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Yevkurov: the rule should be extended to terrorists - “not to take prisoner”

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The head of Ingushetia, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov, proposed to extend to the terrorists who have committed a serious crime the rule: “not to take prisoner”, to destroy on the spot, reports RIA News.




On Wednesday, a member of the Federation Council, Franz Klintsevich, suggested that in connection with the exacerbated situation and the increased threat “to initiate an appeal to the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation to lift the moratorium on the death penalty.”

“Members of the Federation Council propose lifting the moratorium on the death penalty for terrorists. I think that this will not have to be done if we give the special services the right to find and destroy terrorists who, by their actions, have encroached upon the life and safety of our citizens, the property and infrastructure of our country, wherever they are. The rule “not to be taken prisoner” should apply to all terrorists, that is, no one is to be detained, only liquidation ”,
wrote the head of Ingushetia in his Instagram.

However, he clarified that such measures "should be resorted to only in exceptional cases and everything should be in accordance with the law."

“It is difficult to talk about the humanity of such decisions when it comes to the lives of civilians, children, women, old people who are killed by these nonhumans,” Yevkurov added.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 19 November 2015 11: 52
    21
    At the Airborne Forces is simple. smile
    1. sannych
      sannych 19 November 2015 11: 54
      25
      The Airborne Forces yes, but not just for human rights activists, right now the screams will begin - totalitarianism, bloody gebnya, human rights, children and all that.
      1. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 19 November 2015 11: 56
        30
        This is a very correct thought. By the fact that feeding these scumbags at the expense of taxpayers on the pancreas in any colony, nafig is not necessary.
        The only thing you can first (if possible) to capture for some kind of information. And then eliminate.
        1. Temples
          Temples 19 November 2015 12: 07
          21
          The Airborne Forces yes, but not just for human rights activists, right now the screams will begin - totalitarianism, bloody gebnya, human rights, children and all that.

          Yes, let them howl.
          If they wail in defense of a terrorist who has been destroyed, they must also be recognized as terrorists and in all severity.
          You look and disappear defenders of terrorists.
          1. corporal
            corporal 19 November 2015 12: 34
            +3
            Quote: Temples
            they must also be recognized as terrorists and in all severity.

            Aides, accomplices, With all the ensuing legal consequences
          2. veksha50
            veksha50 19 November 2015 12: 36
            +3
            Quote: Temples
            they must also be recognized as terrorists



            At least - accomplices of terrorists, and solder the article for 25 years ... Then they will think - to be "human rights activists" or not ...
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 19 November 2015 12: 27
          +6
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          The only thing you can first (if possible) to capture for some kind of information. And then eliminate.

          That's the whole difficulty in this matter.

          It is still necessary to capture someone alive in order to shake out additional information about customers and financiers and so on .... but how can you "liquidate" them later? after all, we officially have a moratorium on executions. (here legal subtleties come out. You cannot do what the moratorium applies to, and so the liquidation of the nye can safely be interpreted as murder, and in order not to be interpreted in this way, a corresponding bill is needed. in general, complete dregs)
          IMHA Here probably specialists will act only at their level. They will report on the destruction of a group of militants and keep silent about the captured ones, and this taking into account the fact that the bodies of terrorists are not given to relatives and friends.
          1. atalef
            atalef 19 November 2015 12: 36
            +7
            Quote: Scoun
            That's the whole difficulty in this matter.

            This is just the difficulty, I am for the destruction of terrorists on the spot, infa is not worth it, then to feed and treat him for the rest of his life.
            Enough information is supplied by agents introduced into the territorial organization.
            And with the approach - do not take the living and the number of bandits will be diminished.
            The problem is that human rights activists are screaming - THEY ARE SAME CHILDREN.
            1. Koshak
              Koshak 19 November 2015 13: 13
              0
              Quote: atalef
              ... infa is not worth it, then to feed and treat it until the end of life.

              Infa is worth it to pull the entire chain from the performer to the customer and prevent potential victims. No prison bandit is worth the lives of people.
          2. Borets
            Borets 19 November 2015 17: 58
            0
            Yes, just throw them on the territory of the terraces, they themselves will execute them.
        3. not main
          not main 19 November 2015 21: 50
          0
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          The only thing you can first (if possible) to capture for some kind of information. And then eliminate.

          To eliminate this is all the more bad for any "human rights activists"! But when trying to escape, a heart attack (after all, does his conscience torment him?), Etc.
      2. cniza
        cniza 19 November 2015 11: 57
        12
        Quote: sannych
        The Airborne Forces yes, but not just for human rights activists, right now the screams will begin - totalitarianism, bloody gebnya, human rights, children and all that.



        And let them scream, and Yevkurov is a military general.
        1. corn
          corn 19 November 2015 12: 05
          -6
          Quote: cniza
          and Yevkurov is a military general.

          Fucking argument. What about General Duduev Dzhokhar Musaevich. I’m not tired of rushing with slogans.
          1. Rom14
            Rom14 19 November 2015 12: 20
            +8
            Dudayev is a bandit killer .., Yevkurov against this evil spirits .. The proposal is correct, to destroy reptiles on the spot and accomplices with sympathizers, preferably in public ...
            1. corn
              corn 19 November 2015 12: 28
              +6
              Quote: Rom14
              Dudaev is a killer bandit ..,

              This is what I am trying to explain. "Combat General" is not an argument in proving the correctness or incorrectness of thoughts and actions. You cannot be guided by emotions. You can express emotions in personal communication, on paper they look much stupid.
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 19 November 2015 12: 39
                0
                Quote: corn
                You can express emotions in personal communication, on paper they look a lot stupid.



                I don’t remember what yesterday’s article is called here on VO, in which Jacob Kedmi’s interview about the fight against terrorism is squeezed in the comments ...

                Tough, cynical, but intelligible ... Try to find and listen, there is an interview somewhere for 26-28 minutes, but very useful ...

                Then, can it be (???) Your opinion is somewhat different and will change ...
                1. corn
                  corn 19 November 2015 12: 49
                  0
                  Quote: veksha50
                  Your opinion will change somewhat ...

                  Let’s point by point, in which I need to change my mind, I do not understand.
                  1. veksha50
                    veksha50 19 November 2015 14: 05
                    0
                    Quote: corn
                    Let’s point by point, in which I need to change my mind, I do not understand.



                    I did not say that you need to change your mind, but said that maybe change it ...

                    You got involved in a dispute with cniza that Yevkurov was right - not right ... I also suggested listening to an interview with Y. Kedmi ...

                    It was just without emotion that he revealed his positions and views on terrorism and the fight against it ...
                    What claims ??? If someone has instructed you in the minuses, do not rush at all in a row because of this ...
                    1. corn
                      corn 19 November 2015 15: 09
                      +1
                      Quote: veksha50
                      What claims ??? If someone has instructed you in the minuses, do not rush at all in a row because of this ...

                      I have no complaints, it’s a pity that I gave reason to take my comment so.
                      Without pleasure, but I would change my mind, and therefore asked what.
                      I did not enter into an argument with cniza about the correctness or incorrectness of Yevkurov's statements, but only pointed out and tried to substantiate that the "combat general" is not an argument in such a discussion.

                      About Y. Kedmi. As a citizen of Israel, he often has to deal with manifestations of terrorism, and therefore his views on the fight against terrorism are tougher than mine, a citizen of Russia, who has less to deal with this phenomenon. Psychologically, this is understandable.
                      To defuse the situation. Note that you talked about the minuses, and the minuses appeared already in my comments and I didn’t put any minuses to anyone, but just tried to explain my position, unlike those who put the minuses, but can’t explain the position.
                      It does not concern you. You are trying to explain your position. I declare not unfounded: For 11 months on the site an average of 20 comments per day, both working and not working (spied on your profile). Sincerely.
              2. BaLaLaykin
                BaLaLaykin 19 November 2015 12: 50
                0
                Totally agree
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          3. BaLaLaykin
            BaLaLaykin 19 November 2015 12: 48
            +1
            Corrected you minus the plus, your question is logical
            1. corn
              corn 19 November 2015 14: 07
              +2
              Quote: Lalaika
              Corrected you minus the plus,

              Thank you, of course, but with a longer stay on the site, the desire to play in the pluses, minus signs will pass. I think so.
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      4. Sharapov
        Sharapov 19 November 2015 11: 57
        +3
        And we won’t tell them how the scoundrel perished.
        1. Air Force captain
          Air Force captain 19 November 2015 11: 59
          +2
          A very humane way, like Somali pirates ... put in a boat ... and where the fate curve will lead. Lucky - moor, no, drown ... and here it is the same .. drift on a barge and in the sea of ​​Laptev’s ... yes increase the population of polar bears
          1. Cormorants
            Cormorants 19 November 2015 12: 02
            +5
            Well done Yevkurov, I like him more than Kadyrov!
            1. sherp2015
              sherp2015 19 November 2015 12: 21
              +4
              Quote: Cormorants
              Well done Yevkurov, I like him more than Kadyrov!


              Well, Yevkurov is still a real Soviet officer ...
            2. igorka357
              igorka357 19 November 2015 13: 56
              +1
              Yevkurov is just a real hero .. but not done! I hope everyone heard about the throw to Pristina ..?
          2. vladimirw
            vladimirw 19 November 2015 12: 14
            +1
            take it far, overhead is big, better on the spot ...
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          4. Rom14
            Rom14 19 November 2015 12: 23
            0
            Yes, the Bears will not eat scum ...
          5. demo
            demo 19 November 2015 12: 28
            0
            And who said that ours relied "on chance"?
            After all, is there a variant of what they eat?
            Therefore, the boat was simply destroyed, along with the contents.
            The ocean took its share.
      5. Amurets
        Amurets 19 November 2015 12: 02
        +4
        Quote: sannych
        The Airborne Forces yes, but not just for human rights activists, right now the screams will begin - totalitarianism, bloody gebnya, human rights, children and all that.

        Here is to collect all these human rights activists and to throw into the machine gun fire stoned militants, what then will they sing?
        1. demo
          demo 19 November 2015 12: 29
          0
          The survivors will stop singing until the end of their days. And some say.
      6. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 19 November 2015 12: 02
        +1
        I very much agree with him ... there’s nothing to discuss here ...
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 19 November 2015 12: 42
          +2
          Quote: sasha 19871987
          I very much agree with him ... there’s nothing to discuss here ...



          And you will notice that lately, at first, it has been circulating in the media: "In ... a counter-terrorist operation has begun" ... Half a day passes - in the media it appears: "The militants have been destroyed" ...

          Reports of prisoners less and less ...

          So, while the boyars, deputies, human rights activists are boiling their porridge, the siloviki really solve the problem ... And they do it right ...
      7. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 19 November 2015 12: 03
        +4
        Quote: sannych
        but not just with human rights activists, right now the cries will begin - totalitarianism,

        Everything is nonsense .. they’re taken alive only from whom the info is needed or to shine the judges by the court, and the rest are equated with zero ..
      8. your1970
        your1970 19 November 2015 12: 17
        0
        In Israel then "Kvovaya GEBNYA" belay (coupled with totalitarianism) 40 has been operating for years with the consent of the government and citizens yes
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 19 November 2015 12: 24
          +2
          Quote: your1970
          In Israel then "Kvovaya GEBNYA"

          it acts very correctly .. cruelty is only even greater cruelty, the word of God with ghouls will not help in vain in all normal specials the holy principle of blood vengeance and blood for blood, otherwise everything will sink in snot ..
      9. provincial
        provincial 19 November 2015 12: 19
        0
        put this question to a referendum !!!!!
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      11. demo
        demo 19 November 2015 12: 25
        +5
        Today I read the posted appeal of the husband of the woman killed in Paris.
        Such a tolerant horseradish that even in the face give him a bastard.
        He says.
        "You, monsters! You killed the mother of my child! You tried to take my love away! Do you want hatred to settle in my heart? You will not wait!"
        And further.
        "I will bring up my son and in my heart I will love my lost wife."
        Well, how's a man-protector?
        You can’t remember about the cheek.
        Then he immediately took off his pants, bent over and offered lubrication.
        Not for myself.
        And for the one behind.
        Fu, the misunderstanding is abominable.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 19 November 2015 12: 45
          0
          Quote: demo
          Well, how's a man-protector?



          This is most likely a sick person with mental disabilities ...

          It is because of such terrorists that they feel everywhere at home ... and with impunity ...
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 19 November 2015 13: 24
          +4
          Quote: demo
          Today I read the posted appeal of the husband of the woman killed in Paris.
          Such a tolerant horseradish that even in the face give him a bastard.

          I have no claim to ask cleanly - what should he do?
          1.
          А. to abandon the child and go kill the aliens and Muslims with all the consequences
          В. to believe and hope that his state will punish the guilty and try to choose the government that can in the future and protect and punish if necessary.
          2.
          А... start writing in his account that he goes on the path of revenge and will kill everyone in the "toilets" and engage in "inciting" hatred (in fact, replenishment in the couch troops)
          В. write what he wrote and try, for example, to write about what people would be vigilant to prevent something like that in the future ... well, something like that in this format.


          I'm just curious, specifically no complaints .. just your actions / preferences? (suggest other options).
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 19 November 2015 13: 45
            +1
            Quote: Scoun
            A. start writing in his account that he is on the path of revenge and will kill everyone in the "toilets" and engage in "inciting" hatred (in fact, replenishment in the couch troops)

            You know, there is such an Ossetian man who took and took revenge - went to Switzerland when, due to the fault of their dispatcher, our plane with children crashed ... and he did more for flight safety than all the spells of politicians and officials ... because that dispatcher did not practically incur punishment .. this is an Act. Although he was condemned, I am sure that as among them it is customary to say - "He defended his term on one leg"
            1. ANTI.KORR.
              ANTI.KORR. 19 November 2015 13: 52
              +1
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              .and he did more for safety than all the spells of politicians and officials ..

              I absolutely agree with you! good + + + + +
              Responsibility can only be instilled in the inevitability of punishment for irresponsibility.
              This applies to absolutely all areas of life, and as far as safety is concerned, so there the punishment should be tenfold. IMHO.
            2. Scoun
              Scoun 19 November 2015 14: 21
              +1
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              You know, there is such a Man of Ossetians who took and took revenge

              Kaloev is his last name, I know others about whom the press does not write like that.
              Of course you can breed the lyrics ....
              But I specifically asked about a specific person who had a child in his arms, and another moment, everyone "knew" the dispatcher.
              The perpetrators of the terrorist act were killed and the customers were unknown or known in a streamlined form as "ISIS / Islamists".
              That is, as I understand it, he should leave the child and go to Syria to join the army and avenge the igila and nusra?
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 19 November 2015 15: 04
                0
                Quote: Scoun
                That is, as I understand it, he should leave the child and go to Syria to join the army and avenge the igila and nusra?

                You see, the whole matter is in a specific person - one was not afraid of anything, the second can be tolerant to blueness .. if he is a man .. health and age allows, then they can bleed blood, it’s incredible, not even leaving France ...
            3. fazayek
              fazayek 19 November 2015 15: 14
              +1
              Oh, how I love people who are not fumbling, but at the same time remembering the tragedy over Baden. However, in this context, I see for the first time. Before you write, make inquiries and find records of what happened on that day. And he is not a hero, but a murderer. And even more so, he did nothing for flight safety.
              Equating a dispatcher to terrorists is strong, why are you flying then?
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 19 November 2015 15: 34
                0
                Quote: fazayek
                Equating a dispatcher to terrorists is strong, why are you flying then?

                You have very straightforward (primitive) analogies, work on yourself, read more, analyze .. etc.
                with regards to air traffic controllers - here you are right, not in the tooth with your foot, not in the drawbar ..
                1. fazayek
                  fazayek 19 November 2015 15: 41
                  0
                  At least I do not expose killers as heroes and fighters for safety, unlike some. You should also read before touching on topics you don’t understand
      12. lukewarm
        lukewarm 19 November 2015 12: 30
        0
        100% will start. And what to do? Listen to screams?
      13. meriem1
        meriem1 19 November 2015 12: 45
        +1
        Quote: sannych
        The Airborne Forces yes, but not just for human rights activists, right now the screams will begin - totalitarianism, bloody gebnya, human rights, children and all that.


        Yes, they went ... away! When we were torn at home here. they (the liberals) were yelling about the freedom that we infringe. About Syria, they yell about the killed civilians. hanging out like in an ice hole. They cannot gather their thoughts! Do not turn it, a double standard is obtained. Only always not in favor of Russia. Watering the terrorists !!! Yunus-Beck is right. A judge caught, executed by hanging and in public!
      14. BaLaLaykin
        BaLaLaykin 19 November 2015 12: 45
        0
        Introduce the practice of exchanging hostages for "human rights defenders" at a rate of 1 to 3, then there will be fewer "human rights defenders" and the special services will risk less
      15. jovanni
        jovanni 19 November 2015 12: 48
        0
        I propose to consider human rights activists harnessing for terrorists accomplices! They’re masters at language, let them better help the Motherland raise the woodworking industry ...
      16. Sheikh
        Sheikh 19 November 2015 13: 05
        -1
        hot Caucasian guys; It is of fundamental importance to detain any criminal, and even more so a terrorist, alive and having the opportunity to testify, including about the organization and organizers, and the new testimony of criminals sentenced to a term or life imprisonment about the nature of their ties once again emphasizes the undeniable correctness of the abolition of the death penalty.
        all - IMHO.
      17. SibSlavRus
        SibSlavRus 19 November 2015 13: 06
        +1
        It is not clear what the problem is.
        Conduct a referendum if you (legislators) are afraid to make decisions.
        We have not fully trusted you for a long time.

        And the proposal has long been "overripe". Not only terrorists should be put under the category of liquidated, the list should be consolidated by drug dealers, treason and corruption of state officials.

        If real men in the legislative branch break the liberoids in this matter, then let them know that the support of the people in the elections will be behind them and they are not afraid of anyone. They would also have contributed, following this, to the introduction of hard labor (let the creatures work out!) And the squeezing of mediocrity and incompetent individuals from the Kremlin.
      18. avdkrd
        avdkrd 19 November 2015 13: 19
        0
        Quote: sannych
        The Airborne Forces yes, but not just for human rights activists, right now the screams will begin - totalitarianism, bloody gebnya, human rights, children and all that.

        Yes, in principle, no one will interfere with "lying with the device" on human rights activists. It is not necessary to formalize this principle by an official order, it is enough not to punish for finishing off when "trying to escape" and not to limit the means.
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  2. valday
    valday 19 November 2015 11: 53
    +2
    I absolutely agree with him!
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 19 November 2015 11: 56
      0
      Something I somehow did not notice, that would be like in Hollywood films, for 3-4 days they persuaded me to go out and lay down their arms.
  3. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 19 November 2015 11: 54
    0
    Handsome man! Only so, and not otherwise.
    1. slaw14
      slaw14 19 November 2015 12: 31
      0
      And the last 14 years we have and so "Only this way and not otherwise." Name the terrorist who was taken alive?
  4. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 19 November 2015 11: 55
    +3
    A man with a capital letter. Kadyrov before him as before China ... sideways. repeat
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 19 November 2015 11: 56
      +1
      And what is Kadyrov bad about? Everything to the point says.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 19 November 2015 12: 02
        +5
        Quote: Good AAAH
        And what is Kadyrov bad about?

        In the first Chechen one with his dad, he ran through the mountains, he cut our soldiers.
        1. demo
          demo 19 November 2015 12: 51
          +2
          During the conquest of the Caucasus, both they, and Dagestanis, and many others slaughtered Russians.
          But we also chopped their heads.
          The war went on for 60 years.
          And after all, Caucasians were convinced that the Russians are stronger.
          And they went "under the arm" of the Russian tsar.
          As soon as the hand loosened, a riot broke out instantly.

          Draw conclusions.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 19 November 2015 14: 19
            +1
            Quote: demo
            Draw conclusions.

            Now there is no strong hand in Chechnya. Previously, the Cossacks, in particular Terek Cossacks, were a strong hand. Now they just bought Chechnya (huge state subsidies). There is in Dagestan, not in Chechnya. As soon as the subsidies end, blood will flow. Grozny used to be at least 70% a Russian city, but now there are no Russians there.
            Young people are brought up in pronounced national traditions that are fundamentally alien (namely Chechen) to the Russian mentality. For many teenagers, fathers were militants (1st and 2nd wars). Moreover, they are alien to other peoples of the Caucasus, there Chekhov does not like anyone.
            I think Chechnya still comes around.
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  5. Altona
    Altona 19 November 2015 11: 56
    +2
    The idea is correct, only it is necessary to register such a "license to kill" legally. Because lynching as in the United States should not be ... There, the police have killed 800 of their citizens this year ...
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 19 November 2015 11: 59
      +2
      You don’t even need to prescribe anything. They slammed everyone, it happened. And take this as a rule.
      1. corn
        corn 19 November 2015 12: 09
        -2
        Quote: Good AAAH
        They slammed everyone, it happened

        And at the same time, and Good AAAH (by chance), it happened.
        1. DobryAAH
          DobryAAH 19 November 2015 12: 16
          0
          Me for what? I'm not a terrorist.
          1. corn
            corn 19 November 2015 12: 32
            +3
            Quote: Good AAAH
            Me for scho

            Joke.
            A hare is sitting on a stump. Beasts rush past.
            - Squint, run. The lion to those who have three eggs - tears off.
            “I have two.”
            - He first tears off, and then counts.
            I wrote by accident.
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      2. Per se.
        Per se. 19 November 2015 12: 21
        +2
        Quote: Good AAAH
        They slammed everyone, it happened. And take this as a rule.
        Sometimes the performer can hand over the customer, the rule "Death to spies", at one time, chopped off all the ends of the disclosure of enemy agents. There are those among terrorists whom it is better to destroy immediately, but where it is not necessary "not to be taken prisoner" is hardly reasonable.
        1. Altona
          Altona 19 November 2015 14: 30
          0
          Quote: Per se.
          Sometimes the performer can hand over the customer, the rule "Death to spies", at one time, chopped off all the ends of the disclosure of enemy agents. There are those among terrorists whom it is better to destroy immediately, but where it is not necessary "not to be taken prisoner" is hardly reasonable.

          -----------------
          The institution of hostage also needs to be used, that is, take relatives and friends hostage so that they monitor their non-petty relative and do not cover him ...
    2. Rom14
      Rom14 19 November 2015 12: 47
      +1
      License to neutralize ..
      Quote: Good AAAH
      We'll have to slap all the oligarchs. They grabbed all the good with the help of a hyper-scam.
      THREE HANDS FOR !!
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  6. Alexey Boukin
    Alexey Boukin 19 November 2015 11: 56
    +8
    I fully and fully support the proposal of Franz Klintsevich to lift the moratorium on the death penalty. And apply this measure of punishment not only to terrorists, but also to persons plundering the country on an especially large scale.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 19 November 2015 12: 01
      +4
      We'll have to slap all the oligarchs. They grabbed all the good with the help of a hyper-scam.
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 19 November 2015 12: 29
        +3
        Quote: Good AAAH
        Have to slap all the oligarchs

        That's good. For mega-theft there should be mega-punishment. For the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty - the majority of the population, this is not a fortune teller. therefore there will never be such a referendum.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 19 November 2015 12: 51
        +2
        Quote: Good AAAH
        We'll have to slap all the oligarchs.


        None of the oligarchs earned their wealth through honest labor and bloody calluses ... All this, originally "accumulated", is the result of the plundering of the state and people ...

        Behind their money are thousands of ruined, broken lives of Russian citizens ...

        So - do not mind ... The only condition is: the complete confiscation of all movable and immovable property in the treasury of the state ...
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    3. inpu
      inpu 19 November 2015 13: 58
      0
      Quote: alexey bukin
      I fully and fully support the proposal of Franz Klintsevich to lift the moratorium on the death penalty. And apply this measure of punishment not only to terrorists, but also to persons plundering the country on an especially large scale.

      I agree on the account of the death penalty maratorium.

      But at the expense of the second - no. If you do this, you get the flight of capital from the state, and the inevitable collapse of the economy. Ukraine in recent years has experienced several times like this. I think on the contrary, it is necessary to whitewash the capital that was stolen and to facilitate the return back of the part that was withdrawn abroad. Soldering iron and bullets, in this case, can only exacerbate.

      In general, the fight against corruption is not an easy process. Perhaps we can only talk about the effective management of corruption processes, and not about the effective fight. Because the struggle process has a beginning, but no end, and stupid resistance can be more harmful than beneficial to society.
      1. Altona
        Altona 19 November 2015 14: 20
        0
        Quote: inpu
        Soldering iron and bullets, in this case, can only exacerbate.

        ---------------------
        Why so rude? There are other persuasion methods that are more effective ...
  7. Wolka
    Wolka 19 November 2015 11: 56
    +3
    absolutely agree with Yevkurov ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 19 November 2015 12: 00
      +6
      Quote: Volka
      absolutely agree with Yevkurov ...



      Only it is necessary not to talk about it, and not to prevent specialists from doing their work.
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  8. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 19 November 2015 11: 58
    +5
    logical. although I think that at present our security forces are acting in this way - they offered to go out with their paws to the top, they didn’t come out - they launched a "bumblebee" there.
  9. corn
    corn 19 November 2015 11: 58
    -7
    I understand Yevkurov's statements, since he is a representative of the people professing Islam, and in Islam "an eye for an eye" prevails, and not "turn your left cheek". Adherents of Christianity, Islam and other religions, please do not bother.
    1. corn
      corn 19 November 2015 12: 18
      -2
      Continuing my comment. Today only representatives of Islam declare "jihad" - "hot" war with representatives of other faiths. Or someone wants to argue that representatives of different beliefs have differences in moral principles, that the concept of "universal" values ​​is more a myth than a truth.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 19 November 2015 14: 51
        +2
        Quote: corn
        Today, only the representatives of Islam declare "jihad" - "hot" war with representatives of other faiths.

        Ah ha))) please excuse me)) laughed could not resist)))
        Today is clearly not my day)))
        These same Islamists are the proclaimers of jihadism))) who have already "won" there?
        and all sorts of peaceful Christians "Catholics and Protestants" racked up Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, impose sanctions against others and not for nothing called the GDP "Crusade" but as you know, all these crusades were in glory ..... yes Yes.
        PS
        And do not remember who the words belong to -

        34 Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword, 35 for I came to divide. a man with his father, and a daughter with her mother, and a daughter-in-law with her mother-in-law.

        and which can be interpreted as acceptable without another mark.
        But He didn’t come for that, to reconcile the sons of light with the sons of darkness


        1. corn
          corn 19 November 2015 15: 31
          0
          I didn’t want to answer, but I have to.
          Quote: Scoun
          who have already been "conquered" there?

          Part of Syria and Iraq, God forbid if there is more.
          Quote: Scoun
          and all sorts of peaceful Christians

          You think that they are peaceful, I do not. But they do not declare a war holy and religious, do not involve religion here, unlike representatives of some Muslims.
          Quote: Scoun
          but as you know, all these crusades were for the glory ..... yes yes.

          The key word WAS, and jihad IS today. Read my comments carefully.
          Quote: Scoun
          "Crusade"

          A beautiful comparison for the figurativeness of speech, I am proud that the President of Russia is able to express his thoughts figuratively.
          Something today has drawn to the epistolary genre.
          1. Scoun
            Scoun 19 November 2015 16: 23
            -1
            Quote: corn
            Part of Syria and Iraq,

            well, these same they were there, in general, they lived))) and across the continent came to them "cowboys")))
            Quote: corn
            But they do not declare war holy and religious

            Oga)) Europe then declared crusades and stupidly robbed themselves)))
            Now they "carry" freedom and democracy, and they are stupidly robbing)))

            Europeans and British lived so well precisely due to the loot that had been stolen earlier, in the English museum of exhibits from the Pyramids more than in countries where the pyramids themselves come from (figuratively speaking)))
            )) Have a nice day))
    2. a housewife
      a housewife 19 November 2015 12: 43
      +3
      That is, you are for Islam, but against Islam? How interesting! And about Christianity and turning the other cheek - understand, this only applies to persecution of the Christian faith. What does the bandits have to do with it ?! The Patriotic Church blessed the war. There are priests in the army, are they trying to persuade them not to use weapons? Stupidity on this subject is already tired of reading!
      1. corn
        corn 19 November 2015 13: 02
        0
        Quote: housewife
        That is, you are for Islam, but against Islam?

        I am not for religion, not for what. I believe that religion is opium for the people. From my point of view, the Christian religion at this stage is more prone to forgiveness and believes that God will punish, and the Muslim religion is more likely to punish a person, and God will forgive him. And moreover, the particulars that you described here, I really do not understand. For me, Islam is a religion. Islam is all that is associated with this religion.
    3. Altona
      Altona 19 November 2015 14: 27
      0
      Quote: corn
      since he is a representative of the people professing Islam, and in Islam "an eye for an eye" prevails, and not "turn your left cheek". Adherents of Christianity, Islam and other religions, please do not bother.

      ---------------------------
      Regarding military actions to protect the state, the church is unequivocally for the murder of the enemy who encroached on the integrity of the Fatherland ... There are no cheeks and ok ... Holy Prince Alexander Nevsky directly said "whoever comes to us with a sword is from the sword (Iskander, Caliber, Armata etc.) will perish "... Islam is nothing at all, Islam is a religion for merchants, because Christianity initially does not welcome it there, but against usury, as the Jews say, because they live in clans, clans , with teips, sort of like noncomilfo to relatives on a loan at interest ... So there is no need to ascribe to Islam that which has never been in it ...
      1. corn
        corn 19 November 2015 15: 53
        0
        Quote: Altona
        So do not attribute to Islam that which it never had ...

        Let’s more specifically, what I attributed to Islam, what is not in it? From your comment I did not understand, sorry for some lack of understanding.
      2. corn
        corn 19 November 2015 16: 28
        0
        Quote: Altona
        The Holy Prince Alexander Nevsky said directly "whoever comes to us with a sword will die from the sword (Iskander, Caliber, Armata, etc.)"

        Do not spread misconceptions, this phrase was said by artist Cherkasov in the Eisenstein film.
        This is a modified version:
        1. Phrases from the Bible: "And behold, one of those who were with Jesus, stretched out his hand, drew his sword and, striking the servant of the high priest, cut off his ear. Then Jesus said to him: Return your sword to its place; for all who took the sword, they will perish by the sword. "
        2. Phrases from the "Revelation of John the Theologian": "Whoever leads into captivity, he himself will go into captivity; whoever kills with the sword, he must be killed by the sword."
        3. The Romans: Qui gladio ferit, gladio perit (He who fights with the sword, dies from the sword).
        And now you will refer to the source where you got that this phrase belongs to the "Holy Prince Alexander Nevsky".
  10. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 19 November 2015 12: 00
    0
    And as a source of information to use first, then what you want to do .. I think so.
  11. svu93
    svu93 19 November 2015 12: 01
    +1
    I support! Yes, and the GDP at the time expressed its point of view, about toilets now all of Europe remembered! So that approval from above has already been received !!)))
  12. Styx
    Styx 19 November 2015 12: 02
    +2
    I completely agree, the matter speaks quite justifiably: only these bullets who are ready to kill for pleasure will calm down, and, they say, wooden is best
  13. guzik007
    guzik007 19 November 2015 12: 02
    +2
    Why voice the open secret? To give a reason to all humanists to scream about "bloody gebnya"?
    They are not particularly taken prisoner. But if there is an opportunity to pull the chain out of the prisoner, then I think there is no need to rush. In the "black dolphin" and so will stay for a short time, a couple of months and to the churchyard under a peg with a number.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 19 November 2015 12: 14
      +3
      Why voice it?
      In order for lovers to enrich themselves at the expense of ruined lives, what awaits them, you see the number of people who want to help terrorists will decrease.
  14. V.ic
    V.ic 19 November 2015 12: 02
    +1
    It was high time to cancel this shameful moratorium.
  15. Velizariy
    Velizariy 19 November 2015 12: 04
    +3
    Quote: Good AAAH
    And what is Kadyrov bad about? Everything to the point says.

    Well, Yevkurov did not participate in illegal groups and was not involved in the killings of Russian people and the hostage-taking, for example, of the hospital ...
    Such is the "small" difference.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 19 November 2015 12: 22
      +1
      Do you remember Christ's parable "The Prodigal Son"?
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  16. Mera joota
    Mera joota 19 November 2015 12: 06
    +1
    Dunce, what else to say. Murder without trial is a crime. This is the first. But not the point.
    The main thing is that the dead do not talk. It is impossible to obtain information from a corpse, it is impossible to recruit a corpse, it is impossible to establish observation of a corpse, etc. Only the agents can defeat the underground; learn the boobies from Comrade Stalin who defeated the OUN through intelligence work. Well, or if there is no desire to delve into the essence, read Bogomolov.
    And the dead terrorists only gain a halo of martyrs and give birth to new ones ...
    1. dmb
      dmb 19 November 2015 12: 11
      +1
      That's right, so most likely Klintsevich’s populist proposal is more logical.
  17. amba balamut 77
    amba balamut 77 19 November 2015 12: 07
    +4
    It’s impossible on the spot, it’s necessary after a good interrogation, hedgehogs did not resist during the detention. It requires confiscation, verification of relatives for complicity, dismissal of relatives from senior posts and much more. But in our country, the word confiscation of all bureaucrats starting from the supreme, fierce intolerance. Such a proposal requires a lot of painstaking study. Our lawmakers are not used to strain.
  18. roskot
    roskot 19 November 2015 12: 07
    +1
    The air will be cleaner. Inhumans must know their end.
  19. Signaller
    Signaller 19 November 2015 12: 07
    0
    I agree completely, but only after the trial. And before that, get all the info from them, Appearances, names, passwords, addresses, phone numbers.
  20. a housewife
    a housewife 19 November 2015 12: 09
    +2
    I am always against the death penalty. For a simple reason, it’s scary if an innocent is executed, and only then it will become clear. And no one is safe, not a single person, you never know! But about terrorists it is impossible to say so. They are in arms, they are at war, during the war, the enemy killed - not execution, not punishment. Otherwise, you won’t stop them! It means to stop. In addition to rare exceptions, when he surrenders himself, he has to find out in detail, perhaps they have made a fool of his head and have not yet managed to do anything. Only then can he escape death. For such an inevitable death is only an excuse to resist to the end and, perhaps, still kill someone. At the same time, ordinary killers should be given long sentences, and not released after a few years.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 19 November 2015 14: 33
      +1
      Quote: housewife
      For a simple reason, it’s scary if an innocent is executed, and only then it will become clear.

      The death penalty for murderers will save thousands of people from violent death. Statistics on innocent people sentenced to death are hundreds, thousands of times less. No matter how cynical it sounded, but when on one side of the scale the life of one, on the other thousand, the choice will be unambiguous. Small blood is better than large.
      P.S. just don't speculate with theses on the topic "what if you or your loved ones are innocently shot?" According to the theory of probability, the chance that your loved ones will be killed by bandits is higher than mine will be shot by innocent people.
      Sorry if I offended, just when arguing about the death penalty, opponents almost always ask the question "What if you?" hi
  21. starshina pv
    starshina pv 19 November 2015 12: 10
    0
    correctly noticed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to water in a cesspool !!!!!!!!!!!
  22. Mihail55
    Mihail55 19 November 2015 12: 12
    +2
    Not bloodthirsty, but for! This measure should not affect - woman ... man. Maybe at least it will somehow clear the brains. Yes, and sorry for the guys who catch these reptiles.
  23. miroag
    miroag 19 November 2015 12: 13
    +1
    And for me, so life-long without the right of pardon will be worse than a tower. And the sheep are full (I'm talking about human rights defenders)
    1. Vladimir71
      Vladimir71 19 November 2015 16: 13
      0
      This is good for convicts, but for comrades-in-arms when they know that they are dead in any case, this is not a phantom stimulus for monrazh, but by its nature, a person is weak before an inevitable challenge.
  24. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 19 November 2015 12: 14
    0
    A good terrorist is a dead terrorist. Well done Yevkurov.
  25. Benya krik
    Benya krik 19 November 2015 12: 14
    +1
    Good Lord! How many more must die, what would this law be adopted. The death penalty is an awesome deterrent, and now this issue is as urgent as possible.
  26. v1tz
    v1tz 19 November 2015 12: 15
    0
    This will be an adequate deterrent ...
  27. prishelec
    prishelec 19 November 2015 12: 18
    0
    Yes, they are not taken prisoner anyway, neither in exceptional cases, nor in any other situations.
  28. individual
    individual 19 November 2015 12: 24
    0
    ISIS adherents have no deterrent.
    It is necessary to help them leave for another otherworldly factor.
  29. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 19 November 2015 12: 25
    0
    Go sort it out in the field who committed the crimes, and who just runs around with the gun, ready to pull the tights! The rule is good, but sometimes even from these husky information can be useful.
  30. veksha50
    veksha50 19 November 2015 12: 33
    +1
    "The head of Ingushetia, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov, proposed to extend the rule to terrorists who have committed a serious crime: "Do not take prisoner", destroy on the spot ".

    There was an interview on this topic at VO yesterday with Yakov Kedmi, who spoke harshly on this topic on a global scale ... Until the terrorists are destroyed in the territory of any state, the fight against terrorism is useless ... He took up arms and carried out an act of terrorism - you don’t even need to understand what the organization is called and who its leader is to destroy, without even understanding these currents ...
  31. nrex
    nrex 19 November 2015 12: 33
    +1
    Quote: corn
    I understand Yevkurov's statements, since he is a representative of the people professing Islam, and in Islam "an eye for an eye" prevails, and not "turn your left cheek". Adherents of Christianity, Islam and other religions, please do not bother.


    Do you see the difference between Islam and Islam?
    If there is, I would like to hear your version.
  32. Wolverine
    Wolverine 19 November 2015 12: 36
    0
    The special services have always had all the powers up to the physical elimination of all who threaten the security of the country.
  33. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 19 November 2015 12: 38
    0
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    This is a very correct thought. By the fact that feeding these scumbags at the expense of taxpayers on the pancreas in any colony, nafig is not necessary.
    The only thing you can first (if possible) to capture for some kind of information. And then eliminate.


    That's it, to catch, gut, like a crucian on the topic of secret passwords, a bullet in the head, in a pigskin and bury in a garbage can. The official version - killed during the assault.
  34. Mercenary
    Mercenary 19 November 2015 12: 38
    0
    I would have slightly changed the interpretation — to take prisoners (for operational developments), but don’t bring them to court alive, otherwise our humane will slap a quarter, and after 10 years they will have mercy.
  35. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 19 November 2015 12: 38
    0
    And in my opinion Yevkurov voiced what special services are doing now. Something I have not heard for a long time that someone was arrested, just-liquidated.
  36. wk
    wk 19 November 2015 12: 39
    +2
    Yevkurov is beautiful! as a commander and a military man who once brought troops to Pristina airport under the sights of British tanks, and as the head of the region, he seems weak.
  37. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 19 November 2015 12: 43
    0
    Interesting, and who put an article a minus?
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 19 November 2015 12: 55
      0
      Apparently a terrorist!
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    4. Mera joota
      Mera joota 19 November 2015 13: 12
      0
      Quote: Lalaika
      Interesting, and who put an article a minus?

      Ya
  38. AlexTires
    AlexTires 19 November 2015 12: 46
    0
    For some reason, I always believed that such actions are the standard. I doubt that the special services are requesting any kind of emergency in urgent cases. And when it comes to external terrorism, as our Foreign Ministry said, there are relevant articles of the UN Charter on self-defense - it is about war. But in war as in war - they could, they were captured, they could not - they did not
  39. Kupez4
    Kupez4 19 November 2015 12: 48
    0
    My opinion is that rapists, pedaphiles, and all kinds of moral pederasts should be equated with terrorists. And Igilites should be executed, and videos should be posted on the Internet so that they are afraid and trembling. And forget about morality for a while until everything calms down. And then apologize. The Yankees don't feel remorse at all.
  40. Kibl
    Kibl 19 November 2015 13: 15
    0
    That's right! If, during a special operation, by some miracle, the bandit survived, then quickly conduct a trial and still put the ghoul against the wall!
  41. 1rl141
    1rl141 19 November 2015 13: 16
    0
    Quote: Sheikh
    hot Caucasian guys; It is of fundamental importance to detain any criminal, and even more so a terrorist, alive and having the opportunity to testify, including about the organization and organizers, and the new testimony of criminals sentenced to a term or life imprisonment about the nature of their ties once again emphasizes the undeniable correctness of the abolition of the death penalty.
    all - IMHO.

    Of course, captured terrorists must be questioned. Establish their ties, lists, appearances, passwords. And do this as much as this terrorist will give new information. Even a year or two. And then, when he has nothing to say, he will hang himself while trying to escape.
  42. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 19 November 2015 13: 20
    0
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Quote: Lalaika
    Interesting, and who put an article a minus?

    Ya

    Why didn’t you like her so much?
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    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 19 November 2015 13: 49
      0
      Quote: Lalaika
      Why didn’t you like her so much?

      see my post above.
  43. hohkn
    hohkn 19 November 2015 13: 23
    +2
    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: Temples
    they must also be recognized as terrorists



    At least - accomplices of terrorists, and solder the article for 25 years... Then they will think - to be "human rights defenders" or not ...

    I agree, but not just sitting and eating taxpayers' money (our money), but with mandatory involvement in labor - from 8.00 to 20.00, with one day off per week, and 90% of earnings - to the budget. Did not comply with the norm - feeding once a day.
  44. antiexpert
    antiexpert 19 November 2015 13: 29
    0
    to the point it is said - as in Nord-Ost, so that the "terrorists" do not accidentally burn the specialist)))
  45. Velizariy
    Velizariy 19 November 2015 13: 52
    0
    Quote: Good AAAH
    Do you remember Christ's parable "The Prodigal Son"?

    I remember. I. Note, I am not saying that Kadyrov is bad, but only talking about the past affairs of two people.
    And about Kadyrov’s repentance and his loyalty, one should not draw naive conclusions either. The Caucasus is even thinner than the East.
  46. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 19 November 2015 15: 36
    0
    Revive the article on the death penalty. And not with the help of any injections there, but use shooting. A m. gallows? guillotine? crucifix?
    Of course, this will not be very humane, incl. and shooting, but JUST.
  47. mamont5
    mamont5 19 November 2015 16: 16
    0
    “It’s difficult to talk about the humanity of such decisions when it comes to the lives of civilians, about the children, women, old people who these nonhumans kill”

    It is not a matter of humanity, but of obtaining information that no one has canceled. And after the devastation of this individual, it is possible at a cost.
  48. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 19 November 2015 17: 57
    0
    Quote: demo
    And who said that ours relied "on chance"?
    After all, is there a variant of what they eat?
    Therefore, the boat was simply destroyed, along with the contents.
    The ocean took its share.

    What a generous property to throw around! I wouldn’t give a life jacket!
  49. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 19 November 2015 18: 28
    0
    In war conditions, one cannot be humane to a bloody enemy. It's time to spit
    to a shameful moratorium protecting civilian killers and children. In clean and
    we will never be ours in a slick Europe, so we will be dirty for them
    barbarians - and no PACE will help us with this. And not for long be Europe
    clean at her tolerance - will soon be overwhelmed with bloody chaos, her
    she launched the killers to herself.