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It's cold ... Warmer ... Hot! ..

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If recently the economy systematically has the topic of justification by federal officials (from the Ministry of Finance to the Ministry of Health) of the need to raise the retirement age, that is, its "skeleton in the closet" and in the scientific community. Speech in this case is about periodically pop up in the media statements of various scholars about the impending or already existing global warming. Publications appear that claim that 30-40 will pass through the years, and the planet Earth will either turn into a lifeless desert, or it will be swallowed up by huge volumes of water from melting glaciers. In general, scientists paint apocalyptic scenarios, and it is already difficult to give a definite answer: does Hollywood use these scripts of scientists as a basis for their disaster films, or scientists, having seen enough Hollywood films, are taken as a pen? ..


It should be noted that apocalyptic forecasts and scenarios usually distinguished foreign scientists - primarily Western. However, during the week, domestic scientists already appeared with rather unexpected information. So, the news agency TASS published an interview with the Acting Director of the Earth Cryosphere Institute of the Siberian Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Doctor of Geological and Mineralogical Sciences Dmitry Drozdov. Dr. Drozdov told the TASS correspondent that the Russian territory is constantly ... decreasing.

After such a statement, some ladies and gentlemen plunged into news ribbons with the purpose of finding out to whom, when and how many square kilometers of their native land Russia donated or lent out indefinitely, but nothing similar was found in the news feeds by the ladies and gentlemen. As it turned out, Dr. Drozdov does not mean territorial and water-related gifts to foreign countries, but a process of a natural nature.

If you believe Dmitry Drozdov, then every year the territory of the Russian Federation is reduced by about 500 square kilometers due to melting permafrost and blurring of the coastline of the seas of the Arctic Ocean.

It's cold ... Warmer ... Hot! ..


TASS quotes Dmitry Drozdov:
We are losing a year due to the thawing of permafrost in the coastal zone of the northern seas, somewhere from the territory of Andorra. The shores are also eroding in the south, but in the north they are eroding much faster. How does this happen? The wave hits the permafrost soil, transfers heat, and this soil thaws. In the south, if the coast has collapsed, sand lies, "protecting" the coast from further erosion. And here, since there is a lot of ice in the ground (up to 80%), nothing remains, and the wave hits the next segment of the ground. This is a natural process, an inevitable process. Remember the legends about the Land of Sannikov. Today there are several assumptions about where this land could be. Now, where the shore is washed away, shoals are formed, where the depth is a meter or two. And 150 years ago it was an island, people could live there.


According to Dr. Drozdov, the southern line of permafrost in Russia has shifted by about 30 km in 40 years, which, according to him, indicates a certain mitigation of climate on a global scale.

The scientist’s statement must have made a wry face somewhere in Yakutsk, where the climate is “mild” so much that, according to the weather forecast, the next night is expected to be minus 30 ... In the Sakha Republic, it is possible that they are happy with “global warming” and sea ​​waves, which, it turns out, melt the coastal ice, but the wishes of the inhabitants of Yakutia and the possibilities of nature do not coincide yet ...

On the Net, based on data from a scientist at the Institute of Earth's Cryosphere, it has already been calculated that all the territorial acquisitions of Russia associated with reunification with the Crimea, due to the melting of the Arctic ice, will disappear through 54 of the year, taking into account the area of ​​the Crimea ... Others have already counted that RF losses in Andorrach are one unit, then in some San Marino losses amount to already whole 8 units. And if you count in the Vaticans, the territorial decline is altogether colossal ...

In general, Dr. Drozdov gave people food for thought, because there is nothing more entertaining for an idle individual than to calculate how much Liechtenstein or Monaco annually loses the territory of the Russian Federation.

In the meantime, territorial losses in Russia were considered due to the wave of the sea wave, a new report was submitted to the World Bank, which tells how many new poor people will appear in the world as a result of “global warming”. Global what? - again asked somewhere in the Neryungri area. Global warming, - with a serious look answered them in the World Bank.

According to the calculations of the World Bank, by the year 2030 the number of people who will fall below the poverty line in the world will be approximately 100 million more. Identified and risk zones - countries in South and Northeast Africa, Central and South Asia. At the same time, the main factor in the impoverishment of the population is desertification of land, lack of fresh water and, as a result, regional problems with agriculture, which threaten to grow into global ones.

Russian experts immediately stated that global warming is a big plus for Russia. They say, well, let them flood the "bear corners" of the Arctic, but somewhere in Karelia it will already be possible to grow sunflower on an industrial scale, and near Saratov - and even switch to oranges and mango ... Radical optimists once again said that with such- then, they say, the development of events, we (Russia), even if having lost a couple of tens of Andorr, we will overwhelm the world markets with our pineapples and papaya, not to mention the additional volumes of grain and legumes ...

Reflections on the topic of “global warming” and its advantages for Russia look, of course, entertaining, but in many respects these reflections resemble something from the series, in what year communism will be built, and when the decaying West will finally rot… In the areas of arable land, with those unique natural components of dozens of Russian regions, it is too much to rely on some kind of warming. And assertions that we’ll wait for 15 years later, and then as “fill up with Sakhalin mandarinamias,” as “feed the Tver pineapples,” the whole world looks, I'm sorry, with a clinic. Clinically, if only because our country and now (with warming or without warming, with violent waves or without them), the potential for becoming a true giant of the world food market is truly inexhaustible.

But while someone seriously ponders about the “imminent” establishment of subarctic tea plantations, we continue to buy fish at an astronomical price in Chile and Thailand, continue to import potatoes from Turkey and Israel, rejoice that the import of beef was not made through its purchases in France, and in Argentina ... Perhaps, it is better to attend to the problems of today, rather than rely on natural manna from heaven, "expected" by scientists in 15-20 years. What kind of what, and our country is endowed with such manna by ancestors (from lands to natural resources hidden in them), envy about which has not been weathered from the heads of our "partners" for centuries ...
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  1. Name
    Name 12 November 2015 05: 49 New
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    No (Zadornov), everything is much simpler and more ingenious, from DAM: So no need CARE laughing WARMING, the thing is that the Russians began to LIFE longer ...
    1. BMW
      BMW 12 November 2015 05: 57 New
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      Quote: name
      the thing is that the Russians began to LIFE longer.

      Yeah, and consume more pineapples and tangerines. lol Now, without Tver pineapples and Sakhalin mandarins, we can only see decline and degradation.
      Such statements, for the government, are a real treasure to justify their anti-Russian and anti-people "activities".
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 12 November 2015 06: 11 New
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        Quote: bmw
        to justify their anti-Russian and anti-people "activities".

        Such statements of the Prospect Island are the basis for building this Liber Prospect Island near the wall for trying to harm Russia and its people in the process of carrying out unconstitutional actions
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 06: 40 New
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          So many indignant komentov. The people, and what did you count on when you introduced sanctions against us ??? Many cited Iran as an example, that sanctions are against it and nothing lives. Here you will live and finally learn how to live under sanctions.
          And Putin doesn’t have anything left, stupidly no money.
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 12 November 2015 06: 42 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And Putin doesn’t have anything left, stupidly no money.

            Does Putin have no money? belay Can we borrow him to pay? laughing drinks
            1. Throw
              Throw 12 November 2015 16: 22 New
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              No money - the Ministry of Finance will take, and the Central Bank will print. This is a state, not personal pockets.
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 13 November 2015 05: 39 New
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              Quote: Ruslan67
              Does Putin have no money?

              Putin may have something in his pocket, but in the budget there’s a shack wassat Ruslan, you went to bankers wassat
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 13 November 2015 05: 45 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Ruslan, you went to bankers

                No. Just too, the money ran out request
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 13 November 2015 06: 02 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Just too, the money ran out

                  You’re like 3D bullshit there, you are fond of a son-in-law for a couple. I don’t see problems, help the State Signature, print a couple of thousand new 5000 x notes wink
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 13 November 2015 06: 05 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Help the State Sign, print a couple of thousand new 5000 x notes

                    After that, he will help me with new housing and work. wassat
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 13 November 2015 06: 23 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      After that, he will help me with new housing and work.

                      And you print a lot, a lot. And for many, many do not give wink And there you look and generally recognize your money as the main unit of account laughing
                      1. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 13 November 2015 06: 36 New
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                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        . And for many, many do not give

                        yes One bullet
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        generally recognize your money as the main unit of account

                        My surname is not even Kerensky sad
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 13 November 2015 06: 53 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        My surname is not even Kerensky

                        Take a pseudonym. You won’t become a seal of loot under your own name, you won’t have time to unwind laughing
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        3. Mera joota
          Mera joota 12 November 2015 06: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Many cited Iran as an example; sanctions are against it and nothing lives on.

          Iran made concessions for the sake of lifting sanctions, apparently tired of living nothing ...
        4. Karabanov
          Karabanov 12 November 2015 07: 04 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The people, what did you expect when sanctions were introduced against us ???

          So many were happy, there was so much idle talk - well, finally! Import substitution, support of a domestic manufacturer, blah blah blah ... Well, where?
          Our prices have increased at least twice, and this with the same decrease in s / n. I see no reason for joy.
        5. guzik007
          guzik007 12 November 2015 07: 14 New
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          Alexander Romanov
          . Here and YOU will live and finally learn how ...

          I read your comments and there is an analogy with letters from afar. Or you send us your opuses from abroad, or are so torn from the plebs that, sorry, despise ...

          And regarding sanctions, hmm, do not you remind us, dear, who dragged this country into the WTO by the ears, despite the numerous warnings of not the last people in the economy? And how it came around after the warm skin of Western technology was ripped off from our industry — it wasn’t built up.
          1. anip
            anip 12 November 2015 08: 28 New
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            Quote: guzik007
            I read your comments and there is an analogy with letters from afar. Or you send us your opuses from abroad, or are so torn from the plebs that, sorry, despise ...

            Yes, he is 100 poods, either a security official, or a military officer, or a boss who is not too low.
            1. vgorlekost
              vgorlekost 12 November 2015 08: 42 New
              +5

              Everything is much more commonplace, look at his profile ...)
              1. anip
                anip 12 November 2015 09: 19 New
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                Well moderator. One another is not a hindrance. By the way, the moderator is some kind of selective. For one word in the comment, the warning sculpts, but in the article the same word is permissible.
          2. vgorlekost
            vgorlekost 12 November 2015 08: 36 New
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            Quote: guzik007


            I read your comments and there is an analogy with letters from afar. Or you send us your opuses from abroad, or are so torn from the plebs that, sorry, despise ...

            And regarding sanctions, hmm, do not you remind us, dear, who dragged this country into the WTO by the ears, despite the numerous warnings of not the last people in the economy? And how it came around after the warm skin of Western technology was ripped off from our industry — it wasn’t built up.
            I fully support! It is not only torn off from reality, but synapses from neurons are torn uniquely.
          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 13 November 2015 05: 43 New
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            Quote: guzik007
            who dragged this country into the WTO,

            I didn’t see anything good at the time from joining the WTO, but now it’s exactly the same. The rules are not respected, the WTO does not work and you can forget about it.



            Quote: guzik007
            Or you send us your opus from abroad,

            Yes, from abroad, the Far East, few Russians were in our area.
            Quote: guzik007
            And how it came around after the warm skin of Western technologies was ripped off from our industry - they somehow didn’t increase it.

            But this didn’t come back at all.
        6. anip
          anip 12 November 2015 08: 25 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The people, what did you expect when sanctions were introduced against us ???

          A good maza at u-Utriots - sanctions. If there were no sanctions, then they should have been invented in order to justify the guarantor's mediocre economic policy for 15 years.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And Putin doesn’t have anything left, stupidly no money.

          Ah, poor, poor Putin, he probably goes to the store with the same T-shirt for food.
          1. Samaritan
            Samaritan 12 November 2015 09: 18 New
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            Quote: anip
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The people, what did you expect when sanctions were introduced against us ???

            A good maza at u-Utriots - sanctions. If there were no sanctions, then they should have been invented in order to justify the guarantor's mediocre economic policy for 15 years.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And Putin doesn’t have anything left, stupidly no money.

            Ah, poor, poor Putin, he probably goes to the store with the same T-shirt for food.

            Well, do you have a concrete plan and you perfectly know how to improve the lives of Russians ?!
            1. Hon
              Hon 12 November 2015 09: 56 New
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              Quote: Samaritan
              Well, do you have a concrete plan and you perfectly know how to improve the lives of Russians ?!

              I think it’s worth starting with the correct prioritization, a show-off campaign for PR, a doubling of salaries for deputies, raising tens of billions of rubles not in all kinds of Sochi, the World Cup and summits, and so on and so forth are not the most important priorities, but it’s a huge part of them the budget. And it is necessary to invest in it, these are built objects, tourism, production stimulation. But 50 billion in Sochi at 20 billion real value (the amount was taken with a margin), it is somehow too much.
          2. Down House
            Down House 12 November 2015 17: 26 New
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            Quote: anip
            If there were no sanctions, then they should have been invented to justify the guarantor’s mediocre economic policy for 15 years.

            Come to our region, where the influence of the federal government is strong - for 15 years, 100500 changes for the better!
            And the fact that if you have “nothing good” (if you’re not lying, of course) you yourself have chosen such local officials, we have a state all the same Big and democratic and federal pancake!
            1. Hon
              Hon 12 November 2015 18: 03 New
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              Is your region Moscow?
              Quote: Down House
              Come to our region, where the influence of the federal government is strong - for 15 years, 100500 changes for the better!
              1. Down House
                Down House 12 November 2015 20: 28 New
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                Quote: Hon
                Is your region Moscow?

                Yes, in the metropolitan area.
                And believe me - it's not just about money.
                1. Hon
                  Hon 13 November 2015 09: 12 New
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                  Quote: Down House
                  Yes, in the metropolitan area.
                  And believe me - it's not just about money.

                  Yes, I’ve moved about seven years, and I know many things regarding the budget of Moscow from the inside.
            2. nemets
              nemets 12 November 2015 22: 38 New
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              try to lead at least a village - then tell me how it is. and the country, and even the largest in the world, compare it yourself.
        7. dvg79
          dvg79 12 November 2015 09: 37 New
          +5
          At the World Cup, in Sochi, 60 billion greenery was buried in a swamp, for everything else, no?
        8. max702
          max702 12 November 2015 11: 11 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And Putin doesn’t have anything left, stupidly no money.

          Maybe he ask friends? Somehow, the billionaires of Russians in the Forbes list are not getting smaller, but, as it were, the other way around .. We need to work! There is enough money, but there is no desire to work and think before that ..
          1. Down House
            Down House 12 November 2015 17: 28 New
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            Quote: max702
            Somehow, the billionaires of Russians in the Forbes list are not getting smaller, but, as it were, the other way around.

            And there are also more ordinary millionaires, business in the country is developing, and the economy is also growing after it, and with it the standard of living of ordinary citizens ..
            1. Hon
              Hon 12 November 2015 18: 04 New
              +5
              Quote: Down House
              And there are also more ordinary millionaires, business in the country is developing, and the economy is also growing after it, and with it the standard of living of ordinary citizens ..

              it you about which country write?
              1. Down House
                Down House 12 November 2015 20: 44 New
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                Quote: Hon
                it you about which country write?

                About the Russian Federation.
                I am writing what I see around me.
                1. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 12 November 2015 21: 28 New
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                  Quote: Down House
                  About the Russian Federation.
                  I am writing what I see around me.

                  You, Dear Muscovite, do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. A country with Moscow is not even funny to compare. negative
                  1. Down House
                    Down House 13 November 2015 09: 10 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir 1964
                    A country with Moscow is not even funny to compare.

                    What does "compare" mean?
                    I do not directly compare with Moscow, but write - that in the Russian Federation, as in any country, the standard of living differs by region, and not only in Stolichny.
                    I travel periodically around the Russian Federation - there are frankly depressed regions like Chuvashia - there are fairly prosperous ones like neighboring Tatarstan.
                    Therefore, I don’t think that if it’s hard to live somewhere “in the outback”, then Moscow is to blame - first of all, you need to ask questions of the local leadership.
                2. Rostovchanin
                  Rostovchanin 12 November 2015 22: 05 New
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                  About the Russian Federation.
                  I am writing what I see around me.

                  Remove the pink glasses ... and move beyond the MKAD ...
                  1. Down House
                    Down House 13 November 2015 09: 12 New
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                    Quote: Rostovchanin
                    and move beyond the MKAD

                    I already live "outside the Moscow Ring Road" - like many other Muscovites.
                    And I’ll even say more, if you travel around the Moscow region, then even within the borders of the Moscow region there are prosperous areas with new roads, houses, enterprises, and there are frankly depressed ones with asphalt almost gone underground!
                3. Karabanov
                  Karabanov 13 November 2015 04: 43 New
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                  Quote: Down House
                  About the Russian Federation.
                  I am writing what I see around me.

                  You are too shortsighted.
                  Your "logic" does not stand up to scrutiny. Reasoning at the 2nd grade level. Come down at least sometimes to the ground ...
                  Go to the regions in the end - to the Far East, Siberia ... Otherwise you don’t see beyond your nose, but all the same ...
                  1. Down House
                    Down House 13 November 2015 09: 15 New
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                    Quote: Karabanov
                    Go to the regions in the end - to the Far East, Siberia ... Otherwise, you don’t see beyond your nose, but all the same

                    I just travel from time to time to the regions (from Kaliningrad to the Urals) and that is why I write that life is different by region, so if you don’t like something, then start with the LOCAL leadership and you don’t have to blame Moscow for that in "Zauryupinsk" the mayor and the bribe-taker!
                    NOT IN MOSCOW, this mayor was chosen!
                    1. Karabanov
                      Karabanov 13 November 2015 09: 54 New
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                      Quote: Down House
                      I just do periodically travel to the regions (from Kaliningrad to the Urals)

                      You imagine a map of Russia, I hope ... I didn’t not in vain say Siberia, the Far East. Or do you have Russia only to the Urals? Depressed regions usually start from there. Especially small provincial towns and villages. There is practically no normal and well-paid job. Enterprises that have not yet died are agonizing. In my city, a factory of reinforced concrete structures, SMU, a furniture and sausage factory, as well as the largest city-forming enterprise - a machine-building plant (refers to UVZ by the way) - were ordered to live long. But hypermarkets and beer points grow like mushrooms. A salary of 20-25 thousand is the limit of desires and is considered very decent (my last - 10 thousand).
                      You are trying in vain to convince me. Or maybe you think that other people live here?
                      By the way, if you have forgotten, can you refresh your memory with the history of a federal construction site - the Vostochny cosmodrome, where the hard workers did not even receive their due?
                      Quote: Down House
                      start with the LOCAL leadership and do not blame Moscow for the mayor and bribe-taker in "Zauryupinsk"!

                      Governors are local princes who allow arbitrary actions with the blessing of Moscow. And I did not choose either the "governor" or the mayor. But they are all polls in "EdRe" and you think that the results of the vote here will be different?
                      The local leadership bravoly reports on "great achievements", and the governor reports to the president, the circle is closed. Only now poverty breeds, and bureaucrats' pockets swell. This hypocrisy is permeated from municipal to federal. So you are not quite right, or rather not at all correct, trying to reason. Past respected Down House, you are not getting it.
        9. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 12 November 2015 16: 43 New
          +3
          Alexander Romanov "So you will live and finally you will learn how to live under sanctions."
          And then we did not live with them under the Union.))) There were always some sanctions. Perhaps one should be happy about raising the retirement age?))) In fact, it is being increased everywhere and in those countries against which there are no sanctions, but they will survive until retirement.))) They have a higher standard of living.)))
          But we do not know.)))
        10. holding
          holding 12 November 2015 19: 17 New
          -1
          Well yes. He doesn’t know what to do-32000 mortgage 17000 car loan ... And zp reduced him and his wife ...
          Poor guy pukin ...
      2. satris
        satris 12 November 2015 07: 14 New
        +4
        "With what pleasure I would take you out into an open field, put you facing the wall and put a bullet in your forehead!" - Well, why such statements? Maybe we can try to fight constitutionally somehow? If the ideas of the Communist Party do not suit - given that Zyu has already "caved in" to Yeltsin, there are other parties that are closer to the interests of the people.
        1. nemets
          nemets 12 November 2015 22: 40 New
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          name these parties. right-wing Russians just by - I know these people myself. ldpr - the same thing. who else?
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 12 November 2015 09: 35 New
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      Quote: bmw
      Such statements, for the government, are a real treasure to justify their anti-Russian and anti-people "activities".

      After 60 they don’t want to take any work. Yes there after 45-50. And if a person works physically?
      I just want to use foul language. Despite the fact that the Luzhkovs and Borodins are fleeing abroad with billions, and Serdyukov is on the board of directors of Rostec (they are still waiting for their "negligence").
    3. BMW
      BMW 12 November 2015 11: 16 New
      +9
      Here you are in the pursuit of Putin lovers.
      Unions of Kamchatka will hold a rally against the abolition of compensation for travel on vacation for northerners

      Society November 12, 7:38 UTC + 3
      The event is scheduled for November 27.
      PETROPAVLOVSK-KAMCHATSKY, November 12. / Corr. TASS Elena Vereshchaka. The trade unions of Kamchatka at their presidium decided to hold a rally on November 27 against plans by the Russian government to cancel compensation for travel to and from vacation homes for residents of the Far North and equivalent localities. About this correspondent. TASS said the chairman of the Federation of Trade Unions of the Peninsula Andrei Zimin.
      "The members of the Presidium of the Federation of Trade Unions of Kamchatka at their meeting today decided to hold a rally in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky on November 27. Notification of the event will soon be submitted to the city administration to agree on the place and time of the event," Zimin said.
      The purpose of the rally is to prevent changes in the provision of state guarantees for workers living in the Far North and equivalent localities to pay for travel to and from the vacation venue. According to Zimin, the preparation of amendments in the near future will be a working group created on behalf of the Government of the Russian Federation in the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Russian Federation.
      "We have at our disposal a letter from the Ministry of Labor of the Russian Federation. I am sure that many deputies of the Legislative Assembly of the Kamchatka Territory, Governor Vladimir Ilyukhin will support the initiative of trade unions and help make certain officials in Moscow hear the voice of the inhabitants of the region," the agency's source said.
      According to him, "the working group of the Ministry of Labor of the Russian Federation is considering the possibility of reducing compensation costs for workers' travel on vacation by 1 percent already from June 2016, 50, and at the second stage, from June 2017, to completely cancel them."
      According to federal law, residents of the Far North and equivalent areas, including the Kamchatka Territory, every two years have the right to pay for travel to the place of vacation (within the Russian Federation) and vice versa. At the same time, the obligation to pay travel to their employees is entrusted to federal, regional and municipal authorities, as well as enterprises of all forms of ownership and individual entrepreneurs.
      The trade unions emphasized that with the current cost of air tickets from Kamchatka to the mainland, for many residents of the region this right is the only opportunity to visit other regions of Russia during their holidays. So, for example, now a ticket for the next 10 days to Moscow can be purchased at a price of 66 thousand to 84 thousand rubles.
      1. BMW
        BMW 12 November 2015 11: 59 New
        +6
        Quote: bmw
        Unions of Kamchatka will hold a rally against the abolition of compensation for travel on vacation for northerners

        I get 50 mp, my wife 25 mp, two children, a living wage of 18187 rubles. Total 72748 rubles. I'm on the verge of poverty. Now they want to deprive my children of the opportunity to visit a normal climate, and this is very important for health. they are am
        PS. AI-92 gasoline for two weeks, as it went up by 80 cents and costs 43 rubles. The third increase since September 15, the general rise in price of 3 rubles.
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        3. lwxx
          lwxx 12 November 2015 13: 45 New
          +4
          Yes, you, land still live great bully
        4. Down House
          Down House 12 November 2015 16: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: bmw
          Total 72748 rubles. I'm on the verge of poverty.

          Many of us live here in Moscow here, they save unconditionally - but how do you not complain.
          You drive and consider yourself to be on the edge of poverty.
          Quote: bmw
          AI-92 gasoline for two weeks, as it went up by 80 kopecks and costs 43 rubles

          I pour 95 I get 37-39. So all questions are first of all to your local "leaders"
          1. Hon
            Hon 12 November 2015 18: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Down House
            Many of us live here in Moscow here, they save unconditionally - but how do you not complain.
            You drive and consider yourself to be on the edge of poverty.

            Soon the rest of Russia will move to Moscow and everything will be fine
            1. Down House
              Down House 12 November 2015 20: 51 New
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              Quote: Hon
              Soon the rest of Russia will move to Moscow and everything will be fine

              I doubt it will be a little cramped fellow
              1. Hon
                Hon 13 November 2015 08: 34 New
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                Quote: Down House
                I doubt it will be a little cramped

                well, already 10% of the population, the largest in the country, is strange, lives in one city.
                1. Down House
                  Down House 13 November 2015 09: 17 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Hon
                  10% of the population of the largest in the country is strange, lives in one city.

                  This is called "urbanization" - a global tendency to move from all over the country to megacities.
          2. BMW
            BMW 12 November 2015 23: 52 New
            +3
            Quote: Down House
            Many of us live here in Moscow here, they save unconditionally - but how do you not complain.

            Sorry, but you’re kidding me right now, or just not exactly that, not in yourself. Sit and think before speaking.
            1. Down House
              Down House 13 November 2015 09: 26 New
              -1
              Quote: bmw
              Sit and think before you speak

              So, think that the needs of people with increasing prosperity tend to infinity, and money (and most importantly - resources) tend to zero, and from this simple equation it follows that the bulk of the population of 95% or more will always be forced to save and she will always miss something!
              You say 70+ is not enough ?!
              You won’t believe it, but people earn 700+ and they don’t have enough, because a good small apartment in Moscow is 20-30 million rubles, a good car from 5+ million, even damn good kitchen sets cost 1-5 million, and even on a normal vacation relax take a trip a couple of million per family.
              Therefore, God grant you Happiness, that's what they earned by their age, so live and rejoice, many have even less.
        5. nemets
          nemets 12 November 2015 22: 47 New
          +3
          ha, you are still in chocolate! I am in a much worse situation - I now have a zp from 35 to 25-28 fell, and prices slowly but surely creep up. and the child goes to school and you also have to pay there. I don’t want to talk about the car at all. Of course, we have cheaper products than you, but no more than 20 -25% .This despite the fact that I'm working on the defense industry. So draw conclusions ...
  2. lexx2038
    lexx2038 12 November 2015 06: 00 New
    18
    Yeah, I also looked DAMA. He stated there with such regret that the Russians began to live longer and there were not enough pensions for everyone.
    1. Karabanov
      Karabanov 12 November 2015 06: 25 New
      22
      Well, it’s not rusting after them ... People will raise the retirement age, but their own salary. Classics of the genre. Such a government must be driven away by a filthy broom. The virtues are damn.
      1. anip
        anip 12 November 2015 08: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: Karabanov
        Such a government must be driven away by a filthy broom.

        Do not forget the guarantor.
        1. Governor
          Governor 12 November 2015 13: 01 New
          +4
          Always forget) what is it
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 12 November 2015 15: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: lexx2038
      Yeah, I also looked DAMA. He stated there with such regret that the Russians began to live longer and there were not enough pensions for everyone.

      He will be glad if the money to the pension fund is incurred and will not be taken away.
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 06: 39 New
    20
    Quote: name
    If the economy has recently systematically raised the issue of justification by federal officials (from the Ministry of Finance to the Ministry of Health) of the need to raise the retirement age,

    I almost spat in a box yesterday ... Aiphony bears such crap (especially about the "longevity" of my fellow citizens) that apart from the perfect, three-story, powerful Russian language, there were no other emotions. am
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 12 November 2015 06: 43 New
      +7
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I almost spat in the box yesterday

      And you are his slipper! slipper! Yes in the face! laughing
      1. andj61
        andj61 12 November 2015 09: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        I almost spat in the box yesterday

        And you are his slipper! slipper! Yes in the face! laughing

        Began... lol Now they will also remember the shovel ... wink
        hi
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 06: 45 New
      -1
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      IPhone carries such crap (

      Andrei hi And why the hell is that, he says what the situation is now, and the fact that many people do not like the situation .......
      Hand over Assad, return the Crimea to Khokhlov, hand over the Donbass and everything will change.
      And the fact that now is the price of independent politics. Simply, the majority thought it would be easy to put the Western world on cancer.
      1. Very old
        Very old 12 November 2015 07: 03 New
        12
        Romanov, why are they setting us up?

        Ofulliards flow out of the country - this is D.A. do not care ?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 12 November 2015 09: 49 New
          +3
          Billions are no longer draining so much out of the country, because they can simply be picked up over the hill.
          1. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 12 November 2015 19: 14 New
            -1
            Quote: Vadim237
            Billions are no longer draining so much out of the country, because they can simply be picked up over the hill.
            The net outflow of capital by the private sector in January-October 2015, tentatively, amounted to $ 50,2 billion, compared with $ 105,3 billion for the same period last year, the CBR said.
            http://www.banki.ru/news/bankpress/?id=8437493

            It would seem 2 times less, but you count the rate laughing
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 11: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Very old
          Ofulliards flow out of the country - this is D.A. do not care ?

          They always leaked and will leak. Putin what is said about this? Or Medvedev will win back wink
      2. BMW
        BMW 12 November 2015 07: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hand over Assad, return the Crimea to Khokhlov, hand over the Donbass and everything will change.

        What does it have to do with it? These problems are not so significant as to drive the country into such an ass. The influence of 20 percent, well, 25 maximum.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the fact that now is the price of independent politics.

        Nothing of the kind. The reason is the lack of an elementary understanding of where we are going and what we want. Ask Putin and he won't tell you anything. With a clever look, the next blizzard will carry about the GDP, innovations and the oil needle, but it will certainly say about the unreconsideration of privatization, 37 years old, tightening the belts. One puff and belly, "great" and "empire". tongue
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 11: 41 New
          -1
          Quote: bmw
          at. The influence of 20 percent, well, 25 maximum.

          And how did you calculate this percentage wassat
          Quote: bmw
          The reason is the lack of basic understanding of where we are going and what we want.

          Well, you don’t understand it, and no more.
        2. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 12 November 2015 19: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: bmw
          The reason is the lack of basic understanding of where we are going and what we want. Ask Putin and he will not tell you anything
          He already said lol

          Vladimir Putin: “You see, we have not experienced any large-scale nationalization or a slide towards general administrative regulation. We have preserved the free movement of capital and the convertibility of the ruble. I am sure that all this served as a convincing signal for investors, and I want to emphasize and say again: there will be no return to the past. Russia will remain a liberal market economy. Today I want to repeat once again: we will consistently continue the line of encouraging private initiative, of integration into the world economy, on the formation of a favorable investment climate ".
          http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=317679
          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 12 November 2015 19: 57 New
            0
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            He already said

            year 2009 ???? negative
            Oh well
            1. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 12 November 2015 20: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: Dryuya2
              Oh well
              Wildebeest.

              Is highlighted in bold executed? Yes, in full (not allocated, by the way, also done in full) - Russia remains liberal in the market, has gotten into the WTO, privatization continues.


              2009 course confirmed? Confirmed.

              18.12.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Putin: "With the capital amnesty the issue is not the return of capital, but its legalization"
              http://tass.ru/ekonomika/1656342

              21.01.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX Putin: "We must think about what to do, how to build our policy. Of course, we will act in the logic of a market economy"
              http://www.rg.ru/2015/01/21/putin-ekonomika-site.html


              So you can replace your smiley with a twisting finger at your temple, and subscribe to it like "yes, I am."
          2. nemets
            nemets 12 November 2015 23: 00 New
            +2
            the liberal economy in the usa, what does everyone see it going to - the question is: are we the same stupid people? under Stalin, too, there were sanctions and nothing the country rose from a deeper g ** to, though with heavy losses but rose, and the card system for products was canceled in the 47th or 49th, and in England only 56th. whose economy was the best?
            1. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 12 November 2015 23: 31 New
              +3
              Quote: nemets
              liberal economy in the usa, what does it go to see all
              The natural crisis for capitalism.

              under Stalin there were also sanctions and nothing country rose
              Under Stalin, the goal was to satisfy the needs of the entire population, rather than providing the possibility of overconsumption for 1%.
              And the economy was socialist - not suggesting the possibility to legitimately rob 95% of the country's population.
        3. nemets
          nemets 12 November 2015 22: 55 New
          0
          and what is the use of revising all assets "there". if they come back then maybe they will reconsider, but now you shouldn't scare the oligarchs
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 07: 25 New
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Andrey And why the hell is that, he says what the situation is now,

        stop stand Sanya! I am talking about raising the retirement age, and his words that our average life expectancy has grown tremendously. Let pensioners work like that, otherwise they don’t live and they die at work, so these dolonosy want to take a little penny, so and get to the social explosion. (God forbid) hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 11: 43 New
          -3
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          ! I speak for raising the retirement age, and his words that our average life expectancy has grown tremendously. retirees, and so they work

          1. There is not enough money in the pension fund.
          2. A generation of managers. Lawyers and economists, of whom millions have been grown makes itself felt.
          3. This is a consequence, and the reasons for the sanction.
          1. BMW
            BMW 12 November 2015 12: 12 New
            +7
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            3. This is a consequence, and the reasons for the sanction.

            He turned everything upside down.
            The sanctions are your fault. We have been under these sanctions for almost 100 years, and they have not been hot. And now, you see, they cut everything at the root. Dystrophic legs have grown, which from "big puffed out cheeks" and break. am
      4. Amurets
        Amurets 12 November 2015 07: 59 New
        16
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And why the hell is that, he says what the situation is now, and the fact that many people do not like the situation .......

        And the situation is such that for the island of Russky all the leadership must be shot, maybe under threat of death they will return the stolen, the Vostochny cosmodrome, the Zvezda plant in Bolshoy Kamen, the Sakhalin governor Khoroshavin. This is where the money will be enough for a lot. You will not have to raise the retirement age. Is this Skolkovo? Our "Saint Nemtsov", a poor sufferer, "why did he drag Americans to the Nizhny Novgorod Scientific Center, while secret developments have been carried out there for a long time, including on nuclear weapons. The Novosibirsk branch of the Academy of Sciences goes abroad in whole laboratories. That is where the root of the problem lies. We need to sell American debt obligations, leave the WTO while sanctions are in effect. Sanctions against Russia are a violation of WTO rules. And why we also have to pay money for these sanctions. Now truckers have come out with protests , Fuel prices are going up, pay for the roads, and on February 1, pay twice and what do you think the prices will not rise. I'm February 1917.
        1. edmed
          edmed 12 November 2015 08: 43 New
          11
          In addition to everything else, about pensions, taxes, Mr. Dvorkovich deigned to express bewilderment why fish in Russia are cheaper than meat, so soon you probably have to buy herring at the price of pork tenderloin.
        2. Nzn
          Nzn 12 November 2015 10: 05 New
          +2
          Hmm ... The picture is creepy, and, unfortunately, believable
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 11: 46 New
          -6
          Quote: Amurets
          Carefully read how February 1917 began.

          Well, yes, Crimea returned-uraaaaaaaa
          For Donbass stuck -uraaaaa
          Syria bombing -uraaaaaa
          And here bang began to influence sanctions, but the Americans have nothing to do with it - this is the government.
          So that you live in North Korea, because you are no longer worthy.
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 12 November 2015 14: 02 New
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            There is not enough money in the pension fund.

            And you see what kind of mansions have been built under the management of the pension fund? In Blagoveshchensk it is still so and so, but look in Yakutsk? Yes, in any city, take: the most beautiful building is 99% the building of the pension fund, and how much is stolen and what are the salaries in the pension fund? They asked a friend what her salary was, and she replied: "I don't want to lose my job."
            You cited the quote but did not read it, but elementary the February 1917 riot has nothing to do with Crimea. The revolt in Petrograd began because bread was not delivered on time. And now everyone is bad, everyone is hard, but for some reason they take money from pensioners something to give to the "POVERTY DEPUTIES." hillock, and invest their own in the USA candy wrappers.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 14: 49 New
              -3
              Quote: Amurets
              They asked a friend what her salary was, and she replied: "I don't want to lose my job."

              Stop lying, you are not a journalist, so that she would be afraid to lose her job. Yes, and salaries are not a mystery.
              Quote: Amurets
              Petrograd began due to the fact that bread was not delivered on time.

              There will be no revolutions for you, you won’t remember this, but rather write it on your forehead and look every day in the mirror to remember.
              Quote: Amurets
              , but for some reason the money is taken away from pensioners in order to give it to the "BEGGARED DEPUTIES

              Che you are lying, he cares for pensioners. Yes, you only talk about them on the site and remember when it is profitable.
              Quote: Amurets
              Ado from offshore to pull money and restore and develop their industry and not beg for h

              So go and work, then you’ve scribbled comments, go at least do something.
              1. Amurets
                Amurets 12 November 2015 15: 31 New
                +4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov

                Stop lying, you are not a journalist, so that she would be afraid to lose her job. Yes, and salaries are not a mystery.

                Do you think so? Yes, in any budgetary organization a non-disclosure of state secrets is given and salary is included in state secrets.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov

                There will be no revolutions for you, you won’t remember this, but rather write it on your forehead and look every day in the mirror to remember.

                Do you think so? Do truckers from all over Russia say anything to you? I never belonged to the liberals or revolutionaries, I always thought soberly, I was not a urapatriot, and I know how a piece of bread is earned by working labor and does not need to be freaked out, because this is real. I hear the roar of a political leader who cannot answer the question.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov

                Che you are lying, he cares for pensioners. Yes, you only talk about them on the site and remember when it is profitable.

                I myself am a pensioner and I have forty years of experience. I am 64 years old and I worked as long as my health allowed, therefore, it is possible and respectful.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 13 November 2015 05: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: Amurets
                  Yes, in any budgetary organization a non-disclosure of state secrets is given and salary is included in state secrets.

                  Anecdote of the year ahahaaaaaaaa wassat
                  Quote: Amurets
                  I myself am a pensioner and I have Forty THREE years of experience.

                  But it is noticeable, you must be returned in the 90s.
                  1. Amurets
                    Amurets 13 November 2015 06: 45 New
                    +1
                    So, if you aren’t in the know, take an interest in the forum about how work is being done now, not a work book is now a document, but an employment contract and it clearly and clearly spells out what is the subject of a secret and what is the responsibility for disclosing a secret.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    But it is noticeable, you must be returned in the 90s.

                    You need to get this back in the 90s. I well remember that it cost me a child to learn. And how much work I had when I did not pay a salary for a year. I had to feed my family a side job. You carefully read what the men write about you in the comments on this post. And do not troll me, it won’t work.
              2. BMW
                BMW 12 November 2015 15: 34 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                There will be no revolutions for you, you won’t remember this, but rather write it on your forehead and look every day in the mirror to remember.

                Eat pineapple
                Chew Ryabchikov,
                Your last day
                The bourgeois comes.
                V.V. Mayakovsky.
                Classic however. tongue
              3. Down House
                Down House 12 November 2015 17: 38 New
                -1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Che you are lying, he cares for pensioners. Yes, you only talk about them on the site and remember when it is profitable.

                Here is a "hot" topic on the Internet!
                Any pensioner has children, but what do children do?
                On the Internet, they complain about the "bad life of pensioners" instead of going and helping their parents in any way they can!
                But figs there, they will buy a car, they will make repairs - but only they will not help parents!
              4. vgorlekost
                vgorlekost 13 November 2015 08: 12 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                So go and work, then you’ve scribbled comments, go at least do something.

                This is noticeable to you - that you constantly hang on the site. Dependent, probably ....? 34000 comments to write !!! And the values ​​in them .... only the quantity .....
            2. dvg79
              dvg79 12 November 2015 16: 43 New
              +1
              Yes, the Pension building is impressive here, I wonder what pensioners think looking at it.
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      6. guzik007
        guzik007 12 November 2015 08: 37 New
        +5
        Alexander Romanov (4)
        Andrey hi And why the hell is that, he says what the situation is now, and the fact that many people do not like the situation .......
        Hand over Assad, return the Crimea to Khokhlam, hand over the Donbass and everything will change


        In the garden of elderberry, and in Kiev uncle))
      7. andj61
        andj61 12 November 2015 09: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hand over Assad, return the Crimea to Khokhlov, hand over the Donbass and everything will change.
        And the fact that now is the price of independent politics. Just most thought it would be easy for the western world to put cancer.

        good And here we have to stand for ourselves!
        Only give way ... negative This is somehow not our way! So we survive - there were worse times! yes
      8. anip
        anip 12 November 2015 09: 15 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .Just the majority thought it would be easy to put the Western world on cancer.

        In the meantime, it turns out that they put their own people in cancer. Or maybe, after all, you don’t have to set anyone up with cancer, otherwise you can tear yourself up? Perhaps it is better to engage in the development of industry in your own country? And then oil falls in price, and after it the ruble in the fall does not lag behind.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        he says what is the situation now

        But didn’t he, with his guarantor in the company, bring to such a situation?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 11: 51 New
          -5
          Quote: anip
          But didn’t he, with his guarantor in the company, bring to such a situation?

          Well, you yourself giggled over the sanctions with all the Saite, and now the king is bad? not guys, while people like you are, Russia can’t live normally.
          1. Karabanov
            Karabanov 12 November 2015 15: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            not guys, while people like you are, Russia can’t live normally.

            Or maybe everything is exactly the opposite?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 15: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: Karabanov
              Or maybe everything is exactly the opposite?

              Sit and wait for the revolution and I will wait, I will watch with pleasure how the riot police with batons on the ridge begins to knead the revolutionaries with the subsequent trip to Magadan. Dreaming of 37, get 37!
              1. esaull
                esaull 12 November 2015 16: 43 New
                +2
                This is due to what kind of sanctions they raised the salaries of the deputies of the State Duma who were the poorest among officials. increase the retirement age and rob truckers thereby increasing the cost of goods in stores as they carry goods to stores just trucks?
              2. Uncle Joe
                Uncle Joe 12 November 2015 19: 38 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I will be happy to watch the riot police start kneading the revolutionaries with clubs on the ridge
                And then, with no less pleasure - from the scaffold to the jubilant crowd lol

                Well, you yourself giggled over the sanctions to all the Sait
                And how did the sanctions imposed by the West affect the rise in prices, the devaluation of the ruble, the "need" to raise the retirement age, etc.? smile
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 13 November 2015 05: 50 New
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  And how did the sanctions imposed by the West affect the rise in prices, the devaluation of the ruble, the "need" to raise the retirement age, etc.?

                  You don’t have to understand for a long time. Do not bother, go to Moscow echo buzz catch.
                  1. Uncle Joe
                    Uncle Joe 13 November 2015 10: 34 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    You do not understand long ago
                    The drain is counted.

                    go to the echo of Moscow
                    I have nothing to do there - I, unlike figures with an echo, do not throw poop in the USSR.
                    But you rush with great pleasure, and therefore it is for you to echo the very place.
              3. vgorlekost
                vgorlekost 13 November 2015 08: 27 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Sit and wait for the revolution and I will wait, I will watch with pleasure how the riot police with batons on the ridge begins to knead the revolutionaries with the subsequent trip to Magadan. Dreaming of 37, get 37!

                Here he is - the one who scribbled in 37 denunciations, and spread rot on the people in the camps, during interrogations he beat out testimonies - the namesake of the collapsed empire. We have already lost all conscience, in the open that carries and does not hesitate! And he is also a moderator on the site! Everything, in short, as in the whole country ...
                Maybe he really is an official? For all manners and the level of development and rudeness, it seems to fit, huh?
      9. dvg79
        dvg79 12 November 2015 09: 40 New
        +5
        This is the price of the stupidity, irresponsibility and impunity of our government.
      10. Down House
        Down House 12 November 2015 17: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hand over Assad, return the Crimea to Khokhlov, hand over the Donbass and everything will change.

        Well, nothing will change, the leaders of European countries are mad - give them a finger, they will bite off their hand.
    3. Mera joota
      Mera joota 12 November 2015 06: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Aiphone bears such crap (especially about the "longevity" of my fellow citizens) that apart from the selective, three-story, powerful Russian language, there were no other emotions

      He doesn't have much time left, next year Volodin will definitely "eat" him ...
    4. Very old
      Very old 12 November 2015 06: 59 New
      10
      ANDREY YURYEVICH: ... there were no other emotions.

      I’ll add my emotions to your emotions - anger, indignation and ... surprise - the deputies of the State Duma increase their salaries

      2 (TWO) times !!!!!!!!! am am
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 12 November 2015 08: 19 New
        +8
        Quote: Very old
        I’ll add my emotions to your emotions - anger, indignation and ... surprise - the deputies of the State Duma increase their salaries

        I expressed my indignation even when Siluanov first raised this issue, it was in my opinion in mid-October. But for some reason, on the forum, this proposal of Siluanov did not meet with responses. In my opinion there was another patriotic frenzy about Caliber and I missed this news.
      2. Nzn
        Nzn 12 November 2015 10: 07 New
        0
        Is the decision already made ?! There was talk only about considering raising
      3. Nzn
        Nzn 12 November 2015 10: 07 New
        0
        Is the decision already made ?! There was talk only about considering raising
    5. anip
      anip 12 November 2015 08: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Aifonya bears such crap (especially, about the "longevity" of my fellow citizens)

      Well, they upstairs really live longer.
    6. anfil
      anfil 12 November 2015 11: 20 New
      0
      Andrey Yuryevich
      I almost spat in a box yesterday ...


      Well, they would have spat, then they wiped off with a cloth you look and the screen will be cleaner, and you say there is no benefit from the news.

      For the sake of interest and self-education, google "Retirement age by country."

      Pay attention to such countries as Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Slovakia, Serbia, Romania, etc., you think that the standard of living there is higher than ours.
  • Goga101
    Goga101 12 November 2015 05: 58 New
    +8
    When I was in school, "scientists" frightened us - they say, in 25-30 years the Caspian will dry up and disintegrate into separate lakes ... as a result, the Caspian has risen significantly, but the Aral has dried up ... the meaning of all the statements of these crooks, "scientists "only in one thing - all their" predictions ", this is nothing more than extortion -" give money, otherwise it will be ... " wassat
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    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 12 November 2015 06: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Goga101
      When I was in school, "scientists" frightened us - they say, in 25-30 years the Caspian will dry up and disintegrate into separate lakes

      Maybe you are confusing, then they shouted about the Aral Sea, saying that due to land reclamation in the Syr Darya and Amu Darya, the flow of water into the Aral Sea has decreased and it is threatening to dry out. The fact that the increase in water level in the Caspian Sea and the shallowing of the Aral Sea is periodic in nature and human activity has nothing to do with it. Save the Aral - the slogan of the eighties (one of)
      1. Goga101
        Goga101 12 November 2015 08: 04 New
        +5
        Mera Joota Colleague, I graduated from school in 71st and in the late 60s it was the Caspian Sea that was going to be "saved" ... and the Aral Sea died after the collapse of the USSR, there was no one to regulate the withdrawal of water from the rivers, each now "independent state" pulled from as many rivers as it turned out, so they were additionally managed ... fool
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 12 November 2015 08: 46 New
          +7
          Quote: Goga101
          in the late 60s it was the Caspian Sea that was going to be "saved" ... and the Aral Sea died after

          I confirm the words of Gogi101. I graduated from school in 1968 and around the same years a movement for environmental protection began, opposed the Shevchenko nuclear power plant, the cascade of hydroelectric power plants on the Volga, they say, everything will lead to a shallowing of the Caspian Sea. the revolution was not allowed to flood the Zeya-Bureinskaya plain. It was not widely announced that the sponsor of all these "Scientific Research" was the banker Rothschild, and the goal was to raise money for candy wrappers. That's when the projects of the "Ozone Holes" "Global Warming" began. And then it turned out that this was a gigantic scam for money. article, an echo of that scam called "Protection of nature", which has nothing to do with the protection of nature.
        2. Mera joota
          Mera joota 12 November 2015 09: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Goga101
          Mera Joota Colleague, I graduated from school in 71st and at the end of the 60s it was the Caspian that was going to be "saved"

          Ah ... I don’t remember so far ...
          Quote: Goga101
          and the Aral Sea died after the collapse of the USSR, there was no one to regulate the withdrawal of water from the rivers, each, now "independent state" pulled from the rivers as much as it could, so they continued to manage ...

          It’s all a matter of cyclicality, the Caspian is filled, the Aral becomes shallow, then it will be vice versa, the Caspian will begin to chalk, and the Aral will be filled.
        3. Down House
          Down House 12 November 2015 17: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Goga101
          The Aral Sea died after the collapse of the USSR, there was no one to regulate the withdrawal of water from the rivers, each, now "independent state" pulled from the rivers as much as it could, so they managed

          Yeah - and after that we will say that man does not have a negative impact on nature ?!
      2. dvg79
        dvg79 12 November 2015 10: 00 New
        +2
        No, it doesn’t confuse - before the beginning of the 70s, the level of the Caspian really fell, the bare bottom began to be opened and built up, and that hop began to grow. The dynamics of the Caspian level are well described by the Gumilyov historian and respected geography.
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 12 November 2015 10: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: dvg79
          The dynamics of the Caspian level is well described by the Gumilev historian, and he respected geography.

          Well, at the bottom of the Aral Sea, the city was found dating back to the 6th century ...
          1. Down House
            Down House 12 November 2015 17: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Mera Joota
            Well, at the bottom of the Aral Sea, the city was found dating back to the 6th century

            I don't know anything about it, another "sensation"?
            Here - take a look.
            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Caspian_sea_history.jp
            g / 800px-Caspian_sea_history.jpg
        2. V.ic
          V.ic 12 November 2015 10: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: dvg79
          The dynamics of the Caspian level is well described by the Gumilev historian, and he respected geography.

          The fact of the matter is that Lev Nikolayevich defended his first dissertation on the profile of geography, and for his ethnology, official science has long spread rot, did not allow to publish and defend himself on the profile of "history".
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 12 November 2015 10: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Maybe you are confusing, then they shouted about the Aral Sea, saying that due to land reclamation in the Syr Darya and Amu Darya, the flow of water into the Aral Sea has decreased and it is threatening to dry out. The fact that the increase in water level in the Caspian Sea and the shallowing of the Aral Sea is periodic in nature and human activity has nothing to do with it. Save the Aral - the slogan of the eighties (one of)

        No, not confusing.
        At the same time, the idea was born of transferring the waters of northern rivers to the Caspian, as part of which several underground nuclear explosions were carried out in the North of the Perm Territory. I was just living there at that time and they were wagging 80 km from the village. Fortunately, the project was canceled, otherwise they would have received radioactive infection along the channels of the Kolva, Kama and Volga rivers to the Caspian. There was a man-made lake, scrap metal and barbed wire as a keepsake.
  • Glot
    Glot 12 November 2015 06: 31 New
    +6
    That glaciation, then warming, then azone holes or asteroids ... what they just did not scare us. And how many "ends of the world" we have experienced.
    What will be will be. Let's see when (if) it will be.
    In the meantime, there are problems closer and more real. And they need to be addressed.
  • exalex2
    exalex2 12 November 2015 06: 31 New
    +8
    "Russian Health Minister Veronika Skvortsova considers raising the retirement age to be beneficial for the health of Russian citizens, TASS reported on Wednesday."
    http://www.forbes.ru/news/305379-minzdrav-nazval-povyshenie-pensionnogo-vozrasta

    -poleznym-dlya-zdorovya
    And you are talking about warming .. It's not that simple. Soon We will become immortal, and this is no longer a **** dog. The "government" cares and knows what it says. And the main thing Putin likes this nonsense, otherwise I see no point in keeping such a crowd of vanging "eggheads" carrying yet another nonsense.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 07: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: exalex2
      Soon we will become immortal

      if only zombies bite everyone ....
      1. vgorlekost
        vgorlekost 12 November 2015 09: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: exalex2
        Soon we will become immortal

        if only zombies bite everyone ....

        Yeah. There was just one somewhere ...
        1. exalex2
          exalex2 12 November 2015 14: 18 New
          0
          Quote: vgorlekost
          Yeah. There was just one somewhere ...

          Time endures.
    2. anfil
      anfil 12 November 2015 11: 39 New
      +5
      [quote = exalex2] "Russian Health Minister Veronika Skvortsova considers raising the retirement age beneficial for the health of Russian citizens, TASS news agency reported on Wednesday."

      In and I about the same
  • parusnik
    parusnik 12 November 2015 06: 34 New
    +4
    I don’t know how in the North, it’s warmer or not, but what has become warmer in the South .. it's a fact .. in the 70-80 years .. The Kuban and the Sea of ​​Azov regularly froze, there were heavy snows .., played hockey, skated from 90's to the present, snow and ice freezing is like an anomaly .. in summer it goes to + 40 ...
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    2. Aleksander
      Aleksander 12 November 2015 06: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      I don’t know how in the North, it’s warmer or not, but what has become warmer in the South .. it's a fact .. in the 70-80 years .. The Kuban and the Sea of ​​Azov regularly froze, there were heavy snows .., played hockey, skated from 90's to the present, snow and ice freezing is like an anomaly .. in summer it goes to + 40 ...


      Odessa and Moldova, the same thing happens - no ice, no snow, skiing and ice skating forgotten and abandoned ....
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 07: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Aleksander
        Quote: parusnik
        I don’t know how in the North, it’s warmer or not, but what has become warmer in the South .. it's a fact .. in the 70-80 years .. The Kuban and the Sea of ​​Azov regularly froze, there were heavy snows .., played hockey, skated from 90's to the present, snow and ice freezing is like an anomaly .. in summer it goes to + 40 ...


        Odessa and Moldova, the same thing happens - no ice, no snow, skiing and ice skating forgotten and abandoned ....

        but in Iraq, icy rivers ... in Iraq, damn it !!!
      2. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer 12 November 2015 07: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: parusnik
        I don’t know how in the North, it’s warmer or not, but what has become warmer in the South .. it's a fact .. in the 70-80 years .. The Kuban and the Sea of ​​Azov regularly froze, there were heavy snows .., played hockey, skated from 90's to the present, snow and ice freezing is like an anomaly .. in summer it goes to + 40 ...

        I’ve been living in Yakutia so since the late 90s we have almost the same thing, only numbers and signs
        others. And so, some 15-20 years ago, on November 7th, -30-35 frosts were in the afternoon and at night -38-40 now -15-18 in the afternoon -18-22 at night, Epiphany frosts for -50
        tumbled, now for -40 will fall and that is good, children do not study.
        In 2013, it was a madhouse altogether, imagine on November 1, a gorgeous hat of snow lies on the ground and the sky drizzles and the temperature is 0, at the end of March this year it also rains and then the wind and frost -20 we never had such anomalies, November and March months in the weather are considered in winter, spring and autumn are only on the calendar.
        Well, the last write koment and outside the window -18 and should -38, one is good for heating
        save. crying hi
        1. zav
          zav 12 November 2015 08: 43 New
          +2
          January 79th, Chulman, -64. I tested it in my own skin.
          1. science fiction writer
            science fiction writer 12 November 2015 09: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: zav
            January 79th, Chulman, -64. I tested it in my own skin.

            I believe that there is this South Yakut lowland if the frost presses a little will not seem.
            1. Nzn
              Nzn 12 November 2015 10: 38 New
              +2
              Where would the lowlands come from? Chulman itself is mainly located on the banks of the river of the same name, between the hills. And in lowlands and glens, the temperature is always lower in winter - when the hill is -35, then at the foot there can be -50.
              Although basically yes, the temperature will be higher in recent years. Now is -11 in the afternoon in Neryungri.
              1. science fiction writer
                science fiction writer 12 November 2015 10: 56 New
                +2
                Where would the lowlands come from?

                You look at the wider and not only the Neryungri district. hi
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        2. Erg
          Erg 12 November 2015 10: 15 New
          +1
          Norilsk is the same. It is getting warm specifically. Soon it will be possible to plant potatoes ...
    3. Amurets
      Amurets 12 November 2015 09: 16 New
      +2
      The planet periodically has periods of warming and cooling. Meteorologists have tables of these periods. Popular Mechanics magazine had a long article about these periods and the overlap of large and small periods and what climate changes are taking place. In addition to climate change, an accident at the company's oil fields SHELL in the Gulf of Mexico. The oil that spilled into the sea was precipitated by chemicals and precipitated and now affects the Gulf Stream, the stove of Europe. But this topic needs to be understood and understood, the main thing is that, after the accident in the oil fields, this current changed its path and goes to the Kara Sea.
    4. Pulya
      Pulya 12 November 2015 15: 21 New
      0
      I fully confirm that previously hockey was cut to death ... and now there is one slush.
      I live in Norilsk with 96, after 2005 it really became warmer than winter and the spring thaw begins much earlier
  • sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 12 November 2015 07: 12 New
    +6
    I was always annoyed by stupid pseudo-scientists who, having taken one changed natural parameter, begin to make calculations for thousands of years ahead based on its change and wave it like a flag. Apparently one gyrus in the brain and one that caught the eye of a natural phenomenon just fit together. For correct calculations, it is necessary to take into account tens of thousands, and maybe millions of parameters.
  • Signaller
    Signaller 12 November 2015 07: 20 New
    +1
    Russian experts immediately stated that, but global warming is a big plus for Russia. Like, well, let it flood the "bear corners" of the Arctic, but somewhere in Karelia it will already be possible to grow sunflower on an industrial scale
    Interesting opinions. HIGHLY. Only now there are scientists who write, shout that when the permafrost thaws from the upper layers of the soil, methane gas is released. Now it is bound by permafrost and few come to its surface. But when these swamps melt, it will not seem weak. Methane is for reference greenhouse gas. When it enters the atmosphere in large quantities there will be a more intense heating of the atmosphere and the process of permafrost melting will accelerate, which, in their opinion, is a bomb for the entire ecosystem of the planet.
  • Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 12 November 2015 07: 24 New
    +3
    In the Urals, neither warming nor cooling is noticeable. Everything is as it was 50 years ago. Maybe 50 years is not a deadline for such events? Most likely it is. And as for vanging, everyone is vanging and frightening, money is being sucked out in this way ... Nevertheless, in 2 days I’m going to go to the First Ice for pikes with zherlitsy and like 20 years ago.
    1. Karabanov
      Karabanov 12 November 2015 07: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: Tatar 174
      In the Urals, neither warming nor cooling is noticeable.

      Well in Siberia, one way or another, the climate is gradually changing. In the summer, an abnormal heat occurs, and winters, according to the assurances of the old-timers, became much milder.
      In principle, there are meteorological calculations, and climate change can be compared by year.
    2. Mangel olys
      Mangel olys 12 November 2015 09: 03 New
      0
      In our Volga region, Ministry of Emergency Situations promise ice in the second decade of December. And this is not the first year. About five years ago, in November, we started fishing on the first ice.
      1. dvg79
        dvg79 12 November 2015 10: 05 New
        +1
        Don’t you want the ice at Astrakhan at 1600m on August 15? Winter is at hand.
    3. Wheel
      Wheel 12 November 2015 17: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Tatar 174
      In the Urals, neither warming nor cooling is noticeable. Everything is as it was 50 years ago. Maybe 50 years is not a deadline for such events? Most likely it is. And as for vanging, everyone is vanging and frightening, money is being sucked out in this way ... Nevertheless, in 2 days I’m going to go to the First Ice for pikes with zherlitsy and like 20 years ago.

      How noticeable!
      The bird cherry cold of about 20 years already was gone.
      Frosts in May used to be regular, now rare, similar to August.
      The rivers get up and open a week or two earlier, it’s like an avid fisherman I speak responsibly.
      And on average, both winter and summer have become warmer.
      1. BMW
        BMW 13 November 2015 00: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Wheel
        And on average, both winter and summer have become warmer.

        There is such a thing observed.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 November 2015 07: 29 New
    +3
    The human influence on the processes of global warming or cooling is negligible. One active volcano throws out so much rubbish in a couple of weeks that the entire industry in China cannot be compared in a year. For Russia, year-round navigation along the Northern Sea Route is a blessing. And we will solve the food problems of the country ourselves. Without Argentine. The retirement age will be raised - this is how the "demographic hole" takes place. They did not want to give birth in the 90s - and now, it covered. And why object to arithmetic? And the sanctions have nothing to do with it, they have not changed the population by age.
    1. Down House
      Down House 12 November 2015 17: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Human influence on global warming or cooling is negligible.

      Insignificant is not insignificant, but it is!
      And yet it is more than significant in the overall ecology of the planet. Because:
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      One active volcano in a couple of weeks throws out so much rubbish that the entire industry of China in a year can not be compared.

      This is an obvious exaggeration; no one has died from oncology from the volcanic eruption or even got sick, but in industrial cities they die only like that.
  • Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 12 November 2015 07: 36 New
    +6
    Some crap fool These so-called "scientists" themselves do not really fucking understand. Climate change does not depend on human activity, it is a planetary process.
  • exalex2
    exalex2 12 November 2015 07: 42 New
    +3
    In the Russian Empire, the Supplier of the Court of His Imperial Majesty, just believe, ALL the words with a capital letter, was Belarus, and delivered Pineapples .. Incredibly, but it is a fact.
    1. Volodin
      12 November 2015 12: 22 New
      +2
      Nothing incredible. Belarus still supplies ... For example, shrimp and salmon caught somewhere "near Gomel" ... Well, you get the idea.
  • Support
    Support 12 November 2015 07: 43 New
    +7
    I am stunned by this in the photo - there is an increase in life expectancy throughout the world. This is just an unfounded statement. Our guardians of the people need slaves ...... and they will receive them - for we became just a herd .....
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 November 2015 08: 15 New
      +5
      for we just became a herd
      Just believe the democracy and power of the people is not the same thing.
      1. Erg
        Erg 12 November 2015 10: 22 New
        0
        Democracy in principle is a complete utopia. In fact, a dictatorship rules the world.
    2. BMW
      BMW 12 November 2015 08: 20 New
      +3
      Good evening fellow countryman.
      Quote: Prop
      . Our guardians of the people need slaves ...... and they will receive them - for we have simply become a herd ...

      There is such a process, progressing by leaps and bounds. They are leading us to slaughter.
      1. Erg
        Erg 12 November 2015 10: 25 New
        +1
        Quite right. This can be seen "with the naked eye". I'm surprised that not everyone ...
      2. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 12 November 2015 10: 44 New
        11
        Well, this iPhone did say so - they began to live too long, loafers.
        .
        About five years ago, vagrants from the PFR besieged us - let's join various programs, complicity, attraction, increase.
        Then he learned that the LIVING TIME is calculated at 19 years.
        Those. it is believed that in 60 he retired, in 79 must die. Women, respectively, at 74.
        And if you live beyond that indicated, it means that the state is simply TUMPING unmeasured grandmothers into you. Going around the state, it turns out. The teeth are fresh, strong, the body requires proteins with tangerines and Kolyma bananas - one expense, in its purest form.
        .
        And now you listen to these .... very-practical-thinking-leaders ... I will drop the letter ... and I want to howl from impotence.
        Golden parachutes, 2-3-4 lmn salary per day, increase for deputies .... but how many people can be considered for plants?
        The fines are growing and growing, the business has been squeezed - not to dry out, small, medium ... markets are empty before our eyes.
        Salary indexation remained in the memories.
        .
        There is also the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Economics having fun as they want. "Nothing remains of the Stabilization Fund .." - a statement. Normal, huh? Or there will be nothing left in three years.
        There is still the Ministry of Defense in full swing. And it’s fighting - it’s good that it’s successfully fighting. Till.
        There is .. well, about all these chips Russian-Olympics-Football have already said.
        .
        In short, the sentence:
        Or we must collectively die - men in 60, women in 55. In order to ease the burden on the FIU. And then, you understand, LADY have nowhere to steal money from.
        Or, following the example of the long-range fighting, start organizing letters. Not Happiness, no.
        A letter of indignation.
        ....
        What Putin will say on the message. 12 December. Already begin to discuss, buzz.
        Exactly the same as a year ago, two back, three back.
        Absolutely - N I H E G O.
        although there will be many words and letters.
        .
        I’m not that to puff - "... I am offended for the state"
        1. Erg
          Erg 12 November 2015 15: 52 New
          -1
          I am very impressed with the president. But He is not Stalin ... There are no such powers. Otherwise, perhaps everything would be different ...
          1. dvg79
            dvg79 12 November 2015 16: 32 New
            +6
            There are powers to spread rot on the people, increase payments to the top, but no to protect the people?
          2. yuriy55
            yuriy55 12 November 2015 16: 34 New
            +3
            ... There are no such powers ...


            I really don’t know how to be here? Change the timing of the presidency - YES! To ask for authority in a national referendum - NO! request

            I do not believe all sorts of different prophets, but under the execution of Chubais and Serdyukov, the people will give any authority ... yes
            1. Erg
              Erg 12 November 2015 17: 01 New
              0
              Remember how the president came. Nowhere. "Receiver". The conclusion is obvious - he is a protégé. Who is behind him, I can only guess. So I wouldn't blame him. He has done a lot already. "Thank you" and on this ...
              1. BMW
                BMW 13 November 2015 00: 26 New
                +1
                Quote: Erg
                "Thank you" and that's it ..

                And thanks and retirement honors. The increase however is suitable for retirement officials. wink
  • Stinger
    Stinger 12 November 2015 07: 44 New
    +3
    What is the point of raising the retirement age? Well, increase by 3 years. And in three years they will come to the same state from which they started. Or do they think that during this time the authors of the idea will leave the government, and pensioners will die of happiness, but this will not concern them?
    1. dvg79
      dvg79 12 November 2015 10: 07 New
      +1
      In that no one lived up to it. Economy !!!
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 12 November 2015 14: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: dvg79
        In that no one lived up to it. Economy !!!

        And from my class, half of the 1968 graduation remained. And then some girls. Of the 15 guys, nine were buried before retirement. That is, up to 60 years.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 12 November 2015 16: 23 New
        0
        DVG79 may I ask a question? Are you an Amur or Bashkir Annunciation
        1. dvg79
          dvg79 12 November 2015 16: 56 New
          0
          I graduated from the EHF BSPU (Amur region), department of Geography-Biology, so a little "in the subject."
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 12 November 2015 17: 22 New
            0
            According to the comments, there are no complaints or questions. I was just interested in fellow countrymen or not. It turns out fellow countrymen
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 12 November 2015 16: 51 New
      +1
      What is the point of raising the retirement age ...
      In a meaningless extension of the agony of payments.
      Personal opinion on the appointment of pensions:
      Each person working in a certain position receives a monetary reward (salary, payments, etc.) according to his labor participation, and the size of such payments is very, very different. But we accept a certain average level of wages. Why?...
      But when he retires, he is simply the most ordinary pensioner. And it is not yet known who, upon reaching retirement age, brought more benefits ...
      We will be fair and state pension payments for a year of work experience will be assigned equally for the General Prosecutor and for the teacher of the gymnasium ... We will take into account the nuances of fulfilling the duties of the president, motherhood and the number of children born (adopted) and forward ...
      Most importantly, no one will be offended, because you will need to work out any number of years, in accordance with your requests for retirement and not spend extra money on feeding a large number of PF employees who count money in this very fund ... what
  • exalex2
    exalex2 12 November 2015 07: 58 New
    +1
    Nobody wants to take natural processes into account. Everyone oppresses their point of view (line). The Earth is CHANGING and we are with it. How many times this has happened. Making noise from "measurements" 100 years ago .. It's just stupid. And for billions of years there is data ..?
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 12 November 2015 08: 16 New
    +2
    The problem of megapoles is their dependence on the supply of resources and food. Now any city will limit its supply and the population will begin to migrate. That's the problem - not empty land that no one is engaged in, but moving away from the village to the cities! This is the problem of the future. Today will seem to anyone then the happiest. And today they recall the happy socialism under the USSR. Everything is relative.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 November 2015 08: 20 New
    +3
    With regard to changes in the weather, the changes are more global than just warming. Floods in Europe, snow in Africa. the appearance of a tornado in Russia.
    As for the sanctions. Please list what sanctions are specifically applied to the state of Russia. In the meantime, I heard about the restrictions of individual officials.
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  • zav
    zav 12 November 2015 08: 40 New
    +1
    For some reason, the opinion of other scientists who say that from warming - if it does happen - will not be good either in Russia or around the world. The fact is that due to overheating, the southern regions with fertile soil and cultivated farmland will be subjected to severe droughts and desertification, of course, with a loss of productivity. Areas of the middle zone with a weak fertile layer will require a lot of work and time to regionalize new cultures of soil build-up brought by humus. Areas of the Far North will float after thawing permafrost, buildings will fall, and roads go into swamps. The animal and plant world will suffer the most because there will be no one to save it.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 12 November 2015 08: 42 New
    +2
    The climate is changing, I draw these conclusions from observations in the area where I live. On the one hand, the climate is getting warmer, on the other hand, the number of various anomalies is increasing. More often in the fall, trees bloom. Animals do not hibernate. There are more strong winds, sudden changes in temperature. The pendulum swings, more and more, increasing the amplitude.
  • Mercury
    Mercury 12 November 2015 09: 25 New
    +1
    Yes, it’s warmer, it’s warmer, but all sorts of surprises are getting stronger This year in Sochi all summer and September are dry (and this is in the humid subtropic) and hot (December 30, around 150) and only two rains and both summers were record-breaking in summer and 6mm yesterday hours have fallen.
  • YurokR
    YurokR 12 November 2015 09: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Karabanov
    Such a government must be driven away by a filthy broom. The virtues are damn.

    I agree with you!
    1. Erg
      Erg 12 November 2015 15: 57 New
      0
      And then what? Who will replace it? You can not only eat a head ... fool
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 12 November 2015 10: 01 New
    +2
    It is bad when half-wise decisions are made in the country: the reasoning is correct, and the conclusions are not correct.
    For such cases in Russia there was a saying "they heard the ringing, but they do not know where it is" and there were also the terms half-bag and vice versa half-rock.
    As for raising the retirement age, the expected economic effect will not be achieved. Those who think half do not analyze the attendant circumstances.
    Some of the pensioners are working now, but the vast majority of this group do not work by profession, but occupy unskilled low-paying jobs, thereby improving their financial situation, the older generation helps young families in crisis situations (loans, job loss, and children need feed every day), which periodically occurs in most.
    Pensioners who have completely lost their ability to work are not registered in any way, and there are a lot of such people.
    What will happen when raising the retirement age — persons who have completely or partially lost their ability to work, and such an absolute majority in these age groups, will need to be provided with a disability pension — and where is the savings? Tensions in the social environment are inevitable. Of course, the meaning of raising the retirement age is in the genocide of the population, but does the country need this? The population of older age groups is a pillar of power — is it necessary for the authorities to lose this pillar? Here, too, you need to think carefully.
    In general, in resolving the issue of raising the retirement age, it is necessary to carefully analyze all aspects, not only financial, but also social, etc. And the understanding should be comprehensive, which cannot be trusted to those who think half.
  • Wise Kaa
    Wise Kaa 12 November 2015 10: 12 New
    +2
    This winter, geographic scientists worked on several fishing vessels of enterprises belonging to the Pollock Producers Association. They studied the birds of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. It turns out that the concentration of birds is the same as half a century ago - 10 birds per square kilometer, but the species composition is changing. More and more heat-loving birds (earlier the guillemots and buzzards predominated, and now stupid petrels and gulls), because the average annual glaciation of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is declining. The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is warming.
  • Rash
    Rash 12 November 2015 10: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Tatar 174
    In the Urals, neither warming nor cooling is noticeable. Everything is as it was 50 years ago.


    Well yes?! In Bashkiria, we no longer remember the 40-gram. frosts. Frost -30 only a few days a year.
  • Yutas
    Yutas 12 November 2015 11: 40 New
    +3
    And the "experts" do not think that the thawing of permafrost in our north will lead to disaster? All structures were built taking into account the permafrost. Houses, for example, will simply collapse, since there are no foundations there, but they are standing on piles. And the quarries and mines? Will flood nafig.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 12 November 2015 12: 05 New
    +7
    Quote: lexx2038
    that Russians began to live longer and there are not enough pensions for everyone.

    And the fact that Russia caught up with Europe in youth unemployment is nothing! There aren’t enough workers, so there they are. Engage young people, there will be new taxpayers. How is the program to create 25 million jobs, all the same! older people will work out to the new retirement border - and the youth are even worse! Places are not vacated. hi
  • plut-k
    plut-k 12 November 2015 12: 10 New
    +3
    Hi,

    I just signed the petition “To the Mayor of Novosibirsk, Anatoly Evgenievich Lokot: A resident of Novosibirsk was sentenced to 7 years of strict regime for protecting his family.”

    It is important. Sign up?

    Here is the link:

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    1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%80%D1
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    Thank you,

    Alexander
    1. dmb
      dmb 12 November 2015 15: 11 New
      +2
      Dear Alexander, in a normal state, as soon as the mayor gets into his own affairs, he should be sent into jail himself. Only in this case can you achieve at least some respect for the law, including when defending innocently convicted persons.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 12 November 2015 16: 27 New
        +2
        Dear Alexander and Dmitry!

        A little irony:
        - Mayors of cities need to be removed every time after five years and shot!
        - Why in five ???
        - In five years there will be, "why" ...
        lol
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 November 2015 12: 38 New
    +1
    Do not think that warming will bring an abundance of unprecedented fruit, but also:
    1) mosquitoes, malaria, tsetse flies of various species,
    2) black rats --- plague peddlers,
    3) acute intestinal infections --- as in Guatemala,
    4) in the rivers --- poisonous tropical fish, jellyfish, worms, etc.,
    5) poisonous spiders, scorpions, centipedes, snakes, etc.,
    6) etc.
    Of course, all this will happen gradually, but the beginning of a similar process in Our Country has already been noticed.
    It's time to take an example from China --- to build artificial islands ourselves, to build up and strengthen the coastline. This is an old technique, it was used even in the USSR.
    A separate serious problem is the formation of "craters" in our North as a result of global warming.
  • Massik
    Massik 12 November 2015 13: 37 New
    +8
    I can’t understand such articles, we have been living in the Market for 33 years according to its laws and rules. In any city, enter the market and everything is exactly the same, only on a different scale. What kind of desire are you talking about and for someone ??? We do not have the very idea that would unite the people into one whole.
    That’s why we live and what we strive for in this particular country?
    I dont know.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 12 November 2015 16: 20 New
      +1
      Almost 23 ... But I like the train of thought!
  • Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 12 November 2015 13: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: anfil
    Russian Health Minister Veronika Skvortsova believes raising the retirement age is beneficial for the health of Russian citizens, TASS news agency reported on Wednesday.

    Well, where will they get so many jobs? One defense industry can not do here, the development of the economy should, the restoration of industry. In the meantime, they sell natural resources on a cheap basis and spend the proceeds on the purchase of goods that they themselves could produce, then all this is talk in favor of increasing unemployment. And unemployment pay a minimum living wage, which is significantly lower than the average pension. So this is another way for our liberal government to save on the poor! angry
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 13 November 2015 01: 40 New
      0
      Well, where will they get so many jobs?

      Clever question.
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 12 November 2015 13: 55 New
    +7
    Our LADY has always been far from the people! And the longer he sits in office, the further. How can we talk about raising the retirement age if our people simply do not live to see it? Especially men. Last year was especially fruitful. Almost 30 more of us died than in the previous year. Probably from "improving life" in itself, and medicine in particular. If the rate of population decline does not change, then soon there will be no one to retire!
    As for the article on climate warming and the reduction in the area of ​​the country, then no one really knows anything. Some are spraying with saliva, shouting from all the boxes that there is warming, while others are shouting in the same way that an ice age is coming. The time will come and the people who will then live will figure out for themselves what to do under the new conditions. Humanity cannot change the climate yet. And if it can, it’s so numb that it’s better not to touch the climate.
  • Rich-ksy
    Rich-ksy 12 November 2015 14: 53 New
    +2
    And I recently salted the "Argentinean" bacon. True, for this I had to deploy it for a day. I'll try this weekend
  • sisa29
    sisa29 12 November 2015 16: 02 New
    +2
    gentlemen, everything is gone !! Yes, if every year, yes, according to Andor, it washes off, then after some 34 years mother will not remain from Russia. Catastrophe!!! Urgent, urgent need to throw all resources and forces to this scourge !!!
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 12 November 2015 16: 17 New
    +2
    What will happen tomorrow, cooling or warming is unknown! The joke of the times of the USSR sounds actual ...

    Newsstand Ad: There is no "Truth", "Soviet Russia" is all sold, there is only "Trud" for 3 kopecks. crying
  • dvg79
    dvg79 12 November 2015 17: 25 New
    +1
    I'm listening to Fursov's lecture "Russia in 1907-17" right now (I recommend it to everyone) - the situation is almost one-on-one with the modern one. The same oligarchization of power, the dominance of foreign capital, the growth of social problems - everyone knows what this led to, but it looks like our lawyers and economists at the top have safely skipped history.
  • GraveBezKresta
    GraveBezKresta 12 November 2015 17: 39 New
    +4
    The horde of "Putin's friends" can be compared with the Tatar-Mongol horde. All juices are also squeezed out of Russia. And the fact that the world oligarchy, represented by the United States and England, attacked this horde does not mean that Putin began a confrontation with the West on his own initiative. This is how Mamai defeated Tokhtamysh. One oligarchic horde devours another. The Russians freed themselves from the Tatar-Mongol yoke when the horde was decayed from within and attacked by external enemies. History is science!
  • Erg
    Erg 12 November 2015 20: 39 New
    +1
    Very competently reflect. The main question arises (I am on politics) - what to do? It's easy to criticize.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 November 2015 00: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: Erg
      Very competently reflect. The main question arises (I am on politics) - what to do? It's easy to criticize.

      Think! Think and Think. How did the "Bloody Resurrection" begin in Russia? With the "Petition for Workers' Needs". How did the February Revolution begin? From the fact that grain supplies to Petrograd were disrupted. And if you look at all the uprisings and coups in Russia in the 20th century, they were economic in nature. Political demands appeared later. Now, out of bewilderment or malicious intent, he is pursuing the same policy of anger And now we need to think about how to get out of this situation without much damage. The government showed that it cannot run the state in conditions of economic difficulties, but I am not Zverev, the chairman of the State Bank under S.V. Stalin, who was able to solve this problem.
      1. BMW
        BMW 13 November 2015 00: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Amurets
        Think! Think and Think.

        We have another two and a half years to think about. If this time we dig into the nose, I'm afraid that blood will spill. History is a stubborn thing, you cannot argue with it.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 13 November 2015 06: 26 New
          0
          Quote: bmw
          Quote: Amurets
          Think! Think and Think.

          We have another two and a half years to think about. If this time we dig into the nose, I'm afraid that blood will spill. History is a stubborn thing, you cannot argue with it.

          I agree! Now every day is news. In the Baltic countries, those who voted to leave the USSR are already taking up this Middle East crisis. In principle, Ronaldas Paulauskas correctly expressed his opinion in the news and opinions on VO that this is a fight for a US printing press, Analysis a very clear and unambiguous conclusion; whoever wins in Syria will dictate his will. And I don’t understand Romanov? The people are already angry, and he still adds fuel to the fire. Indeed, no one in the government has calculated how many prices in stores will jump. In December, the government plans to charge 1rub53kop per kilometer on highways with vehicles with a carrying capacity of more than 12 tons. That means fuel prices will skyrocket. Fuel is a pricing product, and now calculate how many prices will skyrocket. From February 1, the government plans to double the price of the bus. That’s s3,06 On February, the road fare increases to 24 rubles. This is not a fake, it was in the news of the economy on Yandex and on the Russia-XNUMX mailbox. also in the news of the economy.