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Decree of the President of Ukraine on the abolition of military valor

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In particular, Poroshenko this document (Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 646 / 2015 on the introduction of the law to the Decree of the President of Ukraine on the 30 of the 2000 Zhovtnya Rock No. 1173) made changes to the list of military units, institutions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Guard of Ukraine, government communications centers of the State Service for Special Communications and Information Protection of Ukraine, the State Border Service of Ukraine and units of the State Special Transport Service, higher military educational institutions and organizations that will keep previously assigned honorary names and the names of which are specified, excluding from the official honorary names of military units Identification Soviet orders (Kutuzov Order, Order of the Red Banner, the Order of the Red Star, Order of the October Revolution, Order of Suvorov, the Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky and so on.).


Everyone who once served in the units located on the territory of Ukraine will probably be interested to get acquainted with this list. From myself I can say that I feel feelings of bitterness and shame for the ungrateful descendants of the soldiers who, through their heroism and blood, managed to earn these abolished titles and orders.

Decree of the President of Ukraine on the abolition of military valor









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http://www.president.gov.ua/documents/6462015-19568
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 November 2015 04: 47
    60
    Ordinary evening of the President of Ukraine:

    1. spech
      spech 22 November 2015 04: 56
      13
      Only it's not evening, it's morning wassat
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 22 November 2015 05: 20
        12
        Well, could you expect ANOTHERLY something else from drunkards of Ukraine Petyuni Valtsmana and the HEAD of them Pentagon?!
        1. Very old
          Very old 22 November 2015 08: 05
          21
          All for the better - well, what valor in the APU? And he managed to cancel the nonexistent

          And live him without HONOR, CONSCIENCE, VALUE

          High qualities are not available to him.
          1. Good me
            Good me 22 November 2015 10: 18
            +5
            Quote: Very old
            All for the better - well, what valor in the APU?

            Support.

            Otherwise, it sounds ... Well imagine am : "En-sky, Orenov Kutuzova, Bogdana Khmelnitsky, Red Banner Guards Regiment, distinguished himself in a punitive operation ..."
      2. Duke
        Duke 22 November 2015 06: 59
        22
        People without memory, people without a future.

        Military valor is a selfless manifestation of high moral and combat qualities, expressed in the impeccable performance by military personnel of their duty to the Fatherland in peaceful and military conditions.
        1. Aleksander
          Aleksander 22 November 2015 07: 50
          28
          The banners and orders of units from them would be taken to Russia, to preserve the memory of worthy soldiers of these formations ...
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 November 2015 08: 17
            +6
            Aleksander (1)
            The banners and orders of units from them would be taken to Russia, to preserve the memory of worthy soldiers of these formations ...

            Great thought, Aleksander!
            Only now, the Pentagon will not allow it to its Waltzman geopolitically!
            The Pentagon reshapes the APU under NATO - i.e. for yourself. And the Pentagon can not preserve the memory of Russian military prowess in Ukraine!
            The Pentagon has a plan - with Russia WAR!
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          3. Serg koma
            Serg koma 22 November 2015 14: 12
            +2
            Yesterday, the banner of the unit (+ order) was on guard of honor - today it will be on EBE (words are not obscene - eBay online store) belay
            Selling something more NOTHING! And Conscience, Honor and MEMORY have long changed the LGBT community ...
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 22 November 2015 07: 59
          +3
          the badge of the Russian guard still needs to be deserved .. I’m not a guardsman (they determined us by this familiarity, and by the chevron ---- if there is no bear, you’re spy), it means from the German brigade, the Kantemirovs are funny teddy bears, I loved them and covered
        3. GRAY
          GRAY 22 November 2015 08: 06
          +5
          Quote: Duke
          People without memory, people without a future.


          The National Guard, it turns out, was created on the basis of the guard - did not know, cognitively.
          It would be necessary to take away trousers and berets from Ukrainian airmobile forces, and those who dare to shine with the flag of the airborne forces should be declared divisions and imprisoned for 15 years.
        4. veksha50
          veksha50 22 November 2015 10: 26
          +1
          Quote: Duke
          People without memory, people without a future.



          Duke, they left the name "guards" !!!
        5. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 22 November 2015 10: 40
          +6
          Quote: Duke
          People without memory

          And they don't remember at all that the word "Guard" came to the Ukrainian army from the Russian Empire and from the USSR.
          Based on the above, I recommend that dill refuse to use the word "Guard" as a legacy of the Russian Empire and as a Soviet legacy! On Urkain, as such, the guard never existed!
          1. Russia
            Russia 22 November 2015 20: 17
            +1
            They have a revolution of "guidnosti", so let them rename the "guards" in "Gidney" or "Gidnos" units on this wave!
      3. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 07: 58
        0
        Or maybe noon or maybe evening or maybe night ....
        1. Serg koma
          Serg koma 22 November 2015 14: 15
          0
          "Midnight is approaching and there are still no Squirrels ..." laughing
      4. The lead
        The lead 22 November 2015 08: 12
        14
        The article does not fully cover the event, instead of Soviet orders in Ukraine, Svidomo analogs will be introduced. The Order of Poroshenko will be introduced to replace the Order of Kutuzov with the image of his physiognomy and the inscriptions "Ilovaisk and Debaltsevo-victory and courage". The Order of the Red Banner will be replaced by the Order of the Trident with its display against the background of the swastika, which is a symbol of the sun. The Order of the Red Star will be replaced by the Order of Lyashko, which will depict Lyashko standing on all fours (his usual posture). The Order of the October Revolution will, of course, be replaced by the Order of the Maidan, with a detailed image of all who took part in it who joyfully trample under their feet the statue of Motherland Mother, which, as you know, stands in Volgograd. While there is no information how much it will weigh and what size this order will be. It has not been decided only in Ukraine which order will replace the Order of Suvorov, because there are a lot of magnificent commanders, one more beautiful But with regard to the Order of Bohdan Khmelnitsky in Ukraine, complete unanimity, his deputy They are married to the Order of Bandera, in which he will be depicted wearing a military (which is now relevant), European (very important), German uniform from the times of the 40s.
        1. sssla
          sssla 22 November 2015 09: 11
          +3
          Quote: Lead
          The article does not fully cover the event,

          Much of what has been indicated has already been renamed for about 15 years, so nothing new and no event! It’s just that Petrik needs to remind local patriots of himself that he is the president, however!
      5. Sirocco
        Sirocco 22 November 2015 08: 47
        +5
        Quote: spech
        Only it's not evening, it's morning

        I suppose that everything looks a bit wrong, because you can’t imagine such a thing when drunk, there, the bubble was flooded and out. And in the morning you are looking for an apokhmel. laughing
        It’s much more serious here, it’s likely that Petya, that Senya, after eating cookies, run in a jerk with constipation, puff, puff, and it is likely that they puff up, contrary to nature, that is, it affects the brain if it is there.
        Judging by the latest events with the undermining of power lines, then this is from the series, knock, I will open it myself. Something like this.
        Well, if on the topic, then all this is not for long, I mean renaming, the authorities are impostors, temporarily. I hope normal politicians will come, and everything will fall into place.
        I wonder why not name Battalion "Azov" Detachment named after J. McCain?
      6. 79807420129
        79807420129 22 November 2015 08: 53
        14
        Well, this speaks of the abomination of dill and petunia and other corrupt husks that sold for the American cookies the memory of their fathers and grandfathers who fought against fascism, my God and the abomination of all these wretched petuni rabbits are corpse, the sooner they die, the better.
      7. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 22 November 2015 10: 03
        0
        Quote: spech
        Only it's not evening, it's morning

        It's not evening or morning - it's 24 \ 7 wassat
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    3. shalim
      shalim 22 November 2015 05: 43
      13
      good morning everyone...
      but what about the light in CRIMEA?
      "... The last two power transmission towers were blown up, along which electricity was flowing. Soon it was possible to partially resume the supply of large cities ..."
      On the night of November 22, all the cities and towns of Crimea were left without electricity. "
      resembles the situation at school: the eternal C grade student, conditional Vitya, who is covered in snot all the time, decided to remind of himself, having torn off the tap in the toilet ... the whole school tolerates him, everyone knows: eighth grade, April month, little is left (to endure) .. . and then this miracle declares - "I will go to the ninth". the whole school is in shock, but nevertheless, after talking with the class teacher, this type announces to everyone that he decided to finish eight, and then in vocational school - A BREATH OF FACILITATION AT SCHOOL, even technician aunt Klava - glad ...
      so the Ukrainians are doing the same thing now, but ...
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 22 November 2015 08: 12
        +6
        Quote: shalim
        On the night of November 22, all the cities and towns of Crimea were left without electricity. "

        In the Kherson region, armed special forces surrounded the participants of the blockade of Crimea, who are protesting against the repair of damaged power lines (power lines) that supply electricity to the peninsula.



        http://strajj.livejournal.com/
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 22 November 2015 06: 16
      25
      And here we have fun too and the tanks were deployed in battle formations and Grad worked in 04630 twice ...

      A mouse click and the image will increase.
      1. shalim
        shalim 22 November 2015 07: 33
        +2
        A mouse click and the image will increase.

        +5 ... sprouted)))
    5. Patriot 1
      Patriot 1 22 November 2015 08: 29
      +5
      In the last column, they forgot to add in the names of the units - "the name of Stepan Bandera"
      1. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 22 November 2015 12: 22
        +9
        Quote: Patriot 1
        In the last column, they forgot to add in the names of the units - "the name of Stepan Bandera"

        Of course, why do they need the names of Suvorov, Alexander Nevsky? I think it's even good that these scoundrels, who were transported in Russian blood in the Donbass, no longer bear the names of the famous Russian commanders. They themselves established justice. The only wrong (in my opinion) renaming is the 406th district military hospital into a clinical center. I would suggest them such a new name: "100500th Illovaisko-Izvaransky Debaltsevsky All-Ukropsky Orders of Judas Iscariot, Bandera, Mazepa and the Devil of the Bald."

        Surgical Clinical Zbroyny named after the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Presidential Dispensary (abbreviated as "100500 VseUkropsky PND" military unit 27632125).
  2. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 22 November 2015 04: 52
    +2
    Apotheosis ,, drank up -
    Delirium tremens (alcohol delirium) is a severe alcoholic psychosis, usually appears a few days after the end of a multi-day binge ... am
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 November 2015 04: 56
    +9
    Since yesterday, there have been reports of a power line break in the Crimea -

    Svidomnomu head no peace ....





    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 22 November 2015 05: 36
      14
      The adequacy of the famous person in the bottom photo had to be supported by the phrase:
      "Morons, f *** ing!"

      It's time to stop perceiving the madhouse in the "next apartment" as something permanent and inevitable. To strictly suppress all attempts to encroach on Russian statehood. And there were plenty of these jesters under the kings at any time.
      IMHO: these, in the video, do not know how to do anything and do not want to work ...
      hi
  4. WYCCTPUJIA
    WYCCTPUJIA 22 November 2015 05: 00
    +8
    They are not even satisfied with the "Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky", "Budapest" and these shout that "Mi e Europe !!!" wassat
    "It is a sin to laugh at sick people." crying
    1. Riv
      Riv 22 November 2015 05: 35
      24
      So maybe it's for the best? It’s not good for fascists to wear OUR orders. They have lost this right. Galloped.
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 06: 24
        +2
        Similarly, it would have been necessary to deprive. And here for yourself.
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 22 November 2015 08: 56
        +2
        Quote: Riv
        So maybe it's for the best? It’s not good for fascists to wear OUR orders. They have lost this right. Galloped.

        The most amazing thing is that the Egyptian army, seeing what Mursi wanted to create, overthrew him, and took power into their own hands. Thus, they saved the country. And this is not the army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, these are clowns, jesters peas, mummers with medals. What are they fascists (Army APU)? Is it an army, without a sense of pride, without dignity, without memory of its ancestors. Spineless henchmen of the National Bats.
        I hope this does not last long, should patience burst among the people? Or did the people become out of politics?
    2. Shiva83483
      Shiva83483 22 November 2015 06: 34
      +1
      So it is sinful over the sick, but these ... well, you understand ...
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 08: 02
        +2
        Quote: Shiva83483
        So it is sinful over the sick, but these ... well, you understand ...

        Are they healthy?
        Delusions of grandeur (delusions of grandeur, megalomania) - a mental illness characterized by a violation of self-identity or personality behavior and manifested in a reassessment of its importance, fame, popularity, wealth, power, political influence, etc.
  5. MDesant
    MDesant 22 November 2015 05: 13
    23
    Ukraine has joined the EU. Sit two kuma crest drink.
    One asks:
    - Well sho? Yak Tab EU?
    The second says:
    - Yes, this EU’s garbage - I’m unemployed, my wife in Italy washes toilets, my son married a German, my daughter is a prostitute in Holland !!!
    And the oaths are blamed for everything !!!!
    They told us: "Do not join the EU, do not join the EU !!!" They knew the paddlers, sho we are spiteful!
  6. verb
    verb 22 November 2015 05: 13
    +2
    You read the list, you think that they really have an WHOLE army there.
    250 000 rabble! No matter how you sit-in, you’re not good at soldiers! No matter how you call it, there will not be any stronger. Paralysis of the upper brain is an incurable disease. Only amputation will help. Well, at worst and for speed, a bullet to the head.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 22 November 2015 10: 54
      +1
      Quote: verb
      Cerebral palsy is an incurable disease

      and all this because of the rupture of the embroidery of the brain.
  7. Koshak
    Koshak 22 November 2015 05: 14
    +4
    Instead of a storage base - a recycling center ... that's their essence fool The medals were not deserved - that's understandable. And what would Korolev, Kozhedub, Pokryshkin say to these .... figures ... from a decent one I have only "aylybed, ydalb" am

    Great people would use professional skills - "bam, bam, bam - to the point!"

    PS: emphasizes the names Kozhedub, Pokryshkin - not an editor, but some kind of pest negative
    1. Serg koma
      Serg koma 22 November 2015 14: 27
      +2
      Quote: Koshak
      emphasizes the names of Kozhedub, Pokryshkin - not an editor, but some kind of pest

      Add to dictionary! This is not a "pest", but OUR "zaslanets" wink
  8. sl22277
    sl22277 22 November 2015 05: 14
    +8
    Well, what do you want, with this prostitute country, which have no honor or conscience and do not remember the good. With the President Alcoholic. During the USSR, they fed on him. As it broke up - they climbed to the other side to lick faster, if only they would give a cookie. Neither my own policy, nor my own dignity. I think the order of Stepan Bandera is just right to introduce. He did absolutely nothing good for Ukraine, but only flooded it with blood. Being a national "hero", still existing, at someone else's expense, the country of Dill ...
  9. Andrea
    Andrea 22 November 2015 05: 16
    +7
    Combat banners, too, in the trash? Why is it so shame it is better to disband and deal with the end.
    This, by the way, is about military honor, although ... what am I talking about.
  10. tommy717
    tommy717 22 November 2015 05: 17
    19
    For once, I can support the parasite from the country of 404. Well, the military units that swore allegiance to the junta, who betrayed the memory of the victors in the Second World War with honorary titles, are not worthy. I was terrified, as the gunners from the Kutuzov regiment, for example, could smash the houses of civilians in New Russia to dust. And so they themselves renounced the glory of their ancestors. Since there is no honor, no conscience, no dignity of true warriors. Something like this.
  11. Just BB
    Just BB 22 November 2015 05: 18
    13
    And yet how "won" love "stripes" - if they are against military valor - then remove the rank "guards" from the names of their structures, because the honorary title "Guard" was awarded for the glorious deeds in the Great Patriotic War - so be consistent to the end.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 06: 29
      +3
      Quote: Just VV
      And yet how "won" love "stripes" - if they are against military valor - then remove the rank "guards" from the names of their structures, because the honorary title "Guard" was awarded for the glorious deeds in the Great Patriotic War - so be consistent to the end.

      They will probably give "guards" ranks for the boilers. And how good it sounds. Such is the "Guards" regiment of the Order of the Debaltsevo Cauldron.
  12. Militia
    Militia 22 November 2015 05: 19
    +4
    Fools come to power and leave. And human memory will always live. It remains only to wait. Well, then, the people will restore justice. History has always put everything in its proper place. You can’t argue against history.
  13. Same lech
    Same lech 22 November 2015 05: 19
    +4
    From myself, I can say that I feel feelings of bitterness and shame for the ungrateful descendants of the soldiers who managed to earn these abolished ranks and orders with their heroism and blood.


    From myself, I can say that I have feelings of contempt and abomination towards the KIEV REGIME.
  14. Fight cat
    Fight cat 22 November 2015 05: 20
    -5
    impressive list! it feels right away, seriously got down to business, getting rid of all communist signs !!!
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 07: 23
      +4
      B. Khmelnitsky can you tell me what year he joined the RSDLP (b)? And also M. Kutuzov and A. Suvorov forgot. And A. Nevsky.
      1. Fight cat
        Fight cat 22 November 2015 18: 50
        +1
        what do I have to do with it??? They get rid of communist signs, the rest are just "" for Ukrainians, and Bogdan Khmelnytsky is probably a traitor for them, since they made Mazepa a hero! request
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 20: 41
          +2
          Yes, it wasn’t B. Khmelnitsky, just like M. Kutuzov, A Suvorov (not to be confused with a rezun), and Nevsky communists. Before you write, think about what you write. They deny their Russian past, deny the Russian people. So you and Ushakova with Nakhimov write in the Communists, there are orders of their name.
    2. anfil
      anfil 22 November 2015 13: 50
      +4
      The flaw came out, you have to make an addition to the decree, rename it again.


      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 20: 53
        +2
        Come on Sevastopol. They will write 204 Sevastopol (in occupation) tactical aviation brigade. As they missed A. Pokryshkin, he was a member of the CPSU (B), and of course the CPSU, Marshal of the Soviet Union, three times Hero of the Soviet Union. Beat in the air Bandera's ideological friends. The mess. Overlooked
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 November 2015 05: 22
    +4
    The apotheosis will be the demolition of the monument Motherland in Kuev.
    And I feel that waiting for this is not long.
    By the way, when Russia will cut off the light to Ukraine
    in response to the cessation of light supplies to the Crimea?
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 22 November 2015 08: 38
      +5
      Never ... They will lick an ass until the blue face ... Also, energy prices will be thrown back. So for two years now - only cheeks are pouting. belay With all the advantages of the GUARANTOR's foreign policy, inside he became famous only for the launch of a new series of oligarchs. Under the normal premiere, it would not be fatal, but we have a dim-academician ... fellow
    2. anfil
      anfil 22 November 2015 13: 42
      +1
      De-electrification of Ukraine: next suicidal measures for the sake of Crimea
      The sensational statement by Vladimir Demchishin that Ukraine will refuse Russian electricity can only be explained by the desire to create problems in the Crimea, said Vitaly Bushuev, director general of the Institute for Energy Strategy.

      “We received import only in connection with the fact that one nuclear power unit of Rivne NPP was disconnected from the system due to the completion of the Rivne-Kiev line ...

      By Wednesday, this issue will be closed, that is, on Wednesday we will most likely stop receiving any electricity from the Russian Federation, ”said Vladimir Demchishin. The amount of electricity that the unit can provide is 1000 MW.

      In his opinion, there are no other explanations for such intentions. The expert is convinced that these actions are absolutely irrational and can lead to grave consequences for the Ukrainian industry.

      It reminds me, "To spite mom, I will hang myself." Only in order to scare that anyway we can manage, of course, and hang ourselves. But sane people do not do this, they are always looking for the best options.

      Of course, if such a stir, and they really go to stop using Russian electricity, this could affect the flow of electricity to the Crimea. Everything is done in order to annoy more.

      I do not understand what they are based on. If they want to shut off industrial enterprises and limit the domestic sector - everything can be done to make things bad in Crimea. But really they do not have their sources.

      There is no coal at power plants, even to provide the generation that they create in addition to coming from Russia. They cannot get electricity from Europe.

      The third unit of the Rivne NPP will not fundamentally change the situation. Of course, he will remove some part of the load, one gigawatt can be disconnected from Russian supplies, but this is 10-15% of what they are buying now.

      Refusing Russian supplies is crazy. But, unfortunately, it can be expected that this will be achieved even at the cost of industrial suicide, ”he commented to the FBA“ Economics Today. ”

      It is worth noting that the words of Vladimir Demchishin quite often diverge from the deed. As Valentin Zemlyansky, an expert on energy issues, noted during the discussion about readiness for the start of the heating season, the statements of the Minister of Energy suggest that he lives in some better reality, separate from the rest of the Ukrainians.

      For example, at the end of September it was obvious that in order to ensure the existing generation volume, it would be necessary to purchase from 9 to 12 million tons of coal during the winter. Nevertheless, Vladimir Demchishin claimed that 5 million tons could be dispensed with.

      The Ministry of Energy of Russia reports that they have not received notice of the cessation of electricity purchases from Ukraine. The schedule for the supply of electricity from the UES of Russia to the UES of Ukraine was agreed until November 12, including 2015. At the same time, an agreement is in effect between Inter RAO and Ukrinterenergo, the termination of which has not yet been discussed.
  16. Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 November 2015 05: 26
    14
    Well then, they will just be renamed - in - "das reikh", "dead head", and other historical masters ...

    the nazibatallon of the basics have already given themselves the corresponding emblem of their masters! -



    Nothing like that - Europe said it was okay, normal - it’s fighters for Herrr who knows that .... nothing the Nazis .... the main thing against Russia! request

    All this rotten policy of Europe without taking the language out of the ass of the states - exactly, and rubbish !!! tired of it!
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 22 November 2015 07: 48
      +3
      Well, probably according to their logic, V.Ch. will be called (a dead head), a medal (parashenko and egg), well, everything through .... and ....
    2. Good me
      Good me 22 November 2015 11: 50
      +5
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Well then, they will just be renamed - in - "das reikh", "dead head", and other historical masters ...


      With the inheritance of demise yes .
  17. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 November 2015 05: 37
    +3
    This obscurant does not fall asleep in the evening, so as not to come up with another dirty trick the next day!
  18. EvgNik
    EvgNik 22 November 2015 05: 40
    +1
    Still need to be shortened, so that Poroshenko would be easier to pronounce. For example: gang one, gang two and so on.
  19. Hydrograph
    Hydrograph 22 November 2015 05: 43
    +1
    Of course, Ivanes who don’t remember kinship are weird, completely without a king in their head. But this tendency is with all revolutions. Remember 1918, all the regiments of the Russian army fanned with glory, with a rich history, with awards all abolished. True, some relics of the regiments were preserved by the real military, for the subsequent revival.
  20. rus9875
    rus9875 22 November 2015 05: 44
    +8
    And what else to expect from dill who came to power in Kiev? they don’t even have to bomb them - they themselves successfully chop the branch on which they sit — they spread rot their indisputable heroic history just because it is inextricable from the history of Russia — they don’t even need to bomb them — they dug their own grave and have fun with friendly speeches just wait until the Ukrainian people finally wake up and sweep these pidoro-ovskie temporary workers with a filthy broom
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 22 November 2015 09: 20
      10
      Quote: rus9875
      And what else to expect from dill who came to power in Kiev? they don’t even need to bomb them - they themselves successfully chop the branch on which they sit — they spread rot their indisputable heroic history just because it is inextricable from the history of Russia — they don’t even need to bomb them — they dug their own grave and cheerfully, with friendly words

      Yes, the Americans couldn’t even fight with them - they themselves handed over everything under a hopak.
      1. Colonel
        Colonel 22 November 2015 14: 55
        +6
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        yourself passed everything

        and with joy ...
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 22 November 2015 22: 29
          +3
          Or maybe so
  21. Barakuda
    Barakuda 22 November 2015 05: 49
    +4
    Looks like a petnyushka little in childhood flogged, or a lot. He doesn’t have a head, but a neck extension. Although a bunch of grandmas, not an indicator of the quantity-quality of the brain. And here, that the honor of grandfathers offended, if possible am And I’m sure that in Ukraine I’m not the only one.
  22. VadimSt
    VadimSt 22 November 2015 05: 54
    10
    I have to say many thanks to Parashenko, he did what was required of the whole Russian world. The bastards cannot be guardsmen, order bearers and bearers of glory of Soviet soldiers!
    Banners, orders to return or restore! Assign honorary titles to military units that are genuinely related to these banners and honorary names - at the place of formation, according to participation in events, etc.
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 22 November 2015 09: 02
      +4
      I fully join. I also wanted to express my opinion. True, the names and banners of glorious combat units obtained by blood and valor, as well as the guard status, should have been selected even when Yeltsin was betrayed, but who thought about this? Then a lot of effort was put into the collapse of their own army. Be sure to return the banners!
  23. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 22 November 2015 05: 54
    +5
    They are not worthy to bear glorious names! The only correct solution is the bucket.
  24. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 22 November 2015 05: 55
    +3
    The only correct solution. They are not worthy of glorious names!
  25. Barakuda
    Barakuda 22 November 2015 05: 58
    +3
    Quote: rus9875
    You just have to wait until the Ukrainian people finally wake up and sweep these fagot busters with a filthy broom

    People quietly pull the strap. If the metallurgical miners are silent, what about the rest? sad
    Although sometimes something explodes slowly, and the face is cleaned by Svidomo ATO workers.
  26. lwxx
    lwxx 22 November 2015 06: 10
    +2
    All right! All Ukraine are not worthy of these awards. These awards were once received by the worthy sons of their fatherland, a completely different country. By the way, why didn’t they remove the guards? The guard title still needs to be earned.
  27. shoel
    shoel 22 November 2015 06: 11
    +3
    Ukrafashism, the next step is the oath of the IG and then the tribunal of the accomplices of terror.
  28. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 22 November 2015 06: 37
    0
    Quote: verb
    You read the list, you think that they really have an WHOLE army there.
    250 000 rabble! No matter how you sit-in, you’re not good at soldiers! No matter how you call it, there will not be any stronger. Paralysis of the upper brain is an incurable disease. Only amputation will help. Well, at worst and for speed, a bullet to the head.

    And deduct the cost of the used ammunition from her relatives .... there is nothing for the state to enter at a loss because of all the flawed ones ... wassat
  29. samara-58
    samara-58 22 November 2015 06: 40
    +2
    Silent Ukrainian? Well, keep quiet, they slaughter pigs, so they sell; you are worse than pigs, a meek herd !!! Are the Poles right? .. fool request
  30. PValery53
    PValery53 22 November 2015 07: 28
    +1
    Ukrohokhly make their army without clan, without a tribe, without memory. So it is easier to fall into oblivion from the history of your people.
  31. Geophizik
    Geophizik 22 November 2015 07: 43
    +7
    In fact, the actions of the APU against their own people, they should be recognized as war criminals. Then it is quite natural that they SHOULD BE DEPRIVED OF ALL AWARDS, DISSOLVED AND DISSENTED TO THE COURT OF THE MILITARY TRIBUNAL. Was Valtsman sensing something and taking the first step in the right direction?
  32. lopvlad
    lopvlad 22 November 2015 08: 00
    +3
    The punitive Bandera troops are unworthy of bearing the titles in honor of the famous Russian military commanders and award orders in honor of the great victories of the Russian army, especially after their crimes in the Donbass.
    We will be objective and say that in the Armed Forces of Ukraine those who did not know and do not know that they are killing civilians in the Donbass are simply not there.

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are punitive Bandera troops in the service of the junta and kill on the orders of all who are against this very junta and their masters from across the ocean.

    Therefore, I can only welcome this decision of the junta.
  33. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 22 November 2015 08: 01
    +6
    Quote: Aleksander
    The banners and orders of units from them would be taken to Russia, to preserve the memory of worthy soldiers of these formations ...

    Do not give up in principle! But to buy yes, they will definitely sell it.
  34. Koshak
    Koshak 22 November 2015 08: 06
    +2
    Wasn't the impudence enough to assign the names of traitors and bandits to the units? Or really, "Waltzman sensed something and took the first step in the right direction?" Oh well.....
  35. 1536
    1536 22 November 2015 08: 19
    +3
    What did the name of Suvorov stop them from? After all, the Poles were rotten for nothing, again he pacified the Turks. Some strange approach. The general decline of culture is felt, there is some kind of oligophrenia. Even stranger comments in the article itself. For example: "... I feel feelings of bitterness and shame for ungrateful descendants of soldierswho, with their heroism and blood, managed to earn these abolished titles and orders. "
    Veterans told me that when our units (the troops of the Red Army) during the battles for Ukraine in 1944 approached the city of Berdichev, no one wanted to take it, because the command came up with the idea of ​​giving the division, the first to enter the city, the name "Berdichevskaya" ... Imagine, the Berdichev division, besides, if you still badly pronounce the paired consonants - "b" and "p".
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 22 November 2015 09: 25
      +4
      Quote: 1536
      The name of Suvorov then what prevented them? After all, the Poles spread rot for nothing

      Whoa! Poles spread rot! And they are now our European friends! and Kutuzov and others ... they were respected "under the advice"! means "Down with"! And in general! They are not Ukrainians! Here at Nakhimov - they found that he was the great-grandson of the Cossack centurion Nakhimenko ... but something did not come out very convincingly. So down with it too! But they added "new" ones ...
      The 24th motorized rifle Samaro-Ulyanovsk, Berdichevskaya, Order of the October Revolution, three times the Red Banner, Orders of Suvorov and Bogdan Khmelnitsky Iron Division, stationed in the city of Yavorov, Lviv Region, especially got the once best in the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union.
      So the division was called until the 2003 year. Then Kiev ordered the division to make a separate mechanized brigade. Number, orders and honorary titles are not touched. On the contrary, he also added. Having ordered the long name of the brigade to append at the end also “the name of Prince Daniil of Galich”.
      What a fright? Where was Prince Daniil, and where was the 24th motorized rifle division, named Iron in the 1918 year, during the Civil War, distinguished itself at Stalingrad, in the Donbass offensive operation, in the liberation of Left-Bank Ukraine, in Zhytomyr-Berdichevskaya, Proskurovsky-Chernivtsi, Lviv-Sandomir , East Carpathian, West Carpathian, Moravian-Ostrava and Prague operations?
      Now, therefore, the president burnt out any mention of the glorious battles from the name of the 24th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a hot iron. Although is Poroshenko wrong in this case? He was definitely not guided by such arguments, but in 2014 the heavy battalion tactical groups of the former Iron Division moved to pacify the rebellious Donbass. Her tanks with an armored skating rink went through Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Lysychansk, Krasny Liman. The heroes of Stalingrad probably rushed about in coffins when their formal heirs - soldiers and officers of the 24 mechanized brigade - rushed to the defended handful of militiamen Saur-Mogile, for which the fiercest battles were fought in the Great Patriotic War in Donbass.
      So maybe it’s good that on the banner of this brigade, now foreign to us, only Prince Daniil of Galitsky remained?
  36. sgr291158
    sgr291158 22 November 2015 08: 23
    0
    Looks went over malehs, and here again, it started.
  37. Galan
    Galan 22 November 2015 08: 42
    +2
    Do not have APU rights to these names. Let them win their valor if they can. But this is a big question. Selyuki have never been valiant due to genetic selection, they always lived under someone.
  38. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 22 November 2015 08: 46
    +2
    They are unworthy to bear these names.
  39. AlexTires
    AlexTires 22 November 2015 08: 49
    +1
    There is no point in ruining our orders with their shameful flags! They themselves realized that an army unable to cope with a "handful of separatists" is not worthy of wearing the glorious banners that have absorbed the gunpowder of Berlin and Prague ...
    It remains to be expected when, within the framework of decommunization, the most monumental monument of the Soviet era, the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station, and their own houses, built in those days, will be demolished. And then somehow they cost half measures.
  40. Colonel
    Colonel 22 November 2015 08: 49
    +2
    The reorganization of the cavalry regiment into territorial administration was especially pleased good
  41. igordok
    igordok 22 November 2015 08: 59
    +6
    Depriving combat awards is a SHAME. They still do not understand even this.
    It would have been less shameful for them to completely disband military units, and then create new ones with new numerology.
  42. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 22 November 2015 09: 00
    +6
    The titanic struggle continues the most difficult problems of Ukraine. laughing laughing

    - The Soviet monuments were defeated;
    - Soviet geographical names are defeated;
    - recently defeated passports;
    - Now the names of military units are defeated!

    Peremoga! laughing

    Just think, default; think about the collapse of industry; think, the standard of living is lower than in Somalia. What is the food embargo; lack of coal, lack of gas, the right sector and other fascists, false association with the EU - the main thing is to win virtual Soviet Union!
  43. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 22 November 2015 09: 03
    +1
    Degraders are Caucasian!
    In the Stone Age - step march !!!
  44. sober
    sober 22 November 2015 09: 30
    +4
    A Ukrainian guy married a Russian girl. Before the wedding night, his father instructs him: -First, take her in your arms and bring her to the bed. Show how strong Ukraine is. Then take off your shirt, show how beautiful Ukraine is. And a voice from the neighboring grandfather’s rooms: -And then start jerking off. -Show which Ukraine is INDEPENDENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  45. martin-159
    martin-159 22 November 2015 09: 33
    +1
    Reminded: "Elk, just Elk."
  46. shelva
    shelva 22 November 2015 09: 37
    +3
    And rightly so - no one is worthless to these tricks.
  47. Turkir
    Turkir 22 November 2015 10: 01
    +2
    Military valor can only be earned, but cannot be undone.
    No decrees of gangster power will help here.
    Poroshenko-Waltzman has alcohol and chocolate instead of brains.
  48. Old26
    Old26 22 November 2015 10: 14
    +4
    Quote: Sirocco
    I hope this does not last long, should patience burst among the people? Or did the people become out of politics?

    Oh, don't hope that all this will happen quickly. Many, very many were zombified so that for them anyone living in Russia is an enemy. My former work colleague has a wife from the Khmelnytsky region. The last time they were there was in 2012. Even then, even at the household level, according to him, one could feel caution. And already in 2013, his wife's mother stopped talking to her daughter altogether. In rare telephone conversations, either swearing or not talking to my daughter at all, accusing her of having married me. And she didn't care that it was 30 years ago. For them, Russia is to blame for everything. And this is a rather elderly person who, as it would seem, should be "vaccinated" against nationalism. But nonetheless. I am afraid that a generational change will be needed for everything to stabilize in Russia-Ukraine relations. Comes sooner - God forbid
  49. veksha50
    veksha50 22 November 2015 10: 23
    +3
    Interestingly, the grandmothers are dancing ... Apparently, they were in a hurry with the Decree ... I'm not talking about the fact that the names "Guards (s)" and "Iron" were not thrown out of the names - and this is a purely Soviet heritage ...

    The former Zhytomyr air defense school (now an institute) remained to bear the name of S.P. Korolev ...

    But what I liked the most: the former Lviv Political School, which had previously graduated military journalists and headquarters, now has become (!!!) the National Academy of Ground Forces ... That's why they dance in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and do ...
  50. Reinhard
    Reinhard 22 November 2015 10: 26
    +4
    It would be disgusting to cancel awards. But! Are the "soldiers of Ukraine" worthy of SUCH awards? am