"Charles de Gaulle" began operations against IS

The aircraft carrier "Charles de Gaulle", who arrived in the eastern Mediterranean region, launched an operation against terrorist groups in Syria, reports RIA News.

"The aircraft carrier will be ready for service from Monday, November 23," French Defense Minister Le Drian said on Sunday.

The exact location of the aircraft carrier for security purposes is not specified. Presumably, the cruise of the ship will last at least 4-s months.

According to the military, "on the aircraft carrier are 18 fighters Rafale, eight supersonic carrier-based attack aircraft Dassault Super-Etendard, as well as two carrier-based long-range radar detection Hawkeye"

The crew, consisting of sailors, mechanics and pilots, has 1,9 thousands of people.

Comments

[prabiz]

Willingness is good, let's see how you really will work!

[79807420129]

Quote: prabiz

Willingness is good, let's see how you really will work!

But they will really work only when the tanned president Hollande orders, and all the Hollande fuss is only for his voters, like he takes revenge on terrorist attacks. But he takes revenge only when the roasted rooster pecks.

[Now we are free]

Regarding which coalition Russian or American France will join ...
For the sake of honesty, it should be said that Oland is likely to lie / lick again under the United States, even in such a situation as revenge against ISIS for "Paris Friday 13". We are waiting for beautiful pictures with "Raphael" soaring into the sky, smiling French pilots and rockets launched by KhZ where. But Hollande had such a good chance to join the uncompromising Putin and raise his dead rating in France.
As Putin wrote earlier, this is "Dirty Harry" -Sheriff outside the law clamoring for the hypocritical and amorphous laws / values ​​of the West (for which it is outlawed) and killing villains at his discretion for which we are loved by ordinary / adequate residents of almost the entire globe and hate those in power.

Hmm, a partner for "Dirty Harry" from you François from the actual and the avenger from the city ... - bullet.

[arane]

Quote: Now we are free

Regarding which coalition Russian or American France will join ...
For the sake of honesty, it should be said that Oland is likely to lie / lick again under the United States, even in such a situation as revenge against ISIS for "Paris Friday 13". We are waiting for beautiful pictures with "Raphael" soaring into the sky, smiling French pilots and rockets launched by KhZ where. But Hollande had such a good chance to join the uncompromising Putin and raise his dead rating in France.
As Putin wrote earlier, this is "Dirty Harry" -Sheriff outside the law clamoring for the hypocritical and amorphous laws / values ​​of the West (for which it is outlawed) and killing villains at his discretion for which we are loved by ordinary / adequate residents of almost the entire globe and hate those in power.

Hmm, a partner for "Dirty Harry" from you François from the actual and the avenger from the city ... - bullet.

They took it off the tongue! We will not have a brotherhood in arms with them! The French have no booty for this!
They will "work" under the staff.
The beginning of the day with the morning prayer "Assad must go"

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: arane

We will not have a brotherhood in arms with them!

The assistance of France will be productive or not, this is not important.
Russia owns the situation is not very bad. EW tools are used, which do not allow the Western coalition to fully get a picture of what is happening. I admit that the Char-de-Gaulle is an attempt to approach and understand how the Russian Aerospace Forces work, as well as to write down yourself in history - as one of the parties that won the war in the event of the defeat of ISIS.

But what’s important ...
In the future, Russia will need a permanent military presence in Syria. When the problem with ISIS is resolved, it is necessary to consider options for deploying the RF Armed Forces in Syria on an ongoing basis. Syria is the control hub of the Middle East.
And in this regard, the RF Ministry of Defense’s plans to modernize the Navy base in Tartus are encouraging so that ships of any type could moor there.

In general, it would be nice to create a belt of Iran, Iraq, Syria + Russia = geopolitical control of the Middle East, which cuts off the Turk from the Saudis and Qatars on the one hand, and creates geopolitical superiority on the other.

PS
If the participation of the French is real, then this means only one thing - ISIS is gradually coming to an end, and in view of this, we will observe the all-round involvement of various Western countries in this process. After all, "it will not be good" if Russia alone defeats ISIS.

[3officer]

Whether our alliance with France will be productive is another question. But the alliance of France and Britain took place taking the baton from Sweden and starting the search for our submarine (Loch Ness monster, Kraken, Bred, who had drunk the Scottish fisherman) now on the coast of Scotland.

[arane]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Quote: arane

We will not have a brotherhood in arms with them!

The assistance of France will be productive or not, this is not important.
Russia owns the situation is not very bad. EW tools are used, which do not allow the Western coalition to fully get a picture of what is happening. I admit that the Char-de-Gaulle is an attempt to approach and understand how the Russian Aerospace Forces work, as well as to write down yourself in history - as one of the parties that won the war in the event of the defeat of ISIS.

But what’s important ...
In the future, Russia will need a permanent military presence in Syria. When the problem with ISIS is resolved, it is necessary to consider options for deploying the RF Armed Forces in Syria on an ongoing basis. Syria is the control hub of the Middle East.
And in this regard, the RF Ministry of Defense’s plans to modernize the Navy base in Tartus are encouraging so that ships of any type could moor there.

In general, it would be nice to create a belt of Iran, Iraq, Syria + Russia = geopolitical control of the Middle East, which cuts off the Turk from the Saudis and Qatars on the one hand, and creates geopolitical superiority on the other.

PS
If the participation of the French is real, then this means only one thing - ISIS is gradually coming to an end, and in view of this, we will observe the all-round involvement of various Western countries in this process. After all, "it will not be good" if Russia alone defeats ISIS.

All is correct. But I viewed from a different angle! If France begins to act together with Russia, it will be a serious blow to the political reputation of the United States! They will try to prevent this.

[GSH-18]

Quote: 79807420129

Quote: prabiz

Willingness is good, let's see how you really will work!

But they will really work only when the tanned president Hollande orders, and all the Hollande fuss is only for his voters, like he takes revenge on terrorist attacks. But he takes revenge only when the roasted rooster pecks.

Let's not scoff right now. Let's wait until Monday. Well, this is also not an easy matter, it is necessary to organize joint work with our videoconferencing, to distribute goals and so on. Once the aircraft carrier has arrived, it will definitely not be idle, because the operation is being developed jointly with us on the cruiser "Moskva", it will not be possible to take time off and bomb the desert!

[mvg]

Again, people are working on their own wavelength, when you draw a comment about the development of a joint operation on board Moscow, what are you guided by? Again, the source is called "a finger to the sky" and "I made it up myself"?
Yes surrendered to the French and the cruiser Moscow, and in general the Russian Aerospace Forces, and yes, and everyone else .. How is your imagination developed ..

[Colonel]

Quote: mvg

Yes, the cruiser Moscow, and in general the Russian Aerospace Forces, surrendered to the French

I think I gave up. Yesterday Putin set a task for the commander of our naval group to establish interaction with the French group. I think there was a preliminary call and I don't think that Moscow was necessarily the initiator.

[73bor]

The legitimacy of the French in this matter is incomprehensible, no one invited them to bomb in Syria, the ATS will not contact them, in my opinion all this is stupid and there will be no joint operation, the French are already quite reluctant to carry out joint operations, even with the United States, and then in a limited amount, they only dream of Russian scales!

[Moore]

Quote: 73bor

the French are already quite reluctant to conduct joint operations even with the United States

In Yugoslavia, they flew with stripes, as if they were offended in their best feelings - 45 aircraft.
And now they will be smeared, as in World War II - on a crooked goat, they will enter the main winners of the barmalei ...

[arane]

Quote: 73bor

The legitimacy of the French in this matter is incomprehensible, no one invited them to bomb in Syria, the ATS will not contact them, in my opinion all this is stupid and there will be no joint operation, the French are already quite reluctant to carry out joint operations, even with the United States, and then in a limited amount, they only dream of Russian scales!

If together with Russia, then they are provided with legitimacy. This was stated by the ambassador of Syria in Russia! In other words, but the point is

[ancient]

Quote: GSH-18

Well, this is also not a simple matter, we need to organize joint work with our videoconferencing, distribute goals and all that jazz.

That's where such naivety comes from? By stupidity or by not knowing anything at all?
It’s like in your previous comment about "... in 2016 the first two serial T-50 will be adopted" ????

link - http://www.opex360.com/2015/11/22/le-general-de-villiers-nuance-le-rapprochement


-franco-russe-au-sujet-de-la-lutte-daesh-en-syrie /

What a "distribution of goals" and that's all .. other

On November 22, in the newspaper Le Dimanche, General de Villiers clarifications were published regarding the content of his negotiations and explained circumstances of the “Franco-Russian rapprochement”

“On Thursday, for 30 minutes, I spoke on the phone with my colleague General Gerasimov. We brought mutual condolences over the terrorist attacks in which the Russians died in the sky over the Sinai Peninsula and those that happened in Paris.
We discussed the technical means that must be used so that our ships do not “collide” off the coast of Syria. ”!!

“In addition, there is no question of coordinating strikes against the Islamic State with Russia.

Rafale M and Super Étendard Modernisés (SEM) fighters and attack aircraft operating from aircraft carrier Charles-de-Gaulle operate in the Syrian sky in accordance with the mutual agreement on actions to prevent possible dangerous incidents in the airspace of Siri, with possible convergence of aircraft. "

Everything .. CURTAIN !!!

[arane]

Quote: ancient

Quote: GSH-18

Well, this is also not a simple matter, we need to organize joint work with our videoconferencing, distribute goals and all that jazz.

That's where such naivety comes from? By stupidity or by not knowing anything at all?
It’s like in your previous comment about "... in 2016 the first two serial T-50 will be adopted" ????

link - http://www.opex360.com/2015/11/22/le-general-de-villiers-nuance-le-rapprochement



-franco-russe-au-sujet-de-la-lutte-daesh-en-syrie /

What a "distribution of goals" and that's all .. other

On November 22, in the newspaper Le Dimanche, General de Villiers clarifications were published regarding the content of his negotiations and explained circumstances of the “Franco-Russian rapprochement”

“On Thursday, for 30 minutes, I spoke on the phone with my colleague General Gerasimov. We brought mutual condolences over the terrorist attacks in which the Russians died in the sky over the Sinai Peninsula and those that happened in Paris.
We discussed the technical means that must be used so that our ships do not “collide” off the coast of Syria. ”!!

“In addition, there is no question of coordinating strikes against the Islamic State with Russia.

Rafale M and Super Étendard Modernisés (SEM) fighters and attack aircraft operating from aircraft carrier Charles-de-Gaulle operate in the Syrian sky in accordance with the mutual agreement on actions to prevent possible dangerous incidents in the airspace of Siri, with possible convergence of aircraft. "

Everything .. CURTAIN !!!

Thank! Q.E.D!

[ancient]

Quote from rudolf

So we all stuffed into the allies, but the French did not plan to coordinate anything with us.

Absolutely right, friend

But with us .... everything is as it should be ... as in the charter

How I like this "monologue" by Evgeny Evstigneev .. and that's it .... "on the topic"

"The elder ordered ...."

[ANTI.KORR.]

Quote: 79807420129

But revenge only when the roasted cock pecked.

All the same, the Frenchmen did not succeed in serving time behind their backs.
They are big lovers of clinging to someone else’s name, that in the 2nd world, that now, and even then out of necessity, when there is no other way out.

[Diana Ilyina]

Albert, as it was immediately inspired by Keitel’s notorious phrase, at the time of signing the surrender: what, these (meaning the French) defeated us too ?!

[Asadullah]

and what, these (meaning the French) defeated us too ?!

The grimaces of history, Russians, for some reason always attracted the French, who always despised, deceived and taught them. And the Russians scattered with beads. But with the Germans, where two nations thermodynamically supplemented each other’s friend, an eternal war.

[Alexey Boukin]

If indeed the French, like our VKS-Putin, are tasked with working "in conjunction" with our pilots, then we can expect a positive result. In the meantime, it is too early to assess the contribution of the French, as they say, wait and see. But you can expect any "prank", especially if the US intervenes in the actions of the French with its advice.

[Dryuya2]

Quote: Alexey Bukin

In the meantime, it’s too early to assess the contribution of the French, as they say, wait and see

I understand they have one goal, as the Americans said, "the capital of igil"

[73bor]

As the experience of the last operations of the French in Africa shows, these are such micro-operations, moreover, quite successful, the French do not like someone outside to poke their nose into their affairs, their motto is just like Lenin's - "Better less, but better!"

[cniza]

Quote: prabiz

Willingness is good, let's see how you really will work!

God help us, we will not refuse to work together and are ready to help if necessary.

[Asadullah]

God help us, we will not refuse to work together and are ready to help if necessary.

There will be no collaboration. Maximum security approval. But the concentration of NATO forces, in the face of a turning point in Syria in favor of Assad, is not a good sign.

[arane]

Quote: Asadullah

God help us, we will not refuse to work together and are ready to help if necessary.

There will be no collaboration. Maximum security approval. But the concentration of NATO forces, in the face of a turning point in Syria in favor of Assad, is not a good sign.

I agree! Plus, look at the composition of the wing on the tar! They will not do anything substantial on ground targets!
8 attack aircraft, 18 fighters and 2 drills! The composition is more suitable for airborne ship group!

[Asadullah]

The composition is more suitable for airborne ship group!

That's right, dear! The only question is how far Assad will advance in the offensive. Will Turkey bring in troops under the pretext of protecting local Turkmens? Will introduce, with guarantees for the protection of Allies in NATO. What will happen after the real clash between Turkey and Syria? What will the Russian Armed Forces do in this case? What will the NATO fleet do?

Why is Putin, in a fever, looking for a coalition opportunity, anyone? Yes, because he understands this situation. A lightning victory with the help of the VKS did not work, due to the very strong defense defense and excellent supply of terrorists. In which only the lazy did not take part. Not because the scum sympathized with, which can only be crushed, crushed and crushed, by a tank, a bulldozer, a sapper, a hammer, everything that comes to hand, but because the money does not smell. Qatar and the United States unfasten the crunchy, not counting, the United States covers the legal field and the media, Israel provides calculations. It got to the point that the secondary arms market is empty! All bought up for terrorists !!! This is a paradox of history, this has not happened in the history of civilization and will go into textbooks. Unless of course, there will be someone to read them.

And the question is, why is this being done? And in order to unleash a war between Turkey and Iran. And the Arab monarchies direct this with the help of their American lobby. Where the Jews began to play a bureaucratic second role. Truly wonderful are your deeds, Lord! The American nation first enriched the dark camels with everything with its printing press, and then entered into an alliance with them for world domination. Damn, ten years ago, would spit in the face to someone who would say this ....

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Asadullah

It got to the point that the secondary arms market is empty! All bought up for terrorists !!! This is a paradox of history, this has not happened in the history of civilization and will go into textbooks.

How so?
You must have meant hiding?
I suppose that the arms market goes into the shadows and. partially underground.
Accordingly, prices are rising ...

[RUSS]

The exact location of the aircraft carrier for security purposes is not specified. Presumably, the cruise of the ship will last at least 4-s months.
Today the news reported that Charles de Gaulle is in the Persian Gulf.

[RUSS]

Quote: RUSS

Today on the news reported that "Charles de Gaulle" in the Persian Gulf

Minusovshchiki! Here is a quote from the site of the First channel
-The Syrian army liberated the city of Mkhin, which is located in the west of the country near the strategically important Damascus-Homs highway. The battles for the village went on for 20 days.
Bashar al-Assad's army continues to attack in almost all directions. It succeeds in achieving success with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces, which continue the operation of retaliation against the militants of the Islamic State group banned in our country.
Today, the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle may begin to strike at the positions of the extremists. He has already arrived in the Persian Gulf. Vladimir Putin instructed the Russian military to establish cooperation with French colleagues. According to Western media, the first contacts have already taken place - so far, however, they are limited to navigation issues

[3officer]

So where did he get to the shores of Syria or the Persian Gulf?

[asar]

Timur! Good all!
Contact is established between us and them!
Contact is established - we and they!
We and they - here the "crocodile" will throw us to the fighters from the Inlegion, then contact will take place! Maybe we will, if not friends, but we will be partners ?!
Joint raid, joint raid of the air forces of both countries ...!
We’ll see, there are forty minutes left
Wish us good luck!

[ANTI.KORR.]

Quote: asar

Wish us good luck!

Good luck, you guys!
Take care of yourself!!!

[3officer]

Rustem Mutually!
What will not be boring is for sure!

[U-96]

Quote: 3officer

So where did he get to the shores of Syria or the Persian Gulf?

British write about the eastern Mediterranean:
(by the way, there are beautiful pictures of Charles: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328678/Le-Gun-French-military-ready-bli
tz-ISIS-aircraft-carrier-Charles-Gaulle-bears-Syria.html)

[3officer]

The "Queen of the Seas" clearly understands the world's oceans better than geographers from the first.))

[aleks 62 next]

.... by the way, there are beautiful pictures of Charles: ...

..... For my taste, "Clemenceau" was more beautiful than Charles .... It's a pity they disposed of ...

[U-96]

Quote: aleks 62 next

..... For my taste, "Clemenceau" was more beautiful than Charles .... It's a pity they disposed of ...

I do not argue) Its disposal is also that epic) However, the French firstborn, Bearn, also got an interesting story. Although, frankly, his tongue does not dare to call him a handsome and combat veteran)

[Alekseir162]

So where did he get to the shores of Syria

A group of French naval ships headed by the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle arrived on the Syrian coast this night. The squadron is escorted by a frigate of the naval forces of Belgium and a destroyer of the Royal Navy of Great Britain.

Read in full: http://newsrbk.ru/news/2551145-francuzskiy-avianosec-pribyil-k-beregam-sirii-dly
a-ataki-na-ig.html
And then, they are going to contact Russian ships.

[Seaman77]

Quote: RUSS

Minusovshchiki! Here is a quote from the site of the First channel

It looks like Channel One is working for French counterintelligence. The tracks are confused ...))))

Either the "victim of the exam" is responsible for the news, which is more likely.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Seaman77

the "victim of the exam" is responsible for the news there

The West introduced the worst weapon against Russia ...

[LVMI1980]

In my opinion there was a phrase about what they planned in the Persian Gulf but outplayed in Syria ...

[Ajent cho]

for now, however, they are limited to navigation issues

The idea ... And de I am? ..

[Air Force captain]

Vague doubts torment me ..... Frances are still allies. They’ll create tricks from the Amer under our dome ... it’s not for nothing that Uland first went to Fashington and then to Moscow ... and before all this I settled down off the coast of Syria ... oh, I don’t believe them ...

[Bugor]

They won't be under the dome. Imagine the state of an attack pilot in combat: "This is for you, s ... ki, for Paris" !!!
No matter what the French are, they are patriots! They have the whole story on patriotism.
So they will not be naughty.

[V.ic]

Quote: Bugor

No matter what the French are, they are patriots! They have the whole story on patriotism.

Yes, yes, they especially showed it on June 22, 1940, in a significant place and the same scenery. / De Gaulle and the pilots of Normandy-Niemen are an exception.

[Bugor]

The thing is probably in the mentality, as they say right now ..
The war is lost, the enemy is at the door - they are ready to lie Under the enemy.
But so far they are on horseback ...

[SCHWERIN]

Yeah, patriots! The girls of the Wehrmaks delighted, the German brand was accepted everywhere. They are obliged to Stalin that they invited the dock for signing. about surrender. Allies, damn it.

[Tor5]

We’ll wait and see the real results of work.

[Goga101]

prabiz - and how to "work" then? Rafali for ground targets is about nothing, and eight attack aircraft are not a great force ... it is generally not clear why it was necessary to drive the AUG there when no one bothers them to work from ground airfields in Iraq, which they did before, sluggishly, but after all, they flew, and here the aircraft carrier ... the pont is empty. So why the states - and the aircraft carriers are the largest and there are not a few of them, but in Yugoslavia, in Iraq - up to 90% of combat missions were from the ground, from aircraft carriers, for advertising ...

[Bugor]

You're right. The empty show-off is called: "Demonstration of Power"
Let at least eight attack aircraft be launched. It's not just "Rooks" to sip soup ...

[Bashibuzuk]

Among other things .... the French agreed on the use of aircraft with the Syrian government, with Assad?
And then the first flight can turn sideways. They put a racket on Hi-Ethandar and hello.
Or are the French going to fly through Turkey?
...
After all, the Syrian government issued a statement that any use of force inconsistent with them on the territory of Syria would be regarded as aggression.
And here, the French are working with us, they are not working, the Syrians are somehow up to the bulb.
I think so.

[Bugor]

Without the consent of our air defense, they will not go there. It is suspected that Moskva is there precisely to coordinate with Kupol.
From smart I write, I'm sorry for AshiPki.

[Denis Obukhov]

I don't understand something ... De Gaulle in the Persian Gulf? Then what can we talk about the interaction of the Russian Aerospace Forces with him. I am reading "The ship has 18 Rafale fighters, eight Dassault Super-Etendard supersonic carrier-based attack aircraft, and two Hawkeye carrier-based early warning aircraft."

Even if this floating golf course lands near the coast of Iraq, which I doubt very much, its eight stormtroopers will not even be able to reach the Syrian border (there is at least 900 km in a straight line), since their radius of action is 850 km. Rafaeli, although they have a range of 1800 km as an interceptor, as a strike aircraft, that is, missiles and bombs, can fly away from the aircraft carrier only 1100 km, which means that they will reach the maximum Deir ez-Zor , if they will fly in a straight line, And even Rakku will not get it.

So De Gaulle aimed at Iraq, not at Syria. And this is good, if the French do not help, then at least they will not do much harm.

[sherp2015]

Quote: prabiz

Willingness is good, let's see how you really will work!

As if more interference would not create us, i.e. not so much help as it will interfere ...

[meriem1]

With the Lord !!! All are not strangers, although Catholics !!! And the Russians .... they will always help and will not ask anything later !!! Well show yourself! In WWII, Normandy-Niemen pilots were good! Let's see how the grandchildren will wet the reptile !!!! I really do not want to be disappointed !!!!

[Barboskin]

In WWII, Normandy-Niemen pilots were good! Let's see how the grandchildren will wet the reptile !!!!

And the name of the ship obliges!

[Tiger4]

For the ship, the name is not very ((((Not De Gaulle was an admiral!

[Tiger4]

He was a good general (in the general meat grinder of World War II), a good president (until the protests began), but he was not an admiral, in whose honor the ship can be called. France did not have worthy admirals, even F.F.Ushakov drenched them !

[kil 31]

Now, if you remove the quotation marks in the header, it would be the case. He would not listen to amers, who is good who is bad. I would wet all the bearded for him beloved France and the French. Some historians say that for such a freedom-loving nature he was removed from his post.

[Bugor]

Historians say that he loaded the ship with green bills and said: "Gold for them" ....
Therefore, France and NATO have strange relations, unlike the World Bank, for example.
He was freedom-loving. But the people did not choose him.

[oblako]

With the Lord !!! All are not strangers, although Catholics !!! And the Russians .... they will always help and will not ask anything later !!! Well show yourself! In WWII, Normandy-Niemen pilots were good! Let's see how the grandchildren will wet the reptile !!!! I really do not want to be disappointed !!!!

Don't be disappointed for a minute ... 18 pilots fought in the Normandie-Niemen squadron, 18! - Karl !! the rest is technical staff. And a million French volunteers fought on Hitler's side against Russia. So everything is the same. But our cause is right, well, in general, you know ...

[RUS96]

For me, duck with this evil (igil), even with the devil together.

[nablydatel]

until the thunder strikes the Frenchman stirs from his wine barrels and frogs

[Black Colonel]

There was an article stating that the French were bombing the Ishilovites with the approval of the Kurds. Where do they interestingly take off from?

[Dezinto]

Hmm. And I want to believe in their sincere help. And at the same time you think - did they not get a call from Washington? With the "clarification" of coordinates, where you can fly and where you can not.

[Mihalich17]

And here is the replacement of the slogan for the French and the Euro-Europeans arrived in time!
I propose - "I am CHARLES de Gaulle !!!"
Interestingly, they will start to run with such a sign !?

[U-96]

Quote: Mihalich17

And here is the replacement of the slogan for the French and the Euro-Europeans arrived in time!
I propose - "I am CHARLES de Gaulle !!!"
Interestingly, they will start to run with such a sign !?

this requires a minimum of Sh.d.G. sink. Then, of course, they will. The tablets appear in memory of the victims, and not as fans.

[solvi]

Let's see what determination the White House will allow the French to show. For some reason, it seems that there will be much more noise than serious actions.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Have they already received permission to fly over Syrian territory from the Syrian authorities?

[Jurkovs]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Have they already received permission to fly over Syrian territory from the Syrian authorities?

That is the whole question. According to the definition of target designation, the French do not have adequate capabilities with ours and Amer’s. It means either contacting the Baghdad focal point or trusting the American data. In the first case, an automatic invitation from Assad, in the second it is not clear how we will interact with them.

[U-96]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Have they already received permission to fly over Syrian territory from the Syrian authorities?

Quote: Jurkovs

That is the whole question.

and what is the question? The Syrians made it clear that an agreement with the Russian Federation = an agreement with Syria. What is the problem?

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Simple as that. What is the problem?
The problem is that in this case no one will ask anyone for permission.
Why should the French have to negotiate with Russia? On what grounds? "Made it clear"?
This will mean fly whoever wants to. Turks, for example, will fly without asking. So what? Russia can now bring them down on the basis of what the Syrians have made clear. Now we’ll wet the concepts?

[U-96]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

With what fright should the French agree with Russia? On what basis?

Yes, for God's sake - no, no, no. Hollande on the 26th to Putin goes to Mistral poker to lose ....

[COBA]

Western special services, through the barmaley, arranged "terrorism" for the frogs. Now they show a warlike spirit and want to play war, only no one invited them to Syria, and no one shared intelligence information. An obvious and long-worked scenario, the main goal of which is to prevent Russia and Iran from helping Syria establish a legal order on their land.

[starwars]

PARIS, Nov 22 - RIA Novosti, French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, which leads a group of ships that arrived in the Eastern Mediterranean on Sunday night, will be ready to launch an operation against terrorists in Syria on Monday, Nov.23, French Defense Minister Jean said -Yves Le Drian. [Media = http: //vk.com/away.php? To = http: //ria.ru/syria_chronicle/201511
22 / 1326159968.html & post = 226328310_3308]

[katalonec2014]

They came, they came, and the targets where they will take it, inadvertently hook the "moderate" immediately raise a cry, the French sold themselves to Assad. True, there are two almost no losing options, the first one is to bomb Raqqa (in this case, there is no need to worry about civilian casualties, the Western press without a shadow of hesitation, he will credit it to us) well, and actually the second one, fuel trucks and oil fields.

[bugrovata]

It’s hot for the French - right away with us in a coalition! And usraina and profits are always and in any case against!

[RUSS]

Quote: starwars

The French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, which leads the group of ships that arrived on Sunday night in the Eastern Mediterranean region,

“Charles de Gaulle” (French Charles de Gaulle, R91) - the flagship of the French Navy, the only active aircraft carrier of the French Navy, the first French surface combat ship with a nuclear power plant. Among aircraft carriers of other countries, excluding the United States, it is the second largest (after the Russian heavy aircraft carrier cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov) and the most combat-ready aircraft carrier.

He came to replace the outdated Clemenceau aircraft carrier.

Main characteristics
Displacement 42 tons full
Length 261,5 m
Width 64,36 m
Height 75 m
Engines Two water nuclear reactors K15
27 nodes travel speed
Autonomy of swimming 45 days
Crew 1200 people. team + 600 people air group + 100 people. command

An electric power plant with a total capacity of 21,4 MW includes 4 turbo-generators with a capacity of 4 MW each, 4 turbogenerators with a capacity of 0,25 MW each, and 4 diesel generators with a capacity of 1,1 MW each [1].

Air Group includes [1]

36 Super Etandar or Rafal-M fighter-bombers
2-3 aircraft AWACS E-2C "Hokai"
2 search and rescue helicopters AS-565 MB Panther
A characteristic feature of the air group is the predominance of attack aircraft and the absence of anti-submarine squadrons. For comparison, American aircraft carriers of the Nimitz type with a displacement of about 100 tons carry 000 attack fighters and 48 anti-submarine helicopters [8].

Air defense facilities include [1]:

SAM "Aster 15" (Aster 15): two 8-container installations of vertical launch, located on the starboard side in front of the superstructure, the other two - on the left side in the rear of the ship, the range of destruction of the aerodynamic target SAM "Aster 15" is 30 km;
SAM "Sadral" (Sadral): two 6-container launchers on the starboard and port side, 35-45 m behind the launchers of the Aster "
8 20-mm single-barrel artillery mounts Giat 20F2 (720 rds / min).
Electronic weapons include [1]:

BIOS “Zenit 8” (Senit Combat Management System, Model 8), capable of simultaneously tracking up to 2000 targets on the surface, in the air and on the coast and automatically controlling the Aster 15 air defense system. The system can play the role of a hub of a communication network of 50 nodes, including ships, planes and ground command posts.
Radar detection of air targets DRBJ-11V;
3-coordinate radar detection of air and surface targets DRBV-15D;
Radar early warning airborne targets DRBV-26D;
2 navigation radars DRBN-34 (Decca 1229);
Flight control radar Racal-1229 and NP \ BP-20A;
AREL fire control radar;
optoelectronic station for detecting air and surface targets DIBV-I Vampir.

[Jurkovs]

Target designation from where will receive? From the focal point in Baghdad or from amers? In the first case, it automatically means receiving an invitation from Assad, in the second, unauthorized bombing of the type of Americans. And how then should we interact with the paddling pools? Too many questions and no answers to them.

[AlexTires]

French Defense Ministry Le Drian argues that the main goals are Mosul, Racca, as well as oil fields, while Assad will not be notified of his plans in Syria.

[red_october]

Assad said that the actions of the French (and others) are legitimate only when coordinating their actions through Moscow

[AlexTires]

The Chief of the General Staff of France, Pierre de Villiers, stated the lack of coordination with Russia of air strikes on the “Islamic State” in Syria .. Conclusion?

[Dezinto]

The minusator ran over. As usual, without reason or argument .... just cuckoo ....- here's all the minus ....

[rotmistr60]

Appears systematically, minus even neutral comments. That's what moderators need to pay attention to.

[Lord_Sita]

The exact location of the aircraft carrier for safety reasons is not indicated.

Why such secrecy? Are they afraid that ISIS destroyers (cruisers, frigates, etc.) will sink Charles?

[Tiger4]

Show off! In our satellite age, such an "iron" can be seen at a glance!

[Stinger]

Supported by sanctions for six months, you can now rush to victory together. Interestingly, prostitution is the main value of the West? Or just Hollande.

[AlexTires]

If this floating golf course gets off the coast of Iraq, which I doubt very much, its eight stormtroopers will not even be able to reach the Syrian border (there is at least 900 km in a straight line), since their radius of action is 850 km. Rafaeli, although they have a range of 1800 km as an interceptor, as a strike aircraft, that is, missiles and bombs, can only fly away from an aircraft carrier by 1100 km, which means that they will reach a maximum of Deir ez-Zor , if they will fly in a straight line, And even Rakku will not get it.
So De Gaulle aimed at Iraq, not at Syria. And this is good, if the French do not help with anything, then at least they will not do much harm ..

[U-96]

Quote: AlexTires

If this golf course gets off the coast of Iraq

OK. The Mediterranean coast of Iraq is strong even for the exam ...

Quote: AlexTires

So De Gaulle aimed at Iraq, not at Syria.

Is logical. Therefore, he is in the eastern Mediterranean ....

[AlexTires]

Quote: U-96

Quote: AlexTires

If this golf course gets off the coast of Iraq

OK. The Mediterranean coast of Iraq is strong even for the exam ...

Quote: AlexTires

So De Gaulle aimed at Iraq, not at Syria.

Is logical. Therefore, he is in the eastern Mediterranean ....

Some media reports that De Gaulle is in the Persian Gulf, hence my conclusions ... French Defense Ministry Le Drian argues that the main goals are Mosul and other deposits ...

[U-96]

Quote: AlexTires

French Defense Ministry Le Drian argues that the main goals are Mosul and other deposits ...

Well, geographically, IS is located in Syria and Iraq. Perhaps you are right about the division of spheres of activity between the air forces and air forces of Fr., who knows. You just proceeded from the fact that Sh.d.G. (in vain you, by the way, scornfully call him a golf course ) creeps into the Persian Gulf, but this is not quite so)

[AlexTires]

well, about the site ... I think it may turn out that he will be dragged back in tow because it is a very problematic aircraft carrier, which stood longer in the dock than on combat duty ... Well, in principle, yes .. could have gone too far

[U-96]

Quote: AlexTires

Well, about the site ... Well, in principle, yes .. could have gone too far

[rotmistr60]

At a time when Russia is ready, on the instructions of the president, to cooperate with the French as allies, France at the European civil strife, led by the United States, decides to extend the sanctions against us. This is how real "allies" act in Europe. They will probably also fight behind the scenes.

[DMB3000]

Quote: prabiz

Willingness is good, let's see how you really will work!

it seems to me they will begin to bomb the oil refineries of government forces

[askort154]

Let's see how Oland behaves after tomorrow's meeting with Obama. Surely he will receive a fly-screen for the manifest
"independence", enter into a coalition with Russia.

[V.ic]

Well, now that's it! Queues for hairdressers, a shortage of Muslim women's clothing and paranja ... Isil runs away in fear, writing on the go... Well, Monsieur, where have you been before, ball-skiers! The Russians taught you in 1814: "Quickly-quickly-bistro"Bad students turned out to be.

[U-96]

Quote: V.ic

Well, now that's it! Queues for hairdressers, a shortage of Muslim women's clothing and paranja ... Isil runs away in fear, writing on the go... Well, Monsieur, where have you been before, ball-skiers! The Russians taught you in 1814: "Quickly-quickly-bistro"Bad students turned out to be.

What was it? And why?

[V.ic]

Quote: U-96

What was it?

There was much in the world ... and sewed, and soap.

Quote: U-96

И to what?

You don't need anything... I expressed my "delight" at the upcoming participation of the "Gallic cockerel" in the fight with ISIS "jackals".

[U-96]

Quote: V.ic

You don’t need anything.

I agree. Your grumbling yawns.

[V.ic]

Quote: U-96

Your grumbling yawns.

Take care of yourself, when yawning, hold the jaw with your hands, so as not to accidentally dislocate the jaw joint! Although, if you lead your clan from an viper tribe, then you do not need my sympathy (snakes do not dislocate).

[U-96]

Quote: V.ic

if you are descending from an viper tribe, then you don’t need my sympathy (snakes do not dislocate).

and I'll give you a plus. As one statesman of RI used to say: "Dypakov should also be encouraged, because boredom is without them ..."

[V.ic]

Quote: U-96

I'll put you a plus.

Benefactor! What would I do without your plus? The total number of minuses on this site I probably exceed the number of your pluses.

Quote: U-96

As one state husband of RI used to say: “Dypakov should also be encouraged,

As my colleague in the Far East (pseudonym COMBAT) said: "Salaga, I have more absenteeism than your length of service!" I will not minus or add you in this case, you just did not deserve the second, although for the "Fools .." you could apply the first ... I prefer to minus only foreign trolls myself, but I took note of you and I will not fail to "insert the piston" (only well-deserved). Until next time!

[red_october]

Finally!
And that's all: "Charles de Gaulle is going to leave" ... "Charles de Gaulle is sailing" ... "Charles de Gaulle is still sailing" ... "... sailed and will start on Monday" ...
And then he immediately started the operation ...

[INF]

We will wait for the results, but something tells me for the jackdaw that's all.

[Zomanus]

Still need to look how and who will be bombed.
I do not exclude the option of "friendly fire"
in the Syrian and Iranian army.
Like "made a mistake, with whom it does not happen."
Well, the most advantageous and safe
the option would be to bomb the oil convoys.

[Lapot]

Video of the combat departure of the Tu-160 bomber:

[Black Colonel]

I am tormented by vague doubts - will French have enough BC to process ISIS? And I remember when the paddlers plowed Libya, so after a while they asked for the loan of cruise missiles (if memory serves) from the amers.

[roskot]

And we'll see where you flew.

[shurik-063]

If there are knowledgeable people, explain how the French will work under the EW dome? Will they install our equipment on them or will they turn off the dome for the duration of the flights of French aviation? Or will they be allowed to work at a certain frequency?

[Dezinto]

If there are knowledgeable people, explain how the French will work under the EW dome? Will they install our equipment on them or will they turn off the dome for the duration of the flights of French aviation? Or will they be allowed to work at a certain frequency?

You dear to such questions, I also want to ask questions ..

I mean ... well, why such questions? ... maybe ask me to clarify the coordinates of Russian and French ships in the Mediterranean ??

And what ammunition on board? .... and how much fuel? and what is the plan of action?

In the photos I hinted you where to turn ...

[3officer]

Oh, and the doors after the terrorist attack have already been changed!

[mvg]

You know, if you don't tell the French about the electronic warfare "dome", I'm afraid they won't notice it .. Only ours (KRET) stubbornly notice it, nobody else is interested in it.

[rotor]

Charles de Gaulle arrives in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea to join the operation against ISIS

[North]

"two Hawkeye carrier-based early warning aircraft."

planes, missiles of the Russian Federation - will be trained to track in the first place. Well, the rest as necessary. do not forget France is NATO.

[dchegrinec]

The strength is not impressive, but the help is real! Let's see what this force will do there! Maybe the terms of the operation can be significantly reduced together. I would not want to transfer this bagpipe to the next year ..

[iv-nord]

Joint blows will bring the end of the igles closer. There may be warming between countries on this wave. After all, the French pilots fought with the Nazis along with the Soviet in Normandy-Niemen. True on our airplanes.

[iouris]

The aircraft carrier was sent to bolster France's claims to a special role in the upcoming redistribution of the B.Vostok. Cooperation with those who are waging a total war of destruction against Russia as a subject of economics and politics means pulling chestnuts out of the fire, I think so. Our Western and Ukrainian "partners" in the coffin saw us in white slippers. This is indicated by Yabloko's very clear position.

[U-96]

Quote: iouris

Ukrainian "partners" in the coffin saw us in white slippers.

I didn’t quite understand something: what about the xoxly? They also pretend

Quote: iouris

on a special role in the upcoming redistribution of B. Vostok.

?

[tolian]

U-2, are you portraying or really "smart"?

[Support]

Honestly, for me, the napig frogs would not have fallen. Freeloaders. They supported Hitler throughout the Second World War, but in the end ended up in a group of winners. What a fright? Then it was necessary to all who at the end of the war abandoned Adolphus, record in the winners. And now, too, the igil will come to an end, and these snail lovers will beat with a heel in the chest, that they have made a greater contribution than Russia. The dives .....

[win]

The French are just about to bomb the terrorists, but already note that they will do it as efficiently as possible, withоintensity.
Compared to whom?
Really with the Russian?
With your 18 fighters and 8 attack aircraft?
Here's how PR...

[red_october]

Wait, they will follow the Americans together with the video from the website of our Defense Ministry tyrit and pass off as their own: "Look how we are bombing!"

[win]

We flew to the bombing 2(as many as two!) attack aircraft.
Were in the air 7hours with refueling.
On the road intercepted a group of terrorists and destroyed.
As well as several tanks.
Oooh what efficiency!

[tvgpvo]

I have vague doubts about the effectiveness of the blows. 8 stormtroopers is of course a "mighty" group.

[msm]

"Trust, but verify"We need MANPADS ... but how can we use them in Syria so as not to lose? That's the question

[chunga-changa]

It was not long ago considered that it makes no sense to use our Kuznetsov in Syria, there are few planes, few bombs, he himself is small. But the French, instead of reasoning, took even smaller AV with the same air group and applied it.

[gammipapa]

Most likely I'm wrong, but as an option.
But is there an arrival of this aircraft carrier with the aim of destroying it there? Everyone is waiting for how to ignite the wick of war in an adult, so that literally everyone gets involved. Amerikosy masters of different setups. If you add up the links of one chain, how to make the world fight, and make profit and sit on it yourself - according to plan.
1- flood EU with refugees and militants
2- organize attacks
3- it is fair to direct anger where necessary and send EU troops to hell
4 - organize the death of these same military
5- well, now beat your foreheads there to death, and we will help (not free of course)
like a note.

What exactly is the EU, and not Russia? everything is also very predictable, the EU has all nuclear reserves under the tight control of America, and Russia is not very predictable.