Well, these are harmful Russian! Where do Ukrainians make a living?

Sometimes you want to write not an article, but such an essay. Philosophical-not-know-what thoughts. Just sit and write your own opinion about some completely imperceptible fact.




So many copies broken in Ukraine. Theoretically, I can now spread another on a plate. But I do not want. Today I just want to laugh a little. And above us, maybe. And above them.

Remember the recent initiative of several deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation about a life ban on entry into Russia for all participants of the ATO in Ukraine? I will not write about whether this is right or wrong. I will not express the opinion of one or another part of our people. What for? The people already understand everything, and have already decided everything for themselves. I think that in Russia we will not see Ukrainians with their own orders on their chests for a long time.

Not those that will come as part of some official delegations, but those who will go to 9 May to the eternal flame. Or 2 August. Ukraine has become a swear word for a long time. And the Ukrainian orders in our country - as a sign of a special abomination. But you can not wear ... Young was stupid ...

Today I am interested in another. The reaction of Ukrainian politicians to such a proposal. In particular, the ambassador of Ukraine to the USA Valery Chaly. Agree, the ambassador - not a small person in foreign policy. As a general. Only in another department.

"I could not resist. Not at the post. Excuse me. Here in the Russian State Duma they propose banning entry to Russia for life for members of the ATO. What a cynicism and mockery of common sense! As they say: from a sore head - to a healthy one! I did not have to be at the forefront. At that time, by diplomatic means, we stopped a full-scale war. ”

This is in vain. For a diplomat, endurance is like a military reaction. If this feeling is not, then die soon. And about the healer's abilities ... m-yes ... Pan Chaly, not only to the doctor, does not pull on the shaman.

How so? Russia isolates itself from the rest of the world! And do not laugh. If the murderers of Donetsk children do not come to us, we will remain in complete ... isolation. Do not pay much attention to the word “isolation”. The author had in mind just the word that you thought.

I feel very sorry for myself. And not only yourself, but all of you, Russians. This is what you need to be ghouls, so that to us, besides the participants of the Ukrainian ATO, murderers and rapists, nobody wanted to go? But somewhere there are scientists, artists, writers, directors, artists ... And to us only killers ... and if not distinguished, then there is nothing to do in Russia.

“You can bring me. And I’ll try to ensure that all Russian politicians, the initiators of this crazy idea, are banned from entering Ukraine and the United States, with all the attendant circumstances. ”

But I, too, for ... Forbid to hell. And then ride around the world as their own country house. Simple people, means, collect money, wait for holiday, and these ride. But the question is: what does the Ukrainian ambassador have to do with banning entry into the United States? Megalomania? Not sure. Rather a parallel reality.

Probably, readers do not know where it started. It’s not just the Ukrainian ambassador and some politicians who run bile through the square. I'll explain what's the matter. So, the Ukrainian long-distance driver, an active participant in the ATO, was stopped at the border in south-eastern Ukraine by Russian border guards and was not allowed into the territory of the Russian Federation. Precisely because the security of such a person in our territory, we can not provide.

Sorry, but not a diplomat or politician. Not even the owner of a bank or factory. Just drove. Taxis and taxis. And the Russian Federation has no extra police to provide security. Not even from the Russians. From the Ukrainians, whom we have on a good area will be typed. The indignation of the punisher himself, and especially Ukrainian journalists, resulted in numerous notes, articles and other rubbish in ukroSMI.

After that, on November 5, deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation from the Communist Party faction suggested that Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev make a list of participants in the ATO, for whom entry into Russia would be banned for life. They did not introduce a new law, did not organize a hearing, did not announce a nationwide discussion. Just made a proposal to the government.

Always considered our people kind and merciful. And considered himself soft. Once even a cow could not kill. Slack, in one word. But in this situation, we are a beast. Guys, where do Ukrainians earn money? What shishi to feed the family?

Not only are we blocking oxygen with a preferential stay in Russia, there are also many millions (please do not swear, I did not say that, Chaly) do not let people go. Here it is, the hidden gut of the Russian people. He pretends to be a fool and himself ...

Today, I am in favor of the entire Russian (once again I clarify, I don’t like the word “Russian.” For me, in Russia, all are Russian) the people and government of the Russian Federation. Such a decision is necessary in order to quickly restore your native state. Your favorite Ukraine. Leaving abroad to work, including to Russia, you are depriving Ukraine of working hands and feet. I do not know, maybe there are also those who work with their head left.

It is precisely from purely humanistic considerations that I, as a representative of the Russian people, ask deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Russian Federation to adopt a law banning the entry of participants in the ATO to Russia. It is the participants of the ATO as the vanguard of the Ukrainian people will restore the economy of Ukraine, dig up new oil and gas wells, climb into closed mines and destroyed chemical plants. It is impossible to deprive the fraternal state of the most active part of fighters for independence.

It always amazes me when an official, invested with sufficiently large powers and admitted to many state secrets, is engaged as a boy in self-promotion on the Internet. But it amazes me even more that for some, including our officials, this has become the norm. PR can I ... PR can any person, except politician, official and military. These are service people, and any of their actions was and will not be personally an act of a person, but an act of a state official. The man of the state.

And since I am a private person, I will answer the Ukrainian state in the person of Ambassador Valery Chaly as just a face. And FIG knows him ... FIG knows him where Ukrainians have to earn. This is not my business. The main thing is that there will be no such earnings for them. Ukraine tse Europe? So go ahead ... Compete with refugees from Arab countries.
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  1. Vladimyrych 13 November 2015 05: 58 New
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    And where do Ukrainians earn a living?
    But what doesn’t work in Europe? Ahh how insulting that ... Galactic scale hail lol
    In general, it is necessary to seriously understand who can enter the territory of Russia and who should give a kick back at the border.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich 13 November 2015 06: 10 New
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      Sometimes you want to write not an article, but such an essay. Philosophically-I don’t know what thoughts. Just sit and write your own opinion about some completely inconspicuous fact.
      Sometimes you want to wake up, and not read and hear about the Outskirts all day ...
      1. RU-Officer 13 November 2015 08: 32 New
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        Andrei Yurevich:
        Sometimes you want to wake up, and not read and hear about the Outskirts all day ...

        No sooner said than done! fellow Forward - to the cottage (or at least to the yard - someone like repeat ) Stir the skewers on the frost, but under a hundred or two! .. drinks In the morning he snarled - all day free! wink And although this is not a departure from problems, it’s so nice! hi
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        2. Oman 47 13 November 2015 09: 06 New
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          Already saliva flowed ... belay
          I envy white envy having such an opportunity.

          The ban on entry into the Russian Federation of the so-called “ATO participants” I SUPPORT with all 5 limbs.
          At least for the reason that in the Russian Federation there are enough of their own criminals and murderers. request
          Like the mentally disabled ...
          1. Nicholas C. 13 November 2015 15: 00 New
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            Khokhloberdera banned the entry of a huge number of Russians.

            And then forbid them themselves for what? Just think, they burned people alive, women, children, old people were bombed, killed, raped ... Well, they weren’t, they were air conditioners ...

            It is necessary to transfer these people entering LNR directly. They will figure out who their hto is.
          2. gladcu2 13 November 2015 18: 38 New
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            Oman 47

            On the one hand, it’s fair to ban entry. But on the other hand, stupid.

            Do you remember Sasha Bilogo. This is ideological. He did things faster than he thought. Where is he now?

            Among participants of anti-terrorist operation there are a lot of such here. Truly dangerous, dumb nerds.
            There is even a bunch of "embroidered" in the expression "cockroach." Which will come, but later.

            Most likely, such a ban is needed for a period of 5 years. To avoid and punish.

            This hysteria will go in Ukraine. Need time. As in life, someone more, someone less.
            1. kotvov 13 November 2015 19: 13 New
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              Most likely, such a ban is needed for a period of 5 years. To avoid and punish. ,,
              war crimes have no time limit.
              1. OlegLex 14 November 2015 20: 59 New
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                Their crimes do not have a statute of limitations, so let them come, let's meet!
            2. uragan114 13 November 2015 22: 24 New
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              “There’s even a bunch of“ embroideries ”in the expression“ cockroach. ”Which will come, but later.

              Most likely, such a ban is needed for a period of 5 years. To avoid and punish. "

              Have you seen photos of old farts in the form of UPA with MP 40? How many years have passed, but they did not understand anything.
              So the ban on entry should be lifelong, with no options. Otherwise, many years later, we will look at other old farts in the form of UPA from AK-participants of the ATO
              1. scout 13 November 2015 23: 28 New
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                In order not to look at the UPA form with AK many years later, they must be completely destroyed and without turning, without liberal snot and democratic fairy tales about re-education. Otherwise, sooner or later they will crawl out of their holes.
                1. efimich41 14 November 2015 09: 15 New
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                  uragan114 RU Yesterday, 22:24 PM ↑ New

                  “There’s even a bunch of“ embroideries ”in the expression“ cockroach. ”Which will come, but later.

                  Most likely, such a ban is needed for a period of 5 years. To avoid and punish. "

                  Have you seen photos of old farts in the form of UPA with MP 40? How many years have passed, but they did not understand anything.
                  So the ban on entry should be lifelong, with no options. Otherwise, many years later, we will look at other old farts in the form of UPA from AK-participants of the ATO


                  I completely agree with your offer. If I.V. Stalin had not sent Bendera to places not so remote, but destroyed them all, or at least gave them all life sentences, today Ukraine would be a normal state. I put a "+".
                  1. severniy 14 November 2015 18: 17 New
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                    It always amazes me when an official with enough powers and admitted to many state secrets is engaged, as a boy, in Internet self-PR

                    gee and our wedmedik got under the hot hand laughing .
                2. boggy 14 November 2015 20: 27 New
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                  EXACTLY!
                  It will not work otherwise.
            3. OlegLex 14 November 2015 20: 57 New
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              Their crimes have no statute of limitations, so don’t come in five years, we will meet them here.
            4. Mikhail3 15 November 2015 12: 33 New
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              Among participants of anti-terrorist operation there are a lot of such here. Truly dangerous, dumb nerds.
              There is even a bunch of "embroidered" in the expression "cockroach." Which will come, but later.

              And the children they kill will stand up? "Later"? BUT? The old people who died, some from their bullets, some from hunger, how are they, will the late awareness of ghouls greatly help them? I’m like, you know, completely along the trouser leg, Sashko Bily would have realized “later” or not. He deserved his bullet more than completely. And these creatures should never cross our border. And if crossed - they should be judged, and judged mercilessly. We don’t need any correctional work from them, and it’s unnecessary to feed them in our prisons.
              Donetsk Madonna has already passed a sentence ...
          3. Suhow 14 November 2015 16: 26 New
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            I, from Ukraine, don’t understand Pan Chaly, won’t look over Ukraine for the appearance of Russian-Terrorist warriors, and then go to wagons until they say no to europa, it’s necessary to prohibit active Atovs (volunteers) from going abroad in Ukraine. let the patriots live in what they have done, and pratsyyut here for the benefit of Nenko, otherwise it doesn’t turn out good for me to tighten the belt after their next “short” belt, and fighters like for my better life will take away rich breads ?? no, let them first of all taste the fruits of their labors. And what tax attention do you pay special attention to, what kind of chicks do you live in? And then show publicly on TV that some ordinary and not too fighters live very poorly at low incomes ...
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            The ban on entry into the Russian Federation of the so-called "ATO participants" SUPPORT

            Well, no, don’t forbid, let them drive in. And here they are judged as war criminals!
          5. Marconi41 16 November 2015 01: 19 New
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            Quote: Oman 47
            in the Russian Federation and their criminals and murderers enough.

            Any combatant has mental disabilities. Over time, this passes, but for everyone it is different. So you are right - they have nothing to do here.
        3. NIKNN 13 November 2015 20: 30 New
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          RU-Officer (1) SU Today, 08:32 AM

          No sooner said than done! fellow Forward - to the cottage (or at least to the courtyard - someone like feel). Stir the kebabs in the frost, but under a hundred or two! .. drinks In the morning he snarled - all day free! wink And although this is not an escape from problems, it is so nice!


          One snout is boring, but in the company, though obscene, but whoever remembers. good
      2. mirag2 13 November 2015 08: 37 New
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        Sometimes you want to wake up, and not read and hear about the Outskirts all day ...
        Sorry, but not yet smile (+18):
        1. EGOrkka 13 November 2015 11: 34 New
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          ... and the funeral march performed by the masses .... it's like .... a sentence hi
        2. Suhow 14 November 2015 16: 38 New
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          until the hard workers in Ukraine unite there and they will steer different downs Svidomo or boblorvachi, and so foolish people of eleven and gave upstairs to these upstarts, for the sake of order, lack of tolerance generates permissiveness ...
        3. Your friend 14 November 2015 20: 03 New
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          Quote: mirag2
          Sometimes you want to wake up, and not read and hear about the Outskirts all day ...
          Sorry, but not yet smile

          Video nightmare, awkward animals ...
      3. Ded_smerch 13 November 2015 08: 44 New
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        if you look at Ukraine for a long time, then Ukraine begins to peer at you.

        For me, ruin is already a neurosis for the people outside this territory.
        1. marlin1203 13 November 2015 12: 21 New
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          Ukraine will not get anywhere from our borders ... as a hotbed of inflammation will plague, disturb and rot ... until it breaks through ...
          1. gladcu2 13 November 2015 19: 42 New
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            marlin1203

            Of course, Ukraine will not get anywhere from Russia. Accordingly, it is necessary to make Ukraine a friendly state, but from the position of Russia the eldest friend is comrade and brother.

            The Russian Empire would not have been created and would not have survived as such if it had not pursued a policy of equal obligations.

            I did not make a reservation, precisely from the position of equal obligations, and not right. Since RIGHTS ARE DICTATED BY RESPONSIBILITIES.

            Of course, everyone remembers the charter of the guard service. The duties of the sentry say that his rights are dictated by his duties. You can’t argue with the charter, it is written in blood.
            1. BARKHAN 14 November 2015 10: 50 New
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              I thought a lot about this topic. A lot ... What shall we do with them next? And there were more questions than answers.
              Are we still one nation? Is there a chance for us to coexist together, at least under what guise? What can this give us in general? Why do we need them at all?
              Let's look at this issue without emotion ...
              With the current generation of Ukrainians, and this is a fact, we are not brothers. Do we need their land? No, we don’t need it. We have not mastered our land. Do we need their people? Only those who want to move to Russia for permanent residence. Do we need them riches? There aren’t any riches there. Is NATO expanding on the territory of Ukraine? They won’t get there themselves, and we will "help".
              At the moment, this country with its cunning population is not needed by anyone. Everything that could be squeezed out is almost exhausted. The remaining great Ukrainians are merrily breaking through themselves.
              In its current state, Ukraine is a forty-millionth stone around the neck ... And no one wants to drag it on themselves. Wherever Ukrainians now join the EU or Russia, they will need to be fed and rebuilt. That is, to maintain at their own expense. In this case, gratitude, as you know, will not be, but only a contemptuous attitude.
              And then the question then ... Do we need it? Have we already mastered our territory? Have we created all the conditions for a decent life for our citizens? We probably have a lot of extra money and time?
              My personal opinion is ... These great neighbors need to get wet in their own ...., "environment", so to speak even deeper. Build all relations and business, as well as with other "European" states. No discounts and preferences. All temple-goers should go home, build a bright future. They again had elections, and again they chose vampires for themselves. So this life is their conscious choice.
              It’s time to understand for a long time that ours are those who live inside the state border. And only they need help. With the others only by mutual benefit.
              1. Udofil 14 November 2015 14: 10 New
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                Man is a creature very suggestible and easily reformatted. For more than 20 years, another generation has grown there. As, however, with us, in the country of the victorious Orange Revolution. Therefore, we must honestly admit that for a long time and for a long time we are two strangers, and now also hostile states and people. And do not entertain yourself with illusions.
        2. Cherdak 13 November 2015 17: 40 New
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          Quote: Ded_smerch
          if you look at Ukraine for a long time


          But do you know how they themselves imagined Ukraine only 10 (!!!) years ago in full strength?
      4. Sterlya 14 November 2015 19: 56 New
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        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Sometimes you want to wake up, and not read and hear about the Outskirts all day ...

        So I have long been proposing a moratorium on news from the outskirts. for a month at least. How nice
    2. Slavapom 13 November 2015 12: 31 New
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      Yeah. And also let the guys from Ukraine sort it out and decide finally whether they are at war with Russia or not. And somehow it is not clear, "Russia is an aggressor, there is a warrior with Russia," and right there Russia does not allow ATO fighters to earn money on its territory.
    3. vell.65 14 November 2015 12: 03 New
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      How to get Ukrainians to Geyropa is very simple - all you need is to marry the Geyropeys and the family will slowly move to work, but what kind of job they will find after the refugees take up delicious jobs, this is another question. laughing
  2. apro 13 November 2015 06: 03 New
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    The Ukrainian theme is becoming irrelevant and is being carefully heated both on the other side and we have enough clever people, Ukraine is Russia and the unification of our divided people will take place. Everyone is afraid to say the obvious that Ukraine without Russia has no future, and Russia without Ukraine will face its brothers in deadly fight sooner or later. Depressing is the lack of an official position on our divided people, and all these restrictions proposed by the Red Spears in the Duma contribute to our separation, we thought better how to promote sane and aggressive leaders capable of leading the inhabitants of Ukraine to the fold of mother Russia.
    1. domokl 13 November 2015 06: 18 New
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      Quote: apro
      all of these restrictions proposed by the Red Spears in the Duma contribute to our separation, we thought better how to promote sane and aggressive leaders who could bring the inhabitants of Ukraine to the fold of mother Russia.

      Often I read this point of view. Liberals very often say so. Outwardly, everything is true. Poor Ukrainians made another nation. and they are we ...
      And then what about the killed people in the Donbass? How to relate to art by city? What shoot stubborn nezalezhniki? Or in the media? Are there also some journalists who come from Western countries?
      Alas, the position of the main part of the population of Ukraine made it possible to raise animals for which human life does not mean anything. For which even their own parents are enemies. Everything Russian is a priori hostile.
      And you propose to return these people to us? What for? We have few problems? Do we need more problems with warriors who have drunk blood and are now reveling in their own impunity?
      Ukraine still has a long reorganization. with bloodletting, with crying mothers and wives. With orphans. And anyway. who would not win in the end.
      1. apro 13 November 2015 06: 30 New
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        Liberals very often put it that way

        The liberals will be happy if the Russians kill the Russians, this is their main task, shouting Putin, send troops or Putin has leaked Novorosia to warm up the fratricidal war. Of course, we can say what they did and we did not, but the cards fell out and the game continues and we must win preferably less bloody, to continue to live together and not look at each other through the sight. Overcoming the consequences of the civil war is a difficult process, but it will have to be passed if we are reluctant to finally disintegrate and dissolve in time as a people.
        1. domokl 13 November 2015 06: 42 New
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          Quote: apro
          Liberals will be happy if Russians kill Russians,
          Sorry, but I do not agree. On the contrary, most of our liberals are in the position of ending the war. And you know that. It is necessary to stop helping the Donbass, it is necessary to transfer control over the border to Ukraine, it is necessary to force the Donbass to agree to live according to Ukrainian laws. These are the cornerstones of Russian liberal thought.
          After all, they are the ones who most of all shout about Russia's participation in this war. It is they who publish fakes about armored buryats.
          You confuse radicals such as Girkin and liberals. Girkin calls for the introduction of troops. And these are exactly the opposite. And they blame us for the troubles of Ukrainians.
          And about the last thesis ... Yes, we are dissolving for the second millennium ... Like the Chinese or the Indians. Overcoming the consequences of the civil war is not so much a task for Russia as for Ukraine. Contradictions and hatred among former Ukrainian citizens are going wild. And it is very doubtful that you can just agree. I already wrote and remain with my opinion, Ukraine will face the fate of Yugoslavia. And there’s nothing to be done about it .. Rubicon passed
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            Not to our liberals what they say they will broadcast from wherever possible, who will also understand our enemies in the person of SGA. Dissolution, if we lose the battle for Ukraine is a step into the abyss. What I pour into the heads of the citizens of Ukraine they say so they and act, this can be overcome by creating a common world for us. The reunification of our peoples awaits Ukraine and nothing else.
            Quote: domokl
            Rubicon passed

            Shalish, we’ll still hang out.
          2. andr327 13 November 2015 09: 23 New
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            and now the most interesting thing: whatever the government and the leadership of the country would do, the liberals will say what is wrong. all wrong. everything is lost!
            1. Referent 13 November 2015 20: 06 New
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              andr327 SU Today, 09:23 ↑
              and now the most interesting thing: whatever the government and the leadership of the country would do, the liberals will say what is wrong. all wrong. everything is lost!

              Liberals - in the arrogant, red faces ..... am
          3. Belousov 13 November 2015 12: 26 New
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            Sorry, but I do not agree. On the contrary, most of our liberals are in the position of ending the war. And you know that. It is necessary to stop helping the Donbass, it is necessary to transfer control over the border to Ukraine, it is necessary to force the Donbass to agree to live according to Ukrainian laws. These are the cornerstones of Russian liberal thought.

            And this will just lead to new aggression ukrovoyak against Donetsk and Lugansk. Or do you think that they will continue to live peacefully, in the craters from the shells the National Battalions will plant flowers, and the pro-villagers will carry out construction tools and they will begin to restore the destroyed houses? After the escalation of the conflict, it will be impossible to not intervene, for they will cry out that Putin has worn out and the damage to the rating will be substantial. So the statements of the liberals to end the war are nothing more than a request to throw them in a thorn bush. Their mother is a war, otherwise there will be nothing to receive money from behind a puddle.
            1. gladcu2 13 November 2015 19: 57 New
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              Belousov

              What, the escalation has already begun?

              Wait. The Russian Federation has already shown its capabilities. The Russian Federation is a guarantor. This is taken seriously.
          4. Belousov 13 November 2015 12: 26 New
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            Sorry, but I do not agree. On the contrary, most of our liberals are in the position of ending the war. And you know that. It is necessary to stop helping the Donbass, it is necessary to transfer control over the border to Ukraine, it is necessary to force the Donbass to agree to live according to Ukrainian laws. These are the cornerstones of Russian liberal thought.

            And this will just lead to new aggression ukrovoyak against Donetsk and Lugansk. Or do you think that they will continue to live peacefully, in the craters from the shells the National Battalions will plant flowers, and the pro-villagers will carry out construction tools and they will begin to restore the destroyed houses? After the escalation of the conflict, it will be impossible to not intervene, for they will cry out that Putin has worn out and the damage to the rating will be substantial. So the statements of the liberals to end the war are nothing more than a request to throw them in a thorn bush. Their mother is a war, otherwise there will be nothing to receive money from behind a puddle.
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            liberals only shout that they are for the position of ending the war, but in reality they are only for and try to ignite it by all means.
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            "... Alas, the position of the main part of the population of Ukraine has allowed to raise animals for which human life does not mean anything. For which even their own parents are enemies ..."
            This is the "highlight" of Ukraine! And with the development of all relations between Ukraine and Russia, in no case should we forget about it! No matter how many decades have passed ... no matter how good our relationship may become ...
            Maybe I'm blind and deaf ... but it wasn’t even five years ago, there was a debate about orientation to the EU or Russia, and Western Ukraine hated Russians (and the entire population of Donbass) But to brainwash the whole of Ukraine and put a small part on the position "my hut from the edge ..." even in a nightmare could not have been imagined!
            Thanks to Domocles for both posts above! I completely agree with them!
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            On the contrary, most of our liberals are in the position of ending the war.

            Rejoicing and falling into a victorious dance whenever a Russian is killed somewhere. And better - a whole Russian plane. Holiday with the liberals!
            It is necessary to stop helping the Donbass

            In conditions when Poroshenko’s eagles are pumped up with money. That is, tied loans - strictly for war. With money, trainers, equipment, equipment, weapons ... all this flow of aid for the war is growing and growing, and Donbass should stop helping. Yeah ...
            you need to make Donbass agree to live according to Ukrainian laws

            And since the Donbass does not want to flatly, we need to ... shoot it. For liberal-humanistic purposes. Lightly. Well, there to kill one hundred two hundred thousand people. You look - the rest and "agree." And do not agree - still shoot. Such is the end of the war from humane liberals. As usual, a bloody puddle from the roof of the murdered unarmed people uncontrollably spreads from under the liberal. At first he kindly stops helping them, and then he comes with a Serbosek. We saw, we know.
            Oh, nausea ...
        2. EvgNik 13 November 2015 07: 45 New
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          to continue to live together and not look at each other through the sight

          Question: Do they want to live together? Or does the desire to join Europe conquer all the same? And if Ukraine does not want to be a fraternal people, then force it?
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            We are all able to pose questions both tricky and not very, but in Stalin's terms it sounds like you pose a question, offer a solution, offer a solution, take responsibility, take responsibility, be ready and answer to the party and the people, the party is now gone but you have to answer before the future of our people. Ukraine wants peace and stability of order and the rule of law and material well-being, it’s okay to offer her a detachment from Russia and it will be like in Europe, Russia, represented by the leadership, has not reacted in any way since our defeat, there were objective problems with dependence on the West, but now it’s a question or Russian the world will live or slowly shrink to the limits of the specific principalities. Strength is needed but the strength of the spirit, the strength of the word to be believed again in Moscow.
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          It is not enough to win, it is necessary to keep and keep the victory.
      2. vladimirZ 13 November 2015 07: 44 New
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        And you propose to return these people to us? What for? We have few problems? Do we need more problems with warriors who have drunk blood and are now reveling in their own impunity?
        Ukraine still has a long reorganization. with bloodletting, with crying mothers and wives. With orphans. And anyway. who would not win in the end.
        - domokl

        These participants, the “heroes” of the ATO, will need to be, if you don’t want to clear, in spite of any tears and cry.
        At one time, they did not clean up Bandera after the Great Patriotic War, regretted it, even rehabilitated someone, released ahead of schedule, and now they gave a new shoot that crushed the whole of Ukraine.

        And probably no one doubts that this will have to be done. The Bandera Nazis will not sit in their square, they will still trample on us.
        But the eternal ban for "participants of the Ukrainian anti-terrorist operation" to enter Russia, long had to be done by our legislators, as they say, "yesterday", which would be a sobering and restraining factor for many from their participation in this criminal anti-terrorist operation.
      3. Oman 47 13 November 2015 09: 18 New
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        In your opinion, how much time should residents of the Great Skakunia cook in their own bloody cauldron?
        Are you sure that the process of "rebirth" in the norm will be decided by itself? From the West, the impact on the "minds of Ukrainians" continues; the picture is already clinical ... hi
        At least 2 generations, i.e. - 40 years; if left to chance.
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        who would not win in the end.



        ...... all the dramaturgy is precisely in this! ....... why it was impossible .... to live normally .... how did they live? .... because how to live normally ... how did they live .. .. it was already .. IMPOSSIBLE ... but to live better ..... hi like EVERYTHING!
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        domokl

        Do you want blood feud? Maybe the determinant is who is your bloodline? See do not make a mistake. Because of your mistakes, others may suffer. And you will be outlawed.
    2. vladimirw 13 November 2015 12: 44 New
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      And so I will answer: It is necessary to apply the criminal code to the participants of the ATO (and in fact the members of the gangs who killed people), we seem to have an article on the account of the genocide!
    3. Udofil 14 November 2015 14: 17 New
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      If we unite, we will once again warm up a potential traitor at our place. You don’t need to follow examples, just read about the history of the relationship between these territories and Russia. Not everyone wanted accession to Russia, and maybe Bogdan himself simply intrigued and maneuvered until he cut off his path to retreat. And frank betrayal began with his son and continued until the 90s. 20th century, especially in difficult times for our homeland. And they are also proud of it. Truly “heroes” glory!
  3. domokl 13 November 2015 06: 05 New
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    Yes, they can’t do it anywhere. It’s simply because they still don’t understand why they began to treat them like that ... Why are killed peaceful “quilted jackets” more important for Russians than the independence of Ukraine. God be their judge. But we do not need such Gaster. we can handle it ourselves
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    Compete with refugees from Arab countries.

    Arabs are not going to work. They came to live on benefits. So Ukrainians are beyond competition. Unless ATO invalids will claim for the benefit.
    1. The Chat 13 November 2015 10: 36 New
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      So compete for benefits, as any ATO participant is already mentally disabled!
      Do you think the "heroes of the ATO" want to work?
      Certainly not!
      They want a "hut, stakes and padded jacket" and sit under a cherry and do nothing. Rest after the works of the righteous to destroy her ....
  5. dvg79 13 November 2015 06: 57 New
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    I don’t understand what kind of entry? Are we fighting with them? wassat
    1. Vladimirets 13 November 2015 07: 38 New
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      Quote: dvg79
      We are at war with them

      This is a hybrid war, in such a war is allowed to work with the occupier. smile
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        ahhhh someone will explain to me what a "hybrid war"!?! ??! This is when there is no enemy but will we still bomb and bear losses?
  6. Wolka 13 November 2015 06: 57 New
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    and why the author so painstakingly messed up the paper, it’s not clear to me to fill my soul, and in general, there is such folk wisdom, “before you solve other people's problems, learn to solve your own first,” but they also say “someone else’s pain doesn’t hurt” is all that that why Russian citizens should not eat, drink or sleep, but think about the Ukrainians, where and how they earn their living, and how to live in general, or again convenient and beautiful "we are brotherly nations." It may be fraternal peoples, Slavs born from one mother, but apparently our paths are different ...
    1. Udofil 14 November 2015 14: 23 New
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      Exactly, our problem is to take back the fallen lands for free from the saloids. Give Ukraine the borders of 1654 !! And about the "brothers" you better read with your bastard poet))
  7. Military Builder 13 November 2015 07: 13 New
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    I am in akhuyu (this is the most decent thing that occurred to me) from the arrogance of Ukrainians: “we will never be brothers”, “yaku gilyaku” and many others etc. and right there, they should give gas without payment, forgive debts, provide work.

    PS. I read somewhere: A condom is a one-time contraceptive, but gandon is forever.
  8. Born in USSR 13 November 2015 07: 18 New
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    They are going to work as far as running. I myself met such and for some reason from the west Khokhloma. In Russian they don’t understand anything. Two were at the ATM and looked at him in amazement. Mench was asked why it is not written on the mov. . Let them sit and raise their economy. Or go to a geyropu. There for the Arabs to clean up the garbage.
    1. I read the news 13 November 2015 11: 32 New
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      In Russian they don’t understand anything. Two were at the ATM and looked at him in amazement.


      Crimean-daughter-officer? Is it not so clear here in Britain?
    2. Stena 13 November 2015 13: 25 New
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      You first learn to write correctly in Russian, otherwise in the USSR this was what you were taught first. And then lie about the fact that Ukrainians do not understand Russian ...
  9. parusnik 13 November 2015 07: 22 New
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    Figs knows where Ukrainians should earn.... In the EU .. Ukraine is the same Europe ... Che to go to cotton .. When they sober up .. maybe to us ..
  10. rotmistr60 13 November 2015 07: 30 New
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    What cynicism and mockery of common sense!

    Full paragraph. This is what Ukrainians are used to when they are poked by the United States and Europe in everything and everywhere, that they consider this to be the norm and duty of other countries. The parasitic lifestyle of the Ukrainian became commonplace for them.
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      rotmistr60

      Where are you in Ukraine looking for common sense? There are Western values.

      The other day there was an article on VO about the "Russian soul".

      I could not speak out. So the "Russian soul" is a synonym for common sense.

      And everything else is Western values.

      I exaggerate a little, but the truth is near.
  11. press officer 13 November 2015 07: 31 New
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    I don’t understand what kind of entry? Are we fighting with them? wassat


    so how ?! Didn't you know the "customs of the aggressors"? this is usually the case - the aggressor usually helps the refugees of the country with which he is fighting, also supplies gas, oil, coal and further on the list according to the "aggressor", which usually requires the "injured" side. And always with discounts! It’s also customary that the aggressor receive refugees, feed, drink and support them! These are the pies ... with vermicelli ...
  12. killganoff 13 November 2015 07: 49 New
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    Correctly - Russian. Russian (Russian) - not true!
    It's like a flag. Russian flag, not Russian.
  13. Tanker55 13 November 2015 08: 36 New
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    I put the article PLUS. It is written in simple clear words, but it is difficult to read (this is my opinion). good
  14. Charon 13 November 2015 08: 45 New
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    In Africa, there are dofig diamonds, they will be rich, with dollars and a batley ride. laughing Eh ...
  15. Russia 13 November 2015 08: 48 New
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    “And I’ll try to prevent all Russian politicians who initiated this crazy idea from entering Ukraine and the United States, with all the ensuing circumstances.”

    But this exhaust (not to be called by draggma), in my opinion, pulls on "persona non grata".
  16. beer-youk 13 November 2015 09: 15 New
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    The parasitic lifestyle of the Ukrainian became commonplace for them.


    Their whole history clearly proves that this is not a way of life, but the basis of a national character.
  17. anip 13 November 2015 09: 17 New
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    Remember the recent initiative of several deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation on a lifelong ban on entry from Russia for all ATO participants in Ukraine?

    A year ago, it was still necessary to do so. One could also add “Maydans” and those who in Odessa “had fun”, and indeed all but the Donbass.
  18. solovey 13 November 2015 09: 33 New
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    I personally do not mind the Ukrainians, with their tacit consent, terrible things have been going on and going on !!!
    And about where they will earn - this is not our problem at all !!!
    1. I read the news 13 November 2015 11: 44 New
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      With the tacit consent of the Russians, thousands of enterprises went under the knife, with the tacit consent of the Chubais privatization, with the tacit consent, millions were stolen and exported abroad, with the tacit consent of one regiment took the city. Continue? Why are you so pitiful, silent and consonant?
      1. Travian 13 November 2015 12: 43 New
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        We were not silent. WE openly spoke on the parade ground to the district commander that Yeltsin-, but Grachev dibil .... in 1994,1995.
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          What? Did it help? Shout?
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  19. Dimon-chik-79 13 November 2015 10: 00 New
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    I personally do not mind the Ukrainians, with their tacit consent, terrible things have been going on and going on !!

    And not with the tacit consent of thousands of people innocently perished in the dungeons of the NKVD? But was it not with tacit consent that Soviet citizens were shot in Novocherkask?
    Yes, peaceful protests at gunpoint are very difficult! And if you remember, the Ukrainian people did not keep silent: Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Kherson, Odessa and even Kiev. But the protests were crushed, activists were thrown into prison, others were simply killed, and in Odessa they were massively and exponentially burned! There were a huge number of rallies, protests, at which, inter alia, they asked for intercession and protection from Russia. But Russia, for one reason or another, could not help all of them. Thank God, although Crimea was defended and Donbass was not abandoned.
    1. Udofil 14 November 2015 14: 33 New
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      As for the "innocent dead" in the NKVD should be dealt with separately for each case. Do you believe that 20 years after the revolution against the country did not conduct subversive work? And inside there were no opponents to the new system at all? It was cruel in Novocherkassk, but maybe it was an analogue of Tiananmin Square? 40 years of a quiet life were provided with small blood? Honestly, I have not studied this issue. And all the places you listed, except Kiev, are actually Russian lands, from some fright transferred by the Bolsheviks to our "non-brothers." Which, in gratitude, they smear dung for this. To know what mood the Russian population really has there!
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      How is the NKVD related to events in Ukraine?
      In my opinion, there is nothing in common.
  20. mamont5 13 November 2015 11: 37 New
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    "I will answer the Ukrainian state in the person of Ambassador Valery Chaly"
    What is that face? This is the face! Kharya the most rabid Bandera Nazism.
  21. kit-kat 13 November 2015 11: 45 New
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    Leave no rating. It seems to be true, but "any Russian - Russian" personally offends me. For some reason, it has become the norm not to notice the Russians - there seem to be no such people (“who are they, Russians?” - you can hear from all sides). There are Tatars, Bashkirs, Buryats and so on (there is a definition for everyone), but there are no Russians. It turns out all these Tatars, Bashkirs and Buryats are Russians! For a Russian, this is a shame. Let’s already notice the Russians - the most disenfranchised people in our country!
  22. atamankko 13 November 2015 11: 46 New
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    The junta is becoming impudent, the United States approves, the IMF supports, the OSCE does not notice: you all went to ....
  23. walrus-a 13 November 2015 11: 55 New
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    The problem is that the participants of the so-called "ATO" are from two sides. And how to identify these participants? On photos with weapons on Instagram or check the "crust of the participant"? And what about those who were forcibly sent to the ATO zone and he "conscientiously" shot a clip for a clip in the white light? I believe that each crime should have its own executor with a surname, name and patronymic, and the court should determine the offender. Although it does not fit in my head how this can be done in practice.
  24. 1rl141 13 November 2015 12: 20 New
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    Quote: Dimon-chik-79
    And not with the tacit consent of thousands of people innocently perished in the dungeons of the NKVD? But was it not with tacit consent that Soviet citizens were shot in Novocherkask?

    Bad example. Here the motivation is different.
    It’s one thing when someone is arrested and it’s not clearly guilty or not. How would the court investigate the matter. What they hoped for.
    And in dill, most of the population, like donkeys for carrots, trampled into the EU. Some thought, but what? And she said nothing. Another part of the population was on the drum. They lived so well. And those who knew where all this would lead would be left so few that it was not difficult to crush.
    Something like this I see the situation.
  25. MATROSKIN-53 13 November 2015 12: 26 New
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    And who will answer me why, for Russians, entering Ukraine is strictly according to international passports, and their people enter Russia according to their internal passports ?! To the mystery of nature ?!
  26. Belousov 13 November 2015 12: 33 New
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    It’s like in a joke:
    - Mikola, send Mosk.aley to beat!
    - And if they are us?
    - And for what?
    It is high time to introduce such a ban. Since they fought so heroically with the Russian army, how do they go there to earn money, to the aggressor country ?! Let them boil in their jumping cauldron, since they should not get used to boilers. We have enough of our problems here.
  27. yuriy55 13 November 2015 13: 39 New
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    Correctly answered, nothing more ... Author, you "+".
  28. Anchonsha 13 November 2015 13: 43 New
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    What naivete is breathing from the Ukrainians, the surprise that Russia previously fed them with a spoon, despite spitting and rewriting a common history, a clear preference for Western interests, suddenly banned those who fought with the inhabitants of Donbass from entering their country. I must tell the Ukrainians that this is only the beginning of their humiliation ... the Americans will lay their heads for them, let alone contain the depraved geyropa and will be needed as long as they are able to confront Russia.
  29. Richard 13 November 2015 13: 50 New
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    This year he entered Moscow State University, at 2BO. As it turned out, Moscow State University forms target places for applicants from the Crimea, it does not matter if the first is higher or the second.

    Madame from the Crimea got into my group (I don’t know how she originally got to Crimea. Now we will not talk about the depressing level of illiteracy or the complete absence of ideas about the outside world. This, of course, struck me, but still.

    What plunged me into confusion is the fact that this frankly militant pro-Ukrainian madame, who received benefits (!) For studying at the top university (!) Of the capital (!) Of my country, as well as a hostel in addition, does not stop my country to find fault, to offer Saakashvili as president and to resent the lack of freedom of speech (!!).

    I do not consider the policy of admitting Crimeans to universities to be erroneous. From my point of view, this, on the contrary, is a very competent approach to stimulating the integration of the Crimean population. Moreover, I am convinced that Madame is an exception, not a rule.

    Nevertheless, such a characteristically “dill” approach simply unsettled me.
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  30. a housewife 13 November 2015 14: 18 New
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    Russia needs Ukraine. Such a large Russian territory. In fact, having everything for prosperity, like Great Russia! The same reasons do not allow living normally here and there. Only in Ukraine is this already critical. Painfully. But in the end, this part of Russia will be returned, as will Crimea. It is sad that a huge part of the population will be lost physically, politically or mentally. "Thank you" for this to the destroyers of the USSR. He was scolded, in fact, everyone wanted to live in one state, a referendum showed this in Ukraine, as in other parts of the Union. The will of the people was to have one great state. And what the people want, God wants. They are going against God there now. They will pay for it. But everything will fall into place. It's time to collect stones.
  31. yvk-evg 13 November 2015 14: 36 New
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    Oh-oh-oh, and this urkain already got !!! Everyone is worn with her like fools with a written sack! And she imagined herself a world value, not understanding that as in that song of the ever-memorable Makarevich: "And if someone is grooming and undead, then this is only the one who then ... will kill." So if we are not going to "then cut them", then we need to stop grooming and undead, so that the brains earned and recovered. This means that there are no discounts and preferences, only refugees from the South-East (and then women and children), debts on the barrel, no economic relations (export from urkaina), comprehensive (and military) assistance to Donbas, etc. can be allowed into Russia. etc. In the end, this land is OUR !!! ALL!!! COLLECTED AND REVEALED BY OUR GREAT ANNIVERS !!! Why are we so obsessed with liquid ... before our ancestors ?! THEY ARE NOT FORGIVING US !!! We will not be able to return this part of the ARCHITECTURAL OUR land - such gangrene will trample on and on to the rest of RUSSIA !!!
  32. mich 13 November 2015 15: 34 New
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    Comrades, where is your humanism? They want to work, so let them come and work - in Siberia for food.
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      Comrade Mich, what bad did Siberia do to you? Why are we scaring the whole dill? People live here too and we don’t need any garbage! Especially when the winter began. Bears went to bed. In the fall, at least bears could be fed these and in winter where to put them? Why do we need "robbers for grub"? Kharchi in Siberia is more expensive than such "prazuvateli". It is not right to consider Siberia a place for utilization of garbage!
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  33. chelovektapok 13 November 2015 18: 13 New
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    They work in Russia, feed their families, expel them to punishers in the Donbass. They hate to the grinding of teeth "nursing hand." FACT! They need to introduce an explicit tax of -20% on the maintenance of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. With a message to the tax authorities at the place of registration of dill passport. And there already the SBU will deal with them so that you don’t wish the enemy .... Only in this way with Bandera and not otherwise!
  34. Balagan 13 November 2015 18: 38 New
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    Nafik-nafik us heroes of the ATO. There are enough of its 5 columns, and here also mishandled Cossacks.
  35. Dimon-chik-79 13 November 2015 19: 17 New
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    They work in Russia, feed their families, expel them to punishers in the Donbass. They hate to the grinding of teeth "nursing hand." FACT!
    Well, we don’t know the same thing about El Dorado (you know what kind of economic situation you are) and basically if people come with brains that aren’t greasy and the Russians are brotherly to us, that is, in general, most of them. And for the long euro, this is Poland and beyond (although sugar is not there now, you know the competition winked , but nonetheless). But it is also true that we should not directly, indirectly, feed the fascist regime and it might be a really good decision to grant citizenship to those who want to work in the Russian Federation and their families under the resettlement program. Well, as an option.
    And no matter how we belong to the top of the Ukrainian junta, we should not forget that most Russians associate family ties with Ukrainians to one degree or another, and probably you should not project your righteous anger over the entire population of unhappy Ukraine.
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      This is about those relatives who hang up after shouting "Shaw, does Raska attack us?"
  36. Denis Skiff 13 November 2015 19: 34 New
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    Quote: Cherdak
    Quote: Ded_smerch
    if you look at Ukraine for a long time


    But do you know how they themselves imagined Ukraine only 10 (!!!) years ago in full strength?

    Who is so serious? That the journalists that the actors with the politicians talk about some complete seriously.
  37. Yarhann 13 November 2015 21: 51 New
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    I don’t know the essence of how to name something - what to UNDERSTAND and forgive - as I understand it - yes, for most residents of the Russian Federation, the war in the Donbas and the warriors on both sides are not particularly close and do not care what’s on those. But let's recall the slogans and symbolism under which many ATO heroes perled to the Donbass, not because they fought with the Donetsk people, it all rose, namely because of their bestial anti-human rhetoric, because they are superhuman and subhuman, they must be obeyed and all disagreements will be destroyed - isn't that Fascism - ISIS does not resemble the politics of the party of cattle education - or ISIS veterans also ask friends from Afghanistan, Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Tajikistan, and let our country come back and visit us to meet with bread and salt - this was never and never will be - an opportunity to attract such people in one case, it would be public repentance and investigative measures by an individual to search for possible war crimes, etc., etc. - otherwise, this superhuman would be unnecessary under any flag of a passport in our territory, and all developed countries of the world and the USA and the EU would do that
  38. 1rl141 13 November 2015 23: 32 New
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    Comrade Mich, what bad did Siberia do to you? Why are we scaring the whole dill? People live here too and we don’t need any garbage! Especially when the winter began. Bears went to bed. In the fall, at least bears could be fed these and in winter where to put them? Why do we need "robbers for grub"? Kharchi in Siberia is more expensive than such "prazuvateli". It is not right to consider Siberia a place for utilization of garbage!

    Why don’t they send these tenants to remove the snow? All. When the winter begins. And the wolves will not remain hungry in the winter.
  39. Alfizik 13 November 2015 23: 43 New
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    Ukraine and our relations with it must be judged not by the mind, but by the heart. They curse us (the majority), they envy us, they shame us in front of the whole world, they kill us in the Donbass, we spent on them (taking them from us) and spend and we will spend a lot of money, they sold the Russian soul. .. Do I want to be with them? I do not want! Until Russian history textbooks appear in their schools, until they themselves transplant all banderlogs, until they "write a letter to the Turkish (American) Sultan" ... Until conscience awakens in their souls. Will Ukraine return the honor? .. I want it back! But not at our expense. Selling girl should stop selling ... Russia did not put her under Obama.
  40. Lenin 14 November 2015 02: 12 New
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    I could not read and understand what the article was about, until at the end I saw the most important lines:
    I can PR ... Any person can be PR, except for the politician, the official and the military. These are service people, and any of their actions was and will not be a personal act of a person, but an act of a state person. Human state
    That’s right and strong. Thank. smile
  41. taseka 14 November 2015 07: 31 New
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    "Ukraine has long become a swear word." - For this one phrase, I am Russian, I put you a minus, because this is not just stupidity - it is a provocation !!!!
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  42. asher 14 November 2015 08: 27 New
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    It is not necessary to forbid entry to participants of anti-terrorist operation and others like that. On the contrary, such people should be lured so that they simply disappear without a trace in time and space.
  43. Lenin 14 November 2015 10: 37 New
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    That’s right and strong. Thank.

    I want to add that the Internet is the best place for leakage of classified information, it is not for nothing that the states have proposed the technology of the so-called "cloud" (storing information on a remote server), they systematically collect information. And then you read the familiar names of servicemen in various Ukrainian and foreign publications. am
  44. BARKHAN 14 November 2015 10: 44 New
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    I thought a lot about this topic. A lot ... What shall we do with them next? And there were more questions than answers.
    Are we still one nation? Is there a chance for us to coexist together, at least under what guise? What can this give us in general? Why do we need them at all?
    Let's look at this issue without emotion ...
    With the current generation of Ukrainians, and this is a fact, we are not brothers. Do we need their land? No, we don’t need it. We have not mastered our land. Do we need their people? Only those who want to move to Russia for permanent residence. Do we need them riches? There aren’t any riches there. Is NATO expanding on the territory of Ukraine? They won’t get there themselves, and we will "help".
    At the moment, this country with its cunning population is not needed by anyone. Everything that could be squeezed out is almost exhausted. The remaining great Ukrainians are merrily breaking through themselves.
    In its current state, Ukraine is a forty-millionth stone around the neck ... And no one wants to drag it on themselves. Wherever Ukrainians now join the EU or Russia, they will need to be fed and rebuilt. That is, to maintain at their own expense. In this case, gratitude, as you know, will not be, but only a contemptuous attitude.
    And then the question then ... Do we need it? Have we already mastered our territory? Have we created all the conditions for a decent life for our citizens? We probably have a lot of extra money and time?
    My personal opinion is ... These great neighbors need to get wet in their own ...., "environment", so to speak even deeper. Build all relations and business, as well as with other "European" states. No discounts and preferences. All temple-goers should go home, build a bright future. They again had elections, and again they chose vampires for themselves. So this life is their conscious choice.
    It’s time to understand for a long time that ours are those who live inside the state border. And only they need help. With the others only by mutual benefit.
    1. vit357 14 November 2015 12: 35 New
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      . NATO expansion on the territory of Ukraine? They themselves will not climb there, and we will "help".

      Do you need a legal paper stating that NATO is already on the outskirts with a signature and a seal? In fact, they are already there.
      1. BARKHAN 14 November 2015 14: 23 New
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        No, no papers are needed ... The partisan movement will be enough. Snipers firing at NATO troops, blown up bridges, and broken equipment ... Which is happening right now by the way. Well and of course the partisans must be citizens of Ukraine. This is so say moderate opposition, so to speak, the will of a part of the population of Ukraine. Democracy in its purest form. The most that there is no way to the West ... But isn’t that what they do in BV, specifically in Syria. Or do you think getting a job in Ukraine is going to heaven ?
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    The best thing now is not to write or listen to news about the outskirts !!!
    Us - the army !!!
    Quarantine!!!
  46. vell.65 14 November 2015 12: 18 New
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    Quote: Cherdak
    But do you know how they themselves imagined Ukraine only 10 (!!!) years ago in full strength?

    After prolonged abuse of the vodka, sometimes there is a delirium tremens, in the process of which it is still not as much a dream as the political map of the world.
  47. vit357 14 November 2015 12: 30 New
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    Undoubtedly, filtering should be, just a list of murderers should be compiled, but by and large the outskirts themselves are Frankenstein’s monster assembled by the Bolsheviks from heterogeneous parts that tear each other apart. In fact, there is a split into three parts: west, center, southeast and therefore my unenlightened opinion needs to be automatically deprived of the right to travel to Russia, the center and the west, who supported the coup, muidan and murders in the Donbass, and already deal with the southeast according to the lists of punishers. Laughter to the curd!)))
  48. gerodot 14 November 2015 13: 30 New
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    did not understand the author. it is normal practice in jurisprudence to declare criminals as such if the dill taking part in the ATO turns out to be in our country to have grounds for his arrest. it is better to give the same answer as they did, to prohibit the entry of men aged 12-70 from Ukraine (and Georgia).
    1. andrew42 14 November 2015 19: 31 New
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      Well, from 12 to 70, you don’t need to repeat this stupid trick. As for the "criminals", it is also legally incorrect, since they committed crimes in the territory of another state. But for a year or two it is quite reasonable and sufficient to restrict entry for “participants in the effort”. This applies to ordinary fighters of the Armed Forces. For ensigns and officers - do not enter for 5 years, they received a salary for the ATO. Well, with the terrorist fighters and the organizers of the massacre, is another story altogether. They have nothing to do in Russia. Or there is something, but behind a thorn.
  49. Kemerov 14 November 2015 15: 08 New
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    The difficulties of the Ukrainian people are the Ukrainian people. What are we all worried about? There are enough problems.
    But every crest who wants to take part in the ATO will receive another signal to the remainder of the brain.
  50. andrew42 14 November 2015 19: 25 New
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    It is simply necessary to introduce such a ban for ATO participants. Temporarily for 1 year for all participants (there will not be enough forces to deal with the "cooks" and "clerks"). And for 10 years for the command "military and administrative staff", for those who received salaries, this ATO is organizing and supporting. So in Ukraine, working hands will remain - for their own good. And it doesn’t interfere with raising “children”.