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German Foreign Minister: "In Vienna, it was not possible to agree on the creation of a united front against the Islamic State and Jebhat al-Nusra"

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The German Foreign Minister commented on the results of the meeting that ended in Vienna, where they discussed ways of a possible solution to the Syrian crisis. According to Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the main question was who should be considered a common enemy in Syria and which groups would be considered terrorist. At the same time, the head of German diplomacy noted that the greatest disputes are not even between the West and Russia, but between representatives of the Arab countries of the Middle East participating in the negotiation process.


According to Steinmeier, in Vienna, not everyone supported the idea that in Syria it is necessary to form a united front against the militants of the so-called Islamic State and the militants of Dzhebhat al-Nusra. This German politician said during a speech in the committee on international affairs of the European Parliament.

German Foreign Minister: "In Vienna, it was not possible to agree on the creation of a united front against the Islamic State and Jebhat al-Nusra"


At the same time, the German diplomat did not name those countries that voted against anti-terrorism actions both in relation to the IS and in relation to Dzhebhat an-Nusra. Recall that some politicians of the Arab countries of the Arabian Peninsula are still inclined to talk about supporting the same "al-Nusra", identifying it as a "moderate opposition", although this organization is one of the parts of Al-Qaida.
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 17 November 2015 07: 06
    12
    This Steinmayer is the only voice of reason there.

    He is really trying to convey simple truths to his colleagues. - Stop licking the United States, and accepted and understand that Russia needs to be friends and work.

    But unfortunately .......
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 17 November 2015 07: 08
      21
      This Steinmayer is the only voice of reason there.


      Not the only one ... smile there is still beautiful and smart as you said Sarah Wagenknekht.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 17 November 2015 07: 12
        +5
        Well, I’m saying ... Everything is with its own people. Everyone has said it is terrorists, but everyone means different groups as terrorists. And terrorists for Russia are not terrorists for NATO. And NATO is Turkey, France, well, you know who.
        All the same, Putin will not become an ally, just as Hollande will not become an ally to us. Unfortunately ...
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 17 November 2015 07: 21
          +5

          Well, I’m saying ..
          Similarly - clapping in surprise from delight ahead of time was surprising ..
          So the IS as a toolbox has not yet reached the goals set before it, and our and not ours can bomb it for another ten years ..
        2. WKS
          WKS 17 November 2015 10: 29
          0
          Quote: mirag2
          All the same, Putin will not become an ally, just as Hollande will not become an ally to us. Unfortunately ...

          Hollande will join in allies to anyone, if this will promise him the popularity and approval of the masses.
      2. Dezinto
        Dezinto 17 November 2015 07: 13
        +6
        aahhh! I was still typing - I thought that someone would notice! Yes! Not the only sane person out there, of course Sarah! - Certainly - smartie.
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      4. cniza
        cniza 17 November 2015 07: 27
        +5
        Quote: The same Lech
        This Steinmayer is the only voice of reason there.


        Not the only one ... smile there is still beautiful and smart as you said Sarah Wagenknekht.



        So, I wonder how many more victims are needed so that Europe would feel (understand) the main enemy is the United States, that without unification and unconditional disarmament of any "moderate" opposition they will be killed further.
        1. Simon
          Simon 17 November 2015 08: 21
          +6
          Europe, of course, will understand, but it will be too late. With the help of Ishilov’s suicide bombers, the whole of Europe will turn into a fiery tornado.
          1. cniza
            cniza 17 November 2015 08: 29
            +3
            Quote: Simon
            Europe, of course, will understand, but it will be too late. With the help of Ishilov’s suicide bombers, the whole of Europe will turn into a fiery tornado.



            It’s all right, only we are nearby, it will not pass us by, we must react and apply very harsh measures.
          2. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 17 November 2015 23: 15
            0
            Quote: Simon
            Europe, of course, will understand, but it will be too late. With the help of Ishilov’s suicide bombers, the whole of Europe will turn into a fiery tornado.


            Vyacheslav, and where does Europe, the author of the information clearly wrote that the Arabs did not come to an agreement.
            Something like that, colleague. hi
        2. dr. sem
          dr. sem 17 November 2015 10: 32
          0
          Ordinary indigenous hard workers Europeans have long understood everything. Yes, only the EU management scheme is designed not to support national (or European) interests, but to serve its Creator (corporations, SGA, banking clans). Europeans themselves have not managed for a long time ...
          It seems De Gaulle’s time has passed irrevocably ...
          Ahead of Europe, first - chaos (refugees, debts, the growth of poverty, etc.), and then, brought to the "handle" Europeans themselves will find a savior in the person of the new Hitler (maybe he will be in a skirt, maybe hey, this it will make no difference).
      5. hydrox
        hydrox 17 November 2015 07: 37
        +1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        there is still beautiful and smart as you said Sarah Wagenknekht


        I did not understand: how did Sarah end up in Vienna?
      6. Private IITR
        Private IITR 17 November 2015 15: 14
        0
        This Wolfstein is still a dirty trick and ameris popolis!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 November 2015 07: 17
      18
      Quote: DEZINTO
      This Steinmayer is the only voice of reason there.

      Strange, but the Germans from our site consider him a prostitute who, along with Merkel, is ready to lick Obama's butt to the pain of language.
      Yes, and Shtanmaier poured quite a few slops on Russia not long ago, but a couple of phrases were enough and Shtanmaier became well done, so what?
      This scum which should hang in a loop.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 17 November 2015 07: 23
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It's scum

        I agree, why did he suddenly become the voice of reason ?! request
        1. Dezinto
          Dezinto 17 November 2015 07: 27
          0
          Well, I don’t know ... What did you attack ... request

          I heard a couple of his speeches. He seemed to advocate reconciliation with Russia.

          Already there! In the Bundestag, he talked about being friends. So oooh - so I wrote it in sanity.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 17 November 2015 07: 46
            +3
            Quote: DEZINTO
            In the Bundestag, he talked about being friends.


            What he said in the Bundestag is for internal use (just like Sarah). And Vienna is an international body, and it is important for us that Steinmeier says THERE and Whose side he is holding.
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 17 November 2015 08: 55
              +1
              Steinmeier in order to create the appearance of democracy, freedom of opinion, etc., etc., while he is the same enemy to us as Merkel! And Sarah is chopping! Although it is not known how she would have behaved when she came to power!
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 17 November 2015 07: 34
          +6
          Quote: Vladimirets
          I agree, why did he suddenly become the voice of reason ?!

          I don’t know, ask DEZINTO
          The German Foreign Minister called "not very reasonable" the practice of introducing "black lists" by the Russian Federation

          Source: http://nvrus.org/21833-shtaynmayer-raskritikoval-rossiyu-za-spisok-nevezdnyh-pol

          itikov.html


          The new head of the German Foreign Ministry criticized Russia: Moscow took advantage of the economic problems of Ukraine

          The head of the foreign policy department of the most powerful country in the European Union considers it "simply scandalous" that Russia took advantage of Ukraine's economic difficulties for its own purposes, as well as to prevent it from signing an Association Agreement with the EU.


          Steinmeier criticized Russia for "blacklisting". Russia's compilation of a "black list" of European politicians

          Steinmeier criticized Russia for plans to start an arms race.

          - German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier criticizes the Kremlin for wanting to replenish its nuclear arsenal

          German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier criticizes Russian air strikes,
          1. Dezinto
            Dezinto 17 November 2015 07: 41
            +5
            I understood :)

            "Walter Steinmeier Criticizes Russian Airstrikes"

            , ... etc, etc - I realized ... - I really didn’t know what he was still saying, I’ll clarify

            :))
            I don’t know, ask DEZINTO


            I'm just a cat :)))
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 17 November 2015 07: 31
        +3
        And Shtanmaier poured quite a few slop on Russia not long ago


        German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier warned Russia against sole interference in the Syrian conflict.

        http://www.dw.com/ru/штайнмайер-предостерег-россию-от-вмешательства-в-сирии/a-18
        710331

        This scum which should hang in a loop.


        It will not work ... most of the EU leadership thinks also ... not enough for all the ropes.
    3. Bobxnumx
      Bobxnumx 17 November 2015 07: 30
      +4
      He may and is trying, but the United States does not need this, they are overseas, over the Americans "does not drip." American financial tycoons, together with Qatar and the Saudis, have assured and feed all this terrorism.
    4. Eragon
      Eragon 17 November 2015 08: 17
      +2
      Quote: DEZINTO
      This Steinmayer is the only voice of reason there.

      What is the "voice of reason"? An ordinary political prostitute, like all other American pop licks. Today he says one thing, tomorrow, with the same honest air, absolutely the opposite.
    5. ZU-23
      ZU-23 17 November 2015 08: 36
      0
      Whoever disagrees, let them take the fleeing Ishilovites at home, receive a bunch of terrorist attacks and think with their heads.
    6. 79807420129
      79807420129 17 November 2015 08: 57
      +8
      Shtanmeier in Germany, the same Kerry in the United States and poured slop on Russia is not enough and more will pour more than one bucket.
    7. Maxom75
      Maxom75 17 November 2015 10: 16
      0
      There is already a habit of licking, and habit is the second nature.)))
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  3. Same lech
    Same lech 17 November 2015 07: 07
    +2
    At the same time, the German diplomat did not name those countries that voted against anti-terrorism actions both in relation to the Islamic State and in relation to Jebhat al-Nusra.


    By the ear and the sun ... by the sun these countries ... so that the whole world sees their hypocrisy.
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 17 November 2015 08: 56
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      By the ear and the sun ... by the sun these countries ... so that the whole world sees their hypocrisy.

      Some countries in the Middle East, and calculating them is not so difficult. They are frankly afraid that if ISIS is cut off from the border with Turkey, then all the jackals will rush into their beautiful (thanks to oil) oases.
  4. NUR
    NUR 17 November 2015 07: 08
    +2
    Swan, cancer and pike.
    1. Darkoff
      Darkoff 17 November 2015 08: 15
      +2
      Which is to be expected. This result is a confirmation that we must continue to bend our line, developing our own coalition.
  5. lwxx
    lwxx 17 November 2015 07: 13
    +1
    Recall that some politicians of the Arab countries of the Arabian Peninsula are still inclined to talk about support for the same "al-Nusra", ranking it as a "moderate opposition", although this organization is one of the parts of Al-Qaeda. The investigator must recognize these countries as accomplices (or sponsors) of terrorism. And the same France let it make claims, although the paddlers can only cheat on the caricature again, well, or bomb the supposedly terrorist training camps. And since the data was given by the Americans, there was definitely no one there.
  6. tankovod
    tankovod 17 November 2015 07: 18
    +3
    It is obvious that Europe will not fight the mujahideen trained by the CIA. This is tantamount to Germany arresting all American intelligence officers on its territory. Washington will not allow to ditch billions of dollars spent on "moderate oppositionists" in Syria and Iraq
  7. Dimka999
    Dimka999 17 November 2015 07: 18
    +1
    Something I can’t believe that they agreed on something there ....
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 17 November 2015 07: 23
      +1
      And nobody assured you of this. They will agree only after terrorist attacks in all countries, not earlier.
      1. Dimka999
        Dimka999 17 November 2015 08: 14
        +1
        Of course. Also say that you agreed with Russia ...
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 November 2015 07: 19
    0
    Honestly, there was even no doubt that the BV countries (and the United States) would begin to tackle the theme of a united fight against terrorism. How to support what will be directed against those who feed from their hands. We will wait when the IS takes seriously CA and Qatar, and then the position will change radically. In the meantime, pecking these scumbags without any regard to the above countries.
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem 17 November 2015 10: 48
      0
      SA and Qatar will not become the target of ISIS in the near future ... "May the hand of the giver not dry up ..."
  9. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 17 November 2015 07: 23
    +3
    correctly. Everyone argues and defends their interests .... Meanwhile, people like migrants and fugitives from wars go to the geyropu ... But you can’t say by their well-fed hacks that they went for the last money ... And mostly young men ... So let the geyropa stick its head in the sand longer like an ostrich ... If the Paris attacks do not teach Europeans that it is impossible to agree with a cannibal, then all, krants ...
  10. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 17 November 2015 07: 24
    +2
    It is necessary to try to come to an agreement, but for now, in between cases, to soak in the toilets moderately and immoderately, may Allah have a headache, who should be sorted.
  11. 1goose3
    1goose3 17 November 2015 07: 29
    +2
    A negative result is the same result. The patrons of the terrorists were forced to officially "light up their faces" and now, after the Paris terrorist attack, it will be more difficult for European leaders to explain to their inhabitants their allied relations with these countries, the patrons of terrorists.
    1. Stinger
      Stinger 17 November 2015 07: 42
      0
      I agree. There will be no united front with Qatar and the Saudis. In vain they spent, or what. But publicly lit up. It is right.
  12. Old26
    Old26 17 November 2015 07: 44
    +2
    Quote: mirag2
    Well, I’m saying ... Everything is with its own people. Everyone has said it is terrorists, but everyone means different groups as terrorists. And terrorists for Russia are not terrorists for NATO. And NATO is Turkey, France, well, you know who.
    All the same, Putin will not become an ally, just as Hollande will not become an ally to us. Unfortunately ...

    In some ways, you are right. But the same Foreign Minister of Germany said that it was against the Arab countries. And the situation is when for some there are terrorists, for others there isn’t - there are plenty of them. We, Russia, for example, do not consider Hezbollah and Hamas terrorist - the West believes.

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And Shtanmaier poured quite a few slops on Russia not long ago, but a couple of phrases were enough and Shtanmaier became well done, so what? This scum that should hang in a loop.

    Listen to you - that’s how all politicians in Europe scum, because they don’t support Russia in absolutely everything. And they need, counting on the first or second in the loop. First, first, and then second.

    Do you not think that these people primarily protect the interests of their country, and not Russia? After all, based on the point of view of the West - our politicians can also be scum from the point of view of the same forum users in the West, because they do not support Europe?
    Still, we need to be careful with labels ... Politics is not only "black" and "white" - it is a huge number of shades
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 November 2015 07: 59
      +1
      Quote: Old26

      And you do not think that these people primarily protect the interests of their country

      Of course his own, evicting the Germans from municipal apartments and populating the refugees there. Isn’t they thinking about their country?
      Quote: Old26
      After all, based on the point of view of the West - our politicians can also be scum from the point of view of the same forum users in the West, because they do not support Europe?

      It’s strange, I didn’t read comments in the media of England and the USA quite a long time ago, so there they pour shit over their politicians and support Russia for the most part.
  13. sl22277
    sl22277 17 November 2015 07: 46
    +3
    We talked and fled. The question is why the fuck were going ...? These negotiations demonstrate the real positions of these countries, which are different from their false diplomatic talk.
  14. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 17 November 2015 07: 55
    +1
    At the same time, the German diplomat did not name those countries that voted against anti-terrorism actions both in relation to the IS and in relation to Dzhebhat an-Nusra. Recall that some politicians of the Arab countries of the Arabian Peninsula are still inclined to talk about supporting the same "al-Nusra", identifying it as a "moderate opposition", although this organization is one of the parts of Al-Qaida.

    This is a secret, so a secret.
    Big secret for little
    For a small company like this,
    For a modest such company
    Such a huge secret!
  15. SAM 5
    SAM 5 17 November 2015 08: 04
    0
    In Vienna, it was not possible to agree on the creation of a united front against ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra

    Cat and dog rarely get along.
  16. Support
    Support 17 November 2015 08: 28
    0
    Failed to negotiate? Well, okay. Now Russia has even more hands untied .....
  17. Old26
    Old26 17 November 2015 08: 56
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Of course his own, evicting the Germans from municipal apartments and populating the refugees there. Isn’t they thinking about their country?

    Are you sure about this or judge by the media? For example, in the same Germany there are several people I know, they live there for 15-20 years and no one is evicted. They are not satisfied with the influx of refugees, it is true (when 3000 refugee families settle in a town with 4000-200 population). They treat their government differently, in many ways they condemn, but not to the point of "all in a noose"

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    It’s strange, I didn’t read comments in the media of England and the USA quite a long time ago, so there they pour shit over their politicians and support Russia for the most part.

    I was on the censor a couple of times, this was enough for me. Comments in the media, alas, do not always reflect reality. If we take it for labor and find our domestic liberal publications, I think that in our country the actions of our government are no less watered. To say on the lines (comments) in the media that the majority supports is all fiction. 3-5 dozens of comments can not reflect the entire palette. This is the same as what I write, for example, in one of the topics, about the following response to an event, no matter what.
    "Yesterday, in our city, where more than 500 thousand people live, not just grandiose, but downright gigantic demonstrations in support (or against, it is necessary to emphasize) XXXX policy took place. I have seen this for the first time in 30 (40, 50, 60 years of life) This is something. Unfortunately, unfortunately, the corrupt media gave only a 20-second storyline and a group of 15 people. "

    Based on this comment, we can conclude that the entire or almost the entire 500th city supports (or does not support) one or another event. But in reality it will be completely different. The reality will be completely different. So, according to comments in the media, one should not draw such profound conclusions. Media and exist for manipulation
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem 17 November 2015 10: 53
      0
      I agree that the media is a manipulator. And not only in the decaying West ...
  18. Kupez4
    Kupez4 17 November 2015 09: 01
    +2
    From the beginning you have to kick your ass all moderate and immoderate, and then filter. They do not filter the attacks.
  19. Gray 43
    Gray 43 17 November 2015 09: 16
    +1
    The IG and others like him will go to those countries that will be marked on the Pentagon maps if they put a cross on Qatar there, so his calm life is over, this is a completely controlled mass, but not by their spiritual leaders, but by someone higher, who dreams all redraw the world for themselves and their interests, but they don’t see victims and grief.
  20. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 17 November 2015 09: 30
    +4
    Pay attention ... the minister seemed to tell a lot, at the same time did not say anything. Without details of the parties' proposals, his words can be interpreted as you like ...
    It seems to me personally that the SGA want to once again lead the "coalition" after the successful work of our VKS. And as such, we don’t need them ... not for that Uncle Vova climbed there to elevate the cowboys.
    If the details of the proposals of the parties are not covered, then there is a trade in details ... and perhaps a preliminary division of the future pie. Everyone wants to grab a piece. Even Japan and Australia thought to settle down ... but they were not allowed to enter the feeder like scrawlers.
  21. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 17 November 2015 09: 37
    +5
    The IS project was raised by the West to solve its problems by the hands of terrorists. The tasks of IS that it performs for the West: 1) scare the Western man in order to drive him into the "stall" of emergency laws, such as the "patriotic act" in the United States, 2) provide a direct corridor for Qatari gas to Europe, 3) create a zone of damping oil gas products, that is, to support the illegal market for these resources to maintain a low price for them, 4) to finally oust Russia from this region, 5) to send the Islamic fundamentalists freed from the fall of Syria to Russia, which is coupled with low prices for oil and gas , as well as with sanctions should lead to the destruction of the Russian economy. Thus, one can see that the existence of IS is mainly directed against Russia. The West will not back down from these goals and under no circumstances will ISIS end its existence until these goals are fulfilled. And you can be sure that they will be fulfilled. Madeleine Allbright said that the West made a strategic mistake without completely crushing and dismembering Russia after the collapse of the Soviet system, and this mistake must be corrected in order to end this stubborn country once and for all on the one hand, and on the other hand to provide Western economies with inexhaustible resources of this country, which she undeservedly got. These words are the WEST'S STRATEGIC PLAN for this century, and this must always be remembered.
  22. afrikanez
    afrikanez 17 November 2015 10: 56
    0
    "In Vienna, it was not possible to agree on the creation of a united front against ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra"
    What united front could be agreed upon if each had his own selfish interest in this matter. The next meeting of the top, that would be a mess.
  23. maikl50jrij
    maikl50jrij 17 November 2015 11: 03
    +2
    Ukrainian scenario ... or there, the Middle East. The scheme is one. Creation of numerous armed groups, necessarily with different views "on life". Bickering among themselves. The strongest survives (needed, fed). Well, since there are more than one "breadwinner", the question arises, whose leader is the spider? Here there will be no consent! Never! angry

    Regular government troops that have the right to carry weapons at any time, in any situations, are the defenders of law and order, all other armed "silhouettes", terrorists of any direction, must be disarmed (destroyed)! Until this happens, neither the dill nor the B. East will have peace ... hi
  24. vetlan19
    vetlan19 17 November 2015 11: 45
    0
    Quote: Simon
    Europe, of course, will understand, but it will be too late. With the help of Ishilov’s suicide bombers, the whole of Europe will turn into a fiery tornado.


    Valery Pyakin on the "European tornado" and the role of Iran in controlling the "old woman" after the massacre. Watch from the 13th minute.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9AwZl5nS8&list=FLfmgrJAanwCnGNTH5Q5Hu-w&index=1
  25. vetlan19
    vetlan19 17 November 2015 11: 49
    0
    Quote: dr. sem
    Ordinary indigenous hard workers Europeans have long understood everything.


    Unsubscribed to a German classmate in Germany - isn't it time for him to "lay straws" in his historical homeland-Russia in connection with the Paris events and a new wave of refugees to Europe.
    Question-Answer Pyakin V.V., November 2, 2015
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN9AwZl5nS8&list=FLfmgrJAanwCnGNTH5Q5Hu-w&index=1