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Crimea was left without electricity

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All settlements of the Republic of Crimea were left without electricity, coming to the peninsula from Ukraine on four lines, reports TASS. The information was confirmed in the Ministry of Emergency Situations and in the company "Krymenergo".




"The Crimea is completely disabled, I can not give details yet,"
said company director Victor Plakida.

Power engineers first of all began to connect life-support objects to reserve sources.

“Now all backup power sources are used, including mobile generators and power plants. First of all, social objects and life support objects are connected, ”a source in the republican government told the agency.

To coordinate the activities of all services dealing with this problem, an operational headquarters has been established in the Ministry of Energy of Crimea.

We will remind, on Friday it was reported about damage in the Kherson region 2-x transmission towers leading to the peninsula. As a result, two of the four lines had to be turned off.

Crimeans were notified of a possible limitation of electricity supply. Residents were asked to “charge the batteries, stock up with water and without the need not to turn on electrical appliances during the hours of morning and evening peak loads.”

However, later the head of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Sergey Aksyonov, told journalists that there was no threat of disconnection.

“The headquarters mobilized all employees who should be responsible for the accuracy and safety of electricity supply in the territory of the Republic of Crimea. All were in the workplace, were ready. But, nevertheless, there were no outages, it was not necessary to introduce restriction graphs, he said.
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 November 2015 08: 26 New
    87
    Degenerates !.

    Curious, what's the point? The Crimeans, according to their plan, should immediately appear, apologize that they did not voluntarily eat glass, and ask that they return to "ETU" Ukraine?
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 22 November 2015 08: 32 New
      36
      A typical trick for dill - nothing surprising in this. Panic and hysteria, plus complete sexual impotence to do anything.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 22 November 2015 10: 31 New
        76
        This is not a trick, but a terrorist attack and it should be treated the same way. Now these lessons around the blown power lines are crowded, the repairmen are not allowed in, and they are shining a placard in front of the cameras. In my opinion, each of us needs to be put on the wanted list for terrorism, to appoint a reward, albeit a small one, and to carry out the necessary forceful actions by our special services for detention or liquidation. Plus, the main Tatarodegenerate Lyanurov has a business in the Crimea. Confiscate all the way to the erased underpants. Those who are crowded around him also probably have property in the Crimea - so also confiscate. This act is enough to declare the Mejlis a terrorist organization and prohibit everything connected with it. In my opinion, the guys started playing partisans and crossed the line beyond which the igil and nusra hang out.
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 22 November 2015 10: 45 New
          16
          Ukram it's a shame that they forgot about them, everyone switched to Syria

          We need to draw attention to ourselves, and the West must again blame Russia for something

          We are waiting for more provocations
          1. larand
            larand 22 November 2015 12: 00 New
            +5
            Quote: bulvas
            Ukram it's a shame that they forgot about them, everyone switched to Syria
            We need to draw attention to ourselves, and the West must again blame Russia for something
            We are waiting for more provocations


            Waiting for more provocations is Medvedev's. Almost two years have passed and still the power lines in the Crimea have not been extended. The government has lost its grip in all its glory, only they can stuff and they can, damn secret people.
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 22 November 2015 12: 36 New
              13
              Quote: larand
              Almost two years have passed and still the power lines in the Crimea have not been extended.



              It seems like this December they should finish

              Although, maybe someone knows and knows how to do it faster?

              Just remember a good Russian proverb about coolies tossing and turning


              1. captain
                captain 22 November 2015 17: 19 New
                +9
                Gentlemen commenting! I read your comments and I am surprised to learn that it turns out to be sloppiness, mediocrity, hatred and connivance of our leaders, Ukrainians are to blame !!. Now I understand why we have bad roads, the Americans are to blame. And the Germans are apparently selling gasoline. And the Jews destroyed our aviation industry. based on some comment. The fact that Ukraine could stop supplying electricity to Crimea was warned by Dr. Ioffe in February 2014, at the same time he was proposing a solution to this issue, which he had been proposing to resolve within a maximum of nine months. The Urals proposed to build several gas power plants in a very short period. Is it really so naive in our government? that could not calculate this question? I suggest that until the bridge is built, make it drawable. and then the Ukrainians will launch a ship 40m high and destroy the bridge. they will not ask us for permission, because they consider the Kerch Strait their own. And then it will be too late to be angry, it will be necessary to restore the destroyed for a long time and again the Ukrainians will be to blame.
                1. Throw
                  Throw 22 November 2015 18: 24 New
                  0
                  And in what place do you tell me to draw a drawbridge? In each? wassat

                  In general, it's time to finish the tolerance and turn off the gas.
                  All the flies themselves will restore and give current.
                2. forest park 86
                  forest park 86 22 November 2015 21: 50 New
                  +1
                  It is necessary to give "independent" more money. otherwise they’ll break the bridge. Probably there will be protection, or what?
            2. Pancho
              Pancho 22 November 2015 13: 52 New
              +8
              Quote: larand
              The government of blunders in all its glory

              Are they self-appointed? Do not depend on anyone? You lift your head from the sand and look around and suddenly you will see that we live in the PRESIDENTIAL REPUBLIC.
              1. Baikonur
                Baikonur 22 November 2015 15: 16 New
                +5
                chshchshchshch! Dangerously! Caution! bully Such things say "provocatively revolutionary"!
              2. larand
                larand 22 November 2015 17: 33 New
                -1
                Quote: Pancho
                Quote: larand
                The government of blunders in all its glory

                Are they self-appointed? Do not depend on anyone? You lift your head from the sand and look around and suddenly you will see that we live in the PRESIDENTIAL REPUBLIC.


                Before you write about your head and sand, you would read the previous comments of the person you are teaching.
                1. Pancho
                  Pancho 22 November 2015 20: 04 New
                  0
                  Quote: larand
                  Before you write about your head and sand, you would read the previous comments of the person you are teaching.

                  Firstly, I’m not teaching anyone, why did you draw such a conclusion? Secondly, could you point me to the place in my comment where I’m wrong?
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                  2. larand
                    larand 23 November 2015 10: 59 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Pancho

                    Firstly, I’m not teaching anyone, why did you draw such a conclusion? Secondly, could you point me to the place in my comment where I’m wrong?


                    My koment from 20.11
                    "If the president is not able to throw these" zablabov "and recruit 20 sensible ministers, then either he is at the same time as those who are now felling the country, or do not own the situation." Any questions?
                    1. Pancho
                      Pancho 23 November 2015 19: 54 New
                      -1
                      Quote: larand
                      My koment from 20.11

                      The fact is that I do not monitor your comments and answered a specific one, so take it if you want to.
            3. kuz363
              kuz363 22 November 2015 17: 17 New
              +2
              Indeed, Russia lost a year and a half to lay cable lines through the Kerch Strait. Yes, they imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad. So they had to be bought in advance or found workarounds through third countries. Or did the authorities hope for the favor of Ukraine? And mobile stations will not solve the problem.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 22 November 2015 17: 26 New
                0
                Quote: kuz363
                Yes, they imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad.

                I just can’t understand why this is not in Russia in order to arrange the release of these very Cables? request
                1. Dym71
                  Dym71 22 November 2015 20: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  I just can’t understand why this is not in Russia in order to arrange the release of these very Cables?


                  The most important thing is the need. We are a continental power, we mainly build VLEP - Air Power Transmission Lines and KLEP - Cable.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 22 November 2015 21: 14 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Dym71
                    We are a continental power

                    Thank you, dear, without you, I would never know this.
                    Traveling around the "power" is expensive, but I don’t have a globe and an Internet request
                    Quote: Dym71
                    The most important thing is the need

                    Oops! And, for example, for mines?
                    And if you need to throw a branch through any water area within the country?
                    Well, here's how it happened with Crimea ...
                    I can say with confidence 40 years ago that question would be solved max. yes
                    1. Dym71
                      Dym71 23 November 2015 00: 09 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Stroporez

                      Thank you, dear, without you, I would never know this.
                      Traveling around the "power" is expensive, but I don’t have a globe and an Internet request


                      Well, I’ll write in another way: in Russia, underground and ground highways are being built to transmit electric power. there is no energy, no sea routes, and the cable along the bottom of the Kerch Strait is an exception.

                      Quote: Stroporez

                      Oops! And, for example, for mines?
                      And if you need to throw a branch through any water area within the country?
                      Well, here's how it happened with Crimea ...
                      I can say with confidence 40 years ago that question would be solved max. yes


                      The example of mines is unsuccessful, the power consumption of Crimea and mines are not comparable.
                      According to the water area inside the country, it is easier and cheaper to get around during the construction of the highway.
                      Regarding the pace of construction 40 years ago, you are right of course, just in 1975, we started building the Crimean NPP.
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 23 November 2015 01: 23 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Dym71
                        Dym71

                        Mostly I tried in vain and did not quite clearly state my thought, but the essence is this:
                        15 years have passed since the accession of Crimea.
                        Really our "sages" did not see complications in relations with kakliya with all that it implies?
                        Even if you take into account your “no need”, then a year and a half ago there was a need and already 5-10 km of cable could be produced by “superpower”, and with mass production they could very easily export these products to needy people around the world, but it’s easier to drive managers copper is exported in discs, and let our compatriots sit without light, hoping for a "goodwill" junta.
                      2. Dym71
                        Dym71 23 November 2015 02: 10 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Really our "sages" did not see complications in relations with kakliya with all that it implies?


                        What comes to such idiocy is not easy to calculate. Undermining their power lines, they unbalanced the entire power supply system of the region, and this is not only the Crimea, but also the Kherson and Nikolaev regions - clearly fits into the saying "spite frostbitten ears of mom."
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        a year and a half ago, the need arose and already 5-10 km of cable "superpower" could produce

                        We do not have such equipment and no one would sell it to us, they would not build the line themselves for a long time, they will not do 5-10 km of weather, more than 220 km of cable will go to the energy bridge.
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        but there is no easier for managers to export copper in pigs for export

                        Believe me, this fact is not to my liking, however, for the five-year period, as before, the situation cannot be changed.
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        and let our compatriots sit without light, hoping for a "goodwill" junta.

                        They need to be patient for a month, the energy bridge will be launched at 1/3 of the design capacity, the generation in the Crimea will be debugged, everything will be fine. hi
                      3. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 23 November 2015 02: 26 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Dym71
                        5-10 km of weather will not be done, over 220 km of cable will go to the energy bridge.

                        hiabout 5-10 I figuratively said this.
                        Quote: Dym71
                        Believe me, this fact is not to my liking, however, for the five-year period, as before, the situation cannot be changed.

                        That's exactly what I’m talking about. And this is the "not fix" in all sectors.
                        After a terrible war, the country was restored in 10 years!
                        And then some kind of cable .... but the "power of Siberia", pah, disgusting ....
                        One sees the complete impotence of power ..., the complete inability to mobilize more or less ... That’s the essence.
                        And to you "+" and thank you for your optimism and for clarifying the situationsoldier
            4. perm23
              perm23 23 November 2015 06: 53 New
              +1
              We have everything . But effective managers think differently. Generally ashamed. Russia as a prostitute - asks everywhere we need investments. In all cities, deputies mayors to attract investment. Some kind of idyllism.
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          3. mervino2007
            mervino2007 22 November 2015 17: 56 New
            +2
            Quote: kuz363
            Yes, they imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad.

            Two options. Either the energy management is not in the breadth of the topic due to illiteracy, or the principle of “what you please” does not allow expectants to resolve the issue on time.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 22 November 2015 20: 49 New
              +2
              Quote: mervino2007
              Two options...

              And the third option: you personally are not in the subject of what is happening.

              I tried to hint above, check out wink
            2. perm23
              perm23 23 November 2015 06: 57 New
              -1
              Previously, everyone could and intelligence worked and mined everything and at the beginning of Soviet power they could buy through third parties. Now what is stopping. Only unwillingness and our business.
          4. Cat man null
            Cat man null 22 November 2015 20: 48 New
            +6
            Quote: kuz363
            Russia lost a year and a half to lay cable lines across the Kerch Strait. Yes, they imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad

            A year was spent on pre-design research and design.

            Quote: kuz363
            imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad

            To delirium .. how many times to say - it’s not in the cable there it is .. more precisely - not only and not so much in the cable.

            The electric energy received from the cable must be dragged to the final consumer. From the place where this electricity .. hitherto was not. And that means - to build substations, power lines and other, and other .. And the volume of construction there is not at all joking yes

            Above, by the way, they wrote about this a hundred times, in different variations, at least read something or something ..

            And you started - "cable, cable" ..
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 22 November 2015 22: 45 New
              +2
              Well, why are you p-balls in the poke. wink It is intolerant. After all, they are sure that in order to build something you just need to really want. Well, or shoot a dozen officials or businessmen. angry And if this does not help (this is the turn), then it means that once again the power must be changed, so that it is completely down. One thing is good - as long as angry libel is written on the Internet, other people are doing business and pulling energy bridges and are engaged in energy supply. Well, let the boltologists sit and whine. All the same, they are no use.
            2. perm23
              perm23 23 November 2015 07: 01 New
              0
              This is understandable about infrastructure and everything else. But in general, power transmission towers and substations are in the Crimea now. Yes, it’s clear that not everything is so simple, but we must do it faster and not allow this.
            3. ingener1966
              ingener1966 23 November 2015 10: 40 New
              +2
              Speaking of cable. I myself am a power engineer, already 30 years old. So, in order to buy a cable, you need to wait about 3 to 6 months until it is produced and not somewhere beyond the hill and in Russia, and this I’m talking about a cable of 6000 Volts, and in the Crimea a cable needs at least 110000 Volts . And now imagine that a thread longer than 3-5 km (depending on the cross-section) is not wound on any drum, this should be put on the couplings, and given its underwater condition, at least one shift will go on at least one working shift. Well, etc., etc. Therefore, it took so long, and in the USSR, one unit of the station was built in 1 years (the first block), subsequent from 2 to 8 months. The entire infrastructure is built with the first block, the subsequent blocks consist only of a boiler and a turbogenerator. hi
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              2. atalef
                atalef 23 November 2015 10: 46 New
                +2
                Quote: ingener1966
                Speaking of cable. I myself am a power engineer, already 30 years old. So, in order to buy a cable, you need to wait about 3 to 6 months until it is produced and not somewhere beyond the hill and in Russia, and this I’m talking about a cable of 6000 Volts, and in the Crimea a cable needs at least 110000 Volts . And now imagine that a thread longer than 3-5 km (depending on the cross-section) is not wound on any drum, this should be put on the couplings, and given its underwater condition, at least one shift will go on at least one working shift. Well, etc., etc. Therefore, it took so long, and in the USSR, one unit of the station was built in 1 years (the first block), subsequent from 2 to 8 months. The entire infrastructure is built with the first block, the subsequent blocks consist only of a boiler and a turbogenerator. hi

                Good morning
                With a cable, yes, no one holds such volumes in warehouses and it takes time for production, although Koreans do it quite quickly.
                I don’t think they will build substations, it’s easier to give the same voltage as in Ukrainian networks.
                A 220kV cable exists.
                With heavier couplings, it takes 2-3 days + at least a day to test each.
                Sincerely, Energy - Energetics hi
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 22 November 2015 21: 37 New
          -1
          But you can’t fit a couple of decommissioned, but not decommissioned nuclear submarines without ammunition into large cities, are these floating power plants?
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          2. atalef
            atalef 23 November 2015 10: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: Balu
            But you can’t fit a couple of decommissioned, but not decommissioned nuclear submarines without ammunition into large cities, are these floating power plants?


            This is not real from all sides.
            To begin with, Turkey will not miss the passage of ships with nuclear power plants
            Next -As for the output voltages, the construction of step-up substations, and most importantly, the control of modes and synchronization of electric generators.
        3. Protos
          Protos 22 November 2015 22: 37 New
          +1
          YOU A PROVOCATOR !!! am
        4. Flatter
          Flatter 23 November 2015 11: 30 New
          +1
          Reference: Cable laying under water in the main section is provided in separate trenches with a depth of up to 2.5 m relative to the bottom mark with a cable spacing of 10 m. On approaching the shore, the cables are laid in a common trench. The length of the cable passage will be 13 meters, the total length of the marine cable is 480 meters, and the total length of the underground cable is 220 m.
          Cable lines are part of the projected cable overhead lines (KVL) 220 kV Taman - Kafa I, II, II chain and KVL 220 kV Taman - Kamysh-Burun. According to preliminary data, which were reported by employees of the company Rubezh-Stroy, one branch of the power transmission line will go from Priozerny, the second will lie from Yurkino in the direction of Feodosia, and the third will affect Shchelkino. The deadline, which was announced to the employees of the company, is December 2015.
          Also, until 2020, it is planned to build two thermal power plants in the Crimea. It is planned that new power units at the Sevastopol and Simferopol TPPs with a total capacity of about 1 GW will be commissioned before March 3, 2018.
          1. Flatter
            Flatter 23 November 2015 11: 56 New
            +1
            4 lines, 230 km only the marine part - not one cable in each phase, given the electric power, laying pipes for protection. Probably constant voltage. Given the preparatory phase, the timing is very tight.
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            2. atalef
              atalef 23 November 2015 12: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: Flatter
              4 lines, 230 km only the marine part - not one cable in each phase, given the electric power, laying pipes for protection. Probably constant voltage. Given the preparatory phase, the timing is very tight.

              Why - each cable is a separate phase - 3 cables are a line. Perhaps they will use a system with an isolated neutral to reduce short-circuit currents in case of underwater breakdown - then 4 cables - feeder
              Direct current will not be used - unnecessary, unnecessary difficulties.
              1. Flatter
                Flatter 23 November 2015 14: 07 New
                +1
                Thanks for the correction.
      2. I am Russian
        I am Russian 22 November 2015 15: 52 New
        +2
        Mobile communications dead in Kerch

        Since lunchtime, the people of Kerch have experienced communication failures, and even its complete absence. But since Kerch is close to the Kuban, the towers located on the mainland of Russia allow you to "catch" the connection in open spaces.
        The townspeople had to remember what landlines were, and some had to get ordinary disk telephones from the bins to be able to communicate with relatives and emergency services.

        http://www.kerch.com.ru/articleview.aspx?id=53069
        1. I am Russian
          I am Russian 22 November 2015 15: 54 New
          +2
          The head of the Crimea declared November 23 a day off due to the emergency situation

          The head of the Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, announced November 23 as a day off in the republic due to the emergency regime, TASS reports.
    2. Hon
      Hon 22 November 2015 11: 38 New
      +4
      and let’s send our special services to catch hooligans through the gateways. terrorist attack is not a terrorist attack is the jurisdiction of Ukraine, and their problems. they received money for electricity, now they don’t. the question is, why in almost two years they did not provide Crimea with electricity? and if Ukraine immediately chopped off the wires?
    3. mitrich
      mitrich 22 November 2015 12: 46 New
      12
      It has long been concluded that there should be a department under the FSB, conducting active intelligence to find out ALL Maidanut and galloping Russophobes. I hope that my own agents are available for this. Minimum, a ban on entry into the RF FOREVER. And then how many frames were already there, as the tseeuropeytsy splashing poisonous saliva and hatred, then they ended up in Moscow and our other cities and towns. What is it like??? recourse
      And the most odious, like, calling to lay out the lists of our pilots in the SAR, openly rejoicing in the blown up plane, implicated in crimes in the Donbass, a bullet between the eyes.
      Massad's experience is to help. Here is someone to take an example from.
    4. varov14
      varov14 22 November 2015 12: 58 New
      +3
      We chew all the snot, it's time for the FSB to play in the Cheka, although there were teachers from the Tsarist secret police, and now teachers are liberal.
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 22 November 2015 13: 03 New
        -2
        Quote: varov14
        FSB time to play in the Cheka
        FSB time to rename the Cheka! By analogy (police-police) With all the consequences ...!
        1. ANTI.KORR.
          ANTI.KORR. 22 November 2015 13: 44 New
          12
          Quote: Baikonur
          FSB time to rename the Cheka!

          Eugene hi The Cheka and the FSB are completely different, in fact, organizations. The first served the people, and the second a small part of the people and just the analogy of the police-the police ...
          Now for the article ...
          It is interesting to know if there is a Crimea development plan at all? As, however, this question can be asked regarding the whole of Russia.
          Or the entire population of the Russian Federation to move to maskvabad and develop with it?
          One gets the impression that the Krymnyayash public relations show ends and normal weekdays come after the holiday, and the state, like a drunken drunk, can’t recover after one and a half year-old “holidays”.
          We all wonder why, by supplying electric energy to China, the state did not have the opportunity in 1,5 years to provide independent electric power to Russian citizens on its territory?
          Why didn’t the huge amount of money sent to Crimea reflect positively on Crimeans?
          The answer seems simple, our state is not capable of planning, and the entire mess existing on the mainland automatically switched to the peninsula.
          I don’t even want to discuss the behavior of the Kaklov’s authorities, but I want to ask what our state has done, apart from raising prices, for the energy independence of Crimea from Ukraine.
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 22 November 2015 17: 56 New
            0
            Quote: ANTI.KORR.
            The Cheka and the FSB are completely different, in fact, organizations. The first served the people, and the second a small part
            Specially "classified" bully meaningfulness! The current impossibility, utopia (the first served the people, and the second a small part of the people) Specifically, the word "Anal.orgiya Militia-police" did not take in quotation marks. And I wanted to hint at the letter "H" in the abbreviation VChK- extremely important!
            It’s bad that nobody will read these comments! (For a limitation period! I am writing just for myself)
          2. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 22 November 2015 21: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: ANTI.KORR.
            I don’t even want to discuss the behavior of the Kaklov’s authorities, but I want to ask what our state has done, apart from raising prices, for the energy independence of Crimea from Ukraine.

            Albert, what did this government do for the remaining regions of Russia? I had the opinion that the concept of "creation" is completely absent in our Ladies government at all. And about the Crimea, in our government they don’t understand at all what the Crimeans do not like? They live already in Russia, what else is needed. belay
    5. perm23
      perm23 23 November 2015 06: 44 New
      0
      It is high time . And why no one has yet done. And business to squeeze this bastard and declare a terrorist. How much can you forgive them all.
  2. Kostyar
    Kostyar 22 November 2015 11: 35 New
    11
    Hold on, brothers! And not such strollers exported !!!
    And this attack only confirms that you made the right choice, and what would happen now, if you had acted differently !!! And this, only a manifestation of anger and powerlessness trembling, before the death of the West !!! We are with you !!!
  • sichevik
    sichevik 22 November 2015 08: 37 New
    49
    the fact of the matter is that it makes no sense. Just shit. And shit, not thinking about the consequences. It’s like with the food blockade of Crimea. There is only one principle - the worse, the better ... But who is worse and who is better? The old Khokhlyatsky trick - not for the sake of snacks. As my deeply respected Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov says: “Morons, bl .... d.” But I personally said, I say and I will say that insanity and not on the outskirts are not something that is getting stronger, it rolls over with terrible force.
    1. Stinger
      Stinger 22 November 2015 08: 50 New
      23
      Nooo. There's a meaning. Ancient dill, as he argues. Cut down the light and water. In Crimea, they will immediately see that Putin is not that ... bad, immediately the residents will request back. In Europe. Together with the whole herd.
      1. I am Russian
        I am Russian 22 November 2015 08: 56 New
        -21
        Quote: Stinger
        Nooo. There's a meaning. Ancient dill, as he argues. Cut down the light and water. In Crimea, they will immediately see that Putin is not that ... bad, immediately the residents will request back. In Europe. Together with the whole herd.


        Oh .. I don’t remember who said that, Lavrov isn’t? Who drove this nonsense into your head?
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 22 November 2015 09: 11 New
          21
          Quote: I-Russian
          Who drove this nonsense into your head?

          And what nonsense is that? Maybe in blocking the North Crimean Canal? Undermining power transmission towers? In superfood blockade? Isn't that all? You tore me a pattern. recourse
      2. NIKNN
        NIKNN 22 November 2015 09: 35 New
        +5
        Nooo. There's a meaning. Ancient dill, as he argues. Cut down the light and water. In Crimea, they will immediately see that Putin is not that ... bad, immediately the residents will request back. In Europe. Together with the whole herd.


        Simpler meaning. They Poroshenko earn money from amers. Fools, they think and they will fall request
      3. dr.Bo
        dr.Bo 22 November 2015 09: 58 New
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        Quote: Stinger
        Nooo. There's a meaning. Ancient dill, as he argues. Cut down the light and water. In Crimea, they will immediately see that Putin is not that ... bad, immediately the residents will request back. In Europe. Together with the whole herd.

        Unfortunately, the country "404" was captured by neo-fascists! They intimidated the bulk of the inhabitants and are doing outrage! Trite, but true!
        Yanuc cattle ...
        1. Azitral
          Azitral 22 November 2015 10: 50 New
          +7
          Alas. For the vast majority, the best way to adapt to the fascist regime is to become a fascist. And then, since a person always considers himself good, he firmly convinces himself that fascism is good. Wash ourselves with blood, but there’s nowhere to go.
    2. st25310
      st25310 22 November 2015 09: 04 New
      +5
      They are real stupid people. Furious for the plane, thousands and thousands of obtsefakers bombed the ground in Syria. For Odessa, Ilovaisk, Izvarino and Debaltseve arranged.
      And for this terrorist attack on the electricity grid will pay your own lives. How can you be so stupid so as not to know for so many years who Kaa is.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 22 November 2015 09: 07 New
        43
        Quote: st25310
        How can you be so stupid so as not to know for so many years who Kaa is.

        It should be recalled:
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      3. Aleksander
        Aleksander 22 November 2015 10: 13 New
        12
        Must be official and tough statement of the leadership of Russia to these acts TERRORISM indicating a possible harsh response. Forget, finally, about the "respected partners", ugh on them .....
        1. I am Russian
          I am Russian 22 November 2015 10: 16 New
          -4
          A note of protest?
          1. Oprychnik
            Oprychnik 22 November 2015 10: 25 New
            23
            The answer is already there. According to Ukraine Correspondent:
            Russia has stopped shipping anthracite coal to Ukraine due to the limited supply of electricity to Crimea, writes Left Bank.
            This was stated by the leader of the Crimean Tatars Mustafa Dzhemilev at a rally near the Presidential Administration after a meeting with President Petro Poroshenko.
            Ukraine de-energized Crimea on the night of Sunday, November 22, as a result of undermining the electrical support.
            “I’ll tell you frankly - we talked with the President about this - that the situation is very difficult. In connection with the power outage, Russia has now stopped supplying anthracite, which means that seven power plants in Ukraine will be paralyzed,” he said.
            1. igordok
              igordok 22 November 2015 11: 19 New
              +5
              From a comment on LJ open_krym. Maybe the truth, or maybe not.?

              open_krym

              22 November 2015, 06: 08: 42 UTC

              We already have light, turned off for two hours late at night, and, most likely, not because of the Khokhlyat sabotage, but because of the strongest, almost hurricane wind all over the Crimea.
              1. GRAY
                GRAY 22 November 2015 11: 53 New
                +4
                Quote: igordok
                From a comment on LJ open_krym. Maybe the truth, or maybe not.?

                Truth. Everywhere was different.
                This is from Sevastopol:
                Only electricity turned on
                November 22, 11: 30
                Yesterday, at about 12 am, Ukrainians' neighbors cut off the whole Crimea from electricity. I know for sure that in Yalta and Sevastopol there was no electricity all night and only half an hour ago it was turned on. These are our things.

                http://strajj.livejournal.com/3333702.html
                1. GRAY
                  GRAY 22 November 2015 12: 23 New
                  +3
                  It is true.

                  All the same, there is still not enough capacity.

                  SCHEDULE
                  guaranteed filing
                  electricity to consumers in Sevastopol
                  on 22.11.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX
                  Time District
                  09:00 - 12:00 Gagarinsky district
                  12:00 - 15:00 Leninsky district
                  15:00 - 18:00 Balaklava district, Nakhimovsky district
                  18:00 - 21:00 Gagarinsky district
                  21:00 - 00:00 Leninsky district

                  SCHEDULE
                  guaranteed filing
                  electricity to consumers in Sevastopol
                  on 23.11.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX
                  Time District
                  00:00 - 03:00 Balaklava district, Nakhimovsky district
                  03:00 - 06:00 Gagarinsky district
                  06:00 - 09:00 Leninsky district
                  09:00 - 12:00 Balaklava district, Nakhimovsky district
                  12:00 - 15:00 Gagarinsky district
                  15:00 - 18:00 Leninsky district
                  18:00 - 21:00 Balaklava district, Nakhimovsky district
                  21:00 - 00:00 Gagarinsky district
            2. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 22 November 2015 21: 27 New
              0
              Also a trip, only a little delayed. smile
            3. perm23
              perm23 23 November 2015 07: 08 New
              +1
              I haven’t read about it, but if it’s true, then this is how we should answer them.
        2. Hon
          Hon 22 November 2015 11: 45 New
          +4
          Quote: Aleksander
          There should be an official and tough statement by the Russian leadership on these acts of TERRORISM indicating possible harsh retaliatory measures. Forget, finally, about the "respected partners", ugh on them .....

          and here they are afraid of these harsh statements ... Kadyrov also said a lot of things harshly, and Moseychuk shot his portraits, and wanted to spit on these statements.
          it is not necessary to declare but act, they cut off the power transmission line, stretch their own, cut off the water, make an oatomic water supply, block products, increase imports from Russia. and start in the ass yourself they stick these wires
        3. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 22 November 2015 21: 26 New
          0
          There should be a reciprocal shutdown in the same volume.
    3. uhu189
      uhu189 22 November 2015 10: 17 New
      +7
      The meaning here is just straightforward and quite understandable - remember recently the proposal to settle Ukraine’s debt to Russia and the boorish answer to it by Yatsenyuk? So with this allegedly "terrorist attack" our "partners" are pushing our leadership to make decisions in line with the requirements of Ukraine. If you recall, last year, during the negotiations on the price of gas and payment of debts, it was the same. Remember what happened afterwards?
      In all of this, I don’t understand one thing: was it really impossible to route cables through the Kerch Strait for a year and a half in order to solve this problem even from the eastern part of Crimea? Here either frank sabotage, or ... I do not want to call this word.
      1. mitrich
        mitrich 22 November 2015 13: 00 New
        +4
        uhu189, get ahead! hi
        I also want to ask what ... do I have to wait for the bridge and all the nishtyaks associated with it? Why was it already impossible to throw one-two-four -... threads of cables for the current supply of Crimea along the bottom. Look, the pipes are unwinding along the bottom, just howling!
        And in u ... ukrov now! What, our authorities do not know these tricks and their methods of interaction? Truly, our thieves above, only knows how to fill moshna. And besides the pipe on which they sat tightly, they sucked like ghouls, the rest was on their side. request
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 22 November 2015 13: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: mitrich
          Why was it already impossible to throw one-two-four -... threads of cables for the current supply of Crimea along the bottom.

          And if you think about it? 2 million people, a bunch of cities and industrial facilities to provide electricity, do you think it is so simple? It’s not enough to extend the cable through the strait, then we still have to do the “wiring” on the peninsula with the creation of the appropriate infrastructure, and this is not so easy, but everyone can demand something from the “sofa” - everyone can ...
          As our ancient wisdom says: tryndet - not tossing bags ...
          1. bannik
            bannik 22 November 2015 15: 17 New
            +3
            It took 48 days to connect Leningrad to the Volkhov hydroelectric power station under bombs and shelling (this is both a power transmission line and an underwater one - 23 km. Cable). Yes, the power is not what Crimea needs, but the yard is not 1942.
            1. atalef
              atalef 22 November 2015 15: 38 New
              +2
              Quote: bannik
              It took 48 days to connect Leningrad to the Volkhov hydroelectric power station under bombs and shelling (this is both a power transmission line and an underwater one - 23 km. Cable). Yes, the power is not what Crimea needs, but the yard is not 1942.

              it’s not just not that, it’s 15 times less. Yes, and neither are the stresses. and \ TB at that time and those conditions are different.
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              1. bannik
                bannik 22 November 2015 16: 18 New
                +2
                It’s just that it’s not profitable for oligarchs to “own” money, but not to the budget on budgetary ones;
                1. perm23
                  perm23 23 November 2015 07: 15 New
                  0
                  Here I agree. nobody wants to work and not earn, not snatch. business is not important people and their troubles, it is important for them to bite a sweet piece of fatty oneself.
          2. kuz363
            kuz363 22 November 2015 17: 33 New
            -1
            Nonsense. The electrical wiring in the Crimea remains existing. You just need to bring the overhead line to the point of input of the overhead line from Ukraine. That's all. Perhaps the cross-section of the OHL wires from Kerch to the entry point may not allow this to be done. Then you have to use the backup lines, which must exist according to the EMP. Or forward additional wires.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 22 November 2015 18: 01 New
              +2
              Do not forget. that Crimea has been a part of the country for 23 years, which for all this time has not bothered to repair at least once the main tourist and strategic objects of the peninsula! So it can be assumed that there the backup lines have long been sawn into color-met, and the main wiring is in the wildest state ...
              So there may be problems tuyeva khucha after 23 years in Ukraine ...
          3. uhu189
            uhu189 22 November 2015 17: 34 New
            +1
            And please tell me, have you heard anything about mobile substations? In a year and a half, it is quite possible to organize a temporary substation and switch the power from the feeders from Ukraine to it, and re-supply the power from the Kuban to the main equipment. Yes, of course there are difficulties, and not small ones. And it takes money. And stresses. But in a year and a half, this could well have been done, given that Russia is not Sudan and there are resources for this. But no, why. It’s easier for Ukrainians to make a gas discount ...
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 22 November 2015 18: 15 New
              0
              Quote: uhu189
              And please tell me, have you heard anything about mobile substations?

              Firstly, in Crimea they are already being used - it was reported right after the first Great Ukrainian attempts to disconnect Koryma from electricity, this is one, two - I, unfortunately, do not know how many of them we have, how many of them can be transferred to Crimea (and how many have already been transferred there) and what is their total power and operating cost, so it’s hard to say something definite.
              And then - a year and a half - this is the question of how long / short is it? And what funds are needed to fully provide Crimea with sparkle during this time? Given that we have over the past year and a half a cloud of clouds formed ...
              1. uhu189
                uhu189 22 November 2015 18: 29 New
                +1
                It is a very long time to solve a problem on a national scale, I think you yourself understand this very well. Unacceptably large. Moreover, there are reserve capacities in the power system, there are specialists and resources to solve this problem. But for some reason they do not solve it, or rather, its solution was lowered to the regional level, and there they do not have such resources as the state can allocate. One gets the impression that they do not want to invest in the infrastructure of Crimea. The question is why?
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 22 November 2015 18: 41 New
                  0
                  Quote: uhu189
                  One gets the impression that they do not want to invest in the infrastructure of Crimea. The question is why?

                  To answer this question, you must first answer another - do not want or can not and why?
        2. perm23
          perm23 23 November 2015 07: 10 New
          -1
          Previously, the government had to think. And take not only the Crimea and Kharkov. And then do not stop the advance of the BCH, but to finish off the enemy. Lack is always dangerous.
      2. WINovikov
        WINovikov 22 November 2015 13: 08 New
        +2
        And we do not have the required cable. One must buy in China. And then from China along the Great Silk Road, donkeys and camels will be delivered until ... And there the money runs out.
        1. Kite
          Kite 22 November 2015 14: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: WINovikov
          And we do not have the required cable.

          There is. But, the country is big and cable reels are sooooo big to drive on it for a long time. And also it is necessary to make.
          1. kuz363
            kuz363 22 November 2015 17: 37 New
            +1
            No, there was a link that such a high-voltage cable is not produced in Russia. And abroad do not sell because of sanctions. so that remains a friend of China or through a third country illegally
            1. uhu189
              uhu189 22 November 2015 18: 32 New
              0
              Finns definitely make a cable on 220kV, a cable on 110kV is done at us, in Kolchugino. Is it done there 220kV - I can not say, like not.
            2. Kite
              Kite 22 November 2015 18: 44 New
              0
              the search engine does not understand the questions? wink Try the combinations: high-voltage, power, cross-linked polyethylene. If it does not help, then look at the catalog of Unkomtekh or Rybinsk cable, or sevcable.
        2. atalef
          atalef 22 November 2015 15: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: WINovikov
          we don’t have the right cable. Must buy in China


          Well, why, Finns and Koreans let out.
          By the way, do not fuck up but what voltage?
          220 kV cable costs about 1 million bucks a kilometer.
          If in the marine version, then clearly more, and the problem in general is not only to bring it, but also to make underwater couplings (for connecting parts), each such clutch is made in almost sterile conditions.
          We put a special container and the coupling itself for 2-3 days, and this is for each phase because the cable - each phase is a separate cable.
          1. uhu189
            uhu189 22 November 2015 17: 40 New
            0
            If you do it, then with the same stress that comes from Ukraine, so that the RP and PS are not rebuilt. I can be mistaken of course, but there seems to be a line of 330kV.
            1. atalef
              atalef 23 November 2015 07: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: uhu189
              If you do it, then with the same stress that comes from Ukraine, so that the RP and PS are not rebuilt. I can be mistaken of course, but there seems to be a line of 330kV.

              Of course, it is better to use cables for the base voltage of the supply networks, but a 330 kV cable (I don’t know if this is the same) costs much more.
              On the other hand, the construction of a step-down substation 330 \ 220kV is an even bigger problem.
              In general, perhaps it was necessary to finish building 2 new airplanes - both in the Crimea and in the Kuban. (for cable voltage and additional power)
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          1. mitrich
            mitrich 22 November 2015 16: 25 New
            -2
            Well yes, that's all expensive. So we are for email. We do not pay energy to dill, according to our internal prices, but much higher, we sponsor the junta. This money would go partly for laying submarine cables. And they will build a bridge, it will remain as a reserve, without this it is impossible.
            1. Kite
              Kite 22 November 2015 17: 35 New
              +2
              How could I explain this to you? Here, let’s say you have money, but you still have to live in a rented apartment because your house has not yet been completed and not accepted for use.
      3. Kite
        Kite 22 November 2015 13: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: uhu189
        was it really impossible to route cables through the Kerch Strait for a year and a half

        - and for presentation, take an interest in what cables are needed (cross-section, working voltage, for which installation method, .....), how much, where to lay, how to deliver, how to connect pieces of construction (measured) lengths, how long does one team it is necessary for the installation of one coupler, how many teams are needed with a full set of equipment and equipment, .................., how many substations need to be mounted and where, ......
        This is not a commercial extension cord for 500 rubles to unwind (and then unwind).
        But, they promised to install and put into operation before the end of the year.
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        2. mitrich
          mitrich 22 November 2015 14: 15 New
          -1
          It is clear that this is not a coffee on the sofa by the laptop to drink. laughing
          But if you do nothing then nothing will happen. Yes, it’s all expensive, but it turns out more expensive, especially in political and image terms, when we are held insane for eggs in Crimea by water, electricity, food.
          Not to mention the country (SWIFT, CBR, lack of domestic payment systems, ...).
        3. kuz363
          kuz363 22 November 2015 17: 40 New
          0
          These equipment brigades had to be driven from all over Russia, because it was a matter of prestige. And now what, again, Crimea in blockade for the third time?
          1. Kite
            Kite 22 November 2015 22: 39 New
            +3
            Yeah, and "a crystal bridge of an engineering design from your porch to my palace" in one night, since the question of prestige is laughing Wherever a scarab be found and warmed, in order to receive a magic ring. Otherwise, you’ll have to carry a shirt and a “pocket jacket” to the market.
        4. uhu189
          uhu189 22 November 2015 21: 12 New
          0
          )) You think I don’t know what I'm talking about? Cable with XLPE insulation of marine design, voltage 110kV (at least for power supply to Kerch, 110 / 10 substations in the Kerch area, they do not need to be mounted). The cross-section must be checked by calculation with respect to short-circuit currents, but I think in no way less than 400mm2, its length on the drum is, conditionally speaking, meters 500-600. With a strait length of 5,5 km, a maximum of 14 couplings per phase and, respectively, in the underwater section per thread 42 pieces, on 2 threads, respectively 84 pcs. One drum is quietly transported by truck. What other problems need to be invented to justify inaction? Such cables, including underwater, were laid a lot. Yes, of course, there are difficulties with hydrology, with connection, but this is all solved, especially for such a time
          1. Kite
            Kite 22 November 2015 22: 19 New
            0
            I think you were very wrong in your assessment. The first error is 400 mm2 for 110 kV, this is not enough for one factory.
            1. uhu189
              uhu189 23 November 2015 12: 01 New
              0
              And how much do you think one plant consumes? 100MBA? Also, read the whole story - I wrote at least 400mm2
    4. anfil
      anfil 22 November 2015 14: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: sichevik
      ... But who is worse and who is better? The old Khokhlyatsky trick - not for the sake of snacks. ...


      Now someone is flying from Kuev to Tbilisi, going around Russia and thinking: - "And what for we dug up such a big sea !?"

  • 79807420129
    79807420129 22 November 2015 08: 39 New
    31
    Dolboklui from the territory of 404 decided to fall in love with the Crimea, making a food blockade for Crimeans, cutting off water supply, undermining energy supplies, the Donbass from the manifestation of such love, the whole one was destroyed and the Ukrainian people would like to use it in Crimea, only the Russian army in Crimea stands for misfortune and hohlopitek teeth can fly out.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 22 November 2015 09: 58 New
      30
      Quote: 79807420129
      for such love among hohlopiteks, teeth can fly out.

      Not only teeth but also a certain bug tie can eat.
      1. mitrich
        mitrich 22 November 2015 13: 05 New
        +1
        The tie is a little short, it doesn’t reach the shingle, at the same time it would work as a brush for them. And the coloring is not patriotic, where the right sect is looking! laughing
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 22 November 2015 08: 41 New
    12
    And what is the meaning of terrorist attacks? Usually try to scare. And these are just shit ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 22 November 2015 08: 48 New
      +8
      Cut off the Ukrainians everything before the return of debts. And let Poroshenko deal with his figures.
      1. Hey
        Hey 22 November 2015 09: 56 New
        12
        You forgot about the Russian oligarchs who have business in Ukraine, about Sberbank whose loans were issued in Ukraine, about Gazprom, which, by its stupidity, undertook to deliver its gas to the consumer’s threshold and immediately get to the headstock.
        therefore don't expect for repayment of debts by the Ukrainian junta.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 22 November 2015 09: 58 New
        +1
        I didn’t see an article on the censor about stopping the shipment of coal for Ukraine, xs true or not.
    2. I am Russian
      I am Russian 22 November 2015 08: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Observer 33
      And what is the meaning of terrorist attacks? Usually try to scare. And these are just shit ...


      Wait, after a while it will become clear yes
      1. fyvaprold
        fyvaprold 22 November 2015 09: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: I-Russian
        Wait, after a while it will become clear

        You probably think that the lack of electricity will not allow Crimeans to look at the zombies ”Surkov propaganda ©"and they are all skipping rush into the nanku ?! Mussia Dzhamilev, log in. laughing laughing laughing
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 22 November 2015 09: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: I-Russian
        Wait, after a while it will become clear yes

        What, the next act will freeze your ears to evil Putin? laughing
        In a word, degradation.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 22 November 2015 10: 32 New
          25
          Quote: GSH-18
          What, the next act will freeze your ears to evil Putin? In a word, degradation.

          Yeah, pulled up these unicellular with their quirks.
        2. WINovikov
          WINovikov 22 November 2015 13: 13 New
          -1
          What are you? Yes, Garant Porosenko will not allow his ears to freeze. Give discounts, debt forgive, but not allow. Suddenly Europe will be offended.
  • Oleg16661
    Oleg16661 22 November 2015 08: 53 New
    +8
    And the point is to persuade Russia to decide on debt restructuring under Ukrainian conditions. The IMF sent them off with guarantees, the US and the EU are silent, and the time for making a decision is approaching. So they put pressure on the "sore spot". Blackmail in its purest form.
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 22 November 2015 10: 55 New
      +4
      There is nothing more destructive for a blackmailer than a failed blackmail.
  • Jan Krumins
    Jan Krumins 22 November 2015 08: 54 New
    +4
    Simple - hohfoot terrorism ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 22 November 2015 09: 31 New
      10
      Quote: Jan Krumins
      Simple - hohfoot terrorism ...

      Well you! what a terrorism! With terrorism, a criminal investigation is launched, but here no gu-gu. "Yes, they blew it up, we fix it, and they put the Right sector around the power lines for protection ... (or so that they would not be repaired quickly?) But no investigation! Everything is clear here - the patriots blew up, so there’s nothing to investigate, and in general" we (the state) have nothing to do with it "
      1. igordok
        igordok 22 November 2015 10: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: Egoza
        Well you! what a terrorism! With terrorism, a criminal investigation is launched, but here no gu-gu.

        Window dressing. Instead of pressing the “button” on the switchgear (substation), the intermediate supports of the power transmission line were blown up. No responsibility for actions, but screaming is immeasurable.
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 22 November 2015 11: 08 New
        +7
        Quote: Egoza
        and in general "we (the state) have nothing to do with it"

        The state (the State!) Bears direct responsibility for what is happening on its territory. And if the "state" is not able to restrain the unbridled "super patriots", then what kind of state does Poroshenko have?
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  • Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 22 November 2015 08: 57 New
    +4
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Degenerates!

    And what else from Svidomo pig farmers then wait? Wretched geeks have one name for them.
    1. Junior, I
      Junior, I 22 November 2015 09: 14 New
      +3
      Unicellular!
  • SAXA.SHURA
    SAXA.SHURA 22 November 2015 09: 00 New
    +8
    Ukrainians should be disconnected from everything, once and for all.
  • Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 09: 02 New
    +6
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Degenerates !.

    Curious, what's the point? The Crimeans, according to their plan, should immediately appear, apologize that they did not voluntarily eat glass, and ask that they return to "ETU" Ukraine?

    Another interesting question is that they (svidomye) believe that electricity goes to Crimea for free. Well, they give her Crimeans, as before, water. Therefore, the logic in their actions is completely absent. In order to at least somehow replenish your budget, you need to trade and not violate trade relations. As a result, grandmother’s ears frostbitten7 He doesn’t come up with another.
  • Good me
    Good me 22 November 2015 09: 13 New
    10
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Curious, what's the point?


    Excerpt from the material, and in full: http://www.politonline.ru/comments/22884213.html

    "Yes, we don’t have light. We’ll survive," Crimeans already write in social networks. Many residents of the peninsula quite adequately (for the most part) comment on the joyful statements that appeared “just as it should” from the Ukrainians with messages from the series “look at them after default”.

    Recall that on Friday the Kherson police said that the "unknown" blew up the power transmission towers that led to the Crimea - after which the Ukrainians "had to disconnect two of the four power lines." True, the same Kiva vowed that "repair work on the grounding of the damaged high-voltage line is completed."
    "When the Crimea is turned off, there will be an excess of electricity generated by the Zaporizhzhya NPP. Nuclear units are not intended for maneuvering during operation, that is, it will be necessary to unload the Zaporizhzhya NPP. This will lead not only to deenergizing the ARC, but also to some consumers of the Kherson, Zaporizhzhya, Dnipropetrovsk and Donetsk regions" - The press already wrote.

    "The shortage can be covered only by increasing or generating electricity by thermal stations. In the absence of coal in full at the warehouses of the stations for the autumn-winter period, its additional burning will only aggravate the situation in the power system. This will lead to the use by the dispatcher of the NEC "Ukrenergo" of emergency shutdown schedules for consumers already within Ukraine, "the journalists added


    Add:

    Russia has stopped shipping anthracite coal to Ukraine due to the limited supply of electricity to the Crimea.

    This was announced by the leader of the Crimean Tatar people Mustafa Dzhemilev said at a rally near the Presidential Administration after a meeting with President Petro Poroshenko.

    “I’ll tell you frankly - we talked with the President about this - that the situation is very difficult. In connection with the power outage, Russia has now stopped supplying anthracite, which means that seven power plants in Ukraine will be paralyzed,” he said.

    Dzhemilev’s performance was broadcast by Radio Liberty.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 22 November 2015 09: 28 New
      11
      Quote: Good I
      Add:


      I’ll single out one from the comment stream ..

      899 22/11/15 07:22 Ukraine,

      I’ve been thinking about joining the PS for a long time; True, the guys have fists, but with brains - not really. And, in general, - nonsense. Crimea. Gentlemen, yes, he was not ours either. In addition to several flags in the administrative buildings. Yes, let them do what they want there - all the empires that owned Crimea had only a "pain in the neck", but they drove through. It is necessary to proceed from a dry economic “conformity”: profitable - we sell, and vice versa. But, how is it, for example, to leave a hospital without light? Who will count the corpses in what light? Maybe I'm a melancholic? And, in general, I think that our “hu” is that we copy hatred and stupidity from our, like, brothers. Already in the past. Although, the matter is not even in them - with the Waltzmanns and Yatsiks an abscess has already matured. Well, this, not even a war, is very beneficial to someone, but h ... nya

      http://glavcom.ua/news/342180.html

      basta karapuziki run out of dancing
      1. Good me
        Good me 22 November 2015 09: 43 New
        +8
        Quote: vorobey
        I’ve been thinking about joining PS for a long time; True, the guys have fists, but with brains - not really. And, in general, - nonsense. Crimea. Gentlemen, yes, he was not ours either.


        Who will take him with such invisible seditious thoughts about the Crimea? Ragul in general, lost his life-style landmarks, and pokes like a blind kitten ...
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 22 November 2015 10: 28 New
          +4
          Quote: Good I
          Who will take him with such invisible seditious thoughts about the Crimea?

          And what? Vaughn Turchinov proposes to lease Crimea to the USA for 50 years! belay Will the USA only rent this “piece”? wassat
      2. Kars
        Kars 22 November 2015 10: 15 New
        +9
        Yesterday, the National Guard drove right-wingers near the power lines, as they say, beaten with nags and butts.
        And I wrote on Friday that I need to do something
        1. Good me
          Good me 22 November 2015 10: 33 New
          +6
          Quote: Kars
          Yesterday, the National Guard drove right-wingers near the power lines, as they say, beaten with nags and butts.
          And I wrote on Friday that I need to do something


          Ehhh, Kars, would you write this, from 21 November to 21 February 2013 ...

          But they didn’t write. Everyone wanted to go to Europe. How do you like the "European choice"?

          Is it good Arranges ?
          1. Kars
            Kars 22 November 2015 10: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Good I
            Uhh, Kars, would you write this, from 21 November to 21 February 2013 ..

            What is this?
            Quote: Good I
            But they didn’t write. Everyone wanted to go to Europe. How do you like the "European choice"?

            Is it good Arranges ?

            You are clearly confusing me with someone. I have always been for sitting in two chairs.
            and it would have been even more charming if you hadn’t deceived Medved and Putin’s Putin and give the normal price for gas after the Kharkov agreements)) and there would be no such problems - especially since the price of gas Yatsenyuki dropped)) probably for understanding.
            1. Good me
              Good me 22 November 2015 11: 06 New
              +5
              Quote: Kars
              You are clearly confusing me with someone. I have always been for sitting in two chairs.
              and it would have been even more charming if you hadn’t deceived Medved and Putin’s Putin and give the normal price for gas after the Kharkov agreements)) and there would be no such problems - especially since the price of gas Yatsenyuki dropped)) probably for understanding.


              Apparently you weren’t taught in childhood that “sitting on two chairs” is a rather meaningless and thankless task, because of the precarious situation?

              Even if you proceed from your proverb that: “a submissive calf sucks two moms”, then it’s completely not clear what you were going to do in this case with the “rebellious”? Those who actually rode on the Maidan, kills in the Donbass, undermines power lines?

              The choice between us and the USA did not mean "this and that" ... You chose to be the bedding of the USA.

              Do you like it, such a "Europe"?

              And with gas, Russia is to blame for you ... What are we at least guilty of?

              Although Tymoshenko, who has signed, to ensure the activity of her gray schemes for gas theft from Ukraine, is a rather servile contract for you, YOUR NATIONAL “product”, ACKNOWLEDGE?
              1. Kars
                Kars 22 November 2015 12: 12 New
                +1
                Quote: Good I
                Even if you proceed from your proverb that: “a humble calf sucks two moms,” it’s completely not clear what you were going to do in this case with the “rebellious”

                in 2012 they were not there. just one batch .. Freedom .. and the vast majority of regionals,

                Quote: Good I
                Even though Tymoshenko has signed

                And against which, after signing, the criminal cases were stopped on the territory of the Russian Federation, and which was planted under Yanukovych. At the same time, Yanukovych bought gas at almost 500 minus an incomprehensible discount at 100. And the first contract went to Xenum for Yatsenyuk
                Quote: Good I
                Apparently you weren’t taught in childhood that “sitting on two chairs” is a rather meaningless and thankless task, because of the precarious situation?

                if skillfully it is possible.
                1. Good me
                  Good me 22 November 2015 12: 19 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Kars
                  in 2012 they were not there. just one batch .. Freedom .. and the vast majority of regionals,


                  And then I, oh:
                  Quote: Good I
                  Ehhh, Kars, would you write this, from 21 November to 21 February 2013 ...



                  Quote: Kars
                  if skillfully it is possible.


                  And where, she, is a "demonstration of skill"? After all, FAILURE followed in everything ...
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 22 November 2015 13: 40 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Good I
                    And then I, oh:

                    You should at least write the dates correctly. November-February 2013))))
                    and I wrote that I did not support the Maidan even then. and then I wrote that Putin leaked Yanukovych to join the Crimea. Since he helped Yanyk, at least give guarantees that they would not bomb like Gaddafi, the Maidan would be dispersed in a couple of hours, as it was on Grushevskogo 20 February 20 14 (14) years
                    Quote: Good I
                    And where, she, is a "demonstration of skill"? After all, FAILURE followed in everything

                    They lived pretty well before the Maidan, while paying extortionate gas prices. Of course, France wasn’t bad, but living was not bad. Putin would have thrown off the gas price after the Kharkiv agreements, and letting the yanyk save half of the difference that would have left a good push for the economy.
                    1. Good me
                      Good me 22 November 2015 13: 54 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Kars
                      You should at least write the dates correctly. November-February 2013))))


                      Ahh ... Well, yes, then the slip came out. Of course, November 2013-February 14go ...

                      But this is neither critical nor fundamental. Every reasonable person will understand that these are the dates of the beginning of the Maidan and the flight of Yanukovych.
                    2. perm23
                      perm23 23 November 2015 07: 40 New
                      +1
                      Yes, no matter how much they give gas discounts, what's the difference. What had to be fed all the time from the handle, so that Ukraine as a girl would not go to another. The Americans gave money and all. And not Yanukovych ruined the country, but all taken together. And you in Ukraine, who thought that YOU feed Russia and our common stupidity, consider that everything is better and more beautiful behind the hill. For this reason the UNION collapsed .
                2. g1v2
                  g1v2 22 November 2015 13: 50 New
                  +4
                  After the Maidan of 2004, Tymoshenko went to negotiate with us, and Yanyk with amers. Therefore, in the next election, mattresses recognized him immediately. Yanukovych gave us and the United States, but more to them. Under him, the Ukrainianization of Russian cities only intensified. Fans of the Kharkov metallurgist 10 years ago were pro-Russian, and now it is the main asset of the Maydauns. The right sector and freedom created the SBU precisely under Yanukovych. It was the party of regions that crushed any attempts to create pro-Russian movements. European integration began to be pushed precisely at a yanyk. The mattresses were simply afraid that Putin had turned over Yanyka or bought it - a loan of 15 billion convinced them of this. So they decided not to wait for Yanyk to buy another presidential term for this money and toppled him. This is absolutely not a pity, because it is a twist and regionals. negative And Tymoshenko, by the way, at the last election and the Russian Federation sponsored. wink There, in recent years, everything is sold and everything is bought, and for whom the next political staff can now be found out only by knowing who pays him now. Here our company in Kiev is now opening a factory. 30 PEOPLE FROM KUYEV HAVE LEARNED TO US IN SUMMER. I ask the bosses - they say, what about Natsik and the struggle with Russia? And they tell me that everything has already been paid there, and the most important patriots, Nenko and fighters with Russia, will oversee our business. lol
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 22 November 2015 14: 33 New
                    +1
                    Quote: g1v2
                    Yanukovych gave us and the United States, but more to them

                    Well, it was precisely the Americans who Yanukovych extended the lease of Sevastopol, and lived for three years without IMF loans, adopted Russian as a regional language. And as for the metolurg phantoms, I personally consider any ultras to be mentally retarded.
                    Well, I would like to know more about Ukrainization under Yanukovych)) he even took the title of hero from Bandera, who Yush gave him.
                    Quote: g1v2
                    European integration began to be pushed precisely at a yanyk.

                    Namely, it was necessary to get gas discounts from Putin as well, and contracts, and interestingly, he knocked out 260 gas and a bunch of different goodies, but everything had gone too far. And then Putin turned up a chance to arrange our Crimea. And he helped for the most part I would have received a pro-Russian country for the most part, but naturally I would not have received Crimea then.
                3. svd-xnumx
                  svd-xnumx 22 November 2015 14: 37 New
                  +4
                  At the same time, Yanukovych bought gas at almost 500 minus an incomprehensible discount of 100. and Yatsenyuk the first contract was a duty at 260
                  They didn’t take off the price for beautiful rabbit eyes, but because energy prices fell. Now if the oil price of 100 is not our tugrik per barrel (the price of gas is in relation to the price of oil) he would have received from the donkey ears, not gas for 260
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 22 November 2015 15: 07 New
                    +1
                    Quote: svd-xnumx
                    The price was not dropped for beautiful rabbit eyes, but because energy prices fell

                    You’re not good at it. Ukraine received a price in 260 in the first quarter of 2014 when no one had heard of a fall in energy prices. They gave it to Yanyk, but late, they only showed that before that the price was not market.
                    1. svd-xnumx
                      svd-xnumx 22 November 2015 15: 44 New
                      +2
                      You’re not good at it. Ukraine received a price in 260 in the first quarter of 2014 when no one had heard of a fall in energy prices. They gave it to Yanyk, but late, they only showed that before that the price was not market.
                      I wrote a comment in the footsteps of your
                      At the same time, Yanukovych bought gas at almost 500 minus an incomprehensible discount of 100. and Yatsenyuk the first contract was a duty at 260
                      and here it was about Yatsenyuk. And what about the market price, what prevented you from “walking” around the market, finding cheaper? From the Slovaks, in Poland, to buy gas with their then price for the same 500 bucks, or to build a pipeline to Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan?
                    2. Kars
                      Kars 22 November 2015 19: 02 New
                      +1
                      Quote: svd-xnumx
                      to build a gas pipeline to Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan?

                      It was precisely Russia that prevented it. And how Putin easily threw off the price all the same showed that it was political. And to be honest, it was precisely this price that Yanyka promised before signing the Kharkiv Agreements. He even voiced it in the introduction, and then it’s not clear discount going some kind of offset.
                4. Kars
                  Kars 22 November 2015 15: 08 New
                  +1
                  Quote: svd-xnumx
                  The price was not dropped for beautiful rabbit eyes, but because energy prices fell

                  You’re not good at it. Ukraine received a price in 260 in the first quarter of 2014 when no one had heard of a fall in energy prices. They gave it to Yanyk, but late, they only showed that before that the price was not market.
    2. Azitral
      Azitral 22 November 2015 11: 08 New
      +4
      At hospitals: AR, AIP, even operational illuminators have batteries, + each large hospital has backup generators, even in 1993, if anything, they included. But this is not a "nenka", this is the starving Volga region, in the Crimea - I do not know. Those experts, those whom I know, sent to the Crimea, in fact, according to the order, are qualified people. And: if NOW comes to the direct entry of troops, it is not a fact that the 404 will intervene very much. Nonecha is not like this, unpredictable.
  • shurik
    shurik 22 November 2015 09: 34 New
    +3
    Yes, we have no light. We’ll survive, "the Crimeans are already writing on social networks.

    There is NO electricity, but do they write in social networks? Firewood Internet ???
    1. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 22 November 2015 09: 56 New
      +8
      Quote: Shurik

      There is NO electricity, but do they write in social networks? Firewood Internet ???

      Does your phone work from a 220-volt outlet? The signalmen have their own, autonomous, power supply. Sincerely.
    2. Good me
      Good me 22 November 2015 10: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: Shurik
      There is NO electricity, but do they write in social networks? Firewood Internet ???


      fool , in general, or what? Do you think Crimea is a complete hole in which there are no own generating capacities, reserve, autonomous sources?

      Read ATTENTIVELY, you will understand that ernenie "about wood" is out of place.

      22.11.2015, 02: 51
      The authorities of the Republic of Crimea decided to introduce an emergency regime after the peninsula was completely de-energized. As reported, unidentified persons blew up the remaining power transmission poles, through which electricity entered the Crimea. According to the latest data, it was partially possible to restore power supply in Simferopol.
      In the Crimea, after the cessation of power supply, the regime of CHSRIA was introduced
      The head of the information support department of the Crimean Ministry of Emergency Situations headquarters Vladimir Ivanov told RIA Novosti that an emergency mode has been introduced in the territory of the Republic of Crimea in connection with the termination of power supply to the peninsula.
      “The emergency mode was introduced in connection with the complete cessation of the Crimea’s energy supply from Ukraine,” the agency’s representative told the agency.
      Previously, information appeared that the unknowns blew up the two remaining pylons of power lines, through which the Crimea was supplied with electricity. The settlements of the republic were completely de-energized.
      As noted in the Crimean Emergencies Ministry, currently important infrastructure and social facilities are connected to emergency power sources. “Important infrastructure and social facilities of Crimea are connected to emergency power sources. In particular, we are talking about social facilities, such as operating departments of hospitals, ”Ivanov said.
      At the same time, according to him, own generation allows providing partial power supply in a number of regions of the Crimea, in particular, in Simferopol, where there is even a mobile connection.
      Recall that the first two power transmission towers, on which the peninsula was supplied with electricity, were blown up by unknown November 20. Later, the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation reported that Ukraine promised to restore the damaged lines. Also in Russia, in connection with the current situation, an operational headquarters for power supply to the Crimea was created.

      Original news RT in Russian:
      https://russian.rt.com/article/131746
  • fyvaprold
    fyvaprold 22 November 2015 09: 24 New
    +6
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Curious, what's the point?

    I don’t know what is the meaning of the "oldest" in this "action", but there will obviously be benefits from it. If I’m not mistaken, our power engineers “feared” the cable to be laid before the beginning of 2016, and now they have a unique chance to finish the cable earlier. The most “funny” thing is that after completion of work, Ukraine will have no reason to demand “free” kilowatts from Russia under the pretext of energy supply to Crimea. IMHO Did it, or zrada? Sincerely.
  • Saratovets
    Saratovets 22 November 2015 09: 27 New
    +8
    Kakly and meaning !? stop just what would be.
    From myself I will say, I demand the introduction of electricians to Ukraine! accompanied by
    1. Good me
      Good me 22 November 2015 11: 25 New
      +6
      Quote: Saratovets
      From myself I will say, I demand the introduction of electricians to Ukraine! accompanied by


      So that in relying on the army of Donbass, their "electricians" to tidy up where history has prepared a place for them? Don't mind no
    2. gunya
      gunya 22 November 2015 12: 33 New
      +2
      Specify: Uncle Vasya’s specialists should accompany.
      Select the most qualified, with extensive experience.
      1. Good me
        Good me 22 November 2015 12: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: gunya
        Specify: Uncle Vasya’s specialists should accompany.
        Select the most qualified, with extensive experience.


        And the quilted jackets-collective farmers from the village of Kantemirovka, and other villagers, will not be superfluous ...
  • vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 22 November 2015 09: 43 New
    +3
    The meaning is just shit.
  • Appraiser
    Appraiser 22 November 2015 09: 44 New
    +3
    In Ukraine, the bulk of not degenerates, but "degenerators"! Once again, one does not come to be convinced that the country is “zombie” from the outside, and their actions are quite predictable. smile
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 22 November 2015 19: 24 New
    0
    This is the usual Ukrainian redneck: "It's not bad that your own cow is dead, but that your neighbor is alive!"
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  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 23 November 2015 09: 21 New
    0
    It would be necessary for them to disconnect something too, in order to understand that everything is punishable.
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 22 November 2015 08: 27 New
    11
    The country is waiting for heroes, and it gives birth to fools! Sergey Viktorovich was right de..ly m..ly..t.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 22 November 2015 08: 27 New
    11
    Russia has stopped supplying coal to Ukraine. Local authorities attribute this to the undermining of power lines. Again, the situation may not be in Ukraine’s favor
    1. Smoked
      Smoked 22 November 2015 08: 32 New
      10
      It is strange that ours did not openly say earlier that if the supports are damaged and there is no light, Svidomo coal will again be transported from South Africa.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 22 November 2015 08: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: Smoked
        It is strange that ours did not openly say earlier that if the supports are damaged and there is no light, Svidomo coal will again be transported from South Africa.

        From South Africa?
        This is only if you have time, and today the majority of Ukrainian thermal power plants have entered the heating season with minimal coal reserves. There are no these 2-3 weeks in the country
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 09: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: APASUS
          TPPs of Ukraine entered the heating season with minimal coal reserves. There are no these 2-3 weeks in the country

          Teleport.
        2. WINovikov
          WINovikov 22 November 2015 13: 25 New
          +1
          Yes, as soon as coal remains for a day from Russia trains with coal will move. Business and only ... Schob did not freeze Ukraine.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 22 November 2015 19: 11 New
            0
            Dogs want to attract attention and substitute Kiev authorities. As we see, the power of Poroshenko and Co. weak, calm pravosekov and radicals are not capable. The West is turning back - even guarantees under growing. they do not want to give a loan of 3 billion. "Wild Field" - that’s what remains of Ukraine.
            And they will present these tricks more than once. Poroshenko and Co. obviously do not want to allow elections in the Donbass - they began shelling and aggravate the situation. And they are not afraid that Putin may no longer stop the militias.
            Will the Kiev authorities survive this winter? There is a possibility that there may be more “rebellious” regions. The tangle of problems will only increase. I wonder how long the West will support Kiev - the EU has already understood everything and it is unlikely that they will put such a collar - it all depends on Washington ?! hi
  • dFG
    dFG 22 November 2015 08: 30 New
    17
    disconnect dill electricity before repairing the line
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 08: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: dfg
      disconnect dill electricity before repairing the line

      We cannot, we have a contract. And then imagine howling “all progressive humanity” about the energy blockade of Ukraine. And purely human, so I also want to fill up a couple of supports. Wow .... !!!!!
      1. There are a lot of us
        There are a lot of us 22 November 2015 08: 43 New
        +8
        Contract! And what do they have, force majeure, organized by them?
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 09: 46 New
          +3
          Quote: There are a lot of us
          Contract! And what do they have, force majeure, organized by them?

          No. They have a struggle for national unity, led by the main Tatar of the Crimea.
      2. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 22 November 2015 08: 43 New
        +8
        So we have a contract for deliveries to the Crimea. You can start with an ultimatum, in 12 hours, don’t restore, turn it off.
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 09: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: Observer 33
          So we have a contract for deliveries to the Crimea. You can start with an ultimatum, in 12 hours, don’t restore, turn it off.

          And what about “progressive humanity”? And so we are an aggressor country. We keep tanks with troops in the Donbass without a lead, and here is an energy blockade? And if the case, then we gave indulgence a year ago. Then it was necessary to talk harder, otherwise everyone hoped for the "good" will of the West, and helped the "brothers". What if the sanctions are lifted. Yeah !!!!
          1. WINovikov
            WINovikov 22 November 2015 13: 27 New
            +3
            Eh. Less GDP would be for “progressive humanity” and Russia would look back more. But...
      3. BMP-2
        BMP-2 22 November 2015 09: 14 New
        +7
        The ATO carried out in the Donbass from the very beginning had a terrorist character and goals: to demonstrate the violence to intimidate the local population and force them to abandon their interests. Explosions of power lines are just another step towards Ukraine becoming a terrorist state.
      4. GRAY
        GRAY 22 November 2015 09: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        We cannot, we have a contract.

        So they themselves refused Russian supplies. request
        Ukraine will stop importing electricity from Russia from November 11

        Kiev. November 9. INTERFAX-UKRAINE - Kiev will suspend electricity imports from the Russian Federation from November 11, said Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine Vladimir Demchishin at a briefing on Monday.

        "On Wednesday, we will stop receiving electricity from Russia," he said.

        The Minister explained that the import of Russian electricity will be suspended due to the launch of the third unit of the Rivne NPP and the lack of need for supply from outside the country.

        Those. they wanted to sell their own, but here's a bummer.
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 09: 30 New
          +4
          [quote = GRAY] So they themselves refused Russian supplies. request
          [Quote]
          Well, the language blurt out is not yet done. How much did we go through last winter, with gas and coal? There, the right hand does not know what the left is doing. The feeling is. And as for the head, I generally will not say anything.
          1. WINovikov
            WINovikov 22 November 2015 13: 29 New
            0
            There, the right hand does not know what the left is doing. The feeling is. And as for the head, I generally will not say anything.
            Everything is like ours.
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  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 November 2015 08: 34 New
    17
    Here is this fucking circus ....



    Siblings ... in a friendly way ....- all the garbage ... then they will talk about how hard they fought with the pillars .... and then you look in the rain with one foot ....

    "Yes, I blew up the pillars!"

    1. MT266
      MT266 22 November 2015 09: 04 New
      +9
      demonic games !! Circus!! Masked Clowns !!! These so-called defenders of the Crimean Tatar people scurry for money and not an idea !!!
    2. askort154
      askort154 22 November 2015 09: 36 New
      +3
      DEZINTO ..... Brothers ... in a friendly way ....- all garbage ... then they will talk about how hard they fought with the pillars .... and then you look in the rain with one foot. ...


      Schuster Life, already covered with a copper basin. Schuster asks for channels of the Russian Federation.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 22 November 2015 10: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: askort154
        DEZINTO ..
        Schuster Life, already covered with a copper basin. Schuster asks for channels of the Russian Federation.

        What's the point? They are not shown in the banderstad ...
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 22 November 2015 12: 49 New
          +2
          What about the rain? There akhezhdakova!
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 22 November 2015 15: 42 New
            0
            Quote: samoletil18
            What about the rain? There akhezhdakova!

            But who needs this "rain"?
            1. Kos_kalinki9
              Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 17: 39 New
              0
              Quote: GSH-18
              Quote: samoletil18
              What about the rain? There akhezhdakova!

              But who needs this "rain"?

              Savik needs a top channel, and then it’s raining, some kind of gloom.
      2. Good me
        Good me 23 November 2015 08: 14 New
        0
        Quote: askort154
        Schuster Life, already covered with a copper basin. Schuster asks for channels of the Russian Federation.


        Yah ! belay Is it a banter, or is it true?
  • U-96
    U-96 22 November 2015 08: 38 New
    10
    Destruction of civilian infrastructure - is that not terrorism? Or is the exception again for the xoxlov? I remember that the Nazis also encouraged "civic initiatives," but even they didn’t even get to that. The country in spite of frostbitten ears.
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 22 November 2015 08: 39 New
    13
    And after that, they hope that the Russian Crimea will someday want to live again under the rule of Khokhl ?! What kind of normal person would want to live in a state-accomplice of terrorism that professes Nazi ideology and massively kills its inhabitants.
    I wish the Crimeans to hold on, for in the modern world it’s hard to live without light, everyone understands this. But sooner or later everything will get better ...
    1. I am Russian
      I am Russian 22 November 2015 08: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: AlexTires
      And after that, they hope that the Russian Crimea will someday want to live again under the rule of Khokhl ?! What kind of normal person would want to live in a state-accomplice of terrorism that professes Nazi ideology and massively kills its inhabitants.
      I wish the Crimeans to hold on, for in the modern world it’s hard to live without light, everyone understands this. But sooner or later everything will get better ...


      No one even asks a "normal" person. Decide for him.
      1. AlexTires
        AlexTires 22 November 2015 08: 58 New
        +5
        Quote: I-Russian
        No one even asks a "normal" person. Decide for him.

        I know that it is so ... I know that there are people in Ukraine who around this bedlam remained “People”, and God forbid they remain so until the End, whatever it may be ...
        1. WINovikov
          WINovikov 22 November 2015 13: 32 New
          +1
          Remained "People", but not enough. Sorry. Such a country would be ...
    2. U-96
      U-96 22 November 2015 08: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: AlexTires
      But sooner or later everything will get better ...

      it's about the Russian Crimea)

      about xoxlah -
      Quote: AlexTires
      But sooner or later everything is onГhell ...
    3. U-96
      U-96 22 November 2015 09: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: AlexTires
      Russian Crimea again wants to live under the rule of Khokhl ?!

      No, Tatars have their own views of the Crimea. It seems to me that the "ethnic cleansing" of this mp3 and method number 1.
      1. Azitral
        Azitral 22 November 2015 11: 29 New
        +2
        I must say right away that I am not a Stalinist, in principle: he did not understand and did not like Russians. But, my God, what a pink humanist it showed itself in solving the Crimean Tatar question. Or are they seeking a Final Solution? How did they decide Jewish in Estonia (the only country in the world !!!)?
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        2. mitrich
          mitrich 22 November 2015 18: 00 New
          -5
          Yes, Stalin not only did not like Russians, he destroyed everyone, including and Georgians. Internationalist. And excessive humanism was shown not only to the Crimeans. Bandera had to not be imprisoned for 10-15 years, but all in a hole, as in Katyn. Yes, and the Baltic states, too.
          But many veterans of the Great Patriotic War, who were in captivity, in the occupation, in 47-48, were also taken to camps for 15-25 years. And how many cripples who gave their health for their homeland were destroyed after the war, being taken to uninhabited islands and thrown into certain terrible death.
          What do you say, ghoul ghoul.
          1. mitrich
            mitrich 22 November 2015 20: 35 New
            -2
            How many minuses have been instructed by the Stalinists-tyrants. laughing
            You need, dear, to hang portraits of all ghouls on the walls, starting with Caligula and ending with Half-Then lol (a noble admirer and follower, in the destruction of his own population, your idol).
          2. Kite
            Kite 23 November 2015 01: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: mitrich
            And how many cripples who gave health for their homeland

            - I was a kid when Victory was celebrated for already 20 years. I recall how many people with disabilities were without arms or legs asking for alms in the trains and at the train stations (in Moscow). Did they run away from those islands?
            1. Kite
              Kite 23 November 2015 01: 46 New
              0
              And how often there were workers / service people with an empty sleeve or on crutches, but who had both a family and work!
  • mamont5
    mamont5 22 November 2015 08: 41 New
    +3
    Do dirty tricks and commit crimes - this is the only thing that dill learned to do during their Svidomo.
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 22 November 2015 13: 46 New
      +1
      But their colorful portrait is forever imprinted in the history of idiocy, as one of the most juicy and finished! .... drinks
  • Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 22 November 2015 08: 43 New
    0
    It’s not long left to dill dill !!!! Soon, these wires are stuck in opu powder and eggs ... Let them shine with joy .... am am am
  • Gorjelin
    Gorjelin 22 November 2015 08: 44 New
    14
    But I have a question, what ... from the Kuban Crimea has not been connected to electricity yet? Was there enough time? Or didn’t understand who we were dealing with? Or act of sloppiness? Or is it incredibly difficult?

    If I don’t understand something, please do not kick, but explain.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 22 November 2015 09: 00 New
      0
      According to the information available two months ago, several temporary cables were forwarded along the bottom of the sea. Low power. Full-scale power supply from hospital cables was planned for the end of January 2016.
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 22 November 2015 09: 06 New
      17
      Quote: Gorjelin
      But I have a question, what ... from the Kuban Crimea has not been connected to electricity yet? Was there enough time? Or didn’t understand who we were dealing with? Or act of sloppiness? Or is it incredibly difficult?

      If I don’t understand something, please do not kick, but explain.


      I was the last time at work dangled to the Crimea in the spring. There they pulled the power lines from Kerch with might and main throughout the Crimea, stretching branches .. moreover, I drove from Kerch to Yevpatoriya and Dzhankoy. redirecting such a flow of capacities is really not easy ... and even at the crossing caravans of cars with accessories for power transmission lines, the Urals office flowed by cable judging by the numbers .. And it’s also difficult to pass the cable through a strait of such power ... by November 29 in my opinion the first branch should have been launched .. here are dill and in a hurry ...
      1. Gorjelin
        Gorjelin 22 November 2015 09: 16 New
        +3
        Thanks for the clarification, I thought that it was generally deaf there, so the process is going on.
      2. I am Russian
        I am Russian 22 November 2015 09: 55 New
        +3
        No, the plan by December 25th. 350-400 MW branch. First of all.
        1. atalef
          atalef 22 November 2015 12: 51 New
          +3
          Quote: I-Russian
          No, the plan by December 25th. 350-400 MW branch. First of all.

          the total consumption of Crimea is 1500MW, on its own can only produce -800mW
          At least 900MW of generating capacities or power lines from the mainland is required.

          i.e. at least another 3 feeder.
          Too much in general.
          It would probably be more reliable to build an 2-3 gas turbine unit.
          They are from 215 to 350 MW, built 1.5-2 of the year
          1. Good me
            Good me 22 November 2015 13: 19 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            the total consumption of Crimea is 1500MW, on its own can only produce -800mW
            At least 900MW of generating capacities or power lines from the mainland is required.

            i.e. at least another 3 feeder.
            Too much in general.
            It would probably be more reliable to build an 2-3 gas turbine unit.
            They are from 215 to 350 MW, built 1.5-2 of the year


            But there is gas in the Crimea ... yes hi
            1. atalef
              atalef 22 November 2015 14: 18 New
              0
              No, but turbines can run on gas and solar
              1. Good me
                Good me 22 November 2015 14: 53 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                No, but turbines can run on gas and solar


                In the sense - "NO"? There is no gas on the shelf of Crimea belay ? Yes, and in bulk yes

                By the way ... Something quite a while ago is not heard about either the oil, or the gas offshore platform, which Ukraine bought for crazy money (BOOshnuyu), someone in SE Asia, and which is the subject of claims against us, coupled with the "Crimean" ...

                I will not “pick the network” and get information from there about the presence of ITS gas in Crimea. Take a word ...
                1. atalef
                  atalef 22 November 2015 15: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Good I
                  sense - "NO"? Is there no gas on the shelf of Crimea? Yes, and in bulk

                  Then it makes things easier
                2. atalef
                  atalef 22 November 2015 15: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Good I
                  sense - "NO"? Is there no gas on the shelf of Crimea? Yes, and in bulk

                  Then it makes things easier
          2. Flatter
            Flatter 22 November 2015 14: 15 New
            +3
            Combined-cycle plants are built quickly, but with the appropriate equipment. They do not make an excess supply, it is very expensive, and from turbines to electric power they are calculated for specific consumers. Of course, an energy bridge seems to be the best option, but even the production of powerful transformers takes at least six months.
          3. vorobey
            vorobey 22 November 2015 15: 10 New
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Too much in general. It would probably be more reliable to build 2-3 gas turbine units. They are from 215 to 350 MW, they are being built 1.5-2 years



            Hi Sanya .. nice to hear an adequate power engineer who can delve into and understands the essence of the matter ... two power plants according to the plan there should start up before the age of 18 .. this is from what I know hi
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            2. atalef
              atalef 22 November 2015 15: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: vorobey
              Quote: atalef
              Too much in general. It would probably be more reliable to build 2-3 gas turbine units. They are from 215 to 350 MW, they are being built 1.5-2 years



              Hi Sanya .. nice to hear an adequate power engineer who can delve into and understands the essence of the matter ... two power plants according to the plan there should start up before the age of 18 .. this is from what I know hi

              Hi Sasha.
              Well, in general, this decision is logical.
              The cable, of course, is a temporary solution, keeping the Crimea on external power is a problem.
              Best of all its generating capacity + 1 feeder for reserve and synchronization with RAO EU,
    3. Senior manager
      Senior manager 22 November 2015 09: 24 New
      +3
      The capacities are large, they need to be connected somewhere, that is, to create a powerful branch to the Crimea from scratch, this is a capital infrastructure project, and this is the time.
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 22 November 2015 08: 44 New
    +3
    Block Urkostan from land, sea and air!
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 22 November 2015 11: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Block Urkostan from land, sea and air!

      What was the grade in geography in the school? However, if you manage to come to an agreement with Poland, Hungary, Moldova, etc., then what can happen.
      1. combat66
        combat66 22 November 2015 14: 47 New
        +2
        But the geography is different. States quite successfully block Russia. Methods to list? In modern blocking, not geographical, but economic, political and military capabilities are important. In relation to Russia, the United States has such an opportunity. So in relation to Ukraine, there are opportunities for blocking. However, in my subjective opinion, Russia does not use them. What is showing? In your patience, understanding, compassion ?! laughing
        And everyone around us perceives this as WEAKNESS.
        Here you are crap on the doorstep.
        Eliminate pragmatism bordering on weakness, lose the "ruble", but make the "bastard" lose ten! Then you will not be blown up, but they will build for free. drinks
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  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 22 November 2015 08: 46 New
    +7
    But if Russia excludes Ukraine from the unified power grid, then Khokhlov kerdy. They will jump from the cold with a splinter.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 22 November 2015 08: 50 New
      +2
      Which is what needs to be done.
    2. I am Russian
      I am Russian 22 November 2015 09: 02 New
      0
      How so?
      1. Tujh
        Tujh 22 November 2015 10: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: I-Russian
        How so?

        To do this, you need to know how a single energy system works. Part of the capacities generated by Ukraine is directed to substations in Russia, part of the capacities generated by Russia similarly to Ukraine. All power plants in the power system are interconnected through substations, they are something like hubs, only electric. In connection with past events in Ukraine, it is likely that Russia is already building its substations bypassing Ukraine, maybe it has already built. Now the question is: how can Ukraine ensure the transmission of electricity to its consumers if Russia disconnects Ukrainian power plants from its substations?
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 22 November 2015 10: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander 3
      They will jump from the cold with a splinter.

      No splinter!
      On a gallop, the splinter goes out)))
      1. U-96
        U-96 22 November 2015 13: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Quote: Alexander 3
        They will jump from the cold with a splinter.

        No splinter!
        On a gallop, the splinter goes out)))

        but don’t give a damn about what and how the xoxls will winter? Maybe we’ll take care of Crimeans?
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 22 November 2015 08: 48 New
    -1
    Ahead is winter, and the blockers are hoping for something else? Weak screams: Sala Ukraine!
    gradually stall and Svidomo-scatter!
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 November 2015 08: 48 New
    0
    Moscow was not built in a day! These Western actions will take a very long time until Crimea is self-sufficient. And this is a huge amount of money. Sanctions and a military operation in Syria will significantly delay these terms, unless of course the Stakhanov method is introduced.
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 22 November 2015 11: 33 New
      0
      Introduce, do not hesitate. Capitalism is not a hindrance. As injected at the shipyards of the United States, when pressed, - take an interest. Inflation, really ...
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 22 November 2015 08: 49 New
    11
    So the time has come to ask those who sabotaged and disrupted the laying of power lines through the Kerch Strait and asked "in full!" After all, it was promised at the highest level to solve the problem of the energy dependence of the Crimea before December 2014, and who was responsible for the "idiotism"? But isn’t it time to begin to “thin out the beds” from the “weeds” that have penetrated the leadership, and a good reason has appeared!
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 22 November 2015 09: 02 New
      +5
      "We don’t give our own." "Now is not the year 1937."
      1. gunya
        gunya 22 November 2015 13: 06 New
        +1
        Each time has its own methods.
        At 37 they put to the wall, not always fully understood,
        now you can simply excommunicate from all the feeders, fine fine for idleness, and send for five years to "sunny Magadan" for gold mining without the right to parole for reflection on their own behavior.
        After departure, send to Birobidzhan for a ten-year agricultural lift.
        Well, and accordingly deprive all the preferences "earned" in the civil service.
        Two - three so publicly "carve out", maybe the rest will change their minds.
        1. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 22 November 2015 18: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: gunya
          Two - three so publicly "carve out", maybe the rest will change their minds.

          This should not be a one-time promotion, but a system! And to punish not two or three, but ALL slobs, thieves and bribes. Then it will be good!
    2. Onotollah
      Onotollah 22 November 2015 09: 03 New
      10
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      it's time to ask

      Quite right, ask, and subsequently shoot a little.
      In 1947, 2 years after the war, the card system was canceled. After two years, Karl. After a terrible and bloody war that destroyed half of the country, Karl.
      More than one and a half years have passed since the declaration of independence by the Republic of Crimea, and the issue of energy independence has not been resolved. Although there are opportunities and resources. There is no war. Fortunately.
      Not in Syria at first it was necessary to restore order, but in high offices.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 22 November 2015 09: 13 New
        +5
        Quote: kartalovkolya
        After all, it was promised at the highest level to solve the problem of the energy dependence of the Crimea before December 2014, and who was responsible for the "idiotism"?


        Before you write, think twice and pick two sources.

        The laying of an electric cable through the Kerch Strait will begin only after a foreign-made submarine cable is ready. This was announced by Russian Minister for Crimean Affairs Oleg Savelyev.



        “Laying the cable is not a very lengthy process. The main problem is the special submarine cable itself, which is not produced in the Russian Federation. The key point that delays us is still manufacturing the cable under international pressure,” the minister explained.

        http://sevastopol-24.ru/novosti/novosti-kryma/kabel-dlja-yenergomosta-v-krym-bud
        ut-pokupat-za-rubezhom.html
        http://polit.ru/article/2014/12/03/krym/


        According to him, the question of how the cable will be manufactured has already been resolved. "This problem has been resolved, and that is why it is possible to say with certainty that we will get a cable transition by the end of the year," Oleg Savelyev promised.



        “It is planned that the energy bridge will be laid across the Kerch Strait along the same route as the planned transport passage. Both the gas pipeline and the electric cable will go to the transport crossing section. Moreover, the requirements for the bridge design require the possibility of laying an additional cable directly over the bridge so that it was possible to run an additional cable line through the strait after entering the bridge, but it will be later, and the underwater cable crossing is important for us right now, "the Minister quoted Interfax as saying.



        As previously reported by news agencies, an energy bridge in the Crimea with a capacity of up to 300 MW is planned to be laid before the end of 2015.
        1. ANTI.KORR.
          ANTI.KORR. 22 November 2015 15: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          “Laying the cable is not a very lengthy process. The main problem is the special submarine cable itself, which is not produced in the Russian Federation. The key point that delays us is still manufacturing the cable under international pressure,” the minister explained.

          It is interesting to know what is still produced in the Russian Federation?
          The absolute helplessness of such ministers is striking.
          And what kind of "superpower" is this, in which cables are not produced and this "superpower" constantly refers to some kind of "left" sanctions ...
          And it’s even scary to think what will happen if real sanctions are imposed against the Russian Federation, that is. sanctions are not against a group of snickering officials and oligarchs close to the “court”, but, for example, sanctions on the oil and gas sector, oil refining, defense, and an absolutely dependent financial system ...
          And for all questions, fairy tales about smelly parmizan and import substitution ...
      2. U-96
        U-96 22 November 2015 11: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Onotolle
        Not in Syria at first it was necessary to restore order, but in high offices.

        It seems to me that these are "two big differences."
        No,
        Quote: Onotolle
        ,Charles.

        ?
    3. Proud.
      Proud. 22 November 2015 13: 50 New
      0
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      After all, it was promised at the highest level to solve the problem of the energy dependence of the Crimea before December 2014, and who was responsible for the "idiotism"?

      Russia planned to launch an energy bridge along the bottom of the Kerch Strait from the new year, but intends to accelerate the timeline.

      Russia is ready to launch an energy bridge to the Crimea from the Krasnodar Territory along the bottom of the Kerch Strait a little earlier than January 1, 2016, said Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak, Interfax reports.

      "We are working on schedule, before the end of the year we must introduce the first priority. Work is proceeding in accordance with the schedule. Maybe we will not launch it by the first of January, but a little earlier. We are working on this issue," the minister said.
  • 1536
    1536 22 November 2015 08: 51 New
    10
    Is this a declaration of war? Will our government again "not respond to provocations"? How long. We are defending Russian citizens in Syria, and an aggressive terrorist state has formed at hand, six hundred kilometers from Moscow!
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 22 November 2015 08: 55 New
      +4
      I understand your anger ... I’m thinking it myself .... well, what should I do with them? Well, do not bomb the same.?

      One option is to specifically give to cabbage soup to specific people who are now waking up in Kiev and are thinking about arranging a brib for garbage ... request

      But there are a lot of these people .... there are really many of them .... and again I just want to throw off the nuclear candy - but this is of course stupidity, because of these di-beats, a war of this magnitude is being carried.

      But for what crests thank you so much for the fact that - all over the world all the same problems have spread ... .... starting FROM WHERE ???

      After all, until the fall of 2013, the world was puzzled - by the economy ... everyone thought it would be better to trade and cooperate without loss. N

      NNNoo! Shchechennevmerliks ​​appeared .... and they transported such a city exactly!

      that ... here is 2015. We have what we have.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 22 November 2015 09: 19 New
        +3
        I understand your anger ... I’m thinking it myself .... well, what should I do with them? Well, do not bomb the same.?


        What are they doing with rabid dogs? Well, don’t they bomb it?
        am
    2. U-96
      U-96 22 November 2015 09: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: 1536
      Will our government again "not respond to provocations"? How long.

      hitherto. Firstly, the undermining of power lines is the work of a marginal bargain, formally “nothing to do” power. Secondly, what do you offer? Popular now "mirror measures"? Collect a flash mob of gopniks and blow up a GIS in Sudzha?
      1. 1536
        1536 22 November 2015 10: 50 New
        +1
        What does “formally“ nothing to do with ”power mean? Does this mean that these“ authorities ”control nothing and no one?
        1. U-96
          U-96 22 November 2015 10: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: 1536
          Does this mean that these "authorities" control nothing and nobody?

          but does anyone doubt this? However, I think that this coven is controlled by them completely. Do you believe in this vaudeville with special forces? Or is it a secret that the authorities behind the scenes use the services of radicals and scumbags to achieve tactical goals?
  • MT266
    MT266 22 November 2015 08: 55 New
    0
    Ukrorody snarls, nonsense freaks, they want to fight with Russia, dirty tricks from the covert crap. In impotent rage. Nothing will calm down soon, the bridge will be ready and still being designed, and they will build alternative sources of electricity on the peninsula. Then they will definitely drown in their own .... e!
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 22 November 2015 08: 55 New
    +3
    It turns out that Poroshenko does not control the territory of Ukraine and his subordinates; that is, there is no power in Ukraine.

    He cannot admit that this was done at his command; nor can it turn off Crimea legally.

    So the question is, on what basis is Poroshenko supposedly posing as president if he does not have power? laughing
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 22 November 2015 09: 05 New
      +2
      He fights with the Right Sector and other radicals. It is possible that if he loses, they will stigmatize the confectioner with the second Yanukovych.
  • PValery53
    PValery53 22 November 2015 08: 57 New
    +6
    How long will Russia go “on occasion” with Khokhlomordiya ?! - It's time to tighten their strap so that they begin to squeak and ask for forgiveness! “Not getting the answer, they are even more borzoi!”
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 22 November 2015 09: 00 New
    +2
    Russia stopped supplying coal (anthracite) to Ukraine, and in Crimea, they said that there were fuel for 25 days, they had been preparing for the development of this situation for a long time.
    In Sevas: “The current electricity supply limit is 65 MW. Life support systems and socially significant objects are connected to backup power sources, ”- the Ministry of Emergencies.
    Before the New Year, the first branch of the energy bridge should work, Novak promised, the Chinese are smart.
  • sl22277
    sl22277 22 November 2015 09: 01 New
    +2
    When will gas be cut off to this under-state ?! They didn’t even deserve it for $ 500.
    "..know she is strong, just barks at the elephant .."
    1. sl22277
      sl22277 22 November 2015 10: 15 New
      +1
      The Crimean First Deputy Prime Minister Mikhail Sheremet said that after the complete cessation of electricity supplies from Ukraine, all major cities of the republic were connected to electricity. Powerful sources of energy will be sent to those regions where we have difficulties with electricity supplies, ”the Deputy Prime Minister assured. PS (That's how the dill once again crap .....).
  • VeterS
    VeterS 22 November 2015 09: 02 New
    -4
    For a year and a half, we have been smacked with this Crimea, we are injecting huge financial resources, and there is no elementary life support, no. It is strange that saloids only periodically dirty Crimea. Normal, sane enemies would have completely blocked all loopholes long ago. Yes, our Crimea, but Crimeans wander the mountains for forty years, if not more. Not all of them are worthy of Russian citizenship. Although ..., buy Dima a new iPhone, maybe then something will move, at least while playing, it will not interfere with its moronity.
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 22 November 2015 11: 40 New
      0
      Normal, sane enemies who declared war would be sane. In accordance with Articles 51-52 of the United Nations and good old traditions. I wouldn’t need a tank march to Kiev, I assure you.
    2. Proud.
      Proud. 22 November 2015 14: 00 New
      0
      Quote: VeterS
      For a year and a half, we have been smacked with this Crimea, we are injecting huge financial resources, and there is no elementary life support, no.

      There is an elementary one. But who knew that they were stubbornly deaf? They assumed of course, but such a "civilization" ... Therefore, they began to build the energy bridge, fatally right away.
  • bronik
    bronik 22 November 2015 09: 02 New
    +2
    The whole world has risen to fight terrorism, can they strike an airstrike on the nest of bombers? Or can’t these be touched? Are they good terrorists?
  • Sasha75
    Sasha75 22 November 2015 09: 03 New
    12
    In the summer, three of these cables were pulled to the Crimea, and the thermal power plants themselves were simply turned off right away, and there was a collapse, but they will do everything in XNUMX hours.
    1. Laksamana besar
      Laksamana besar 22 November 2015 09: 17 New
      +3
      He also laid out this photo once, but it turned out that he was not in the context, the Chinese put other cables.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 November 2015 12: 29 New
      +1
      To supply the Crimea, a floating nuclear power plant of 2 GW is needed.
  • VladimS
    VladimS 22 November 2015 09: 06 New
    +1
    But the northeast of dill conspicuously consumes Russian electric energy.
    Chop off will be a symmetrical answer. Then we'll see who and how they sing ...
    How is it going with the laying of electric cables in the Crimea, who knows? Something quite a while has not seen information on the subject.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 22 November 2015 09: 17 New
      +1
      Questions for reflection:
      Are there any state-owned enterprises in the Russian Federation that are capable of not only producing and delivering such a cable to a place, but also tackling it?
      How to make different "JSCs" do what the country needs?

      In general, the laying of the cable line was planned simultaneously with the construction of a bridge across the strait ...
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 22 November 2015 12: 21 New
        +1
        Submarine cables of such power are a complex technological task. But you also need to pull the “branch” to the strait, and put the substations, and in the Crimea, on the “other side”, arrange reception, and transportation “in the opposite direction”. Such a project has been underway for several years, and here they ALREADY BUILT in two years. The cable was ordered "on the side", there was no one to order it from us. Not to build technological lines to produce several tens of kilometers of cable? And new thermal power plants are being built, under Simferopol and Sevastopol. But in war - as in war. We can disable Kharkov and Sumy. Freeze in the winter tens of millions of people. Will it make it easier for us? Crimea - definitely not.
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 22 November 2015 09: 08 New
    +6
    It's time, Vladimir Vladimirovich, it's time!

    The wisdom of a politician lies in foreseeing the will of his people and outstripping practical steps. What to expect next? Tell me. Continue to complain about force majeure, or, as before, in the harsh years of socialist construction, to regard all actions as sabotage and ... to punish no one?

    Our Crimea. Our people live there. The state has duties and rights not to offend them, to allow them to live in peace! And ... do not care about those who interfere with this ...
    Sorry, it's boiling! hi
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 22 November 2015 11: 44 New
      +1
      Also agree that ultimately, one way or another, the people decide? Even in the most brutal dictatorships? What, for example, can power do if, with external aggression, the people simply do not show heroism?
    2. His
      His 22 November 2015 14: 01 New
      0
      A little patience, urkain reached the handle, the pressure inside the mind rolls. The local authorities there have to relieve the pressure of war, the life time of this country works as a reverse stopwatch on the fuse. Fashington has to make just titanic efforts.
      1. perm23
        perm23 23 November 2015 08: 39 New
        0
        Sorry, I doubt it. We are already the second year we say that everything collapsed, all to smithereens. And prices are rising with us. And they live and invest more money in the army.
    3. perm23
      perm23 23 November 2015 08: 37 New
      +1
      You're right . You have to protect your people. First of all, think about them. And not about the brothers. And then we just hear our brothers there. And we can raise prices for everything.
  • sichevik
    sichevik 22 November 2015 09: 12 New
    +5
    just deliberately went into the ear matzo and fucked. there is such jubilation among the hohlopitheks and our home-grown liberals about the de-energization of Crimea. Well, right they have a holiday. In a word - scum. And, most importantly, they rejoice, as if they were accepted to Europe ... The most natural de-b-ly and oligophrenics.
  • Old26
    Old26 22 November 2015 09: 13 New
    0
    Quote: kartalovkolya
    So the time has come to ask those who sabotaged and disrupted the laying of power lines through the Kerch Strait and asked "in full!" After all, it was promised at the highest level to solve the problem of the energy dependence of the Crimea before December 2014, and who was responsible for the "idiotism"? But isn’t it time to begin to “thin out the beds” from the “weeds” that have penetrated the leadership, and a good reason has appeared!


    Why are you sure someone sabotaged? What is the power consumed by Crimea? Was it even possible to do this by laying the cable along the bottom ??? Or did you have to lay some cables? Someone asked a question about 100% replacement of electricity supplies from Ukraine to the Crimea, or just a reserve? Is Krasnodar Territory ready to give such an amount of electricity? These questions must first be answered.
    And then immediately who is to blame, who sabotaged, almost to shoot. You still ask for the sabotage of the construction of the bridge ...

    Correctly said comrade dchegrinec

    Moscow was not built in a day! These Western actions will take a very long time until the Crimea is self-sufficient. And this is a huge amount of money.

    Even if Syria and sanctions are not taken into account, it is technically purely impossible to do everything right away for the self-sufficiency of Crimea.
    As it was in one of the phrases:
    "if you bring together 9 pregnant women, they still will not give birth in a month"
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 22 November 2015 09: 22 New
      +1
      Was it even possible to do this by laying the cable along the bottom ??? Or did you have to lay some cables?


      Currently in Russia they offer cables with voltage up to 330 kV and their turnkey laying ...
      http://yekaterinburg.all.biz/kabeli-elektricheskie-vysokovoltnye-g231809#.VlFe_j

      J3bu4
      1. WINovikov
        WINovikov 22 November 2015 13: 47 New
        +1
        We are building a railway. You can’t pull the power line in parallel? Rested on the Kerch Strait and no alternative?
        1. His
          His 22 November 2015 14: 13 New
          0
          The cable layer has been working for a long time.
  • Darkoff
    Darkoff 22 November 2015 09: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: Gormengast
    that is, there is no power in Ukraine.

    In Russian it is correct: "IN UKRAINE".
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 22 November 2015 10: 16 New
      +6
      Quote: DarkOFF
      In Russian it is correct: "IN UKRAINE".

      Yes, there is neither "on" nor "B" power.
  • aleks700
    aleks700 22 November 2015 09: 15 New
    +3
    All that was needed was to create New Russia last year. And now...
  • 31rus
    31rus 22 November 2015 09: 16 New
    +2
    Dear, what did you want? As soon as the conversation comes about serious actions (at least economic), the Kremlin answers Ukraine is a sovereign state, so you don’t have to be indignant, but you need to build a bridge, energy lines, railways, all infrastructure. The calculation is simple to sow discontent among the population, plus the economic effect
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 22 November 2015 09: 30 New
      +2
      The people are indignant over the unlawful actions of the "independent" and weak state will (including on economic issues) in relation to this power on the part of the Kremlin.

      The calculation is simple to sow discontent among the population, plus the economic effect


      All! Drop out! They threw "dragon teeth" into the field. Already sprouts seemed ... Is it time to throw a stone in the middle of the crops?
      what
  • Old26
    Old26 22 November 2015 09: 16 New
    +2
    By the way !! In a couple of hours, the wife will call her aunt in Yevpatoriya - closer to dinner, I will unsubscribe about the situation
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 22 November 2015 10: 09 New
      +3
      30 minutes. I called my son back to Sevastopol, since yesterday they’ve been sitting without light, but there’s no hysteria in their voice. Hold on.
    2. perm23
      perm23 23 November 2015 08: 41 New
      0
      It is good to have relatives in Yevpatoriya. How did the season go there? How did people rest there. Should I go there in the summer.
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  • Alex 74
    Alex 74 22 November 2015 09: 22 New
    +4
    If they treat us as enemies, then we must also treat them as well.
  • cormorant
    cormorant 22 November 2015 09: 23 New
    +8
    The most interesting thing is that the government will continue to supply electricity there and there will be discounts on gas, and coal will soon be shipped again. They are our brothers Slavs ... Tfu ... So I want to swear obscenities ...
    1. Good me
      Good me 22 November 2015 09: 30 New
      +9
      Quote: cormorant
      The most interesting thing is that the government will continue to supply electricity there and there will be discounts on gas, and coal will soon be shipped again. They are our brothers Slavs ... Tfu ... So I want to swear obscenities ...


      Under the “help to the brothers-Slavs”, banal business schemes with the local oligarch brothers are disguised ...
  • izya top
    izya top 22 November 2015 09: 25 New
    +5
    igil arranges terrorist attacks on foreign territory, and ugil on his fool
    1. Good me
      Good me 22 November 2015 09: 34 New
      +7
      Quote: iza top
      igil arranges terrorist attacks on foreign territory, and ugil on his
  • populist
    populist 22 November 2015 09: 27 New
    +1
    It was necessary to think about the supply of Crimea and about communications in the Crimea in March-September 2014. But even now it is not too late to create a small Novorossia along the left bank of the lower reaches of the Dnieper.
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 22 November 2015 09: 30 New
    20
    By New Year 400 megawatts will be launched:





    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 22 November 2015 09: 32 New
      +6
      This is truly a balm for wounds ...
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 22 November 2015 09: 34 New
    +9
    The heating of provocations is growing. They climb from their skins to provoke at least a small, local action of the troops of the Russian Federation and pass it off as a full-scale offensive, and pull the troops of the nata into the territory of the dill.
    And so I want to roll a couple of ampoules from this flamethrower into this crowd ... Gorgeous sedative.
  • BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 22 November 2015 09: 36 New
    +8
    I repeat once again ... We are in a state of war with Ukraine. In any case, Ukraine is definitely waging a war with us, including a terrorist one. And we continue to "drive trains to the enemy, as in the 41st." If in the war one of it limits itself, then it has every chance to lose. The time has come to decide. Pull the rubber and grind the possibilities are gone. The war against Igilovsky terrorism is of course very important, but this dirty enemy directly at the border is unbearable.
    There are two ways out. First. We like this state of things, we are masochistic, and so it will go on. More and more increasing in amplitude, because of the increasingly impudent enemy from impunity.
    Second, in one sharp movement to besiege the punishers. And here, by the way, there are a lot of options ... From the point-blank elimination of terrorist leaders to a mirror response, the complete blocking of everything, including the access of Ukrainian citizens to the territory of Russia. Well, etc.
    Dear friends, the detected disease is treated with all available methods and means, and not hushed up, dooming the body to irreversible consequences.
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    2. WINovikov
      WINovikov 22 November 2015 13: 51 New
      +2
      We don’t surrender ours! Now is not the 37th. And who are yours?
    3. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 22 November 2015 16: 50 New
      +4
      But did I come up with a war about the Ukrainians with us? Yes, over the past year and a half, Ukraine, according to its reports, twice destroyed the Russian Army. And be sure that if we continue to chew snot, then this version will go into all European and world textbooks ... And heroically not allowing the "invaders" to Europe, banderlogs in European eyes are also heroes. Doesn’t the Ukrainian people shout, including even schoolchildren, that we are knives and gilyaka. For the gullible and incomprehensible, I’ll explain this is a call to the physical destruction of us. are there any sanctions against us, both political and economic?
      Or maybe I'm the only one aware that Russia has been swelling billions in them for more than twenty years. So, our Guarantor voiced this.
      You can tell me that not everyone there is ... well, there were good people in fascist Germany, but there was no way to sort them. And then the elections of the ancients and greats took place ... what do we see? All the same Bandera funny faces! So it’s the people’s choice, it’s their will! And those who did not vote simply poured water on the fascist mill.
      Undermining power lines is the most real terrorist attack against Russian citizens. Or, in the opinion of those who neglect the terrorist attack, is it only when your family members are being cut?
      I can imagine how cowboys would have acted in our place ... I doubt that there would have been any milehlyundii ..
    4. perm23
      perm23 23 November 2015 08: 43 New
      0
      It’s not right to agree with a bandit. Any concessions are our weakness.
      And then play out.
  • uralex
    uralex 22 November 2015 09: 36 New
    0
    This is what I don’t understand: Crimea has been in Russia for two years. couldn’t it be possible in two years to create autonomous energy resources or to supply electricity through Russia? And do not negotiate with the hostile Ukrainians, with whom it is useless to negotiate, and even from whom this Crimea was overcome ...
    And the fact that Ukrainians themselves are evil Pinocchio-is a fact)))
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 22 November 2015 10: 39 New
      13
      To create energy supply for 2 million people on an isolated peninsula is not angry reviews on the Internet scribble. Only design and research work took almost a year. In order to bring the necessary load to the strait, it is necessary to take it from somewhere and conduct something plus the energy bridge itself. Cables for the energy bridge were found only by the Chinese. We have the required performance characteristics produced air and underground, and underwater only designed for less load. To build because of the cable, which is needed once every 50 years, is naturally stupid, so they ordered it from the Chinese in Shanghai (as far as I remember). Now the Chinese have brought the first cable and are laying it. The second phase of the bridge will be in the summer. All Crimean power plants are being modernized, 2 more have begun to be built - will be ready by 2018. The thing to do is not to scratch your tongue.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 22 November 2015 12: 35 New
        0
        Pull the cable into the pipe, and the problem is solved.
        1. AdekvatNICK
          AdekvatNICK 22 November 2015 16: 46 New
          +2
          you are so simple. One of you apparently figured out how to solve the problem, but in the government some idiots are sitting right?
  • AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 22 November 2015 09: 54 New
    +5
    the censor began to block our providers.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 22 November 2015 12: 57 New
      +3
      By the way, about censor.ru ... Rostelecom claims that it doesn’t block ... Apparently, I got a drum in my system unit ... laughing
      And on the topic ... It's hard to say for sure. There are no relatives there, no acquaintances either ... I hope that all measures have been taken in Crimea, because I remember that a similar situation was worked out a year ago ...
      PySy. The video is not the topic, but ...
  • BOB044
    BOB044 22 November 2015 09: 56 New
    +3
    It's time to tie up with this fraternity with Ukraine. Everything must be based on business, you don’t want normal relations as neighbors. Eat your beetroot and stoke wood with a stove. Fortunately, trees still remained in Kiev. And Crimea had to be put on the Russian supply of electric energy for a long time. And in the tone of good thoughts they get into the head that someone did not imagine such a scenario, it is funny and surprising.
    1. stappler 2
      stappler 2 22 November 2015 14: 07 New
      0
      this will not happen under Putin, he respects the “partners” very much, and everyone, he’s generally a great specialist in the game, ironing, they spit at him and he hisses weakly, he has not warmed up escho ...
  • cergey51046
    cergey51046 22 November 2015 10: 00 New
    -1
    Could not fit the power plant ships or drop the cable? What kind of disorderlessness, we agreed with Ukraine and calmed down. And to build a bridge for years, and to fill the isthmus and that’s it.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 22 November 2015 10: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: cergey51046
      yes to fill the isthmus and all.

      And arrange an environmental disaster in the Sea of ​​Azov. Do we need this?
    2. mitrich
      mitrich 22 November 2015 18: 36 New
      -2
      That's where a floating nuclear power plant would come in handy! But we have, as always, nothing on time, not ready! And as they say, "a good spoon for dinner." request
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 22 November 2015 18: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: mitrich
        That's where a floating nuclear power plant would come in handy!

        Oh Lord .. where do you get these ...

        Quote: mitrich
        we have, as always, nothing on time, not ready!

        I don’t know how it is there. AND

        Quote: http://www.atomic-energy.ru/PATES
        The Akademik Lomonosov floating nuclear power plant is the lead project for a series of low-power mobile transportable power units. PATES power plant has a maximum electric power of more than 70 MW and includes two KLT-40S reactor plants

        Quote: http://www.atomic-energy.ru/news/2015/06/09/57519
        At the moment, the construction of Akademik Lomonosov is proceeding in accordance with the schedule, and the power unit, as planned, will be transferred to the customer in the fall of 2016 - Rosenergoatom Concern (Rosatom State Electric Power Division).

        Only here is the problem:

        - such “Academics” in the Crimea need 100 pieces, or even a little more
        - no one ever intended to build a “floating” nuclear power plant for the Crimea, other projects are being implemented there.

        Quote: mitrich
        as they say, "a good spoon for dinner"

        Not "good", but "road" (c) Russian folk .. proverb wink

        Voooot yes
        1. mitrich
          mitrich 22 November 2015 20: 45 New
          -2
          And they take us like that in Russia, not in America! lol
          And with the proverb they have eaten, it’s great to see from afar, even from Democracy of Evil! laughing
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 November 2015 10: 02 New
    +5
    If for 25 years they have not done anything with networks in the Crimea, then in a year there will be so many routine repairs. In general, it is not clear to me, they are selling electricity to us, not giving.
    1. behemot
      behemot 22 November 2015 14: 10 New
      +1
      Yes, they are sick on the head. A normal person cannot understand them. These are mentally ill people, plus anarchy, and here is the result.
    2. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK 22 November 2015 17: 43 New
      +2
      Yes, what is not clear. Soon, their sale will end since the cable is coming from Russia. Therefore, to get out of the picture with a proudly raised head in front of our electorate. Ukraine will not stop deliveries in fact, but it blows up power lines like that, see how we press these Russians hard .And in fact ordinary ushlopki.
  • Reinhard
    Reinhard 22 November 2015 10: 17 New
    +3
    Nothing. Let the dirty tricks. Crimea will be with its own electricity! wink
  • Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 22 November 2015 10: 28 New
    +9
    Ukrainian crap. However, sooner or later she will be surprised to learn that all this time she was crap on her own.
    1. U-96
      U-96 22 November 2015 14: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Yoon Clob
      Ukrainian crap.

      Hadya for because.