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The representative of the "ATO headquarters" Lysenko said that Russia "is preparing a provocation in the Donbass to transfer documents across Ukraine to the International court of The Hague"

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The representative of the headquarters of the so-called "ATO", has not long pleased the public with his pearls about "Cheburashki-Chebureshki", Andrei Lysenko issued an information bomb. According to Lysenko, it is likely that the trial against Poroshenko and other representatives of the Ukrainian authorities could begin in the International Court of Justice in The Hague. According to Lysenko, for this “Russia is capable of provocation.”


Lysenko (quoted by 112 Ukraine):
In order to divert attention from the tragic events in Syria, where civilians are dying, the Russian leadership is preparing an international provocation against Ukraine. Its goal is to discredit the leadership of our state, to obtain a pretext for filing a lawsuit against Ukraine to the International Criminal Court in The Hague, as well as to create the basis for the exit of the Russian Federation from the Minsk process.


According to Lysenko, Russia “will go to provocation in order to guarantee itself a way out of the Minsk process”.



Lysenko:
In particular, Russia produces documentary materials about the alleged destruction by the Ukrainian military around 400 houses and 500 people, including women, children and the elderly of the village of Sokolniki, Slavyanoserbsky district, Luhansk region, which is located in a temporarily occupied territory near the demarcation line. Employees of the Federal Security Service, the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, the Investigative Committee of Russia and the “law enforcement officers of the LPR” are involved in this work.


In this case, there is only one question to Lysenko: “Mr. Lysenko, which means“about the alleged destruction"? Wasn’t the Ukrainian security forces, by order of the Ukrainian Supreme Commander, attacked the civilian objects of the DPR and the LPR? ..

Meanwhile, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Klimkin states that the Minsk process is in jeopardy. In an interview Ukraine Today Klimkin said that in the Donbass "peace will come only in the case of complete control over this territory from Kiev."

Klimkin:
We talked about this in Berlin at the ministerial meeting of the "Norman Four". We made a number of comments, I gave a series of interviews, and also called almost all my colleagues yesterday and the day before yesterday. I will continue to do this - to inform them about the events taking place, but, especially before the Council of Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the EU countries, I, of course, will inform all my colleagues about what is happening, because now the whole Minsk process, especially the withdrawal of weapons, is in jeopardy. We need to talk openly about it.


So what's the problem? Disarm the radicals, remove the weapons from the line of contact, recognize the special status of Donbass, let the people in this region decide who they want to see at the head of the republics, exchange prisoners, and it’s not necessary to talk about the breakdown of the Minsk process.
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 13 November 2015 06: 48 New
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    Ooo Lysenko chebureshki again buggy ... Where do they get such rubbish rubbish eh?

    And in general, how did he manage to say such a thing - The Hague!
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 November 2015 06: 49 New
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      Summary of the situation in Donetsk

      Everything is as before and without changes, in the sense of shelling of the same intensity - mortars, tanks, artillery (rarely, but there are), Grad MLRS (also rare, incomplete packages). And today we had a novelty, the Ukrainians screwed the NURSY on MTLB and worked for n.p. Old Mikhailovka. We landed turntables last year, so now dill imagines itself to be militants from Libya and Syria. They begin to shoot and put them on armored vehicles from NURS helicopters. Shame on such an army!
      In general, it’s not sad for anyone, but the APU now represents the level of the militia a year ago - problems with ammunition, medicine, marshmallow, uniforms, spare parts. There is also a large shortage of officers and very few who have combat experience. They are also at a loss what to expect from tomorrow.
      And on the contrary, the BCH (Armed Forces of New Russia) has ammunition, medicine, fuel, in abundance (although in Donetsk it disappeared for two days, and now in Lugansk), uniforms, and spare parts. There are enough officers with combat experience in all brigades, and if there are gaps, the KShU (command post exercises) and the platoon-company-battalion level are regularly held. If you have friends from the militia, they will confirm how they are being persecuted in training. I won’t speak for technology, you yourself understand everything. I will say that in better condition and newer than the APU. Is that there is no aviation. But the UAVs are well equipped, each team has a company of UAV operators. Each brigade is also given a company of tanks. But what is of little importance, of course, is faith in victory. The meaning is clear, for which we are fighting.
      Yesterday, November 11, and today, November 12, Ukrainians left Gorlovka alone a little, shelling and gunfire fell sharply. Of course, some hot spots remained, this is n.p. Zhovanka, n.p. Zaitsevo and the road to n.p. Mayorsk, n.p. Wide beam. But in general, this can not be compared with the intensity of battles and shellings last week.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 13 November 2015 06: 50 New
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        In Donetsk, over the past two days, the fighting has also subsided a bit. No, of course, Ukrainians do not abandon attempts to scout and storm the airport. On Wednesday and Thursday, small attacks were launched, with the support of tanks and mortars, but this can not be compared with Tuesday, when everything from the Volvo Center to Yasinovataya was thundering, late at night the whole horizon burned and attacks on the airport and n.p. Spartak were from different directions at the same time. Yesterday, November 11, Ukrainians changed the direction of attacks on Donetsk. After several hours of shelling with heavy artillery, tanks and 120 mm mortars, fighting broke out in the west of the city. APU from three directions attacked the Petrovsky district, punishers do not abandon attempts to surround the western ledge of Donetsk. After unsuccessful attempts, the shelling was repeated. There was also an attempt to penetrate the DRG. An hour later, Ukrainians tried in the forehead from the side of the n. Krasnogorovka attack the militia positions in the village of Staromikhailovka. Today the attacks were again, but only in the direction of n.p. Old Mikhailovka. In the south, it seemed to be quiet.
        The wandering self-propelled guns reappeared. In January, immediately after the start of the assault on the airport, the self-propelled gun appeared, makes one shot and moves to the next position, again after 40-50 shots. It very rarely happens, makes a shot and then after 10 seconds, and then again for about 50 minutes quietly. Typically, the BCH artillery waited and successfully covered ukrov batteries, even those who often changed their position. They could remain silent for a week and wait, and when Ukrainian gunners make a mistake, for example, being too lazy to change their position, they immediately cover ... But with this self-propelled guns the story is different, it annoyed us from January to March, it happened for 3-4 hours in a row. There was a LifeNews report from Gorlovka, where a dining room burned down near the church after shelling, and a fragment of a 155-mm shell was found during the debris analysis. I don’t know, maybe it was she, the NATO SPG. In general, it wasn’t summer, and then again, quietly, then when the heavy one arrives, either 152 mm or 155 mm.
        A lot of information comes from my relatives and acquaintances about the great arrival of equipment. For example, in n.p. Olginka, which is north of Volnovakha, has already arrived 25 tanks, 10 last week and just the other day 15. Rozovka Zap. Region., Southwest of Volnovakha, a helicopter squadron, n.p. Konstantinovka has two squadrons of helicopters, many tanks, 15 MLRS, up to 40 armored personnel carriers and 1500 infantry. And so on in many settlements. In general, the concentration of shock fists is two around Gorlovka (20 thousand infantry), one on Debaltseve (up to 5 thousand infantry) and a large Volnovakh fist (22-25 thousand infantry).
        By the way, Russian journalists, Russia1 and NTV returned again. Russia1 reported from the checkpoint near Maryinka, and NTV from the airport.
        PS In the photo, the fragments of the 152-mm shell that I found near my house.
        All patience and health!
        1. Babr
          Babr 13 November 2015 07: 08 New
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          Quote: Sith Lord
          In the photo, the fragments of the 152-mm shell that I found near my house.
          All patience and health!

          Lord As I understand it, you are from there. Can you comment on this video?
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 13 November 2015 07: 16 New
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            Quote: Babr
            Lord As I understand it, you are from there. Can you comment on this video?

            I am from Donetsk, I live 4 km from the airport. I can’t comment on the fact that they weren’t allowed, because even if I lived in Lugansk, unfortunately I am not a representative of the LPR border troops or in the LPR leadership. We have no lines with Russia in the DPR; at least I have not heard this. Always, when they ask me how to go, I advise you to go round the LPR and enter Russia directly into the DPR, there are really many hours of traffic jams on the border.
            1. Babr
              Babr 13 November 2015 07: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: Sith Lord
              I can’t comment on the fact that they weren’t allowed, because even if I lived in Lugansk, unfortunately I am not a representative of the LPR border troops or in the LPR leadership.

              Thank you. hi
            2. Good me
              Good me 13 November 2015 09: 24 New
              +5
              Quote: Sith Lord
              . We have no lines with Russia in the DPR; at least I have not heard this. Whenever they ask me how to go, I advise you to go around the LPR and enter Russia directly into the DPR, there are really many hours of traffic jams on the border.


              Here is a colleague, you are wrong or do not own the completeness of information in this matter.

              Indeed, bursts from us to you, на КПП ,можно сказать нет. Летом,они выражались в 3-4-5 (не всегда и не везде, как "попадёшь") часовое "стояние". Пущая безделица, по-сравнению с тем какие многокилометровые очереди "от ва с к нам", где "стояние" для определённых категорий ТС может исчисляться десятками часов(до суток).
              "Определённые категории",это к примеру так называемые "угольщики", или фуры-далнобои.

              Самым благополучным и "быстрым" КПП в ДНР,ребята-гуманитарщики,возившие различные "безделушки" для ополчения,для выезда с вашей стороны,называли пункт пропуска "Новоазовск"(до 6 часов). Но и там не обходилось без определённых нюансов,таких например,как "бензиновая мафия".

              Что это такое ? Это элементарные "бомбилы",занимающиеся челночными рейсами в РФ за дешёвым бензином,фактически его контробандой,поставленной на поток, с целью перепродажи.

              Вообще-то,нам бы оно и "фиолетово", но эти "дельцы",организовываясь в группы,"занимают" друг-другу очередь,пропуская подельника "в перёд",что само по себе создаёт некую напряжённость и без того не радостной атмосфере "стояния".

              Более того,на других КПП(не Новоазовск) процветает "торговля очередью",в которой промышляют в основном местные частники-таксисты. И если вы хотите "протиснуться" по-ближе в очереди, то за определённую сумму,варьирующейся от близости к КПП,вам это организуют.

              LIKE THIS...
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 13 November 2015 07: 10 New
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          Quote: Sith Lord
          For example, in n.p. Olginka, which is north of Volnovakha, has already arrived 25 tanks, 10 last week and just the other day 15. Rozovka Zap. Region., Southwest of Volnovakha, a helicopter squadron, n.p. Konstantinovka has two squadrons of helicopters, many tanks, 15 MLRS, up to 40 armored personnel carriers and 1500 infantry. And so on in many settlements. In general, the concentration of shock fists is two around Gorlovka (20 thousand infantry), one on Debaltseve (up to 5 thousand infantry) and a large Volnovakh fist (22-25 thousand infantry).

          Ha! Probably, Lysenko means that Putin personally forces to pull troops to Donbass, then ultimately makes Piglet unleash military operations. This will be a provocation.

          Многому, конечно, украинцы учатся у своих хозяев, мастеров провокации. Только даже провокацию устроить по-человечески, что-нибудь типа Тонкинского залива, Лузитании, или крейсера "Мэн". Всё как-то неумело, по-детски, местечково. Так, что белые нитки торчат отовсюду. Жаль только, что от их неумения люди гибнут совершенно настоящие...

          It would be better if they set fire to the Verkhovna Rada in Kuev ... Hitler’s experience is also held in high esteem ... And people in the Donbass would be calmer ...

          PySy. Have you noticed the main message of Lysenko’s speech? Yes, and to pillow them, and their owners in the Donbass and the Minsk Agreement ... And in general to all these Hague Tribunals. The main thing - ... while Russia is destroying civilians in Syria ... This is what needs to be driven into the heads of Dill and the whole world.

          Would kill the abomination! ...
          am
        3. asar
          asar 13 November 2015 07: 38 New
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          Sergei! Good all!
          Good luck!
          Hold on!
          Гоблины стянули кучу "железа", никак сцуки не угомонятся!
          He got in touch with his own, straining grows
          Again, apparently, the goblins want to get on the head tight!
        4. EvgNik
          EvgNik 13 November 2015 08: 45 New
          +6
          Thanks for the review of the situation. As usual - more complete and objective than by box.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 November 2015 07: 05 New
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      Сообщение от ополченца с позывным "Сыч"

      11.11.2015
      По военной ситуации: Бахмутка - за сегодня постоянные столкновения с использованием стрелкового и гранатометов по всему фронте, жаркие точки Сокольники и Желобок-29ый блокпост. Нечастые обмены минами. Попасная -Первомайск, тоже самое. Трехизбенка- Счастье, сегодня громче, чем обычно ... Противник вел обстрелы, в том числе, используя танки и минометы. Пресечены попытки проникновения ДРГ. Станица Луганская - фронт теперь не спокойный. Постоянные попытки ДРГ проникнуть к нам, активность БПЛА, и пока редкие (в течении суток) обстрелы, но все это уже довольно ощутимо. По по пытки прорыва в районе Дебальцево. Точно нечего не знаю. От Дебальцево до фронта 6-7 км. Противник занял серую зону и попытался прорвать оборону. Но силы на это были брошены маленькие (как для крупного наступления). По разным сообщениям до батальона (возможно меньше ). Скорее всего, это был просто "маневр" что бы отвлечь ополчение от занятия буферной зоны Украми. Ближе всего противник теперь к Лозовому и Санжаровке. По остальному: Как всегда я хочу заметить. Что много людей в интернете - блогеры, политологи, просто пользователи пишут много всякой всячины про Новороссию. От ХПП до "всепропало". Берите за заметку их мнения и статьи ... НО не верьте им, потом 100% разочарование! Будьте внимательны! Всем спокойной ночи и веры в победу!

      12.11.2015
      Bakhmutka Front - periodical exchanges of shelling from small arms and grenade launchers, as well as collisions using mortars, armored combat vehicles and tanks. The main clashes in the area of ​​Sokolnikov and Groove.
      Станичнио-Луганский фронт - перестрелки с использованием стрелкового, изредка гранатометы. Направление Счастья - стрелковое, гранатометы в районе Желтого применялись ББМ. За сутки 3 попытки проникновения ДРГ противника. Все 3 были рассеяны или уничтожены. Высокая активность БПЛА, один был сбит(Квадрокоптер) . Противник продолжил накапливать военную технику и живую силу в первой линии ( Бахмутка, Попасная) и во второй линии ( Лисичанск-Северодонецк- Рубежное, Старобельск, Новоайдар). Потери противника за сутки составляют 2 убитыми и 8 ранеными, уничтожен минометный(120 мм) расчет противника, а также Урал с провиантом( еда по русски). Потери ВС ЛНР за сутки - 4 раненых, серьезные повреждения получил БМП, он отправлен на ремонт. С завтрашнего дня в Республике должен появиться бензин, цена от 47 рублей."
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 13 November 2015 07: 45 New
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        Вот гад."провокации"...для передачи документов в Гаагу....Да вез провокаций там материала выше крыши.А Гаага сама не хочет ничего видеть.Вообще сама эта Гаага (в смысле суд) -были созданы,что бы оправдать агрессию против Югославии!
        1. meriem1
          meriem1 13 November 2015 10: 28 New
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          Quote: mirag2
          Вот гад."провокации"...для передачи документов в Гаагу....Да вез провокаций там материала выше крыши.А Гаага сама не хочет ничего видеть.Вообще сама эта Гаага (в смысле суд) -были созданы,что бы оправдать агрессию против Югославии!


          Yes, and no provocation needed !!! They do everything themselves !!!
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 13 November 2015 08: 44 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      Ooo Lysenko chebureshki again buggy ...

      Did one seem to me?
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 13 November 2015 15: 44 New
        +2
        Do not disgrace Homer, in comparison with Lysenko he is a crystal soul man, and in general who are familiar with this animated series will agree, Simpson, by his character, is more like a Russian, even though the screenwriter and Jew.
    4. 79807420129
      79807420129 13 November 2015 08: 53 New
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      Everything will be The Hague and Nuremberg, and all this Nazi gang will sit on the dock, only how many people still have to die to destroy these nonhumans.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 13 November 2015 11: 16 New
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        Quote: 79807420129
        Everything will be the Hague and Nuremberg and all this Nazi gang will sit on the dock,

        here is no need for the Hague! Best Markin said!
        "Мы достаточно редко реагируем на многочисленные обвинения в адрес России со стороны представителей украинской власти, но на заявление представителя администрации украинского президента Андрея Лысенко о том, что Россия якобы «готовит провокацию международного масштаба», ответ напрашивается сам. По опыту следственной работы, если преступник признает факт преступления, вспоминает детали, хотя и продолжает обвинять во всем своих жертв, значит, рано или поздно признает и свою вину", - заявил Владимир Маркин.
        "А вот мечты киевских нацистов и организаторов геноцида на Донбассе, что судить их будут в комфортной для них Гааге, – напрасны. Судить их будут в Одессе, городах Донбасса и в протрезвевшем Киеве тоже", - подытожил представитель Следственного комитета России. "
    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain 13 November 2015 09: 07 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      And in general, how did he manage to say such a thing - The Hague!

      They teach in advance, let Nuremberg not be forgotten. They all need it.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 13 November 2015 06: 50 New
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    Before the general assault on DONBASS it is necessary to blame Russia again ..... stupid logic of KIEV.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 13 November 2015 07: 22 New
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      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Before the general assault on DONBASS it is necessary to blame Russia again .....

      Сейчас ввяжутся в "генеральное сражение", получат по шее и обвинят Россию, что это регулярная армия России их там раздолбала, а не шахтёры-таксисты... In Kuyev, the text of the speech at the UN was probably written and the next rag was prepared at the UN to wave. Like that: "Вон Россия какая агрессивная, вон как у неё много всяких оружиев - ажно в Сирии пять раз всё гражданское население уничтожили! GIVE ME MONEY! Мы их разворуем и станем сильнее. И вас всех от России защитим!"
  3. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 13 November 2015 06: 57 New
    +9
    I wonder if there is a list of those who will need to be judged for their actions, statements during this bacchanalia in Ukraine? what Because people often carry nonsense, make provocations, lie by virtue of confidence in their impunity. But someone must be punished for the Maidan, and for Odessa, and for the Donbass ... request
    And if for such comrades the concept of honor consists in deceit, will they be held responsible for what has been said? After all, if you reduce it to the simple, then even life by concepts means keeping an answer for your words ...
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 November 2015 07: 01 New
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      Quote: Rurikovich
      I wonder if there is a list of those who will need to be judged for their actions, statements during this bacchanalia in Ukraine? what Because people often carry nonsense, make provocations, lie by virtue of confidence in their impunity. But someone must be punished for the Maidan, and for Odessa, and for the Donbass ... request
      And if for such comrades the concept of honor consists in deceit, will they be held responsible for what has been said? After all, if you reduce it to the simple, then even life by concepts means keeping an answer for your words ...

      Есть, следственный комитет России открыл "Белую книгу", там все преступления и фамилии исполнителей указаны.
    2. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 13 November 2015 08: 06 New
      +8
      Тони Блэр недавно на весь мир сказал, что извините, по Ливии мы ошиблись. Ответил? Колин Пауэл за пробирку ответил? За Вьетнам кто ответил? И тут так же будут отвечать... Во имя "демократии" они готовы жертвовать народами, городами и странами. Когда прилетает ответ, они недоумевают, их за что?
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 November 2015 07: 06 New
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    for this, "Russia is capable of provocation."

    В сложившейся ситуации против всяких Порошенков, Яценюков и иже с ними не надо ни какой провокации. Эти "ребята" уже столько натворили, что хватит на 2-3 суда в Гааге и трибунал за военные преступления. Это готовят почву, чтобы западная общественность не очень удивилась когда Россия подаст документы и понимала, что это "очередная провокация агрессора".
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 13 November 2015 07: 28 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      В сложившейся ситуации против всяких Порошенков, Яценюков и иже с ними не надо ни какой провокации. Эти "ребята" уже столько натворили, что хватит на 2-3 суда в Гааге и трибунал за военные преступления.

      They themselves are a walking provocation. And the prosecution sentence. They are there in Kuev, they don’t understand that they went the same way as the Georgians in 1989. Maidan, President, stole, escaped ... How Georgians wanted in the 89th Gamsakhurdia !!! He stole money, ran away, found (him, not money!), Banged. Etc. And in Ukraine this spinning top is already spinning. Мне уже интересно, как они Поросёнка, Яйценюха и Пастора объявят в розыск в Интерпол и где эти триединые отсиживаться будут - в Лондоне или в Майами?. В Майами, конечно, теплее, но зато "с Лондону выдачи нет"...
  5. Wolka
    Wolka 13 November 2015 07: 11 New
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    and you svidomye thought that everything that you had fought in the Donbass will get away with you, no, the international tribunal will take place sooner or later, war criminals should be severely punished
  6. samara-58
    samara-58 13 November 2015 07: 20 New
    +7
    Домовину вам ,бандерам", Россия готовит!!! Без музыки. Смерть фашистам! am
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 13 November 2015 07: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Samara-58
      Without music.

      Why without music? We are a cheerful people ... wink
  7. sl22277
    sl22277 13 November 2015 07: 27 New
    +6
    The Bandera-State Department of Nazi Codla has long been discredited and will sit in the dock unambiguously, in its entirety, including Lysenko, for organizing a state coup, betraying the interests of the people of Ukraine, turning their country into a US colony, mass bombing, shelling and killing of its citizens .Personally, I would destroy the Nazis, without any trial or investigation ... (Once again, I recalled such a still existing country as Dill. After all, Russia's participation in the war against ISIS, agreed with the United States, in general, transfers into the background civil war in the Donbass).
    1. Cfyz
      Cfyz 13 November 2015 12: 23 New
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      Once again, he recalled such a still existing country as Dill.
      Unfortunately there is no Dill, and Hohland, as it was, has remained, only it has become much worse.
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 13 November 2015 07: 32 New
    +2
    He can be answered as in a joke: and now whoever flogs nonsense will get on the impudent bald face!
  9. sgr291158
    sgr291158 13 November 2015 07: 57 New
    +2
    Again Moment sniffed.
  10. Pacifist
    Pacifist 13 November 2015 08: 10 New
    +5
    г-н Лысенко (что-то есть в фамилии :) исторически паскудное) выполняет операцию информационного прикрытия. Т.е. зная, что ВСУ начнут наступление, заранее готовит почву для вопля "мы же говорили!" и "мы начали действия в ответ на то, о чем всех предупреждали!". Именно так и надо воспринимать тот бред, что он несет. Учитывая различные факторы и данные, видимо, начало операции не за горами. Крепитесь парни, по ходу свидомые собрались пойти ва-банк. Учитывая уровень концентрации войск, будет очень жарко. Все таки верна фраза: Если господь хочет кого-то наказать, он лишает его разума.
  11. maikl50jrij
    maikl50jrij 13 November 2015 08: 11 New
    +5
    "С целью отвлечения внимания от трагических событий в Сирии, где гибнет мирное население, руководство России готовит провокацию международного масштаба против Украины."... Так что происходит на самом деле??? Мы "ушли" в Сирию, что бы отвлечь мир от украинского вопроса или наоборот? Вы уж определитесь там! С Климкиным. А "изготавливать" документы и не надо. Достаточно свидетельств как наших, так и забугорных хроникеров. И о Гааге разговор еще более полугода назад был! Готовьте вашу "тынь-тынь-тынь"! am
  12. press officer
    press officer 13 November 2015 08: 43 New
    +7
    Quote: The same Lech
    Before the general assault on DONBASS it is necessary to blame Russia again ..... stupid logic of KIEV.



    помнится мне есть такая примета...Лысенко вместе с кривоглазым всех обзвонили, всем уже все рассказали как будет скоро! Т.е. они просто это сами сделают и скажут коронную фразу "ну мы же предупреждали, что Россия так делать будет!" Одна фраза про 400 домов и 500 погибших наводит на мысль! Уже посчитали? Все приготовили, орудие стянули, ОБСЕ срочно уже ослепли, так что "шоу" можно начинать!
    But in vain, here (my personal opinion !!!) that you can’t do the same as we do in Syria! crying Dill was just missing in one place ... it would be more convenient to hammer on them .. and then say that it was ... belay request ну про нас же постоянно говорят, что мы типа промахиваемся мимо целей... ну вот ..накаркали...промахнулись...думали что там ИГ..а оказались "воины-киборги".. request recourse laughing And then I’m looking Bald already released after the launch of the Caliber ... something quickly .. it is necessary to repeat it urgently!
  13. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 13 November 2015 08: 43 New
    +5
    I’m thinking how are we going to look for all this shit all over Ukraine?
    1. Evgen_Vasilich
      Evgen_Vasilich 13 November 2015 11: 06 New
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      probably all over the world, just as Mishiko dumped Azerbaijan in due time, these figures have already accumulated caches in the west.
  14. Svetovod
    Svetovod 13 November 2015 08: 47 New
    +2
    And so the ukro-government has nothing to judge.
  15. AlexTires
    AlexTires 13 November 2015 09: 45 New
    +1
    APU almost with bare hands restrain 500 million Russians, armed with all sorts of “Cheburashki” with “Givi crocodiles” and “Pinocchio”, and now they are changing diapers from some lawsuit in The Hague?
    1. Cfyz
      Cfyz 13 November 2015 12: 00 New
      +2
      Diagnosis of Ukraine: cancer of the soul 2 stages.
  16. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 13 November 2015 10: 46 New
    +1
    The hat is on the thief.
  17. Obolensky
    Obolensky 13 November 2015 11: 38 New
    +1
    Для чего нам проводить какую-то провокацию, чтобы обличить преступников? Преступники сами знают, что они преступники. А Гаага... Ну что же, может быть и будет суд в Гааге, но только на скамье должны сидеть не только украинские политики, но и все остальные "западные коллеги и друзья", которые разворачивали эту войну. Без них никак.

    But in fact, why do we need some kind of Hague. Just to the wall and that’s it.
  18. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 13 November 2015 11: 46 New
    +1
    Ha ha ha On the thief the hat blazed yes
  19. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 13 November 2015 11: 51 New
    +2
    No one doubted that there would be no peace agreements. Everything that p.dor Lysenko says is already planned by them themselves. Just need to draw a line. What else to think of besides Russia? This is an already promoted brand. And materials about the crimes of the fascist junta of Ukraine in relation to the DPR and LPR have been collected for a long time, since the start of the ATO and the murders of civilians of their own country! How many rope do not curl, and the end is on the scaffold ...
  20. unsinkable
    unsinkable 13 November 2015 11: 52 New
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    The indignation to such an extent that I can not describe the actions of this paranoid with censored words.
  21. Cfyz
    Cfyz 13 November 2015 11: 55 New
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    Diagnosis of Ukraine: cancer of the soul 2 stages.
  22. major124
    major124 13 November 2015 12: 00 New
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    БЛИН,Я ПОНЯТЬ НЕ МОГУ, ОНИ ЖЕ,ЕМУ ПОДОБНЫЕ,ПИОНЕРСКИЕ ГАЛСТУКИ НОСИЛИ,"ВСЕГДА ГОТОВ" КРИЧАЛИ, СЛАВИЛИ ЛЕНИНА И ПАРТИЮ,БРАТСКИМИ НАРОДАМИ НАЗЫВАЛИСЬ...КОГДА УСПЕЛИ "ПЕРЕКОВАТЬСЯ"?
    1. SPLV
      SPLV 13 November 2015 12: 21 New
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      Quote: major124
      КОГДА УСПЕЛИ "ПЕРЕКОВАТЬСЯ"?

      Во-первых, капс надо бы выключить, а, во-вторых, перековались тогда же, когда поголовно "коммунисты" стали верующими. Рыба ищет где глубже, а перековальщики - где бабки.
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  23. mamont5
    mamont5 13 November 2015 12: 08 New
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    "По словам Лысенко, есть вероятность того, что против Порошенко и прочих представителей украинской власти может начаться судебный процесс в Международном суде в Гааге. По словам Лысенко, для этого «Россия способна пойти на провокацию»."

    Yes, there, without any provocation, there is something to condemn the whole ukrokhunta, at least for life.
  24. T-73
    T-73 13 November 2015 12: 13 New
    +1
    Maybe it’s time to stop talking about crap in the comments about dope and glitches? A completely understandable message was voiced for Poroshenko - it’s time to clean up Donbass, uncle, the toys are over. The situation is like in a famous film: either I take her to the registry office, or she leads me to the prosecutor. And they are pushing because they do not want to be on the same bench with Potroshenko. They are well aware that LDNR and the RF IC document everything that they were able to dig into the APU and battalions. And the transfer of these documents to the court is very real. And nobody knows how the case will turn. Squealed. There is only one way out - to wet LDNR so that there is no one to transmit and testify.
  25. vladimirw
    vladimirw 13 November 2015 12: 24 New
    +1
    be in the near future a big mess, the propaganda component of the war is ready
  26. Lelek
    Lelek 13 November 2015 12: 45 New
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    (The Russian leadership is preparing an international provocation against Ukraine. Its goal is to discredit the leadership of our state, to get a reason to file a lawsuit against Ukraine in the International Criminal Court in The Hague.)

    Не понял. Как можно "дискредитировать" то, что давно дискредитировало себя само? Это равносильно тому, чтобы незаслуженно г...но обозвать"вонючими испражнениями". bully
  27. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 13 November 2015 12: 58 New
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    Markin: Organizers of the genocide will answer to the Donbass

    13.11.2015 - 9: 52
    Markin: Organizers of genocide will answer to Donbass | Russian spring
    The organizers of the genocide of the Russian-speaking population in the Donbass are hoping in vain for a “comfortable court” in The Hague - they will appear before the court in Ukraine, promised the official representative of the IC of the Russian Federation Vladimir Markin.

    According to him, Russia sharply reacts to the accusations against it from Kiev, however, to the statement of the representative of the presidential administration on ATO issues Andrei Lysenko about the provocation on an international scale, "the answer is itself."

    From the experience of the investigative work, it follows that if the offender acknowledges the fact of the crime and its details, then he later admits his guilt, even if he continues to blame his victims for the crime, Markin noted.

    “But the dreams of Kiev Nazis and the organizers of the genocide in the Donbass that they will be judged in the Hague comfortable for them are in vain. They will be judged in Odessa, the cities of Donbass and sober-up Kiev, too, ”said Markin TASS.

    Recall that Ukraine accused Russia of provocation on an international scale with the aim of discrediting Kiev, creating “pseudo-evidence” for filing a lawsuit at the International Criminal Court in The Hague and withdrawing from the Minsk process to resolve the conflict in the Donbass.
  28. saturn55
    saturn55 13 November 2015 14: 02 New
    +1
    Take off the padlock vest
  29. provincial
    provincial 13 November 2015 14: 15 New
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    План "Барбаросса" у Украины практически готов,теперь идет идеологический-информационная обработка населения и Запада,затем будет попытка реализации.Возможно в конце ноября или декабря {впереди дефолт}.
  30. Yar Ga
    Yar Ga 14 November 2015 10: 19 New
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    About the allegedly destroyed village of Sokolniki
    With all responsibility: one grandmother lives there and that's it. There is no village. The Cossacks have strengthened themselves in the ruins. They are fighting. Several burned-out Beters are proof of this.
    I won’t tell you how many civilians were killed by Bandera, but several people who campaigned for the referendum killed and mined. Outdoors. In the center. They lay for several days.