the ministry, participants honored the memory of the pilots with a minute of silence.
          3. +19
            25 November 2015 13: 35
            Putin was most adequately restrained, even too much.

            Yes, Vladimir Vladimirovich knows how to hold a blow, and only a steel look and walking nods betrayed how furious he was. Well, nothing will come soon and Erdogan’s chewing tie.
            1. +16
              25 November 2015 14: 04
              His brothers in the ravine donkey eat up.
              1. +4
                25 November 2015 15: 58
                "We will protect our brothers ... who staged the terrorist attacks in Paris and Egypt" I would like to see how he would look into the eyes of Putin and Oland alone.
                1. +3
                  25 November 2015 19: 03
                  If Turkey and its president are accomplices of terrorists, and it’s already open
                  violate the sovereignty of Russia and Syria, then with accomplices of terrorists
                  what are they doing?
          4. +2
            25 November 2015 13: 35
            None of NATO for Turkey will not harness! The US is simply pumping money out of NATO members. for membership. vparivatsya its weapons, etc. Example? In Lithuania, a Russian plane (it was this year) "violated the border" of Latvia. All armor on the ears. Americans. that we are OBLIGED as "defenders of the sky of our beloved NATO member. We drank calmly in a nearby institution. laughing
            1. +15
              25 November 2015 13: 57
              It will be funny if VVP tells Hollande at the meeting that "Erdogan must leave"!
              Turkey, like Ukraine, is now facing a "recession" (recession, stagnation). Well, hardly anyone wants to see him in Europe.
              NATO members, as intermediaries, are not suitable for smoothing out. He will run to Aliyev or Nazarbayev when he "comes" what he has done. Already declares that he did not know whose plane, naive.
              The Russian Federation now has an "excellent" reason to unfold in full in Syria. I mean a military base, no one can squeak now. No matter how Israel declares that their planes are "shocked". Now such pretensions are not clever. The Kremlin needs to fully squeeze out of the current situation. Ultimately, this "squeezing out" will not be sweet for the NATO members. Imagine that the RF Armed Forces will transfer the MiG-31, electronic warfare and air defense systems to Syria. Do NATO members need it? Erdogan will be extreme. Little did the EU shit with their anti-terrorist operation and the relationship with the RF Aerospace Forces, so still close to such a group to get? The Yankees have already understood where the Kremlin wind has blown, and will clearly be unhappy with such a base in the eastern Mediterranean. hi
          5. -3
            25 November 2015 15: 54
            Did they have a right to it?
          6. -1
            25 November 2015 19: 30
            Vladislav.

            And what in Turkey still has not cut off all the electricity by the REB systems?

            I am not me and REB is not mine.
        2. +13
          25 November 2015 13: 21
          Erdogan said Turkey will not “fan the incident” (with Su-24), but will continue to defend the rights of the “brothers”


          Ah HERE AS actually called the incident ... !!!

          It turns out that the initial screams about "protecting the borders" are just a cover for an act of aggression against Russia, which is destroying the "ISIS brothers" ... Sounds like an undisguised threat.

          So the cards are revealed Yes . What else is needed for us to take even tougher measures against the aggressor than those that announced the GDP?
          1. +1
            25 November 2015 14: 30
            Quote: Good Me
            but will continue to defend the rights of "brothers"

            Everything is said in these words in the quote. The Russian Aerospace Forces "kill" the Turkmans living in Syria and at the same time acting as weapons in their hands against Assad, it is quite possible that together with DAISH (as IS is called). So it turns out that Erdogan protects his brothers-bandits and his son's business, at the same time.
        3. +8
          25 November 2015 13: 27
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          This stoop is not enough for this dog ...

          Do not offend animals. This creature is more to the genus of nids, despite all the symbols.
          1. +36
            25 November 2015 13: 31
            Erdogan is a scoundrel and ...
        4. 0
          25 November 2015 21: 17
          Shoot this su (ba) ku.
      2. GDP
        +45
        25 November 2015 12: 53
        it seems that Erdogan is not all right with his head lately ... Having the Kurdish problem on the territory, and Isil on the borders. a hostile relationship with the Syrian government, and also with Russia enters into confrontation, on which Turkey is so dependent in the economic sphere ... It will not bring anything good to ordinary Turks. A politician must also understand when to saber and when to retreat ...

        Turkey is not an Ottoman Empire - covering the floor of the world. Obviously, he doesn’t want to understand this at all ...

        As a result, it will receive not an independent and strong Turkey, but at best a US colony with a destroyed economy and civil war on its territory ...
        1. mad
          +34
          25 November 2015 12: 55
          Quote: GDP
          the feeling that Erdogan is not all right with his head


          Erdogan must leave! ©
          1. +16
            25 November 2015 13: 00
            Quote: mad
            Quote: GDP
            the feeling that Erdogan is not all right with his head


            Erdogan must leave! ©

            To the count of the demon! am
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            2. +10
              25 November 2015 13: 21
              Quote: mad
              Quote: GDP
              the feeling that Erdogan is not all right with his head


              Erdogan must leave! ©

              ...... Absolutely .....
            3. 0
              25 November 2015 21: 29
              I would say this: Erdogan in pork skin. Well, of course, where without it. am
          2. +20
            25 November 2015 13: 07
            Quote: mad
            Erdogan must leave!

            To a different world and the faster, the better for Turkey.
          3. +16
            25 November 2015 13: 09
            Erdogan is a corrupt dictator who does not respect human rights and democratic procedures. Erodogan has lost legitimacy in the eyes of the world community. Erdogan used disproportionate force to disperse peaceful demonstrators. Turkey without Erdogan!
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          5. +27
            25 November 2015 13: 24
            Erdogan must leave!
            Erdogan must leave!
            Erdogan must leave!
            This is a symmetrical answer. This is what we need to answer the talk that Assad has to leave.
            Erdogan is harmful to the Turkish people and the Turkish economy; it is a destabilizing factor for Turkey. He is an accomplice to terrorism. He is stealing oil. He is an aggressor and a vile killer from around the corner!
            Erdogan must leave!
            Erdogan must leave!
            1. +1
              25 November 2015 15: 33
              Quote: diz1975
              Erdogan must go! Erdogan must go! Erdogan must go!
              Into another world! another world! another world!
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        2. +9
          25 November 2015 13: 11
          Quote: GDP
          Erdogan is not all right with his head

          of course! bombed such a loot! here hysteria is not the right word ...
        3. +4
          25 November 2015 13: 41
          Quote: GDP
          it seems that Erdogan is not all right with his head lately ...

          He blocked the free oil channel from the IG, thanks to the revenue with which he wins the election. Obviously, he has long been accustomed to consider oil fields in the north of Syria as his property
      3. +2
        25 November 2015 12: 53
        Quote: Baikonur
        I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!

        -------------------
        Apricot (abrek) eats a peach ... Gygygy ...
        1. -3
          25 November 2015 13: 19
          Quote: Altona
          Quote: Baikonur
          I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!

          -------------------
          Apricot (abrek) eats a peach ... Gygygy ...

          Quote: Dyatko Nebatko
          Nectarine...

          -------------------------
          And minors for ISIS apparently do not consider Erdogan an abrek? Well, we mean 7 potential traitors on the site ...
          1. +8
            25 November 2015 13: 41
            Quote: Altona
            do not consider Erdogan an abrek?

            Erdogan is not "abrek" ("abrag"), maybe a.-man, gone to the mountainsliving outside power and law, leading a guerrilla-robber lifestyle; originally a Caucasian highlander, expelled from his midst for a crime, usually murder.
            Erdogan-Bashibuzuk (başıbozuk)





            / And all of them bb-ki

            were shit, shit and stayed:

            Ermeni Kırımı - Armenian massacre; The Great Crime
            And not any "Nuremberg"





            V.S. Pikul in "Bayazet" well described
            1. +1
              25 November 2015 15: 26
              Quote: opus
              originally a Caucasian highlander, expelled from his midst for a crime, usually murder.
              Erdogan-Bashibuzuk (başıbozuk)

              ----------------------
              What's the difference? He committed the murder, among high politicians he is on the verge of "exile". You yourself described everything correctly, but decided to be smart and call Erdogan an allegedly authentic name. What if I name it in other languages? "Abrek" or "apricot" is a derogatory nickname for people from the Caucasus who walk in a crowd and do not take responsibility for their words, and this is part of the army and street jargon. And you got into some kind of complex genesis.
              PS Well, I myself served in the Caucasus, I will call Erdogan the word "BOZ" ... I'll see how many more "smart guys" will come running to Erdogan's legal profession ...
              1. +4
                25 November 2015 15: 44
                Quote: Altona
                And the difference is what?

                in it
                Quote: opus
                exiled hailing from their midst for a crime

                1. Until they expelled.
                2. His family will NEVER recognize the downing of the SU-24 as a crime (they will not recognize the genocide of the Armenians, even if the number is comic)
                3. The Turk was never called abreks, but this is the "privilege" of our Caucasians. Why offend the Caucasian people?


                Quote: Altona
                but decided to be smart

                it makes no sense for me to "be smart" and to prove something.
                It is a fact
                Quote: Altona
                PS Well, I myself served in the Caucasus, I will call Erdogan the word "BOZ".

                - call it what you want.
                -can call chock, apricot, even poop.
                And Barack Obama - Paleface.
                what will it give and what will it change?
                - did not serve in the Caucasus, but the "brothers" served. And what?
                Turks will never be called abreks
                Quote: Altona
                I'll see how many more "smart guys"

                Do you have any kind of complex?
                1. -5
                  25 November 2015 16: 12
                  Quote: opus
                  Do you have any kind of complex?

                  -----------------------
                  Who cares? As I want, I’ll call it ... It’s not your business and you don’t have to be clever, they explained everything to you ...
                  1. +2
                    25 November 2015 16: 27
                    Quote: Altona
                    It’s none of your business and you shouldn’t be clever, everyone explained to you ...

                    Wrote the same
                    Quote: Altona
                    - call it what you want.

                    Are you that dumb, or what? or arrogance rushing?

                    Quote: Altona
                    and don’t have to be clever, they explained everything to you ...

                    1.You did not ask what should I do

                    2. I do not need your explanations. Yes, and this is not an explanation, but arrogant nonsense
                    Yes, this confirms:
                    Quote: Altona
                    Well, we mean 7 potential traitors on the site ...

                    Syndrome informer-Komsyuk not get rid of?
      4. +3
        25 November 2015 12: 55
        Nectarine...
      5. +24
        25 November 2015 12: 56
        ...... we only protect our safety and the rights of our brothers.

        Your brother is a mad dog, and you are an old donkey with cancer, who has decided so far in power to pull his little sons to the sale of bloody oil of a foreign country! I don’t know how in Islam, but I think that it is also written down, but in our religion the Lord said: BY YOUR BUSINESS, AZ AGAIN! So do not seek, the creaky ferret will be rewarded in full, and as Godunov will have: - And the pilots are bloody in the eyes! - come at night! am
      6. +5
        25 November 2015 13: 04
        Here are the stick trees, but I thought it was a sinful thing to think that he supports pschek, helps them with the sale of apples ... In short, let this peach stand in his throat when he goes ... ..
      7. +3
        25 November 2015 13: 39
        Quote: Baikonur
        I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!


        ..he plans to put a bone to death ... trainer ....
      8. +1
        25 November 2015 14: 49
        Quote: Baikonur
        I would hammer you


        an ice ax needs him
      9. 0
        25 November 2015 15: 32
        I wouldn’t hammer a peach in my mouth, but put a hammer in the ass so that the peach chokes.
        My question is: So already have C-400 at our Khmeimim airbase or will it just be brought? Different information just wanders, that is, then no.
      10. +4
        25 November 2015 16: 33
        Quote: Baikonur
        I don't need your apology! And to relatives and friends of our pilot killed by you! and

        He already included the return flow at the International Islamic Economic Congress in Istanbul.


        Erdogan: "The Turkish Air Force did not know during the attack on the Su-24 that it was Russian "belay

        "The fact that the plane belongs to the Russian Federation became clear only after the Russian authorities announced it."- said Erdogan.



        According to Yuri Baluevsky, now it’s necessary Guided by Article 51 of the UN Charter (“The Right to Self-Defense”), use weapons against those who, in fact, encroached on Russia's sovereignty, on specific Russian citizens, on our pilots.

        ===================================
        chew on his ties:




        and Erdogan’s son doesn’t get dirty money for the export of oil Isil
    2. +28
      25 November 2015 12: 51
      I believe that as soon as the export of Turkish goods to Russia decreases sharply, it will sober up a little.
      In general, it keeps a hard face of a politician with bad cards.
      I hope he realized that he was stupidly framed by both NATO and the US and the EU. There are no screams of indignant public in Europe and so on. But Erdogan’s oil business was over - there wouldn’t be any stone left from all fuel trucks there. Quite a junk. Well, since EW nevertheless covered Syria, it was now completely dangerous for the Turks to fly there.
      In short, the Turks, you have been raped.
      PS Poland ate apples. Now Turkey is drunk with peaches. Erdogan, get started!
      1. +5
        25 November 2015 12: 56
        Quote: Metallurg
        In general, it keeps a hard face of a politician with bad cards.

        ----------------------
        Probably he wanted to show himself as "a man of tough decisions" like Putin, but in the end he got a giddy mess ... Even high friends from NATO and the United States did not help, and could not help. Because all the media trumpeted that the son is a big smuggler of stolen oil and has a gesheft from IS ...
      2. +32
        25 November 2015 13: 03
        How the US attitude to military planning differs from Russia is that they always provide an overwhelming advantage in the war zone, they customize an aircraft carrier, submarines, transfer hundreds of planes to the next land airports, everyone laughs at them, because of this, but practically such there are no cases, but on the contrary, minimalism comes first, everything is done to a minimum, which prevented the S-300B4 or S-400 from being transferred earlier to Syria, so that it would be possible to immediately shoot down the F-16 in response? Or maybe they would not have dared to attack if they detected the S-300B4 / S-400 radar ?. What prevented the additional Su-30SM and Su-35 from being thrown there? Yes, and there is nothing to do with the Su-24, Russia has 78 like the Su-34. Why not use the Su-34 in Syria and leave the Su-24 in Russia (the Su-34 has an on-board electronic warfare system, powerful radar and the ability to carry air-to-air missiles)?
        And if we are not talking about the Su-24, what kind of electronic warfare was installed on them (at least there would be some chance to survive in the aircraft)? They have been modernizing it for a year now, and all hands haven’t reached EW ... While they are modernizing, is the modernization plan apparently outdated?
        Where are the praised overhead containers of the Khibiny EW at the Su-24? Which carry on exhibitions, but something is not visible in the videoconferencing ...
        1. +20
          25 November 2015 13: 17
          I understand your emotions, in other matters, like the rest ((
          1) IGSN soundwinder is neutral, it follows a thermal signature .. therefore, if there was "visual" contact when starting from f -16, then the irradiation warning system (Birch - like) will not work. A blow, really from a subtlety ((
          2) we considered them, at the very least, "allies" .... (
          3) the problem was (see point 2) that the Su-24 went without cover ... There was a "free hunt" for daish ..
          4) Su - 24, not a universal "fighter" .., he is an "outdated" fighter, on the ground. With the f-16, without an appropriate suspension, and even more so a task / plan, he cannot fight ... There were no special fears. It seems like with NATO, everything was discussed and agreed upon.
          5) This is purely a set-up of "partners". (

          Very sad and sad to hear about it! (
        2. +7
          25 November 2015 13: 23
          practically no such cases happen with the USA
          Are you absolutely sure about this? I once read an analysis of real US losses in Iraq. Not so invulnerable they look. This is considering that anti-tank and air defense systems in Iraq were not the latest. Do you remember Yugoslavia? Do you know how the Serbs opposed NATO aircraft? Using microwaves.
          What prevented the transfer
          Initially, the operation in Syria was planned as limited in time and scope. So, by the way, after a while ships were required to increase the volume of priority supplies. Plus, it was necessary to support the Syrian army, which was drained of blood. So the air defense systems, even in this logistics, were completely redundant. An agreement with NATO was reached. I remember very well how two months ago analysts (including here on the website) laughed that ours had brought up the Moskva cruiser with air defense and electronic warfare equipment - they say that IS has no planes. The appearance of air defense systems at the IG was expected, but not aircraft! The aircraft listed by you all have a different purpose. As an Air Force reserve lieutenant, you shouldn't be embarrassed that they are all SUs? The problem with what happened is that Russia is playing by the rules, but not with it. If there were S-300, 400, or even 500, they would still find a way to provoke against Russia, and precisely there and then, where they could not adequately respond.
        3. +7
          25 November 2015 13: 48
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          what prevented the earlier transfer of C-300В4 or С-400 to Syria
          Half-hearted measures and belated decisions, both with the anti-constitutional coup in Kiev and with military assistance from Syria. Our S-300s were supposed to have been delivered to Assad's armies for a long time, but at first they obediently froze the agreements already reached because of the "sanctions", then, because of the concerns of our Israeli friends. What's stopping us? Capitalism, selfish interests of oligarchs, dependence on other people's rules of the game, which Russia obediently observes, flesh to the imposed supremacy of international law over Russian laws. What the Turks did by shooting down a Russian combat aircraft, and even in the sky of a foreign country for them, it is impossible to imagine unpunished, if the United States were in place of Russia, even small North Korea. We called it an "unfriendly act". The slaves that posted on the network how they fired at our pilots fleeing by parachutes, for Turkey and the United States, the "moderate opposition" that has the right to defend ... tourists should refrain from traveling to Turkey and maybe Russia will decide to stop buying Turkish vegetables. Will they give us victory in Syria, with any of our "tolerance", if Turkey's brazen provocation is aimed at aggravating relations, with a possible pretext for blocking the straits or restricting the passage of our warships ... on the border with Crimea, all these are links of one US game and our mistakes, lost time, opportunities, half-hearted decisions. "Syria has not yet fallen," if "the winner is not the one," then who will be? The rallying of the entire nation, the tension of all of Russia is now important, and how our leadership will behave further will determine not only the fate of the military operation in Syria, but also the fate of Russia and the whole world.
        4. +1
          25 November 2015 14: 51
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          How the US attitude to military planning differs from Russia is that they always provide an overwhelming advantage in the war zone, they customize an aircraft carrier, submarines, transfer hundreds of planes to the next land airports, everyone laughs at them, because of this, but with the USA practically

          -we just don’t have so many resources
          - if there were, then through the neck of the Dardanelles / Juosphorus not to be dragged in at such a time (you need at least 0,5 years), during this time Assad would be overthrown
          -we have no "nearest" airfields and bases, except for the Syrian
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          everything is done to a minimum, which prevented the earlier transfer of the S-300B4 or S-400 to Syria, so that you could immediately shoot down the F-16 in response?

          Samim (SAM) is not enough
          -do not have time
          -against who? (no one imagined the dirty trick of the Turks), all the "partners" would howl
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          Yes, and there is nothing to do with the Su-24, Russia has 78 like the Su-34. Why not use the Su-34 in Syria and leave the Su-24 in Russia (the Su-34 has an on-board electronic warfare system, powerful radar and the ability to carry air-to-air missiles)?

          -there were supposed goals that would have sufed the Su-25: the SU-34 is normally operating hours, the resource will be worked out for simple tasks
          -SU-34 and electronic warfare all the same would be destroyed by the F-16 (especially a couple) in case of a sudden attack in the rear hemisphere
        5. 0
          25 November 2015 15: 52
          But American planes and helicopters also shoot down.
    3. +12
      25 November 2015 12: 56
      Erdogan, now let him protect his point, cattle base.
    4. +7
      25 November 2015 12: 57
      Quote: yushch
      Well, we will have to protect and help our Kurdish brothers. hi

      Yeah. Already defended. S-300 is being transferred and MOSCOW has approached. Turks are afraid to raise planes at the border. and rightly so. Drop. I think the northern border has become flightless for NATO.
      ps. The main thing was that they saved one pilot ... I can imagine what he thinks and how he will fight now. Let them tremble ........ And the Kurds must be taken under their wing. MANPADS they really need !!!!
    5. +18
      25 November 2015 12: 57
      Yes, spit us that there Erdogan said that he said. I am sure that in Moscow everything has already been decided on it. It's time to chew a tie, Mr. President, or, well, as an option, you can go to the mayors of Odessa laughing
    6. +17
      25 November 2015 13: 01
      Quote: yushch
      Well, we will have to protect and help our Kurdish brothers. hi

      ... and the Armenians should be helped to return their original lands and Mount Ararat
    7. +6
      25 November 2015 13: 06
      May she didn’t understand the adnak!
      that he will cover the brothers with ig will be?
      here it is the face of an accomplice of terrorists !!!
    8. +5
      25 November 2015 13: 10
      We just now realized that our brothers Kurds and Khokh = ly are relatives of Isil and other Turks. So we will help our brothers with weapons of MANPADS and other equipment so that the Turks soon come to Peace and ruin the life of the Ukrainians by withdrawing finances from the subsidiaries of banks of the Russian Federation, cutting off energy supplies and introducing a food embargo, and more ...
    9. +4
      25 November 2015 13: 14
      yes, to defend ourselves, and in order to protect, put a couple of C-300 divisions in Syria, the C-300 division of Cyprus, you can also throw something up-to-date in Armenia, and declare the whole territory of Turkey as a demon flight zone.
    10. +8
      25 November 2015 13: 14
      Quote: yushch
      Well, we will have to protect and help our Kurdish brothers. hi

      I think Erdogan’s policy is coming to an end, as well as the Turkish caliphate. Anyone can support the Turks, but I don’t think that the Turks will take our steps back. It’s impossible to forget the conflict. I’m surprised if some of our submarines of the Black Sea Fleet do not work out on an oil tanker in the near future, blocking this vessel's access to other ships at sea.
    11. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 14
      Russian and Kurd - brothers forever!
      1. -1
        25 November 2015 15: 42
        I have not heard that before. With whom we were not just brothers. But as soon as we face them, they are to us ...
    12. +6
      25 November 2015 13: 23
      Video from the scene of the rescue operation:

    13. +2
      25 November 2015 13: 24
      And the dictator Erdogan must leave!
    14. +3
      25 November 2015 13: 42
      It’s exactly how they go to the Kurds in Syrian territory, soak so that not a single jackal comes back.
    15. 0
      25 November 2015 14: 13
      Everything is just beginning! Puzzles are gathering together. The Lord, partners, have planned a very serious, not good disgust. Now you need to be ready for everything! And this freaking chain dog is ahead of the whole engine. We will not forget! We will not forgive! Our business is just! The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!
    16. +1
      25 November 2015 14: 15
      Erdogan said Turkey will not “fan the incident” (with Su-24), but will continue to defend the rights of the “brothers”

      AND NOT ANY APOLOGY, NOTHING !!!
    17. +1
      25 November 2015 14: 48
      Looking at the photo I want to say - "So that you choke ubl ... doc!"

      He decided to protect the "brothers", jackal, soon a skiff will come to your so-called "brothers".
    18. 0
      25 November 2015 18: 58
      All these NATO countries behave exactly like domestic mongrels. When one dog he pulls its tail and caresses, and its eyes are so harmless that you want to stroke. But if the same dog feels that the owner is nearby, he will bite and tail his tail to the owner. And if shAvok they throw a lot, but with caution. Cowardice however. Nothing dear reminds you?
    19. 0
      25 November 2015 20: 38
      `` Turkish President Erdogan: We have no thoughts to exaggerate this incident. '' Something I didn't understand, did we crash their plane and didn't apologize?
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  3. +8
    25 November 2015 12: 50
    I wanted to write simple-damp .. write too few words in the comment ... I’ll write ,, double damp ,,,
  4. +2
    25 November 2015 12: 50
    Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are. And then brother ...
    1. +30
      25 November 2015 12: 53
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/242/xjux820.png
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  5. +17
    25 November 2015 12: 50
    Attacked at a distance of 1km, and fell by 4km. Burn all caravans of oil carriers, and so that no car could cross the border anymore.
    1. +18
      25 November 2015 12: 54
      Quote: Borets
      Attacked at a distance of 1km, and fell by 4km. Burn all caravans of oil carriers, and so that no car could cross the border anymore.

      Why chase oil carriers? In my opinion it’s much easier to mine oil mines
      1. +11
        25 November 2015 13: 09
        Quote: atalef
        Why chase oil carriers?

        Sanya, do you feel sorry for the bombs? And enough for the mines and the bearded.
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        2. +1
          25 November 2015 13: 25
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          Why chase oil carriers?

          Sanya, do you feel sorry for the bombs? And enough for the mines and the bearded.

          You understand if the result is the same. why spend more?
          1. +3
            25 November 2015 13: 39
            Quote: atalef
            You understand if the result is the same. why spend more?

            Well, Sanya, what really is it. Let it burn.
        3. +3
          25 November 2015 13: 40
          = Alexander Romanov ... Sanya, are you sorry for the bombs? And enough for the mines and for the bearded

          Yeah! Judging by the appearance of the bomb (rusty streaks), on which the inscription "For Paris" was written, there was a lot of this "good".
          Such "utilization" has a multi-vector positivity.
        4. +2
          25 November 2015 14: 21
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Sanya, do you feel sorry for the bombs? And enough for the mines and the bearded.
          He just doesn’t feel sorry for the bombs ... he is sorry that when peaceful life begins in Syria, then the Syrians, and maybe Russia will part of it, will get undestructed infrastructure ...

          Because, feeling that they are losing, the mattresses are bombing the peaceful infrastructure, and not the ISIS and others like them, in order to leave, leaving the enemy scorched earth ...
          1. 0
            25 November 2015 15: 12
            Alas, in the near future there is no actual opportunity to recapture oil fields. The forces of the Syrian army during the war years are seriously depleted, even with our support it is difficult for them to carry out massive operations, and then also hold on to the conquered. So, it’s worth bombing, waiting for the Igil-Turks to restore them (and they will definitely restore them), and then once again sag. Thus, at least somehow patting their wallet, the most vulnerable spot.
          2. 0
            25 November 2015 15: 12
            Alas, in the near future there is no actual opportunity to recapture oil fields. The forces of the Syrian army during the war years are seriously depleted, even with our support it is difficult for them to carry out massive operations, and then also hold on to the conquered. So, it’s worth bombing, waiting for the Igil-Turks to restore them (and they will definitely restore them), and then once again sag. Thus, at least somehow patting their wallet, the most vulnerable spot.
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      2. +9
        25 November 2015 13: 11
        They will then need to be restored.
        1. +2
          25 November 2015 13: 21
          Strange we are fighting in Syria from the base in Latakia to the place where our Su-24 was shot down only 47,8 kilometers (very close by aviation standards), and ours could not cover ...
          1. +1
            25 November 2015 13: 56
            So he fired and immediately left. A second matter.
          2. +2
            25 November 2015 15: 00
            Lt. air force reserve ... It's strange we are fighting in Syria from the base in Latakia to the place where our Su-24 was shot down only 47,8 kilometers (very close by aviation standards), and ours could not cover ...

            The President said "stab in the back." It turns out that the "partnership" relations with Turkey have been overestimated. Relaxed.
            Forgot your story. Turks have always been treacherous.
      3. +6
        25 November 2015 13: 27
        It seems to cause enormous damage to the environment, since they will burn for a very long time, and no one will go to extinguish. We (Russia) will then be responsible for this. In addition, the mines will come in handy later, but the caravans and the Daesh infrastructure must be destroyed. I can not argue with that
      4. +3
        25 November 2015 15: 27
        Quote: atalef
        Why chase oil carriers? In my opinion it’s much easier to mine oil mines

        what stupidity! fool
        1.And will Syria (for itself) then buy oil and oil products in Turkey, Iraq and Israel?
        After what was done to her economy?
        Restore a well- months, or years (Kuwait, Iraq)
        Buy fuel truck daily
        Restore roadbed-clock

        2. Recovery cost
        Kuwaiti state-owned company KPC signed a contract with American Fluor and South Korean SK Engineering and Construction for the restoration of Raudhatain wells destroyed by a fire in January 2002. The amount of the contract is 237 million dollars., including foreign companies will invest 107 million. After restoration work, production at the field will increase from 280 to 380 thousand barrels per day, and the capacity of all oil fields in northern Kuwait will increase to 600 thousand barrels per day.

        The cost of a used fuel truck is from 40000

        3.A slaves that plow in oil production, in the wells that control ISIS?
        Should burn out?
        "cheaper"?
        Of course:
        -napalm was used by Israel during the six-day war of 1967 and during the hostilities in Lebanon in the 1980s
        -In Gaza, white phosphorus was used by Israel in residential areas (or lie?)
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  6. +7
    25 November 2015 12: 50
    Pull you up bastard ......
  7. +51
    25 November 2015 12: 50
    Turks and their temper began with samog! ;)
  8. +6
    25 November 2015 12: 50
    You will have an accordion and a whistle, as well as relatives, we will not deprive ..
  9. +5
    25 November 2015 12: 51
    Does he have margarine in his head? I suggest that we bring down a Turkish plane, and then make the same statement ....
    1. +2
      25 November 2015 13: 21
      I’ll clarify - two is better. Again - in Syria.
  10. +19
    25 November 2015 12: 51
    They will not "blow up the incident"? Is it that we shot down a Turkish plane? They were completely morose.
    Erdogan also stated that they did not know that the plane was Russian. As if others are flying there. Something I did not hear that ISIS had planes.
    1. +14
      25 November 2015 13: 12
      Quote: EvgNik
      Something I did not hear that ISIS had planes.

      Now, apparently, there is, starting with the F-16 shot down our DRY.
  11. +6
    25 November 2015 12: 52
    The enemy, he is the enemy. Have you been expecting anything else from him?
    Especially in a situation like: "... well, who is on us with NATO?"
    Moor has done his job ....
  12. +2
    25 November 2015 12: 52
    terrorists and their accomplices to the campaign only calm down in the ground! then this eccentric with the letter "M" will be another dirty trick, I hope ours will not miss!
  13. +2
    25 November 2015 12: 52
    Erdoganchik, don’t say anything, just eat ...
  14. +15
    25 November 2015 12: 52
    We know who Erdogan otmazyvatsya!
    1. +4
      25 November 2015 13: 08
      Turkey has always been a terrorist state, from the very beginning, from the moment of its formation, time has passed, but nothing has changed.
  15. +5
    25 November 2015 12: 52
    Turkish President Erdogan, who was silent like a fish the day before, made several statements at once about yesterday’s tragedy with the Russian Su-24, shot down by Turkish air forces. Moreover, in his statements, Erdogan not only did not call the incident a tragedy, but also did not find the courage to apologize to Russia


    Response to the killing of our people not followed, so he grew bolder, unfortunately other animals, too. Everything that will be "answered" later - it will be -then. And it was necessary to answer, right away, otherwise respect and fear, pass, IMHO ....
    1. +5
      25 November 2015 12: 57
      There are our 10 people. They’ll take them out and answer for everything at once!
    2. +6
      25 November 2015 12: 58
      And I had to answer right away,

      It was necessary, but with what? To raze a couple of Turkish Air Force bases to the ground? Nothing, the answer will come in the form of economic losses. In addition, the "Moscow" was brought there and the air defense system will be brought to Khmeimim. The southern part of Turkey will be at a glance.
      The truth here is the information that the mountains where our pilot was killed are already burning.
      In any case, now no matter how much this Turk puffs up, they will follow abroad. And burn all oil tankers. Hello son, Turkish bastard.
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      2. +7
        25 November 2015 13: 06
        Quote: Wedmak
        The truth here is the information that the mountains where our pilot was killed are already burning.


        These Erdagan "brothers" about whom he is sick and mentions, and it was necessary to burnrevealing, scary and-immediatelyso that he becomes even more painful
  16. +3
    25 November 2015 12: 53
    maybe ours can supply missiles to Greece for lease. The troopers didn’t intrude into the Greek airspace not so long ago. What’s humanitarian aid to the free people.
  17. +4
    25 November 2015 12: 54
    and the rights of our brothers

    Since your brothers are from the jackal family, it’s obvious who you are. Meanness, greed and cowardice have already shown in full.
  18. +4
    25 November 2015 12: 54
    Well, well ... now you’ll be afraid of the Kurds bombing even on your territory.
  19. +20
    25 November 2015 12: 54
    I previously wrote a lot on the site in favor of sobriety and the adequacy of the Turkish leadership. I was wrong. I take all my positive feedback about the Turkish leaders back.
    Previously, Turkey was not our friend, but now it strives to become an enemy with all its might.
  20. +5
    25 November 2015 12: 54
    With a plane crash, he drove his brothers to the graves!
  21. +4
    25 November 2015 12: 55
    What the fuck, he still graciously agrees not to fan the deal with the SU-24. Break on all fronts Erdogashke: financial, political .. etc. Arrange him a hybrid bath with an enema
  22. +8
    25 November 2015 12: 55
    Insolent Basurman! But the Russians themselves are to blame. Here is sea, gas, vegetables, fruits. What’s the reason for building a Basurman from nuclear power plants? How many times have you fought with the Turks and taught nothing? The Tatars and Caucasian Islamists supplied with money and weapons, treated, stole. Here and got quite ...... old friends with non-Christians made friendships.
    1. +17
      25 November 2015 12: 59
      Bulgaria (officially), as it were, to put it mildly, also behaves in a non-friendly way towards us. And what is the fault of the Russians that they shoot in the back? Or we had to wait until ISIS came to the Caucasus in the army (and by the way, too). In short, someone would have a cow mumbled. Brothers b ... t.
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    3. +10
      25 November 2015 13: 01
      With the Bulgarians we are not on the same path - they betray us every time. Betrayed time, betray and again! The whole history of relations between Bulgaria and Russia speaks for it! And the Turks will get what they deserve - you have no doubt ....
    4. +8
      25 November 2015 13: 10
      "... But the Russians themselves are guilty ..."
      This is what the Russians are to blame again for ?! Before the Bulgarians, it was not enough to make excuses yet! "Brothers", your mother ... am
    5. -1
      25 November 2015 13: 30
      And Belarusians are not to blame for the fact that all smuggling in the Russian Federation comes from Belarus for products from the EU !?
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    7. +3
      25 November 2015 13: 34
      I apologize. I note that both Bulgaria and Turkey are members of NATO. How so, Bulgarians? I think you don’t have to tell a story about the Ottoman Empire. That's because there is a Master, and under his wing both Bulgaria and Turkey are good. Why is Bulgaria refusing economic projects with Russia? Based on your logic - because they are enemies and always have been. Everything was done correctly by our leadership. The stronger the economic ties, the less likely the conflict, in any case, in the hot phase. But only in one case. When the country's leadership cares not about its personal well-being, but about the country's interests. Sorry, I can’t say this either about Turkey or Bulgaria.
    8. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 41
      And what is Bulgaria different from Turkey ??? The policy of prostitution is exactly the same. (This does not apply to all citizens)
    9. +2
      25 November 2015 13: 45
      Bulgarians ... with your attitude towards Russia, we do not need any enemies ... "brothers" suck
  23. +6
    25 November 2015 12: 55
    Instead of a peach, put the stinky black man in your mouth
    1. +4
      25 November 2015 13: 16
      Quote: as150505
      Instead of a peach, put the stinky black man in your mouth

      He is training (preparing mentally).
  24. +4
    25 November 2015 12: 56
    Erdogan says that he will continue to support these Turkoman, which means that the probability that he will provide us with the right to revenge is very high. He is very impatient to get to know our air defense systems closer.
  25. +3
    25 November 2015 12: 57
    Erdogan - don't break your teeth
  26. +16
    25 November 2015 12: 57
    "will continue to defend the rights of" brothers "" One of the sons of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Bilal Erdogan, plays a big role in the oil business of Turkey and ISIS. Photos appeared in the media in which the son of the Turkish leader poses next to the field commanders of the Islamists. Business is nothing personal!
    1. +7
      25 November 2015 13: 45
      Already wrote and will write again: Erdogan’s son in expense. Bilal Erdogan must die for the dead pilot. Do not pull.
  27. +14
    25 November 2015 12: 57
    Erdogan is now a war criminal and the Air Force of this country puts Turkey in a number of criminal states, no matter how they justify themselves. How else? They illegally enrich themselves by buying stolen oil and valuables from terrorists, while at the same time supporting these bandits in every possible way, even considering them also brothers and trying to prove to everyone that they are right!
  28. +6
    25 November 2015 12: 57
    How much to inflate already blew crap on his head. The supply of Turkish chicken was stopped by Russia, the first swallow went. The S-400 is being taken to Lataki, so that this suicide would be more convenient to defend the interests of "his brotherhoods" angry
  29. +4
    25 November 2015 12: 58
    They no longer hide the talk of supporting terrorism (gangs and the Islamic State), and the tolerant world is only drumming their tongues into the empty drum. Here it is the true face of the West.
  30. +7
    25 November 2015 12: 58
    We have no thoughts to fan this incident.
    Those. the Turks will not bill us for the fuel burned by the fighter and the rocket, as well as for the oil that was not delivered by the militants. IT'S COOL. It’s clear that he has only "prompts" from Poroshenko.
  31. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 00
    Right, right, well done Erdogan. It leads directly to the destruction of both Turkey and the allies.
  32. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 00
    We will hardly see such a phenomenon as the "cock jackal".
  33. +7
    25 November 2015 13: 00
    There is no forgiveness to the leadership of Turkey! Historically, Turkey was an adversary of Russia, unfortunately it remained such.
  34. +5
    25 November 2015 13: 01
    Heh! Edrogan behaves like a woman. Himself started a boil, and now "Oh, everything!" laughing
    1. +6
      25 November 2015 13: 14
      And he didn’t say "Oh, everything!" He made a mistake and smiles. After all, the answer never came. And NATO said that it was like "we are not in business", but there were no answers anyway. But now everyone saw that since a NATO member, you can play pranks and you will not be punished. The (Ukrainian) svidomites will now with double zeal talk about joining NATO.
      The cessation of tourism, the freezing of economic and all sorts of other relations, the possible help to the Kurds, is all well and good. Only the answer should have been different and everyone was waiting for it, but it is not. Therefore, the second day is vile in my heart.
      1. +1
        25 November 2015 13: 54
        Tarapitsa is not necessary! -As Comrade Saakhov used to say smile Of course it’s disgusting, meanness is always disgusting. It hurts for our pilot, it hurts for MI-8 and the Marine. East he is: they smile in the face and shoot in the back ... Nothing new. Like 100 and 200 years ago we depend on the straits , the whole operation depends on the precise work of the Syrian express. The revenge of the weak. And we are the Strong. And the GDP is not forgotten, He just writes everything ...
    2. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 20
      Not myself! You need to think.
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  35. +7
    25 November 2015 13: 01
    Erdogan your brothers will soon burn when our planes and sunshine split into molecules the whole area with your fellow citizens in Syria.
  36. +5
    25 November 2015 13: 02
    Just "Crocodile naval battles". By this name was Eski-Gassana, who commanded the Turkish fleet in the battle of Fidonisi, where F.F. Ushakov, who commanded the Russian sailors. He was notable for insolent statements and antics against Russia and the Russians.
    Or maybe this ally of terrorists really come up with a nickname, or perhaps he already has one.
  37. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 02
    Do not forget: the appearance of Russia in the Syrian theater of operations (theater of operations) hit Turkey's vital interests. Talking about terrorists (too emotional a word!) Should not obscure the meaning of what is happening. Daesh ("Caliphate") is connected with Turkey by many threads. Stolen antiquities and oil flow to and through Turkey. Last week, the leadership of the Caliphate made a strategic decision to stop the circulation of the Syrian lira on its territory (which caused its immediate sharp decline), and use the Turkish lira instead.

    The success of the Syrian Kurds encouraged the Turkish Kurds, endangering the integrity of Turkey. The militants of northern Syria pass and are supplied through Turkish territory, and now, as a result of the actions of Russian aviation and Syrian ground troops, a direct threat loomed over them. If they flee to Turkey, the Turks will not seem enough.

    The United States and Europe, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are opposed to Russia in the Syrian war. we would like to sing “In heaven we flew alone” with the French and Americans, but they will not sing along.
  38. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 03
    guys! you read very well what your president said, there won’t be any military answer. Well, for a month there will be no Turkish underpants and turbo chewing gum, then silence and build on the gas pipe. The only countries that give the answer are Israel and the United States. So relax.
    1. +6
      25 November 2015 13: 08
      Have the Western press read? My dear man, Russia has changed, never read the Western press - wait - there will be an answer, you can be sure.
    2. +2
      25 November 2015 13: 08
      I don’t want to believe it ...
    3. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 10
      time will tell what will happen to whom. there will be no full-scale war, and then we will see.
    4. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 10
      time will tell what will happen to whom. there will be no full-scale war, and then we will see.
    5. +3
      25 November 2015 13: 13
      Quote: DOMINO100
      guys! you read very well what your president said, there won’t be any military answer. Well, for a month there will be no Turkish underpants and turbo chewing gum, then silence and build on the gas pipe. The only countries that give the answer are Israel and the United States. So relax.

      It will be necessary, but not now. By the way, only slums will remain in the EU, and the USA will cease to exist, only a little later. Get ready guys.
    6. 0
      25 November 2015 13: 20
      So far, it seems that the Turks will not bear any responsibility for the plane. The Russian leadership puffs its cheeks, on TV they will calculate how much the Turcoobes will lose from our "sanctions" and will slowly move away from this topic. And that's it! And they created a DANGEROUS precedent, and the whole world will know that it is POSSIBLE to act against Russia!
      I would be glad if I find myself in this wrong.
    7. +2
      25 November 2015 13: 42
      Quote: DOMINO100
      guys! you read very well what your president said

      Oh, the Britons erupted, you have one headache: cowards, chewing gum, LGBT people and crap someone who lives, unlike you, with normal human values ​​and morality.
      Our President clearly said that relations will be reviewed. And unlike your prime minister, OUR PRESIDENT is a real man, with a full understanding of what honor and dignity are. Publicly taking all responsibility for his actions and the person whose words do not diverge from the deed.
      You don’t and never will have, the guts are thin. So relax and have fun when Middle Eastern "refugees" have you on the banks of the Thames.
      1. -1
        26 November 2015 00: 19
        you are constantly throwing examples of gay orientation in Britain say little on these topics! in Russia in each chat someone is offered to take something, to fuck it, etc. so this is the question of who has more LGBT people in the country)))) and refugees are not allowed here to your disappointment.
    8. +4
      25 November 2015 13: 54
      I partly agree with you. But there is one significant remark. All the insolence and strength of Israel lies in friendship with the United States. That's all. And the United States has a military budget larger than the combined budget of all the rest of the world combined. Why did you forget Great Britain? Also a strong and courageous country! Tell us what the British troops did in the nineteenth century in Sevastopol, and in the past in Arkhangelsk and Central Asia? And most importantly - why? And who and how stopped Skobelev? Now about the United States. Who was bombed for the September 11 attacks by the Saudis? That's right - Afghanistan and Iraq! This, of course, can be admired, especially the results achieved. It's obvious to me that it's easier to be a gopnik in the backyard (everything is clear there and you are responsible for yourself) than to be the head of state. Pushed with a shoulder - got into a fight. It is just as obvious to me that jackals like the United States and its "allies" (and, in fact, slaves) are just waiting to drag Russia into the war and pounce on them.
      1. +3
        25 November 2015 14: 49
        Quote: anderles66
        All the audacity and strength of Israel is in friendship with the United States.

        And to you, who interfered with the answer as it should. You do not look back at the USA. It was necessary last night to bomb their radar which induced the F-16. You do not understand that serious uncles probed your abdomen, and instead of giving a tough answer, you merged and only threaten that you will cease to be friends. This is ridiculous. In BV, such actions look weak. Wait now when the next plane is shot down.
    9. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 59
      Quote: DOMINO100
      the only countries that give the answer are Israel and the United States. so relax.


      When a Russian hits, he does not measure power .... the consequences will be ... But you will find out later ... Yes, and we too ..
    10. +1
      25 November 2015 16: 37
      Until people are taken out of Turkey, and this is about 50000 people, no one will say anything, but after a look we’ll see.
    11. 0
      25 November 2015 16: 43
      If so, then our Crimea will depreciate and the rating will be drastically pushed down as it took off, and there it is not far from the coup. Probably GDP should understand this
  39. +5
    25 November 2015 13: 06
    But is it time to resume the production of ice axes?
  40. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 07
    This is generally arrogance, from impunity with an eye on NATO, instead of at least somehow resolving this incident by diplomatic or other methods, Turkey with such statements by Erdogan is "on the rampage."
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 17
      Yes, it was Erdogan who was let down by his older, western comrades-in-arms. Yeah, Ukraine, too, sharply insolent for no reason. And Georgia ...
  41. +5
    25 November 2015 13: 08
    To inflate an incident is how? Shouting loudly that the bloodthirsty aggressor Putin attacked Turkey’s lamb directly on the territory of Syria in order to annex stolen oil?
  42. +4
    25 November 2015 13: 09
    he cracked the bitch, right up to the ass ...
  43. +12
    25 November 2015 13: 09
    After yesterday's event, there was a definite shock, then the normal reaction of the body was anger to a headache, from impotence. Now comes awareness ...
    And sad conclusions. And they are about the same. Russia received the first and, unfortunately, not the last slap in the face, they will continue in one form or another, in insults, humiliations, or in tragedies (like yesterday). I just looked again at the map of the Black Sea basin, where is Russia, where is Turkey and where is Syria. Without the Bosphorus, the Black Sea turns into a large lake and then we swim here with a pair of forelocks. In politics, everyone has already said everything, we are already under siege. But in the economy it is even worse. From tension with the Turks, Russia is losing, well, a lot! It’s more expensive to shut off the Blue Stream gas, and the construction of a nuclear power plant (well, what a special gift, who signed a contract for the construction of the RF’s own money, the payback period is 20 years), and the gentlemen from Lukoil, who have 300 or more gas stations in Turkey (few Russia and Belarus?), and even a large number of smaller investments.
    So the task of punishing the cowardly scum without much damage to yourself will not work. But, this is already a matter of prestige, pride, respect for the state and people themselves.
    There are no ready-made recipes, this is a job for teams of analysts and specialists. But, there is a clear understanding that all previous economic and political vectors of development need to be redirected.
    This is not yet a crossing, but the Turkish "horse" is already dead!
  44. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 09
    Quote: tsvetkov1274
    I wanted to write simple-damp .. write too few words in the comment ... I’ll write ,, double damp ,,,

    I’ll say this. utrokisuchara
  45. +4
    25 November 2015 13: 11
    bpd ...
    1. +3
      25 November 2015 13: 20
      and ErdoGandon
  46. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 14
    cowardly jackal, ran to sisi nato
  47. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 14
    It would be better if the President of Turkey would not say anything ...
  48. +7
    25 November 2015 13: 16
    GDP again dipped their faces in G..O, if he did not respond in the near future by similarly knocking down or blowing up something, we can expect further knocking down of our aircraft, and not only them, everywhere, including in the Baltic states or near England, for animals become impudent when they feel a decrease in danger to themselves and their permissiveness ...
    1. VS
      +3
      25 November 2015 13: 38
      what are you smoking? - what so takes away ...
    2. +2
      25 November 2015 13: 50
      Quote: IAlex
      everywhere, including in the Baltic states or near England

      See heavy dreams from a hangover dreamed? Cucumber pickle pulls well in the morning. wink
  49. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 17
    Quote: Baikonur
    not only did not call the incident a tragedy, but also did not find the courage to apologize to Russia.

    I don't need your apology! And to relatives and friends of our pilot killed by you! and the marine is also killed because of you!
    You think our squad will not notice the loss of a fighter!
    I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!

    And then, his head, - but he’s in the same place !!!!!
  50. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 17
    Erdogan once again assured everyone that a Russian plane was shot down in Turkish airspace

    It is very interesting, four kilometers from the border with Turkey, but the plane was shot down in Turkish airspace. Already the Pentagon, guided by the thermal trail, recognized that the Su-24 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces was located over Syrian territory. Another doppelganger of the Ukrainian President is to blame everything on the healthy one.
  51. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 18
    These same brothers will cut off Zrdogan’s head!
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 50
      Quote: Million
      These same brothers will cut off Zrdogan’s head!

      They won’t cut them off, he’s the main terrorist who takes their oil, gives them money, treats them, trains them, and the rest of the pseudo-coalition is in the wings. They pretend to fight. And they are fighting with Russia, their task is to prevent the Russian Federation and Syria from destroying terrorism.
  52. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 18
    I would like to remind everyone here of the words of our president: This stab in the back will affect Russian-Turkish RELATIONS... And not a word about retribution, revenge, military response... So calm down.. - no one will touch Turkey. And the Turk understands this perfectly.. Conversations like “take your toys.. I won’t come to visit you anymore and I won’t buy tangerines from you” - this is a real kindergarten. He did everything right - he didn’t run to apologize, but immediately enlisted the support of America, France and China... We are in splendid isolation. The Israelis, so disliked by everyone, have stronger balls... Politicians - burn in hell...
  53. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 19
    We have no thoughts of exaggerating this incident, we are only protecting our safety

    There is no need to “inflate” anything, introduce sanctions on all economic and military contacts. And Erdogan will be blown away

    and the rights of our brothers...

    I didn’t finish the sentence: “from ISIS”
  54. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 19
    Yes, Erdogan “helped” the Tukmen - now they will be screwed!!!
  55. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 20
    We have no thoughts of exaggerating this incident, we are only protecting our safety and the rights of our brothers.

    Damn contraceptive, I hope that you will only dream of safety.
  56. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 21
    Quote: atalef
    Why chase oil carriers? In my opinion it’s much easier to mine oil mines

    the mines will also be useful for Assad to restore the economy
  57. 0
    25 November 2015 13: 22
    Quote: as150505
    Instead of a peach, put the stinky black man in your mouth

    Eku you wrapped, the Negro is what guilty of?
  58. Hiw
    0
    25 November 2015 13: 22
    your hell Erdogan is already here on earth, it’s better for you to die, it will be easier to boil in the cauldron there....

    It is definitely necessary to strengthen the Russian group of S-400 and Su-30 and Su-35 and an airborne regiment, bring down all fuel tankers with triple force, burn all ISIS oil depots, shoot down everything that flies near the Syrian border. No Turkish goods, no tourism with Turkey, and running a gas pipeline by sea to Greece is no use for the Turks to warm their hands on our gas. And if I see you Erdogan in Russia at a distance of throwing a stone - this stone is yours, I will try to hit
  59. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 23
    I had a dream - marines reinforced with tanks were landed on the coast of Turkey from "Zubrs"; special forces were thrown into the airfields, then the landing troop was unloaded from the IL-76 by landing method.
    A bulletproof vest was nailed at the gates of Ankara, and Erdogan was hanged at the a / base from which the F-16 took off. Instead of a stool, this nits had a short SU-24 wing under his feet, his run was short ...
    And all this action was broadcast online!

    Not a single bastard in the world has even uttered!

    What a dream it was GOOD !!!
  60. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 25
    But let no one expect that we will remain deaf and blind to the violation of our space, our borders, our sovereignty.

    This rotten frater, of course, “provided” evidence of our SU-24 violating its unfortunate borders. That is, you have to fart anyway, but there’s no way to provide the data.
    We have no thoughts of exaggerating this incident, we are only protecting our safety and the rights of our brothers.

    Dear God, guys, they won't make a big deal out of this incident! God bless! I felt better right away...
    You have already defended yourself, so much so that now you won’t be able to eat peaches in peace! There is a high probability of getting dirty...
    Screwing a plane is not a tricky thing... Then getting a bunch of problems is a different matter. The tricky business begins when it all needs to be cleared up, which, I hope, Comrade Erdogan will not be able to handle. He will bite his elbows, but his son will help...
  61. +3
    25 November 2015 13: 25
    YOUR BROTHERS?! Are these the ones who shouted Akbar and shot at an unarmed man?! Then they tormented and mocked the killed pilot?! Yes, THESE ARE YOUR BROTHERS!!! You are the same!!! And we recognize them and you as terrorists! And terrorists, as you know, “need to be washed in the toilet!!!” (c)
  62. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 26
    This is the president of the Turks ErGANDONGAN
  63. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 27
    Russia must protect both the Syrian people and its pilots from terrorists of all stripes so that more than one bastard cannot sneak up close to the plane, hiding behind friendly gestures and words.
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  65. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 29
    Recep Tayyip Erdogan you are such a hypocritical asshole!
  66. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 30
    Quote: coconut tim
    "will continue to defend the rights of" brothers "" One of the sons of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Bilal Erdogan, plays a big role in the oil business of Turkey and ISIS. Photos appeared in the media in which the son of the Turkish leader poses next to the field commanders of the Islamists. Business is nothing personal!

    Ramzan Akhmatovich, in the photo there is goal number one, please give Russia a gift for the New Year!!!
  67. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 31
    Quote: Dikson
    The much-disliked Israelis have stronger balls

    Well, it’s stronger because Israeli eggs are in “the duck, the duck is in the hare, the hare is in the chest, and the chest is in America” request
  68. 0
    25 November 2015 13: 33
    Soon this rat will be rushing around in search of a fifth corner. Will he find it?
  69. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 33
    Quote: Baikonur

    I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!

    There's no need for a hammer here. A cup of gift skip, dip the peach into it, then add “on the other side.” And let him sit in his “presidential chair” until the smoke comes out...
  70. VS
    0
    25 November 2015 13: 34
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    there is a very high probability that if a conflict breaks out, Turkey will not be harnessed

    they said that the Turk acted independently... and he should answer...
  71. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 35
    Yes, let us voice the meaning of what Erdogan said: terrorists are our brothers and we will kill those who prevent us from robbing, killing, cutting off the heads of citizens of other countries, both those opposing terrorism and simply citizens of other countries.
    Who hasn't yet understood the meaning of what was said? This is probably clear to everyone except our politicians and business.
  72. +2
    25 November 2015 13: 37
    The Turks have never been our brothers and never will be. Kurds too, by the way. It’s time to understand that we have partners there and they will be partners only as long as it is economically or politically beneficial for them, the situation changes and they change their position, “stab us in the back.” This applies not only to Turkey, but also to other countries in the region, the Iranians are the same...
    In general, reading comments that call for bombing Turkey, killing Erdogan, etc. I understand that they were written under the influence of emotions. If you look at the situation calmly, you immediately understand that our VKS are doing everything possible. Everything possible so as not to provoke a massacre of our stupid tourists, numerous numbers of whom stupidly rushed to Turkey without paying attention to the warnings of military analysts. To strike the territory of Turkey means to start the third world war because Turkey is a member of NATO. The fact that now there will be an S-400 in Syria, which will shoot down all hostile targets over Syrian territory, is very good for further VKS operations. The Turkamens, or whatever they are correctly called, must be destroyed, I hope our military will succeed. So that there is no one else there to shoot at the Syrian and our military. Iron that area completely. And to continue to bomb those who transport oil, it would be even better to intensify the bombing.
    Yes, I haven’t heard anything about the abolition of the visa-free regime with Turkey! It's time, it's high time to do this.
  73. +7
    25 November 2015 13: 37
    Good afternoon!
    This is my first comment on VO)))
    It seems to me that the downing of the plane was 100% revenge for the burned fuel tankers. Erdogan's son oversees oil smuggling. The most logical thing on our part would be to quietly give the order to eliminate Erdogan Jr. Just not now, but when everything calms down a little. And there, as the song says: somehow during the flight the engine failed.
  74. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 37
    This is a cowardly lady, she can’t even answer for her actions, she’s in the furnace of this jackal!!!
    And the children who died will have to answer for.
  75. -1
    25 November 2015 13: 43
    Yes, Turks will again have to change their nationality in their passport to Azerbaijani
  76. 0
    25 November 2015 13: 45
    Russia allegedly attacked the Turkomans, allegedly violated the border, la-la-la, just nonsense. Or maybe, after all, this is revenge for the fact that Russia is looting fuel tankers with oil from territories controlled by ISIS, which were heading mainly to Turkey.
  77. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 51
    Assad is slowing down once again...
    Give maximum autonomy to the Kurds, but as part of Syria (the Kurds cannot stand on their own against the Turks), and you will have a powerful ally closing the Turkish border...
  78. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 51
    Didn't even apologize, ferret.
    “Drop” fifty calibers on all military airfields in Turland, and then make a face like a brick - they say, so what? Happens. But we won’t apologize - it happened.
  79. 0
    25 November 2015 13: 52
    He sang, well, neither give nor take - Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk.
  80. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 53
    Mr. President of Russia! You swore that you would defend Russia and its citizens. You have now been given the right to fulfill this. Do as Israel does when protecting its citizens: death for death - for one killed - ten enemies, for one bomber - ten Turkish fighters. And it will be fair.
  81. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 54
    We have no intention of exaggerating this incident,

    Listen, you half-baked hoopoe, I don’t understand WHO KILLED WHOM? am
  82. 0
    25 November 2015 13: 54
    Long live the independent Republic of Kurdistan!
  83. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 57
    If we think logically and even take into account the Turks’ vision of the situation, the situation turns out to be something like the following:
    - SU-24 made flights directly near the Turkish border (both ours and the Turks make flights)
    - SU-24 violated the Turkish border, judging by the data provided by the Turks, it crossed a wedge of Turkish territory (about 3 km)
    - Let’s not take the maximum speed of the SU-24 as a basis, let’s take the average speed - 900 km/h or 250 m/s; it took 3 seconds to cover a 24 km segment at the given speed of the SU-12.
    - According to the testimony of the Turks, they warned our plane about violating the border 10 times within 5 minutes. Even if we assume that they began to warn the SU-24 in advance, on the approaches to the border, it turns out that the Turks began to warn the SU-24 “about violating the border” at a distance of 75.000 meters (75 km), the calculation is simple 250 m/s * 300 seconds.
    - The distance from the airfield to the Turkish border is about 50 km, based on the testimony of the Turks, they began to warn the SU-24 even on takeoff
    - Let's assume the constant presence of F-16s on the border and escort of SU-24s along the border on an ongoing basis. It turns out that when crossing the border of the SU-24, the pilot immediately had to launch a missile in order to hit the SU-24 over the territory of Turkey, otherwise the same missile simply would not have had enough time to defeat, and therefore no warning about “VIOLATION” "There can be no talk.
    - again, if we take into account the specifics of the “wedge” of Turkish territory, noticeably 4 by 4 km, we can judge that for the same F-16s there should not have been enough room for maneuver, and they should have flown into Syrian territory, that is, to violate the air border of another state. And this, in fact, can be regarded as air piracy.

    No matter what the Turks told us, all possible violations were carried out by the Turkish side; on our side, only a “possible” accidental and short-term violation of the Turkish border can be determined.

    With such distances to the Turkish border, I think the S-300s available at the base of our troops should be enough to make the Turkish Air Force feel very uncomfortable in the area of ​​the Syrian border. And it would be simply wonderful to place “Krasukha” in close proximity to the Turkish border, I think we have the opportunity for this.
  84. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 59
    Russia must insist that resuming dialogue with Turkey is possible, but Erdogan must go.
  85. +1
    25 November 2015 14: 01
    Erdogan’s “brothers” must not cross the Turkish border alive. Any Turkish plane taking off from an airfield must be illuminated by our radar. The flyer must know that he is already the target.
  86. +2
    25 November 2015 14: 05
    The Kurds promise to avenge the Russian pilots and “arrange a no-fly zone for Erdogan”
    A group of Kurds raising funds for Christian refugees in Kurdistan and closely associated with Kurdish militias in Iraq and Syria wrote on their social network page about their desire to avenge the killed Russian pilots of the Su-24 in the sky over Syria.

    “Dear Russia, we Kurds will be happy to avenge your pilots. Just give us MANPADS, we will make a good no-fly zone for Erdogan, ”the report said.
    http://warfiles.ru/show-101010-kurdy-obeschayut-otomstit-za-rossiyskih-pilotov-i
    -ustroit-erdoganu-bespoletnuyu-zonu.html
  87. +1
    25 November 2015 14: 17
    First they shot down, and then “let’s not do it”?
  88. +1
    25 November 2015 14: 24
    And when 1.5 years ago from Ukraine
    Shells fell on our territory
    And we talked about protecting the Russians
    (Brothers) they poured shit on us
    So why the f*ck is NATO silent right now?
    Two-faced bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  89. +1
    25 November 2015 14: 28
    Restore the territory of Armenia, completely change the terrain in Turkey along the border, by 1000 kilometers. But Erdogan will in no case inflate the incident.
    And if Erdogan becomes an orphan, the same thing
  90. +1
    25 November 2015 14: 31
    Turkomans signed up for ISIS yesterday. All. Turkish Air Force too.
  91. +1
    25 November 2015 14: 33
    And when 1.5 years ago from Ukraine
    Shells fell on our territory

    Let us be self-critical, then from our side shells fell on their territory. And in general, I would not compare these two situations. They are, IMHO, too different.
  92. 0
    25 November 2015 14: 41
    Still, a fabulous stupid person.
    They explicitly hinted to him that you had definitely messed up. Run around there, try to come to an agreement, apologize, etc.
    No. Continues to sing his mournful song. One such pretzel behaved the same way about 7 years ago.
    PySy. I imagine Erdoğaşa chewing his tie. Cool.
    PySySy And I wrote another word instead of “stupid person”. ;-)
  93. 0
    25 November 2015 14: 42
    Yes, now it’s clear who they are protecting their Kurdish brothers with whom they were at enmity, oh, Erdogan, this is on the orders of the amers who want to start a confrontation with Russia, this is clear.
  94. 0
    25 November 2015 14: 46
    Deep condolences to the family of the deceased Sushka pilot. May the kingdom of heaven be upon him. I have no words. Forgive us, brother.
  95. -1
    25 November 2015 15: 05
    This is how you need to protect the fraternal people on your border, and not help the ghouls regain control over the border and hand over the common people to be torn to pieces by their enemies. But “our leaders” are not interested in all this; the main thing is the interests of “our partners” and the Rotenbergs.
  96. 0
    25 November 2015 15: 08
    Accept apologies from these freaks only after the well-known rule: Blood for blood. No other way. Let them send a plane to Syria so that ours can shoot it down, let them burn it at the airfield and impale the pilot, let them do whatever they want, but they must repay with blood for the lives of our soldiers. They understand only the language of force, and letting them bleed for a long time will discourage the desire to pretend to be “cool.” Let that bastard Erdogan personally apologize to Putin. And tell the Turks loudly that as long as this brute is in power, there will be no normal relations with you. Let them dump him on X...r themselves.
  97. 0
    25 November 2015 15: 09
    You can calmly arrange a provocation there and when he starts defending his brothers, he will smear...
  98. +1
    25 November 2015 15: 20
    Türkiye will not “inflate the incident” (with Su-24)
    This is not required of you: we will inflate it ourselves. But I’m afraid no fire trucks will help you anymore.
  99. 0
    25 November 2015 15: 23
    “Will not inflate the incident” - this is called backing down. Apparently yesterday NATO explained that no one, not even the most stubborn Young NATO members, will start a mess with Russia over the Turks and the personal business of the Erdogan family. There will be too much outcry over terrorist patrons staging a fight, especially after the explosions in Paris. And no one wants to get a trivial slap; the principle is very simple: everyone wants to divide the territory of Russia, but no one wants to be the one who tries to squeeze it out. Therefore, everyone sits and waits until someone grapples with the bear, so that they can fall from behind and remain intact. And everyone understands that the one who pokes his head in first is not a tenant. Therefore, they egg each other on, but no one moves. So the Turks flew over with their provocation. It's a pity the soldier...
    The question is still in the hardness of individual parts of the body of our politicians. It is no secret that the financial interests of Russia and Turkey are closely intertwined. LUKoil has about 700 gas stations there, Sber bought the rather large DENIZ bank a couple of years ago, and other influential structures are also connected there. Hence, there are completely justified doubts about the reality of a firm and tough answer. Will politicians and officials once again mislead with behind-the-scenes games what was won on the battlefields with the blood of our soldiers?
  100. 0
    25 November 2015 16: 00
    I feel the Turkish so-called rebels will be burned out at an accelerated pace after the incident.