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"Syrian adventure"

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This definition of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria I heard in a recent interview with Igor Strelkov. These words were unexpected precisely from him, because they coincided with the definitions of the State Department and ukroSMI. Maybe this time they are telling the truth, and the Strelkov coincides with them against their will?




I did not read such comments from Russian analysts, although all of them were announced en masse to be affiliated with the Kremlin. But what about General Ivashov, who was all glowing, speaking of the operation of the VKS in Syria and the attack of Caliber cruise missiles? The well-known oppositionist Eduard Limonov, who was definitely not affiliated, also fully supported the Syrian operation of the VKS. By the way, he managed to create his own party, and the Kremlin was unable to prevent him ...

How to deal with the responses of many Western experts and even the military, who are talking about the effective work of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria? And the State Department with the Pentagon, speaking of the "Syrian adventure", then suddenly fall into pessimism and deep thought. Although they should probably rejoice, as they rejoice in all our mistakes and tragedies.

Analysts with a name like Henry Kissinger talk about the undoubted success of Russia in the Middle East, that it forces out of the USA region, Russophobes with a name like Senator McCain sprinkle ashes on their head, and fall upon the weakling Obama. Only sophisticated conspiracy can explain all these incidents and continue to talk about the "Syrian adventure", or belief in the infallibility of its author. Or something else you don’t want to think about ...

Conspiracy is appropriate in other cases, but there are no clues in this to explain the recent Syrian events by some Washington multi-pass. Why Igor Strelkov got into bad company with the State Department, and not with General Ivashov, I do not understand.

It is also not clear why, speaking of Syria, Strelkov in his interview did not mention Iran and Iraq at all. That is, he does not know, or does not attach importance to the fact that Russia entered Syria in a coalition with Iran, which is already sending ground troops to Syria, and Iraq, where a joint information and intelligence center of the coalition has been created. In addition, there is also the political support of Egypt, where our Airborne Forces conduct joint exercises.

Thanks to the coalition created, Moscow added an air bridge over Iran and Iraq to Syria to the sea “Syrian express train” through the Turkish straits, through which our fighters flew, which is also used to supply our group in Latakia. Two supply bridges - is this much better than one?

The threat of Turkey closing the straits for our military courts, in which Strelkov sees the American hook for Russia, is, by the way, the threat of a war between Russia and Turkey, with NATO or without NATO. Because there is an international treaty on these straits, and this should be known to military experts. And it will also lead to a one-time stop 60% of the Turkish industry, which is supplied with Russian gas through the existing Blue Stream gas pipeline. So, who has someone on the hook is not at all obvious.

Even if Turkey closes the straits, there remains an air bridge and a friendly Egypt in this situation. In the event of a global confrontation with the United States, the bases in Syria turn into our advanced outpost, relying on all the countries of the established coalition. Then it will mean, in fact, the beginning of the Third World War, the analysis of which goes beyond the limits of our competence.

By the way, the operation in Syria has already produced results. If earlier Western experts talked about the fall of Damascus for several weeks, today they have fallen silent. The army of Bashar al-Assad, with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces, from the air and Iranian military contingents on the ground, launched an offensive and achieved first victories. Moscow prevented the fall of Damascus Assad and the creation of an ISIS state centered on Damascus!

There is reason to believe that the US plan in Syria was in such a development of events. Then Washington could transform ISIS into a moderate regime, and use it for its own purposes, or bomb ISIS and Syria into the Stone Age, as he likes to do it, and lead its puppets to the ruins. In any case, Russia would be completely ousted from this key region of the world. So what? - other patriots of the Motherland will say, - this is “not our war”.

No, my friends, this is our war, as they say, on distant approaches. Let us pass them - the war will come to us, to the North Caucasus, we know about the plans of our "colleagues".

The Syrian war brings to mind the civil war in Spain in the 30 of the last century, the Spanish Republicans with the pro-fascist dictator Franco. Then Franco, with the support of Hitler and Mussolini and the friendly neutrality of the Western colonial "democracies", defeated the anti-fascist Republicans, our help to them was insufficient.

But if then the Republicans would have won in Spain, история would go the other way, the Second World War was delayed and Russia managed to rearm. Therefore, today in Syria, Russia is doing everything possible to win the secular, allied state of Bashar al-Assad.

In general, the Syrian war evokes many analogies with the Spanish war, which became the forerunner of the Second World War, unleashed by Hitler. Does the story really go in a circle, and the world cannot do anything about it?

... The Internet-party “Putinslil” from this “oil painting” is far, it wages war only with Kiev in Ukraine, all other platforms of the world hybrid war with Washington are not interesting for it, it exposes them to PR of the Kremlin and the next CPP.

And for some reason, he does not notice that it turns out in this case in a bad company ...
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  1. Aleksander
    Aleksander 12 November 2015 05: 54 New
    -13
    This is Strelkov’s assessment and - he has the right to do this - they should not all blow into one pipe. Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.
    1. Mahmut
      Mahmut 12 November 2015 06: 11 New
      +7
      Because there is an international treaty on these straits, and this should be known to military experts.

      International treaties are effective only in peacetime. And military experts know this. A pessimist is an informed optimist. Better to overtake than to cap on. And the rest of the time it will. Elections in Syria will show who will benefit from the fruits of victory.
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      3. The lead
        The lead 12 November 2015 07: 49 New
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        Quote: Kamenev
        These words were unexpected precisely from him, because they coincided with the definitions of the State Department and Ukrainian Media.
        Slander: Strelkov argued that troops had to be brought into Syria earlier; larger forces had to be introduced than were actually entered.
        Quote: Kamenev
        What about the responses of many Western experts and even the military, who talk about the effective work of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria? And the State Department and the Pentagon, speaking of a “Syrian adventure”, then suddenly fall into pessimism and deep thoughtfulness.
        Kamenev was completely confused, Strelkov did not argue that the quality of the work of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria is low, he considers the quantitative composition insufficient to successfully end the war.
        Quote: Kamenev
        Even if Turkey closes the straits, there remains an air bridge and Egypt is friendly to us in this situation.
        Blah blah blah. Strelkov made it clear that the Russian operation in Syria will last as long as the State Department wants. The entire operation of the Russian troops in Syria is carried out with the knowledge and approval of the State Department, and all this critical rhetoric of the State Department in the information space only confirms the fact of the fact that the State Department thinks one thing, it says, and even more so does a completely different thing. The USA can block the supply routes of the Russian group in Syria and in no other way can the Russian Federation establish supply, Strelkov claimed.
        Quote: Kamenev
        Even if Turkey closes the straits, there remains an air bridge and Egypt is friendly to us in this situation. In the event of a global confrontation with the United States, bases in Syria are turning into our advanced outpost, relying on all countries of the coalition. Then it will mean, in fact, the beginning of the Third World War,
        In every article, Kamenev scares the Third World War. So if the troops were brought into Ukraine, the war would certainly start, then when the straits were blocked, the Third World War would suddenly begin. How ???
        Quote: Kamenev
        Putinslill Online Party
        What does Kamenev mean by this concept? He is of the opinion that any criticism of GDP is criminal, not patriotic, anti-popular. In reality, everything is simple: there are patriots who consider the interests of the state and people as the highest value (Strelkov belongs to these); there are cheers who are considered the supreme value by the country's political leader (the obvious representative is Kamenev); there is a 5th convoy whose representatives act to the detriment of the Russian Federation. In Russia, it seems that nobody canceled freedom of speech, as well as the right to a sound and constructive assessment of the government’s activities RF. Kamenev’s attempt to discredit Strelkov is doomed to failure, even if he doesn’t hope.
        1. Horly
          Horly 12 November 2015 08: 23 New
          +7
          In the process, they began to absorb the money allocated to the company against Strelkov. Actually, they are already writing about this in the blogosphere - I won’t tell anyone who offers it to anyone, but what it is is a fact! As a fact, it is possible to associate Strelkova with the State Department only with a certain diagnosis. And the fact that individual statements are pulled out of the context of the conversation with Strelkov is an old propaganda technique. So Mr. (it’s possible to read abbreviations in different ways) is not worth believing - he has such a job
          1. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 09: 11 New
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            Horly
            It’s strange .. what does the association have when the torrents of Strelkov coincide with the nonsense that A-the Kiev Junta and its information support carry, B) Liberal piety within Russia, C) the State Department and its hounds?
            To say that they are pulling out his "individual sayings .." You should NOT consider people who you think they are, people read, compare and understand that Strelkov is not a figure that is worth anything other than the very assessment that Kamenev and others give him ...
            At least one phrase "" operation ... how much the State Department wants "- Strange, but in our country, does the State Department determine domestic and foreign policy?
            It must be understood that the State Department determined that Crimea should belong to Russia? And why then such a mournful howl that the same State Department that it is slanderous about Crimea?
            1. nemets
              nemets 12 November 2015 20: 57 New
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              the State Department affects the bank and some of the liberals in power, so there is some truth, although they can be stopped at any time. Personally, I think that this is the way hidden agents are calculated))
            2. sergo42
              sergo42 15 November 2015 20: 37 New
              0
              Strelkov was in business, and this is an outpouring of the next couch piz-la.
          2. The lead
            The lead 12 November 2015 11: 22 New
            +5
            Quote: Horly
            In the process, they began to absorb the money allocated to the company against Strelkov.
            If memory fails, while still in the Donbass, Strelkov said that he was preparing a dirty company to discredit him. Unfortunately, Strelkov was right here too, the degree of the company went off scale. Skomorokhov once wrote that we allegedly gave birth to Strelkov’s journalists, but we We’ll bury him. Skororokhov is worried, Strelkov made himself, he won fame for his deeds. Strelkov is already in the history of Russia and neither you nor anyone else will be able to extinct his name. They will forget about you, your dirty articles will go into oblivion, and Strelkov will remain in the heart of the Russian people, books, articles and documentaries will be written about him.
            1. vladkavkaz
              vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 17: 39 New
              -11
              Vedun (
              Did you write this?
              "Strelkov is already in the history of Russia and neither you and no one else will ever be able to wipe out his name. This will be forgotten about you, your dirty articles will go into oblivion, and Strelkov will remain in the heart of the Russian people, books, articles and documentaries will be made about him. . "- Perhaps ... as about Vlasov.
              The Ural Federal University, where he and his colleagues periodically shake the air, is famous for its liberalism and the United States, it’s not for nothing that the US ambassador will call in, then the consul, and the local gang-brotherhood of liberals has also arranged that gentry there ...

              To write texts that allegedly, on behalf of Strelkov, signed by him with a clearly pro-Western orientation and clearly in unison with the cries of the Kiev Junta ... local liberals, mixed up with patriotism ... you have to be able to, or voice what they write, well, for sure, Vlasov, neither give nor take.
              1. The lead
                The lead 12 November 2015 18: 45 New
                +5
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                Maybe ... how about Vlasov.
                Present the facts of Strelkov’s betrayal and his cooperation with the enemies of the Russian Federation. Otherwise, all this is a lie, slander and provocation. Maybe you are a Ukrainian fascist and throw us a misinformation to discredit your enemy in our eyes?
                1. vladkavkaz
                  vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 19: 28 New
                  -5
                  The lead
                  Data?
                  Do you understand dear people, they are facts, but the trouble is, you do not see them point blank.
                  But be calm, those who need it, see, hear and present irrefutable facts of malicious activity in their turn, but for now .. while your "leader" is balabolit, the more he says, the harder it is to answer.
                  I will cite one fact for you, the operation of the RF Armed Forces in SYRIA, there is the fact of the restoration of Russia's sovereignty and its RIGHT, to have the policy that it needs, and not the "riflemen" and foreign countries.
                  1. Morrrow
                    Morrrow 12 November 2015 20: 32 New
                    +3
                    And what about the Minsk agreements? This is the return of Donbass to Bandera Ukraine.
                    1. vladkavkaz
                      vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 20: 44 New
                      -4
                      Morrrow
                      No.
                      This is a reformatting of Ruins, to Ukraine.
                      Even if the crazy and alcoholized chocolaty gentlemen had not yet entered what framework they were placed in case of not just violation of these Minsk agreements, but also of attempts to unleash a full-scale war again.
                      And the United States is pushing them to this, do you not see this?
                      1. vladkavkaz
                        vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 21: 00 New
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                        vladkavkaz (
                        Amazing ..
                        Do people not understand or really believe that Moscow will allow it to exist on its western borders, openly hostile, with an extremely nationalist state ideology pushed by the West (more precisely the USA) in one way or another, to the war against Russia?

                        You make a minus, but don’t sign the insanity when you say that Moscow’s goal is to leave everything as it is and, moreover, push Donbass into that Ruin that agonizes, DEFOLT is already there, does this tell you something or not?
                        And this kind of information (http://zavtra.ru/content/view/ssha-nato-i-rossiya-gotovyatsya-k-vojne/), thinking
                        people are forced to understand what is happening, and the cries from the category of the opus Strelkova and K are just one of the manifestations of the information war against the Russian Federation.
                      2. The lead
                        The lead 12 November 2015 21: 23 New
                        +5
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        This is a reformatting of Ruins, to Ukraine.
                        Already, the patriots began to come up with excuses for the discharge of New Russia, although not long ago they screeched with foam at the mouth that only the all-scavengers admit the idea of ​​draining. As I wrote, the patriots are cynical in their lies. You can’t give up the ruin, but you can give it to Ukraine. Oh, donate it to Donbass, but Ukrainians tremble, God forbid, unleash a war or a massacre against civilians ... And then what? Take Donbass back? Or how firmly and firmly declare after the Odessa massacre protest?
                      3. vladkavkaz
                        vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 21: 39 New
                        -4
                        The lead
                        Frank nonsense, which does not have anything under it, except for hallucinations of the Strelkov Witnesses Sect ..
                      4. The lead
                        The lead 12 November 2015 21: 56 New
                        +4
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        except hallucinations of the Strelkov Witnesses Sect ..
                        The patriots hang this label on real patriots. Besides labeling, insulting, lying and slandering you are no longer capable of anything, it’s a pity. The conversation is over.
                      5. vladkavkaz
                        vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 22: 37 New
                        -3
                        The lead
                        Yes, indeed, with sectarians who have once lost, the conversation does not work.
                        Apparently you have been christened the Strelkov Witnesses Sect.
                        It is not accidental that the principles inherent in YOU, as in some of Jehovah's Witnesses, are exactly the same stubborn, uncontested belief in another "savior", together with lies addressed to opponents.
              2. nemets
                nemets 12 November 2015 21: 02 New
                0
                no, it’s an undermining of the ukrofashists
            2. The lead
              The lead 12 November 2015 21: 16 New
              +3
              Quote: vladkavkaz
              Data?

              Quote: vladkavkaz
              be calm, those who need it, see everything, hear and in their turn present, irrefutable facts
              So you have no facts, so your words are dirty slander.
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 21: 19 New
                -2
                The lead
                I have enough facts cited by my friends who fought in the Donbass.
                And equally the facts cited by another of my comrades, and now, being there, in a very interesting position.
                Sooner or later, but YOUR idol is a re-constructor, will fall with a great bang, you will therefore have a reason, a bite to bite off to yourself, for the crackling here and your accomplices induced.
        2. nemets
          nemets 12 November 2015 21: 00 New
          0
          it is specifically in Yekaterinburg that all this n *** education has been collected, this does not apply to other cities of the Ural Federal District.
      4. Kite
        Kite 12 November 2015 19: 15 New
        -2
        Quote: Lead
        Skororokhov is mistaken, Strelkov made himself, ......

        A year ago, I myself saw that the concentrated attention of journalists to Strelkov was directed at his promotion, i.e. to create an image. Remember at least a dozen names of those who were next to him. What, do you have to strain your memory? So who did what?
        1. The lead
          The lead 12 November 2015 19: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: Kite
          A year ago, I myself saw
          Judge people by business. Strelkov came to Donbass with his comrades to protect the Russian world, thereby immortalizing his name in the memory of the Russian people. And as for the different journalists there, well, we worked in front of a national hero, took pictures next to him, if there were any of them, and who will remember them now. That public attention was mainly focused on Strelkov is understandable, he was the leader of a popular uprising. If you are bitten by envy of Strelkov's glory, this is your personal problem.
          1. Kite
            Kite 12 November 2015 20: 12 New
            -2
            You do not understand what I said? The shooter came .... la, la, la, ..... Well, he came, and another hundred, all active fighters. Who are they? Where are they? What is being said about the present day? Do not journalists write about them and they themselves are not scribblers?
            1. The lead
              The lead 12 November 2015 21: 32 New
              +2
              Strelkov regularly made appeals that the whole society listened to. Would journalists write about him or not, it doesn’t make any difference, even if Strelkov didn’t make his appeals. Bogdan Khmelnitsky, who untwisted him, what does it matter? wrote about him and what, did this chronicler make an image to Khmelnitsky? Khmelnitsky owes his glory to this chronicler? Complete nonsense. Do not fool your head with your stupidity neither to yourself nor to others.
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 21: 37 New
                -3
                The lead
                Spend a million bucks on borosopisnikov and they are YOU from the curve-lame and hunchbacked, handsome smart and savior close up.
                And to compare B. Khmelnitsky and Girkin ... thank you, the scale of the Personality is completely different.
                In this case, if translated into a metric scale, then Khmelnitsky has a meter, and Girkin has a micron.
              2. Kite
                Kite 12 November 2015 21: 55 New
                0
                So show in your example how you can regularly independently appeal to the masses!
          2. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 20: 20 New
            -1
            The lead
            "Attention" to Strelkov, artificial.
            Who is he interested in?
            The myth of his supposedly PRINCIPAL participation in events is a myth.
            Finally open your eyes to your idol.
            Vlasovets, the most natural VLASOVETS.
            Those who came out from Slavyansk didn’t speak too well of him, especially about how the most motivated, by no means professing White ideals, were thrown to cover.
            So your idol, the re-enactor, began to play, first in war games, and now in politics, along the way in the first case, killing quite a few people, in the second case, poisoning the minds of people with their informal throws.
            Iran, goes to a close alliance with Russia, Syria, relies on Russia, and some sort of Strelkov, in unison with the US State Department, tells fairy tales, hysteria about the "Syrian adventure", along with him, the liberals will also hysteria, from those who are not so good.
            At first, the topic was exaggerated, oh, Afghanistan, oh, losses, WHERE are there losses? Now they started yelling that, Syrian Stalingrad (on the topic of besieged strong points of the SAR) did not work again, now they scream and cry, they’ve got bogged down, there’s no pace of advance, adventure. .. SO who is this YOUR Strelkov, if not a mercenary from Aliens?
            So God forbid, from envy to the dubious glory of a re-enactor, who plays a little in those games, but also tries on a dubious makitra, similar to the one worn by a well-known character who saved himself from the world and got 30 pieces of silver ...
            1. Morrrow
              Morrrow 12 November 2015 20: 34 New
              -1
              Vlasovites are communists who pedal their ideals. Was Strelkov a communist?
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 20: 41 New
                0
                Morrrow
                You can not be a communist, you can be a monarchist, liberal, Kuomintang, but anyone, but on occasion, immediately become a Vlasovite.
                It is not obvious to you that the Vlasovite, a synonym for Betrayer? As well as the Krasnoyarsk?
                1. vladkavkaz
                  vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 21: 02 New
                  -3
                  vladkavkaz (
                  Yeah, of course, judging by the minuses, VLASOVETS and TRAITOR are not synonyms for some of their fellow citizens ..
                  Who do you think you are, citizens?
                  As part of the occupation administration, burgomasters or what?
            2. nemets
              nemets 12 November 2015 21: 04 New
              +1
              "Deliver me from friends, and I myself will get rid of enemies" - Caesar
            3. The lead
              The lead 12 November 2015 21: 38 New
              +2
              Quote: vladkavkaz
              The myth of his supposedly PRINCIPAL participation in events is a myth.
              Finally open your eyes to your idol.
              This is a thief in all sees thieves, and so you project your flaws on others.
              Quote: vladkavkaz
              Vlasovets, the most natural VLASOVETS.
              Impudent and vile slander.
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 21: 42 New
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                The lead
                Are you trying to insult me?
                Or you yourself, from among those about whom you have such great knowledge?

                Slander, this is what Girkin does in relation to the Syrian operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and therefore there is a natural Vlasovets, blowing the pipes of the State Department one-on-one.
                1. The lead
                  The lead 12 November 2015 21: 47 New
                  0
                  Quote: vladkavkaz
                  Are you trying to insult me?
                  It is you who distribute insults to the left and to the right. I have shown quite reasonably that Strelkov’s position on Syria is consistently patriotic.
                2. vladkavkaz
                  vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 23: 01 New
                  -2
                  The lead
                  I’m with you, I don’t graze geese, therefore, if you please, and half bow, "patriot", so it will be more familiar to you.
        2. Ganssh
          Ganssh 12 November 2015 21: 49 New
          0
          Here I’m sitting ... I’m representing shooters of an epd company)) scored trunks, cartridges, all kinds of guns and tanks there (well, they were lying around like that (I don’t want to) on the Russian land)) ... he picked up the people and went to war with the vorog ... if honestly .. I can’t laugh ... and also major-rrrrr ... I want to remember the phrase .. whose money is ZIN ??? (and most importantly where). In general, you are not a Vedun, and so you went for a walk ...
          1. The lead
            The lead 12 November 2015 22: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: GansSH
            laughing out loud..
            Laughing for no reason sign of fooling around wink .
        3. Kite
          Kite 13 November 2015 15: 50 New
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          Quote: Lead
          If jealousy of Strelkov’s fame gnaws at you, this is your personal problem.

          - you have doubts that, suddenly, I was standing there, tongue didn’t get into the frame? I do not need fame, I have a different attitude towards it - the most free person is outside the attention of the public.
      5. nemets
        nemets 12 November 2015 21: 03 New
        -1
        Correctly I would better spin up Givi and Motorola
    2. Kite
      Kite 12 November 2015 20: 30 New
      -1
      Quote: Lead
      While still in the Donbass, Strelkov said that a dirty company was being prepared for him ......

      - there are at least two reasons: a) he knows his own sin, b) wants to forestall criticism, which is inevitable. (and I would have waited for attacks with prepared refutations) So what is valuable in such a "prediction"? The degree does not go off scale at all, does not rise, even falls, with all the stresses of the participants in this company.
      1. The lead
        The lead 12 November 2015 21: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Kite
        there are at least two reasons: a) he knows his own sin, b) wants to forestall criticism, which is inevitable.
        Really, and where did you get such stunning thoughts, really Strelkov himself told you?
        1. fyvaprold
          fyvaprold 12 November 2015 22: 21 New
          -2
          Quote: Lead
          Really, and where did you get such stunning thoughts, really Strelkov himself told you?

          And when he denied it to you. Sincerely.
          1. The lead
            The lead 12 November 2015 23: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: fyvaprold
            And when he denied it to you. Sincerely.
            Listen, someone ascribes certain thoughts to Strelkov, but on what basis? They are not there. That's what I’m talking about. You demand from me that I get from Strelkov the information that he really thought, that they say only then I have the right to a refutation of the fictional thoughts attributed to Strelkov. laughing Well, after all, complete nonsense is obtained. Agree. It is enough that Korshun is trying to pass off his fantasies as reality in order to discredit Strelkov.
            1. Kite
              Kite 12 November 2015 23: 23 New
              -2
              I do not need to discredit anyone, especially, attracting imagination. It is enough for me to notice what people declare about themselves. This also applies to your expressions. We have already written a lot.
        2. Kite
          Kite 12 November 2015 23: 15 New
          -2
          Quote: Lead
          Really, and where did you get such stunning thoughts,

          - do everyday people around you knock you down? What you dispute is similar to the statement 2x2 = 4
      2. fyvaprold
        fyvaprold 12 November 2015 22: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Kite
        - there are at least two reasons: a) he knows his own sin, b) wants to forestall criticism, which is inevitable.

        With tongue removed. Sincerely.
    3. Ganssh
      Ganssh 12 November 2015 21: 40 New
      0
      I don’t feel it in my heart. Probably to your regret ...
      1. The lead
        The lead 12 November 2015 23: 11 New
        0
        Quote: GansSH
        I don’t feel it in my heart.
        Maybe you don’t have a heart?
    4. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 12 November 2015 22: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Lead
      They will forget about you, your dirty articles will go into oblivion, and Strelkov will remain in the heart of the Russian people, books, articles and documentaries will be written about him.

      It is difficult to argue with a person with a similar "nickname", but I still risk it. But point by point:
      Quote: Lead
      In the process, they began to absorb the money allocated to the company against Strelkov. If memory does not fail, while still in the Donbass, Strelkov said that a dirty company was being prepared against him to discredit.

      Strelkov said a lot of things while in Donbass, including things that a military man would not talk about even under torture For example, that "Russia supplies little heavy weapons" (see the video interview on Russian Spring). This clearly did not go to the benefit of Russia, which Strelkov "defended from the Bandera hordes."
      Quote: Lead
      Strelkov will remain in the heart of the Russian people,

      Individual people - perhaps, but I would not vouch for the entire "Russian people". Excuse me, but Strelkov is not attracted to the "national hero".
      Quote: Lead
      Strelkov made himself; according to his deeds, he received fame.

      Glory implies glorious deeds, while Strelkov undoubtedly has goodBut glorious I don’t remember something. By the way, recall in which battles (significant) Strelkov personally participated, private, with weapons, not on the phone. Perhaps these are, but personally, I have not heard of such. If enlighten (no kidding), I will be very grateful. Sincerely.
      1. The lead
        The lead 12 November 2015 22: 54 New
        0
        Quote: fyvaprold
        For example, that "Russia supplies little heavy weapons"
        I’ll believe you, let’s say Strelkov said this. Let’s take a sober look: GDP gave guarantees to help the Donbass in case of unleashing of war (two videos were posted on the website yesterday where GDP talks about this). The war has begun and what do you want the words of GDP Did everyone regard it as a complete bluff? Strelkov’s words are a form of support for GDP that he keeps his word and assists Donbass, albeit not in the amount necessary. At the same time, Strelkov’s words can’t be regarded as evidence of assistance to the Russian Federation to Donbass , only as an indirect evidence that can be easily changed. The evidence should be material: satellite photographs for example.
        Quote: fyvaprold
        but for the entire "Russian people" I would not vouch. Excuse me, but Strelkov is not attracted to the "national hero".
        This is your personal opinion, it has the right to life. Most importantly, do not stoop to insults and lies. From my point of view, Strelkov’s whole life is a ministry of Russia, events in the Donbass, especially the defense of Slavyansk, for him, of course, has become a stellar time.
        Quote: fyvaprold
        there is no doubt good, but I don’t remember anything glorious. By the way, recall in which battles (significant) Strelkov personally participated, personally, with weapons, and not by phone
        Strelkov was a participant in the conflict in Transnistria (he was holding a machine gun in his hands), in Chechnya, in the Crimea and in the Donbass. In the Donbass, he didn’t throw grenades at tanks with a bunch, but that was not his responsibility. What are glorious things for you? For me and Many other Strelkov headed the national movement of the Russian Spring, which aimed at uniting the Russian world, the Russian people into a single state, then these ideas greatly stirred the Russian soul, did not leave anyone indifferent to what was happening. Is it not enough for Strelkov to become a national hero, or even the actions were glorious? What else then, in those conditions, could Strelkov do, he did the maximum possible. Understand correctly, I’m not idealizing Strelkov, if only because he is a monarchist, and I hold leftist convictions. However, Strelkov is without a doubt a patriot, who lives for the good of our country, so I will continue to protect him because of my modest capabilities.
  2. vezunchik
    vezunchik 12 November 2015 12: 56 New
    -5
    but it’s dangerous because it’s brain, so it’s alive
  3. Rusich is not from Kiev
    Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 16: 47 New
    -9
    Quote: Horly
    In the process, they began to absorb the money allocated to the company against Strelkov. Actually, in the blogosphere they are already writing about this with might and main - I will not tell here who offers whom, but what it is is a fact!

    So this is a common practice. A budget is allocated and they begin to water everyone undermining, starting from Navalny and ending with the useless Gozman. Seichas turned up Strelkov with his rhetoric. The main thing is to master the budget. and to those who give, too, no difference. They take this money from the budget))
    Shooters incidentally are the same fruit. he was given money so he travels around the country and gives such a view. So they are fighting against each other, mastering budgets. After all, no one cares that Strelkova God forbid 5% of the population of the Russian Federation.
    1. The lead
      The lead 12 November 2015 17: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      Seichas turned up Strelkov with his rhetoric.
      Do you also like Strelkov enemy ukrofashistam?
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      Shooters incidentally are the same fruit. he was given money

      Facts in the studio: who gave, when, for what. Otherwise, all this is vile slander.
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      Strelkova know God grant 5% of the population of the Russian Federation
      Really, people are so close-knit in the Kremlin, they don’t care what kind of person Strelkova decided to bend the leaders of Donbass out of sporting interest. Beat your own people so that strangers are afraid. Do not carry any bullshit.
      1. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 19: 02 New
        -1
        Quote: Lead
        Do you also like Strelkov enemy ukrofashistam?

        Well, for Ukrainians, an important witness and assistant who constantly pours water on their mill. If Ukram need to prove that the Russian Federation attacked Ukraine and started a warrior. then they primarily refer to Strelkov's words. This is just a fact.
        Shooters are not an enemy. but not heroes for me.
        Quote: Lead
        Facts in the studio: who gave, when, for what. Otherwise, all this is vile slander.

        Where do you think he takes money for trips all over the country, rents houses, rooms for lectures and briefings, places an interview in the media? Moreover, he himself needs money for life, since he naturally cannot work with such a schedule. Where does he get that kind of money? People collect on a wallet? Himself not funny. It's like Ukrainians who say that maidan was fed by grandmothers. and the money for the tents was given by Kievans.
        Quote: Lead
        Really, people are so close-knit in the Kremlin, they don’t care what kind of person Strelkova decided to bend the leaders of Donbass out of sporting interest. Beat your own people so that strangers are afraid. Do not carry any bullshit.

        I said that his maximum of 5% of ordinary citizens of Russia knows.
        Naturally, everyone in the Kremlin knows him. Of course, certain people (Surkov for example) cause hostility. or maybe they hate him, I don’t know. Of course they follow him and begin to drown at any opportunity. but they also follow Navalny for example.
        It’s just that they don’t allocate a budget for Strelkov personally. it’s total money. Bloggers are sawing the budget, and some in the Kremlin want to drown it because of personal and hostility, WHICH ALSO DO NOT DENY. Just need to understand. that most of the Kremlin Strelkov absolutely do not care and do not bother. So that Putin doesn’t care about Strelka.
        1. The lead
          The lead 12 November 2015 19: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
          .If ukram need to prove that the Russian Federation attacked ukria and started a warrior.
          Do not smack bullshit. The shooter is a volunteer and has nothing to do with the state power structures of the Russian Federation. Can you really be a Ukrainian fascist if you believe in their lies?
          Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
          Where do you think he takes the money?
          Well, certainly not the ukrofashists, calm down and do not envy.
          Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
          in the Kremlin they want to drown him because of personal and hostility
          All you know is about GDP and about Surkov, who breathes with what. laughing There are so many comedians and provocateurs, I don’t even know anyone else. Oh my God, what other personal hostility. What happened to the leaders of the militia: Mozgovoy, Bednov, Gubarev, and generally with New Russia? And what about the conditions of the Minsk agreements on transfer of control over the border of Donbass with Russian Federation to Ukraine? And about the federalization of the LPR and the DPR as part of Ukraine?
          1. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 20: 48 New
            -4
            Quote: Lead
            Do not smack bullshit. The shooter is a volunteer and has nothing to do with the state power structures of the Russian Federation. Can you really be a Ukrainian fascist if you believe in their lies?

            We need to communicate more with Ukrainians and watch their media.
            Who unleashed the warrior? Ukrainians say - Strelkov said. that he did it. That the pure truth "seemed to be the trigger"
            Quote: Lead
            Well, certainly not the ukrofashists, calm down and do not envy.

            Ha, attributed to me the words of which I did not speak. It makes no difference to me who gives him money. but they give him to say such things.
            Quote: Lead
            All you know is about GDP and about Surkov, who breathes with what. There are so many comedians and provocateurs, I don’t even know anyone else. Oh my God, what other personal hostility. What happened to the leaders of the militia: Mozgovoy, Bednov, Gubarev, and generally with New Russia? And what about the conditions of the Minsk agreements on transfer of control over the border of Donbass with Russian Federation to Ukraine? And about the federalization of the LPR and the DPR as part of Ukraine?

            That is, the whole answer was difficult to read, huh? wassat I seemed to suggest no more than that, since the interests of some gentlemen clashed in the Donbas and naturally they are not friends. What do not remember the eternal conflict of Kurginyan and Strelkov.
            You know this expression, the revolution devours its children. Here, the same is PRIORITY. The freebie and confusion ended after Debaltseve and everything was subject to the same system as to feed and water. Shoe people will not be revolutionaries, but a system, that is, Russia. If you can’t feed anyone, but still demand your rights, then you’ll go to a scrap. Tough but fair. \
            BY PERSONALITIES.
            --- Poor leader of the militia? From what kind of fret. In net vidosiki beautiful sawed. The man is a gangster and killed him about this.
            --- Gubarev after serving had no weight, he didn’t have his own battalion, and so he was sent to retire.
            --- The brain pity of course. But he is to blame. He had to choose either he is a soldier or a politician. The army should not have independent units, otherwise it will not be able to carry out tasks. Alexei understood this. but chose his own path. I condemn his murder. but life is like that.

            What happened to Novorossiye?
            Have you read anything else in the Minsk agreements besides the border? Read.
            I am for LDNR to become part of Ukraine in Minsk-2. I am a realist, therefore, for.
          2. nemets
            nemets 12 November 2015 21: 14 New
            +1
            The Minsk agreements are a trap for the Bandera. If the Powder began to comply with them, they would drop their own (the 3rd Maidan with all the consequences, i.e., the collapse of the country), which is not beneficial for protectorates from across the ocean. He did not comply - which eventually turned into an existing situation, which was calculated in advance.
            1. Morrrow
              Morrrow 12 November 2015 21: 18 New
              -1
              This is what we think.
  • Good me
    Good me 12 November 2015 08: 25 New
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    Quote: Lead
    Strelkov made it clear that the Russian operation in Syria will last exactly as long as the State Department wants.



    Almost "one to one", this situation is similar to the situation in Ukraine, where the State Department, being a completely alien "tail", "wags", albeit a sick one, but OUR "dog", in every possible way interfering with the resolution of the "Ukrainian question", which is essentially the question of the existence of an anti-Russian junta, and an immediate threat to us ...
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 17: 00 New
      -5
      Quote: Good Me

      Almost "one to one", this situation is similar to the situation in Ukraine, where the State Department, being a completely alien "tail", "wags", albeit a sick one, but OUR "dog", in every possible way interfering with the resolution of the "Ukrainian question", which is essentially the question of the existence of an anti-Russian junta, and an immediate threat to us ..

      Excuse me ho.hol? And then they, too, live in a parallel world and insist that their domestic and foreign policy does not concern the Russian Federation, and we want to do this.
      The USA is a superpower and naturally it decides a lot and we cannot but take into account their desires. DOG AND TAIL. THIS IS FOR PSEUDOPATRIOTS. And FOR NORMAL PEOPLE, THIS IS GEOPOLITICS where you need to play very subtly and take such steps that you would not lose in the long. The easiest way to conquer, and then what?
      1. The lead
        The lead 12 November 2015 17: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
        The easiest way to conquer, and then what?
        What planet are you from, sir? "Divide and conquer" is an ancient motto like this world.
        1. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 18: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Lead
          What planet are you from, sir? "Divide and conquer" is an ancient motto like this world.

          From Earth, and you? Who should divide the USA and Europe by invading the territory of Ukraine? Norm so.
          1. The lead
            The lead 12 November 2015 19: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
            Who should divide the USA and Europe by invading the territory of Ukraine?
            Can you read, by syllables at least? Where do you come from? It's about Ukraine, not about the USA or Europe. I explain on the fingers, look carefully: Yanukovych, relying on loyal Ukrainian military units, regains power over Ukraine. Returns the media to the bosom of the state , after 1-3 months of broadcasting the truth, a referendum is being held and Ukraine is part of the Russian Federation. However, this opportunity was missed. The second option went according to which, relying on the green men, where Strelkov and Co. were the spear point, the detonator of the popular uprising, a new republic of Novorossia appears on the right side of the Dnieper. But this option is in fact merged, along with its leaders.
            1. Rusich is not from Kiev
              Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 21: 18 New
              -2
              Quote: Lead
              I explain on the fingers, look carefully: Yanukovych, relying on loyal Ukrainian military units, regains power over Ukraine

              This is an epic. Tell me at least ONE part that is faithful to him after he surrendered and dumped everyone in Russia?
              Quote: Lead
              The second option went, according to which, relying on green men, where Strelkov and Co. were the spearhead, the detonator of a popular uprising, a new republic of Novorossia appeared on the right side of the Dnieper. But this option was also merged, along with its leaders.

              Yeah. Putin sent Strelok)) So Strelok came and why didn’t the people rise? How to raise it was necessary. Well, tell me.
              Quote: Lead
              It is about Ukraine, not about the USA or Europe

              Who is there in your opinion, Ukraine or something. Who is behind their backs and gives orders to attack or not. Little or something, so ask the Strelka guru.
        2. nemets
          nemets 12 November 2015 21: 16 New
          0
          this motto does not work with everyone
      2. Good me
        Good me 13 November 2015 00: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
        The USA is a superpower and naturally it decides a lot and we cannot but take into account their desires. DOG AND TAIL. THIS IS FOR PSEUDOPATRIOTS. And FOR NORMAL PEOPLE, THIS IS GEOPOLITICS where you need to play very subtly and take such steps that you would not lose in the long. The easiest way to conquer, and then what?


        Is this a recognition of the legality of the presence and influence of the US State Department on what is happening? belay

        How to understand ???
        1. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 13 November 2015 17: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Good Me
          Is this a recognition of the legality of the presence and influence of the US State Department on what is happening?

          How to understand ???

          Hm. You can admit or not, but it is just a fact. The United States that can do everything openly and carry different nonsense about democracy, but we can not.
          Here is an example. You got a CCM boxing neighbor at a site that constantly bites seeds and throws shells under your door. You ask him not to do this, but he tells you --- I’m not throwing eggshells in your apartment, but on the landing so go through the woods. What to do? Do not recognize what is happening and make him clean them? So he’ll just nautify you and that’s all. So you need to make sure that he himself is not comfortable, it is unprofitable to throw these shells at least at your door, and then to the platform. This is politics.
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 12 November 2015 08: 28 New
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    Quote: Lead
    Slander: Strelkov argued that troops had to be brought into Syria earlier; larger forces had to be introduced than were actually entered.

    But for some reason, he always and always pronounces and presents after the fact. That is, when the event has already occurred, and he says that it was necessary before.
    And once again I repeat: Strelkov-Girkin is a political adventurer seeking power. Ardent supporters of this type will understand this fact later, but they will have to understand it.
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 08: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: EvgNik

      But for some reason, he always and always pronounces and presents after the fact.

      You yourself, how many have spoken ahead, you are our perspicacious ?! laughing
    2. severniy
      severniy 12 November 2015 09: 03 New
      0
      Quote: EvgNik
      Quote: Lead
      Slander: Strelkov argued that troops had to be brought into Syria earlier; larger forces had to be introduced than were actually entered.

      But for some reason, he always and always pronounces and presents after the fact. That is, when the event has already occurred, and he says that it was necessary before.
      And once again I repeat: Strelkov-Girkin is a political adventurer seeking power. Ardent supporters of this type will understand this fact later, but they will have to understand it.

      I completely agree with you, I will add on my own that he is nothing at all as a military commander. destroyed the city with his "defense" and dumped ...
    3. The lead
      The lead 12 November 2015 10: 12 New
      -1
      Quote: EvgNik
      But for some reason, he always and always pronounces and presents after the fact.
      These are just your fantasies and nothing more. During the period of the heroic defense of Slavyansk, Strelkov spoke in a timely manner about the need for assistance.
      Quote: EvgNik
      Strelkov-Girkin is a political adventurer seeking power
      This is an insult and slander. A horse of cheers-patriots, according to which they can be easily identified: lies, slander and insults.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 12 November 2015 11: 04 New
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        The most disgusting thing is that Strelkov is being doused with mud by those who squeezed laudatory odes in his honor here a year ago and filled the forum with pseudo-patriotic motivators like "our idol".
        1. seos
          seos 12 November 2015 11: 25 New
          -3
          He is a good commander but a bad politician ... politics is not for him. In politics, you need to follow the words, but Strelkov does not know how.
          1. Good me
            Good me 12 November 2015 11: 43 New
            11
            Quote: seos
            He is a good commander but a bad politician ... politics is not for him. In politics, you need to follow the words, but Strelkov does not know how.


            Remind you of the words of one politician-statesman, VERY, VERY HIGH RANK, who “did not follow” the words regarding the protection of the civilian population of Donbass? And with which, FAIRLY, to this day, they reproach him ...

            For, FOR THE BAZAAR, ANSWER SHOULD ... Status obliges yes .

            So, Strelkov is forgiven for "incontinence", since we forgive it to OTHERS ...
            1. Rusich is not from Kiev
              Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 17: 10 New
              -1
              Quote: Good Me
              Remind you of the words of one politician-statesman, VERY, VERY HIGH RANK, who “did not follow” the words regarding the protection of the civilian population of Donbass? And with which, FAIRLY, to this day, they reproach him ..

              This politician kept his word so many times and followed his own words, that one mistake is forgivable to him. Although it needs to be reminded.
              Quote: Good Me
              So, Strelkov is forgiven for "incontinence", since we forgive it to OTHERS ...

              Strelkov says this on purpose and the more epotage, the better. Just the way he talked about Crimea needs to be kicked. This is a direct betrayal of ordinary Crimeans.
              Well, the fact that he takes pride on himself everywhere and the militia naturally begins the battle in general causes only disgust. It turns out that it was the militias who first started shooting at the Natsiks, and they did not kill peaceful men at the checkpoint near Slavyansk. But you sectarians certainly do not see this.
              1. Good me
                Good me 12 November 2015 19: 47 New
                +2
                Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                But you sectarians certainly do not see this.

                "Minus", for like this, for nothing about anything, the hanging label "sectarian" ...
                1. Dry_T-50
                  Dry_T-50 12 November 2015 21: 04 New
                  0
                  Quote: Good I
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  But you sectarians certainly do not see this.

                  "Minus", for like this, for nothing about anything, the hanging label "sectarian" ...

                  And how else can you call a person who has rested on his own line and does not even want to listen to others?
                2. Good me
                  Good me 12 November 2015 21: 25 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
                  And how else can you call a person who has rested on his own line and does not even want to listen to others?

                  Well, well ... Give me, and others, the PROOF of "obstinacy" in examples, FROM MY comments, where I "stubbornly bend my line", not listening to anyone ... And in general, "morally decaying" ...

                  By the way, I didn’t notice something among those with whom I had to enter into a discussion on certain topics ...
                  You, in general, "whose will you be"? And on what, after all, are your claims based?
                3. Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 21: 30 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Good Me
                  Give me, and others, in examples, FROM MY comments, where I "stubbornly bend my line", not listening to anyone.

                  Say that Strelkov is simply intemperate. But this is a lie that you do not want to admit.
                  If a person (Strelkov) does not refuse his words and constantly repeats them. that means he speaks it consciously.
                4. Good me
                  Good me 13 November 2015 00: 30 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Say that Strelkov is simply intemperate. But this is a lie that you do not want to admit.
                  If a person (Strelkov) does not refuse his words and constantly repeats them. that means he speaks it consciously.


                  In fact, the privilege of recognizing the truth and what a lie, for each person, please leave a purely personal matter ...
                  Personally, I will ask you to interpret what is false and what is not, only if you become authoritative for me as a person.

                  In addition, decide who the sectarian, Shooters or me?

                  If you think that I, a member of some sect, then take the trouble to provide clear facts of belonging to it ...

                  And since you do not have them (facts), did not have, and will not be, then - "minus", the mildest effect that can somehow turn you into sanity ...
                5. Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Rusich is not from Kiev 13 November 2015 17: 41 New
                  0
                  Quote: Good Me
                  If you think that I, a member of some sect, then take the trouble to provide clear facts of belonging to it ...

                  You mean you don’t know who they call sectarians on the Internet? Means to explain there is no sense.
                  The fact that there are a lot of sectarians from the CCC I judge by the minuses, any word against Strelka is punished by them here, and for questions that cast a shadow on your deity there is a dull silence and a minus laughing
                  I have already TWO THOUSAND points written off for criticism Strelkova which I justified. None of this topic is and never will be. Is that not a sect? fellow
                  Quote: Good Me
                  Personally, I will ask you to interpret what is false and what is not, only if you become authoritative for me as a person.

                  A great excuse to close your eyes to a lie. This is your right. For lies, there are no authorities, it either exists or does not exist.
      2. Morrrow
        Morrrow 12 November 2015 20: 36 New
        0
        Any Putinist is a sectarian.
        1. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 12 November 2015 21: 05 New
          -5
          Quote: Morrrow
          Any Putinist is a sectarian.

          Like the Stalinist
        2. The lead
          The lead 12 November 2015 21: 11 New
          0
          Be careful in expressions - they will ban your account. Delete the message, away from sin.
        3. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 21: 12 New
          -2
          Morrrow
          So ... consequently, for YOU, what is being done by the Supreme in Syria is what?
          The creation of the SCO, the CSTO, is there anything?
          Measures to strengthen the defense of the country and allies, is there anything?
          You are not a Putinist, answer, do not be shy.

          And Strelkov, itching in a yu-tuba along with Nesmiyan, is all false, who ... perhaps a "hero", though from which side of the front it is not entirely clear whose will you be?

          Determine your, so to speak, political identification, but how your idol, not yours, not ours, does not sow, we don’t dance, but itchs after the fact, everything disappeared ...
        4. Morrrow
          Morrrow 12 November 2015 21: 21 New
          +3
          The problem is not what is being done, but how! All through one place. Tell me - do we have a strategy? Who are our allies? What is the policy towards Russian fellow citizens of neighboring states? I'm not talking about economic policy ...
  • rc56
    rc56 12 November 2015 18: 09 New
    -1
    Quote: seos
    He is a good commander but a bad politician ... politics is not for him. In politics, you need to follow the words, but Strelkov does not know how.

    Perhaps I will support you ...
  • rc56
    rc56 12 November 2015 18: 09 New
    -2
    Quote: seos
    He is a good commander but a bad politician ... politics is not for him. In politics, you need to follow the words, but Strelkov does not know how.

    Perhaps I will support you ...
  • The lead
    The lead 12 November 2015 11: 47 New
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    Quote: guzik007
    The most disgusting thing is that Strelkov is being doused with mud by those who squeezed laudatory odes in his honor here a year ago and filled the forum with pseudo-patriotic motivators like "our idol".
    This is a typical manifestation of hurray-patriotism. I will explain how it happens: a hurray-patriot considers a political leader to be the highest value, therefore he will support and justify any leader's policy towards Strelkov. The Kremlin favored Strelkov, all hurray-patriots squealed "hurray for Strelkov." turn away from Strelkov, hurray-patriots, all those who shouted hurray, without blinking an eye or blushing with shame, as a result of their shamelessness, all began to squeal "at him." It is clear if the Kremlin's attitude towards Rogozin, then all the jingoistic patriots will again begin to extol Strelkov, come up with self-justifications for why they previously slandered him. It is important that the jingoist patriot does not strive for the truth, does not defend the interests of the people and the state, although he constantly uses patriotic rhetoric, for him the main thing is keep his nose to the wind of the leader's instructions. Therefore, the hurray-patriot, in an effort to justify his negative attitude towards Strelkov, uses lies, slander and insults, the hurray-patriot thinks that then it is justified and permissible, since the leader himself put Strelkov on his black list.
  • Rusich is not from Kiev
    Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 17: 45 New
    -1
    Quote: guzik007
    The most disgusting thing is that Strelkov is being doused with mud by those who squeezed laudatory odes in his honor here a year ago and filled the forum with pseudo-patriotic motivators like "our idol".

    There is such a thing - life. So there something like this - a reputation has been created for years. and you can lose at one moment.
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 12 November 2015 20: 37 New
      +3
      And Putin has not lost his reputation from the Minsk agreements, the murdered children of Donbass, whom he promised to save?
      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 12 November 2015 21: 08 New
        -2
        Quote: Morrrow
        And Putin has not lost his reputation from the Minsk agreements, the murdered children of Donbass, whom he promised to save?

        Whom did he promise to save? He snatched the Crimea from the claws of the junta, Europe has already come to terms with the exchange of Crimea for the Donbass. The program has been completed at least, nothing has been decided with Ukraine and the Donbass.
        1. Morrrow
          Morrrow 12 November 2015 21: 35 New
          +1
          And who said: "Let them just try to shoot" .... "If we see what kind of oppression and danger for Russian fellow citizens, then we will take all measures, including force"
      2. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 21: 21 New
        -1
        Quote: Morrrow
        And Putin has not lost his reputation from the Minsk agreements, the murdered children of Donbass, whom he promised to save?

        So Ukraine killed children. and Putin is guilty. What do you think TV Nazar want to justify? S.k.ota pseudo-patriotic.
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  • andj61
    andj61 12 November 2015 11: 06 New
    -1
    [/ quote] [quote = EvgNik] And I repeat: Strelkov-Girkin is a political adventurer seeking power. Ardent supporters of this type will understand this fact later, but they will have to understand it. [/ Quote]
    good The fact that everything is not clean with Strelkov-Girkin became clear even after his departure from Slavyansk and obvious actions aimed at the surrender of Donetsk.
    [quote] "Syrian adventure" [/ quote]
    [quote] Meaning of the word Adventure according to Ushakov's dictionary:
    Adventure, g. (French aventure). 1. Adventure, adventure. || The same with a touch of judgment; unseemly affair (dec.). Amorous adventures. He embarked on an adventure. 2. A case undertaken unreasonably, without a chance of success, is risky. Far Eastern adventure of 1904. Member of the adventure of Yudenich. [/ quote]
    And if we consider the word in the first sense, without taking into account the negative meaning? winked
    Our participation in the Syrian conflict includes geopolitics, training the military in a real combat situation, a reminder of ourselves, etc. And the people in this leadership support.
    The main thing is not to get caught up in the conflict for a long time.
    Strelkov just reminds himself, but the people do not understand him, and do not listen.
  • dauria
    dauria 12 November 2015 11: 22 New
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    And once again I repeat: Strelkov-Girkin is a political adventurer seeking power.


    Now let's remember in order

    On March 1, the Federation Council allowed Russian President Vladimir Putin to use troops in Ukraine to protect Russian citizens

    On April 12, 2014, a detachment of 63 volunteers stormed the city police department in Slavyansk.

    May 11-referendum On May 12, the DPR authorities declared sovereignty and expressed their desire to join Russia, as well as to unite with the Luhansk People's Republic in Novorossia.

    And then there was what was ... Let's backtrack. And they threw it in Russian. I’m not going to judge my government from my bump; I don’t know what the troop entry into Ukraine would really have poured into.

    But if you undertake to condemn Strelkov, take into account that a huge number of people suddenly realized that Russia was not behind them ...
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 12 November 2015 11: 32 New
      +6
      On March 1, the Federation Council allowed Russian President Vladimir Putin to use troops in Ukraine to protect Russian citizens


      And how he waved his finger on the TV, and almost with tears uttered "let them just try to shoot" lol

      But again the stupid Russians failed. They did not understand all the intricacies of Putin’s many-runner, and took his words seriously. These stupid Russians ...
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 12 November 2015 13: 51 New
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        Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
        But again the stupid Russians failed.

        Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
        These stupid Russians ...

        whose will you be ??? what
    2. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 17: 25 New
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      Quote: dauria
      And then there was what was ... Let's backtrack. And they threw it in Russian. I’m not going to judge my government from my bump, I don’t know what the troop entry into Ukraine would really have poured into

      So you already condemned. Abandoned. betrayed. If there will be no Russia, will there be Donbass and in general Russians?

      Well, Strelkov essentially set everyone up by going to Slavyansk as a commander. The man who served in the FSB understood perfectly well that having learned who these Strelkov were, Russia would be accused of aggression and sending "gangs", and any attempts to say that it was the locals who rebelled against Kiev would present the fact in the form of the Strelka.
      . Any normal specialist in place of the commander will take a local man who in the Donbass was above the roof. He not only did not cover up his operation, but also publicly said who he was and what his task was, to wait for the army of the Russian Federation. All the time during the defense of Slavyansk, Strelkov only did as he publicly called the army of the Russian Federation to go to Ukraine. Think about how it looks from the outside. Former FSB colonel captured the Ukrainian city of Slavyansk and calls for help from the Russian army. Where are the rebels? Isn't that direct aggression going to be? See how everything was done in Crimea. It’s as if ours weren’t there and the local Aksyonovs did everything, and our specialists acted under their cover.
      The more you compare the facts, the more obvious it becomes that those who sent Strelka wanted to. for Putin to introduce the military. By the way, Strelkov was sure of this, but when the Russian army was withdrawn he was so confused. that he began to say that they would all die. but with honor, etc.
  • Rusich is not from Kiev
    Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 17: 02 New
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    Quote: EvgNik
    And I repeat: Strelkov-Girkin is a political adventurer, seeking power. Ardent supporters of this type will understand this fact later, but they will have to understand it.

    They will never catch this because they are primates for which thinking is contraindicated. Such went to the PS in Ukraine.
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 12 November 2015 21: 09 New
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      Quote: Rusich not from Kiev
      Quote: EvgNik
      And I repeat: Strelkov-Girkin is a political adventurer, seeking power. Ardent supporters of this type will understand this fact later, but they will have to understand it.

      They will never catch this because they are primates for which thinking is contraindicated. Such went to the PS in Ukraine.

      Totally agree with you.
  • nemets
    nemets 12 November 2015 21: 26 New
    +1
    I can make a prediction (God forbid, come true) - if we in Syria do not have time to squeeze out militants in a year (at least in Turkey, at least in the SA), i.e. to the sponsors, then the probability of the start of the third world will be as real as possible, not later than 2018, and they can start in 2017, in May-June. Japan is not without reason pumped up with weapons, and the Turks beat the Kurds because they are on the way to the Caucasus. Do not believe it, look at the map. Plus the teachings in Geyrop in the last three years. Any doubt?
    1. Good me
      Good me 13 November 2015 08: 52 New
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      Quote: nemets
      .There are doubts?

      There are concerns, and not only in Syria.
  • BYV
    BYV 12 November 2015 09: 02 New
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    Quote: Lead
    The entire operation of the Russian troops in Syria is carried out with the knowledge and approval of the State Department

    You just made my morning! smile
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  • CONTROL
    CONTROL 12 November 2015 09: 21 New
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    Quote: Lead

    any criticism of GDP is criminal, not patriotic, anti-popular ... In Russia, nobody seems to have abolished freedom of speech, as well as the right to a sound and constructive assessment of the activities of the Russian government.

    ... Offer: Project. On the introduction of unanimity in Russia.
    Attack. To instruct the audience. It started. Youth; Sciences; immaturity! .. Nonsense! .. Beliefs. Disrespect for the opinion of elders. Anarchy. "Own" opinion! .. But how can people who have not been awarded the trust of their superiors have their own opinion ?! Where does it come from? What is it based on? ...
    1863 Prutkov Kozma Petrovich.
  • Absurdidat
    Absurdidat 12 November 2015 10: 15 New
    -16
    The shooters were not introduced, they were not shot and they were taken out in Slavyansk ... He is still cursing him there, after his "management" He crumbled so many people, with whom everything was already decided. He still plays with toys, filmmaker. But we love the Rampaires. Vaughn Motorola is a butcher, the biggest losses, the most stupid command, and the public's favorite ...
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 12 November 2015 20: 39 New
      +3
      Show me how to fight! Free Slavyansk.
      1. Absurdidat
        Absurdidat 13 November 2015 16: 33 New
        +1
        If you think that smarter than the people in the General Staff, then you. And people from the General Staff of Strelka wrote off. Think, I won’t go into details here, there is infa in the right places.
  • veksha50
    veksha50 12 November 2015 15: 36 New
    +6
    Quote: Lead
    Kamenev’s attempt to discredit Strelkov is doomed to failure, even if he does not hope.



    For a long time now I have been pondering such a passage as - first, the nationwide (including in VO) support for Strelkov, and then, first, his "withdrawal" from Novorossiya, and then, one might say, the persecution ...

    Firstly, just like that, with a "group of comrades", Strelkov simply could not rush to Donbass, to Slavyansk ... There had to be prerequisites, someone clearly directed him there, and at first he was firmly convinced that this "someone" will help him ...

    Then, apparently, the intentions of "someone" changed ... Crimea-2 did not work out (however, it was not Strelkov's fault, this is unambiguous), and rotten meat went ... Tuhlyatina - these are all sorts of Minsk-1, 2, n. ..

    Now he is a witness that this "someone" does not need ... He needs to be removed somehow ... To begin with, he is removed from the people's memory as a fighter for creation - I emphasize - people's republics ... That's when both he and his comrades-in-arms scared and shooed this "someone" and his entourage ...

    Even then, when I first heard the word "people's republic", I thought that the guys got excited, hurried ... It was necessary to bring the matter (seizure of power) to mind, and then raise the question of the status of the new republics ...
    1. The lead
      The lead 12 November 2015 18: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: veksha50
      I’ve been thinking about such a passage for a long time.
      It seems to me that there really was no Kremlin behind Strelkov. I will explain. In the interests of the Kremlin there was no continuation of the Crimean events. With the annexation of Crimea, the Kremlin has already decided for itself the regional problem of the impossibility of Ukraine's integration into Western economic and military institutions. GDP statements on helping Donbass in in the event of military aggression, ukrovsk was before the entry of Strelkov’s detachment to Donbass. That is, the GDP simply blurted out, so to speak, to put it bluntly, he had no serious intentions and believed that the Ukrainians would not really start shooting at the civilian population. On the other hand, Strelkov listened to GDP guarantees I took them on my own account and miscalculated in this. He entered the Donbass, raised a rebellion, but did not receive help. social justice. What kind of society, what kind of justice ??? And this whole heinous story with attempts, from persecutions, persecutions (I do not specifically blame anyone), you are all well aware of this.
  • Rusich is not from Kiev
    Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 16: 41 New
    -5
    Quote: Lead
    Slander: Strelkov argued that troops had to be brought into Syria earlier; larger forces had to be introduced than were actually entered.

    What is the libel. He says now what is written in the article. And of course, the Russian guys are meaty and they can be sent to death for the Arabs and get a second Afghan, and the shooter will sit and grind the statics. Cool. The shooter who offers to send Russian guys to die as a patriot is an alien warrior, and Putin who does not want to do this is a traitor.
    Quote: Lead
    Strelkov made it clear that the Russian operation in Syria will last exactly as long as the State Department wants

    To put it mildly, nonsense. The straits cannot be closed or Turkey will be very bad.
    Quote: Lead
    The United States can block the supply route of the Russian group in Syria and in no other way the Russian Federation can establish supply, Strelkov claimed.

    They will shut off the supply and they will have problems in Afghanistan and Iraq at the same time. You live on another planet it seems.
    Quote: Lead
    If the troops had been brought into Ukraine, the war would certainly have begun, then with the closure of the straits the Third World War would suddenly begin. How ??? How?

    Everywhere there are red lines, and if before the USA could do whatever it wants, then now no. Overlapping supply is an open warrior of Russia, and the stakes are so high. that nowhere to retreat. You think it’s just that the Russian Federation has so few planes and the opposition is not being cleaned up rigidly in boilers.
    Quote: Lead
    In reality, everything is simple: there are patriots who consider the interests of the state and the people as the highest value (Strelkov belongs to such)

    What is Strelkov’s patriotism? Therein . that he exposes his former fellow soldiers with his delirium? Remind shooters gave the order to hand over Horlivka and Donetsk at the time. but he’s still a patriot.
    1. The lead
      The lead 12 November 2015 18: 35 New
      +6
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      What is the slander
      The slander is that Kamenev claims that Strelkov allegedly considers the entry of troops into Syria provocative. That Strelkov’s opinion on Syria coincides with the opinion of the State Department. This is slander.
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      And of course, the Russian guys are meaty and they can be sent to death for the Arabs and get second Afghan,
      You look at Strelkov’s interview, then all these your thoughts will lose their meaning. Strelkov believes that the problem of Ukraine must be solved first. Syria’s question is the tenth question. You could just send the equipment there, even for temporary use and instructors. But the main thing is Ukraine .If troops are already being brought into Syria, then there is such a contingent that could ensure victory and that had to be done earlier, two years ago. This is Strelkov’s position.
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      To put it mildly, nonsense. The straits cannot be closed or Turkey will be very bad.
      And what will happen to Turkey? From the Kremlin they will threaten or something terrible will happen and the Russian Foreign Ministry will protest?
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      Overlap Supply
      It fits perfectly into the sanctions regime. What else war, wake up. Well, they will block the strait, the Russian Federation will declare war on the west? laughing Do not make me laugh.
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      What is Strelkov’s patriotism?
      He’s a veteran of Transnistria and Chechnya, that he was one of the organizers of the events in Crimea, that he arrived in Donbass to defend the unity of the Russian people with weapons in their hands. Strelkov both in words and in practice defends Russian national interests.
      1. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 20: 01 New
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        Quote: Lead
        That Strelkov’s opinion on Syria coincides with the opinion of the State Department. This is slander.

        Where is the slander here? Strelkov’s opinion coincides with the opinion of the United States. Where is the lie?
        Quote: Lead
        You look at Strelkov’s interview, then all these your thoughts will lose your meaning.

        I did not watch it and wrote from your words. that large forces must be introduced. In Ukraine, he requested the army of the Russian Federation. so the parallels are obvious.
        Quote: Lead
        .If troops are already being brought into Syria, then there is such a contingent that could ensure victory and that had to be done earlier, two years ago. This is Strelkov’s position.

        It is impossible to win quickly and one hundred percent without ground troops. So I'm right and Russian guys for meat. Okay, okay. And who is Strelkov? If he is a former officer, then why does he say such nonsense "about two years ago", not knowing what state our Aerospace Forces were in, what the political situation was. Although if he speaks like a man in the street, then everything is fine. Let's remember, Strelkov is a man in the street.
        Quote: Lead
        Strelkov believes that first of all it is necessary to solve the problem of Ukraine. The Syrian question is the tenth question.

        Shooters do not have the desired horizons primarily political (which he proved in the Donbass) to take his words seriously. Well, as a history buff, I’ll say that everything is interconnected in geopolitics (especially modern ones). Russia is not the United States and cannot solve problems alone.
        Quote: Lead
        And what will happen to Turkey? From the Kremlin they will threaten or something terrible will happen and the Russian Foreign Ministry will protest?

        Well, a lot of things can happen, turn off the gas, put up the Gaster, the tourist flow suddenly runs out due to the danger of terrorism, recognize the Kurds' right to self-determination and help create autonomy in Syria with weapons, etc. The people in Turkey are already murmuring, and the sanctions on our part are the overthrow of Erdogan one hundred percent. That Erdogan loves the USA so much. what will go on suicide? Do not make me laugh.
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  • Asadullah
    Asadullah 12 November 2015 19: 41 New
    +3
    The entire operation of the Russian troops in Syria is carried out with the knowledge and approval of the State Department, and all this critical rhetoric of the State Department in the information space only confirms the fact that the State Department thinks one thing, speaks, and even more so does something completely different. Syria and in no other way the Russian Federation will be able to establish supply.


    Taking off my hat. With what is happening in your head, it is impossible to live, but you heroically continue ....

    then when the straits are closed, the Third World War will suddenly begin. How ??? How?


    And you read the post-war treaties of the USSR and Turkey, on the right to use access to the Mediterranean Sea, and what methods the USSR has the right to apply. Unnecessary questions may disappear.

    He is of the opinion that any criticism of GDP is criminal, not patriotic, anti-people


    "Any" criticism, a priori criminal and anti-people, and patriotism can not even be remembered. Subject criticism is necessary and welcomed as a method of improving governance. Criticism of Girkin and others, repeats word for word, even the same intonations and accents that sound every day on Radio Liberty. Don't believe me? Listen. Therefore, criticism for the sake of criticism, there is one of the methods of restraining Russia, which is used by all anti-Russian forces of the West. All who use this method, even out of thoughtlessness, and according to it, even more, are either enemies or criminal fools.
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 12 November 2015 19: 45 New
      -1
      Asadullah
      An excellent, reasoned answer.
      I absolutely agree with you.
    2. The lead
      The lead 12 November 2015 20: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: Asadullah
      Taking off my hat. With what is happening in your head, it is impossible to live, but you heroically continue ....
      Where are your arguments? This is just a statement. For all that, some people have a head just to wear a hat.
      Quote: Asadullah
      what methods the USSR has the right to apply.
      And which ones, enlighten? laughingHere's a fact for you: Turkey is blocking the strait and what does Russia do in response to start the third world war? laughing Do not tell. There are so many clowns that you can make a heart attack from excessive laughter.
      Quote: Asadullah
      Any "criticism, a priori
      The concept "any" in this context means all possible forms of criticism, including reasonable, constructive criticism of real patriots, who consider the national interests of their people the highest value.
      Quote: Asadullah
      Girkin and others, repeating word for word
      This criticism Strelkova verbatim repeats the criticism of ukrofashistov addressed to him, so all the critics is a berry field with them.
  • Lieutenant colonel
    Lieutenant colonel 13 November 2015 03: 03 New
    -1
    About the shutdown of supply - you are very bent. If you look at the map, Russia still has access to the oceans and, accordingly, approaches to Syria. Longer, longer - but there are these ways.
    1. Lieutenant colonel
      Lieutenant colonel 14 November 2015 08: 02 New
      0
      Interestingly - have minus players ever looked at the map of the world's oceans? And we won't get to Syria through friendly Iran? Or via Gibraltar? Longer is true, but there are ways. Or it goes against their notion of "it's all gone" Barrana.
  • Good me
    Good me 12 November 2015 08: 33 New
    +4
    Quote: Mahmut
    Elections in Syria will show who will benefit from the fruits of victory.


    And whatever their outcome (election), what follows after them, in any case, will affect Syrian-Russian and Russian-American relations ...
  • nemets
    nemets 12 November 2015 20: 50 New
    -2
    Assad will definitely defeat, and after he really begins the bloody terror and does the right thing.
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 06: 33 New
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    Quote: Aleksander
    Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.

    sorry that all garbage thinks ....
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 08: 43 New
      +1
      Alas for you. Garbage to speak - your destiny.
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 12 November 2015 09: 30 New
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        Quote: Bison
        Alas for you. Garbage to speak - your destiny.

        Category 1 horseradiologist, or what? what Good lot ... winked
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    3. Aleksander
      Aleksander 12 November 2015 08: 57 New
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      Quote: Andrew Y.
      Quote: Aleksander
      Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.


      sorry that all garbage thinks ....


      And in my opinion, you carry it .....
  • AndreyS
    AndreyS 12 November 2015 07: 59 New
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    Quote: Aleksander
    This is Strelkov’s assessment and - he has the right to do this - they should not all blow into one pipe. Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.

    An interesting statement and quite controversial!
    How do you know that Strelkov says what he thinks ?!
    After all, if you look at the events of last year, the statements of Strelkov after the outbreak of hostilities in the Donbass, his current unity with the opposition, the conclusion suggests itself is a little unpleasant! In all events, we are looking for someone who is beneficial and ... the war in the Donbas is most beneficial not to Russia, but .... !!!!!!
    Now consider the role of Strelkov in these events! And ....
    So an interesting compote turns out, and in the light of recent statements, comrade Strelkov can be accused of serving in the office of another state in general (and even his phrase, that he pulled the trigger of the war, smoothly fits into the theory, and even about the information of "dill", that they were forbidden to smash a column of riflemen when they left Slavyansk!). Think and fold this mosaic, I personally do not like the picture that is taking shape !!!!!!!!!!
    1. hrych
      hrych 12 November 2015 08: 39 New
      +4
      Whatever one may say, Strelkov’s breakthrough from Slavyansk and Kramotorsk, or rather their surrender to the enemy, is a war crime, and this must be understood, the further southern offensive did not have enough strength to immediately take Marik because of the possibility of transferring the most combat-ready APU units for his defense. The price of this breakthrough is no more and no less - not only the occupied areas of Donbas, but also not liberated Kharkov, etc. However, it must be taken into account that the army of New Russia was not yet formed and the scattered detachments of Bes and Batman, the same Strelka, played a large role, and the fact that the army of New Russia is being formed and the offensive is being prepared in the South was a surprise to the Armed Forces of the same Strelka, the position prevailed putinsil and it is not worth blaming Strelka for betrayal. It is not sad, but for the formation of a real army, which nonetheless inflicted a number of defeats on the Armed Forces of Ukraine, at some point it was necessary to remove the field commanders, and if they don’t understand it, then the elimination was necessary. We say the same analogy was with Makhno. This is also the main reason for the fall of the White Army due to the lack of a single vertical command line that the Red Army was able to build, and Wrangel, Denikin, etc., essentially fell to the level of field commanders and were defeated individually. Yes, and did not finish Girkin academies. And now, when there is a war with fronts across the planet, comments by General Ivashov look preferable to similar ensigns, no offense to the latter, just everyone should do his own thing, so we will defeat the adversary ...
      1. Gorinich
        Gorinich 12 November 2015 09: 10 New
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        Derived and correctly done. Those who went out with him then fought in other directions, and so they would have shot everyone.
        1. hrych
          hrych 12 November 2015 10: 01 New
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          He had spilled earlier that he had been ordered from Donetsk to stand to the end ... According to you, in XNUMX, in order to preserve personnel, General Panfilov had to give the command to the soldiers to withdraw, violating the order of the headquarters? On the good, Girkin for non-observance of the order and grave consequences should have been shot, but as a symbol of the uprising he was only removed and sent to the train. Now he is sitting in Moscow on an "annoying bite" and it would be better to be silent, but to go to the deputies, and the torn apart inhabitants of Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, who gave him everything, are on his conscience ...
          1. KGB WATCH YOU
            KGB WATCH YOU 12 November 2015 11: 05 New
            +3
            What "order"? Strelkov was the DPR Minister of Defense. The fact that he did not give a damn about the "orders" of the Kremlin skins like Borodai does not mean that he violated something.
            1. hrych
              hrych 12 November 2015 11: 14 New
              -1
              The Minister of Defense is not the supreme commander and all the more so must obey the higher vertical command, i.e. the head of the Republic.
              1. KGB WATCH YOU
                KGB WATCH YOU 12 November 2015 11: 21 New
                +7
                It should not, because the DPR is not a state (it did not have all the signs for a moment), not all units in the DPR were subordinate to Strelkov (Bezler et al.). He commanded the Slavic - Kramatorsk group.

                Borodai's task was for Strelkov to die along with all the fighters there, and then dump Donetsk to Russia. After Strelkov broke the Kremlin’s mnogohovochka, he was "removed" (by blackmail of course) and since then the Kremlin has completely taken control of the republics into its own hands. And the circus that we are now seeing is the result of political strategists from Moscow. Since for 15 years in Russia, PR replaces real deeds.
          2. Good me
            Good me 12 November 2015 12: 11 New
            +9
            Quote: hrych
            He had previously blabbed that he had been ordered from Donetsk to stand up to the end ...


            And Donetsk, in turn, only "relayed" the order of "Commander-in-Chief Kurginyan", who, like a prized man, "galloped" to Donetsk after the successful exit of the riflemen from the operational environment, and began to "restore order."

            It is his happiness that he did not fall under the arm of Strelkov (including for faulty ATGMs), who at that time was ALREADY on Saur-Mogila, and was doing what the head of the Ministry of Defense should be doing, organizing defensive actions in that area, and isolating " Southern boiler ", although the very definition of" army ", then it was still quite, and very conditional ...
          3. Pissarro
            Pissarro 12 November 2015 13: 16 New
            +9
            Donetsk was preparing to surrender the junta, and here the Slavic battalions hardened in battles came in. It is ridiculous to read that someone in Donetsk gave such orders to Strelkov at the time, what is the rate, Kurginyan was sitting in Donetsk and weaving muddy schemes for the surrender of the city, and then hysterical, realizing that there will be no change
            1. Good me
              Good me 12 November 2015 13: 39 New
              +5
              Quote: Pissarro
              It is ridiculous to read that someone in Donetsk gave such orders to Strelkov at the time, what is the rate, Kurginyan was sitting in Donetsk and weaving muddy schemes for surrendering the city, and then he was hysterical, realizing that there would be no change

              Everything is so, with the amendment only to the fact that Kurginyan "was sitting" in Moscow, and rushed to Donetsk only when "the scheme fell down" ...
            2. Turkir
              Turkir 13 November 2015 09: 59 New
              0
              And also, I’ll add to your words.
              I don’t understand what kind of troops, what military profession does the commander Kurginyan have to do with?
          4. Buffalo
            Buffalo 12 November 2015 15: 44 New
            +5
            Your torn and offended people should have taken up arms for a long time, not slapped their lips on the warring.
            It is only believed, yes, by enemies, like you, that in a war it is imperative to stand to death.
            In fact, there is another task - to destroy the enemy. It seems that this is exactly what you do not like - well, you wanted Strelkov and his comrades to lay bones there ...
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 12 November 2015 09: 40 New
        +8
        It's time to forget about Strelkov, he went the wrong way, got lost and got stuck in a political quagmire.
        1. The lead
          The lead 12 November 2015 12: 49 New
          +7
          Quote: Vadim237
          It's time to forget about Strelkov
          What is the truth to be forgotten? Why then do not heed your wisdom and regularly publish articles discrediting Strelkov? He went down in history, this does not give rest to the cheers-patriots.
      3. Horly
        Horly 12 November 2015 10: 03 New
        +5
        And where was Colonel-General Ivashov, who, by the way, graduated from the Academy of the General Staff and commanded the Leningrad Military District (LenVO) when Strelkov defended Slavyansk? Probably led the defense or planned operations for Strelkov's exit? No, he talked about the events in Ukraine and the geopolitics of Russia in general on the RenTV channel in Prokopenko's programs. And this, as it were, is not at all the same as being in a besieged city with semi-partisan troops and trying to organize at least some kind of defense in the absence of military equipment, weapons and ammunition for it, while having an order of magnitude less personnel ... Many of the accusers Strelkov did not even serve in the army for a day (the same Kurginyan), but they argue just like military experts! Strelkov, in my opinion, had one huge flaw - the lack of an ideological component in his troops. What is "war for the Russian world" and during Strelkov's stay in Slavyansk was not entirely clear, and then our political strategists twisted it that now even Svidomo propagandists use this phrase to the full as an indicator of the mess that is happening in Donbass.
        1. hrych
          hrych 12 November 2015 10: 15 New
          +9
          In defense of Ivashov, one can say that he is first retired, secondly he is President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Historical Sciences (1998), professor at the Department of International Journalism at MGIMO, former head of the Main Directorate for International Military Cooperation of the Russian Ministry of Defense, member of the Russian Writers Union . Those. he is engaged in this business - speaks. Moreover, now the information war is much more effective than some types of weapons, and Ivashov is undoubtedly a strong figure in this war.
          1. Morrrow
            Morrrow 12 November 2015 20: 46 New
            +1
            Those. ordinary bolobol. Who can protect the interests of the Russian people?
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          3. Des10
            Des10 13 November 2015 13: 18 New
            0
            too much turbidity in the internet of his military and sexual life.
        2. The lead
          The lead 12 November 2015 14: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: Horly
          there was one huge flaw - the lack of an ideological component in his troops. What is the "war for the Russian world"
          How was this lack of an ideological component? After all, this is the "Russian Spring" and the united Russian world, remember what enthusiasm, emotional upliftness swept the entire Russian nation. Until these jingoistic patriots defiled everything, did not begin to discredit and eliminate the leaders of the "Russian Spring", until began to methodically and cold-bloodedly kill the hope for a society of social justice. They were scared there in the Kremlin they will feed and grow a genie that they can no longer control and who will present their vision of Russia and its future without oligarchs, corruption and theft, and this in no way fits with the image someone's fiefdom, which is prepared for Russia.
          1. combat66
            combat66 12 November 2015 19: 35 New
            -3
            Yes, you are just a revolutionary! Not enough bombs, or armored cars ?! lol
        3. Morrrow
          Morrrow 12 November 2015 20: 48 New
          +2
          The war for the Russian world is a war for the unification of the Russian people.
      4. Forest
        Forest 12 November 2015 10: 39 New
        +8
        And what is the war crime - to allow troops to survive and not stupid to die surrounded? Just destroy half of the militia at that time?
      5. Pissarro
        Pissarro 12 November 2015 13: 13 New
        +7
        Since when did getting out of a complete environment with battles become a war crime?
    2. Gorinich
      Gorinich 12 November 2015 09: 07 New
      +4
      In your opinion it turns out dill and Slavyansk were forbidden to storm ....;)
    3. Morrrow
      Morrrow 12 November 2015 20: 44 New
      +3
      Well this is complete nonsense. The column came out at night, how could its Ukrainians break up? Are you for a single Bandera Ukraine in which the Russian population is being wetted?
    4. Turkir
      Turkir 13 November 2015 00: 59 New
      +3
      let alone the information of the "dill" that they were forbidden to smash the column of the riflemen when they left Slavyansk

      1. Where did you get the information from the "dill" that they were forbidden to smash the column of riflemen?
      2. How or by whom is the truth of this information guaranteed?
      ---------
      Just two questions that arise when reading your comment from any sane reader.
      1. AndreyS
        AndreyS 13 November 2015 16: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Turkir
        1. Where did you get the information from the "dill" that they were forbidden to smash the column of riflemen?
        2. How or by whom is the truth of this information guaranteed?

        Oh dear! You can not even find dill information!
        "... In general, it is surprising that then we were not simply shot all. Either the APU was still not ready to fight, or some agreements were in force. Based on the July 5 release, which I happened to see with my own eyes, I have to incline to the idea of ​​having agreements. It is theoretically possible to believe that, taking advantage of the darkness, the columns could safely reach Kramatorsk and beyond, however, it is completely incomprehensible why the Armed Forces did not cover the central square of the city in the morning, when about a thousand soldiers from Slavyansk were located right on the asphalt ... . Between Strelkov and the Armed Forces command, some agreements were reached, which resulted in a corridor to Donetsk for militias and the "liberation" of a number of cities for the Ukrainian side. Saving his life and the lives of his people, Strelkov made a deal with the enemy and went to Donetsk, thereby allowing punishers to subsequently hit the very heart of the republic ..."(http://www.politnavigator.net/god-spustya-kak-strelkov-dogovorilsya-s-vsu-o-sda
        che-slavyanska.html)
        And here is the whole investigation into the agreement: "... I do not consider myself a military specialist, but this statement even purely logically smacks of idiocy. Exchange a relatively small town for a million people, so that with the small forces that the APU had then, then try to smoke the militants from there - this is such a “mutually beneficial” agreement that there are simply no words. I can’t believe it, that's all. As, in general, one does not believe in a suitcase of money brought to the General Staff. And in response, the General Staff gave the order on the night from so many to so many eyes to close the soldiers at the checkpoints for an hour and not touch their weapons in order to release the militants "without a single shot" ..."(http://vchaspik.ua/region/330911pobeg-girkina-iz-slavyanska-rekonstrukciya-soby
        tiy)
        Are you still confident that your sanity is off the charts ?! Is this information enough for you ?!
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 12 November 2015 08: 30 New
    -1
    Quote: Aleksander
    what he says exactly what he thinks

    And is it nothing that his thoughts are late?
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    2. The lead
      The lead 12 November 2015 17: 43 New
      +3
      Maybe only you they are late, lost, wander?
  • avt
    avt 12 November 2015 08: 53 New
    +7
    Quote: Aleksander
    This is Strelkov’s assessment, and he has the right to do so.

    Which, for the time being, he did not take up business, no one takes.
    Quote: Aleksander
    . Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.

    Hari Shooter! Hari Babai! laughing If Girkin / Strelkov really served in the special services, but a person can say the same thing ...... not very familiar with the specifics of the service, or fool , or sincerely believing that the film "The Shield and the Sword" by the talented Soviet director and artist Basov is documentary, not fictional.
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      1. avt
        avt 12 November 2015 09: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Aleksander
        ? But do not bite them?

        The teeth weren’t cut, even the dairy would bite us, and what should we bite - we will understand without snotty ecstasy at the sight of our deity.
        Quote: Aleksander
        To argue that Strelkov does not say what he thinks can only be frostbitten

        Quote: avt
        a person can say this ...... not very familiar with the specifics of the service, or

        Last option, well, this one fool , then everything else is to a specialized medical specialist - a psychiatrist, I am not such an education and can’t cure.
        Quote: Aleksander
        Just before his opinion coincided with the "party line" and he was glorified, today, no, and he is rotten.

        laughing Which confirms the above, especially against the background of the spells of Girkin / Strelka in Slavyansk - “Putin! Entering troops! "Directly from the Kremlin, the GDP itself dictated it to him laughing and then Surkov came and ruined everything.
        Quote: Aleksander
        And he says the same thing - then what now.

        I’m saying - to the psychiatrist urgently, even though the memory will correct.
        Quote: Aleksander
        he says the same thing - then what now.

        Remember, this is the same - no. Yes, and the campaign "party line" was forgotten at that time.
        1. Aleksander
          Aleksander 12 November 2015 11: 00 New
          +5
          Quote: avt
          and what do we bite - we'll figure it out without snotty with ecstasy at the sight of his deity.

          belay common rudenessfi ...
          Quote: avt
          , then everything else is to a specialized medical specialist - a psychiatrist, I am not such an education and can’t cure.


          I don’t even send you to the "coolest" psychiatrist, for, alas, no one and nothing will help you ...
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    2. Aleksander
      Aleksander 12 November 2015 09: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: avt
      Hari Shooter!


      Do you need "Hari avt and others like him? But do not bite them?
      Quote: avt
      If Girkin / Strelkov really served in the special services, but a person can say the same thing ...... not very familiar with the specifics of the service, or

      To argue that Strelkov is not saying what he thinks can only be dull fool
      Previously, his opinion coincided with the "party line" and he was praised, today it does not coincide and he is spread rot. And he says the same thing that then, that now ...
      1. avt
        avt 12 November 2015 10: 27 New
        -3

        You should definitely turn to a specialized specialist about memory lapses, well, you look and remember WHO and HOW praised the "300 riflemen" and in WHAT media, especially that
        Quote: Aleksander
        . And he says the same thing then that now ....

        , and in short - Putin! Bring in the troops! "The very ones that the Kievans have seen in the Donbass for a long time are regular.
        Quote: Aleksander
        To argue that Strelkov is not saying what he thinks can only be dull

        Campaign exuberant fool attack in the fight against "Surkov's propaganda" does not let go? Kurginyanchikov shake off tortured? Well, this is a practicing specialized specialist, not me.
        1. Aleksander
          Aleksander 12 November 2015 11: 15 New
          +5
          Quote: avt
          Camping trip riotous attack in the fight against "Surkov's propaganda" does not let go? shook off tortured? Well this is to a practicing specialist and not to me.


          why is it written, why? And the hunt is ...
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  • ASK505
    ASK505 12 November 2015 09: 27 New
    +4
    Quote: Aleksander
    he says exactly what he thinks.


    Strelkov-Girkin politician or military? The politician does not say what he thinks. Then who is he? Today, Strelkov is neither one nor the other, but again they offer to the forum an article about him and quotes on geopolitics and military art from Girkin. This page has already been read, turned and forgotten.
    1. avt
      avt 12 November 2015 09: 51 New
      11
      Quote: ASK505
      . This page has already been read, turned and forgotten.

      I think no . I suppose they will still try to revive him closer to the elections as a "national patriot" in place of Navalny. This is normal, political technology, we have the last "Russian march" on November 4 in Moscow in Lyublino, almost under the slogan "Glory to Ukraine" It was much smaller in comparison with the time that the "nationalists" in the same column with homosexuals went to Bolotnaya and Arbat, but as they say - a small bug, but smelly. The event was held. What was it hooked on and when? Well, maybe on wounded pride, maybe when before - it doesn't matter. It is important that he sings at a given time and in what choir. And on the campaign I joined the chorus performing the oratorio "Surkov's propaganda" and a separate aria - "Putinslil". Well, listeners who like the sound and do not want to enter the meaning of the spoken words and are simply scared, and even with reference to current events in time, there are enough, here one chorus "bravo" ,,, bis ", in the manner of the late 80s to another performer - EBN, and scream in ecstasy.
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 12 November 2015 10: 25 New
        -2
        Quote: avt
        I suppose they will try to reanimate him closer to the elections as a "national patriot" to replace Navalny

        I have long had such an opinion. And judging by the intolerance of some colleagues from the forum, he will have a lot of votes, although by and large, we only did not have enough Jews in the presidents. Quickly sing with the West.
        1. avt
          avt 12 November 2015 10: 35 New
          -4
          Quote: EvgNik
          I have long had such an opinion.

          Welcome to Surkovskaya Proaganda laughing and even "inveterate Kurginians." Actually, even now, you won't notice the work of Belkovsky, or who of his team, on his image of the "white warrior", well, you have to try very hard. request
  • seos
    seos 12 November 2015 11: 21 New
    +1
    More like Strelkov speaks without thinking ..
  • Rink
    Rink 12 November 2015 11: 33 New
    +6
    Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.

    The ability to THINK is a much more valuable quality than the ability to speak.
    My father taught me as a child: - "Don't always say what you think, but always think what you say!"

    Not every word has value, and it is often better to say nothing than to blurt out without thinking. If Girkin not just blurts out with his tongue, but says exactly what he thinks, then I am not on my way with this "thinker".

    PS For some time now I can no longer call Girkin Strelkov. And in general, this manner of "revolutionaries" to act under pseudonyms begins to irritate me. Why couldn't Trotsky remain Bronstein? Why did Ovsey Gershen Aronovich introduce himself as Zinoviev? Why was Karl Radek really Sobelson?
    Why is a person hiding behind a fictitious surname, but does not glorify the one that his father and mother left? And no need to talk about conspiracy, it's ridiculously simple. First, what is conspiracy if a person is public? Secondly, after all, not everyone uses pseudonyms?
  • iliya87
    iliya87 12 November 2015 13: 49 New
    +3
    I don’t know why Alersanderu was minted. But I agree with him. This is the point of view of one individual person. Far from geopolitics but close to military affairs. A person everywhere should have the right to his point of view. For me personally, Strelkov is an excellent fighter, but he is from the "Voina" party, when we decided to freeze the conflict in Donbass, he fiercely opposed, so he was kicked out of there. Arriving here naturally as a person, you can understand him, he was offended and since a completely different plan of events was initially formed in his head, he began to cry that the armistice would kill Donbass, it is not right to do it wrong. You can understand it humanly. Agree with him or not is everyone's business.
  • Rusich is not from Kiev
    Rusich is not from Kiev 12 November 2015 16: 25 New
    -2
    Quote: Aleksander
    Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.

    Why so sure? Are you an adherent of the Sagittarius Sect?
    Shooters generally even before the start of our intervention said that if we abandon Syria, then we will lose the Donbass. And now Seichas sang differently. So when did he think and speak the truth? wassat
  • ver_
    ver_ 12 November 2015 17: 36 New
    +2
    ... now there’s not a party in billiards .. but a chess game of planetary proportions is being played out only on this board are not chess pieces, but money, armies, countries, interests and the future of not only Russia ...
  • Asadullah
    Asadullah 12 November 2015 19: 28 New
    0
    Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.


    laughing You have courageously brought your opinion to the court, let me insert my nickname: “I am always sure now that Strelkov is saying exactly what Nesmyan thinks.”
  • nemets
    nemets 12 November 2015 20: 48 New
    -4
    shooters at one time left Slavyansk, although I was interested in the capabilities of the Armed Forces and the militias in the city. Believe me, by correctly positioning the fighters, you can contain and destroy a much stronger grouping. Stalingrad confirmed this at one time. Aviation of the Armed Forces already did not have it. I mean that he doesn't really think that much, he just followed the order to leave. to save as many fighters as possible. so this information war is being probed by "puppies" and "miners"
    1. Forest
      Forest 12 November 2015 21: 02 New
      +4
      Was Stalingrad surrounded? Did the Germans have an 10-fold advantage in humans and absolute in technology? Do not smack nonsense, the APU would just be at the heights surrounding the city and stupidly would be shot by artillery, without experiencing problems with ammunition, while the militia would not be able to answer. At that time, mechanized units would enter a completely empty hole from Gorlovka to the Lisichansk Triangle and in a couple of days would reach their troops at Snezhnoye. Aviation APU ceased to use only in September.
  • Altona
    Altona 12 November 2015 23: 52 New
    -1
    Quote: Aleksander
    This is Strelkov’s assessment and - he has the right to do this - they should not all blow into one pipe. Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.

    ------------------------
    He would have kept silent more, for a clever one ... But then, like the classic in the novel "Ostap suffered," and immediately lost all his enormous political capital and authority ... Like Khodorkovsky, he served 10 years, croaked and drowned again in a swamp of outcasts ...
  • Oleg56.ru
    Oleg56.ru 12 November 2015 05: 59 New
    +4
    God forbid the start of the third world. In this case, a nuclear winter awaits us. Syria needs to be helped, and not allowed to drive it into the Stone Age. We really need such an ally in the Middle East, and the newly created coalition is happy.
    1. hrych
      hrych 12 November 2015 10: 18 New
      -2
      We are Russian, we are happy for the winter, we will ride sledges and play snowballs, dive from the baths in a snowdrift, let the regulars of Malibu beaches be afraid of frost ...
  • populist
    populist 12 November 2015 06: 15 New
    +7

    Analysts with a name like Henry Kissinger speak of Russia's undoubted success in the Middle East

    Endorsement by Western politicians, political scientists, and other experts cannot serve as an argument. They praised destroyers such as Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 12 November 2015 08: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: populist
      Endorsement by Western politicians, political scientists, and other experts cannot serve as an argument.


      Why can't !? You just read it.

      "And for some reason he doesn't notice that he finds himself in a bad company ..." - said the author and did not notice how he ended up in a bad company ...
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 12 November 2015 10: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: DEMENTIY
        "And for some reason he doesn't notice that he is in a bad company ..." - said the author and did not notice how he ended up in a bad company ...
        The author is hurt denyuzhku, after the second article it is already obvious that the order. Soon he will find out that Strelkov juvenile children, on the basis of a video with the Dnieper paratrooper Valera Ananyev, in which he called him a mustachioed pedophile laughing
        1. Oprychnik
          Oprychnik 12 November 2015 13: 15 New
          -8
          “Syrian adventure” is a far-reaching, and a completely new strategic move leading to the fulfillment of the centuries-old dream of our ruling elite - control over the Bosphorus and Dardanelles. They have imposed the Turks on all sides, Greece has only left to tie closer. Forget what - Constantinople is our everything! And what about Strelkov? An old soldier who does not understand anything in high politics! Better succumb to the women!
          1. Oprychnik
            Oprychnik 12 November 2015 15: 04 New
            -7
            I’ll add for minus people without a sense of humor. Now this is really my point of view expressed in the song.
            "Migratory birds are flying in the blue autumn distance.
            They fly to hot countries
            And I stay with you.
            And I stay with you, a native country forever.
            I don’t need the Turkish coast,
            And I don't need Africa "
            And Syria too.
  • dFG
    dFG 12 November 2015 06: 17 New
    11
    Recently, it seems that Girkin is the conductor of US policy, because if you had entered the Russian Federation troops into Ukraine, there would have been much less forces for the ATS, and given the NATO counteraction, there would have been absolutely no Syrians and left alone with igil and pen dos . Yes, and Girkin’s military talents raise doubts - all defended objects were surrendered. Maybe pen dos caught Girkin on what hook and hold tight ??
  • venaya
    venaya 12 November 2015 06: 17 New
    +9
    "Syrian adventure"

    Really a gamble, but from whose side? In other today's articles, there is already talk about the adventure of the Turkish leader, who decided to create an analogue of the "Magnificent Port" of the devil knows what years. Dreams, dreams, sometimes they can lead to tragedy. Only here is Putin's position, so far, does not cause negative emotions and seems to be balanced, and as for Strelkov, where does he get information from, from there is all this wind.
    By the way: ISIS is already insolently supported by the Turkish government.
  • populist
    populist 12 November 2015 06: 17 New
    +1
    Only sophisticated conspiracy theories can explain all these incidents and continue to talk about the "Syrian adventure", or belief in the infallibility of its author.

    Sorry, who is the author of this?
  • PQ-18
    PQ-18 12 November 2015 06: 19 New
    -19
    If the coalition brings troops into Syria, then ... Assad will remain, then "what will be left"
    For 1.5 months of strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces, the Syrian army carried out "not so many offensive ground operations." The militants regrouped to attack and recapture territories ..
    1. c3r
      c3r 12 November 2015 06: 50 New
      13
      Many are not many, but they approached Palmyra 20 km. and the airbase was recaptured, now there are one more runways. In nete you can read how many and what was repelled.
      1. Good me
        Good me 12 November 2015 08: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: c3r
        Many are not many, but they approached Palmyra at 20 km. and the airbase was recaptured, now there are one more runways.


        Stripes, then one more ... But just, will this somehow affect the situation? After all, the quantitative and qualitative state of the Syrian Air Force, which also has the available runways, with a "head" is widely known ...

        The "diminutiveness" of Syria negates the dignity of this airfield as a kind of forward base for the CAA aircraft, which is just a stone's throw away from the existing airfields, as they say.

        Of course, there are still helicopters, but the Syrians, alas, also do not have so many ...

        It remains to be expected that SOMETHING, by agreement with the Syrian side, will decide to expand its quantitative and qualitative composition.
        1. c3r
          c3r 12 November 2015 12: 26 New
          +2
          What you hate is wrong and that is not so. The Syrians of the Air Force are deplorable, but they are in the amount of 90 units and operate in conjunction with the Russian Air Force, and ISIS is not that Air Force, air defense is not effective at all. And this is good!
        2. ver_
          ver_ 12 November 2015 17: 43 New
          -2
          ... and it doesn’t occur to anyone that there is a likelihood that southern people learn to fight in the colder regions on a more advanced technique ...
          1. w3554152
            w3554152 13 November 2015 23: 03 New
            0
            Quote: ver_
            ..and it doesn’t occur to anyone that there is a likelihood that southern people learn to fight in the colder regions on a more advanced technique ...


            Take and understand what is written here. Start with dots and end of a set of words with dots. What language, such and thoughts.
    2. yan 2015
      yan 2015 12 November 2015 09: 52 New
      +2
      For 1.5 months of strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces, the Syrian army carried out "not so many offensive ground operations." The militants regrouped to attack and recapture territories ..

      please kindly reference this information. otherwise, in my opinion, it’s not at all like that.
    3. avt
      avt 12 November 2015 11: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: PQ-18
      If the coalition brings troops into Syria, then ... Assad will remain, then "what will be left"

      wassat Coalition? Whom with whom ??? Can you list 61 countries of the "coalition" that bombed ISIS before Russia? In reality, only Turkey can conduct a combined-arms operation on the ground there.
      Quote: PQ-18
      For 1.5 months of strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces, the Syrian army carried out "not so many offensive ground operations."

      And in the mountains it was real, not virtual, that you had to walk with your feet? Well, cut from bottom to top and from top to bottom with kilometers, and not on the map with a ruler, calculated on a scale?
      Quote: Good Me
      It remains to be expected that SOMETHING, by agreement with the Syrian side, will decide to expand its quantitative and qualitative composition.

      Come on, you girkin's nonsense to suffer about the introduction of troops, or volunteers! There you really need to arm and train the army differently than the Iranians did for two years! Watch the video - there are no helmets on the fighters, no armor, either, I have NEVER seen anybody's slave workers, not to mention the AGS. When was the last time you saw an Assad fighter with "Fly" at least? There is no dynamic protection on the tanks - everything came out, but it was at the beginning. You need to firmly take the apparatus of military advisers from top to bottom and six months will not pass - there will be a result tackle the Kurds, the PKK, but this is already a political and rather complicated settlement, and here Russia not only with the Turks, but with the Iranians can be hacked to death.
      1. PQ-18
        PQ-18 12 November 2015 12: 32 New
        +1
        Coalition - NATO countries + a couple of battalions of Jordanians and Saudis ...
        Who do you think now controls 75% of the Syrian territory, ISIS?
        and WHO is “conducting” the ISIS?
        ;-)
        1. avt
          avt 12 November 2015 15: 31 New
          0
          Quote: PQ-18
          Coalition - NATO countries + a couple of battalions of Jordanians and Saudis ...

          ,, Announce the entire list please " wassat This is all an artistic whistle, and in fact, just like the representatives of the US, when they are asked the same question about the "coalition".
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 12 November 2015 06: 25 New
    11
    Our "partners" did not expect decisive steps from Russia, so they were a little at a loss and now they do not know what to do and what to say!
  • Mera joota
    Mera joota 12 November 2015 06: 28 New
    -24
    The author adheres to the "party line" and strictly follows it. But Strelkov is absolutely right. Russia got involved not in the war between Assad and IS, but in the war between Shiites and Sunnis, i.e. into interfaith carnage. Why do Americans portray a drawn horror of Russian military power? Yes, in the Pentagon, they probably danced a jig when they learned that Russia had started a war on the side of Assad ... champagne flowed like a river. In 2003. one American president has dragged his country into an endless war, leaving a dear one. But then there was a country on which you can throw this whole cauldron boiling with blood, and themselves step into the background encouraging the "successor" with exclamations like "Yes, just look how they can!", "We underestimated you!", "What successes!", "Come on, come on, you're doing better!"

    If someone thinks that everything will be limited to only air strikes, he is cruelly mistaken. Gradually, we will be drawn to the very throat and new "internationalist warriors" will sing with a guitar about the Syrian sky and lost comrades ... well, if not at the crossings and train stations ...
    1. c3r
      c3r 12 November 2015 07: 08 New
      +5
      But there was a country where you can throw off all this boiling blood pot, and by yourself fade into the background

      Americans in the first roles in Syria have never been. So imitation of violent activity and providing all possible assistance .. ISIS through the "moderates" and Turkey.

      If someone believes that everything will be limited only by air strikes, he is cruelly mistaken.

      While the Syrians are not doing a bad job with the rest of the stakeholders on the ground, read the "news from the battlefield." Although something tells me that good news does not fit into your concept, and therefore why pay attention to them! In Syria, aviation will cope, but in Ukraine, if we introduce troops, then "Gradually, we will be drawn up to the throat and new" internationalist soldiers "will sing to a guitar about the Syrian sky and lost comrades ... well, if not at the crossings and train stations ..." and in the Pentagon there will be not only a jig, but also a hopak dancing for joy! hi
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 12 November 2015 08: 11 New
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        Quote: c3r
        Americans have never been in the lead in Syria.
        The Americans, if possible, like their "older brothers", the British, always tried to substitute others for the "first roles" in the war. Even in the creation of ISIS, the States seemed to be on the sidelines, and such countries as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar were more prominent as sponsors and patrons than others. Nevertheless, the United States began to bomb ISIS, having done it in Iraq, and starting in Iraq, they had to recognize them as an enemy in the situation in Syria. As for us, our military supplies to Syria were stopped at one time, everything, again, at the insistence of our overseas "partners", the contracts already signed were frozen. Syria is on the verge of falling, now they have found such a solution as our bombing, which, according to reports, often resembles an advertising show. These contrasts are somehow straining, both on the occasion of Syria and in Ukraine, where there were fireworks and concerts in Crimea after the recognized referendum, and "salutes" from phosphorus bombs and rejoicing over those killed in Donbas, during an unrecognized referendum. Where is this line at all, when, what and how should be done on time ... Was it possible to save Syria now from falling without our bombing, is another question, but if Assad's troops cannot cope, there will hardly be a good choice, we got involved in a conflict , will have to get involved in a ground operation or leave. Probably, this is what Mera Joota expressed as a reasonable concern, not everything is simple there, in this delicate matter of the East, in their bloody mess of showdowns. In general, ISIS is a consequence, not a cause, and if you fight the cause, you would have to bomb not even the Saudis, but the main evil on the planet in the person of the United States, our "partners" in the capitalist camp and the masters of this system.
        1. Horly
          Horly 12 November 2015 09: 00 New
          +5
          That's right, you and the comrades wrote above (judging by the minuses, their opinion, like Strelkov's, differs from the "direction of the party"). One clarification to the above, as well as a question to the minus-players - what is the specific purpose of our troops staying in Syria (the war on terrorism, etc. is propaganda, not a goal) and what specific result they should show, where is the line after which we can say " take your overcoat - let's go home "- not a single sofa analyst, like officials, answered these questions. And a war without specific goals (or with goals set in the style of propaganda like "to the last terrorist") is a gamble.
          1. CONTROL
            CONTROL 12 November 2015 09: 43 New
            +3
            Quote: Horly
            And a war without specific goals (or with goals set in the style of propaganda like "to the last terrorist") - this is an adventure.

            Well what is it, after all! You listen to what your (legal, by the way) president tells you: ISIS will not stop in Syria, Iraq, Iran ... it WILL BE in OUR Caucasus, and it already exists in Central Asia ... and it already exists in Russia!
            You can not love the head of state (the girl is not red ...), but not see the obvious - ??? ...
          2. c3r
            c3r 12 November 2015 10: 26 New
            +3
            And you did not think about blocking the channels of contraband oil and fuel through the territory of Turkey. Think! hi
      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 12 November 2015 09: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: c3r
        Americans have never been in the lead in Syria.

        You look narrowly at these events. This war has long crossed the borders of many states and Syria is just one of the theaters of war. It all began in Iraq and the Americans, driven by their complexes (or something else, the sea of ​​options) set fire to the region and began to burn in it themselves because "they are to blame for everything." This is not my statement, but the opinion of many Muslims in the Middle East.
        The USA needed a new enemy whom they would hate instead of the USA and it was found.
        Quote: c3r
        read "news from the battlefield".

        I am reading. The fact that "successes" do not correspond to the previously set tasks is obvious to everyone.
        Quote: c3r
        In Syria, aviation can handle

        Naive statement. Numerous groups of Islamists is not a state that you can bomb out of the war like Yugoslavia.
        Quote: c3r
        but in Ukraine

        This is not discussed at all, "it's too late to drink Borjomi"
        1. c3r
          c3r 12 November 2015 12: 39 New
          0
          The United States does not need a substitute for the enemy, the United States needs an enemy as such, which would be a lot to write off the military budget. And I assure you that it is violet to them whether they love or hate them, the main thing is that there should be order and prosperity at home.
          The objectives were to strike at ISIS facilities related to command, supply, training of the army and fortified areas. These tasks are currently being successfully completed and the more successful they are, the more successful is the ground operation of the Syrian army and their allies. The Syrian army cannot move at lightning speed. Before that, they alone held back the Islamists and the resources are not unlimited, Syria is not Russia. Let people come to their senses.
          Numerous Islamist groups have turned into a regular army under the command of officers of the former Iraqi army, which has control centers and warehouses and supply and training bases and heavy equipment, etc., etc.
          But Borjomi from Ukraine is too early to drink yet!
    2. spolo
      spolo 12 November 2015 09: 00 New
      +1
      And if we do not get involved, then "dreams will come true" not with Gazprom, but personally with the Qatari sheikhs who dream of throwing a pipe there, with all the consequences for the Russian economy.
    3. Good me
      Good me 12 November 2015 09: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: Mera Joota
      The author adheres to the "party line" and strictly follows it. But Strelkov is absolutely right. Russia got involved not in the war between Assad and IS, but in the war between Shiites and Sunnis, i.e. into interfaith carnage.


      Here you, in reality, distort, and ascribe to Strelkov, clearly YOUR thoughts, about the "confessional nature of the war."
    4. CONTROL
      CONTROL 12 November 2015 09: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Mera Joota
      But there was a country where you can throw off all this boiling blood pot, and by yourself fade into the background

      ... or you, dear Mera joota do not agree that Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya, ... are located "in one of the key regions of the world"?
      Do you also know such regions? Indochina ... South Africa ... South America (in the part adjacent to the isthmus) ... well, and others ... What is Russia (and formerly the USSR) climbing there? what does she need there?! ... But what is much more incomprehensible - what is the USA climbing into these regions ?? !! what do they need there? ...
      Total!...
    5. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 12 November 2015 10: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Mera Joota
      Why do Americans depict a drawn horror of Russian military power?

      By the way, yes, in some places ostentatious confessions of our superiority are visible. hi
    6. avt
      avt 12 November 2015 11: 38 New
      -2
      Quote: Mera Joota
      The author adheres to the "party line" and strictly follows it. But Strelkov is absolutely right. Russia got involved not in the war between Assad and IS, but in the war between Shiites and Sunnis, i.e. into interfaith carnage.

      laughing ,, Chef! Everything is lost! The client is leaving! The plaster is being removed! " laughing Yes, even on our TVs the Americans Bom, Zlobin, and others like them, the Redheads, ceased to blast the snowstorm about the Shiite Sunni war! Well, the chip didn’t, although I think they will try to play it again.
      Quote: Mera Joota
      But there was a country where you can throw all this boiling blood pot

      Well, go and throw your head at the manure from such misles, well, if you have no desire to ponder over specific facts - just hysteria with mogem, then its very place is in the dung heap. And then such "wonderful discoveries"
      Quote: Mera Joota
      If someone believes that everything will be limited only by air strikes, he is cruelly mistaken.

      Just got it. Yes, finally
      Quote: Mera Joota
      new "warriors internationalists" will sing to the accompaniment of a guitar about the Syrian sky and lost comrades ... well, if not at the crossings and train stations ...

      It's really good that they put it in quotes. Have you ever seen the "warriors" in the passages and the metro, well, real ones? And how much does it cost to get up in a place, or walk around the carriage by the course? On this topic, I liked one chant on a cardboard written in the 90s at the station "Shabolovskaya" there was such a not cyanotic yet, but a beginner to the campaign, and the inscription on the cardboard read - "Help raise money for a caesarean section, don't let me die."
    7. Pissarro
      Pissarro 12 November 2015 13: 26 New
      0
      Russia entered not the Shiite war with the Sunnis, but the war of secular regimes against Islamist barbarians. And Russia’s largest Sunni country in the Arab world, Egypt, which is also fighting the Islamists, is Russia’s ally. And only our sworn partners try to present this like the Sunni-Shiite showdown. Kurds are also Sunnis, but they are fighting against the Islamists on our side
  • Sirocco
    Sirocco 12 November 2015 06: 31 New
    -1
    NK finally read what he was thinking about, and more than once posted.

    The Syrian war evokes the civil war in Spain in the 30s of the last century, the Spanish Republicans with the pro-fascist dictator Franco.

    I thought that only it seemed to me such coincidences with the end of the 30s of the last century. But no.
    I don’t want to speak about Strelkov’s account, for me he became a girl of easy virtue, probably the role of her is such in this war.
    Starikov told about the rainbow approval from the Western "calllegs".
    Where do they want to draw Russia and how.
    About Putin leaked, he also said well.
    1. wk
      wk 12 November 2015 06: 57 New
      +9
      Quote: Sirocco
      At the expense of Strelkov, I don’t want to say, for me he became a girl of easy virtue, probably his role is in this war. Starikov spoke well about the rainbow approval from Western "calllegs".


      who is the Old Man, and who is the Strelkov? .... The Old Man weather vane! skillfully manipulating the ideas of really good theorists, such as Fursov or Katasonov ...., .... in the event of serious events in Russia, all his fake "anti-Maidan" will disappear, bury itself in the ground, like the "black hundred" buried itself when it smelled in Russia fried (have you heard a lot about the Black Hundreds in the white movement? ... this and that!)
      Strelkov risked his life for his ideas ... and is still risking (no need to explain why) .... Starikov receives nyashki from the power front for his weathervane .... but tell me, dear, how many times Starikov was in Donbas or Syria? .. ...
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 12 November 2015 07: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: wk

        who is the Starikov, and who is the Strelkov? .... The old man is a weather vane!

        And who is Strelkov? His position is clearly not about Russian, I wrote my opinion to you below, Everything is bad everywhere, and everything was lost, even in Syria, even in the Donbass, Russia in Syria on it is bad, but in the Donbass it would be very good. So what? and do you agree with him?
        Quote: wk
        .and do not tell respected how many times Starikov was in Donbas or Syria? .....

        Let me tell you why not.
        God of God, Caesar Caesarean.
        With the same success, you can reproach each member of the VO forum for not taking part in the conflict in the Donbass or Syria.
        And we do not know anything, and do not make sense.
        1. wk
          wk 12 November 2015 07: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: Sirocco
          God of God, Caesar Caesarean.

          and the locksmith is a locksmith .... The old men are not God and not the Tsar ..... and most importantly his people risk their lives .... Caesar is written with a capital letter, but about Starikov I am not interested ... he ... as an agitator of the times late Brezhnev ... more interesting is the qualification of a mechanic doing repairs in my house.
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 12 November 2015 07: 29 New
            -1
            Quote: wk
            The old people are not God and not the King .....
            This is an allegory))))
            Since you are angry, then you are wrong)))))
            Quote: wk
            . Caesar is written with a capital

            We are not on the dictation exam.
            I noticed a tendency when a person has no reason to argue, he goes over to individuals, or, as in your case, is looking for grammatical errors, WHY?
            Quote: wk
            more interesting is the qualification of a mechanic doing repairs in my house.

            I will answer you yours.
            Quote: wk
            it's like in that liberal propaganda about "Lenin's cook",

            So with you, every locksmith considers himself a strategist and politician.
            In general, we stop srach in the subject, Everyone remained in their own opinion.
      2. Buffalo
        Buffalo 12 November 2015 09: 27 New
        +6
        I do not exclude that it is Starikov who scribbles here, under the pseudonym Kamenev.
        Strelkova in the Donbass, everyone saw. And who saw Starikov there ?!
        Envy of Strelkov’s glory haunts some ...
  • wk
    wk 12 November 2015 06: 31 New
    +4
    "" Syrian adventure "I heard such a definition of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria in a recent interview with Igor Strelkov. These words were unexpected from him, because they coincided with the definitions of the State Department and ukroSMI. Maybe this time they are telling the truth, and Strelkov coincides with them against their will? "
    the author is cunning, to put it mildly, in his attempt to discredit Strelkov (Girkin) by pulling the phrase out of context and not bothering to place this video in full format in his material .... the site's capabilities allow ..... it's like in that liberal propaganda about "Lenin's cook "which is turned upside down .... about Bismarck's words taken out of context ... that agreements signed with the Russians are not worth paper ..... or Stalin's words that he never said (about how we will count ) .... or became common nouns "there is no man, no problem" ... grafted into the population into the frenzy of liberal reforms .... many still believe this to be true ...
    the point is that whoever is not too lazy to watch this interview with Strelkov will fully understand why he said so .... in short, that Syria had to be dealt with from the age of 12
    .... the fact that defamatory articles on Strelkov with regular consistency began to appear on VO only strengthens the faith of real patriots that besides the fifth column there is SIXTH ... more dangerous than an open fifth!
    PS: I myself am not a 100% fan of Strelkov and a member of the "putinslil" sect ... everything is very difficult .... and the author deserved thirty pluses (silver coins)
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 12 November 2015 07: 00 New
      +5
      Vitaly, what did you write about? you mixed cutlets with flies. Not being a supporter of Putin, Girkin, they mixed in here Stalin, Lenin, Bismarck. So who are you? and what do you want to say?
      For me personally, Strelkov ceased to be a hero when he contacted El Murid, and when he started screaming, everything disappeared in the Donbass last year. A person is judged by his actions, and not by his image, which he profiled.
      1. wk
        wk 12 November 2015 07: 11 New
        +4
        Quote: Sirocco
        and what do you want to say?

        exactly what he said ...
        Quote: Sirocco
        For me personally, Strelkov ceased to be a hero

        No one has yet appropriated a hero to him, you are ahead of events ... maybe you have a gift?

        Quote: Sirocco
        A person is judged by his actions, and not by his image, which he profiled.

        what defamatory actions did Strelkov committed? ...... the image is pumped up and blown away by "kisselTV" and others like them .... and as for ukroSMI and other liberal media, they do not praise him anywhere, but express cold respect, as to a really strong, courageous and decisive enemy .... this is not a fake "babay"
        1. Denis DV
          Denis DV 12 November 2015 10: 48 New
          -2
          Quote: wk
          as for ukroSMI and other liberal media, they do not praise him anywhere, but express cold respect as to an really strong, courageous and decisive enemy ....

          EOPER ballet, are you serious? laughing made laugh laughing
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        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 12 November 2015 07: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: wk
          what defamatory actions did Strelkov commit?

          Yes, it’s generally soft and fluffy, you probably don’t carefully read both the posts and the press, I’m silent about TV, you just have to leave the ostrich’s head in the sand. Especially for you, why he is not a HERO for me, as for you.
          1. Communication with the blogger El Murid.
          2. In the conflict in the Donbass, the first to start screaming that Putin leaked, and everything was gone. (Search through the networks and find)
          3. Negative feedback on the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria.
          Maybe you know more than me about his exploits, then enlighten.
          In the first post to you, I wrote about role him, there is subtext here. Joke. Vasily Ivanovich, Anka crawls to white, let me shy away from her? Do not touch her Petka is our biological weapon.
          You do not mean it by chance, defending the HERO so fiercely.
          1. wk
            wk 12 November 2015 07: 25 New
            -7
            Quote: Sirocco
            Negative feedback on the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria.

            and in Syria the mountain really gave birth to a mouse! .... if not worse considering Airbus and the recent retreat of Assad’s army ...
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 12 November 2015 07: 33 New
              0
              Quote: wk
              and in Syria the mountain really gave birth to a mouse! .... if not worse considering Airbus and the recent retreat of Assad’s army ...

              So you showed your true face. laughing
              As in the posts above, you stated that you are not a fan of Girkin, but harnessed for him not childishly.
              Why lie then.
              1. wk
                wk 12 November 2015 07: 46 New
                -4
                Quote: Sirocco
                So you showed your true face.

                Yes, I believe that while in Syria a zilch turned out ... the sky is not closed, oil fields and plants have not been destroyed, Assad’s offensive has drowned ... even Damascus has not been cleared .... but this is my opinion that has developed to date, not at all connected with Strelkov’s opinion that he expressed at the beginning of the company (as an assumption)
                1. EvgNik
                  EvgNik 12 November 2015 08: 56 New
                  -2
                  Quote: wk
                  but this is my opinion that has developed to this day, not at all connected with the opinion of Strelkov that he expressed at the beginning of the company

                  Well, how is it not connected? If you enthusiastically quote Girkin, express his thoughts and sometimes express a complete misunderstanding of the situation? However, like Girkin.
                  1. wk
                    wk 13 November 2015 05: 36 New
                    +2
                    Quote: EvgNik
                    Well, how is it not connected? If you enthusiastically quote Girkin, express his thoughts and sometimes express a complete misunderstanding of the situation? However, like Girkin.

                    MISTER OF THE ABSOLUTE! .... find at least one Strelkov quote in my posts .... even with rapture even without ....
                    and you seem to be on duty multi-station commentator moonlighting during working hours on an office computer)
                    you seem to have a license to determine who understands the situation and who does not ... such a high opinion of yourself is dangerous .... talk with a psychologist or with Father in the Church .... look at your feet, not at heaven!
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                2. Good me
                  Good me 12 November 2015 09: 43 New
                  0
                  Quote: wk
                  Yes, I believe that while in Syria zilch turned out ... the sky is not closed, oil fields and plants have not been destroyed

                  This situation, many, and me in particular, does not inspire. In my heart, too, I have "ambivalent feelings" towards the leadership of the operation, similar in feelings to our "policy" in relation to Ukraine, but this is not a reason for panic. Let's wait ...

                  Let's hope EVERYTHING IS FORMED ... And in Syria, and in Ukraine.
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            2. Good me
              Good me 12 November 2015 09: 37 New
              0
              Quote: wk
              and in Syria the mountain really gave birth to a mouse! .... if not worse considering Airbus and the recent retreat of Assad’s army ...


              You are not right ... The "resolution of the burden has not yet happened, so that one can assert about any results."

              Now, we are only seeing "labor pains" ...
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          3. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 November 2015 10: 50 New
            +5
            Quote: Sirocco
            1. Communication with the blogger El Murid.

            If I'm not mistaken, VO also has a connection with El Murid, because his articles here often flashed, and with a large number of pluses. laughing
            1. Good me
              Good me 12 November 2015 11: 47 New
              +2
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              If I'm not mistaken, VO also has a connection with El Murid, because his articles here often flashed, and with a large number of pluses.

              Zrada ??? !!!
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 12 November 2015 13: 19 New
                +2
                Quote: Good Me
                Zrada ??? !!!

                True, true, the kindest! The site history is easy to find.
                The finger is not tired of putting cons? Do you want to put a plus sign in response? If you want, you want, I know. Hold on.wink
  • ydjin
    ydjin 12 November 2015 06: 37 New
    0
    The time has come when it will not be possible to sit quietly on the sidelines, only each step must howl precisely and precisely!
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 12 November 2015 06: 39 New
    -1
    There is logical reasoning such as Dnald Trump, who draws the right conclusions on US policy.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 12 November 2015 08: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander 3
      There is logical reasoning such as Dnald Trump, who draws the right conclusions on US policy.

      This is just an election campaign, and no more. Do not flatter yourself.
      1. wk
        wk 13 November 2015 05: 40 New
        -1
        Quote: EvgNik
        This is just an election campaign, and no more. Do not flatter yourself.

        one plus deservedly!
  • parusnik
    parusnik 12 November 2015 06: 47 New
    +8
    But if then the Republicans would have won in Spain, history would have gone the other way, the Second World War was delayed and Russia managed to rearm... I will not say about the postponement, but the fact that strategic cargoes went through Francoist Spain for Germany, up to the drink "Fanta" for German pilots it was .. And after the defeat of Germany .. Spain was one of the points through which the Nazis fled to America ..
    1. wk
      wk 13 November 2015 05: 57 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      But if then the Republicans would have won in Spain, history would have gone the other way, the Second World War was delayed and Russia managed to rearm.

      and you know, there are doubts (as it does not sound cynical) that Soviet Russia and Stalin needed the victory of the Republicans .... they all constituted a complete rabble: socialists, Trotskyites-communists, anarchists of all stripes .... forces like the CPSU (b ) capable of establishing a stable regime, an allied USSR was not there!
      but certainly our help was not in vain .... a country ruined by a civil war practically became neutral, although it was officially friends with Germany ... could not be a serious help to Germany either economically or militarily .... yes, there were some volunteers on the side Germany, but it’s so zilch .... Spain did not become Italy or Romania, which fought, nor Czechoslovakia forging Wehrmacht weapons ... etc.
      so that Stalin squeezed everything he could in this situation.
  • magician
    magician 12 November 2015 06: 47 New
    +4
    "In general, the Syrian war raises many analogies with the Spanish war, which was a harbinger of World War II, unleashed by Hitler. Is history still going in circles, and the world can do nothing about it?"

    It seems that all the efforts of foreign policy must be made so that this does not happen again.
  • Aleksiy
    Aleksiy 12 November 2015 06: 56 New
    +1
    “Syrian adventure” - I heard this definition of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria in a recent interview with Igor Strelkov. These words were unexpected precisely from him, because they coincided with the definitions of the State Department and Ukrainian Media. Maybe this time they are telling the truth, and Strelkov coincides with them against his will? ”- again taken out of context. I watched Strelkov’s interview, and his main idea was that FIRST to deal with Ukrainian fascism at hand, and THEN help Syria. If Strelkov was the mouthpiece of the State Department, then he would speak like an echo of the matzah and others like them, but this is not so.
    1. Ivan Slavyanin
      Ivan Slavyanin 12 November 2015 07: 19 New
      +1
      Shooters are not STRATEG !!!!! He, maybe a good field commander, and, therefore, maybe just a good tactician ?! Or is all the secret intelligence flocking to him that he can so freely criticize Putin and the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces? Yes, he does not see beyond the tubercle before his eyes, since he suggests first to deal with Ukraine!
      "TACTICS WITHOUT STRATEGY THERE IS A LARGE NOISE LEADING TO DEFENSE. STRATEGY WITHOUT TACTICS THERE IS A LONG WAY TO VICTORY" (SUN TZI "THE ART OF WAR").
      Do you know how to play chess?
      1. Aleksiy
        Aleksiy 12 November 2015 09: 10 New
        +2
        Here, take the chess and tell about the strategy of Zi to those who are sitting in the basements in the Donbass, or freezing on the front lines, cripples, relatives of those killed for Russia, those who believed. But somehow it turns out that Strelkov says that every day the Russians die, the lack of everything in New Russia, the enemy is he, what Starikov is, a kind of gentleman remarks: well, international situation, Sun Tzu Alaviard ...
        1. Denis DV
          Denis DV 12 November 2015 10: 37 New
          -3
          Here, take the chess and tell about the strategy of Zi to those who are sitting in the basements in the Donbass, or freezing on the front lines, cripples, relatives of those killed for Russia, those who believed.

          Humcon convoys fall from the sky by themselves?
          1. KGB WATCH YOU
            KGB WATCH YOU 12 November 2015 11: 10 New
            +1
            Ask about the Russian humanitarian convoys of LDNR residents, they will tell you in detail.
            1. Denis DV
              Denis DV 12 November 2015 12: 51 New
              +1
              He asked, they say, he really helps out, but about Strelkov they don’t speak very well or not at all, they don’t care about Internet stars. hi
  • Stanislas
    Stanislas 12 November 2015 07: 19 New
    +5
    Why Igor Strelkov got into bad company with the State Department, and not with General Ivashov, I don’t understand
    This information is embarrassing to my fragile mind for another sixty years. Having previously believed in Strelkova the hero, I do not want to believe in Girkin the traitor. I rummaged through the article, for what would catch.
    The Putinslil Internet party is far from this “oil painting”, it wages war only with Kiev in Ukraine
    Mistake The Internet-based party "Putinslil" is at war only with the Donbass in New Russia, so it will be more correct. Wait and see.
    A big request to the authors and the editors: try to give out more positive information in the morning, leave the negativity in the afternoon. And then the reader, relaxed by sweet dreams, gets a blow under the breath from the mornings. Do you need it?
  • Quall
    Quall 12 November 2015 07: 39 New
    +6
    I don’t understand the outrage of Strelkov’s fans by criticizing his idol. Strelkov, of course, has the right to express his opinion. This is without question. But in the same way, all other people have the right to express their opinion, including about the opinion of Strelkov.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 12 November 2015 09: 05 New
      -5
      Quote: Kwall
      I do not understand the indignation of Strelkov fans by criticizing his idol

      Absolutely agree. Now they are looking for enemies and blacklisted, and minus mercilessly. Recently, the same story was with an article on Israel.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir 13 November 2015 11: 04 New
      -1
      I don’t understand the outrage of Strelkov’s fans by criticizing his idol. Strelkov, of course, has the right to express his opinion. This is without question. But in the same way, all other people have the right to express their opinion, including about the opinion of Strelkov.

      With the "idol" you went through. Have your opinion, no one minds.
      But, do not deny that attacks against Strelkov are in the nature of a company, this time;
      and are unproven, and sometimes just slanderous, these are two;
      criticism comes from people who do not smell gunpowder, these are three.
      --------
      I would not pay attention to Strelkov’s private opinion, especially since he doesn’t have such a rostrum as his opponents, BUT, they constantly remind us of him ..
      This is very strange, don't you find?
      I admit, I was already annoyed by such close attention to Strelkov amid more important problems.
      It seems to me that our analytic analysts have chosen the figure of Strelkov as a "whipping boy". It's not beautiful.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 12 November 2015 07: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: Aleksander
    This is Strelkov’s assessment and - he has the right to do this - they should not all blow into one pipe. Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.

    With all due respect to Strelkov, he is not a politician and now THIS is even better seen than a year and a half ago, when Strelkov was at the zenith of his fame. He bet on the war in Ukraine and now he is offended that he "made a mistake" in his calculations. He should take the motto "Do what you must and come what will."
  • tomket
    tomket 12 November 2015 07: 53 New
    +4
    Comrade Kamenev, if you decided to tell us about how Strelkov fell into the "Syrian adventure", along the way listing victorious media reports about military successes on the fronts and the legions of allies, then remember the exploded flight by Qatar. The fact that the Qatar flight exploded will be considered the main version voiced by Satanovsky. Because our government does not consider it necessary to voice anything at all in moments of failure. Actually, this is the expression of the "Syrian adventure". Is Russia ready to lose its citizens without being able to adequately respond?
  • tomket
    tomket 12 November 2015 08: 07 New
    +2
    On Military Review is a month - every day by order for Strelkova !?
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 09: 50 New
      +2
      Do liberal authors have menstruation? laughing
  • oracul
    oracul 12 November 2015 08: 17 New
    +2
    Girkin he is Girkin. He needs to understand that the hat is not in the shadow. The halo of glory, which his admirers surrounded after Slavyansk, gave birth to a myth that already lives on its own. What are the merits? He left Slavyansk, "proudly" left Donetsk, where he did not prove himself as the Minister of Defense.
    LDNR defended themselves in fierce battles in the Ilovaisky and Debaltsevsky boilers and continue to uphold and restore other people who do not need exaggerated glory, who defend their homeland, and do not play any games, trying to drag Russia into the bloody massacre. Strategist, plague his soul! At whose mill does Girkin pour water, offering first to deal with Ukraine, and then with Syria, as if ISIS and the United States would humbly sit and wait for our arrival? Patriotism is not a computer game where you can make a mistake, return to the starting position and look for another way to victory. The real life of such mistakes does not forgive anyone.
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 08: 40 New
      0
      Chatting with tongue - not carrying bags, my friend!
      You yourself, fought in New Russia? No? Only on the couch?
      1. nemets
        nemets 12 November 2015 21: 31 New
        +1
        I talked with those who fought and those who live there (in the Donbass), there is a friend in Transdniestria, those who fought there clearly will not forgive these yellow-blakitnye, it makes no sense to appeal to reason, to forgive, etc. - they are waiting...
  • tomket
    tomket 12 November 2015 08: 21 New
    +5
    Meanwhile ... Son from the first marriage of ex-Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov 27-year-old Sergei Serdyukov signed a new contract with the federal state institution "Tax Service" Federal Tax Service of Russia. The state structure from November 2015 to July 2016 of the year is obliged to pay a relative of the ex-official 945 thousand rubles per month for the rental of storage facilities. According to sources close to the official’s circle, renting real estate is today one of the main business areas of the Serdyukov family.
    Here it is. By coincidence, the tenant of Serdyukov is a government agency. G. Kamenev, it would be better if they did Serdyukov. It would be more useful.
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 08: 48 New
      +2
      Kamenev is an ally of Serdyukov.
      Shitting on Strelkova is a small business for Judas!
      He has a gesheft with that.
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    3. Aleksander
      Aleksander 12 November 2015 10: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: tomket
      The state structure from November 2015 to July 2016 of the year is obliged to pay a relative of the ex-official 945 thousand rubles per month for the rental of storage facilities


      I think that I will guess with 100% probability that these warehouses were recently state property (most likely the Moscow Region), which were sold to “effective owners” for “inefficiency and loss” for a penny. By chance, it turned out to be Stouretkin's son ... yes
  • Buffalo
    Buffalo 12 November 2015 08: 38 New
    -5
    After such an article, the author should flush the toilet!
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 November 2015 08: 39 New
    -8
    Firstly, it all sounds like a tricky plan. Power through such articles creates the appearance of dissatisfaction with Strelkov. And when a lot of dissatisfied with the government will fall under the banner of Strelkov, it turns out that Strelkov is a faithful messenger.
    As for Syria. hundreds of departures per day. and the result is close to zero, indeed even Damascus is not released. For some reason, no one is bombing oil fields.
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 08: 45 New
      +3
      Wipe your eyes! Damascus is not occupied by the enemy! "Expert" ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 November 2015 10: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: Bison
        Wipe your eyes! Damascus is not occupied by the enemy! "Expert" ..

        The suburbs are busy.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 12 November 2015 13: 24 New
          +2
          I see cons, there is no essence. The suburbs of Damascus are really partly occupied by terrorists. Who wants to object?
        2. nemets
          nemets 12 November 2015 21: 37 New
          0
          already 2 weeks as released - there are only centers of resistance in the face of nusra
    2. nemets
      nemets 12 November 2015 21: 36 New
      0
      zero result in the usa with 5200 sorties in three years !!!! but the crafts do not allow us to bomb the usa plus the terrorists themselves are clearly working there, if anything !!! we start to bomb, they will raise the hi that we are bombing peacefully. in the end, what will it lead to ?!
  • Hardy
    Hardy 12 November 2015 08: 52 New
    +5
    Vile little article.
    Shooters maximalist. Some of his statements hurt, because our conformism pops out ... Against his background, it’s too noticeable how we are saturated with Western culture and are ready to negotiate with the strong. I don’t give ratings here, maybe Strelkov is outdated with his views and has enough cockroaches, but it’s nice that such a person is in contrast to our healthy, slightly overweight sofa patriotism))) There’s more benefit from Strelkov than from the author of the article trying earn points on someone else’s name.
    1. combat66
      combat66 13 November 2015 08: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Hardy
      There are certainly more benefits from Strelkov than from the author of an article trying to earn points on someone else's name.

      Perhaps it was useful, but not now.
      There is a huge difference between what he did in the Donbass and what he is doing now.
  • Buffalo
    Buffalo 12 November 2015 09: 00 New
    +4
    Analysts with a name like Henry Kissinger say that Russia is undoubtedly successful in the Middle East by pushing Russia out of the U.S. region, Russophobes with a name like Senator McCain sprinkle ashes on their heads and fall upon Obama, a weakling.
    To whom Kissinger is an authority, to that Strelkov is, naturally, an enemy!
  • smith7
    smith7 12 November 2015 09: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Aleksiy
    “Syrian adventure” - I heard this definition of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria in a recent interview with Igor Strelkov. These words were unexpected precisely from him, because they coincided with the definitions of the State Department and Ukrainian Media. Maybe this time they are telling the truth, and Strelkov coincides with them against his will? ”- again taken out of context. I watched Strelkov’s interview, and his main idea was that FIRST to deal with Ukrainian fascism at hand, and THEN help Syria. If Strelkov was the mouthpiece of the State Department, then he would speak like an echo of the matzah and others like them, but this is not so.

    Exactly! First Novorossiya, then Syria, and ideally, actively work both there and there. It seems that the "Syrian adventure" was launched to cover up the failures in Donbas. I am sure this is not a gamble, but fully justified actions, but first, we need to control the Donbas ...
  • Quall
    Quall 12 November 2015 09: 11 New
    +9
    I now think that if under the head of the Syrian army any of those claiming here that the result of the action of our air forces was zero, then the entire territory of Syria would be cleared of terrorist forces in a maximum of two weeks by the forces of one company. And at the same time, without any losses.
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 09: 20 New
      +2
      Wai dear, said well! laughing
      - Exactly in the hole! Sofa Napoleons will be killed on the spot.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 12 November 2015 09: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Kwall
      if under the head of the Syrian army any of those claiming that the result of the actions of our VKS were zero, then the entire territory of Syria would be cleared of terrorogs in a maximum of two weeks by the forces of one company. And at the same time, without any loss

      I’ll clarify. Fans of Girkin, led by him, would have managed for a week, first in the Donbass, then another week in Syria (with the help of the West, of course). But Putin does not allow them to enter all the troops of Russia! Not good on his part.
  • Denis DV
    Denis DV 12 November 2015 09: 12 New
    +1
    Strelkov (Girkin) is a seed of discord in our ranks, we need to close this topic. Out of feeble mind or malice, or by the right of the "present", he flutters, it does not matter - it is on his conscience. A split on this issue should not be allowed. stop
  • Victor Kamenev
    12 November 2015 09: 15 New
    -4
    Rudeness and unfounded accusations of supporters of Strelkov ... more substitute him. There is no point in answering them. It is impossible to be friends with such friends - because of their stupidity you will perish. As for the death of our airliner ... ISIS declared war on Russia long before the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces, and we must deal with Qatar. In general, fear of wolves - not to go to the forest. And we will not go to the forest, surround and score a bear in his own den.

    It is amazing how easy it is to create some sacred cows, whatever you do with them, it still turns out that the Central Committee of the CPSU.
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 09: 37 New
      +3
      Trifling allegations, this is for your part, my friend!
      By the way, are you constantly advocating for the Communists?
      Dead lion, even the jackal kicks.
      It is only in the Russian tradition not to beat the recumbent.
      Does this rule not apply to stone?
      1. dmb
        dmb 12 November 2015 15: 52 New
        +2
        Well, you sir and blurted out. And when did Mr. Kamenev fight for the Communists? He sings more and more of an ode to a wise guarantor, and to call him a communist is just the same as a rabbi lover of pork hams.
    2. Morrrow
      Morrrow 12 November 2015 21: 27 New
      +2
      Yes, because you write an obvious slander. All your points are controversial.
  • Buffalo
    Buffalo 12 November 2015 09: 15 New
    +4
    "Someone got a stone on the arm,
    Threw, viper - and no Cook! "
    V.S. Vysotsky
  • Turkir
    Turkir 12 November 2015 09: 37 New
    +4
    The rudeness and unfounded accusations of Strelkov’s supporters ... even more substitute him.

    Strange logic.
    Could you please explain how: "rudeness and unfounded accusations expose him even more", i.e. Strelkov? This is a very strange conclusion, to say the least.
    If you used the same "logic" when writing an article, then do not be surprised by so many negative opinions.
    -------------
    My opinion is that Strelkov is a decent person, but there is no politician from him.
    Another fact is surprising - if Strelkov’s figure is so insignificant, should he dedicate so many articles?
  • John22
    John22 12 November 2015 09: 56 New
    -3
    Shooters are absolutely right. After losing the Ukraine, Putin needed a small victorious war. Notice how the TV broadcasts daily about "victory" in Syria and "how hundreds of terrorists are fleeing."
    It's a pity that the 224 people who died on the plane will no longer say "THANKS Volodya". :(
    This is someone else's war and the gypsies (Arabs) are not our friends. New Russia - ours, and "gypsies" .... ???
    Turkey is nearby - not afraid, Bulgaria is nearby - not afraid, dozens of countries are nearby and not afraid of ISIS, and Putin was scared for a thousand kilometers and sent troops. Well, where is the logic ???
    It's a pity to watch the Russian Federation lose again. 15 years and some losses ....... Nothing positive (except for hundreds of Serdyukov and Vasiliev) ...: (((
    1. dvg79
      dvg79 12 November 2015 10: 43 New
      0
      By your logic, it was impossible to fight in Chechnya, because many hundreds of people actually died from terrorist attacks. It is better to fight ISIS in Syria by air than in Russia by infantry and tanks.
      1. John22
        John22 12 November 2015 11: 02 New
        0
        You must be able to determine the important and secondary. Chechnya is an immediate threat. It borders on the Russian Federation.
        Syria is a minor issue. God-forgotten desert. (Tales about the great danger of ISIS for the Russian Federation remain for yourself)
        If you have money (USA), you can fight for secondary interests.
        When the country is poor, it is necessary to fight only for the "important".
        Feel the difference?
        What is more important for the Russian Federation - Novorossia and Bandera or ISIS (somewhere for a thousand miles and 3 mountains)?
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 13 November 2015 09: 05 New
          0
          Quote: John22
          Chechnya is an immediate threat. It borders on the Russian Federation.
          You are being deceived! Chechnya does not border the Russian Federation, since it is part of the Russian Federation. In Belarus there is no sea, in the Rostov region there is no ski resort. Etc.
      2. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer 12 November 2015 11: 45 New
        0
        Quote: John22
        It's a pity to watch the Russian Federation lose again. 15 years and some losses Nothing positive

        It’s your screams to read and listen pitifully and disgustingly, Crimea was joined by you and others like you, A And the aggressors, but we have to turn the civilized west into go.v. but turn, back off what are you doing !!!!
        The first humanitarian columns went to Donbass, Once again we opened the baklniks and we ourselves, after the third convoy, will die of hunger A.A. And our country is your niche what are you doing !!!!
        Now Syria is yelling again that we are all khan, okay, you compare it with Afghanistan, so already with the insolent faces they began to yell that Russia had lost the war in the Donbas, and arranged a new war in Syria.
        What are you ... wassat completely lost conscience. angry
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  • sailor roman
    sailor roman 12 November 2015 10: 06 New
    +1
    I agree, "Strelkov is a decent man, but he is not a politician."
    Only the word POLITIC I would replace with STRATEG.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 12 November 2015 10: 51 New
      +1
      Only the word POLITIC I would replace with STRATEG.

      Honestly, in my understanding of a politician, he is always a strategist. But I agree to a replacement. smile
      --------
      It seems to me that Strelkov’s prosecutors do not understand Russian psychology or simply decency. If we see that three attacked one, then we absolutely instinctively begin to defend the weakest. Boomerang effect: the more they scold Strelkov, the more supporters he has.
      And rightly writes, see below, Dimon-chik-79 oh, so quickly forgotten, Brain, Basler and others.
    2. Morrrow
      Morrrow 12 November 2015 21: 30 New
      0
      Is a strategist who does not solve one problem immediately tackles another is a good strategist? Is a strategist who did not take advantage of his victories in August 2014 a good strategist?
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 13 November 2015 09: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Morrrow
        Is a strategist who did not take advantage of his victories in August 2014 a good strategist?
        A tactician would definitely take advantage. But then he is a strategist in order to act not according to the situation, but in the future. Are you sure you see this perspective well? A soft sofa to help you.
  • Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 12 November 2015 10: 07 New
    +5
    Rudeness and unfounded accusations, however, as well as outright lies lie from such articles here. One gets the impression that there was a certain order for Strelkov’s slander, not a day without such a bad manners. Based on what was read in some comments, it turns out that all the charges boil down to the fact that Strelkov had to die along with all his militia of the Russian patriots, without waiting for the promised troop entry. Perhaps this would suit many (and in the first place it seems to be the customers of this denigration). But instead of dying heroically, he still makes his way (with losses!) and this whole story with resistance and the Russian spring goes to a completely different level. And Strelkov, who did not fulfill his mournful mission, was thrown out of the Donbass. By the way, I would like to draw your attention to the tragic death, under very vague circumstances, of another patriot of the "Russian world" Alexei Mozgovoy, which is somehow not plausible and selectively hosted by saboteurs in Donbass. And the mysterious disappearance of Bezler and even with "Batman" did not work out clearly. And now it turns out that Strelkov is "scraped".
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    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 12 November 2015 10: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: John22
      It seems to me, at every opportunity, we should send our children to the West

      One must be baptized, if it seems. If you are not "cut off", of course ...
  • Yunik
    Yunik 12 November 2015 10: 25 New
    -3
    I don’t understand who Strelkov is and why he crawls into all the holes, maybe we’ll also choose Motorola in the State Duma. Everyone must do their job.
  • John22
    John22 12 November 2015 10: 30 New
    -2
    Quote: Unique
    I don’t understand who Strelkov is and why he crawls into all the holes, maybe we’ll also choose Motorola in the State Duma. Everyone must do their job.

    I agree. Everyone must do their job. You don’t know how to lead, you surrendered to Novorossiya, lost to Bandera, killed 224 innocent people, climbed into "Afghanistan", pros..al the economy - get off.
    15 years - one loss (and one victory, according to TV) .....
    1. Yunik
      Yunik 12 November 2015 10: 39 New
      0
      As always, Putinslil, why did you decide that you lost to Bandera, you are probably a specialist in geoeconomics, but about ruined people, it generally touches, maybe you and the Malaysian Boeing hang on Putin. Minus
      1. John22
        John22 12 November 2015 10: 48 New
        +1
        If you know such a game - football, then you heard that the main thing is the numbers on the scoreboard. Not how beautifully the football players run (bombed hundreds of fortified areas, thousands of terrorists flee, Ukraine collapses, Bandera die without gas), but the result is important.
        Facts: Ukraine - Bandera won 100%, Putin lost.
    2. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 12 November 2015 11: 14 New
      0
      224 innocent people, got into "Afghanistan" - these are still debatable arguments.

      I agree. Everyone must do their job. You do not know how to lead, passed Novorossia, lost to Bandera, asked .. for the economy - get down - and that’s right.
  • Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 12 November 2015 10: 31 New
    -1
    But if, then, Republicans would have won in Spain, history would have gone the other way, World War II was delayed and Russia managed to rearm ...
    By the way, this historical event can be viewed from a different angle, because if the USSR had directed all its resources to the war in Spain, then there would have been enough funds for 41 years, and there was still a "finca" ahead, the clashes on Lake Hassan at 38, and at 39 Khalkhin-Gol. And if you take into account the repression of the officers in these years.
    No parallels, just citing as a reason for reflection. Moreover, I consider the position of Russia in Syria verified, competent and, in my opinion, correct, but unfortunately not timely, although there may have been weighty circumstances that did not allow us to act in advance. But without a doubt the General Staff and the leadership of the Russian Federation certainly know more than all of us here "clattering on the keyboard."
    1. Quall
      Quall 12 November 2015 10: 44 New
      -4
      If the USSR sent ALL of its resources to the war in Spain, then the Republicans would have won in a month. And even less.
  • John22
    John22 12 November 2015 10: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: Dimon-chik-79
    Moreover, I consider the position of Russia in Syria verified, competent and, in my opinion, correct, but, unfortunately, not timely, although there may have been weighty circumstances that did not allow to work in advance. But without a doubt the General Staff and the leadership of the Russian Federation certainly know more than all of us here "clattering on the keyboard."

    This would be correct, subject to a developed and diversified economy and the presence of like-minded countries.
    In today's situation, with a stagnant, weak, oil-dependent economy. Otherwise, to a poor country, getting into such adventures is a mortal danger. The USSR was much richer and had friends - and he lost.
    If you are a beggar, then the points of application of your last strength should be chosen very carefully. Usually, those threats that pose an immediate danger are chosen. In this case, this is the territory of the exSSSR (and even that is not all). Ukraine - hundred Achilles' heel. Not some godforsaken desert in Asia Minor, but Ukraine and Novorossia. If you make the last effort, it was necessary here.
  • marinier
    marinier 12 November 2015 11: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: Aleksander
    This is Strelkov’s assessment and - he has the right to do this - they should not all blow into one pipe. Strelkov’s valuable quality is that you are always sure that he says exactly what he thinks.

    Nothing like that!
    I think 4to you and those who you think will not be out of place to listen to an opinion on a friend
    side of the barricades.
    About any imaginary, real losses Russian contingents in the form of V.K.S.
    DOES NOT DROP !!!!!
    Moreover, Mr. da other formations Min.Obor, RF, there is NO !!!
    If 4 something like that was like a hotia, it would be more distantly reminiscent, 4 it writes
    If it’s an agent, it was, then all the media in the West would have savored the news.
    Thank God with V.K.S. all TYPE-TOP

    P.S. And to this agent not having accomplished a chemical strategist who does not give rest
    laurels of Napoleon, it is necessary to cease to extradite the green for the real
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  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 12 November 2015 11: 45 New
    0
    I heard such a definition of the Russian Aerospace Forces operation in Syria in a recent interview with Igor Strelkov.


    And Strelkov is the ultimate truth? a person who suspiciously "changed his shoes" can no longer deserve trust.

    The adventure was the campaigns of Suvorov or Hannibal through the Alps, which were successful, because no one expected and it was impossible, I would call a miracle to survive in these snows, to maintain combat efficiency and not lose the remnants of the troops in cold and hunger, and then win the battles.

    And the videoconferencing operation is clearly thought-out, having specific terms, goals and objectives, armament, drugs, supply and support, a military campaign corresponding to these characteristics, moreover, legitimate by international law and the UN charter, the result of which cannot be uncertain.
  • v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 12 November 2015 11: 56 New
    -1
    Moscow prevented the fall of Damascus Assad and the creation of the state of ISIS with a center in Damascus!

    This alone justifies our costs. In addition, there is hope that Russia is firmly
    will become a powerful military base in the Balkans, in the soft underbelly of Europe.
  • CONTROL
    CONTROL 12 November 2015 11: 59 New
    0
    ... Once upon a time - it seems last Friday ...
    Long ago and thoroughly, the United States declared the USSR, and then Russia, its main enemy on the planet! They stood and carried out insidious plans (with varying success), developed programs to counter, counter the "Russian threat", and restored their allies-vassals against Russia ...

    And what is Russia - following non-linear logic, will declare the main enemy of the Congo ... or Indonesia?
    Or once again say imposed on your teeth - ISIS: the brainchild of the United States, born and nurtured by the United States ...
    ... yes, what are we talking about? about the birds? ... forgot, forgot ... It's hard to be an old senile ...
  • Turkir
    Turkir 12 November 2015 11: 59 New
    +4
    Such extreme opinions about Strelkov that you involuntarily recall Ivan Bunin: "Of us, as from a tree - both a club and an icon."
  • John22
    John22 12 November 2015 12: 23 New
    -5
    Quote: v.yegorov
    Moscow prevented the fall of Damascus Assad and the creation of the state of ISIS with a center in Damascus!

    This alone justifies our costs. Besides, there is hope that Russia is firm
    will become a powerful military base in the Balkans
    , in the soft underbelly of Europe.

    Oh, these dreamers.
    In the country, salary delays from state employees have already begun, for 2016 the entire stabilization fund will be consumed, and you dream .....
    Because of such dreamers, the USSR fell apart, and now Russia is rolling .... (
    RF - A POVERTY COUNTRY, as you do not understand. What can be ambition ????
    I have a neighbor (a vodka gourmet), dressed up as a macho man for the holidays, and then he walks around and shoots a tweet ... But HERO !!!!!!!
    Yes chokh on Damascus. This is their land, this is their country, let them shoot each other or agree. Why should I save strangers from my pocket and with the lives of my citizens?
    Putin himself did not understand where he climbed ..... (Read on the Internet the opinion of Professor G. Mirsky about this swamp where the Russian Federation fell.
    Yes, it’s too late, backward only with your feet ... :(
    1. Quall
      Quall 12 November 2015 12: 34 New
      +2
      Ambition - it would be if we began to bombard Mesxic and in Canada would arrange a coup. Yes, even if we stood up for Libya, this could still be counted as ambition. And now we are solving a problem that in the future will create a wild headache for us. If you want, you don’t want, but you have to deal with it already.
    2. science fiction writer
      science fiction writer 12 November 2015 12: 47 New
      0
      Oh, these dreamers.
      In the country, salary delays from state employees have already begun, for 2016 the entire stabilization fund will be consumed, and you dream .....
      Because of such dreamers, the USSR fell apart, and now Russia is rolling .... (
      RF - A POVERTY COUNTRY, as you do not understand. What can be ambition ????

      Whose will you beIvan Ivanov??? your name is too strange for
      Russian citizen, rude work my friend.
      1. John22
        John22 12 November 2015 12: 59 New
        -2
        I, unlike most writers here, probably a patriot of my homeland. I'm trying to take care of наших people, and not about Serdyukov with Vasilyeva, not about some Arabs or Papuans and a beautiful picture on TV or medals on the head’s chest.
        1. science fiction writer
          science fiction writer 12 November 2015 13: 27 New
          -1
          I, unlike most writers here, probably a patriot of my homeland

          Then give the facts where and to which state employee the salary was not paid
          because of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces and not the air, shake the patience. angry
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        3. mark2
          mark2 12 November 2015 14: 17 New
          +1
          People who talk about the priority of the state’s concern for citizens, are a little cunning or do not understand that they will not be able to sit out. What do not take up ISIS today, tomorrow they will be here. Passed already. Ostrich politics never averted a blow. When there is a war near by, waiting for hordes of fanatics to come to us is the last thing. Attack Prevention is the first point to protect yourself.
          Why not protect citizens by striking at a potential adversary in his own territory, especially since this adversary has repeatedly declared his intentions at the expense of Russia?
          It would not have been possible to sit out. Believe me. Russia is a "lucky" country in this regard. we never managed to sit out. Russia as the largest country on this continent is simply like a bridge between the East and Europe. And we identify ourselves with Europe. We are Christians, but those who do not believe in God live one fig according to the canons of Christian morality. We are a secular state, quite prosperous, especially against the background of those countries that were pulled out of the Middle Ages, but they did not say how to live further and even colonized, and then they simply abandoned it as an unnecessary thing. For them we are the same Europeans and Americans, simply because we live better than them, richer, if you like.
          ISIS ideologists point to the north and north-west with a finger and tell the poor and unfortunate people that all problems are solved there, that it is worth destroying all the infidels - and earthly paradise will come.
          It does not come, that's just the point.
          1. Max_Bauder
            Max_Bauder 13 November 2015 08: 31 New
            0
            Quote: mark2
            Attack Prevention is the first point to protect yourself.

            Quote: mark2
            you can’t sit out.


            I absolutely agree with you that you can sit out for some kind of Papuans of New Guinea, on whom we all eat, they will live in their stone age for another thousand years, until someone thread comes to colonize again, even Poland does not stay if it is between an anvil and a hammer they use it against one of the parties, to say nothing of Russia, trying to stay out it will look like a bear hiding behind a mop, Russia has the largest territory with the largest reserves of resources for centuries, it was, is and will be trying to conquer, so that one must accept fate, or surrender or fight, another is not given, is there a desire to give territory?
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  • Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 12 November 2015 12: 28 New
    +8
    If for each custom article yes for 10 rubles, then it’s clear that these articles appear every other day. Why sit on the conveyor, it’s better to rush to the fan with poop. The site started to pace, especially in recent times, it’s not without reason that many great guys left here. there will be a full Urya and Odobryams with Glory to you, Beloved and Beloved. We have already passed this. The main comment in the forefront was to shout to Uru Solntseliky and all the hockey. And then the grass does not grow.
    1. tomket
      tomket 12 November 2015 12: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      .And then the grass does not grow. Not comments, but declarations of love, although no woman is recognized to whom.

      Rejoice that it’s not Leonid Ilyich’s time, otherwise you would be gagging about the monitor with your gums ...
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      If for each custom article yes 10 000 rub, then it is clear that these articles appear every other day.

      The order only for Strelka is accepted, or can we say dirty tricks about Hitler?)
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      The site began to look paltry, especially in recent times, not without reason many great guys left here.

      Well, the example of "Censor" is contagious .... Full patriotic idyll and harmony.
  • MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 12 November 2015 12: 31 New
    -1
    The trouble with Mr. Strelkov is that he turned out to be a "lover of fame." After spending some time on the Olympus of fame, when he was known as the hero of the defense of Slavyansk and also fleetingly descended from it, Strelkov felt uneasy. How?! He is, but no one talks about him, have you forgotten ?! So he went all out ... He is trying to become a politician, pouring water on the mill of the US State Department and building a rotten opposition to GDP. Strelkov, who are you?! .. From a "hero" you become "Ivan - not remembering kinship" ...