Crimea was left without electricity

All settlements of the Republic of Crimea were left without electricity, coming to the peninsula from Ukraine on four lines, reports TASS. The information was confirmed in the Ministry of Emergency Situations and in the company "Krymenergo".

"The Crimea is completely disabled, I can not give details yet,"

said company director Victor Plakida.

Power engineers first of all began to connect life-support objects to reserve sources.

“Now all backup power sources are used, including mobile generators and power plants. First of all, social objects and life support objects are connected, ”a source in the republican government told the agency.

To coordinate the activities of all services dealing with this problem, an operational headquarters has been established in the Ministry of Energy of Crimea.

We will remind, on Friday it was reported about damage in the Kherson region 2-x transmission towers leading to the peninsula. As a result, two of the four lines had to be turned off.

Crimeans were notified of a possible limitation of electricity supply. Residents were asked to “charge the batteries, stock up with water and without the need not to turn on electrical appliances during the hours of morning and evening peak loads.”

However, later the head of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Sergey Aksyonov, told journalists that there was no threat of disconnection.

“The headquarters mobilized all employees who should be responsible for the accuracy and safety of electricity supply in the territory of the Republic of Crimea. All were in the workplace, were ready. But, nevertheless, there were no outages, it was not necessary to introduce restriction graphs, he said.

Comments

[Dezinto]

Degenerates !.

Curious, what's the point? According to their plan, the Crimeans should immediately appear, apologize that they did not voluntarily eat glass, and ask them to return to "ETU" Ukraine?

[AlexTires]

A typical trick for dill - nothing surprising in this. Panic and hysteria, plus complete sexual impotence to do anything.

[g1v2]

This is not a trick, but a terrorist attack and it should be treated the same way. Now these lessons around the blown power lines are crowded, the repairmen are not allowed in, and they are shining a placard in front of the cameras. In my opinion, each of us needs to be put on the wanted list for terrorism, to appoint a reward, albeit a small one, and to carry out the necessary forceful actions by our special services for detention or liquidation. Plus, the main Tatarodegenerate Lyanurov has a business in the Crimea. Confiscate all the way to the erased underpants. Those who are crowded around him also probably have property in the Crimea - so also confiscate. This act is enough to declare the Mejlis a terrorist organization and prohibit everything connected with it. In my opinion, the guys started playing partisans and crossed the line beyond which the igil and nusra hang out.

[bulvas]

Ukram it's a shame that they forgot about them, everyone switched to Syria

We need to draw attention to ourselves, and the West must again blame Russia for something

We are waiting for more provocations

[larand]

Quote: bulvas

Ukram it's a shame that they forgot about them, everyone switched to Syria
We need to draw attention to ourselves, and the West must again blame Russia for something
We are waiting for more provocations

Waiting for more provocations is Medvedev's. Almost two years have passed and still the power lines in the Crimea have not been extended. The government has lost its grip in all its glory, only they can stuff and they can, damn secret people.

[bulvas]

Quote: larand

Almost two years have passed and still the power lines in the Crimea have not been extended.

It seems like this December they should finish

Although, maybe someone knows and knows how to do it faster?

Just remember a good Russian proverb about coolies tossing and turning

[captain]

Gentlemen commenting! I read your comments and I am surprised to learn that it turns out to be sloppiness, mediocrity, hatred and connivance of our leaders, Ukrainians are to blame !!. Now I understand why we have bad roads, the Americans are to blame. And the Germans are apparently selling gasoline. And the Jews destroyed our aviation industry. based on some comment. The fact that Ukraine could stop supplying electricity to Crimea was warned by Dr. Ioffe in February 2014, at the same time he was proposing a solution to this issue, which he had been proposing to resolve within a maximum of nine months. The Urals proposed to build several gas power plants in a very short period. Is it really so naive in our government? that could not calculate this question? I suggest that until the bridge is built, make it drawable. and then the Ukrainians will launch a ship 40m high and destroy the bridge. they will not ask us for permission, because they consider the Kerch Strait their own. And then it will be too late to be angry, it will be necessary to restore the destroyed for a long time and again the Ukrainians will be to blame.

[Throw]

And in what place do you tell me to draw a drawbridge? In each?

In general, it's time to finish the tolerance and turn off the gas.
All the flies themselves will restore and give current.

[forest park 86]

It is necessary to give the "independent" more money. otherwise the bridge will be broken. Probably there will be security, or what?

[Pancho]

Quote: larand

The government of blunders in all its glory

Are they self-appointed? Do not depend on anyone? You lift your head from the sand and look around and suddenly you will see that we live in the PRESIDENTIAL REPUBLIC.

[Baikonur]

chshchshchshch! Dangerously! Caution! Say such things "provocative-revolutionary"!

[larand]

Quote: Pancho

Quote: larand

The government of blunders in all its glory

Are they self-appointed? Do not depend on anyone? You lift your head from the sand and look around and suddenly you will see that we live in the PRESIDENTIAL REPUBLIC.

Before you write about your head and sand, you would read the previous comments of the person you are teaching.

[Pancho]

Quote: larand

Before you write about your head and sand, you would read the previous comments of the person you are teaching.

Firstly, I’m not teaching anyone, why did you draw such a conclusion? Secondly, could you point me to the place in my comment where I’m wrong?

[larand]

Quote: Pancho

Firstly, I’m not teaching anyone, why did you draw such a conclusion? Secondly, could you point me to the place in my comment where I’m wrong?

My koment from 20.11
"If the president is not able to throw out these" zavlabs "and recruit 20 smart ministers, then either he is at the same time with those who are now bringing down the country, or does not control the situation." Any questions?

[Pancho]

Quote: larand

My koment from 20.11

The fact is that I do not monitor your comments and answered a specific one, so take it if you want to.

[kuz363]

Indeed, Russia lost a year and a half to lay cable lines through the Kerch Strait. Yes, they imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad. So they had to be bought in advance or found workarounds through third countries. Or did the authorities hope for the favor of Ukraine? And mobile stations will not solve the problem.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: kuz363

Yes, they imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad.

I just can’t understand why this is not in Russia in order to arrange the release of these very Cables?

[Dym71]

Quote: Stroporez

I just can’t understand why this is not in Russia in order to arrange the release of these very Cables?

The most important thing is the need. We are a continental power, we mainly build VLEP - Air Power Transmission Lines and KLEP - Cable.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Dym71

We are a continental power

Thank you, dear, without you, I would never know this.
Traveling around the "power" is expensive, but I don't have a globe and an Internet

Quote: Dym71

The most important thing is the need

Oops! And, for example, for mines?
And if you need to throw a branch through any water area within the country?
Well, here's how it happened with Crimea ...
I can say with confidence 40 years ago that question would be solved max.

[Dym71]

Quote: Stroporez

Thank you, dear, without you, I would never know this.
Traveling around the "power" is expensive, but I don't have a globe and an Internet

Well, I’ll write in another way: in Russia, underground and ground highways are being built to transmit electric power. there is no energy, no sea routes, and the cable along the bottom of the Kerch Strait is an exception.

Quote: Stroporez

Oops! And, for example, for mines?
And if you need to throw a branch through any water area within the country?
Well, here's how it happened with Crimea ...
I can say with confidence 40 years ago that question would be solved max.

The example of mines is unsuccessful, the power consumption of Crimea and mines are not comparable.
According to the water area inside the country, it is easier and cheaper to get around during the construction of the highway.
Regarding the pace of construction 40 years ago, you are right of course, just in 1975, we started building the Crimean NPP.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Dym71

Dym71

Mostly I tried in vain and did not quite clearly state my thought, but the essence is this:
15 years have passed since the accession of Crimea.
Didn't our "wise men" see any complications in relations with kakliy with all the consequences?
Even if we take into account your "no need", then a year and a half ago the need arose and the "superpower" could produce 5-10 km of cable, and in case of mass production, they could quite easily export these products to those in need around the world, but it is not easier for managers to drive for export copper in blanks, and let our compatriots sit without light, hoping for "goodwill" junta.

[Dym71]

Quote: Stroporez

Didn't our "wise men" see any complications in relations with kakliy with all the consequences?

It is not easy to calculate that it will come to such idiocy. By undermining their power lines, they unbalanced the entire power supply system of the region, and this is not only the Crimea, but also the Kherson and Nikolaev regions - clearly fits into the saying "to spite my mother, I will frostbite".

Quote: Stroporez

a year and a half ago the need arose and the "superpower" could produce 5-10 km of cable

We do not have such equipment and no one would sell it to us, they would not build the line themselves for a long time, they will not do 5-10 km of weather, more than 220 km of cable will go to the energy bridge.

Quote: Stroporez

but there is no easier for managers to export copper in pigs for export

Believe me, this fact is not to my liking, however, for the five-year period, as before, the situation cannot be changed.

Quote: Stroporez

and let our compatriots sit without light, hoping for "goodwill" junta.

They need to be patient for a month, the energy bridge will be launched at 1/3 of the design capacity, the generation in the Crimea will be debugged, everything will be fine.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Dym71

5-10 km of weather will not be done, over 220 km of cable will go to the energy bridge.

about 5-10 I figuratively said this.

Quote: Dym71

Believe me, this fact is not to my liking, however, for the five-year period, as before, the situation cannot be changed.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. And this "cannot be fixed" in all sectors.
After a terrible war, the country was restored in 10 years!
And then some kind of cable .... but "the power of Siberia", ugh, disgusting ....
One sees the complete impotence of power ..., the complete inability to mobilize more or less ... That’s the essence.
And you "+" and thank you for your optimism and for clarifying the situation

[perm23]

We have everything . But effective managers think differently. Generally ashamed. Russia as a prostitute - asks everywhere we need investments. In all cities, deputies mayors to attract investment. Some kind of idyllism.

[mervino2007]

Quote: kuz363

Yes, they imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad.

Two options. Either energy management is not in the breadth of the topic due to illiteracy, or the principle "what you please" does not allow the expectant people to resolve the issue in time.

[Cat man null]

Quote: mervino2007

Two options...

And the third option: you personally are not in the subject of what is happening.

I tried to hint above, check out

[perm23]

Previously, everyone could and intelligence worked and mined everything and at the beginning of Soviet power they could buy through third parties. Now what is stopping. Only unwillingness and our business.

[Cat man null]

Quote: kuz363

Russia lost a year and a half to lay cable lines across the Kerch Strait. Yes, they imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad

A year was spent on pre-design research and design.

Quote: kuz363

imposed sanctions that it was impossible to buy these cables abroad

To delirium .. how many times to say - it’s not in the cable there it is .. more precisely - not only and not so much in the cable.

The electric energy received from the cable must be dragged to the final consumer. From the place where this electricity .. hitherto was not. And that means - to build substations, power lines and other, and other .. And the volume of construction there is not at all joking

Above, by the way, they wrote about this a hundred times, in different variations, at least read something or something ..

And you have fixed - "cable, cable" ..

[g1v2]

Well, why are you p-balls in the poke. It is intolerant. After all, they are sure that in order to build something you just need to really want. Well, or shoot a dozen officials or businessmen. And if this does not help (this is the turn), then it means that once again the power must be changed, so that it is completely down. One thing is good - as long as angry libel is written on the Internet, other people are doing business and pulling energy bridges and are engaged in energy supply. Well, let the boltologists sit and whine. All the same, they are no use.

[perm23]

This is understandable about infrastructure and everything else. But in general, power transmission towers and substations are in the Crimea now. Yes, it’s clear that not everything is so simple, but we must do it faster and not allow this.

[ingener1966]

Speaking of cable. I myself am a power engineer, already 30 years old. So, in order to buy a cable, you need to wait about 3 to 6 months until it is produced and not somewhere beyond the hill and in Russia, and this I’m talking about a cable of 6000 Volts, and in the Crimea a cable needs at least 110000 Volts . And now imagine that a thread longer than 3-5 km (depending on the cross-section) is not wound on any drum, this should be put on the couplings, and given its underwater condition, at least one shift will go on at least one working shift. Well, etc., etc. Therefore, it took so long, and in the USSR, one unit of the station was built in 1 years (the first block), subsequent from 2 to 8 months. The entire infrastructure is built with the first block, the subsequent blocks consist only of a boiler and a turbogenerator.

[atalef]

Quote: ingener1966

Speaking of cable. I myself am a power engineer, already 30 years old. So, in order to buy a cable, you need to wait about 3 to 6 months until it is produced and not somewhere beyond the hill and in Russia, and this I’m talking about a cable of 6000 Volts, and in the Crimea a cable needs at least 110000 Volts . And now imagine that a thread longer than 3-5 km (depending on the cross-section) is not wound on any drum, this should be put on the couplings, and given its underwater condition, at least one shift will go on at least one working shift. Well, etc., etc. Therefore, it took so long, and in the USSR, one unit of the station was built in 1 years (the first block), subsequent from 2 to 8 months. The entire infrastructure is built with the first block, the subsequent blocks consist only of a boiler and a turbogenerator.

Good morning
With a cable, yes, no one holds such volumes in warehouses and it takes time for production, although Koreans do it quite quickly.
I don’t think they will build substations, it’s easier to give the same voltage as in Ukrainian networks.
A 220kV cable exists.
With heavier couplings, it takes 2-3 days + at least a day to test each.
Sincerely, Energy - Energetics

[Baloo]

But you can’t fit a couple of decommissioned, but not decommissioned nuclear submarines without ammunition into large cities, are these floating power plants?

[atalef]

Quote: Balu

But you can’t fit a couple of decommissioned, but not decommissioned nuclear submarines without ammunition into large cities, are these floating power plants?

This is not real from all sides.
To begin with, Turkey will not miss the passage of ships with nuclear power plants
Next -As for the output voltages, the construction of step-up substations, and most importantly, the control of modes and synchronization of electric generators.

[Protos]

YOU A PROVOCATOR !!!

[Flatter]

Reference: Cable laying under water in the main section is provided in separate trenches with a depth of up to 2.5 m relative to the bottom mark with a cable spacing of 10 m. On approaching the shore, the cables are laid in a common trench. The length of the cable passage will be 13 meters, the total length of the marine cable is 480 meters, and the total length of the underground cable is 220 m.
Cable lines are part of the projected cable overhead lines (KVL) 220 kV Taman - Kafa I, II, II chain and KVL 220 kV Taman - Kamysh-Burun. According to preliminary data, which were reported by employees of the company Rubezh-Stroy, one branch of the power transmission line will go from Priozerny, the second will lie from Yurkino in the direction of Feodosia, and the third will affect Shchelkino. The deadline, which was announced to the employees of the company, is December 2015.
Also, until 2020, it is planned to build two thermal power plants in the Crimea. It is planned that new power units at the Sevastopol and Simferopol TPPs with a total capacity of about 1 GW will be commissioned before March 3, 2018.

[Flatter]

4 lines, 230 km only the marine part - not one cable in each phase, given the electric power, laying pipes for protection. Probably constant voltage. Given the preparatory phase, the timing is very tight.

[atalef]

Quote: Flatter

4 lines, 230 km only the marine part - not one cable in each phase, given the electric power, laying pipes for protection. Probably constant voltage. Given the preparatory phase, the timing is very tight.

Why - each cable is a separate phase - 3 cables are a line. Perhaps they will use a system with an isolated neutral to reduce short-circuit currents in case of underwater breakdown - then 4 cables - feeder
Direct current will not be used - unnecessary, unnecessary difficulties.

[Flatter]

Thanks for the correction.

[I am Russian]

Mobile communications dead in Kerch

Since lunchtime, the people of Kerch have experienced failures in communication, or even its complete absence. But since Kerch is close to the Kuban, the towers located on the mainland of Russia make it possible to "catch" communications in open spaces.
The townspeople had to remember what landlines were, and some had to get ordinary disk telephones from the bins to be able to communicate with relatives and emergency services.

http://www.kerch.com.ru/articleview.aspx?id=53069

[I am Russian]

The head of the Crimea declared November 23 a day off due to the emergency situation

The head of the Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, announced November 23 as a day off in the republic due to the emergency regime, TASS reports.

[Hon]

and let’s send our special services to catch hooligans through the gateways. terrorist attack is not a terrorist attack is the jurisdiction of Ukraine, and their problems. they received money for electricity, now they don’t. the question is, why in almost two years they did not provide Crimea with electricity? and if Ukraine immediately chopped off the wires?

[mitrich]

It has long been concluded that there should be a department under the FSB, conducting active intelligence to find out ALL Maidanut and galloping Russophobes. I hope that my own agents are available for this. Minimum, a ban on entry into the RF FOREVER. And then how many frames were already there, as the tseeuropeytsy splashing poisonous saliva and hatred, then they ended up in Moscow and our other cities and towns. What is it like???
And the most odious, like, calling to lay out the lists of our pilots in the SAR, openly rejoicing in the blown up plane, implicated in crimes in the Donbass, a bullet between the eyes.
Massad's experience is to help. Here is someone to take an example from.

[varov14]

We chew all the snot, it's time for the FSB to play in the Cheka, although there were teachers from the Tsarist secret police, and now teachers are liberal.

[Baikonur]

Quote: varov14

FSB time to play in the Cheka

FSB time to rename the Cheka! By analogy (police-police) With all the consequences ...!

[ANTI.KORR.]

Quote: Baikonur

FSB time to rename the Cheka!

Eugene The Cheka and the FSB are completely different, in fact, organizations. The first served the people, and the second a small part of the people and just the analogy of the police-the police ...
Now for the article ...
It is interesting to know if there is a Crimea development plan at all? As, however, this question can be asked regarding the whole of Russia.
Or the entire population of the Russian Federation to move to maskvabad and develop with it?
One gets the impression that the PR show krymnyayash ends and the usual everyday life begins after the holiday, and the state, like the drunken drunk, cannot come to his senses after one and a half year old "holidays".
We all wonder why, by supplying electric energy to China, the state did not have the opportunity in 1,5 years to provide independent electric power to Russian citizens on its territory?
Why didn’t the huge amount of money sent to Crimea reflect positively on Crimeans?
The answer seems simple, our state is not capable of planning, and the entire mess existing on the mainland automatically switched to the peninsula.
I don’t even want to discuss the behavior of the Kaklov’s authorities, but I want to ask what our state has done, apart from raising prices, for the energy independence of Crimea from Ukraine.

[Baikonur]

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

The Cheka and the FSB are completely different, in fact, organizations. The first served the people, and the second a small part

Specifically "classified" meaningfulness! The current impossibility, utopia (the first served the people, and the second a small part of the people) Specially the word "Anal.orgiya Militia-police" did not put in quotes. And I wanted to hint at the letter "CH" in the abbreviation VChK - extremely important!
It’s bad that nobody will read these comments! (For a limitation period! I am writing just for myself)

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

I don’t even want to discuss the behavior of the Kaklov’s authorities, but I want to ask what our state has done, apart from raising prices, for the energy independence of Crimea from Ukraine.

Albert, what did this government do for the rest of Russia? I have an opinion that in our government LADIES there is absolutely no concept of "creation" at all. And about Crimea, our government does not understand at all, why should the Crimeans not like it? They live already in Russia, what else is needed.

[perm23]

It is high time . And why no one has yet done. And business to squeeze this bastard and declare a terrorist. How much can you forgive them all.

[Kostyar]

Hold on, brothers! And not such strollers exported !!!
And this attack only confirms that you made the right choice, and what would happen now, if you had acted differently !!! And this, only a manifestation of anger and powerlessness trembling, before the death of the West !!! We are with you !!!

[BAT]

the fact of the matter is that it makes no sense. Just shit. And shit, not thinking about the consequences. It's like with the food blockade of Crimea. The principle is the same - the worse the better ... But who is worse, and who is better? The old hohlyatsky reception - not zyim, so I will bite. As deeply respected by me Sergei Viktorovich Lavrov says: "Morons, bl .... db."

[Stinger]

Nooo. There's a meaning. Ancient dill, as he argues. Cut down the light and water. In Crimea, they will immediately see that Putin is not that ... bad, immediately the residents will request back. In Europe. Together with the whole herd.

[I am Russian]

Quote: Stinger

Nooo. There's a meaning. Ancient dill, as he argues. Cut down the light and water. In Crimea, they will immediately see that Putin is not that ... bad, immediately the residents will request back. In Europe. Together with the whole herd.

Oh .. I don’t remember who said that, Lavrov isn’t? Who drove this nonsense into your head?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: I-Russian

Who drove this nonsense into your head?

And what nonsense is that? Maybe in blocking the North Crimean Canal? Undermining power transmission towers? In superfood blockade? Isn't that all? You tore me a pattern.

[NIKNN]

Nooo. There's a meaning. Ancient dill, as he argues. Cut down the light and water. In Crimea, they will immediately see that Putin is not that ... bad, immediately the residents will request back. In Europe. Together with the whole herd.

Simpler meaning. They Poroshenko earn money from amers. Fools, they think and they will fall

[dr.Bo]

Quote: Stinger

Nooo. There's a meaning. Ancient dill, as he argues. Cut down the light and water. In Crimea, they will immediately see that Putin is not that ... bad, immediately the residents will request back. In Europe. Together with the whole herd.

Unfortunately, the country "404" was captured by neo-fascists! They have intimidated the bulk of the inhabitants and are wreaking havoc! Trite, but true!
Yanuc cattle ...

[Azitral]

Alas. For the vast majority, the best way to adapt to the fascist regime is to become a fascist. And then, since a person always considers himself good, he firmly convinces himself that fascism is good. Wash ourselves with blood, but there’s nowhere to go.

[st25310]

They are real stupid people. Furious for the plane, thousands and thousands of obtsefakers bombed the ground in Syria. For Odessa, Ilovaisk, Izvarino and Debaltseve arranged.
And for this terrorist attack on the electricity grid will pay your own lives. How can you be so stupid so as not to know for so many years who Kaa is.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: st25310

How can you be so stupid so as not to know for so many years who Kaa is.

It should be recalled:

[Aleksander]

Must be official and tough statement of the leadership of Russia to these acts TERRORISM with an indication of possible severe retaliation. Forget, finally, about "respected partners", ugh on them ...

[I am Russian]

A note of protest?

[Oprychnik]

The answer is already there. According to Ukraine Correspondent:
Russia has stopped shipping anthracite coal to Ukraine due to the limited supply of electricity to Crimea, writes Left Bank.
This was stated by the leader of the Crimean Tatars Mustafa Dzhemilev at a rally near the Presidential Administration after a meeting with President Petro Poroshenko.
Ukraine de-energized Crimea on the night of Sunday, November 22, as a result of undermining the electrical support.
“I’ll tell you frankly - we talked about this with the President - that a very difficult situation has developed. Due to the power cut, Russia has already stopped supplying anthracite, which means that the work of seven power plants in Ukraine will be paralyzed,” he said.

[igordok]

From a comment on LJ open_krym. Maybe the truth, or maybe not.?

open_krym

22 November 2015, 06: 08: 42 UTC

We already have light, turned off for two hours late at night, and, most likely, not because of the Khokhlyat sabotage, but because of the strongest, almost hurricane wind all over the Crimea.

[GRAY]

Quote: igordok

From a comment on LJ open_krym. Maybe the truth, or maybe not.?

Truth. Everywhere was different.
This is from Sevastopol:

Only electricity turned on
November 22, 11: 30
Yesterday, at about 12 am, Ukrainians' neighbors cut off the whole Crimea from electricity. I know for sure that in Yalta and Sevastopol there was no electricity all night and only half an hour ago it was turned on. These are our things.

http://strajj.livejournal.com/3333702.html

[GRAY]

It is true.

All the same, there is still not enough capacity.

SCHEDULE
guaranteed filing
electricity to consumers in Sevastopol
on 22.11.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX
Time District
09:00 - 12:00 Gagarinsky district
12:00 - 15:00 Leninsky district
15:00 - 18:00 Balaklava district, Nakhimovsky district
18:00 - 21:00 Gagarinsky district
21:00 - 00:00 Leninsky district

SCHEDULE
guaranteed filing
electricity to consumers in Sevastopol
on 23.11.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX
Time District
00:00 - 03:00 Balaklava district, Nakhimovsky district
03:00 - 06:00 Gagarinsky district
06:00 - 09:00 Leninsky district
09:00 - 12:00 Balaklava district, Nakhimovsky district
12:00 - 15:00 Gagarinsky district
15:00 - 18:00 Leninsky district
18:00 - 21:00 Balaklava district, Nakhimovsky district
21:00 - 00:00 Gagarinsky district

[sharp-lad]

Also a trip, only a little delayed.

[perm23]

I haven’t read about it, but if it’s true, then this is how we should answer them.

[Hon]

Quote: Aleksander

There should be an official and tough statement by the Russian leadership on these acts of TERRORISM, indicating possible harsh retaliatory measures. Forget, finally, about "respected partners", ugh on them ...

and here they are afraid of these harsh statements ... Kadyrov also said a lot of things harshly, and Moseychuk shot his portraits, and wanted to spit on these statements.
it is not necessary to declare but act, they cut off the power transmission line, stretch their own, cut off the water, make an oatomic water supply, block products, increase imports from Russia. and start in the ass yourself they stick these wires

[sharp-lad]

There should be a reciprocal shutdown in the same volume.

[uhu189]

The meaning here is just straightforward and quite understandable - remember the recent proposal to settle Ukraine's debt to Russia and Yatsenyuk's boorish response to it? So with this alleged "terrorist attack" our "partners" are pushing our leadership to make a decision in line with the requirements of Ukraine. If you remember, last year, during negotiations on the price of gas and payment of debts, it was the same. Remember what happened after?
In all of this, I don’t understand one thing: was it really impossible to route cables through the Kerch Strait for a year and a half in order to solve this problem even from the eastern part of Crimea? Here either frank sabotage, or ... I do not want to call this word.

[mitrich]

uhu189, get ahead!
I also want to ask what ... do I have to wait for the bridge and all the nishtyaks associated with it? Why was it already impossible to throw one-two-four -... threads of cables for the current supply of Crimea along the bottom. Look, the pipes are unwinding along the bottom, just howling!
And in u ... ukrov now! What, our authorities do not know these tricks and their methods of interaction? Truly, our thieves above, only knows how to fill moshna. And besides the pipe on which they sat tightly, they sucked like ghouls, the rest was on their side.

[Albert1988]

Quote: mitrich

Why was it already impossible to throw one-two-four -... threads of cables for the current supply of Crimea along the bottom.

And if you think about it? To provide 2 million people, a bunch of cities and industrial facilities with electricity, do you think it is so simple? It is not enough to stretch the cable through the strait, it is still necessary to do the "wiring" on the peninsula itself with the creation of the appropriate infrastructure, but this is not so easy, but "from the couch" something is required there - everyone can ...
As our ancient wisdom says: tryndet - not tossing bags ...

[bannik]

It took 48 days to connect Leningrad to the Volkhov hydroelectric power station under bombs and shelling (this is both a power transmission line and an underwater one - 23 km. Cable). Yes, the power is not what Crimea needs, but the yard is not 1942.

[atalef]

Quote: bannik

It took 48 days to connect Leningrad to the Volkhov hydroelectric power station under bombs and shelling (this is both a power transmission line and an underwater one - 23 km. Cable). Yes, the power is not what Crimea needs, but the yard is not 1942.

it’s not just not that, it’s 15 times less. Yes, and neither are the stresses. and \ TB at that time and those conditions are different.

[bannik]

It’s just that oligarchs don’t benefit from “their” money, but budget money is not the same scale, you don’t get a lot of money.

[perm23]

Here I agree. nobody wants to work and not earn, not snatch. business is not important people and their troubles, it is important for them to bite a sweet piece of fatty oneself.

[kuz363]

Nonsense. The electrical wiring in the Crimea remains existing. You just need to bring the overhead line to the point of input of the overhead line from Ukraine. That's all. Perhaps the cross-section of the OHL wires from Kerch to the entry point may not allow this to be done. Then you have to use the backup lines, which must exist according to the EMP. Or forward additional wires.

[Albert1988]

Do not forget. that Crimea has been a part of the country for 23 years, which for all this time has not bothered to repair at least once the main tourist and strategic objects of the peninsula! So it can be assumed that there the backup lines have long been sawn into color-met, and the main wiring is in the wildest state ...
So there may be problems tuyeva khucha after 23 years in Ukraine ...

[uhu189]

And please tell me, have you heard anything about mobile substations? In a year and a half, it is quite possible to organize a temporary substation and switch the power from the feeders from Ukraine to it, and re-supply the power from the Kuban to the main equipment. Yes, of course there are difficulties, and not small ones. And it takes money. And stresses. But in a year and a half, this could well have been done, given that Russia is not Sudan and there are resources for this. But no, why. It’s easier for Ukrainians to make a gas discount ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: uhu189

And please tell me, have you heard anything about mobile substations?

Firstly, in Crimea they are already being used - it was reported right after the first Great Ukrainian attempts to disconnect Koryma from electricity, this is one, two - I, unfortunately, do not know how many of them we have, how many of them can be transferred to Crimea (and how many have already been transferred there) and what is their total power and operating cost, so it’s hard to say something definite.
And then - a year and a half - this is the question of how long / short is it? And what funds are needed to fully provide Crimea with sparkle during this time? Given that we have over the past year and a half a cloud of clouds formed ...

[uhu189]

It is a very long time to solve a problem on a national scale, I think you yourself understand this very well. Unacceptably large. Moreover, there are reserve capacities in the power system, there are specialists and resources to solve this problem. But for some reason they do not solve it, or rather, its solution was lowered to the regional level, and there they do not have such resources as the state can allocate. One gets the impression that they do not want to invest in the infrastructure of Crimea. The question is why?

[Albert1988]

Quote: uhu189

One gets the impression that they do not want to invest in the infrastructure of Crimea. The question is why?

To answer this question, you must first answer another - do not want or can not and why?

[perm23]

Previously, the government had to think. And take not only the Crimea and Kharkov. And then do not stop the advance of the BCH, but to finish off the enemy. Lack is always dangerous.

[WInovikov]

And we do not have the required cable. One must buy in China. And then from China along the Great Silk Road, donkeys and camels will be delivered until ... And there the money runs out.

[Kite]

Quote: WINovikov

And we do not have the required cable.

There is. But, the country is big and cable reels are sooooo big to drive on it for a long time. And also it is necessary to make.

[kuz363]

No, there was a link that such a high-voltage cable is not produced in Russia. And abroad do not sell because of sanctions. so that remains a friend of China or through a third country illegally

[uhu189]

Finns definitely make a cable on 220kV, a cable on 110kV is done at us, in Kolchugino. Is it done there 220kV - I can not say, like not.

[Kite]

the search engine does not understand the questions? Try the combinations: high-voltage, power, cross-linked polyethylene. If it does not help, then look at the catalog of Unkomtekh or Rybinsk cable, or sevcable.

[atalef]

Quote: WINovikov

we don’t have the right cable. Must buy in China

Well, why, Finns and Koreans let out.
By the way, do not fuck up but what voltage?
220 kV cable costs about 1 million bucks a kilometer.
If in the marine version, then clearly more, and the problem in general is not only to bring it, but also to make underwater couplings (for connecting parts), each such clutch is made in almost sterile conditions.
We put a special container and the coupling itself for 2-3 days, and this is for each phase because the cable - each phase is a separate cable.

[uhu189]

If you do it, then with the same stress that comes from Ukraine, so that the RP and PS are not rebuilt. I can be mistaken of course, but there seems to be a line of 330kV.

[atalef]

Quote: uhu189

If you do it, then with the same stress that comes from Ukraine, so that the RP and PS are not rebuilt. I can be mistaken of course, but there seems to be a line of 330kV.

Of course, it is better to use cables for the base voltage of the supply networks, but a 330 kV cable (I don’t know if this is the same) costs much more.
On the other hand, the construction of a step-down substation 330 \ 220kV is an even bigger problem.
In general, perhaps it was necessary to finish building 2 new airplanes - both in the Crimea and in the Kuban. (for cable voltage and additional power)

[mitrich]

Well yes, that's all expensive. So we are for email. We do not pay energy to dill, according to our internal prices, but much higher, we sponsor the junta. This money would go partly for laying submarine cables. And they will build a bridge, it will remain as a reserve, without this it is impossible.

[Kite]

How could I explain this to you? Here, let’s say you have money, but you still have to live in a rented apartment because your house has not yet been completed and not accepted for use.

[Kite]

Quote: uhu189

was it really impossible to route cables through the Kerch Strait for a year and a half

- and for presentation, take an interest in what cables are needed (cross-section, working voltage, for which installation method, .....), how much, where to lay, how to deliver, how to connect pieces of construction (measured) lengths, how long does one team it is necessary for the installation of one coupler, how many teams are needed with a full set of equipment and equipment, .................., how many substations need to be mounted and where, ......
This is not a commercial extension cord for 500 rubles to unwind (and then unwind).
But, they promised to install and put into operation before the end of the year.

[mitrich]

It is clear that this is not a coffee on the sofa by the laptop to drink.
But if you do nothing then nothing will happen. Yes, it’s all expensive, but it turns out more expensive, especially in political and image terms, when we are held insane for eggs in Crimea by water, electricity, food.
Not to mention the country (SWIFT, CBR, lack of domestic payment systems, ...).

[kuz363]

These equipment brigades had to be driven from all over Russia, because it was a matter of prestige. And now what, again, Crimea in blockade for the third time?

[Kite]

Yeah, and "a crystal bridge of an engineering structure from your porch to my palace" in one night, since the question of prestige is Where would only a scarab snake find and warm it in order to get a magic ring. Otherwise, you will have to carry a shirt and a "pindjak with pockets" to the market.

[uhu189]

)) You think I don’t know what I'm talking about? Cable with XLPE insulation of marine design, voltage 110kV (at least for power supply to Kerch, 110 / 10 substations in the Kerch area, they do not need to be mounted). The cross-section must be checked by calculation with respect to short-circuit currents, but I think in no way less than 400mm2, its length on the drum is, conditionally speaking, meters 500-600. With a strait length of 5,5 km, a maximum of 14 couplings per phase and, respectively, in the underwater section per thread 42 pieces, on 2 threads, respectively 84 pcs. One drum is quietly transported by truck. What other problems need to be invented to justify inaction? Such cables, including underwater, were laid a lot. Yes, of course, there are difficulties with hydrology, with connection, but this is all solved, especially for such a time

[Kite]

I think you were very wrong in your assessment. The first error is 400 mm2 for 110 kV, this is not enough for one factory.

[uhu189]

And how much do you think one plant consumes? 100MBA? Also, read the whole story - I wrote at least 400mm2

[anfil]

Quote: sichevik

... But who is worse and who is better? The old Khokhlyatsky trick - not for the sake of snacks. ...

Right now, someone is flying from Kuev to Tbilisi, skirting Russia and thinking: "And what for did we dug such a big sea !?"

[79807420129]

Dolboklui from the territory of 404 decided to fall in love with the Crimea, making a food blockade for Crimeans, cutting off water supply, undermining energy supplies, the Donbass from the manifestation of such love, the whole one was destroyed and the Ukrainian people would like to use it in Crimea, only the Russian army in Crimea stands for misfortune and hohlopitek teeth can fly out.

[vovanpain]

Quote: 79807420129

for such love among hohlopiteks, teeth can fly out.

Not only teeth but also a certain bug tie can eat.

[mitrich]

The tie is a little short, it doesn’t reach the shingle, at the same time it would work as a brush for them. And the coloring is not patriotic, where the right sect is looking!

[33 Watcher]

And what is the meaning of terrorist attacks? Usually try to scare. And these are just shit ...

[Amurets]

Cut off the Ukrainians everything before the return of debts. And let Poroshenko deal with his figures.

[Hey]

You forgot about the Russian oligarchs who have business in Ukraine, about Sberbank whose loans were issued in Ukraine, about Gazprom, which, by its stupidity, undertook to deliver its gas to the consumer’s threshold and immediately get to the headstock.
therefore don't expect for repayment of debts by the Ukrainian junta.

[Setrac]

I didn’t see an article on the censor about stopping the shipment of coal for Ukraine, xs true or not.

[I am Russian]

Quote: Observer 33

And what is the meaning of terrorist attacks? Usually try to scare. And these are just shit ...

Wait, after a while it will become clear

[fyvaprold]

Quote: I-Russian

Wait, after a while it will become clear

You probably think that the lack of electricity will not allow Crimeans to watch the zomboyaschik "Surkov propaganda ©"and they all skipping rush into the nanku ?! Mussia Dzhamilev, log in.

[GSH-18]

Quote: I-Russian

Wait, after a while it will become clear yes

What, the next act will freeze your ears to evil Putin?
In a word, degradation.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: GSH-18

What, the next act will freeze your ears to evil Putin? In a word, degradation.

Yeah, pulled up these unicellular with their quirks.

[WInovikov]

What are you? Yes, Garant Porosenko will not allow his ears to freeze. Give discounts, debt forgive, but not allow. Suddenly Europe will be offended.

[Oleg16661]

And the point is to persuade Russia to make a decision on debt restructuring according to Ukrainian conditions. The IMF dismissed them with guarantees, the US and the EU are silent, and the time for making a decision is approaching. So they put pressure on the "sore corn". Pure blackmail.

[Azitral]

There is nothing more destructive for a blackmailer than a failed blackmail.

[Jan Krumins]

Simple - hohfoot terrorism ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Jan Krumins

Simple - hohfoot terrorism ...

Well what are you! what terrorism! In terrorism, a criminal investigation is started, but here it is not gu-gu. “Yes, they blew it up, we’re fixing it, so the Right Sector around the power line was put up for protection ... (or so that they wouldn’t be repaired quickly?) But no investigation! we (the state) have nothing to do with it "

[igordok]

Quote: Egoza

Well you! what a terrorism! With terrorism, a criminal investigation is launched, but here no gu-gu.

Window dressing. Instead of pressing the "button" on the switchgear (substation), intermediate power transmission towers were blown up. No responsibility for the actions, but the cry is immeasurable.

[revnagan]

Quote: Egoza

and in general "we (the state) have nothing to do with it"

The state (the State!) Bears direct responsibility for what is happening on its territory. And if the "state" is unable to restrain the unbelted "superpatriots", then what kind of state does Poroshenko have?

[Vladimyrych]

Quote: DEZINTO

Degenerates!

And what else from Svidomo pig farmers then wait? Wretched geeks have one name for them.

[Junior, I]

Unicellular!

[SAXA.SHURA]

Ukrainians should be disconnected from everything, once and for all.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: DEZINTO

Degenerates !.

Curious, what's the point? According to their plan, the Crimeans should immediately appear, apologize that they did not voluntarily eat glass, and ask them to return to "ETU" Ukraine?

Another interesting question is that they (svidomye) believe that electricity goes to Crimea for free. Well, they give her Crimeans, as before, water. Therefore, the logic in their actions is completely absent. In order to at least somehow replenish your budget, you need to trade and not violate trade relations. As a result, grandmother’s ears frostbitten7 He doesn’t come up with another.

[Good me]

Quote: DEZINTO

Curious, what's the point?

Excerpt from the material, and in full: http://www.politonline.ru/comments/22884213.html

"Yes, we have no light. Nothing, we will survive," the Crimeans already write in social networks. Many residents of the peninsula quite adequately (for the most part) comment on the joyful statements “this is how it should be” from Ukrainians with messages from the series “let's look at them after the default”.

We will remind that on Friday the Kherson police said that "unknown" blew up the power transmission towers that led to the Crimea - after which the Ukrainians "had to turn off two of the four power lines." True, the same Kiva vowed that "the repair work on the grounding of the damaged high-voltage line has been completed."
"If the Crimea is disconnected, there will be an excess of electricity generated by the Zaporizhzhya NPP. The nuclear units are not designed for maneuvering during operation, that is, it will be necessary to unload the Zaporizhzhya NPP. This will lead not only to a power outage in the ARC, but also to some consumers in Kherson, Zaporozhye, Dnipropetrovsk and Donetsk regions." , the press has already written.

"The shortage can be covered only by increasing or generating electricity by thermal stations. In the absence of coal in the warehouses of stations in full for the autumn-winter period, its additional combustion will only aggravate the situation in the power system. This will lead to the application by the dispatcher of the NEC "Ukrenergo" schedules of emergency shutdowns of consumers already inside Ukraine ", - added the journalists

Add:

Russia has stopped shipping anthracite coal to Ukraine due to the limited supply of electricity to the Crimea.

This was announced by the leader of the Crimean Tatar people Mustafa Dzhemilev said at a rally near the Presidential Administration after a meeting with President Petro Poroshenko.

“I’ll tell you frankly - we talked about this with the President - that a very difficult situation has developed. Due to the power cut, Russia has already stopped supplying anthracite, which means that the work of seven power plants in Ukraine will be paralyzed,” he said.

Dzhemilev's speech was broadcast by Radio Liberty.

[vorobey]

Quote: Good Me

Add:

I’ll single out one from the comment stream ..

899 22/11/15 07:22 Ukraine,

I myself have been thinking of joining the PS for a long time; True, the guys have fists, but not very brains. And, in general, nonsense. Crimea. Gentlemen, yes, he was not ours even when. Except for a few flags in admin buildings. Yes, let them do what they want there - all the empires that owned the Crimea had only a "headache", but they passed. You need to proceed from dry economic "consistency": profitable - we sell, and vice versa. But, how is it, for example, to leave a hospital without electricity? Corpses who, in what world will be considered? Am I a melancholic? And, in general, I think that our "hu" is that we copy the hatred and stupidity from our, like, - brothers. Already in the past. Although, it's not even about them - with the Waltzmans and Yatsiks, the abscess is already ripe. To whom, well, this is very beneficial, not even a war, but h ... nya

http://glavcom.ua/news/342180.html

basta karapuziki run out of dancing

[Good me]

Quote: vorobey

I’ve been thinking about joining PS for a long time; True, the guys have fists, but with brains - not really. And, in general, - nonsense. Crimea. Gentlemen, yes, he was not ours either.

Who will take him with such invisible seditious thoughts about the Crimea? Ragul in general, lost his life-style landmarks, and pokes like a blind kitten ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Good Me

Who will take him with such invisible seditious thoughts about the Crimea?

And what? Vaughn Turchinov proposes to lease Crimea to the USA for 50 years! Will the USA only take this "piece" for rent?

[Kars]

Yesterday, the National Guard drove right-wingers near the power lines, as they say, beaten with nags and butts.
And I wrote on Friday that I need to do something

[Good me]

Quote: Kars

Yesterday, the National Guard drove right-wingers near the power lines, as they say, beaten with nags and butts.
And I wrote on Friday that I need to do something

Ehhh, Kars, would you write this, from 21 November to 21 February 2013 ...

But they didn't. They wanted everything to Europe. How do you like the "European choice"?

Is it good Arranges ?

[Kars]

Quote: Good Me

Uhh, Kars, would you write this, from 21 November to 21 February 2013 ..

What is this?

Quote: Good Me

But they didn't. They wanted everything to Europe. How do you like the "European choice"?

Is it good Arranges ?

You are clearly confusing me with someone. I have always been for sitting in two chairs.
and it would have been even more charming if you hadn’t deceived Medved and Putin’s Putin and give the normal price for gas after the Kharkov agreements)) and there would be no such problems - especially since the price of gas Yatsenyuki dropped)) probably for understanding.

[Good me]

Quote: Kars

You are clearly confusing me with someone. I have always been for sitting in two chairs.
and it would have been even more charming if you hadn’t deceived Medved and Putin’s Putin and give the normal price for gas after the Kharkov agreements)) and there would be no such problems - especially since the price of gas Yatsenyuki dropped)) probably for understanding.

You, apparently in childhood, were not taught that "sitting on two chairs" is a rather pointless and thankless occupation, because of the precariousness of the situation?

Even if we proceed from your proverb that: "a submissive calf, two mothers suck," then it is completely unclear what you were going to do in this case with the "rebellious"? Those who actually rode on the Maidan, kill in Donbass, undermine power lines?

The choice between us and the USA did not mean "this and that" ... You chose to be the bedding of the United States.

Do you like this "Europe"?

And with gas, Russia is to blame for you ... What are we at least guilty of?

Although the fact that Tymoshenko, who signed, to ensure the activities of her gray schemes for stealing gas from Ukraine, is a rather onerous contract for you, DO YOUR NATIONAL "product" RECOGNIZE?

[Kars]

Quote: Good Me

Even if we proceed from your proverb that: "a submissive calf, two mothers suck", then it is absolutely not clear what you were going to do in this case with the "recalcitrant"

in 2012 they were not there. just one batch .. Freedom .. and the vast majority of regionals,

Quote: Good Me

Even though Tymoshenko has signed

And against which, after signing, the criminal cases were stopped on the territory of the Russian Federation, and which was planted under Yanukovych. At the same time, Yanukovych bought gas at almost 500 minus an incomprehensible discount at 100. And the first contract went to Xenum for Yatsenyuk

Quote: Good Me

You, apparently in childhood, were not taught that "sitting on two chairs" is a rather pointless and thankless occupation, because of the precariousness of the situation?

if skillfully it is possible.

[Good me]

Quote: Kars

in 2012 they were not there. just one batch .. Freedom .. and the vast majority of regionals,

And then I, oh:

Quote: Good I

Ehhh, Kars, would you write this, from 21 November to 21 February 2013 ...

Quote: Kars

if skillfully it is possible.

And where is she, "demonstration of skill"? After all, FAILURE followed in everything ...

[Kars]

Quote: Good Me

And then I, oh:

You should at least write the dates correctly. November-February 2013))))
and I wrote that I did not support the Maidan even then. and then I wrote that Putin leaked Yanukovych to join the Crimea. Since he helped Yanyk, at least give guarantees that they would not bomb like Gaddafi, the Maidan would be dispersed in a couple of hours, as it was on Grushevskogo 20 February 20 14 (14) years

Quote: Good Me

And where is she, "demonstration of skill"? After all, FAILURE followed in everything

They lived pretty well before the Maidan, while paying extortionate gas prices. Of course, France wasn’t bad, but living was not bad. Putin would have thrown off the gas price after the Kharkiv agreements, and letting the yanyk save half of the difference that would have left a good push for the economy.

[Good me]

Quote: Kars

You should at least write the dates correctly. November-February 2013))))

Ahh ... Well, yes, then the slip came out. Of course, November 2013-February 14go ...

But this is neither critical nor fundamental. Every reasonable person will understand that these are the dates of the beginning of the Maidan and the flight of Yanukovych.

[perm23]

Yes, no matter how much they give gas discounts, what's the difference. What had to be fed all the time from the handle, so that Ukraine as a girl would not go to another. The Americans gave money and all. And not Yanukovych ruined the country, but all taken together. And you in Ukraine, who thought that YOU feed Russia and our common stupidity, consider that everything is better and more beautiful behind the hill. For this reason the UNION collapsed .

[g1v2]

After the Maidan of 2004, Tymoshenko went to negotiate with us, and Yanyk with amers. Therefore, in the next election, mattresses recognized him immediately. Yanukovych gave us and the United States, but more to them. Under him, the Ukrainianization of Russian cities only intensified. Fans of the Kharkov metallurgist 10 years ago were pro-Russian, and now it is the main asset of the Maydauns. The right sector and freedom created the SBU precisely under Yanukovych. It was the party of regions that crushed any attempts to create pro-Russian movements. European integration began to be pushed precisely at a yanyk. The mattresses were simply afraid that Putin had turned over Yanyka or bought it - a loan of 15 billion convinced them of this. So they decided not to wait for Yanyk to buy another presidential term for this money and toppled him. This is absolutely not a pity, because it is a twist and regionals. And Tymoshenko, by the way, at the last election and the Russian Federation sponsored. There, in recent years, everything is sold and everything is bought, and for whom the next political staff can now be found out only by knowing who pays him now. Here our company in Kiev is now opening a factory. 30 PEOPLE FROM KUYEV HAVE LEARNED TO US IN SUMMER. I ask the bosses - they say, what about Natsik and the struggle with Russia? And they tell me that everything has already been paid there, and the most important patriots, Nenko and fighters with Russia, will oversee our business.

[Kars]

Quote: g1v2

Yanukovych gave us and the United States, but more to them

Well, it was precisely the Americans who Yanukovych extended the lease of Sevastopol, and lived for three years without IMF loans, adopted Russian as a regional language. And as for the metolurg phantoms, I personally consider any ultras to be mentally retarded.
Well, I would like to know more about Ukrainization under Yanukovych)) he even took the title of hero from Bandera, who Yush gave him.

Quote: g1v2

European integration began to be pushed precisely at a yanyk.

Namely, it was necessary to get gas discounts from Putin as well, and contracts, and interestingly, he knocked out 260 gas and a bunch of different goodies, but everything had gone too far. And then Putin turned up a chance to arrange our Crimea. And he helped for the most part I would have received a pro-Russian country for the most part, but naturally I would not have received Crimea then.

[svd-xnumx]

At the same time, Yanukovych bought gas at almost 500 minus an incomprehensible discount of 100. and Yatsenyuk the first contract was a duty at 260

They didn’t take off the price for beautiful rabbit eyes, but because energy prices fell. Now if the oil price of 100 is not our tugrik per barrel (the price of gas is in relation to the price of oil) he would have received from the donkey ears, not gas for 260

[Kars]

Quote: svd-xnumx

The price was not dropped for beautiful rabbit eyes, but because energy prices fell

You’re not good at it. Ukraine received a price in 260 in the first quarter of 2014 when no one had heard of a fall in energy prices. They gave it to Yanyk, but late, they only showed that before that the price was not market.

[svd-xnumx]

You’re not good at it. Ukraine received a price in 260 in the first quarter of 2014 when no one had heard of a fall in energy prices. They gave it to Yanyk, but late, they only showed that before that the price was not market.

I wrote a comment on the "tracks" of your

At the same time, Yanukovych bought gas at almost 500 minus an incomprehensible discount of 100. and Yatsenyuk the first contract was a duty at 260

And here we were talking about Yatsenyuk. And what about the market price, what prevented you from “walking” around the market, finding it cheaper? From the Slovaks, in Poland, buy gas with their then price for the same 500 bucks, or build a gas pipeline to Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan?

[Kars]

Quote: svd-xnumx

to build a gas pipeline to Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan?

It was precisely Russia that prevented it. And how Putin easily threw off the price all the same showed that it was political. And to be honest, it was precisely this price that Yanyka promised before signing the Kharkiv Agreements. He even voiced it in the introduction, and then it’s not clear discount going some kind of offset.

[Kars]

Quote: svd-xnumx

The price was not dropped for beautiful rabbit eyes, but because energy prices fell

You’re not good at it. Ukraine received a price in 260 in the first quarter of 2014 when no one had heard of a fall in energy prices. They gave it to Yanyk, but late, they only showed that before that the price was not market.

[Azitral]

In hospitals: AR, AIP, even operating lights have accumulators, + every large hospital has backup generators, even in 1993, if anything, they turned on. But this is not "nenka", this is the starving Volga region, I don’t know about Crimea. Those specialists, those I know, who were sent to Crimea, in fact, according to the order, are qualified people. And: if NOW it comes to direct entry of troops, it is not a fact that "404" will stand up a lot. Nonecha is not just unpredictable.

[shurik]

Yes, we have no light. Nothing, we'll survive, "- already write in social networks Crimeans.

There is NO electricity, but do they write in social networks? Firewood Internet ???

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Shurik

There is NO electricity, but do they write in social networks? Firewood Internet ???

Does your phone work from a 220-volt outlet? The signalmen have their own, autonomous, power supply. Sincerely.

[Good me]

Quote: Shurik

There is NO electricity, but do they write in social networks? Firewood Internet ???

, in general, or what? Do you think Crimea is a complete hole in which there are no own generating capacities, reserve, autonomous sources?

Read CAREFULLY, you will understand that fumbling "about wood" is out of place.

22.11.2015, 02: 51
The authorities of the Republic of Crimea decided to introduce an emergency regime after the peninsula was completely de-energized. As reported, unidentified persons blew up the remaining power transmission poles, through which electricity entered the Crimea. According to the latest data, it was partially possible to restore power supply in Simferopol.
In the Crimea, after the cessation of power supply, the regime of CHSRIA was introduced
The head of the information support department of the Crimean Ministry of Emergency Situations headquarters Vladimir Ivanov told RIA Novosti that an emergency mode has been introduced in the territory of the Republic of Crimea in connection with the termination of power supply to the peninsula.
“The emergency mode was introduced in connection with the complete cessation of the Crimea’s energy supply from Ukraine,” the agency’s representative told the agency.
Previously, information appeared that the unknowns blew up the two remaining pylons of power lines, through which the Crimea was supplied with electricity. The settlements of the republic were completely de-energized.
As noted in the Crimean Emergencies Ministry, currently important infrastructure and social facilities are connected to emergency power sources. “Important infrastructure and social facilities of Crimea are connected to emergency power sources. In particular, we are talking about social facilities, such as operating departments of hospitals, ”Ivanov said.
At the same time, according to him, own generation allows providing partial power supply in a number of regions of the Crimea, in particular, in Simferopol, where there is even a mobile connection.
Recall that the first two power transmission towers, on which the peninsula was supplied with electricity, were blown up by unknown November 20. Later, the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation reported that Ukraine promised to restore the damaged lines. Also in Russia, in connection with the current situation, an operational headquarters for power supply to the Crimea was created.

Original news RT in Russian:
https://russian.rt.com/article/131746

[fyvaprold]

Quote: DEZINTO

Curious, what's the point?

I don’t know what was the meaning of this “action” by the “ancient”, but it would obviously be useful. Our power engineers, if I’m not mistaken, “swore” to lay the cable before the beginning of 2016, and now they have a unique chance to finish it early. The most "funny" thing is that after the completion of the work, Ukraine will have no reason to demand from Russia "free" kilowatts under the pretext of supplying power to Crimea. IMHO Whether it is peremoga, or zrada? Sincerely.

[Saratovets]

Kakly and meaning !? just what would be.
From myself I will say, I demand the introduction of electricians to Ukraine! accompanied by

[Good me]

Quote: Saratovets

From myself I will say, I demand the introduction of electricians to Ukraine! accompanied by

To rely on the Donbass army, their "electricians", to clean up where history has prepared a place for them? Do not mind

[gunya]

Specify: the specialists of "Uncle Vasya" should accompany you.
Select the most qualified, with extensive experience.

[Good me]

Quote: gunya

Specify: the specialists of "Uncle Vasya" should accompany you.
Select the most qualified, with extensive experience.

And the quilted jackets-collective farmers from the village of Kantemirovka, and other villagers, will not be superfluous ...

[vitaliy.rnd]

The meaning is just shit.

[Appraiser]

In Ukraine, the bulk is not degenerates, but "degenerators"! Once again, it does not come to make sure that the country is "zombie" from outside, and their actions are quite predictable.

[Maxom75]

This is the usual Ukrainian redneck: "It's not that bad that your own cow is dead, but that your neighbor is alive!"

[Max_Bauder]

It would be necessary for them to disconnect something too, in order to understand that everything is punishable.

[Dmitry Potapov]

The country is waiting for heroes, and it gives birth to fools! Sergey Viktorovich was right de..ly m..ly..t.

[APASUS]

Russia has stopped supplying coal to Ukraine. Local authorities attribute this to the undermining of power lines. Again, the situation may not be in Ukraine’s favor

[Smoked]

It is strange that ours did not openly say earlier that if the supports are damaged and there is no light, Svidomo coal will again be transported from South Africa.

[APASUS]

Quote: Smoked

It is strange that ours did not openly say earlier that if the supports are damaged and there is no light, Svidomo coal will again be transported from South Africa.

From South Africa?
This is only if you have time, and today the majority of Ukrainian thermal power plants have entered the heating season with minimal coal reserves. There are no these 2-3 weeks in the country

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: APASUS

TPPs of Ukraine entered the heating season with minimal coal reserves. There are no these 2-3 weeks in the country

Teleport.

[WInovikov]

Yes, as soon as coal remains for a day from Russia trains with coal will move. Business and only ... Schob did not freeze Ukraine.

[Kasym]

The PSs want to attract attention to themselves and substitute the Kiev authorities. As you can see, the power of Poroshenko and Co. weak, unable to calm down the right-wing people and radicals. The West is turning away - even the guarantees were growing. they do not want to give a loan of 3 billion. "Wild Field" - that's what will remain of Ukraine.
And they will present these tricks more than once. Poroshenko and Co. obviously do not want to allow elections in the Donbass - they began shelling and aggravate the situation. And they are not afraid that Putin may no longer stop the militias.
Will the Kiev authorities survive this winter? There is a possibility that more "rebellious" regions could grow. The tangle of problems will only grow. I wonder how long the West will support Kiev - the EU has already understood everything and it is unlikely that such a collar will be put on - it all depends on Washington ?!

[dFG]

disconnect dill electricity before repairing the line

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: dfg

disconnect dill electricity before repairing the line

We cannot, we have a contract. And then imagine the howl of "all progressive humanity" over the energy blockade of Ukraine. And purely humanly, I also want to fill up a couple of supports. Wow .... !!!!!

[There are a lot of us]

Contract! And what do they have, force majeure, organized by them?

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: There are a lot of us

Contract! And what do they have, force majeure, organized by them?

No. They have a struggle for national unity, led by the main Tatar of the Crimea.

[33 Watcher]

So we have a contract for deliveries to the Crimea. You can start with an ultimatum, in 12 hours, don’t restore, turn it off.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: Observer 33

So we have a contract for deliveries to the Crimea. You can start with an ultimatum, in 12 hours, don’t restore, turn it off.

And what about "progressive humanity"? And so we are the aggressor country. We are holding tanks with troops in the Donbas permanently, and then there is an energy blockade? And if on business, then we gave indulgence a year ago. Then it was necessary to speak harder, otherwise everyone hoped for the "good" will of the West, they helped the "brothers". What if the sanctions will be lifted. Aha !!!!

[WInovikov]

Eh. A smaller GDP would look at "progressive humanity" and more at Russia. But...

[BMP-2]

The ATO carried out in the Donbass from the very beginning had a terrorist character and goals: to demonstrate the violence to intimidate the local population and force them to abandon their interests. Explosions of power lines are just another step towards Ukraine becoming a terrorist state.

[GRAY]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

We cannot, we have a contract.

So they themselves refused Russian supplies.

Ukraine will stop importing electricity from Russia from November 11

Kiev. November 9. INTERFAX-UKRAINE - Kiev will suspend electricity imports from the Russian Federation from November 11, said Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine Vladimir Demchishin at a briefing on Monday.

"On Wednesday, we will stop receiving electricity from Russia," he said.

The Minister explained that the import of Russian electricity will be suspended due to the launch of the third unit of the Rivne NPP and the lack of need for supply from outside the country.

Those. they wanted to sell their own, but here's a bummer.

[Kos_kalinki9]

[quote = GRAY] So they themselves refused Russian supplies.
[Quote]
Well, the language blurt out is not yet done. How much did we go through last winter, with gas and coal? There, the right hand does not know what the left is doing. The feeling is. And as for the head, I generally will not say anything.

[WInovikov]

There, the right hand does not know what the left is doing. The feeling is. And as for the head, I generally will not say anything.
Everything is like ours.

[Dezinto]

Here is this fucking circus ....



Siblings ... in a friendly way ....- all the garbage ... then they will talk about how hard they fought with the pillars .... and then you look in the rain with one foot ....

"Yes, I blew up the pillars!"

[MT266]

demonic games !! Circus!! Masked Clowns !!! These so-called defenders of the Crimean Tatar people scurry for money and not an idea !!!

[askort154]

DEZINTO ..... Brothers ... in a friendly way ....- all garbage ... then they will talk about how hard they fought with the pillars .... and then you look in the rain with one foot. ...


Schuster Life, already covered with a copper basin. Schuster asks for channels of the Russian Federation.

[GSH-18]

Quote: askort154

DEZINTO ..
Schuster Life, already covered with a copper basin. Schuster asks for channels of the Russian Federation.

What's the point? They are not shown in the banderstad ...

[samoletil18]

What about "rain"? There is Akhezhdakova!

[GSH-18]

Quote: samoletil18

What about "rain"? There is Akhezhdakova!

Who needs this "rain"?

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: GSH-18

Quote: samoletil18

What about "rain"? There is Akhezhdakova!

Who needs this "rain"?

Savik needs a top channel, and then it’s raining, some kind of gloom.

[Good me]

Quote: askort154

Schuster Life, already covered with a copper basin. Schuster asks for channels of the Russian Federation.

Yah ! Is it a banter, or is it true?

[U-96]

The destruction of civilian infrastructure is not terrorism, is it? Or is there an exception for xoxes again? I remember that the Nazis also encouraged "civil initiatives", but even they did not get to that. Country out of spite of frostbitten ears.

[AlexTires]

And after that, they hope that the Russian Crimea will someday want to live again under the rule of Khokhl ?! What kind of normal person would want to live in a state-accomplice of terrorism that professes Nazi ideology and massively kills its inhabitants.
I wish the Crimeans to hold on, for in the modern world it’s hard to live without light, everyone understands this. But sooner or later everything will get better ...

[I am Russian]

Quote: AlexTires

And after that, they hope that the Russian Crimea will someday want to live again under the rule of Khokhl ?! What kind of normal person would want to live in a state-accomplice of terrorism that professes Nazi ideology and massively kills its inhabitants.
I wish the Crimeans to hold on, for in the modern world it’s hard to live without light, everyone understands this. But sooner or later everything will get better ...

Nobody even asks a "normal" person. Decide for him.

[AlexTires]

Quote: I-Russian

Nobody even asks a "normal" person. Decide for him.

I know that this is how it is ... I know that there are people in Ukraine who have remained "People" around all this bedlam, and God forbid they remain that way until the End, whatever it may be ...

[WInovikov]

Remained "People", but few. Sorry. Such a country would be ...

[U-96]

Quote: AlexTires

But sooner or later everything will get better ...

it's about the Russian Crimea)

about xoxlah -

Quote: AlexTires

But sooner or later everything is onГhell ...

[U-96]

Quote: AlexTires

Russian Crimea again wants to live under the rule of Khokhl ?!

no, the Tatars have their own views of the Crimea. It seems to me that the "ethnic cleansing" of this mp3 and method number 1.

[Azitral]

I must say right away that I am not a Stalinist, in principle: he did not understand and did not like Russians. But, my God, what a pink humanist it showed itself in solving the Crimean Tatar question. Or are they seeking a Final Solution? How did they decide Jewish in Estonia (the only country in the world !!!)?

[mitrich]

Yes, Stalin not only did not like Russians, he destroyed everyone, including and Georgians. Internationalist. And excessive humanism was shown not only to the Crimeans. Bandera had to not be imprisoned for 10-15 years, but all in a hole, as in Katyn. Yes, and the Baltic states, too.
But many veterans of the Great Patriotic War, who were in captivity, in the occupation, in 47-48, were also taken to camps for 15-25 years. And how many cripples who gave their health for their homeland were destroyed after the war, being taken to uninhabited islands and thrown into certain terrible death.
What do you say, ghoul ghoul.

[mitrich]

How many minuses have been instructed by the Stalinists-tyrants.
You need, dear, to hang portraits of all ghouls on the walls, starting with Caligula and ending with Half-Then (a noble admirer and follower, in the destruction of his own population, your idol).

[Kite]

Quote: mitrich

And how many cripples who gave health for their homeland

- I was a kid when Victory was celebrated for already 20 years. I recall how many people with disabilities were without arms or legs asking for alms in the trains and at the train stations (in Moscow). Did they run away from those islands?

[Kite]

And how often there were workers / service people with an empty sleeve or on crutches, but who had both a family and work!

[mamont5]

Do dirty tricks and commit crimes - this is the only thing that dill learned to do during their Svidomo.

[AlexTires]

But their colorful portrait is forever imprinted in the history of idiocy, as one of the most juicy and finished! ....

[Vadim Zhivov]

It’s not long left to dill dill !!!! Soon, these wires are stuck in opu powder and eggs ... Let them shine with joy ....

[Gorjelin]

But I have a question, what ... from the Kuban Crimea has not been connected to electricity yet? Was there enough time? Or didn’t understand who we were dealing with? Or act of sloppiness? Or is it incredibly difficult?

If I don’t understand something, please do not kick, but explain.

[KBR109]

According to the information available two months ago, several temporary cables were forwarded along the bottom of the sea. Low power. Full-scale power supply from hospital cables was planned for the end of January 2016.

[vorobey]

Quote: Gorjelin

But I have a question, what ... from the Kuban Crimea has not been connected to electricity yet? Was there enough time? Or didn’t understand who we were dealing with? Or act of sloppiness? Or is it incredibly difficult?

If I don’t understand something, please do not kick, but explain.

I was the last time at work dangled to the Crimea in the spring. There they pulled the power lines from Kerch with might and main throughout the Crimea, stretching branches .. moreover, I drove from Kerch to Yevpatoriya and Dzhankoy. redirecting such a flow of capacities is really not easy ... and even at the crossing caravans of cars with accessories for power transmission lines, the Urals office flowed by cable judging by the numbers .. And it’s also difficult to pass the cable through a strait of such power ... by November 29 in my opinion the first branch should have been launched .. here are dill and in a hurry ...

[Gorjelin]

Thanks for the clarification, I thought that it was generally deaf there, so the process is going on.

[I am Russian]

No, the plan by December 25th. 350-400 MW branch. First of all.

[atalef]

Quote: I-Russian

No, the plan by December 25th. 350-400 MW branch. First of all.

the total consumption of Crimea is 1500MW, on its own can only produce -800mW
At least 900MW of generating capacities or power lines from the mainland is required.

i.e. at least another 3 feeder.
Too much in general.
It would probably be more reliable to build an 2-3 gas turbine unit.
They are from 215 to 350 MW, built 1.5-2 of the year

[Good me]

Quote: atalef

the total consumption of Crimea is 1500MW, on its own can only produce -800mW
At least 900MW of generating capacities or power lines from the mainland is required.

i.e. at least another 3 feeder.
Too much in general.
It would probably be more reliable to build an 2-3 gas turbine unit.
They are from 215 to 350 MW, built 1.5-2 of the year

But there is gas in the Crimea ...

[atalef]

No, but turbines can run on gas and solar

[Good me]

Quote: atalef

No, but turbines can run on gas and solar

In the sense - "NO"? There is no gas on the Crimean shelf ? Yes, and in bulk

By the way ... Something quite a while ago is not heard about either the oil, or the gas offshore platform, which Ukraine bought for crazy money (BOOshnuyu), from someone in Southeast Asia, and which is the subject of claims against us, together with the "all-Crimean" ...

I will not "dig the network" and fish out information about the presence of ITS gas in Crimea. Take my word ...

[atalef]

Quote: Good Me

sense - "NO"? Is there no gas on the Crimean shelf? Yes, and in bulk

Then it makes things easier

[atalef]

Quote: Good Me

sense - "NO"? Is there no gas on the Crimean shelf? Yes, and in bulk

Then it makes things easier

[Flatter]

Combined-cycle plants are built quickly, but with the appropriate equipment. They do not make an excess supply, it is very expensive, and from turbines to electric power they are calculated for specific consumers. Of course, an energy bridge seems to be the best option, but even the production of powerful transformers takes at least six months.

[vorobey]

Quote: atalef

Too much in general. It would probably be more reliable to build 2-3 gas turbine units. They are from 215 to 350 MW, they are being built 1.5-2 years

Hi Sanya .. nice to hear an adequate power engineer who can delve into and understands the essence of the matter ... two power plants according to the plan there should start up before the age of 18 .. this is from what I know

[atalef]

Quote: vorobey

Quote: atalef

Too much in general. It would probably be more reliable to build 2-3 gas turbine units. They are from 215 to 350 MW, they are being built 1.5-2 years

Hi Sanya .. nice to hear an adequate power engineer who can delve into and understands the essence of the matter ... two power plants according to the plan there should start up before the age of 18 .. this is from what I know

Hi Sasha.
Well, in general, this decision is logical.
The cable, of course, is a temporary solution, keeping the Crimea on external power is a problem.
Best of all its generating capacity + 1 feeder for reserve and synchronization with RAO EU,

[Senior manager]

The capacities are large, they need to be connected somewhere, that is, to create a powerful branch to the Crimea from scratch, this is a capital infrastructure project, and this is the time.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Block Urkostan from land, sea and air!

[revnagan]

Quote: ALEA IACTA EST

Block Urkostan from land, sea and air!

What was the grade in geography in the school? However, if you manage to come to an agreement with Poland, Hungary, Moldova, etc., then what can happen.

[combat66]

But the geography is different. States quite successfully block Russia. Methods to list? In modern blocking, not geographical, but economic, political and military capabilities are important. In relation to Russia, the United States has such an opportunity. So in relation to Ukraine, there are opportunities for blocking. However, in my subjective opinion, Russia does not use them. What is showing? In your patience, understanding, compassion ?!
And everyone around us perceives this as WEAKNESS.
Here you are crap on the doorstep.
Eliminate pragmatism bordering on weakness, lose the "ruble", but make the "bastard" lose ten! Then you won't blow up, but they will build for free.

[Alexander 3]

But if Russia excludes Ukraine from the unified power grid, then Khokhlov kerdy. They will jump from the cold with a splinter.

[Amurets]

Which is what needs to be done.

[I am Russian]

How so?

[Tujh]

Quote: I-Russian

How so?

To do this, you need to know how a single energy system works. Part of the capacities generated by Ukraine is directed to substations in Russia, part of the capacities generated by Russia similarly to Ukraine. All power plants in the power system are interconnected through substations, they are something like hubs, only electric. In connection with past events in Ukraine, it is likely that Russia is already building its substations bypassing Ukraine, maybe it has already built. Now the question is: how can Ukraine ensure the transmission of electricity to its consumers if Russia disconnects Ukrainian power plants from its substations?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Alexander 3

They will jump from the cold with a splinter.

No splinter!
On a gallop, the splinter goes out)))

[U-96]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Quote: Alexander 3

They will jump from the cold with a splinter.

No splinter!
On a gallop, the splinter goes out)))

but don’t give a damn about what and how the xoxls will winter? Maybe we’ll take care of Crimeans?

[Neophyte]

Ahead is winter, and the blockers are hoping for something else? Weak screams: Sala Ukraine!
gradually, will die out and "svidomye" -scatter!

[dchegrinec]

Moscow was not built in a day! These Western actions will take a very long time until Crimea is self-sufficient. And this is a huge amount of money. Sanctions and a military operation in Syria will significantly delay these terms, unless of course the Stakhanov method is introduced.

[Azitral]

Introduce, do not hesitate. Capitalism is not a hindrance. As injected at the shipyards of the United States, when pressed, - take an interest. Inflation, really ...

[kartalovkolya]

So the time has come to ask those who sabotaged and disrupted the laying of power lines through the Kerch Strait and ask "in full!" After all, it was promised at the highest level to solve the problem of Crimea's volatility before December 2014, and who was responsible for the "empty talk"? Isn't it time to start "thinning the beds" from the "weeds" that have penetrated the management and a good reason has appeared!

[KBR109]

"We are not giving up ours." "This is not 1937".

[gunya]

Each time has its own methods.
At 37 they put to the wall, not always fully understood,
nowadays you can simply be weaned away from all the feeding troughs, it is good to be penalized for idleness and sent to "sunny Magadan" for gold mining for five years without the right to parole to reflect on your own behavior.
After departure, send to Birobidzhan for a ten-year agricultural lift.
And, accordingly, to deprive all the preferences "earned" in the civil service.
Two - three so publicly "whip", maybe the rest will come to their senses.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: gunya

Two - three so publicly "whip", maybe the rest will come to their senses.

This should not be a one-time promotion, but a system! And to punish not two or three, but ALL slobs, thieves and bribes. Then it will be good!

[Onotollah]

Quote: kartalovkolya

it's time to ask

Quite right, ask, and subsequently shoot a little.
In 1947, 2 years after the war, the card system was canceled. After two years, Karl. After a terrible and bloody war that destroyed half of the country, Karl.
More than one and a half years have passed since the declaration of independence by the Republic of Crimea, and the issue of energy independence has not been resolved. Although there are opportunities and resources. There is no war. Fortunately.
Not in Syria at first it was necessary to restore order, but in high offices.

[vorobey]

Quote: kartalovkolya

After all, it was promised at the highest level to solve the problem of the volatility of Crimea before December 2014, and who was responsible for the "empty talk"?

Before you write, think twice and pick two sources.

The laying of an electric cable through the Kerch Strait will begin only after a foreign-made submarine cable is ready. This was announced by Russian Minister for Crimean Affairs Oleg Savelyev.



"Laying the cable is not a very long process. The main problem is the special submarine cable itself, which is not produced in the Russian Federation. The key point that is delaying us is still making the cable under international pressure," the minister explained.

http://sevastopol-24.ru/novosti/novosti-kryma/kabel-dlja-yenergomosta-v-krym-bud
ut-pokupat-za-rubezhom.html
http://polit.ru/article/2014/12/03/krym/


According to him, the question of how the cable will be manufactured has already been resolved. "This problem has been resolved, and that is why we can say with some certainty that we will receive a cable transition by the end of the year," Oleg Saveliev promised.



"It is planned that the energy bridge will be laid through the Kerch Strait along the same path as the planned transport crossing. Both a gas pipeline and an electric cable will go along the route of the transport crossing. At the same time, the requirements for the bridge project imply the possibility of laying an additional cable directly across the bridge - the need to increase flows, it was possible to pass an additional cable line through the strait after the bridge was commissioned. But this will be later, and the underwater cable passage is important for us right now, "Interfax quotes the minister.



As previously reported by news agencies, an energy bridge in the Crimea with a capacity of up to 300 MW is planned to be laid before the end of 2015.

[ANTI.KORR.]

Quote: vorobey

"Laying the cable is not a very long process. The main problem is the special submarine cable itself, which is not produced in the Russian Federation. The key point that is delaying us is still making the cable under international pressure," the minister explained.

It is interesting to know what is still produced in the Russian Federation?
The absolute helplessness of such ministers is striking.
And what kind of "superpower" is this, in which cables are not produced and this "superpower" constantly refers to some kind of "left" sanctions ...
And it's even scary to think what will happen if real sanctions are introduced against the Russian Federation, i.e. the sanctions are not against a group of snickering officials and oligarchs close to the "court", but, for example, sanctions against the oil and gas sector, oil refining, defense industry, an absolutely dependent financial system ...
And for all questions, fairy tales about smelly parmizan and import substitution ...

[U-96]

Quote: Onotolle

Not in Syria at first it was necessary to restore order, but in high offices.

seems to me that these are "two big differences."
No,

Quote: Onotolle

,Charles.

?

[Proud.]

Quote: kartalovkolya

After all, it was promised at the highest level to solve the problem of the volatility of Crimea before December 2014, and who was responsible for the "empty talk"?

Russia planned to launch an energy bridge along the bottom of the Kerch Strait from the new year, but intends to accelerate the timeline.

Russia is ready to launch an energy bridge to the Crimea from the Krasnodar Territory along the bottom of the Kerch Strait a little earlier than January 1, 2016, said Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak, Interfax reports.

"We are working on schedule, we must introduce the first stage by the end of the year. Work is proceeding in accordance with the schedule. Maybe we will not launch it by January XNUMX, but a little earlier. We are working on this issue," the minister said.

[1536]

Is this a declaration of war? Will our government "not respond to provocations" again? Until then. We are defending the citizens of Russia in Syria, and an aggressive terrorist state has been formed nearby, six hundred kilometers from Moscow!

[Dezinto]

I understand your anger ... I’m thinking it myself .... well, what should I do with them? Well, do not bomb the same.?

One option is to specifically give to cabbage soup to specific people who are now waking up in Kiev and are thinking about arranging a brib for garbage ...

But there are a lot of these people .... there are really many of them .... and again I just want to throw off the nuclear candy - but this is of course stupidity, because of these di-beats, a war of this magnitude is being carried.

But for what crests thank you so much for the fact that - all over the world all the same problems have spread ... .... starting FROM WHERE ???

After all, until the fall of 2013, the world was puzzled - by the economy ... everyone thought it would be better to trade and cooperate without loss. N

NNNoo! Shchechennevmerliks ​​appeared .... and they transported such a city exactly!

that ... here is 2015. We have what we have.

[yuriy55]

I understand your anger ... I’m thinking it myself .... well, what should I do with them? Well, do not bomb the same.?

What are they doing with rabid dogs? Well, don’t they bomb it?

[U-96]

Quote: 1536

Will our government "not respond to provocations" again? Until then.

hitherto. Firstly, the undermining of power lines is the work of a marginal tatara, formally the authorities of the "have nothing to do with it" type. Secondly, what do you suggest? Popular "mirror measures" today? Collect a flash mob of gopniks and blow up the GIS in Sudja?

[1536]

What does it mean “formally, authorities of the type“ have nothing to do with it? ”Does this mean that these“ authorities ”control nothing and no one?

[U-96]

Quote: 1536

Does this mean that these "authorities" do not control anything or anyone?

but does anyone doubt this? However, I think that this coven is controlled by them completely. Do you believe in this vaudeville with special forces? Or is it a secret that the authorities behind the scenes use the services of radicals and scumbags to achieve tactical goals?

[MT266]

Ukrorody snarls, nonsense freaks, they want to fight with Russia, dirty tricks from the covert crap. In impotent rage. Nothing will calm down soon, the bridge will be ready and still being designed, and they will build alternative sources of electricity on the peninsula. Then they will definitely drown in their own .... e!

[Gormenghast]

It turns out that Poroshenko does not control the territory of Ukraine and his subordinates; that is, there is no power in Ukraine.

He cannot admit that this was done at his command; nor can it turn off Crimea legally.

So the question is, on what basis is Poroshenko supposedly posing as president if he does not have power?

[KBR109]

He fights with the Right Sector and other radicals. It is possible that if he loses, they will stigmatize the confectioner with the second Yanukovych.

[PValery53]

How long will Russia go "on the pretense" of Khokhlomordia ?! - It's time to tighten their straps so that they begin to squeak and ask for forgiveness! - Not receiving a reply, they are even more greyhound!

[Laksamana besar]

Russia stopped supplying coal (anthracite) to Ukraine, and in Crimea, they said that there were fuel for 25 days, they had been preparing for the development of this situation for a long time.
In Sevas: “The current electricity supply limit is 65 MW. Life support systems and socially significant objects are connected to backup power sources, ”- the Ministry of Emergencies.
Before the New Year, the first branch of the energy bridge should work, Novak promised, the Chinese are smart.

[sl22277]

When will gas be cut off to this under-state ?! They didn’t even deserve it for $ 500.
"..know she is strong, barks at an elephant .."

[sl22277]

The Crimean First Deputy Prime Minister Mikhail Sheremet said that after the complete cessation of electricity supplies from Ukraine, all major cities of the republic were connected to electricity. Powerful sources of energy will be sent to those regions where we have difficulties with electricity supplies, ”the Deputy Prime Minister assured. PS (That's how the dill once again crap .....).

[VeterS]

For a year and a half, we have been smacked with this Crimea, we are injecting huge financial resources, and there is no elementary life support, no. It is strange that saloids only periodically dirty Crimea. Normal, sane enemies would have completely blocked all loopholes long ago. Yes, our Crimea, but Crimeans wander the mountains for forty years, if not more. Not all of them are worthy of Russian citizenship. Although ..., buy Dima a new iPhone, maybe then something will move, at least while playing, it will not interfere with its moronity.

[Azitral]

Normal, sane enemies who declared war would be sane. In accordance with Articles 51-52 of the United Nations and good old traditions. I wouldn’t need a tank march to Kiev, I assure you.

[Proud.]

Quote: VeterS

For a year and a half, we have been smacked with this Crimea, we are injecting huge financial resources, and there is no elementary life support, no.

Elementary, just there. But who knew that they were stubbornly dull? Supposed of course, but such "civilization" ... Therefore, the energy bridge began to build, almost immediately.

[Bronik]

The whole world has risen to fight terrorism, can they strike an airstrike on the nest of bombers? Or can’t these be touched? Are they good terrorists?

[Sasha75]

In the summer, three of these cables were pulled to the Crimea, and the thermal power plants themselves were simply turned off right away, and there was a collapse, but they will do everything in XNUMX hours.

[Laksamana besar]

He also laid out this photo once, but it turned out that he was not in the context, the Chinese put other cables.

[Vadim237]

To supply the Crimea, a floating nuclear power plant of 2 GW is needed.

[VladimS]

But the northeast of dill conspicuously consumes Russian electric energy.
Chop off will be a symmetrical answer. Then we'll see who and how they sing ...
How is it going with the laying of electric cables in the Crimea, who knows? Something quite a while has not seen information on the subject.

[yuriy55]

Questions for reflection:
Are there any state-owned enterprises in the Russian Federation that are capable of not only producing and delivering such a cable to a place, but also tackling it?
How to get different "OJSCs" to do what the country needs?

In general, the laying of the cable line was planned simultaneously with the construction of a bridge across the strait ...

[Mountain shooter]

Submarine cables of this capacity are a daunting technological challenge. But it is also necessary to pull up the "branch" to the strait, and put substations, and in the Crimea, on the "other side", to organize reception, and transportation "in the opposite direction." Such a project has been done for several years, and here it has ALREADY BEEN BUILT in two years. The cable was ordered "on the side", there was no one to order it from us. Can't build technological lines to generate several tens of kilometers of cable? And new thermal power plants are being built, near Simferopol and Sevastopol. And in war - as in war. We can turn off Kharkov and Sumy. Freeze ten million people in winter. Will it make it easier for us? Crimea - definitely not.

[yuriy55]

It's time, Vladimir Vladimirovich, it's time!

The wisdom of a politician lies in foreseeing the will of his people and outstripping practical steps. What to expect next? Tell me. Continue to complain about force majeure, or, as before, in the harsh years of socialist construction, to regard all actions as sabotage and ... to punish no one?

Our Crimea. Our people live there. The state has duties and rights not to offend them, to allow them to live in peace! And ... do not care about those who interfere with this ...
Sorry, it's boiling!

[Azitral]

Also agree that ultimately, one way or another, the people decide? Even in the most brutal dictatorships? What, for example, can power do if, with external aggression, the people simply do not show heroism?

[His]

A little patience, urkain reached the handle, the pressure inside the mind rolls. The local authorities there have to relieve the pressure of war, the life time of this country works as a reverse stopwatch on the fuse. Fashington has to make just titanic efforts.

[perm23]

Sorry, I doubt it. We are already the second year we say that everything collapsed, all to smithereens. And prices are rising with us. And they live and invest more money in the army.

[perm23]

You're right . You have to protect your people. First of all, think about them. And not about the brothers. And then we just hear our brothers there. And we can raise prices for everything.

[BAT]

just deliberately went into the ear matzo and fucked. there is such jubilation among the hohlopitheks and our home-grown liberals about the de-energization of Crimea. Well, right they have a holiday. In a word - scum. And, most importantly, they rejoice, as if they were accepted to Europe ... The most natural de-b-ly and oligophrenics.

[Old26]

Quote: kartalovkolya

So the time has come to ask those who sabotaged and disrupted the laying of power lines through the Kerch Strait and ask "in full!" After all, it was promised at the highest level to solve the problem of Crimea's volatility before December 2014, and who was responsible for the "empty talk"? Isn't it time to start "thinning the beds" from the "weeds" that have penetrated the management and a good reason has appeared!

Why are you sure someone sabotaged? What is the power consumed by Crimea? Was it even possible to do this by laying the cable along the bottom ??? Or did you have to lay some cables? Someone asked a question about 100% replacement of electricity supplies from Ukraine to the Crimea, or just a reserve? Is Krasnodar Territory ready to give such an amount of electricity? These questions must first be answered.
And then immediately who is to blame, who sabotaged, almost to shoot. You still ask for the sabotage of the construction of the bridge ...

Correctly said comrade dchegrinec

Moscow was not built in a day! These Western actions will take a very long time until the Crimea is self-sufficient. And this is a huge amount of money.

Even if Syria and sanctions are not taken into account, it is technically purely impossible to do everything right away for the self-sufficiency of Crimea.
As it was in one of the phrases:
"if you put together 9 pregnant women, they still won't give birth in a month"

[yuriy55]

Was it even possible to do this by laying the cable along the bottom ??? Or did you have to lay some cables?

Currently, Russia offers cables with voltage up to 330 kV and their "turnkey" laying ...
http://yekaterinburg.all.biz/kabeli-elektricheskie-vysokovoltnye-g231809#.VlFe_j

J3bu4

[WInovikov]

We are building a railway. You can’t pull the power line in parallel? Rested on the Kerch Strait and no alternative?

[His]

The cable layer has been working for a long time.

[Darkoff]

Quote: Gormengast

that is, there is no power in Ukraine.

In Russian it is correct: "IN Ukraine".

[lewerlin53rus]

Quote: DarkOFF

In Russian it is correct: "IN Ukraine".

Yes, there is no power there.

[aleks700]

All that was needed was to create New Russia last year. And now...

[31rus]

Dear, what did you want? As soon as the conversation comes about serious actions (at least economic), the Kremlin answers Ukraine is a sovereign state, so you don’t have to be indignant, but you need to build a bridge, energy lines, railways, all infrastructure. The calculation is simple to sow discontent among the population, plus the economic effect

[yuriy55]

The people are indignant at the unlawful actions of the "independent" and weak state will (including on economic issues) against this power on the part of the Kremlin.

The calculation is simple to sow discontent among the population, plus the economic effect

Everything! Drop out! They threw "dragon teeth" into the field. Already the shoots have appeared ... Isn't it time to throw a stone in the middle of the crops?

[Old26]

By the way !! In a couple of hours, the wife will call her aunt in Yevpatoriya - closer to dinner, I will unsubscribe about the situation

[B.T.V.]

30 minutes. I called my son back to Sevastopol, since yesterday they’ve been sitting without light, but there’s no hysteria in their voice. Hold on.

[perm23]

It is good to have relatives in Yevpatoriya. How did the season go there? How did people rest there. Should I go there in the summer.

[Alex 74]

If they treat us as enemies, then we must also treat them as well.

[cormorant]

The most interesting thing is that the government will continue to supply electricity there and there will be discounts on gas, and coal will soon be shipped again. They are our brothers Slavs ... Tfu ... So I want to swear obscenities ...

[Good me]

Quote: cormorant

The most interesting thing is that the government will continue to supply electricity there and there will be discounts on gas, and coal will soon be shipped again. They are our brothers Slavs ... Tfu ... So I want to swear obscenities ...

Under the "help to brothers-Slavs", banal business schemes with the oligarch brothers there are masked ...

[izya top]

igil arranges terrorist attacks on foreign territory, and ugil on his

[Good me]

Quote: izya top

igil arranges terrorist attacks on foreign territory, and ugil on his

[populist]

It was necessary to think about the supply of Crimea and about communications in the Crimea in March-September 2014. But even now it is not too late to create a small Novorossia along the left bank of the lower reaches of the Dnieper.

[Laksamana besar]

By New Year 400 megawatts will be launched:

[yuriy55]

This is truly a balm for wounds ...

[Reserve buildbat]

The heating of provocations is growing. They climb from their skins to provoke at least a small, local action of the troops of the Russian Federation and pass it off as a full-scale offensive, and pull the troops of the nata into the territory of the dill.
And so I want to roll a couple of ampoules from this flamethrower into this crowd ... Gorgeous sedative.

[BARKHAN]

I repeat once again ... We are in a state of war with Ukraine. In any case, Ukraine is definitely waging a war with us, including a terrorist one. And we continue to "drive echelons to the enemy, like in 41". If the war is one of the the parties limits itself, then it has every chance of losing. It's time to decide. There is no longer any chance to pull the rubber and waste the opportunity. The war against ISIS terrorism is of course very important, but the nasty enemy directly at the border is unbearable.
There are two ways out. First. We like this state of things, we are masochistic, and so it will go on. More and more increasing in amplitude, because of the increasingly impudent enemy from impunity.
Second, in one sharp movement to besiege the punishers. And here, by the way, there are a lot of options ... From the point-blank elimination of terrorist leaders to a mirror response, the complete blocking of everything, including the access of Ukrainian citizens to the territory of Russia. Well, etc.
Dear friends, the detected disease is treated with all available methods and means, and not hushed up, dooming the body to irreversible consequences.

[WInovikov]

We don’t surrender ours! Now is not the 37th. And who are yours?

[BARKHAN]

But did I come up with a war of Ukrainians with us? Yes, for the last year and a half, Ukraine, according to its reports, has twice destroyed the Russian Army. And rest assured that if we continue to chew snot, then this version will be included in all European and world textbooks ... And heroically not allowing "invaders" to Europe, banderlog in European eyes are also heroes. Do not the Ukrainian people, including even schoolchildren, shout that we are at knives and gilyak. Are there any sanctions against us, both political and economic?
Or maybe I'm the only one aware that Russia has been swelling billions in them for more than twenty years. So, our Guarantor voiced this.
You can tell me that not everyone there is ... well, there were good people in fascist Germany, but there was no way to sort them. And then the elections of the ancients and greats took place ... what do we see? All the same Bandera funny faces! So it’s the people’s choice, it’s their will! And those who did not vote simply poured water on the fascist mill.
Undermining power lines is the most real terrorist attack against Russian citizens. Or, in the opinion of those who neglect the terrorist attack, is it only when your family members are being cut?
I can imagine how cowboys would have acted in our place ... I doubt that there would have been any milehlyundii ..

[perm23]

It’s not right to agree with a bandit. Any concessions are our weakness.
And then play out.

[uralex]

This is what I don’t understand: Crimea has been in Russia for two years. couldn’t it be possible in two years to create autonomous energy resources or to supply electricity through Russia? And do not negotiate with the hostile Ukrainians, with whom it is useless to negotiate, and even from whom this Crimea was overcome ...
And the fact that Ukrainians themselves are evil Pinocchio-is a fact)))

[g1v2]

To create energy supply for 2 million people on an isolated peninsula is not angry reviews on the Internet scribble. Only design and research work took almost a year. In order to bring the necessary load to the strait, it is necessary to take it from somewhere and conduct something plus the energy bridge itself. Cables for the energy bridge were found only by the Chinese. We have the required performance characteristics produced air and underground, and underwater only designed for less load. To build because of the cable, which is needed once every 50 years, is naturally stupid, so they ordered it from the Chinese in Shanghai (as far as I remember). Now the Chinese have brought the first cable and are laying it. The second phase of the bridge will be in the summer. All Crimean power plants are being modernized, 2 more have begun to be built - will be ready by 2018. The thing to do is not to scratch your tongue.

[DobryAAH]

Pull the cable into the pipe, and the problem is solved.

[AdekvatNICK]

you are so simple. One of you apparently figured out how to solve the problem, but in the government some idiots are sitting right?

[AdekvatNICK]

the censor began to "block our providers.

[sabakina]

By the way, about censor.ru ... Rostelecom claims that it doesn’t block ... Apparently, I got a drum in my system unit ...
And on the topic ... It's hard to say for sure. There are no relatives there, no acquaintances either ... I hope that all measures have been taken in Crimea, because I remember that a similar situation was worked out a year ago ...
PySy. The video is not the topic, but ...

[BOB044]

It's time to tie up with this fraternity with Ukraine. Everything must be based on business, you don’t want normal relations as neighbors. Eat your beetroot and stoke wood with a stove. Fortunately, trees still remained in Kiev. And Crimea had to be put on the Russian supply of electric energy for a long time. And in the tone of good thoughts they get into the head that someone did not imagine such a scenario, it is funny and surprising.

[stapler 2]

This will not happen under Putin, he respects the "partners" very much, and everyone, he is generally a great specialist in playing iron, they spit at him and he hisses weakly, he hasn't warmed up ...

[cergey51046]

Could not fit the power plant ships or drop the cable? What kind of disorderlessness, we agreed with Ukraine and calmed down. And to build a bridge for years, and to fill the isthmus and that’s it.

[lewerlin53rus]

Quote: cergey51046

yes to fill the isthmus and all.

And arrange an environmental disaster in the Sea of ​​Azov. Do we need this?

[mitrich]

This is where a floating nuclear power plant would come in handy! But we, as always, have nothing on time, not ready! And as they say, "a good spoon for dinner."

[Cat man null]

Quote: mitrich

That's where a floating nuclear power plant would come in handy!

Oh Lord .. where do you get these ...

Quote: mitrich

we have, as always, nothing on time, not ready!

I don’t know how it is there. AND

Quote: http://www.atomic-energy.ru/PATES

The Akademik Lomonosov floating nuclear power plant is the lead project for a series of low-power mobile transportable power units. PATES power plant has a maximum electric power of more than 70 MW and includes two KLT-40S reactor plants

Quote: http://www.atomic-energy.ru/news/2015/06/09/57519

At the moment, the construction of Akademik Lomonosov is proceeding according to the schedule, and the power unit, as planned, will be handed over to the customer - Rosenergoatom Concern (the electric power division of Rosatom State Corporation) in autumn 2016.

Only here is the problem:

- there are 100 such "Academics" to Crimea, or even a little more
- no one ever intended to build a "floating" nuclear power plant for the Crimea, other projects are being implemented there.

Quote: mitrich

as they say, "a good spoon for dinner"

Not "good", but "road" (c) Russian folk .. proverb

Voooot

[mitrich]

And they take us like that in Russia, not in America!
And with the proverb they have eaten, it’s great to see from afar, even from Democracy of Evil!

[Zaurbek]

If for 25 years they have not done anything with networks in the Crimea, then in a year there will be so many routine repairs. In general, it is not clear to me, they are selling electricity to us, not giving.

[behemot]

Yes, they are sick on the head. A normal person cannot understand them. These are mentally ill people, plus anarchy, and here is the result.

[AdekvatNICK]

Yes, what is not clear. Soon, their sale will end since the cable is coming from Russia. Therefore, to get out of the picture with a proudly raised head in front of our electorate. Ukraine will not stop deliveries in fact, but it blows up power lines like that, see how we press these Russians hard .And in fact ordinary ushlopki.

[Reinhard]

Nothing. Let the dirty tricks. Crimea will be with its own electricity!

[Yun Klob]

Ukrainian crap. However, sooner or later she will be surprised to learn that all this time she was crap on her own.

[U-96]

Quote: Yoon Klob

Ukrainian crap.

Hadya for because.

[Old26]

Quote: populist

It was necessary to think about the supply of Crimea and about communications in the Crimea in March-September 2014. But even now it is not too late to create a small Novorossia along the left bank of the lower reaches of the Dnieper.

They thought and thought. But all this is not done with the wave of a magic wand.

Quote: cergey51046

Could not fit the power plant ships or drop the cable? What kind of disorderlessness, we agreed with Ukraine and calmed down. And to build a bridge for years, and to fill the isthmus and that’s it.

A few questions:
1. Are they such power-ship ships?
2. How many are there, if any?
3. Where are they, if any?
4. What is their power?

Fill up the isthmus? Don't understand which one? Or are you going to fill up the Kerch Strait?

Quote: uralex

This is what I don’t understand: Crimea has been in Russia for two years. couldn’t it be possible in two years to create autonomous energy resources or to supply electricity through Russia? And do not negotiate with the hostile Ukrainians, with whom it is useless to negotiate, and even from whom this Crimea was overcome ...
And the fact that Ukrainians themselves are evil Pinocchio-is a fact)))

Comrade. But at least you read the previous posts. After all, they clearly explained what and how. How to create autonomous energy resources? Build a power plant in a year and a half? Or one huge one? Ensure supply through Russia - which is what is being done now. But we should not forget that both the resources of the Krasnodar Territory and the existing networks are not limitless... It is being done. But all this is not done with a snap of fingers or just a will. And there is no need to look for sabotage, betrayal or anything else in this. You know how to quickly glue labels, and almost always without understanding

Quote: Barkhan

There are two ways out. First. We like this state of affairs, we are masochists, and this will continue. Increasingly in amplitude, due to the enemy becoming more and more insolent from impunity. Second. With one sharp movement, besiege the punitive forces. And here, by the way, there are a ton of options.. From targeted elimination of terrorist leaders, to a mirror response, complete blocking of everything, including access of Ukrainian citizens to Russian territory. Well, etc.

Do we need even more, additional insulation? so if we do this, we will truly become masochists. Russia fulfills its international obligations. Showing that we are a country, a power, and not an entity 404. And look how the tone has changed towards Russia. Even those who introduced sanctions are starting to talk about lifting them.

The second option.
What you are proposing is a full-scale war with another, independent state. And it seems like you have a contradiction. On the one hand, block and disrupt everything, on the other hand, ban Ukrainians from entering Russia? Why then do we need to organize a war there? Completely ban all business. So no. We want to help the South-East, and we also want to keep the Ukrainians out. How will you divide: this is possible, but this is not...

[donavi49]

1. Are they such power-ship ships?

There are as many as 6 pieces - Northern Lights. However there are two problems:
1) All six did not survive the 90s and are in the state of a rusty, stolen barge (one SS-3 is still on trial).
2) Their power is not very high, they were built for hard-to-reach areas and places of work on a rotation basis, when there is either no power plant yet or it is impractical to build. Small villages and production sites were supposed to be supplied with power. For Crimea, all 6 are a drop in the bucket. On the other hand, they can be built into an existing network without modifications, even today.


It would be more logical to import mobile and small land-based stations (that is, the same gas turbine engines, only not on a ship platform, but mounted on sites). Those that were available to the Ministry of Emergency Situations, minus the emergency regional and federal funds, were delivered immediately. However, they did not increase much in two years.

Throwing a wire along the bottom is difficult, not so much because you need to lay out a whole main line (400 MW, like, to NG or, at the most, by spring), but also to solve a complex logistics problem. The entire supply of Crimea is tied to the north, these are networks of substations, power lines, distribution facilities throughout the peninsula. It is simply impossible to connect 400 MW to Kerch; it is necessary to build power lines, infrastructure spreading across the peninsula, and hundreds of substations.

[Valentine]

We, guys, are again breaking our spears about who is to blame for everything. USA, "crests" or....? WITH
Why did the so-called “Euromaidan” begin exactly two years ago? And since the idol and idol of Ukrainian youth Vitaliy Klitschko, seeing that his poll ratings are in
Ukraine's ratings are off the charts and exceed the ratings of the current President Yanukovych
, I decided to try to remove him from power, just a try, and nothing more.
To do this, he, with the equally popular young Crimean Tatar journalist Mustafa Nayem, were able to raise thousands of students from universities and vocational schools, and high school students. Well, they are happy, why should they study when there is another entertainment... And so it began this Euromaidan, under the slogans “Ukraine-tse Europe”, “Get out the gang”, and these were peaceful slogans for now. Then with them
emissaries and commissars from all sorts of parties began to “hang out”, but no
there were no slogans like “Ukraine over Use”, “Glory to Ukraine” and “Yak on Gilyak” at that time. It’s just that young people, who don’t know the price of a loaf of bread, or the cost of a kilogram of potatoes, decided to get rid of the thief-
president and his entourage through revolutionary transformations. But about a week later, trains from Western Ukraine began arriving in Kyiv, which were chock-full of armed with bats, fittings and chains
fighters from UNA-UNSO, VO "Svoboda" and "Right Sector"... That's where it all started - burning Khreshchatyk, burning "Berkut" soldiers, shooting of Maidan protesters and
Ministry of Internal Affairs, seizures of administrative buildings, weapons in military units, pogroms in Odessa, Mariupol, Kharkov, Lugansk, there was the departure of Crimea, and then there was, and still is, a war.... This, guys, is where the infection of nationalism and fascism came from Ukraine, and its name is GALICHINA. Yes, over 25 years of the so-called “independence” a lot of children’s minds and children’s psyches have been perverted, the truth has become false, white has become black, friends and relatives have become enemies - this is the result of the barbaric invasion of the Galicians, who have already become a nation, but not Ukrainian, but Golician, Galician, whichever you like... And all today’s provocations on the fronts, in the cities of Ukraine, on the border of Crimea are their doing. With them, we will NEVER have peace. But then how can we coexist with them, having common borders? Yes, time is wiser than us, and it will judge everyone.

[Old26]

A couple of minutes after my wife finished a telephone conversation with Evpatoria, with her aunt. The lights were turned off only at night. Now in the city, in the residential sector, there is light. So far, no one is talking about rolling blackouts. It is possible that the lights will be turned off at night, but this is not yet known.
At night there was no light not only in the houses, but also in street lighting. What will happen that night is unknown. But this woman’s daughter went to work today to finish something, and there was no light in the work areas today.

[afrikanez]

I wonder who the crests did worse to? Once again they confirmed that the country is terrorist!

[gerrt]

What country? Ukraine or Russia?

[anfil]

Peremoga? But “something is confusing”

“The lights were turned on in Crimea. Electricity is generated by gas turbine units and diesel generators. The cost of a kilowatt of electricity in this case is astronomical. The budget of the Russian Federation is rapidly flying into the Crimean pipe,” Semyon Semenchenko, a deputy from the Samopomich party and former commander of the Donbass battalion, wrote with hope on his page on the social network.

However, volunteer Roman Donik, who himself advocates for a complete blockade of Crimea, is for some reason concerned about the situation. “Something about blowing up power lines confuses him.” “First, electricity. It flows continuously. And it is also produced continuously at power plants. The process of switches cannot be stopped. And although I studied at the Polytechnic in the distant last century, I don’t remember anything about it. There were other interests. So, a unified energy system. I don’t know at all how it works, but I remember that when the network breaks, the load on the nodes that generate electricity increases. Just a minute, at the nuclear power plant. For those same nuclear power plants that are in continuous cycle, for which we are asking money from Europe to patch them up,” he commented on the incident on his Facebook page, trying to understand what so excited some of the Russian oppositionists who had come in large numbers.

“But this is not the worst thing. Surely there are some switches and fuses. And in general, just think, some kind of nuclear power plant, when now there is an opportunity for the quilted jackets to cut off the light. Then let Gunpowder (Petro Poroshenko - FBA note) deal with the nuclear power plant. He ran for president, let him plow,” Donik ironically restored the train of thought of the “patriots.”

“But a very inconspicuous incident happens. Russia reacted instantly and stopped (or is threatening to) supply coal to our thermal power plants. Oops... Unexpected. It turns out that we trade coal with our enemies. Zrada? Of course it's evil. We don’t have our own coal,” he noted, recalling that the “coal” is mainly in the Donbass.

“And now, my question is purely hypothetical. When will the power to Crimea be cut off, and Russia will stop supplying coal to Ukraine? When will Moscow Tatar activists return to their warm apartments overlooking the Kremlin? When will the temperature of the heating radiators in your homes drop by 10 degrees, when will children and sick relatives start freezing in schools and hospitals? How long do you think the Ukrainians will support all of you, power line engineers?” - the Ukrainian volunteer began to get lost in conjectures, turning to the demolition of the supports.

[nemec55]

the only problem is one of the 45 mulens, only time and the eternal 90s can re-educate them all

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Zaurbek

If nothing was done to the networks in Crimea for 25 years, then in a year there will be so many routine repairs there.

And every time the Ukrainians turn off the power, this equipment becomes even more problematic. That is, in addition to being a dirty trick on the residents, they constantly deteriorate all the equipment so that it generally fails faster.

[Arkan]

Caclosaurs are in their repertoire, blow up, turn off. Why should we tolerate such monsters in the family.

[Mountain shooter]

Eh, we didn’t have time with the cable. But they were in such a hurry. Now this crap is here to stay. The dogs will blow up the supports, not allow them to be repaired, and until we disconnect this territory 404 from everything altogether, and send Svidomo back from Russia, there will be no sense in establishing order in our country, and not taking our jobs away from us, IMHO.

[Eastern wind]

We give them restructuring - they cut off our electricity, we give them Minsk - they're hammering Donbass for us... Enough with half-measures. We need political will!

[BaLaLaykin]

Quote: fyvaprold

Quote: DEZINTO

Curious, what's the point?

I don’t know what was the meaning of this “action” by the “ancient”, but it would obviously be useful. Our power engineers, if I’m not mistaken, “swore” to lay the cable before the beginning of 2016, and now they have a unique chance to finish it early. The most "funny" thing is that after the completion of the work, Ukraine will have no reason to demand from Russia "free" kilowatts under the pretext of supplying power to Crimea. IMHO Whether it is peremoga, or zrada? Sincerely.

The first stage of the energy bridge with a capacity of about 400 MW is planned to be put into operation by December 25, 2015. The second stage with the same capacity will be completed in 2016.
from here: http://www.c-inform.info/news/id/29547

[starwars]

“Power lines were blown up again. At night, all populated areas of Crimea were left without electricity. 1,9 million people were left without electricity in Crimea. At the end of the day on Saturday, Crimean Tatar extremists attacked the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, who were trying to provide repair crews with access to those previously damaged by militants power line supports.

[ilya_oz]

It is necessary to officially announce that if there is no electricity in Crimea for 24 hours, then there will be no electricity in Ruin either - there will be enough cruise missiles at the power plant.

[Combitor]

This was to be expected and prepared for. I don’t think that the Russian leadership and the Crimean authorities have not calculated all the possible risks.
And another thing... I read the comments... How the commentators call the Ukrainians in them:
- degenerates;
- dill;
- lessons;
- hoclapithecus;
- goofy spitters;
- unicellular;
- tufted;
- poor degenerates...
The list is far from complete. Dear, where are you, on a respected website or in a dirty barn with a bottle of burnt alcohol in the company of complete drunks? I understand that there is nothing to praise our “non-brothers” for, but why sink ourselves to the level of a “single-celled idiot”? There is not a single thoughtful and judicious comment on the article, or almost none. Basically everything is at the level of the slogans “at them!” Be taller yourself.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Kombitor

There is not a single thoughtful and judicious comment on the article.

People express their opinions as best they can, and do not engage in purity, and condemning them for this or teaching them “rules of good manners” is at least unreasonable!

[Combitor]

Quote: Saratoga833

People express their opinions as best they can,

That’s right, you need to be able to express your opinion, especially on the pages of a site that is read by many people. But turning the site into a booth, like “Censor”, where the public that is found there does not skimp on expressions, is also not the case. And I’m not going to teach anyone the rules of good manners. Especially you. As can be seen from your comment, this is extremely useless, you won’t understand anyway, only time with you will be wasted.

[thinker]

MORONS B... THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY ABOUT THE BLOWING OF ELECTRIC POWERS IN THE KHERSON REGION

This is a headline from a Ukrainian site!
http://tt.inf.ua/debily-b-tem-kto-rad-podryvu-elektroopor-v-hersonskoj-oblasti

[provincial]

“According to the head of the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation, Alexander Novak, Crimea will become energy independent from Ukraine after the commissioning of an energy bridge from the Krasnodar Territory; the project will be commissioned by the end of the year.” The only question is WHAT?

[Proud.]

Quote: provincial

The only question is WHAT?

That.

[provincial]

Well, what are we going to see?

[Stauffenberg]

Something needs to be done about Jamil's gang. This bug must understand that the consequences of screwing up Russia for him and his accomplices will be tragic. This will be a lesson for others too.

[gunya]

What to do?
Revive "Sudoplatov's organization" and give the command to "work."
With the current level of knowledge, the results would appear in a month.

[Alexandr2637]

So what, this time they won’t break off all diplomatic relations with the fascist bunch on the outskirts and COMPLETELY cut off the gas supply? (for starters). Well, as for debt, there should be no compromises....

[oof]

As the president said, find and neutralize all this husk. Hey, special services, it's time to go to the toilet, this is a terrorist attack.

[iouris]

A great power cannot help but issue ultimatum demands to the Kyiv regime: restoration of water and electricity supplies within 24 hours. Otherwise, Kyiv must open access to units of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation to restore power lines with subsequent payment of the costs incurred. Because from the point of view of international law, such actions as cutting off water in a canal and cutting off electricity are an act of aggression.
The West and Türkiye stand behind the performers. The sabotage and the timing of it indicate that Daesh and the Kyiv puppets are branches of the same organization. This is a stab in the back, or rather sabotage in the rear during the war. France, as a participant in the anti-terrorist operation in the B.East that has joined the Russian Federation, i.e. an ally, must make a decision. I believe that one of the main objectives of the terrorist attack in Mali was the destruction of the Russian crew of the An-124, which works under a contract with the UN. And Mali is a zone of influence of France.

[Strezhevchanin]

When? When will these sons of the revolution crush each other and the country will begin to live normally!? It’s sickening to look at these ghouls, isn’t it clear what kind of “people” these are, this is the same domestic mother of his ISIS.
Kitchen igil, to tears!!!

[Stauffenberg]

Turkish intelligence services have clearly become more active. Jamil is on their side

[andrew-z]

Quote: Stauffenberg

A great power cannot help but issue ultimatum demands to the Kyiv regime: restoration of water and electricity supplies within 24 hours.

on what basis?

[Azitral]

The deliberate destruction of communications is an official act of aggression. I understand that de jure, in the opinion of the “international community,” Crimea is not ours, and they have the right to undermine any supports on their territory, but... I don’t know why, but I think this dirty trick will be settled sufficiently fast.

[U-96]

Quote: andrew-z

on what basis?

So, it seems, 40% of consumers in Kherson and Nikolaevskaya are also without power. So, at least, xoxlosites wrote, the same UNIAN. I’m just wondering - do the xoxlovs living there have no desire to give lyulya to the Tatarva and other signed up husks? Or is this not practiced in the Land of Frostbitten Ears out of spite?

[iouris]

Let domestic consumers turn to Pshonka or sue on the basis of energy supply contracts.
And for aggressive actions against the Russian Federation, claims should be made under Art. 51 of the UN Charter (if I'm not confused). This is the article on the basis of which the air operation in Syria is being carried out.

[Valevampo]

I once studied to be a cable engineer and I remember that in 2 months Kamkabel fulfilled an order from Egypt for the supply of armored cables for laying it along the bottom of the Suez Canal. The Egyptians immediately laid a high-voltage armored cable and paid for the supply. Two of my fellow students helped with the design and said that the cable laying was almost as simple as wheels. Why we have been dragging an underwater power line to Crimea for more than a year is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand more unclear to me

[gunya]

This was in Soviet times and in serious cases there was complete A RESPONSIBILITY, now it’s a “market”, but there is little order in the market.

[v.yegorov]

Quote: g1v2

This act is enough to declare the Majlis a terrorist organization and ban everything connected with it.

Plus, stop supplies of electricity from the Russian Federation until supplies from Ukraine to Crimea are resumed.

[drago36]

turn off the gas and let the 3.14 blow for firewood.

[35lisment35]

It’s not an ordinary Ukrainian brother who is shutting down, but the fascist government... gentlemen, don’t forget this!

[chunga-changa]

How will Putin respond? Will he forgive all gas debts?

[WInovikov]

And what do you think? I think he will forgive and come up with some kind of discount: on electricity, on gas, on coal.

[DobryAAH]

Everything is the same on Censor. They react violently to Aksenov’s request not to turn on the electric heaters.

Dzhemilev is shitting.

Deputies Logvinsky and Dzhemilev demand to terminate the contract for the supply of electricity to the “occupied” Crimea

[16112014nk]

The Turks in the same 1974 brought water supply and electrical cables from Turkey to the territory of Northern Cyprus. The distance is approximately 100 km. It is about 1,5 km to Crimea across the strait. Nothing has been done in 1,5 years. Can't or don't want to? I doubt they can't. This means sabotage and sabotage. Then the question is - who is to blame and where are the landings?

[chunga-changa]

What kind of landings, there will most likely be awards here. For the new year - "For services to the fatherland." The best in the world are laurel, rogozin and naebulina.

[Jurkovs]

In Ukraine there is not enough electricity in the northern regions, in Kharkov and Sumy. They have been supplied with electricity from Russia since the times of the USSR. After the annexation of Crimea to Russia, Kyiv immediately wanted to cut off power to the peninsula, but Russia said that it would then stop providing electricity. energy to the northern regions and Ukraine calmed down. Maybe it's time to carry out this threat.

[SPIKER]

Unfortunately, we have a huge, almost 40 million-strong, shit geyser nearby!!! And it will continue to gush for a long time, despite the “improvement of the situation” in this wild territory!!! I hope that the Crimeans know this and will react to "temporary inconveniences" with understanding!!! The "highest quality" have screwed up with water, they've screwed up with the food blockade and they're taking care of the energy blockade!!! Crimea will survive, it can't be otherwise!!! Of course, we need to "get involved" with such "neighbors" and "tie" in all directions!!!

[bpa1949]

Quote: DEZINTO

Degenerates !.

Curious, what's the point? According to their plan, the Crimeans should immediately appear, apologize that they did not voluntarily eat glass, and ask them to return to "ETU" Ukraine?

In the dying torment, the bodies tremble.

[Alex1977RUS]

Quote: 16112014nk

The Turks in the same 1974 brought water supply and electrical cables from Turkey to the territory of Northern Cyprus. The distance is approximately 100 km. It is about 1,5 km to Crimea across the strait. Nothing has been done in 1,5 years. Can't or don't want to? I doubt they can't. This means sabotage and sabotage. Then the question is - who is to blame and where are the landings?

Here are several posts already above about the same thing. There is nowhere to connect, right away. At one time there was a unified energy system that took decades to create; electricity was distributed across hundreds of substations and thousands of kilometers of high-voltage power lines. These are megawatts and gigawatts, not kilowatts in your apartment. This is a very complex system that you can’t just crash into anywhere, because 16112014nk wanted it that way. The laws of physics cannot be abolished even by the Darkest.
This is not a temporary scam from a neighbor.

[Nymp]

Well, did you cut the wires, did you feel better? Or did you seriously decide in this way to return the Crimean people’s love for independence?

[stapler 2]

Quote: DEZINTO

A typical trick for dill

a trick is not a trick, and if our vaunted leaders of the state continue to chew snot, then in Crimea they will be very disappointed in our great state, where is the cable? I wonder, how did they yell - six months, six months,
dill, as soon as the Rivne block was introduced the next day, they stopped depending on our energy - get it...
THE GAME IS CALLED IRON, They spit on Putin (and on you and me), and we should hiss, but we don’t even hiss, and so we pretend to be hoses, how come our partners won’t understand.. the leadership is rubbish. Bye

[sevsor]

Unhappy Ukraine...the percentage of the defective population is steadily growing, Banderlogs are actively developing the dill space, turning the population into dill. To confirm my words, it’s enough to look at the enthusiastic comments addressed to the “patriots” on ukrosites to be convinced of the truth of my words))) It’s necessary to reason like this - “the more we spoil the population of Crimea, the more their desire to return under the wing will increase crazy Nenka"))) Oho-ho! Truly a country of unafraid idiots!)) Indeed, we are having problems with electricity for the second day, but for some reason completely different thoughts and words (obscene) come to mind when hearing the word “Ukraine”, but not about returning to this savage non-country))

[padded jacket]

The Kiev regime, which is in power under the command of the United States, the EU, and Israel, will by its nature be anti-Russian and it does not matter who it will be headed by Poroshenko or another.
Until Ukraine’s sponsors change, it will continue to cultivate and praise fascists and nationalists and threaten our country and even its own people who disagree with this policy.

[Vyacheslav 1359]

Fine...
Ukraine wants RUSSIA to quickly switch to direct supplies of electricity.
Here she needs to meet halfway...

[stas74]

oh well, pouring from empty to empty. Knowing that blackouts began in 2014, ours, instead of developing a plan for an energy bridge with the replacement of existing capacities, began to do what they loved - kickbacks. I read somewhere that the managers there were still Ukrainian, they wanted to enter the tender of the enterprise It didn’t work out from Tagil. To Sochi they pulled a cable across the sea for 40 km, but here they can’t master 2 km in 7 years. In the old days, under Comrade Stalin, something would have been punished long ago for such progress.

[Cat man null]

Quote: stas74

We know that blackouts began in 2014

The only correct phrase...

Quote: stas74

instead of developing a plan for an energy bridge with the replacement of existing capacities, they began to do what they loved - kickbacks

The energy bridge plan has been developed and is being implemented. By the New Year there will be the first phase, in 2016 - the second. And the problem, somehow, will be resolved..

Quote: stas74

I read it somewhere..

On the fence obviously

Quote: stas74

.Before Sochi they ran a 40 km cable across the sea, but here they can’t master 2 km in 7 years

"The Chukchi is not a reader, the Chukchi is a writer." This is because we don’t read comments, it’s beneath our dignity, I guess. And we are banned from Google... But we have our own point of view

It has been stated a hundred times above that the issue is not only and not so much in the cable itself. Electricity from the cable must be received and distributed to consumers, and these are new power lines, substations, etc.

By the way, the cable itself there is also not easy, and there is an earthquake-prone zone, well, and a lot of other funny things.

Something like that.

[tomcat117]

Crimea was left without electricity

Where the construction of floating nuclear power plants, announced many years ago, would be welcome.
As always, until the cock pecks in the ass.

[Dry_T-50]

@
Your girl left you
@
Do you want her back
@
You threaten to beat her up if she comes back
@
She's not coming back


This is how we should understand the situation with Crimea.
P.S. This is my first time trying buhurts, please don’t downvote.

[IAlex]

And to hell with them, they will reconnect until December, the Chinese will already lay the cable there...
And all their fun will end with the construction of Nord Stream 2, because no one will support a 40 million Khokhlostan for the poor services of Khokhlostan...

[onix757]

Crimeans, don’t worry, now they’ll scold dill again on the forum and everything will work out

[Cat man null]

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

Quote: vorobey

"Laying the cable is not a very long process. The main problem is the special submarine cable itself, which is not produced in the Russian Federation. The key point that is delaying us is still making the cable under international pressure," the minister explained.

It is interesting to know what is still produced in the Russian Federation?

There is a lot that is being produced...

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

what kind of “superpower” is this that does not produce cables and this “superpower” constantly refers to some kind of “leftist” sanctions...

This cable is needed once every hundred years. Therefore, it is produced by very special companies, which then sell it all over the world. And it is right. You didn’t assemble your computer atom by atom in the kitchen, but bought it in a store? Same thing with the cable

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

what will happen if real sanctions are introduced against the Russian Federation, i.e. sanctions are not against a group of snickering officials and oligarchs close to the “court”,

Um ..

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

and, for example, sanctions regarding the oil and gas sector, oil refining, defense industry, an absolutely dependent financial system...

Kakbe against the defense industry-oil industry-fin. The sanctions systems have long been introduced.. Have you been sleeping for a long time and just woke up? So at least don't write nonsense...

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

And for all questions, fairy tales about smelly parmizan and import substitution ...

- import substitution “at the behest of a pike” in a week-month-year does not happen, it is a long and very painful process
- “Parmesan” - it’s not smelly at all... cheese is like cheese... and it’s spelled with an “e”, by the way

[U-96]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

and, for example, sanctions regarding the oil and gas sector, oil refining, defense industry, an absolutely dependent financial system...

Kakbe against the defense industry-oil industry-fin. The sanctions systems have long been introduced.. Have you been sleeping for a long time and just woke up? So at least don't write nonsense...

people are still sure that the sanctions are only against Matvienko and jamon. Under the table...

[orphan 63]

See all the latest information on Crimea and electricity supplies here:

Crimea News - http://news.allcrimea.net/

Online power supply - http://br.so-ups.ru/Public/MainPage.aspx

+
The Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation is studying the issue of supplying additional power capacity to Crimea
http://ria.ru/economy/20151122/1326222889.html

[wicked pinnochio]

Why doesn’t Rosatom build a couple of nuclear power plants in Crimea, at least there will be light?

[U-96]

Quote: wicked pinnochio

Why doesn’t Rosatom build a couple of nuclear power plants in Crimea, at least there will be light?

Read the history of the Crimean nuclear power plant. “This project was not considered at all. Taking into account availability in Crimea oil and gas This is hardly the most rational solution. I am a supporter of nuclear energy, but not a fanatic. I believe that there should always be a common sense approach. Nuclear energy is not a panacea for all ills” (c) - Kiriyenko on this matter.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Angry Pinnochio

Why doesn’t Rosatom build at least a couple of nuclear power plants in Crimea?

In one night... from cubes, obviously.

The Sevastopol and Simferopol thermal power plants are already under construction in Crimea. Not nuclear power plants, but thermal ones. The commissioning of the first stage was planned for September 2017.

Quote: Angry Pinnochio

why Rosatom don't build...

And, yes - who is “rosy”?

[Old26]

Quote: ilya_oz

It is necessary to officially announce that if there is no electricity in Crimea for 24 hours, then there will be no electricity in Ruin either - there will be enough cruise missiles at the power plant.

Thank God that you are not the President of Russia or even his adviser. With such advisers, or rather with advisers, Russia would already be at war with the whole world. I wanted to fight - go ahead, volunteer. At least to Donbass, at least against ISIS

Quote: tomcat117

Crimea was left without electricity

Where the construction of floating nuclear power plants, announced many years ago, would be welcome.
As always, until the cock pecks in the ass.

Well, the first floating vessel is already being completed. BUT how do you get around the ban on ships with nuclear reactors entering the Black Sea? After all, even during the Olympics, “Peter” was not able to enter the Black Sea and solved problems from afar, from the Aegean. And what will one station do?

Quote: Alexandr2637

So what, this time they won’t break off all diplomatic relations with the fascist bunch on the outskirts and COMPLETELY cut off the gas supply? (for starters). Well, as for debt, there should be no compromises....

If diplomatic relations are not severed, this will not happen. Maximum - the ambassador can be recalled “For consultation”. And the gas won't be shut off. You are penalizing the West for something other than short supply, behind non-delivery Are you willing to pay for gas out of your own pocket??? Alas, until the second stage of the joint venture is in operation, we WE WILL BE FORCED TO ENDURE ALL FRICKS Ukraine

Quote: provincial

“According to the head of the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation, Alexander Novak, Crimea will become energy independent from Ukraine after the commissioning of an energy bridge from the Krasnodar Territory; the project will be commissioned by the end of the year.” The only question is WHAT?

The first stage is until the end of 2015, the second - in 2016.
According to the vice-president of Crimea (or whoever they have), the morning maximum at the temperature as it is now is 800 MW. Crimea itself generates 350 MW. That is, a deficit of 450 MW. The first stage is 400 MW. After the commissioning of the second stage, the transfer of electricity to Crimea will be about 850 MW. That is, with a fairly large margin

[gerrt]

a virtual bridge to Crimea has already been “built”, now there will be a virtual energy bridge

[bubla5]

Ours still hope that the zombified, or maybe just an ideological nation will overthrow its rulers, it’s not a bad idea to wait, dismantle and turn over all gas and oil pipelines for metal, anyway, they long ago took away the refineries that ours modernized for themselves, dismantle all power lines, stop supplying everything factories with components or close the border to silence for everything, and not chew snot

[gerrt]

I support - he'll fence himself off from Ukraine with a ditch and close all checkpoints; goods from the EU will go through Belarus!

[mamont5]

Quote: GRAY

We cannot, we have a contract.

So they themselves refused Russian supplies. request

Now the Russian response has arrived. To start...
"Russia has stopped supplying coal to Ukraine: the operation of 7 power plants is under threat

Russia has stopped shipping anthracite coal to Ukraine due to restrictions on electricity supplies to Crimea, said member of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, the so-called “leader” of the Crimean Tatars Mustafa Dzhemilev after a meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.

“I’ll tell you frankly - we talked about this with the President - that a very difficult situation has arisen. Due to the power outage, Russia has now already stopped supplies of anthracite, which means that the work of seven power plants in Ukraine will be paralyzed,” Left Bank quotes Dzhemilev "
http://x-true.info/28536-rossiya-prekratila-postavki-uglya-ukraine-pod-ugrozoy-r

abota-7-elektrostanciy.html

[Flatter]

Power plants have a significant emergency reserve of fuel, so they will run without problems. But what prevents the Russian Federation from billing for losses associated with the shutdown of Crimea? The amounts may not be one million. The Russian government, in relation to Ukraine, is neither fish nor fish. meat.