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Erdogan said that Turkey will not "inflate the incident" (with Su-24), but will continue to protect the rights of "brothers"

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Turkish President Erdogan, who was silent like a fish the day before, made several statements at once about yesterday’s tragedy with the Russian Su-24, shot down by Turkish Air Force aircraft. At the same time, in his statements, Erdogan not only did not name what happened as a tragedy, but did not find the courage to apologize to Russia. RIA News cites a statement by the Turkish president, who hastened on the eve of hiding behind other NATO representatives:


Turkey has always advocated peace, dialogue, diplomatic settlement, and after that we will continue to do the same. But let no one expect us to remain deaf and blind to violating our space, our borders, our sovereignty. We have no thoughts to inflate this incident, we only protect our security and the rights of our brothers.


Erdogan said that Turkey will not "inflate the incident" (with Su-24), but will continue to protect the rights of "brothers"


By “our brothers” Erdogan, apparently, understood the militants from the Syrian Turkmen groups, as well as the thugs from ISIL, thanks to whom Ankara feeds on cheap oil and has the ability to continue the bloodshed in Syria, solving its tasks also for the Kurds.

Erdogan once again assured everyone that the Russian plane was shot down in Turkish airspace, but it did not clarify how the Russian bomber in this situation threatened the security of Turkey. Or does Erdogan understand the security of Turkey solely as something associated with the support of international terrorism and the smuggling of hydrocarbons? ..

Recall that, according to the Ministry of Defense, the Su-24 RF VKS was attacked at a distance of 4 km from the Turkish border at an altitude of about 6 thousand meters. NATO was unable to confirm the words of Erdogan that a Russian plane violated Turkish airspace.
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  1. yushch
    yushch 25 November 2015 12: 47 New
    120
    Well, we will have to protect and help our Kurdish brothers. hi
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 25 November 2015 12: 48 New
      126
      not only did not call the incident a tragedy, but also did not find the courage to apologize to Russia.

      I don't need your apology! And to relatives and friends of our pilot killed by you! and the marine is also killed because of you!
      You think our squad will not notice the loss of a fighter!
      I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 25 November 2015 12: 50 New
        20
        This stoop is not enough for this dog ...
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 25 November 2015 13: 09 New
          48
          Putin was most adequately restrained, even too much.
          P.E. certainly a repeat of the incident will mean the beginning of such actions, in which Turkish aircraft will fall, and the infrastructure will collapse (explode).

          By the way, according to the reaction of NATO countries, there is a very high probability that in the event of a conflict over Turkey they will not harness. Most likely this is what Erdagan was told at the emergency summit.
          Today, the air group is doubled and amounts to 69 aircraft. Plus the probability of the appearance of the S-400, our strategic aviation, so ... ..see.

          PS
          Turkey has already used its first / last right to make a mistake.
          1. TURAR
            TURAR 25 November 2015 13: 13 New
            12
            2012 year
            "Turkey's Abdullah Gul suggested that the fighter violated Syrian airspace due to the high flight speed.
            "Turkey cannot ignore the fact that Syria shot down our plane. Turkey is a strong country. And we will pause to clarify the details and then take the necessary actions. This is impossible to hide. Syria says that the plane crossed the border in its territorial waters. This it’s normal when a jet plane briefly enters the airspace of another country. If you think about how fast such planes fly over the sea, crossing borders a short distance, and then return, this is a common thing, "he said."
          2. opus
            opus 25 November 2015 13: 19 New
            17
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            Plus the probability of the appearance of the S-400, our strategic aviation, so ... ..see.

            already.
            This morning:
            Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system will be deployed to the Khmeimim airbase in Syria.

            It's time to test the S-400 for military purposes

            -----------------------------
            At a meeting of the board of the ministry, participants honored the memory of the pilots with a minute of silence.
          3. Alekseir162
            Alekseir162 25 November 2015 13: 35 New
            19
            Putin was most adequately restrained, even too much.

            Yes, Vladimir Vladimirovich knows how to hold a blow, and only a steel look and walking nods betrayed how furious he was. Well, nothing will come soon and Erdogan’s chewing tie.
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 25 November 2015 14: 04 New
              16
              His brothers in the ravine donkey eat up.
              1. Roman13
                Roman13 25 November 2015 15: 58 New
                +4
                "We will defend our brothers ... who carried out terrorist attacks in Paris and Egypt." I would like to see how he would face-to-face looked in the eyes of Putin and Hollande alone.
                1. Secta
                  Secta haki 25 November 2015 19: 03 New
                  +3
                  If Turkey and its president are accomplices of terrorists, and it’s already open
                  violate the sovereignty of Russia and Syria, then with accomplices of terrorists
                  what are they doing?
          4. Reinhard
            Reinhard 25 November 2015 13: 35 New
            +2
            None of NATO will harness for Turkey! The United States is simply pumping money out of NATO members. for membership. vparivaet its weapons and so on. Example? In Lithuania, a Russian plane (this year it was) "violated the border" of Latvia. All armor on the ears. the Americans. that OBLIGED as "defenders of the sky beloved member of NATO. calmly drank in a nearby institution. laughing
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 25 November 2015 13: 57 New
              15
              It will be a joke if the GDP declares to Hollande at the meeting that “Erdogan must leave”!
              Turkey, like Ukraine, is now waiting for a "recession" (recession, stagnation). Well, hardly anyone wants to see him at home in Europe.
              NATO, as intermediaries for smoothing, is not suitable. He will run to Aliyev or Nazarbayev when he “reaches” what he has done. Already declares that he did not know whose plane, naive.
              Russia now has an “excellent” occasion to unfold fully in Syria. I mean a military base, no one can squeak now. As if Israel did not declare that their planes were "scamming". Now such a claim is not clever. The Kremlin needs to fully squeeze out of this situation. Ultimately, this squeeze will not be sweet for NATO. Imagine that the Russian Armed Forces will transfer MiG-31, electronic warfare and air defense systems to Syria. Do NATOers need it? Erdogan will become extreme. Few EU crap with their ATO and the relationship with the Russian Aerospace Forces, so still close to get such a group? The Yankees already realized where the Kremlin’s wind blew, and would clearly be unhappy with such a base in the eastern Mediterranean. hi
          5. Secta
            Secta haki 25 November 2015 15: 54 New
            -3
            Did they have a right to it?
          6. gladcu2
            gladcu2 25 November 2015 19: 30 New
            -1
            Vladislav.

            And what in Turkey still has not cut off all the electricity by the REB systems?

            I am not me and REB is not mine.
        2. Good me
          Good me 25 November 2015 13: 21 New
          13
          Erdogan said that Turkey will not "inflate the incident" (with Su-24), but will continue to protect the rights of "brothers"


          Ah HERE AS actually called the incident ... !!!

          It turns out that the initial cries of "protecting the borders" are just a cover for an act of aggression against Russia, destroying the "ISIS brothers" ... It sounds like an undisguised threat.

          So the cards are revealed yes . What else is needed for us to take even tougher measures against the aggressor than those that announced the GDP?
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 25 November 2015 14: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Good I
            but will continue to defend the rights of the "brothers"

            Everything is said with these words in a quote. The Russian VKS “urinate" the Turkmens living in Syria and at the same time acting in arms against Assad, it is quite possible that, together with Daesh (the so-called Islamic State). So it turns out that Erdogan protects his bandit brothers and business son, at the same time.
        3. nadezhiva
          nadezhiva 25 November 2015 13: 27 New
          +8
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          This stoop is not enough for this dog ...

          Do not offend animals. This creature is more to the genus of nids, despite all the symbols.
          1. AnpeL
            AnpeL 25 November 2015 13: 31 New
            36
            Erdogan is a scoundrel and ...
        4. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 25 November 2015 21: 17 New
          0
          Shoot this su (ba) ku.
      2. GDP
        GDP 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
        45
        it seems that Erdogan is not all right with his head lately ... Having the Kurdish problem on the territory, and Isil on the borders. a hostile relationship with the Syrian government, and also with Russia enters into confrontation, on which Turkey is so dependent in the economic sphere ... It will not bring anything good to ordinary Turks. A politician must also understand when to saber and when to retreat ...

        Turkey is not an Ottoman Empire - covering the floor of the world. Obviously, he doesn’t want to understand this at all ...

        As a result, it will receive not an independent and strong Turkey, but at best a US colony with a destroyed economy and civil war on its territory ...
        1. mad
          mad 25 November 2015 12: 55 New
          34
          Quote: GDP
          the feeling that Erdogan is not all right with his head


          Erdogan must leave! ©
          1. ydjin
            ydjin 25 November 2015 13: 00 New
            16
            Quote: mad
            Quote: GDP
            the feeling that Erdogan is not all right with his head


            Erdogan must leave! ©

            To the count of the demon! am
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            2. severniy
              severniy 25 November 2015 13: 21 New
              10
              Quote: mad
              Quote: GDP
              the feeling that Erdogan is not all right with his head


              Erdogan must leave! ©

              ...... Absolutely .....
            3. Svetoch
              Svetoch 25 November 2015 21: 29 New
              0
              I would say this: Erdogan in pork skin. Well, of course, where without it. am
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 November 2015 13: 07 New
            20
            Quote: mad
            Erdogan must leave!

            To a different world and the faster, the better for Turkey.
          3. sannych
            sannych 25 November 2015 13: 09 New
            16
            Erdogan is a corrupt dictator who does not respect human rights and democratic procedures. Erodogan has lost legitimacy in the eyes of the world community. Erdogan used disproportionate force to disperse peaceful demonstrators. Turkey without Erdogan!
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          5. diz1975
            diz1975 25 November 2015 13: 24 New
            27
            Erdogan must leave!
            Erdogan must leave!
            Erdogan must leave!
            This is a symmetrical answer. This is what we need to answer the talk that Assad has to leave.
            Erdogan is harmful to the Turkish people and the Turkish economy; it is a destabilizing factor for Turkey. He is an accomplice to terrorism. He is stealing oil. He is an aggressor and a vile killer from around the corner!
            Erdogan must leave!
            Erdogan must leave!
            1. fif21
              fif21 25 November 2015 15: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: diz1975
              Erdogan must go! Erdogan must go! Erdogan must go!
              Into another world! another world! another world!
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        2. Spnsr
          Spnsr 25 November 2015 13: 11 New
          +9
          Quote: GDP
          Erdogan is not all right with his head

          of course! bombed such a loot! here hysteria is not the right word ...
        3. Vita vko
          Vita vko 25 November 2015 13: 41 New
          +4
          Quote: GDP
          it seems that Erdogan is not all right with his head lately ...

          He blocked the free oil channel from the IG, thanks to the revenue with which he wins the election. Obviously, he has long been accustomed to consider oil fields in the north of Syria as his property
      3. Altona
        Altona 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: Baikonur
        I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!

        -------------------
        Apricot (abrek) eats a peach ... Gygygy ...
        1. Altona
          Altona 25 November 2015 13: 19 New
          -3
          Quote: Altona
          Quote: Baikonur
          I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!

          -------------------
          Apricot (abrek) eats a peach ... Gygygy ...

          Quote: Dyatko Nebatko
          Nectarine...

          -------------------------
          And minors for ISIS apparently do not consider Erdogan an abrek? Well, we mean 7 potential traitors on the site ...
          1. opus
            opus 25 November 2015 13: 41 New
            +8
            Quote: Altona
            do not consider Erdogan an abrek?

            Erdogan is not “abrek” (“abrag”), as a.-man, gone to the mountainsliving outside power and law, leading a guerrilla-robber lifestyle; originally a Caucasian highlander, expelled from his midst for a crime, usually murder.
            Erdogan-Bashibuzuk (başıbozuk)





            / And all of them bb-ki

            were shit, shit and stayed:

            Ermeni Kırımı - Armenian massacre; The Great Crime
            And not any "Nuremberg"





            V.S. Pikul in Bayazet described well
            1. Altona
              Altona 25 November 2015 15: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: opus
              originally a Caucasian highlander, expelled from his midst for a crime, usually murder.
              Erdogan-Bashibuzuk (başıbozuk)

              ----------------------
              And the difference is what? He committed the murder; among high-ranking politicians, he is on the verge of "exile." You yourself correctly described everything, but you decided to be smart and call Erdogan an allegedly authentic name. And if I call him in other languages? "Abrek" or "apricot" is a derogatory nickname for immigrants from the Caucasus, walking in a crowd and not responsible for their words, and this is part of the army and street jargon. And you got into some kind of complex genesis.
              PS Well, I myself served in the Caucasus, I will call Erdogan the word "BOZ" ... I'll see how many more "smart people" will come to Erdogan’s bar ...
              1. opus
                opus 25 November 2015 15: 44 New
                +4
                Quote: Altona
                And the difference is what?

                in it
                Quote: opus
                exiled hailing from their midst for a crime

                1. Until they expelled.
                2. His family will NEVER recognize the downing of the SU-24 as a crime (they will not recognize the genocide of the Armenians, even if the number is comic)
                3. The Turks were never called Abreks, but this is a “privilege” of our Caucasians. Why offend the Caucasian people?


                Quote: Altona
                but decided to be smart

                it makes no sense for me to “get smart” and prove something.
                It is a fact
                Quote: Altona
                PS Well, I myself served in the Caucasus, I will call Erdogan the word "BOS".

                - call it what you want.
                -can call chock, apricot, even poop.
                And Barack Obama - Paleface.
                what will it give and what will it change?
                -not served in the Caucasus, but the "brothers" served. And what?
                Turks will never be called abreks
                Quote: Altona
                I'll see how many more "wise men"

                Do you have any kind of complex?
                1. Altona
                  Altona 25 November 2015 16: 12 New
                  -5
                  Quote: opus
                  Do you have any kind of complex?

                  -----------------------
                  Who cares? As I want, I’ll call it ... It’s not your business and you don’t have to be clever, they explained everything to you ...
                  1. opus
                    opus 25 November 2015 16: 27 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Altona
                    It’s none of your business and you shouldn’t be clever, everyone explained to you ...

                    Wrote the same
                    Quote: Altona
                    - call it what you want.

                    Are you that dumb, or what? or arrogance rushing?

                    Quote: Altona
                    and don’t have to be clever, they explained everything to you ...

                    1.You did not ask what should I do

                    2. I do not need your explanations. Yes, and this is not an explanation, but arrogant nonsense
                    Yes, this confirms:
                    Quote: Altona
                    Well, we mean 7 potential traitors on the site ...

                    Syndrome informer-Komsyuk not get rid of?
      4. Dyatko Nebatko
        Dyatko Nebatko 25 November 2015 12: 55 New
        +3
        Nectarine...
      5. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 25 November 2015 12: 56 New
        24
        ...... we only protect our safety and the rights of our brothers.

        Your brother is a mad dog, and you are an old donkey with cancer, who has decided so far in power to pull his little sons to the sale of bloody oil of a foreign country! I don’t know how in Islam, but I think that it is also written down, but in our religion the Lord said: BY YOUR BUSINESS, AZ AGAIN! So do not seek, the creaky ferret will be rewarded in full, and as Godunov will have: - And the pilots are bloody in the eyes! - come at night! am
      6. Private Starley
        Private Starley 25 November 2015 13: 04 New
        +5
        Here are the stick trees, but I thought it was a sinful thing to think that he supports pschek, helps them with the sale of apples ... In short, let this peach stand in his throat when he goes ... ..
      7. 341712
        341712 25 November 2015 13: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: Baikonur
        I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!


        ..he plans to put a bone to death ... trainer ....
      8. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 25 November 2015 14: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: Baikonur
        I would hammer you


        an ice ax needs him
      9. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 25 November 2015 15: 32 New
        0
        I wouldn’t hammer a peach in my mouth, but put a hammer in the ass so that the peach chokes.
        My question is: So already have C-400 at our Khmeimim airbase or will it just be brought? Different information just wanders, that is, then no.
      10. opus
        opus 25 November 2015 16: 33 New
        +4
        Quote: Baikonur
        I don't need your apology! And to relatives and friends of our pilot killed by you! and

        He already included the return flow at the International Islamic Economic Congress in Istanbul.


        Erdogan: "Turkish Air Force did not know during the attack on the Su-24 that he was Russian "belay

        "The fact that the plane belongs to the Russian Federation, it became clear only after the Russian authorities announced this"- said Erdogan.



        According to Yuri Baluevsky, now it’s necessary Guided by Article 51 of the UN Charter (“The Right to Self-Defense”), use weapons against those who, in fact, encroached on Russia's sovereignty, on specific Russian citizens, on our pilots.

        ===================================
        chew on his ties:




        and Erdogan’s son doesn’t get dirty money for the export of oil Isil
    2. Metallurgist
      Metallurgist 25 November 2015 12: 51 New
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      I believe that as soon as the export of Turkish goods to Russia decreases sharply, it will sober up a little.
      In general, it keeps a hard face of a politician with bad cards.
      I hope he realized that he was stupidly framed by both NATO and the US and the EU. There are no screams of indignant public in Europe and so on. But Erdogan’s oil business was over - there wouldn’t be any stone left from all fuel trucks there. Quite a junk. Well, since EW nevertheless covered Syria, it was now completely dangerous for the Turks to fly there.
      In short, the Turks, you have been raped.
      PS Poland ate apples. Now Turkey is drunk with peaches. Erdogan, get started!
      1. Altona
        Altona 25 November 2015 12: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: Metallurg
        In general, it keeps a hard face of a politician with bad cards.

        ----------------------
        He probably wanted to show himself as a “man of hard decisions” like Putin, but in the end he was liquidated ... Even high friends from NATO and the USA did not help, and could not help. Because all the media trumpeted that the son is a big smuggler of stolen oil and has a cash from IG ...
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 25 November 2015 13: 03 New
        32
        How the US attitude to military planning differs from Russia is that they always provide an overwhelming advantage in the war zone, they customize an aircraft carrier, submarines, transfer hundreds of planes to the next land airports, everyone laughs at them, because of this, but practically such there are no cases, but on the contrary, minimalism comes first, everything is done to a minimum, which prevented the S-300B4 or S-400 from being transferred earlier to Syria, so that it would be possible to immediately shoot down the F-16 in response? Or maybe they would not have dared to attack if they detected the S-300B4 / S-400 radar ?. What prevented the additional Su-30SM and Su-35 from being thrown there? Yes, and there is nothing to do with the Su-24, Russia has 78 like the Su-34. Why not use the Su-34 in Syria and leave the Su-24 in Russia (the Su-34 has an on-board electronic warfare system, powerful radar and the ability to carry air-to-air missiles)?
        And if we are not talking about the Su-24, what kind of electronic warfare was installed on them (at least there would be some chance to survive in the aircraft)? They have been modernizing it for a year now, and all hands haven’t reached EW ... While they are modernizing, is the modernization plan apparently outdated?
        Where are the praised overhead containers of the Khibiny EW at the Su-24? Which carry on exhibitions, but something is not visible in the videoconferencing ...
        1. NOMADE
          NOMADE 25 November 2015 13: 17 New
          20
          I understand your emotions, in other matters, like the rest ((
          1) the ignition soundwinder is neutral, it follows the thermal signature .. therefore, if there was a “visual” contact at startup with f -16, then the radiation warning system (Birch - it seems) will not work. Beat, really out of the sneak ((
          2) we considered them, poorly poorly "allies" .... (
          3) the problem was (see point 2) that the Su-24 went without cover ... There was a "free hunt" by daish ..
          4) Su - 24, not a universal "fighter" .., he is an "older" fighter, on the ground. With f-16, without an appropriate suspension, let alone a task / plan, it can’t fight ... There were no special fears. It seems like with NATO, they all agreed and agreed.
          5) This is purely a setup of "partners." (

          Very sad and sad to hear about it! (
        2. anderles66
          anderles66 25 November 2015 13: 23 New
          +7
          practically no such cases happen with the USA
          Are you absolutely sure about this? I once read an analysis of real US losses in Iraq. Not so invulnerable they look. This is considering that anti-tank and air defense systems in Iraq were not the latest. Do you remember Yugoslavia? Do you know how the Serbs opposed NATO aircraft? Using microwaves.
          What prevented the transfer
          Initially, the operation in Syria was planned as limited in time and scope. So, by the way, after a while, ships were needed to increase the volume of priority supplies. Plus, it was necessary to support the Syrian army, bleeding pretty much. So the air defense systems even in this logistics were completely redundant. An agreement with NATO was reached. I remember very well how two months ago, analysts (including here, on the site) laughed that ours had pulled the Moskva cruiser from air defense and electronic warfare equipment - they say there are no aircraft in the IS. It was expected the appearance of air defense at the IG, but not the same aircraft! The planes you listed all have different purposes. You, as Air Force reserve lieutenant, should not be embarrassed that they are all SU? The problem with what happened is that Russia plays by the rules, but not with it. If there were S-300, 400, or at least 500, they would still find a way to provoke against Russia, and precisely where and when they could not adequately respond to them.
        3. Per se.
          Per se. 25 November 2015 13: 48 New
          +7
          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          what prevented the earlier transfer of C-300В4 or С-400 to Syria
          Half-hearted measures and belated decisions, both with the anti-constitutional coup in Kiev and with the military assistance of Syria. Our C-300s were supposed to deliver Assad’s armies a long time ago, but at first they obediently froze the already reached agreements because of “sanctions”, afterwards, because of the concern of our Israeli friends. What is stopping us all? Capitalism, selfish interests of the oligarchs, dependence on alien rules of the game that Russia dutifully abides by, the flesh to the imposed primacy of international law over Russian laws. What the Turks did, having shot down a Russian combat aircraft, and even in the sky of a country alien to them, is impossible to imagine with impunity, be the States in Russia, even small North Korea. We called it an "unfriendly act." The earplugs who posted on the net how they scorched our parachute fleeing pilots for Turkey and the US are the "moderate opposition" who have the right to defend themselves ... Israel, for returning a projectile, strikes back with artillery or aircraft, we only recommended tourists refrain from traveling to Turkey and maybe Russia will decide to stop buying Turkish vegetables. Will they let us win in Syria in this way, with all our “tolerance”, if Turkey’s impudent provocation is aimed at aggravating relations, with a possible excuse for blocking the straits or restricting the passage of our warships ... Bandera, both in the Donbas and in the past, have stirred. on the border with the Crimea, all these are links of one US game and our mistakes, lost time, opportunities, half-hearted decisions. “Syria has not yet fallen,” if “the winner is not the one,” then who will it be? Now it is important to unite the whole nation, the tension of all Russia, and how our leadership will continue to act will determine not only the fate of the military operation in Syria, but also the fate of Russia and the whole world.
        4. opus
          opus 25 November 2015 14: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          How the US attitude to military planning differs from Russia is that they always provide an overwhelming advantage in the war zone, they customize an aircraft carrier, submarines, transfer hundreds of planes to the next land airports, everyone laughs at them, because of this, but with the USA practically

          -we just don’t have so many resources
          - if there were, then through the neck of the Dardanelles / Juosphorus not to be dragged in at such a time (you need at least 0,5 years), during this time Assad would be overthrown
          -We do not have “nearest” airfields and bases, except for Syrian
          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          everything is done to a minimum, which prevented the earlier transfer of the S-300B4 or S-400 to Syria, so that you could immediately shoot down the F-16 in response?

          Samim (SAM) is not enough
          -do not have time
          -against who? (no one assumed the dirty tricks of the Turks), all the "partners" would howl
          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          Yes, and there is nothing to do with the Su-24, Russia has 78 like the Su-34. Why not use the Su-34 in Syria and leave the Su-24 in Russia (the Su-34 has an on-board electronic warfare system, powerful radar and the ability to carry air-to-air missiles)?

          -there were supposed goals that would have sufed the Su-25: the SU-34 is normally operating hours, the resource will be worked out for simple tasks
          -SU-34 and electronic warfare all the same would be destroyed by the F-16 (especially a couple) in case of a sudden attack in the rear hemisphere
        5. KaPToC
          KaPToC 25 November 2015 15: 52 New
          0
          But American planes and helicopters also shoot down.
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 November 2015 12: 56 New
      12
      Erdogan, now let him protect his point, cattle base.
    4. meriem1
      meriem1 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
      +7
      Quote: yushch
      Well, we will have to protect and help our Kurdish brothers. hi

      Yeah. Already defended. S-300 is being transferred and MOSCOW has approached. Turks are afraid to raise planes at the border. and rightly so. Drop. I think the northern border has become flightless for NATO.
      ps. The main thing was that they saved one pilot ... I can imagine what he thinks and how he will fight now. Let them tremble ........ And the Kurds must be taken under their wing. MANPADS they really need !!!!
    5. Wiruz
      Wiruz 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
      18
      Yes, spit us that there Erdogan said that he said. I am sure that in Moscow everything has already been decided on it. It's time to chew a tie, Mr. President, or, well, as an option, you can go to the mayors of Odessa laughing
    6. Nick
      Nick 25 November 2015 13: 01 New
      17
      Quote: yushch
      Well, we will have to protect and help our Kurdish brothers. hi

      ... and the Armenians should be helped to return their original lands and Mount Ararat
    7. Spnsr
      Spnsr 25 November 2015 13: 06 New
      +6
      May she didn’t understand the adnak!
      that he will cover the brothers with ig will be?
      here it is the face of an accomplice of terrorists !!!
    8. Vladimir71
      Vladimir71 25 November 2015 13: 10 New
      +5
      We just now realized that our brothers Kurds and Khokh = ly are relatives of Isil and other Turks. So we will help our brothers with weapons of MANPADS and other equipment so that the Turks soon come to Peace and ruin the life of the Ukrainians by withdrawing finances from the subsidiaries of banks of the Russian Federation, cutting off energy supplies and introducing a food embargo, and more ...
    9. Slavapom
      Slavapom 25 November 2015 13: 14 New
      +4
      yes, to defend ourselves, and in order to protect, put a couple of C-300 divisions in Syria, the C-300 division of Cyprus, you can also throw something up-to-date in Armenia, and declare the whole territory of Turkey as a demon flight zone.
    10. NEXUS
      NEXUS 25 November 2015 13: 14 New
      +8
      Quote: yushch
      Well, we will have to protect and help our Kurdish brothers. hi

      I think Erdogan’s policy is coming to an end, as well as the Turkish caliphate. Anyone can support the Turks, but I don’t think that the Turks will take our steps back. It’s impossible to forget the conflict. I’m surprised if some of our submarines of the Black Sea Fleet do not work out on an oil tanker in the near future, blocking this vessel's access to other ships at sea.
    11. Trailer
      Trailer 25 November 2015 13: 14 New
      +1
      Russian and Kurd - brothers forever!
      1. Roman13
        Roman13 25 November 2015 15: 42 New
        -1
        I have not heard that before. With whom we were not just brothers. But as soon as we face them, they are to us ...
    12. ROD VDVshny
      ROD VDVshny 25 November 2015 13: 23 New
      +6
      Video from the scene of the rescue operation:

    13. Quager
      Quager 25 November 2015 13: 24 New
      +2
      And the dictator Erdogan must leave!
    14. varov14
      varov14 25 November 2015 13: 42 New
      +3
      It’s exactly how they go to the Kurds in Syrian territory, soak so that not a single jackal comes back.
    15. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 25 November 2015 14: 13 New
      0
      Everything is just beginning! Puzzles are gathering together. The Lord, partners, have planned a very serious, not good disgust. Now you need to be ready for everything! And this freaking chain dog is ahead of the whole engine. We will not forget! We will not forgive! Our business is just! The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!
    16. Juborg
      Juborg 25 November 2015 14: 15 New
      +1
      Erdogan said that Turkey will not "inflate the incident" (with Su-24), but will continue to protect the rights of "brothers"

      AND NOT ANY APOLOGY, NOTHING !!!
    17. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 25 November 2015 14: 48 New
      +1
      Looking at the photo, I want to say - "So that you choke on ub ... doc!"

      He decided to protect the "Brothers", jackal, soon your so-called "brothers" will come kayuk.
    18. Maj.
      Maj. 25 November 2015 18: 58 New
      0
      All these NATO countries behave exactly like domestic mongrels. When one dog he pulls its tail and caresses, and its eyes are so harmless that you want to stroke. But if the same dog feels that the owner is nearby, he will bite and tail his tail to the owner. And if shAvok they throw a lot, but with caution. Cowardice however. Nothing dear reminds you?
    19. papas-57
      papas-57 25 November 2015 20: 38 New
      0
      '' Turkish President Erdogan: We have no idea to fan this incident. '' I didn’t understand something, was it we who had flunked their plane and not apologized?
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  3. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 25 November 2015 12: 50 New
    +8
    I wanted to write simple-damp .. write too few words in the comment ... I’ll write ,, double damp ,,,
  4. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 25 November 2015 12: 50 New
    +2
    Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are. And then brother ...
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
      30
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/242/xjux820.png
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  5. Borets
    Borets 25 November 2015 12: 50 New
    17
    Attacked at a distance of 1km, and fell by 4km. Burn all caravans of oil carriers, and so that no car could cross the border anymore.
    1. atalef
      atalef 25 November 2015 12: 54 New
      18
      Quote: Borets
      Attacked at a distance of 1km, and fell by 4km. Burn all caravans of oil carriers, and so that no car could cross the border anymore.

      Why chase oil carriers? In my opinion it’s much easier to mine oil mines
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 November 2015 13: 09 New
        11
        Quote: atalef
        Why chase oil carriers?

        Sanya, do you feel sorry for the bombs? And enough for the mines and the bearded.
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        2. atalef
          atalef 25 November 2015 13: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          Why chase oil carriers?

          Sanya, do you feel sorry for the bombs? And enough for the mines and the bearded.

          You understand if the result is the same. why spend more?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 November 2015 13: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: atalef
            You understand if the result is the same. why spend more?

            Well, Sanya, what really is it. Let it burn.
        3. askort154
          askort154 25 November 2015 13: 40 New
          +3
          = Alexander Romanov ... Sanya, do you feel sorry for the bombs? And enough for the mines and the bearded

          Yeah! Judging by the type of bomb (rusty stains), on which there was an inscription "For Paris", then this "good" is stored quite a lot.
          This "recycling" has a multi-vector positivity.
        4. dali
          dali 25 November 2015 14: 21 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Sanya, do you feel sorry for the bombs? And enough for the mines and the bearded.
          He just doesn’t feel sorry for the bombs ... he is sorry that when peaceful life begins in Syria, then the Syrians, and maybe Russia will part of it, will get undestructed infrastructure ...

          Because, feeling that they are losing, the mattresses are bombing the peaceful infrastructure, and not the ISIS and others like them, in order to leave, leaving the enemy scorched earth ...
          1. Belousov
            Belousov 25 November 2015 15: 12 New
            0
            Alas, in the near future there is no actual opportunity to recapture oil fields. The forces of the Syrian army during the war years are seriously depleted, even with our support it is difficult for them to carry out massive operations, and then also hold on to the conquered. So, it’s worth bombing, waiting for the Igil-Turks to restore them (and they will definitely restore them), and then once again sag. Thus, at least somehow patting their wallet, the most vulnerable spot.
          2. Belousov
            Belousov 25 November 2015 15: 12 New
            0
            Alas, in the near future there is no actual opportunity to recapture oil fields. The forces of the Syrian army during the war years are seriously depleted, even with our support it is difficult for them to carry out massive operations, and then also hold on to the conquered. So, it’s worth bombing, waiting for the Igil-Turks to restore them (and they will definitely restore them), and then once again sag. Thus, at least somehow patting their wallet, the most vulnerable spot.
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      2. kagorta
        kagorta 25 November 2015 13: 11 New
        +9
        They will then need to be restored.
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 25 November 2015 13: 21 New
          +2
          Strange we are fighting in Syria from the base in Latakia to the place where our Su-24 was shot down only 47,8 kilometers (very close by aviation standards), and ours could not cover ...
          1. kagorta
            kagorta 25 November 2015 13: 56 New
            +1
            So he fired and immediately left. A second matter.
          2. askort154
            askort154 25 November 2015 15: 00 New
            +2
            Lt. Air Force reserve .... Strange we are fighting in Syria from the base in Latakia to the place where our Su-24 was shot down only 47,8 kilometers (very close by aviation standards), and ours could not cover ...

            The president said, "stab in the back." It turns out that they overestimated the "partnership" relations with Turkey. Relaxed.
            Forgot your story. Turks have always been treacherous.
      3. armata37
        armata37 25 November 2015 13: 27 New
        +6
        It seems to cause enormous damage to the environment, since they will burn for a very long time, and no one will go to extinguish. We (Russia) will then be responsible for this. In addition, the mines will come in handy later, but the caravans and the Daesh infrastructure must be destroyed. I can not argue with that
      4. opus
        opus 25 November 2015 15: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        Why chase oil carriers? In my opinion it’s much easier to mine oil mines

        what stupidity! fool
        1.And will Syria (for itself) then buy oil and oil products in Turkey, Iraq and Israel?
        After what was done to her economy?
        Restore a well- months, or years (Kuwait, Iraq)
        Buy fuel truck daily
        Restore roadbed-clock

        2. Recovery cost
        Kuwaiti state-owned company KPC signed a contract with American Fluor and South Korean SK Engineering and Construction for the restoration of Raudhatain wells destroyed by a fire in January 2002. The amount of the contract is 237 million dollars., including foreign companies will invest 107 million. After restoration work, production at the field will increase from 280 to 380 thousand barrels per day, and the capacity of all oil fields in northern Kuwait will increase to 600 thousand barrels per day.

        The cost of a used fuel truck is from 40000

        3.A slaves that plow in oil production, in the wells that control ISIS?
        Should burn out?
        "cheaper"?
        Of course:
        -napalm was used by Israel during the six-day war of 1967 and during the hostilities in Lebanon in the 1980s
        -In Gaza, white phosphorus was used by Israel in residential areas (or lie?)
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  6. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 25 November 2015 12: 50 New
    +7
    Pull you up bastard ......
  7. Wolf
    Wolf 25 November 2015 12: 50 New
    51
    Turks and their temper began with samog! ;)
  8. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 25 November 2015 12: 50 New
    +6
    You will have an accordion and a whistle, as well as relatives, we will not deprive ..
  9. AlexTires
    AlexTires 25 November 2015 12: 51 New
    +5
    Does he have margarine in his head? I suggest that we bring down a Turkish plane, and then make the same statement ....
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 25 November 2015 13: 21 New
      +2
      I’ll clarify - two is better. Again - in Syria.
  10. EvgNik
    EvgNik 25 November 2015 12: 51 New
    19
    That they will not "fan the incident"? Is this what we shot down a Turkish plane? It’s completely overgrown.
    Erdogan also stated that they did not know that the plane was Russian. As if others are flying there. Something I did not hear that ISIS had planes.
    1. ussr1960
      ussr1960 25 November 2015 13: 12 New
      14
      Quote: EvgNik
      Something I did not hear that ISIS had planes.

      Now, apparently, there is, starting with the F-16 shot down our DRY.
  11. I doubt it
    I doubt it 25 November 2015 12: 52 New
    +6
    The enemy, he is the enemy. Have you been expecting anything else from him?
    Especially in a situation like: "... well, who is with us with NATO?"
    Moor has done his job ....
  12. Roman A.
    Roman A. 25 November 2015 12: 52 New
    +2
    terrorists and their accomplices only calm down in the land! then it will be from this eccentric to the letter "M" another dirty trick, I hope ours will not fail!
  13. lukke
    lukke 25 November 2015 12: 52 New
    +2
    Erdoganchik, don’t say anything, just eat ...
  14. barclay
    barclay 25 November 2015 12: 52 New
    15
    We know who Erdogan otmazyvatsya!
    1. sem_juver
      sem_juver 25 November 2015 13: 08 New
      +4
      Turkey has always been a terrorist state, from the very beginning, from the moment of its formation, time has passed, but nothing has changed.
  15. Aleksander
    Aleksander 25 November 2015 12: 52 New
    +5
    Turkish President Erdogan, who was silent like a fish the day before, made several statements at once about yesterday’s tragedy with the Russian Su-24, shot down by Turkish air forces. Moreover, in his statements, Erdogan not only did not call the incident a tragedy, but also did not find the courage to apologize to Russia


    Response to the killing of our people not followed, so he dared, unfortunately, other animals, too. Everything that will be "answered" then-it will be-then. And it was necessary to answer, right away, otherwise respect and fear, pass, IMHO ....
    1. andrey6060
      andrey6060 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
      +5
      There are our 10 people. They’ll take them out and answer for everything at once!
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 25 November 2015 12: 58 New
      +6
      And I had to answer right away,

      It was necessary, but with what? Level a pair of Turkish Air Force bases? Nothing, the answer will come in the form of economic losses. In addition, they drove Moscow there and brought an air defense system to Khmeimim. The southern part of Turkey will be in full view.
      The truth here is the information that the mountains where our pilot was killed are already burning.
      In any case, now no matter how much this Turk puffs up, they will follow abroad. And burn all oil tankers. Hello son, Turkish bastard.
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      2. Aleksander
        Aleksander 25 November 2015 13: 06 New
        +7
        Quote: Wedmak
        The truth here is the information that the mountains where our pilot was killed are already burning.


        These Erdagan "brothers", about whom he is ill and mentions, and it was necessary to burn-revealing, scary and-immediatelyso that he becomes even more painful
  16. pts-m
    pts-m 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
    +3
    maybe ours can supply missiles to Greece for lease. The troopers didn’t intrude into the Greek airspace not so long ago. What’s humanitarian aid to the free people.
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 November 2015 12: 54 New
    +4
    and the rights of our brothers

    Since your brothers are from the jackal family, it’s obvious who you are. Meanness, greed and cowardice have already shown in full.
  18. izya top
    izya top 25 November 2015 12: 54 New
    +4
    Well, well ... now you’ll be afraid of the Kurds bombing even on your territory.
  19. teron
    teron 25 November 2015 12: 54 New
    20
    I previously wrote a lot on the site in favor of sobriety and the adequacy of the Turkish leadership. I was wrong. I take all my positive feedback about the Turkish leaders back.
    Previously, Turkey was not our friend, but now it strives to become an enemy with all its might.
  20. Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 25 November 2015 12: 54 New
    +5
    With a plane crash, he drove his brothers to the graves!
  21. Zolotse
    Zolotse 25 November 2015 12: 55 New
    +4
    What the fuck, he still graciously agrees not to fan the deal with the SU-24. Break on all fronts Erdogashke: financial, political .. etc. Arrange him a hybrid bath with an enema
  22. mildew
    mildew 25 November 2015 12: 55 New
    +8
    Insolent Basurman! But the Russians themselves are to blame. Here is sea, gas, vegetables, fruits. What’s the reason for building a Basurman from nuclear power plants? How many times have you fought with the Turks and taught nothing? The Tatars and Caucasian Islamists supplied with money and weapons, treated, stole. Here and got quite ...... old friends with non-Christians made friendships.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 25 November 2015 12: 59 New
      17
      Bulgaria (officially), as it were, to put it mildly, also behaves in a non-friendly way towards us. And what is the fault of the Russians that they shoot in the back? Or we had to wait until ISIS came to the Caucasus in the army (and by the way, too). In short, someone would have a cow mumbled. Brothers b ... t.
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    3. Bombardier
      Bombardier 25 November 2015 13: 01 New
      10
      With the Bulgarians we are not on the same path - they betray us every time. Betrayed time, betray and again! The whole history of relations between Bulgaria and Russia speaks for it! And the Turks will get what they deserve - you have no doubt ....
    4. Decathlon
      Decathlon 25 November 2015 13: 10 New
      +8
      "... But the Russians themselves are to blame ..."
      This is why the Russians are to blame again ?! Before the Bulgarians did not have enough to make excuses! Brothers, your mother ... am
    5. lis-ik
      lis-ik 25 November 2015 13: 30 New
      -1
      And Belarusians are not to blame for the fact that all smuggling in the Russian Federation comes from Belarus for products from the EU !?
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    7. anderles66
      anderles66 25 November 2015 13: 34 New
      +3
      I apologize. I note that both Bulgaria and Turkey are members of NATO. How so, Bulgarians? I think you don’t have to tell a story about the Ottoman Empire. That's because there is a Master, and under his wing both Bulgaria and Turkey are good. Why is Bulgaria refusing economic projects with Russia? Based on your logic - because they are enemies and always have been. Everything was done correctly by our leadership. The stronger the economic ties, the less likely the conflict, in any case, in the hot phase. But only in one case. When the country's leadership cares not about its personal well-being, but about the country's interests. Sorry, I can’t say this either about Turkey or Bulgaria.
    8. Served once
      Served once 25 November 2015 13: 41 New
      +1
      And what is Bulgaria different from Turkey ??? The policy of prostitution is exactly the same. (This does not apply to all citizens)
    9. purple
      purple 25 November 2015 13: 45 New
      +2
      Bulgarians ... with your attitude towards Russia, we don’t need any enemies ... "bros"
  23. as150505
    as150505 25 November 2015 12: 55 New
    +6
    Instead of a peach, put the stinky black man in your mouth
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 25 November 2015 13: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: as150505
      Instead of a peach, put the stinky black man in your mouth

      He is training (preparing mentally).
  24. DenZ
    DenZ 25 November 2015 12: 56 New
    +4
    Erdogan says that he will continue to support these Turkoman, which means that the probability that he will provide us with the right to revenge is very high. He is very impatient to get to know our air defense systems closer.
  25. Zolotse
    Zolotse 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
    +3
    Erdogan - don't break your teeth
  26. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
    16
    "will continue to defend the rights of the" brothers "" Bilal Erdogan, one of the sons of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, plays a large role in the oil business of Turkey and ISIS. Photos appeared in the media in which the offspring of the Turkish leader poses next to the Islamist field commanders. Business - nothing personal!
    1. Orang
      Orang 25 November 2015 13: 45 New
      +7
      Already wrote and will write again: Erdogan’s son in expense. Bilal Erdogan must die for the dead pilot. Do not pull.
  27. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
    14
    Erdogan is now a war criminal and the Air Force of this country puts Turkey in a number of criminal states, no matter how they justify themselves. How else? They illegally enrich themselves by buying stolen oil and valuables from terrorists, while at the same time supporting these bandits in every possible way, even considering them also brothers and trying to prove to everyone that they are right!
  28. Mercenary
    Mercenary 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
    +6
    Where to inflate already blew a hemorrhoid on his head. Russia stopped supplying Turkish chicken, the first swallow went S-400 being taken to Lataki, so that this suicide was handy to protect the interests of "his brotherhoods" angry
  29. pexotinec
    pexotinec 25 November 2015 12: 58 New
    +4
    They no longer hide the talk of supporting terrorism (gangs and the Islamic State), and the tolerant world is only drumming their tongues into the empty drum. Here it is the true face of the West.
  30. victorsh
    victorsh 25 November 2015 12: 58 New
    +7
    We have no thoughts to fan this incident.
    Those. the Turks will not bill us for the fuel burned by the fighter and the rocket, and also for oil that was not delivered by the militants. THIS IS COOL. One can see Poroshenko’s “tips”.
  31. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 25 November 2015 13: 00 New
    +2
    Right, right, well done Erdogan. It leads directly to the destruction of both Turkey and the allies.
  32. knn54
    knn54 25 November 2015 13: 00 New
    +3
    We shall soon see such a thing as the "cockal jackal."
  33. kursk87
    kursk87 25 November 2015 13: 00 New
    +7
    There is no forgiveness to the leadership of Turkey! Historically, Turkey was an adversary of Russia, unfortunately it remained such.
  34. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 25 November 2015 13: 01 New
    +5
    Heh! Edrogan behaves like a woman. The kipage itself started, and now "Oh, that's it!" laughing
    1. Bradypodidae
      Bradypodidae 25 November 2015 13: 14 New
      +6
      And he didn’t say “Oh, everyone!” He got bored and smiles. The answer didn’t come. And NATO said that it’s like “we’re out of business”, and there were no answers anyway. But now everyone saw that since a member of NATO, you can fool around and you won’t be punished. And ours (Ukrainian) Svidomo now with double zeal will roll about joining NATO.
      The cessation of tourism, the freezing of economic and all sorts of other relations, the possible help to the Kurds, is all well and good. Only the answer should have been different and everyone was waiting for it, but it is not. Therefore, the second day is vile in my heart.
      1. Served once
        Served once 25 November 2015 13: 54 New
        +1
        Tarapitsa is not necessary! -As Comrade Saakhov used to say smile Of course it’s disgusting, meanness is always disgusting. It hurts for our pilot, it hurts for MI-8 and the Marine. East he is: they smile in the face and shoot in the back ... Nothing new. Like 100 and 200 years ago we depend on the straits , the whole operation depends on the precise work of the Syrian express. The revenge of the weak. And we are the Strong. And the GDP is not forgotten, He just writes everything ...
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 25 November 2015 13: 20 New
      +1
      Not myself! You need to think.
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  35. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 November 2015 13: 01 New
    +7
    Erdogan your brothers will soon burn when our planes and sunshine split into molecules the whole area with your fellow citizens in Syria.
  36. 1536
    1536 25 November 2015 13: 02 New
    +5
    Just "Crocodile naval battles." This name was called Eski-Gassan, who commanded the Turkish fleet at the battle of Fidonisi, where F.F. Ushakov, who commanded the Russian sailors. He was distinguished by impudent statements and antics in relation to Russia and Russians.
    Or maybe this ally of terrorists really come up with a nickname, or perhaps he already has one.
  37. mik0588
    mik0588 25 November 2015 13: 02 New
    +3
    Do not forget: the appearance of Russia in the Syrian theater of operations (theater of operations) hit Turkey's vital interests. Talking about terrorists (too emotional a word!) Should not obscure the meaning of what is happening. Daesh ("Caliphate") is connected with Turkey by many threads. Stolen antiquities and oil flow to and through Turkey. Last week, the leadership of the Caliphate made a strategic decision to stop the circulation of the Syrian lira on its territory (which caused its immediate sharp decline), and use the Turkish lira instead.

    The success of the Syrian Kurds encouraged the Turkish Kurds, endangering the integrity of Turkey. The militants of northern Syria pass and are supplied through Turkish territory, and now, as a result of the actions of Russian aviation and Syrian ground troops, a direct threat loomed over them. If they flee to Turkey, the Turks will not seem enough.

    The United States and Europe, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are opposed to Russia in the Syrian war. we would like to sing “In heaven we flew alone” with the French and Americans, but they will not sing along.
  38. DOMINO100
    DOMINO100 25 November 2015 13: 03 New
    +2
    guys! you read very well what your president said, there won’t be any military answer. Well, for a month there will be no Turkish underpants and turbo chewing gum, then silence and build on the gas pipe. The only countries that give the answer are Israel and the United States. So relax.
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 25 November 2015 13: 08 New
      +6
      Have the Western press read? My dear man, Russia has changed, never read the Western press - wait - there will be an answer, you can be sure.
    2. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 25 November 2015 13: 08 New
      +2
      I don’t want to believe it ...
    3. kill the fascist
      kill the fascist 25 November 2015 13: 10 New
      +1
      time will tell what will happen to whom. there will be no full-scale war, and then we will see.
    4. kill the fascist
      kill the fascist 25 November 2015 13: 10 New
      +1
      time will tell what will happen to whom. there will be no full-scale war, and then we will see.
    5. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 25 November 2015 13: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: DOMINO100
      guys! you read very well what your president said, there won’t be any military answer. Well, for a month there will be no Turkish underpants and turbo chewing gum, then silence and build on the gas pipe. The only countries that give the answer are Israel and the United States. So relax.

      It will be necessary, but not now. By the way, only slums will remain in the EU, and the USA will cease to exist, only a little later. Get ready guys.
    6. sem_juver
      sem_juver 25 November 2015 13: 20 New
      0
      So far, it seems that the Turks will not bear any responsibility for the aircraft. The Russian leadership is pushing its cheeks, it will be calculated on TV how many Turkobes will lose from our "sanctions" and will slowly leave this topic. And that’s all! And they created a precedent DANGEROUS, and the whole world will know that it is possible to act against Russia like that!
      I would be glad if I find myself in this wrong.
    7. ussr1960
      ussr1960 25 November 2015 13: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: DOMINO100
      guys! you read very well what your president said

      Oh, the Britons erupted, you have one headache: cowards, chewing gum, LGBT people and crap someone who lives, unlike you, with normal human values ​​and morality.
      Our President clearly said that relations will be reviewed. And unlike your prime minister, OUR PRESIDENT is a real man, with a full understanding of what honor and dignity are. Publicly taking all responsibility for his actions and the person whose words do not diverge from the deed.
      You do not have such and will not, the gut is thin. So relax and have fun when the Middle Eastern “refugees” have you on the banks of the Thames.
      1. DOMINO100
        DOMINO100 26 November 2015 00: 19 New
        -1
        you are constantly throwing examples of gay orientation in Britain say little on these topics! in Russia in each chat someone is offered to take something, to fuck it, etc. so this is the question of who has more LGBT people in the country)))) and refugees are not allowed here to your disappointment.
    8. anderles66
      anderles66 25 November 2015 13: 54 New
      +4
      I partly agree with you. But there is one significant point. All the audacity and strength of Israel is in friendship with the United States. That's all. And the United States has a larger military budget than the combined budget of all other countries in the world combined. And why did you forget the UK? Also a strong and courageous country! Tell us what British troops did in the year before last in Sevastopol, and in the past in Arkhangelsk and Central Asia? And most importantly - why? And who and how stopped Skobelev? Now about the USA. For the attacks of September 11, committed by the Saudis bombed whom? That's right - Afghanistan and Iraq! This, of course, can be admired, especially the results achieved. For me it is obvious - it’s easier to be a gopnik in the gateway (everything is clear there and you are responsible for yourself) than the head of state. They pushed with a shoulder - climbed into the fray. Only for me it is also obvious that jackals like the United States and its "allies" (and in fact - slaves) are just waiting for how to draw Russia into the war and fall into codla.
      1. Kaiten
        Kaiten 25 November 2015 14: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: anderles66
        All the audacity and strength of Israel is in friendship with the United States.

        And to you, who interfered with the answer as it should. You do not look back at the USA. It was necessary last night to bomb their radar which induced the F-16. You do not understand that serious uncles probed your abdomen, and instead of giving a tough answer, you merged and only threaten that you will cease to be friends. This is ridiculous. In BV, such actions look weak. Wait now when the next plane is shot down.
    9. 341712
      341712 25 November 2015 13: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: DOMINO100
      the only countries that give the answer are Israel and the United States. so relax.


      When a Russian hits, he does not measure power .... the consequences will be ... But you will find out later ... Yes, and we too ..
    10. tiheros
      tiheros 25 November 2015 16: 37 New
      +1
      Until people are taken out of Turkey, and this is about 50000 people, no one will say anything, but after a look we’ll see.
    11. Vladimir71
      Vladimir71 25 November 2015 16: 43 New
      0
      If so, then our Crimea will depreciate and the rating will be drastically pushed down as it took off, and there it is not far from the coup. Probably GDP should understand this
  39. Rosty
    Rosty 25 November 2015 13: 06 New
    +5
    But is it time to resume the production of ice axes?
  40. raid14
    raid14 25 November 2015 13: 07 New
    +2
    This is generally arrogance, from impunity with a twist on NATO, instead of at least somehow regulating this incident by diplomatic or other methods, Turkey, with such statements by Erdogan, "climbs on its own."
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 25 November 2015 13: 17 New
      +1
      Yes, it was Erdogan who was let down by his older, western comrades-in-arms. Yeah, Ukraine, too, sharply insolent for no reason. And Georgia ...
  41. Stinger
    Stinger 25 November 2015 13: 08 New
    +5
    To inflate an incident is how? Shouting loudly that the bloodthirsty aggressor Putin attacked Turkey’s lamb directly on the territory of Syria in order to annex stolen oil?
  42. Wolka
    Wolka 25 November 2015 13: 09 New
    +4
    he cracked the bitch, right up to the ass ...
  43. combat66
    combat66 25 November 2015 13: 09 New
    12
    After yesterday's event, there was a definite shock, then the normal reaction of the body was anger to a headache, from impotence. Now comes awareness ...
    And sad conclusions. And they are about the same. Russia received the first and, unfortunately, not the last slap in the face, they will continue in one form or another, in insults, humiliations, or in tragedies (like yesterday). I just looked again at the map of the Black Sea basin, where is Russia, where is Turkey and where is Syria. Without the Bosphorus, the Black Sea turns into a large lake and then we swim here with a pair of forelocks. In politics, everyone has already said everything, we are already under siege. But in the economy it is even worse. From tension with the Turks, Russia is losing, well, a lot! It’s more expensive to shut off the Blue Stream gas, and the construction of a nuclear power plant (well, what a special gift, who signed a contract for the construction of the RF’s own money, the payback period is 20 years), and the gentlemen from Lukoil, who have 300 or more gas stations in Turkey (few Russia and Belarus?), and even a large number of smaller investments.
    So the task of punishing the cowardly scum without much damage to yourself will not work. But, this is already a matter of prestige, pride, respect for the state and people themselves.
    There are no ready-made recipes, this is a job for teams of analysts and specialists. But, there is a clear understanding that all previous economic and political vectors of development need to be redirected.
    This is not a crossing yet, and the Turkish "horse" has already died!
  44. DMB3000
    DMB3000 25 November 2015 13: 09 New
    +3
    Quote: tsvetkov1274
    I wanted to write simple-damp .. write too few words in the comment ... I’ll write ,, double damp ,,,

    I’ll say this. utrokisuchara
  45. oleggun
    oleggun 25 November 2015 13: 11 New
    +4
    bpd ...
    1. Million
      Million 25 November 2015 13: 20 New
      +3
      and ErdoGandon
  46. scrap123
    scrap123 25 November 2015 13: 14 New
    +2
    cowardly jackal, ran to sisi nato
  47. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 25 November 2015 13: 14 New
    +2
    It would be better if the President of Turkey would not say anything ...
  48. IAlex
    IAlex 25 November 2015 13: 16 New
    +7
    GDP again dipped their faces in G..O, if he did not respond in the near future by similarly knocking down or blowing up something, we can expect further knocking down of our aircraft, and not only them, everywhere, including in the Baltic states or near England, for animals become impudent when they feel a decrease in danger to themselves and their permissiveness ...
    1. VS
      VS 25 November 2015 13: 38 New
      +3
      what are you smoking? - what so takes away ...
    2. ussr1960
      ussr1960 25 November 2015 13: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: IAlex
      everywhere, including in the Baltic states or near England

      See heavy dreams from a hangover dreamed? Cucumber pickle pulls well in the morning. wink
  49. Valkh
    Valkh 25 November 2015 13: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: Baikonur
    not only did not call the incident a tragedy, but also did not find the courage to apologize to Russia.

    I don't need your apology! And to relatives and friends of our pilot killed by you! and the marine is also killed because of you!
    You think our squad will not notice the loss of a fighter!
    I would hammer you, gnda, in the throat of this peach!

    And then, his head, - but he’s in the same place !!!!!
  50. marna
    marna 25 November 2015 13: 17 New
    +3
    Erdogan once again assured everyone that a Russian plane was shot down in Turkish airspace

    It is very interesting, four kilometers from the border with Turkey, but the plane was shot down in Turkish airspace. Already the Pentagon, guided by the thermal trail, recognized that the Su-24 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces was located over Syrian territory. Another doppelganger of the Ukrainian President is to blame everything on the healthy one.