Tupolev received an order for two Tu-214PU-SBUS aircraft

PJSC "Tupolev" in information messages about the decision of the Board of Directors has published data on the signing of a new contract for the construction of 2-x aircraft of the Tu-214 family. The agreement was signed with the United Aircraft Building Corporation, the end customer is not specified. This is reported by the blog. bmpd with reference to his colleague alexeyvvo.




The author believes that the customer may be the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, for which Tupolev is building “two planes with serial numbers 529 and 530”. One of them was spotted in April at the Kazan Aviation Plant during the arrival of Sergey Shoigu.

From the information it follows that "new aircraft will be built in the version of the Tu-214PU-SBUS, equipped with a special on-board communication node SBUS-214".

The contract value amounted to 5,6 bln. Rub., The due date until the end of 2017.

The publication also notes that, to date, two such aircraft have already been “built to the order of the Office of the President of the Russian Federation (RA-64517 and RA-64520)”.
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  1. Archikah 10 November 2015 13: 28 New
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    Here it is - an alternative to broken junk. Well, what are our companies not buying? Again a conspiracy and Masonic affairs! am
    1. Just Ilyich 10 November 2015 13: 33 New
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      You are wrong here, this modification must be urgently modernized. The development of this machine for 30 years
      1. Duke 10 November 2015 13: 38 New
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        May 12 from the airport of the Kazan Aviation Production Association. S.P. Gorbunova took off on a first flight a new aircraft, commissioned by the Office of the President of Russia, - the Tu-214PU air control center (RA-64517). The machine is intended for flights around the country and during foreign visits of the top leaders of the state - the President and the Chairman of the Government of Russia - and is equipped for this with all the necessary means of comfort and a variety of communication and control equipment.
        The first flight of the new aircraft was performed by a crew of test pilots A.I. Zhuravleva (crew commander) and D.Yu. Vyazankina (co-pilot), flight engineer E.B. Volkov, navigator E.A. Kudryavtsev and Leading Test Engineer V.N. Filimoshkina.
        The current Tu-214PU has become the third aircraft manufactured in the last two years at KAPO by order of the Office of the President of Russia. Last year, two Tu-214СР repeater aircraft (RA-64515 and RA-64516) were officially handed over to the Special Flight Unit "Russia". Both flew from Kazan to the base of the SLO Rossiya at the Moscow Vnukovo Airport on June 1, 2009 (see “Takeoff” No. 6/2010, p. 12). In total, an order from the UDP available today for Kazan aircraft manufacturers provides for the release of six "special boards": two Tu-214SR, two Tu-214PU and two "aircraft communications nodes" Tu-214SUS. All of them are equipped with PS-90A engines developed and produced by the Perm Engine Building Complex and, due to the installation of additional fuel tanks under the cabin floor, have a non-stop flight range increased to 10 km.
        Two Tu-214SRs already in operation in the Arctic Ocean have replaced obsolete repeater airplanes based on the IL-18D turboprop, which provided for flight “board No. 1”. The new Tu-214PU will be used for flights by state leaders along with the two existing IL-96-300PU and IL-96-300PU (M) aircraft. It is expected that the first Tu-214PU (RA-64517) will be transferred to the disposal of the SLO "Russia" this year, and the next it will join the second (RA-64520). In 2011–2016 KAPO should put into operation and two Tu-214SUS.

      2. FID
        FID 10 November 2015 14: 39 New
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        Quote: Just Ilyich
        You are wrong here, this modification must be urgently modernized.

        And what to modernize, do not tell? 30 years of airframe development, and what has changed over the years? The air has become different or something else has changed? The B-737 was developed earlier, but it flies, the dog ...
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        2. Aleksandr72 10 November 2015 15: 28 New
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          The air, of course, remained the same. Well, the maximum smog has become more, and even then over the cities! But onboard avionics has changed dramatically, aircraft engines have become less noisy and voracious (which is especially important for long-haul passenger flights and airlines serving these flights). All over the world, Soviet / Russian-made aircraft have always had claims about the noise and low environmental friendliness of the engines, making it difficult to obtain a certificate of airworthiness. And plus to everything abroad at airports, they are simply not ready (or do not want) to serve Russian-made aircraft, it is easier for them to work with the usual Boeing and Airbus. Therefore, it is more profitable for Russian airlines to lease these same Boeings and Airbuses than to buy domestic ones (cheaper operation is less gluttony of engines, no need to pay fines for noise and low environmental friendliness, etc.).
          The B-737 was developed earlier, but it flies, the dog

          So the Tu-154 flies around Russia on domestic routes, while in Kazakhstan, in some places, the Yak-40 and An-24 continue to fly on local routes.
          I have the honor.
          1. Yuri from Volgograd 10 November 2015 15: 53 New
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            Quote: Aleksandr72


            So the Tu-154 in Russia flies on domestic routes

            I recall that the Tu-154 was assembled literally until recent years.
            And by the way, the Polish government just flew at them until the board was "planted" in the Smolensk forest.
            So the USSR’s sides will still plow the expanses of the fifth ocean.
            1. Bayonet 10 November 2015 17: 52 New
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              Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
              I recall that the Tu-154 was assembled literally until recent years.

              The first flight on the Tu-154 was performed on October 3, 1968. During serial production from 1968 to 1998, 935 aircraft were produced. The release rate sometimes reached 5 cars per month. From 1998 to 2010, small-scale production of Tu-154M aircraft (modernized) was conducted at the Aviakor Samara plant.
        3. Yuri from Volgograd 10 November 2015 15: 50 New
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          Quote: SSI
          Quote: Just Ilyich
          You are wrong here, this modification must be urgently modernized.

          And what to modernize, do not tell? 30 years of airframe development, and what has changed over the years? The air has become different or something else has changed? The B-737 was developed earlier, but it flies, the dog ...

          Well, firstly, progress does not stand still and requirements are changing.
          Secondly, in my opinion this is not a new production, but simply got the old unfinished "barrels" into which they will put new offal.
          If it will be interesting, a first-person photo from the workshop can be posted.
          1. FID
            FID 10 November 2015 16: 06 New
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            Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
            If it will be interesting, a first-person photo from the workshop can be posted.

            I’ll lay it out somehow ... Do not forget about the regime, they are building sides for SLO and KVR Tu-160 and Tu-22M3 ... And about avionics, a long time ago a "glass" cabin ...
            1. FID
              FID 10 November 2015 17: 07 New
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              Here, by the way, is the Tu-204 cabin ...
        4. NEXUS 10 November 2015 17: 05 New
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          Quote: SSI
          And what to modernize, do not tell? 30 years of airframe development, and what has changed over the years? The air has become different or something else has changed? The B-737 was developed earlier, but it flies, the dog ..

          I wish you good health, Sergey Ivanovich. The machine is notable, no doubt. But I have a question ... there are rumors that it was decided to resume the production of IL-96, with new stuffing and engines ... is that so?
          Best regards hi
          1. FID
            FID 10 November 2015 17: 30 New
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            Quote: NEXUS
            I wish you good health, Sergey Ivanovich

            Hello Andrey! Thanks for your kind words! And all the best to you !!! It would be nice to resume production, but here, in our country, nothing is supposed to be known in advance. The filling has been modernized for a long time, the motors ... PD-14 - they will put something from this series, I think ...
            1. g1v2 10 November 2015 18: 47 New
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              Good afternoon . hi I apologize, but I would like to know the opinion of a specialist. And PD14 is it generally possible to put on il96? And will it reduce fuel consumption significantly? Then just info appeared about the beginning of the PD-14 tests on the IL-76LL recently.
        5. Sling cutter 10 November 2015 17: 14 New
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          Quote: SSI
          FID

          Greetings, Sergey Ivanovich! hi
          According to the duroscope, they repeatedly declare the resumption of the release of the 96th ILusha ...
          It would be interesting to hear from you as much as possible?
          or again empty idle talk?
          1. FID
            FID 10 November 2015 17: 26 New
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            Quote: Stroporez
            It would be interesting to hear from you as much as possible?

            And the slipway and equipment - everything is safe, even a few workers were hired (they returned the old ones until the youth studied) ... It all depends on money, and on orders, and this is decided at home, you know where ...
            1. Sling cutter 10 November 2015 17: 31 New
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              Quote: SSI
              The whole thing rests on money, and on orders, and this is decided at home, you know where ...

              Now we will know who is to blame, if that ....
              Thank you. hi
          2. Samaritan 10 November 2015 17: 28 New
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            Indeed, God forbid health and patience: Samaritan SU Today, 08:20 | In Antarctica, the IL-76TD-90VD landed for the first time on an ice airfield
            Good people help, there are rumors about the restoration of the production of IL-96?
            Really? Http: //topwar.ru/85935-v-antarktide-na-ledovyy-aerodrom-vpervye-pri
            zemlilsya-il-76td-90vd.html # comment-id-5198666
            1. Vadim237 10 November 2015 20: 41 New
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              If they start to produce an updated IL 96, then only after 2020.
      3. Koshak 10 November 2015 15: 17 New
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        Quote: Just Ilyich
        You are wrong here, this modification must be urgently modernized. The development of this machine for 30 years

        Do you think that it is being released as it was developed 30 years ago? Yes, from that only the glider remained, and the entire filling meets modern requirements. Especially for the presidential detachment.
        1. Sling cutter 10 November 2015 17: 19 New
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          Quote: Koshak
          Especially for the presidential detachment.

          Namely, let the citizens fly on the trough, and let’s get rid of the gentlemen ...
          It used to be, all the best for children, and now for gentlemen!
  2. tomket 10 November 2015 13: 31 New
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    Whole TWO Tupolev? Well, just some kind of holiday !!!! Where will we put such an amount?
    1. Vladimirets 10 November 2015 13: 33 New
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      Quote: tomket
      Where will we put such an amount?

      In the sideboard.
      1. Bayonet 10 November 2015 17: 58 New
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        Quote: Vladimirets
        In the sideboard.

        Pozhalsta yes -
    2. SAM 5 10 November 2015 13: 34 New
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      Where will we put such an amount?

      Nitsche, Nitsche, we will configure new airdromes.
      1. drundel861 10 November 2015 14: 24 New
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        old ones would fill with domestic jets .....
      2. Bayonet 10 November 2015 18: 06 New
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        Quote: SAM 5
        Nitsche, Nitsche, we will configure new airdromes.

        ROSTOV-ON-DON. The new airport complex Yuzhny will be located in the vicinity of Art. Grushevskaya Aksaysky district. The project provides for the construction of an artificial runway with a length of 3600 m, a passenger terminal with an area of ​​50 thousand square meters, its throughput capacity will be 5 million passengers. in year. The airport complex will be equipped with 9 telescopic ramps. The customer of the investment part of the construction project is PJSC Rostovaeroinvest (part of the holding “Airports of the Regions”).
        Work on the site is performed in daylight hours. In November, with the installation of street lighting, it is planned to switch to a round-the-clock construction mode. At present, almost 600 builders and 88 pieces of equipment have been involved in the construction of the passenger terminal and other objects of the business area. All types of work are carried out in accordance with the approved schedule. hi
    3. Koshak 10 November 2015 15: 27 New
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      Quote: tomket
      Whole TWO Tupolev? Well, just some kind of holiday !!!! Where will we put such an amount?

      And why more to the presidential detachment? This is a special order.
  3. Tor5
    Tor5 10 November 2015 13: 32 New
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    By the way, a very good and reliable car!
  4. Wedmak 10 November 2015 13: 34 New
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    Why are the Moscow Region and the presidential flight detachment buying our planes, but there are no passenger companies? There are few kickbacks?
    1. Aroma77 10 November 2015 13: 38 New
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      Here, leasing and the corresponding percentage play an important role, and as you know, their percentage is much lower than taking in Russian banks. Perhaps, with a change in course, something will change in this world, the fate of Transaero is an example of this. Wait and see.
      1. Papakiko 10 November 2015 13: 54 New
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        Quote: Wedmak
        Why are the Moscow Region and the presidential flight detachment buying our planes, but there are no passenger companies? There are few kickbacks?

        Comrad, you are upset, however.
        1) This is security! (Moscow Region and Russia)
        2) In international harbors, an additional charge has been introduced for servicing our airplanes and plus the "noise" of our aircraft.
        3) It is necessary to train port staff and our airlines are not ready for such fees.
        The whole story goes into breaking swords and spears in the 90s around air travel with IAC, IATA, EPA, ICAO.
        And of course there is Temko for INSURANCE.
        You would personally follow the path of our airlines, believe me.
        1. Sling cutter 10 November 2015 18: 11 New
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          Quote: Papakiko
          Here, leasing and the corresponding percentage play an important role, and as you know, their percentage is much lower than taking in Russian banks

          Political Will and State. the program will solve all these issues in a day!
          Quote: Papakiko
          In international harbors introduced an additional charge for the maintenance of our aircraft, plus the "noise" of our aircraft.

          and countermeasures? enter the same thing.
          Quote: Papakiko
          And of course there is Temko for INSURANCE.

          All these excuses are constantly voiced by Dvorkovich ..
          Faberge always bothers the bad liberal dancers, and the people of Doshirak on the ears are still ndravitstsa.
    2. bastard 10 November 2015 13: 44 New
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      Quote: Wedmak
      Why are the Moscow Region and the presidential flight detachment buying our planes, but there are no passenger companies? There are few kickbacks?

      Sanitary shooting is time to produce, the number of gray crows has exceeded the critical number.
      1. Papakiko 10 November 2015 14: 31 New
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        Quote: villain
        exceeded critical numbers.

        Comrad, change the "photo", please.
        Nick and face do not harmonize.
        Your "face" is more like a ghoul, goblin, dzombak, etc.
        Your nickname corresponds to scumbags, gopniks and so on.
        "Scoundrel" in ancient times in Russia - this is a man unsuitable for military service
        (In no way did he want to be rude or insult)
        Danny Trejo is the most vokurat for you.
        1. bastard 10 November 2015 17: 40 New
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          Quote: Papakiko
          Comrad, change the "photo", please.

          You are not the first to ask me that. Let it be, I can say, I found, washed, cleaned, tamed and fattened it in the garbage. He is now full and kind.
          The Danny Trejo proposed by you does not suit me, he smashed, and I look very slender compared to him. And his face is even brutal, and on my profile picture - well, just a sweetheart and smiles. smile
          my photo from here:
          http://lurkmo.re/Радиация
          cool article, I recommend neighing.

          And did not think to be offended crying with a sense of humor, complete order. laughing
          hi
          1. Papakiko 10 November 2015 18: 16 New
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            Quote: villain
            and on my profile picture - well, just a sweetheart and smiles.

            The result of intravenous use of plutonium is as it is written under the photo.
            This bothers me a lot, because consciously and independently, of my own free will, no one will start to plutonium, etc., intravenously.
            It is terrible to think in which laboratory and which Mengele did this to someone.
            Quote: villain
            He is now full and kind.

            Well, your choice is yours to live with this “miracle”. drinks
            1. bastard 10 November 2015 18: 33 New
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              Quote: Papakiko
              The result of intravenous use of plutonium is as it is written under the photo.

              Quote: Papakiko
              It is terrible to think in which laboratory and which Mengele did this to someone.

              Photoshop is the great power of art! Have you read the article? This site has an interesting style, specific, with a mockery. drinks good
              1. Papakiko 10 November 2015 18: 53 New
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                Quote: villain
                Have you read the article? This site has an interesting style, specific, with a mockery.

                Yes, full action. wassat good
                Especially gaggled:
                I can’t say that if in the early 1950s in the USA (after Osima and Naga-ssaki) children's designers “Do it yourself nuclear power station, my friend” were still sold, which, in addition to nuts, bolts and various rivets with punch cards, included a children's dosimeter , various varieties of uranium ores and four bubbles with isotopes: lead-210, ruthenium-106, zinc-65, as well as polonium-210. Litvinenko approve. This is so that the inquiring child would put it all into an already built small children's reactor, and then measure radioactivity with a toy dosimetric.
                1. bastard 10 November 2015 19: 21 New
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                  Quote: Papakiko
                  Especially gaggled:
                  I can’t say, if in the early 1950s in the United States (after -Osima and Naga-ssaki)

                  I liked about body art in Brazil and about androids in Japan. Well, the young boy is pale with his eyes burning from the United States.
                  You can type there in the search, for example: Putin, Churov, hemp, etc.
                  I especially recommend RSP, GK, TP. In the end there are such things there, you open and. . .
                  Good luck buddy! But only from this address, from others it is blocked by Roskomnadzor
    3. hydrox 10 November 2015 13: 55 New
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      Quote: Wedmak
      Why are the Moscow Region and the presidential flight detachment buying our planes, but there are no passenger companies? There are few kickbacks?


      But there is simply no one who could hit the liber thieves on their hands!
    4. Asadullah 10 November 2015 13: 59 New
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      Why are the Moscow Region and the presidential flight detachment buying our planes, but there are no passenger companies? There are few kickbacks?


      And how do you imagine a rollback when buying an airplane? That is, if the price of an airplane is set by a person of 150 engineers, then 20 sales specialists overestimate it, and share the difference with the customer?

      Does the slogan require evidence? Hardly. But least of all he requires intelligence.
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        BMW 10 November 2015 14: 35 New
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        But least of all he requires intelligence.

        Of course, to understand that Western manufacturers are lobbying their interests through international organizations, the Federal Air Transport Agency and our government, you need to have a ward.
    5. fazayek 10 November 2015 15: 19 New
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      Probably because the option for civil defense and civilian are different in quality and price? Or do you seriously think that the president is flying a serial IL96?
    6. g1v2 10 November 2015 16: 01 New
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      Fuel consumption, insurance, maintenance. If airlines buy them, then the prices for airline tickets and so on will increase. For me and other government agencies, the main thing is that this is Russian production, and not how much kerosene it eats. Therefore, companies do not want to take their planes. However, now they seem to be beginning to force. Superjets actively push. I don’t think so. that Aeroflot so wanted to transfer to superjets. However, Aeroflot is state-owned and there are orders for 50 jets plus an order for 50 ms21, which is not yet in the world. I think that ms21 will also be sold voluntarily - forcibly. And this is already short-haul and medium-haul flights. Well, there it comes to long-range aircraft. The IL 96 may be upgrading or a new aircraft will be developed. Who has heard that someone is developing a long-range aircraft with us? By the way, it seems to me that Transaero was finished off precisely because Russian planes did not want to take it. Of 104 aircraft, only 2 tu204 and 3 tu 214. And Aeroflot will take its market share. Something like this.
  5. 31rus 10 November 2015 13: 37 New
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    And why only two and only in this version?
    1. avt
      avt 10 November 2015 15: 06 New
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      Quote: 31rus
      And why only two and only in this version?

      And how many of them are left behind? Four pieces can still be assembled, and then do, well, in the form of passenger, you need to revive the dead cooperation. request
  6. maxim1987 10 November 2015 13: 41 New
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    Quote: Archikah
    Here it is - an alternative to broken junk. Well, what are our companies not buying? Again a conspiracy and Masonic affairs!


    you want to say that instead of passenger Boeings, our companies need to buy flying command centers
    1. SAM 5 10 November 2015 13: 55 New
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      you want to say that instead of passenger Boeings, our companies need to buy flying command centers

      And you want to say that on the basis of these aircraft you can only issue command posts?
      1. Bayonet 10 November 2015 18: 12 New
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        And you want to say that on the basis of these aircraft you can only issue command posts?

        Not only! In May 2007, the first flight of the Tu-214 a / c Transaero aircraft took place.
        Beautiful bird!
    2. Amurets 10 November 2015 14: 16 New
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      Yes, the staff of office plankton will immediately decrease to the required level.
  7. Mountain shooter 10 November 2015 13: 44 New
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    Civilian companies overestimated the growth in traffic and their fleets are slightly large, and highly used leased aircraft are still cheaper than our new ones. There was information that the IL-96 will be launched again in a series, probably with the new Perm engines. This will be an enema.
    In the meantime, if it is profitable to carry junk for cheap - they will carry it! Not so long ago, heavily used foreign cars fled from our streets.
  8. Saburo 10 November 2015 13: 44 New
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    Most likely it will be something like a flying command post or electronic intelligence aircraft.
  9. dudinets 10 November 2015 13: 51 New
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    this, in my opinion, Serdyukov began to work. good luck Taburetkin!
    1. Armored optimist 10 November 2015 15: 53 New
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      This, apparently, is the reaction of the upper classes to the catastrophe catastrophe. Over the past three days, there have already been several decisions on our aviation. After our export from Egypt, I expect tough statements.
      1. Sling cutter 10 November 2015 18: 21 New
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        Quote: armored optimist
        This, apparently, is the reaction of the upper classes to the catastrophe catastrophe. Over the past three days, there have already been several decisions on our aviation

        To say nothing is to do, we have a huge television chatter-bolt for any public response wink
      2. NEXUS 10 November 2015 18: 50 New
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        Quote: armored optimist
        This, apparently, is the reaction of the upper classes to the catastrophe catastrophe. Over the past three days, there have already been several decisions on our aviation. After our export from Egypt, I expect tough statements.

        The most effective and constructive reaction to the watermelon disaster today is the destruction of the customer of the terrorist attack in Qatar. Satanovsky is right 100 times to identify and destroy the customers, so that everyone understands, regardless of rank, bank accounts and political weight, that if he decides to pay and order a terrorist attack where RUSSIAN people may suffer, he will simply be guaranteed to be found and killed.
  10. DenZ 10 November 2015 13: 52 New
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    Most likely it will be something like a flying command post or electronic intelligence aircraft.

    From the information it follows that “new aircraft will be built in the Tu-214PU-SBUS version, equipped special airborne communication center SBUS-214 ".

    This, as it were, from the article is perfectly understandable from the abbreviation of the aircraft brand.
  11. roskot 10 November 2015 13: 58 New
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    And I want our Russian planes to fly in our Russian sky.
    1. Bayonet 10 November 2015 18: 14 New
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      Quote: roskot
      And I want our Russian planes to fly in our Russian sky.

      And only Russian cars drove along the roads? By the way, which one do you have? wink
  12. NordUral 10 November 2015 14: 00 New
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    And then what? In a couple of years, a couple more sides?
  13. Corsair0304 10 November 2015 14: 02 New
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    We ordered two aircraft for the special needs of the defense industry - well. But this is not a panacea for Tupolev. Aircraft plants can live and develop only in the construction and maintenance of civil aviation (or to a greater extent). And two aircraft until 2017 - this is so, the poultice is half-dead.
  14. SAM 5 10 November 2015 14: 05 New
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    The Tu-214 passenger aircraft (the original name is Tu-204-200) is an improved version of the Tu-204-100 aircraft with an increased take-off mass and increased flight range. Tu-214 aircraft have been operated by several Russian airlines since 2001 on airlines with a length of more than 5000 km.

    The production of Tu-214 in small quantities is ongoing.

    Tupolev Tu-214 - a passenger plane. (Taken from Airlines Inform website)
  15. Armored optimist 10 November 2015 14: 21 New
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    Once I saw a flight of such an airplane on a flytradar. The president held a meeting in Petrozavodsk, and a repeater circled in the sky next to a perfect circle.
  16. afrikanez 10 November 2015 14: 26 New
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    I don’t understand what the hell to buy for Boeing (besides the old stuff), when you can easily make such a handsome man? Apparently you need the leadership of all airlines, shake well, so that they would not ruin the domestic production. Well, judge, sabotage.
    1. Armored optimist 10 November 2015 14: 35 New
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      Despite the fact that the Boeing costs 120 million rubles, and our 50.
  17. TVM - 75 10 November 2015 14: 35 New
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    Do not worry, now there is Serdyukov. He will put things in order with aviation. hi
  18. Lt. Air Force stock 10 November 2015 14: 47 New
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    But that's why the Tu-214, and not the new modification of the Tu-204CM, with new avionics, electronics and PS-90A2 engines?
    1. Samy 10 November 2015 15: 34 New
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      Yes, a nice, beautiful car. It’s not at all clear why it doesn’t.
    2. avt
      avt 10 November 2015 18: 38 New
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      But that's why the Tu-214, and not the new modification of the Tu-204CM, with new avionics, electronics and PS-90A2 engines?

      And because the cooperation at 204 U-NOR-SAME-ON and set up like a rally like DAM stomped NOT-WHO-CAN-BUT a year ago, well, by the pike command, like all the other competitors in the Super Budget, they’re doing the cars from the remaining backlog by the piece. The singers of the Super Budget will certainly sing you a song of a dead deer about the competition about airplanes that ANYONE DO NOT NEED - there are no customers supposedly, but the couplet about how much it costs in the LII in Zhukovsky to "refine" incomparable, and this is not irony - look and in the World, you probably won’t find a mediocre passenger airplane that won’t get so much buzz from the BUDGET, they won’t sing as well as about the next 10 yards that the GSS blew from the budget. As well as how many out of a total of 100 released during this time with such crazy financing really intensively fly to its intended purpose.
  19. F.Vastag 10 November 2015 14: 48 New
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    And ILYUSHIN, when it receives the Order for the Mass Serial production (line) of our Long-Range IL-96-400 aircraft (in the Passenger version), which will fully replace Boeings and Airbases (a Country with such a HERITAGE: A Unique Development History Domestic Aircraft Industry - Aviation of the USSR (including Civil Aviation) - Must fly on aircraft of OWN PRODUCTION).
    1. Samy 10 November 2015 15: 32 New
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      Will not replace. In this dimension, twin-engine aircraft, the A-330, B767-777-787 engine thrust up to 34 tons (the 96th 16 tons) are most effective. And we do not have engines similar in thrust, flight (reliability) and economy yet. And alteration to 2 engines is an alteration of the wing, landing gear, and then the center section. And this is a new plane. Of the analogs, only B 747 holds, but he leaves, loses with a 2-motor. A A-340 just did not go. Well, 4 motors were needed by ETOPS for flights over the ocean, but where do we have oceans?
  20. SAM 5 10 November 2015 15: 00 New
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    And ILYUSHIN, when it receives the Order for Mass Serial Production (line) of our Long-Range IL-96-400 Aircraft

    Quote: TBM - 75
    Do not worry, now there is Serdyukov. He will put things in order with aviation. hi

    Otag.
  21. Aksakal_07 10 November 2015 15: 21 New
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    Whole TWO Tupolev? Well, just some kind of holiday !!!! Where will we put such an amount?

    Tu civil planes for modern Russia as an Energy-Buran complex for the Secular Union. The main thing is to start, and where there are two planes, there are 20, and this is already mass production.
    1. Bayonet 10 November 2015 18: 26 New
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      Tu civil planes for modern Russia as an Energy-Buran complex for the Secular Union.

      I would not want such a fate for the “Tu”, because “Energy-Buran” flew only once! smile hi
  22. Vladimir65 10 November 2015 16: 24 New
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    When I was a student and worked at this plant in two shifts, then two planes did not count for the order, but now this is a whole event. The President of Tatarstan is coming. Maybe we’ll start to fly on our planes.
  23. Buffalo 10 November 2015 16: 32 New
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    It seems that bmpd and alexeyvvo have established a mutually beneficial business.
    Judging by the reviews on the same page about the activities of Slavonic Corps Ltd., bmpd is not its supporter ... Then, to whom do they supply this information, in whose interests do they publish the information?
    And alexeyvvo, probably with EMZ. And also involved in sharashka.
    Fortunately, the current system of publishing information on the conclusion of defense contracts is actually transparent.
  24. Cook 11 November 2015 00: 34 New
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    Yes, there will be nothing if ordered at such a pace. The whole world works according to the following scheme: a leasing company is organized, most often this structure belongs to a consortium of banks, sometimes it is affiliated with the manufacturer. The leasing company works with very large companies that can lease and load a large number of aircraft at once. As a rule, the lessor usually has several such large customers. Then the orders of these customers are consolidated, and the manufacturer receives a very large order (sometimes up to 200 pieces) for the production of aircraft. Naturally, with such a large order, the lessor receives significant discounts, sometimes up to 40% of the catalog price of the aircraft. The lessor, therefore, offers competitive leasing rates to airlines. The manufacturer naturally also does not remain unprofitable, since it is known that the larger the series, the lower the cost. Further, I will already have written it in some branch, a large company has been operating these new aircraft for 5 years, while the costs of maintaining airworthiness are minimal, and then rents them back to the lessor, and orders new ones from him. The lessor transfers these slightly poyuzannye aircraft to the airlines, the so-called second stage, then the third stage (as a rule these are already small companies) and so on until they knock out the entire resource. Becoming a customer of a lessor of the first or second stage is very difficult. In America, these are companies with a fleet size of 300-1000 aircraft. It is also important if the state acts as the guarantor of the airline, now I hope you understand why the AFL has the newest aircraft in the Russian Federation. Lessors naturally compete with each other, including by providing various preferences to airlines. If the aircraft model is new and not yet run-in, the discounts are naturally even more significant. This business is quite transparent, and the authorities or the Federal Air Transport Agency, for example, have nothing to do with it. All transactions are approved by the board of directors of the airline. So, scolding small charter airlines for the fact that their age fleet is not very correct, even if they have money, larger players push them away from new planes. Now compare what we have? Do we have such lessors able to order 200 aircraft and pay for them? Are there any such powers that can quickly produce a large number of competitive, in the broad sense of the word, aircraft? Establish normal software and release a sufficient number of spare parts. To do this, you need the will and a very significant amount of money. Let's not forget that Boeing, which the state helps by the way, is not only a civilian aircraft manufacturing division, but also Boeing helicopters, Boeing defense systems, Boeing space systems, as well as Boeing Finance. Airbus has almost the same thing. We need painstaking and very consistent work in this area. I’m afraid to frighten, but in my humble opinion, actions in the right direction can be seen on the examples of MC21 and PD14. But the creation of a modern aircraft and engine is only half the battle; then a lot will depend on the state and business. Unfortunately, Russian leasing companies such as Sberbank-leasing, VEB-leasing and VTB-leasing do not yet have sufficient experience and are still very far from understanding this type of business. I would like to hope that everything will work out with us.
    1. Buffalo 11 November 2015 02: 08 New
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      All would be nothing, but the trouble is: You did not start from that. - There is no big order and is not expected. The rest is all true, only meaningless.
      1. Cook 11 November 2015 06: 20 New
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        On Tupolev 204? No, and I think it will not be. Dear SSI already wrote that this aircraft was developed for a very long time, at the moment it is not a breakthrough, plus essentially piece production. Plus a little to the fence, due to lack of spare parts. The airline, for the most part who is the country of manufacture, is not particularly worried. The main thing is that the piece of iron would work without failures, fit into the business model of the enterprise and ensure acceptable flight safety. A large order will be, for new aircraft, only this is the result of joint work. The state needs to patronize this process, business to work hard, the aircraft builder to finally turn to face the operator. The manufacturer, especially at first, should live with the carrier's problems. And with us he is fighting for the honor of the company, even if he is wrong.