Strange consultants at the Russian ministries

In recent years, there has been a dispute that there is a clear oversupply of universities and students in Russia. By the number of students in higher education, our country ranks first in the world, however, given the qualifications of the majority of modern graduates and the more than obvious bias of universities for specializations of a humanitarian and environmental character, this first place clearly does not look like an achievement.

The Ministry of Education decided to take the path of the least mental expenses and began to correct the situation by a method of banal reduction in the number of budget places in universities - they say, so it will be possible to get rid of a large number of hunters for a university degree. If you believe the publications of news agencies, in the near future the number of budget places in Russian universities is planned to be reduced by 110 thousand. This is taking into account the fact that the percentage of graduates with a very dubious baggage of knowledge and skills (if such baggage is present at all) is “prepared” most often not at budgetary, but at commercial places of state universities or in non-state commercial universities that have grown in our country like mushrooms after rain.

Commercial universities manage to “train professionals,” without having in their staff a single representative of the teaching staff with proper qualifications and specialization. The “rental” scheme of teachers has entangled these offices, which open and work only as a business project of a person who often has nothing to do with education.

But the strangeness - universities, if one may say so, has worked, and continues to work like this - with the lists of Gogol "dead souls" instead of real students, but they decided to go through budget places in state universities, thinking about optimization. What this “optimization” can lead to is clear: the faculty of state universities, losing opportunities to work, will once again go looking for happiness into commercial “educational” structures, which, in principle, like a student’s preparation process, and where the graduate will be able to realize himself afterwards.

Of particular interest is the question of who can be behind making decisions about reducing the number of budget places in universities with the simultaneous process of commercialization of Russian education and squeezing out of it focus on the future and success as such.

One of the organizations that decided to seriously “take up” for education in Russia (then still in the USSR - 1989) is such a structure as PwC (PricewaterhouseCoopers). About myself PwC writes:

We believe that the best results are born in close partnership with our customers. Therefore, every day more than 2600 our professionals in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Kazan, Novosibirsk, Rostov-on-Don, Krasnodar, Voronezh, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk and Vladikavkaz are working to build strong relationships with customers and understand their tasks and aspirations.

We measure success with the benefits that we bring to our customers, employees and society.

What kind of success is it?

PwC is an international network of consulting companies with headquarters in London and annual revenues of 30 billion. In Russia, a network of companies sees its interest in virtually all areas of activity, including medicine, construction and education. Back in 90, PwC began to advise not only individual business areas, but also entire federal ministries of the Russian Federation. So, Price Waterhouse Coopers (possible - PUC ...) were in the sphere of interests, no less than the Ministry of Transport, the Federal Property Management Agency, the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the Ministry of Construction and Housing and Public Utilities and the Ministry of Education. Having taken root in the Russian ministerial environment about more than two decades ago, PUK and Western advisory offices like it do not diminish their activity in wanting to “direct” the activities of certain Russian departments along the path that is interesting only to Russia's “friends”.

It should be noted that the Price Waterhouse Coopers international network in Russia has become widely known in connection with the YUKOS case. The arbitration court acknowledged that the "consultants" of the PUK were direct participants in the formation of fraudulent schemes that were used by the Yukos management in their hectic activities, the generator of which was Mikhail Khodorkovsky.

The “jamb” of the PwC was recognized by the court, but this in fact did not in any way prevent the consulting network from continuing its work in Russia. So, in 2009, the Master's program “International Finance” appears in the educational system of Russia, which PUU launched in a joint project with (attention!) Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation, working on an agreement during the period 2007-2008 - that is, exactly when involvement in the fraud of Yukos was declared by the arbitral tribunal. That is, the structure, which was found to be engaged in unscrupulous business in Russia, gets the opportunity to cooperate with a government university. The same program “International Finance”, launched in Russia, is taught in ... English. Of course, it is clear that finance is international, but still there is a feeling that graduates based on it are not trained to serve Russian interests ...

Graduates of the university, with whom PUK cooperates: businessman Mikhail Prokhorov, Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation Anton Siluanov, ex-chairman of the Central Bank Viktor Gerashchenko. As you can see, PwC is, on whom to rely in today's activities "for the benefit of the Russian State" and thanks to whom to keep close to the ministerial offices ...

In this regard, the question is: can those ministries, including the Ministry of Education and Science, which still receive consultations through PwC and similar networks, can guarantee independent decision-making? Do they guarantee that such decisions do not go against the system of national security and the Russian statehood itself?

Comments

[Zoldat_A]

We have already seen "consultants" in the 90s ... Gaidarushka pulled, the earth is glassy to him! 500 pests with American and English passports went to the Kremlin on special passes. At that time, a friend of his son served in the Kremlin urgently, he checked these passes ...

And as for the graduates ... It used to be universities where they taught. Engineers, teachers, doctors ... And now the university pretends to teach, and the students pretend to study. The university gets its money, the students get useless crusts. My wife told me that their head of the department, Doctor of Philology, had been studying Russian literature all her life, running into the department and tearing her hair out: "IT IS FUCKING !!!! They didn't read MUMA !!!" Speech, by the way, about future journalists, fourth year. One or two people come to my wife for a lecture from a group of 15 people - and those minutes are 1 minutes late and sit as sheep. She told the rector, and she told her: "What to do? Do not deduct! They pay money, they fill the university, we will release it somehow ..." Who studied at a Soviet university, that will understand my culture shock ...

[Truth]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It used to be universities in which they taught. Engineers, teachers, doctors ..

Why are there universities!
The very sources, if I may say so, are destroyed - Vocational Education.
Everything is at the mercy of migrant workers - and these professionals, so professionals ... their mother.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Truth

The very sources, if I may say so, are destroyed - Vocational Education.

VVP speaks of "developing the concept of vocational education." Why develop there? Just kick the former tenants out of buildings and rediscover the heels. Then our welders will be able to cook, and bricklayers will be able to lay bricks. As a man who devoted many years after the army to construction, I am in shock. In a cultural, but I express myself extremely uncultured ...

[Same lech]

what the hell ... where does the owner look or does he save as a result of his stupidity otherwise this construction cannot be explained.

[BMW]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

where the owner is looking or he is saving as a result of his stupidity

And where did you see our smart hosts? Theft is so much in their blood that they are in their own right. And brainlessness in us simply flourishes everywhere.
We have a 10 point seismic zone. There is always a large puddle near the entrance in the spring. I always take a crowbar and break through the ice in the drain towards the storm. In one year, someone began to punch towards the entrance and the water stole under the foundation of the house. In the evening after work, I will fall asleep with snow and ice, the next day, again, I’ll dig up and the water under the house leaves. And so for two weeks, then I caught it when I arrived early. I almost screwed it up with a shovel. It turned out to be a lieutenant colonel of the medical service of the Ministry of Emergencies, who lives in our porch. I told him the moron that with a serious earthquake, the house could collapse with a washed foundation and bury his own family, and what for we generally need such dumb-headed rescuers. It seems to have come.

[kot28.ru]

Something in Sochi got sick of buying a house! I am so skilled craftsman Chinese door inserted the entrance to the apartment, rests only on mounting foam , because when he wanted to hammer the anchors, he redirected the power cable! I just know how the door is holding, you never know, and I drove out the Chinese in the evening, the miracle groaned from 9 am to 7 pm, collecting all the Chinese gods! She’s saving such money, he brought cosmetics himself, well, of him, non-Russian!

[Barakuda]

Yes, and plaster without mesh nafig fall off ..

[veksha50]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I'm in shock.

You are not alone ... Well, these are not builders, these are murderers ... And the owner of the house is a suicide ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Truth

Everything is at the mercy of migrant workers - and these professionals, so professionals ... their mother.

Yes! Recently, a builder acquaintance who heads a brigade of "free builders" told how they somehow took a "professional" from ......... "Turks" into the brigade - they kicked out a week later: otherwise they would have to to redo his work, he will continue to live and work in the same place where they live and work! The acquaintance also told how this "Turk", observing their methods of work, immediately called his fellow countrymen - "professionals" and told them how to work correctly ..... and not the way they still work. Yes, and I had to see how the "Turks" laid foundation blocks directly on the ground (in a region equated to the regions of the Far North!) to put on them country house; how they were going to put mdf slabs on mineral wool without any lathing ... etc.

[c3r]

Here is the answer.

[anfil]

And now the university is pretending to teach, and students are pretending to learn.

Urgent need to introduce a program to improve the quality of education

[sergeybulkin]

Graduates of the university with which the PUC cooperates: businessman Mikhail Prokhorov, Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation Anton Siluanov, former chairman of the Central Bank Viktor Gerashchenko. As you can see, PwC has someone to rely on in today's activities “for the good of the Russian State”

Now it is clear why our finances "sing romances" and Mr. Siluanov insists on increasing the retirement age.
Here I am terrified how interesting - who specifically launched these saboteurs from the PUK in the Russian Federation ??? After all, their efforts destroyed our education system!

[Tambov Wolf]

Who, who, a horse in a coat. The same as who Livanova, Siluanova, Nabiullina and iPhone still hold, praises and issues orders to them. Enough to pretend to be hoses. The entire personnel policy is in Putin's hands and there is no need to start tyagomotin about the king and the boyars.

[BMW]

Quote: Tambov Wolf

All personnel policies in Putin’s hands

Absolutely right. And if not in his hands, then what for he is generally needed.

[veksha50]

Quote: sergeybulkin

Here I am terrified how interesting - who specifically launched these saboteurs from the PUK in the Russian Federation ???

Um ... Some of them are still alive and well, prospering ... And the names on the ear, and the muzzles in the box glow with pleasure ...

[SibSlavRus]

It seems that in the Ministry of Education, these same graduates of commercial universities and settled where their curators, advisers of the liberal-western spill and stuck.

And what are we surprised at, friends? For example, training material on economics and market relations is still of a Western standard! Just as they were saturated with their textbooks in the early 1990s, so far little has changed.

The Kremlin has poached the SYSTEM of state formation of the socialist state and the guidelines of the citizen-creator, for capitalism and fooling.
But in general, this is: "Ignorance is one of the main pillars of the capitalist system."
For it is necessary for the approval and development of excess consumption.
Directly stamping on a new slaveholding economic system. Loans and a model of behavior have already been successfully imposed by the state ...

[CONTROL]

Quote: Zoldat_A

[b] Who studied at a Soviet university, that my cultural shock will understand ...

... the amendment is not "cultural", but culture ..- lo -... gical! ... In! Pancake...

[oblako]

Since the review is military, I will not fail to report that this is what "hybrid" warfare is in all its glory. Education is only one of his means. The enemy can only be defeated by depriving him of his knowledge, convictions and faith. There is no void, it must be filled. Our knowledge is replaced by not ours, our faith is replaced by someone else's ... a little time and our children are no longer our children. Like it or not, but remember the obscurantist Suslov ... and overestimate your judgments about him.))) There are instant-action ammunition, but there are "time-bombed" - education, culture and faith - one of them. This war will always be waged, the question is that it also has its own tactics and strategy ... And the marshals from our side, I don't see something in this army ...

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: oblako

Since the review is military, I will not fail to report that this is what "hybrid" warfare is in all its glory. Education is only one of his means. The enemy can only be defeated by depriving him of knowledge, convictions and faith

Well, and who, for the past 15 years, has approved educational policies — a policy that you have so famously attributed to one of the methods of hybrid warfare?

[igor.borov775]

Hello One of the largest states is located very close to us. China. In 2005, the country was headed by a new leadership according to the law of the country on generational change in the highest echelon of the country. At the congress of the ruling party, common goals and tasks were determined that all the country's elite should work on. I remember the mocking and contemptuous statements of our wise managers. Where you’re climbing, they say, it’s not Senka’s hat. The country is an assembly shop for consumer goods, this is how it will be. And they sent huge funds to modernize the production, began to fight against economically and inefficient production, and to build new technologically advanced production. And the most interesting thing was to declare the fight against production of low-quality production products. They were shamelessly eliminated. Unemployment was very high. Our oracles really flattered themselves that China would fall into several republics. A company developed in the country. Young people should learn how prestigious it is to be an engineer, technician, and qualified specialist. The slogan FRAME RESOLVE EVERYTHING has become the main one. In 2008, a crisis struck. China wisely managed its savings. In the world, there is a crisis and there is an opportunity to make green ones. The Chinese bought a lot of high-tech productions. The United States looked askance at this fair, but could not interfere with its domestic problems. In principle, after 2005, a large construction site, the country's new prime minister turned to compatriots abroad. If you are a good specialist in your field, you know how to work, help your native country .Tens of thousands of qualified engineers and technicians of people of many specialties have come to help rebuild the country with a cool education. It was a difficult and very productive decade. Here, news from China was often met with mockery. And he is completely different and our oracles have quieted down. And we still only dream about the growth of economic development. For success, some small shifts in the economy are modest for our country. One percent growth stands out for an unprecedented achievement. Of course, I understand that the President’s plan under these conditions is urgently changing, many items 20-20 are postponed. And in China, very respected people, skilled workers, technicians, engineers, scientists. What is happening in China is a fairy tale. A new The prime minister of a country called China sees the increase in domestic demand as the main one. These are not just words behind them are the country's economic power. And, as always, we have sanctions and we cannot. Listening to some experts on TV? that in crowds in the circles of the Government, plus ministers do not give reasons for accelerated growth. And the main thing is that I made listening to them they say it’s not time yet. Well, they say the international situation will change and WE will heal. Someone hardly believes in these wonderful assurances of those who determine the economic strategy of the state.

[dvg79]

The Chinese are not embarrassed to learn from the Stalinist USSR, as the Japanese did in their time. If they continue to pursue this course, their attitude towards us as barbarians will unfortunately become absolutely true.

[BMW]

Quote: igor.borov775

. Something is poorly believed in these beautiful assurances of those who determine the economic strategy of the state.

Why believe them? Anyone who can think a little on their own has long understood that this is an impudent and undisguised "driving over the ears" at full speed.

[igor.borov775]

Hi!! Here it is much more serious than it seems. At an economic growth rate higher than 6%, budget dragging is not so noticeable. In China, too, the struggle is very serious with this evil. And with us, with an increase of 03-1%, this immediately complicates the already difficult situation in the economy. What kind of increase in incomes can be talked about. Bullshit. It can only be about keeping the incomes of ordinary people at the same level. Inflation is hard for everyone. And the fight against corruption is a real show for the UK. Remember how the investigation turned around Vasilyeva. The Russian Federation said the sums were prohibitive and it turned out that such amounts were simply funny. And after that you can trust our figures from the Government. They created such ineffective government that embezzlement as a lottery. The quality of control is poor. Laws are good but they are good if there is a high growth of the economy and failures are not so obvious. When the growth is miserable, these things are annoying. I noticed that the loudest scandals for some reason are booming in Russia and the neighbors have scandals nearby, but they are much less common. I am about Kazakhstan, Belarus, Azerbaijan. Why so. There are other laws or people.

[bandabas]

Graduated from the Leningrad Polytechnic University twenty years ago. And we were taught by ZUBR. After defending my diploma, my curator (corresponding member of the Academy of Sciences) told me that I was his best diploma student. And the grandfather was still the same. Kostenko Mikhail Vladimirovich. Department of TVN. Yes, and they said, "We gave you the basic knowledge of where you will work, in production, in institutes, etc., etc. You know where to look." There was no smell of the Internet then. Books.

[nov_tech.vrn]

When my senior graduated from the university, he told me, "Dad, I did not pay for any exam during my studies, you would know how much money I saved you!"

[sgapich]

I support. During my studies at the Moscow Aviation Institute (4 faculty - FRELA), for all the time I paid only once - for printing posters (A1 format) for a diploma.

[dvg79]

My wife teaches at the university, they now have an attitude - how much they took so much and they should release a different khan for financing. You can imagine what kind of attitude to study is being formed. I myself helped her somehow check the tests, I was impressed.

[larand]

Quote: Zoldat_A

We have already seen "consultants" in the 90s ... Gaidarushka pulled, the earth is glassy to him! 500 pests with American and English passports went to the Kremlin on special passes.

And what do you think, with whom did Yeltsin, when he left, coordinate the candidacy of a successor? Maybe that's why everything goes in the Russian Federation, it doesn’t know where.

[veksha50]

Quote: Zoldat_A

" Those who studied at a Soviet university will understand my cultural shock ...

It is annoying that in 20 years there will be no one to shock ... These PUKs, together with their pupils, are striving for this ...

[nazar_0753]

The sphere of education CANNOT be in private hands, only under the state. management. The best solution is to close commercial universities and reduce paid places by 75 percent. Alternatively, you can leave commercial universities of certain companies, but oblige them to issue diplomas not of the state standard, but those in which you can get a job only in this very company. And then they themselves will leave the "education market", I assure you. Yes, the termination of paid education will significantly reduce the income of universities, and they will have to be subsidized by the state. But I still have the opinion that the costs of budgetary provision of universities will be much less losses due to poor-quality work performed by graduates of commercial educational institutions, their non-work by profession, and so on. The problem is that with such a radical, but necessary solution to the problem, the opportunity for our national game to "cut and roll" will be sharply reduced, which will affect the pockets of various "powers that be" from the relevant ministries, and other persons interested in preserving the current system. " education ". Therefore, apparently, this idea will not be implemented at least in the near future.

[parusnik]

Again "consultants" ... contributors ...

[Petrol]

if you do not cut this scum
then this scum will cut you out by analogy like ours!

[iliitchitch]

We will take out such spider bugs for a long time from under the skirting boards ... Well, you can't comb these lice carefully and methodically, well, after all, the enemies are obvious. Any state structure has a budget, the expenditure of which must be monitored by the state, and the "consulting services" of any bunches-shmukov must be examined under a magnifying glass. And it turns out: "Give me a lot of money, I'll pile a bunch of you in the hallway." ... And again the base is in London, that's where the gadyushnik is. Zadolbal a mess.

[koksalek]

You chop off one hydra head so the second grows. Feeding overseas owners crush Russia with might and main doing their will, where is this filthy broom that will sweep all this rubbish out of the hut? Not visibleoooooo (figuratively about the broom)

[Bobxnumx]

It is necessary to return to the Soviet system of education, with subsequent distribution to work with a three-year contract. The number of universities and humanities will immediately decrease. And advisers should be like Gerashchenko, Ivashov, Primakov.

[Aleksandr72]

Great idea! But, alas, impossible. Those who manage the education system behind the scenes will never allow this. If only because if Russia and its closest neighbors and allies again begin to train truly highly qualified specialists, who will be taught to think in the first place (you understand what I mean), it will become absolutely impossible to manage our production, economy, science and culture from the outside, directing development of these industries in the right direction (to our geopolitical rivals). When I studied at the law faculty of KSU at the beginning of the 90s (then there were still students who studied and teachers who taught) - we, along with old Soviet, new Russian and Kazakhstani textbooks, tried to pair us with translated American, with which we all teachers and students only laughed. I believe that now the situation in this regard has become much worse.
I have the honor.

[veksha50]

Quote: Bob0859

And advisers should be like Gerashchenko, Ivashov, Primakov.

Um ... One already died ... the second - in old age ...

PS That's all that goes to this - smart ones, with old hardening and wise brains, die, and the stupid husk remains to steer the state ...

[Aksakal_07]

The "philosophical" steamer once cleared Russia, taking over the "hillock" the main opponents of the "enraged boor", as the liberals then called the revolutionary slave-peasant masses. There is an urgent need to once again send all the liberals to Geyropa, it is possible even on a Boeing-737.
Without getting rid of the fifth column inside Russia, we cannot get out of the current problems.

[ImPerts]

And what can Westerners offer?
PWC at Yukos has already shown its price and integrity.
“Recently, my close friend, who works as a financial controller of projects in the Russian division of a Swiss company, told me over a beer how they are optimizing. The person in his position sees all the cash flows of the company Further - from his words.
1) The director went on a week-long business trip with an assistant in Switzerland to a meeting to reduce costs. The cost of a trip is 8000 Euro.
2) reduced five techies. Now no techie can get sick, because there is no one to replace him. In the event of downtime due to our fault, fines are colossal. We are already suing for 10 lyam rubles with the customer due to the fact that one techie simply does not have time to physically cope with the start-up of equipment at the facility on time.
3) canceled cookies in the office and coffee. I think this is right, because it’s scary to look at some fat basses; the abundance of freebie cookies did not work.
4) fired drivers and transferred them to an outsourcing company. As a result, we spend more on this in 1.3 times more than if the drivers were on staff and the cars were on balance.
5) from Switzerland sent a crisis manager for six months. The cost, taking into account the rental of an apartment, a car with a driver, insurance and other expenses, cost 1 200 000 rubles per month. And while the first two months they were looking for a suitable apartment, this poet from Switzerland lived in Marriott on Tverskaya in the room for 17 000 per day.
6) all these expenses were a heavy burden on the balance of the Russian representative office, the crisis manager ordered to raise prices for equipment, and also raised prices for the concluded contracts. As a result, part of the customers sent us nuku, and the other half of the customers sent us a message.
7) hired a new marketing manager, with a white salary of 180 000 rubles per month.
The circus is still going on, we'll see when the company announces its departure from Russia))) "
http://pikabu.ru/story/yekonomim_na_spichkakh_ili_optimizatsiya_porusski_3764595

Z. S. They just make money ...

[dvg79]

We in the trust have reduced to the point that there is no one to change our watch, and from the number of parasites in the office, our eyes are climbing.

[Svetovod]

I noticed this a long time ago. Head washing is hygienic, but for the whole country it leads to the fact that these washed ones, not understanding where they are taken from, want to be businessmen, lawyers, economists, managers, and other rubbish. Each of these types of activities, by its presence, indicates that the country has not established nicherta. The USSR was established, and there were not so many economists.

And foreign "friends-partners" probably understand that this layer of "worms" can be either useless for Russia (in the absence of employment), or harmful for Russia (with the active work of lawyers, economists, managers, etc.).

This layer of non-productive employees is called upon to serve the trade. But you can’t go far at one trade, and sail on it only towards the crisis. And production, in their opinion, is inefficient.

They equate themselves to the west and so love to travel to Egypt and Turkey, and rest there from Russia.

[Owl]

Kill education and medicine, a stupid and sick country is not an enemy, it is a slave. If the employees of the Russian government "create" on this principle, it means that they are the enemies of Russia and the mercenaries of the State Department. USA.

[Aksakal_07]

The "Bologna" education system creates only two-legged lapdogs (and mongrels), which are engaged in wagging their tails and looking into the eyes of the owner, waiting for him to throw a bone at them.

[Same lech]

Do they guarantee that such decisions do not run counter to the system of national security and Russian statehood itself?

Well, our Augean stables are still cleaned and cleaned ... the work is endless.

[veksha50]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Well, our Augean stables are still cleaned and cleaned ... the work is endless.

Every year the number of people who want to clean these stables is decreasing ... Unfortunately, our generation is not forever, and the young generation is being educated in the spirit of PUK ...

[Riv]

Correct article. If, for example, a technologist is needed in my place, then the young one cannot be taken. The consequences can be fatal both for the bloc and for the people. It's not even that the young doesn't know shit. Well, he did not read "Mumu", so maybe he learned "Kashtanka" by heart. All of us once did not know anything. The problem is that he has no idea of ​​responsibility and it is impossible to explain to him that he is responsible for the unit, and not the apparatchik and not the shift master. He will sit on a chair for his working hours and go home. He doesn't give a damn what's going on there. If something happened, he would be sincerely surprised: "What have I to do with it? They didn't tell me anything ..." Goonies, you should have said that and didn't say it. And you did not say, because you did not know. And I did not know, because you are ankle-deep, what is going on at the installation. And so you were taught at school and at the university.
And this booby wants a good salary ... In taxi drivers, fuck!

[gladcu2]

Riv

In the punishment cell and sopromat in the hands.

[cniza]

Quote: The same Lech

Do they guarantee that such decisions do not run counter to the system of national security and Russian statehood itself?

Well, our Augean stables are still cleaned and cleaned ... the work is endless.

They were cleaned a lot, what happened in 1992, when mass privatization was going on, this is not at all subject to any reasonable understanding. Remained, very well attached, students of consultants of the 90s and it is very difficult to deal with them - they are in power.

[CONTROL]

Quote: cniza

what happened in 1992, when mass privatization was going on, is not at all subject to any reasonable understanding.

Inspired (from memory, from the 90s ...):
Conversation on the "stock exchange":
- What do you sell?
-Iron!
- ???
- Well, that's it ... (trying to show with his hands).
-Draw on a piece of paper!
(draws on paper something like a channel ... and an I-beam ... and a corner ...)
- What profiles?
-?
- Well, rooms according to GOST - 16,18,20 ...
- I don’t know ... Yes, take it, the iron is good, new, not even rusty! ...
... Here is such a "qualified" conversation (I am not a customer ... overheard ...)

[rotmistr60]

Therefore, every day more than 2600 our professionals work in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Kazan, Novosibirsk, Rostov-on-Don, Krasnodar, Voronezh, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk and Vladikavkaz

How not to recall the Soviet era with nostalgia. Then, even in a nightmare, one could not dream that foreign "professionals" would be engaged in our education. Education according to Western patterns is already giving its full results - lack of elementary knowledge, contempt for patriotism, admiration for Western "values", etc. I don’t even want to think about what this will lead to. All the last ministers of education were the direct culprits in the destruction of young minds. And we continue the vicious practice of appointing people who clearly hate Russia to this position. Digging a hole for ourselves.

[CONTROL]

Quote: rotmistr60

Therefore, every day more than 2600 our professionals work in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Kazan, Novosibirsk, Rostov-on-Don, Krasnodar, Voronezh, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk and Vladikavkaz

How not to recall the Soviet era with nostalgia. Then, even in a nightmare, one could not dream that foreign "professionals" would be engaged in our education. ABOUT

Even worse: according to unofficial statistics (because the ban on publishing and in general sounding), a significant part of our domestic leaders - enterprises, universities, administrators of city, regional ... deputy ministers ... ministers ... and te te - at one time successfully! !! took courses and passed "exams" in Dianetics ... or Scientology ... or ... well, there are many names! (For reference, it is almost impossible to listen to, complete courses and pass exams in these forbidden totalitarian sects ... but to become a psychologically dependent "zombie" is a must)

[Tatar 174]

Often you have to communicate with graduates of a university, of a university alone and the same question arises all the time: What did they do there at this university all this time while studying ??? Maybe only by chance I get those graduates who cannot answer elementary questions? Even if so, then there are a lot of them suspiciously ... In general, it seems to me that so many universities today have simply become someone else's business projects and nothing more. There is a tremendous deception of both people and the state, it is necessary (again necessary!) To conduct an honest audit of all Russian universities and their affiliates and drastically reduce their number, and to establish secondary schools in their place. The question again arises: Where to get honest and incorruptible auditors ?!

[gladcu2]

Tatar174

If you are hiring a person, try to determine how they can learn quickly.

For example, a CNC operator can be trained for 2 weeks to 2 months.

[vladimirvn]

Our foundation of the 90s is so complicated.

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: Truth

The very sources, if I may say so, are destroyed - Vocational Education.

VVP speaks of "developing the concept of vocational education." Why develop there? Just kick the former tenants out of buildings and rediscover the heels. Then our welders will be able to cook, and bricklayers will be able to lay bricks. As a man who devoted many years after the army to construction, I am in shock. In a cultural, but I express myself extremely uncultured ...

[mr.vasilievich]

If education (and upbringing) is placed in the hands of foreign specialists and according to their methods, then do not expect a strong Russia. You see what the Western values ​​are. In addition, it is necessary not only to put a set of knowledge into the head, but first of all to teach THINK. And this pursuit of "crusts", titles and medals?

[pavel_SPB]

Well, if they are OK, then okay :)

If education (and upbringing) is given into the hands of foreign experts and their techniques

[Old26]

Quote: Bob0859

It is necessary to return to the Soviet system of education, with subsequent distribution to work with a three-year contract. The number of universities and humanities will immediately decrease. And advisers should be like Gerashchenko, Ivashov, Primakov.

It is not only necessary to switch (return) to the Soviet system of education with subsequent distribution, this will not work. It is necessary to completely rebuild not only the education system.
And the first and most important step is to remove the exam. It is from there that the whole root of evil, as it seems to me. Moreover, it is necessary in the educational system to take all the best that was in the USSR, to combine with the best that is now.
For example, I studied for 7 years in my time in Ukraine. The last class, the tenth studied already in the RSFSR. Maybe in Ukraine I would have finished with a medal (I never pursued this, but you yourself understand that when you study well, even excellently and all the time at the same school, there are chances for a medal). But this is not about that. In the new class for the year I did not lower my level of knowledge. Moreover, some teachers expressed some surprise at the level. And why? Yes, the thing is that in Ukraine, exams at school, starting from grade 5, EMNIP, were ANNUAL. That is, people from class to class were not transferred to machines. No, they probably would have crossed, but purely psychologically they understood that at the end of the year EXAM, and not one and even the inveterate losers and idlers understood this by some tenth sense ...
Why not make this compulsory in our schools?

Further. I absolutely agree with vocational education. Vocational schools and technical schools. Without them, one cannot prepare the very necessary link in production. Highly skilled workers, mid-level specialists (craftsmen)

Unambiguously reduce the number of universities and the number of paid places in universities. The main emphasis on budget places. Firstly, the number of phantom universities will disappear or be significantly reduced. Secondly, the enlargement of universities is not bad, when instead of three or four one appears, such as a federal university ...

It is necessary to remove the bias in the "production" of specialists, mainly of the humanitarian profile. Progress is driven mostly by techies.

But with the distribution of the issue is much more complicated. In the situation in the USSR, the state guaranteed at least not only work, but also housing to a young specialist. Now it is impossible. Well, it is probably possible to oblige employers to hire university graduates. And then how it turns out. The girl graduates from an university with an accounting profile. Age 23. And sometimes also a small child. She is trying to get a job, and she is told that yes, we need accountants under 25 to have adult children (not sitting on sick leave with a child) and with at least 5 years of experience in the specialty ...

But the system associated with graduate education, such as undergraduate, specialty and graduate, I think it would be possible to leave. The minus of the Soviet system in this regard was that under pressure (or on the recommendation) of the parents, the young man came to the university and after a year or two realized that it was not his. Left And as a result, there is no education. IMHO stepping could fix this problem

[ImPerts]

Quote: Old26

She is trying to get a job, and she is told that yes, we need an accountant up to 25 years old, so that there are adult children (not sitting on sick leave with a child) and with experience in the profession for at least 5 years ...

It depends on where you want to get settled. If in Gazprom or NK, then there will be requirements for the applicant.
And if in the BU, then because of the small salary and the minimum requirements)))

[gladcu2]

Old26

When a young man left the university, this is called an increase in knowledge.

The Soviet educational system is possible when the state capitalization is at least 75%. This applies to higher education. Capitalism is ideologically aimed at lowering producer income. Therefore, the industrialist cannot afford the cost of training. They want a ready-made specialist, the cost of training for which the state has incurred.

In Canada, this experience was decided so. Preschool education at the state level. subsidies. Disgusting. But at least some. School free, mediocre. But good progress towards improvement is noticeable. Criticism has taken action. In high school, there is a little load, which increases responsibility.

Higher education is partially paid. The state assumes payment and the more it sees the need for a particular area. For example, dentists and lawyers pay for everything in full. These are the most popular specialties in the private sector.

I can rate the level of higher education as not bad. Kids strain learning.

[astronom1973n]

Quote: Zoldat_A

We have already seen "consultants" in the 90s ... Gaidarushka pulled, the earth is glassy to him! 500 pests with American and English passports went to the Kremlin on special passes. At that time, a friend of his son served in the Kremlin urgently, he checked these passes ...

And as for the graduates ... It used to be universities where they taught. Engineers, teachers, doctors ... And now the university pretends to teach, and the students pretend to study. The university gets its money, the students get useless crusts. My wife told me that their head of the department, Doctor of Philology, had been studying Russian literature all her life, running into the department and tearing her hair out: "IT IS FUCKING !!!! They didn't read MUMA !!!" Speech, by the way, about future journalists, fourth year. One or two people come to my wife for a lecture from a group of 15 people - and those minutes are 1 minutes late and sit as sheep. She told the rector, and she told her: "What to do? Do not deduct! They pay money, they fill the university, we will release it somehow ..." Who studied at a Soviet university, that will understand my culture shock ...

It is so "lucky" that the house is located next to the hostels of the technical university I don’t know how students study, but until 5 in the morning they scream foolishly and listen to music (loud) until shit Veselukha !!!!! What kind of specialists will be? Figs knows him! But perfectly able to rest and disturb public order is a fact !!!

[dvg79]

Students in all ages behaved this way, he was guilty of his own, but earlier the school base and worldview made it possible to poorly master the program, plus those who openly went to school were simply excluded. We read a lot on their own, and not just fun, now they read less and less .

[xorgi]

All this is correct, BUT! Several years ago, they tried to close part of the universities, proposed a system, good or bad, but a system for assessing the quality of work of universities. What happened Parents of high school students were the first to howl: how Putin and the deputies themselves learned, and our children are not given the opportunity to get higher education, now it will only be a lordly privilege. And the idea was safely buried.
Second, for the authors of "brilliant" decisions to remove unnecessary universities: please calculate what will happen if a mass of unsettled youth appears, primarily with a level of crime and drug addiction? Further, the level of bribery in schools, universities and military registration and enlistment offices? Outflow of scientific specialists? Considering that Russia is waging two local conflicts and is under sanctions and informational pressure.
And for those who like the phrase "in Soviet times, a specialist left the university," do you know what national cadres are? This is when rams were collected from the surrounding villages and planted in the audience. Of these, the specialists turned out to be appropriate.

[dmb]

And when did this "howling of parents" frighten the authorities? But the income from this pseudo-education, and it is simpler to trade in diplomas in the first or fifth place after weapons, prostitution and drugs. Therefore, the idea of ​​liquidating pseudo-universities was buried. As for the lordly privilege, that's for sure. The overwhelming majority of children of a certain stratum receive a normal liberal arts education, the only exception, perhaps, is physics and mathematics, because there d..k immediately stands out from the general mass. For the sake of objectivity, it should be said that such a situation in education existed in the late USSR, but to a much lesser extent. Well, a remark about "rams". I know a lot of national cadres of the Soviet period, who are head and shoulders above the "true Russians" of the same time. And I will not even mention today.

[xorgi]

Stupidity. In the light of the current political situation, people are trying not to anger. Sometimes they noticed alleged statements in one direction or another, and then the government voices its position: this is how public opinion is monitored. As for the income from education - this is from the area of ​​your sore imagination, not so much there. And as for the national staff, I know it better than you, I have come across personally and repeatedly. Why can neither the Caucasian states nor the Central Asian still establish normal industry?

[gladcu2]

Dmb

Paid education carries the motto: "For your money, everything we want"

In the late USSR, the quality of knowledge requirements dropped due to the presence of students who were "pulled". Affected by the weight of their parents in society. However, such excesses are typical for all countries. Because they motivate everywhere.

But what about the education of the "elite"?

Duck how do you make him study?

[Old26]

Quote: xorgi

Do you know what national cadres are? This is when sheep from the surrounding villages were collected and planted in an audience. Of these, the specialists turned out to be appropriate.

They took oaks and let out linden, it seems so

[Belousov]

The Ministry of Education, as well as other ministries, cannot pursue an independent policy. There is one option - "if the stars are lit, then somebody needs it." The head of state cannot be unaware of the problems in the industry, but as we have repeatedly heard, Putin is completely satisfied with the activities of the government. So draw your conclusions. Foreign policy is certainly good and very necessary, despite the costs. But the internal one must also be dealt with, and in the interests of the country, and not of the "Western partners."

[gladcu2]

Belousov

I would not want to upset you. But the dependence of the Russian Federation on foreign policy is intuitively 50%.

If the reform is initiated in an administrative way, objective external side effects will appear. By quiet, the government is doing something. Just a must. Still, the military-industrial complex does not let loose.

You watched 3 episodes of an interview between Starikov and Glazyev. Although I called Glazyev a liberal, I probably went too far. So Glazyev noted how the Central Bank invested in American securities. It seems to me that this is not a mistake, it is part of the policy of the Russian Federation.
A dialogue with the Americans.

[ayuric]

But I’m thinking about the vicious circle of education and employment: do you come to a factory to get a job, is there a tower? no, we don’t take without a higher one, you don’t come with a tower, there’s no experience, we don’t take without experience where the experience comes from and where the tower comes from. In addition, the rams come from the tower, they can’t connect two wires, because there is a tower, the salary is higher by definition than mine, a techie. And management reports on the high level of education of workers.

[gladcu2]

ayuric

When employee requirements are overestimated, this is a way to bring down your salary.

Usually, as emigrants do. You say that you know how to do everything and you know everything and five years of experience. This demonstrates the enthusiasm for the employer, because he nevertheless knows what to expect from you.

But once you get to work, you have to give all the best 100%. And books and self-study. There will be no help and tips. Competition in the workplace excludes mutual assistance.

[uizik]

I wonder who is more fools or pests in Russia?

[Million]

The prestige of working professions must be raised, otherwise there is no one to work in the country

[ImPerts]

Prestige must be raised. You can return to the Soviet system when the worker received more engineering and technical assistance. A good friend of mine told me that while working as a foreman at a construction site, he received X rubles, and a slinger worker received 1,5 X. And he made fun of him because of such a difference. Moreover, the slinger worker received his 1,5 X, regardless of the place of work. Regardless, it is DSC or Gazprom.

[RoTTor]

A worker without engineers is a private without commanders and headquarters = 0, this is a cleaning sailor without a navigator and captain. Even John Silver of Treasure Island understood this.
And the payment should be appropriate.
When the USSR entered the world leaders in the 30s, engineers - PRODUCTION COMMANDERS were respected and respected.
Do not repeat. nonsense of Suslovian eeoluhs, due to which engineers and technicians became pariahs, and the country rolled back almost to the 3rd world

[ImPerts]

Quote: RoTTor

Worker without engineers - ordinary without commanders and staff = 0, this is a sailor-cleaner without a navigator and captain.

Watching whom you want to make more prestigious. After the collapse, bandits and girls of easy virtue were in fashion. Then bankers and pop singers. Then the officials and the hosts of the show ...

[Averias]

I have a friend, he is already over 60. He is a man brought up by the USSR. He is a very smart man, he is a scientist. But he, when he was the USSR, did not like the USSR. His slogan was: "I will not shake totalitarianism." For which he was registered with the KGB, under the supervision, so to speak. Although, acre of this slogan, nothing like that (anti ..... something there) did not do. And this orthodox and irreconcilable opponent of totalitarianism and diktat is telling me the other day. San (it's me), you will be surprised, but I want the return of the totalitarianism of the USSR. To my question - and why are you "pereobulsya"? He replied that comments on the tragedy with the plane in Egypt were the last "straw". And then he burst out, he threw it out about everything, about education (collapse), about technical education (collapse), industry, medicine, about eyewash in science, etc., etc. Sold out in earnest. I asked him, so what are you suggesting? Answers: Yes "to lower the iron curtain" because he sees no other way out. Easy said than done.

[Turkir]

I asked him, so what are you suggesting? Answers: Yes "to lower the iron curtain" because he sees no other way out.

I agree with the opinion of your friend. Some five to ten years to lower the curtain.
Not for everyone, stop the brain drain.

[gladcu2]

Averias

GDP, does not lower the "iron curtain". Since they have already jumped on this rake, albeit out of necessity. JV Stalin knew that there would be a world war, but there was no other way out.

GDP went the other way. He is trying to normalize the global cap system. Starting, it seems to me from the banking system. To avoid cyclical crises.
And accordingly, the contradictions between the systems. Although of course the USSR will return, but modernized and sustainable.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Averias

Answers: Yes "to lower the iron curtain" because he does not see any other way out

How was this your "scientist" - so he stayed.

[kagorta]

Again, the article is urya-patriotic. You forget that you are living under capitalism, that it was your deliberate choice, and this is the big audit trio (Ernst & Young, Deloitte & Touche, Price Waterhouse Coopers) and all investors in the world trust only it. Our auditors are only at the beginning of the journey. And if you want to attract their "damned capitalist" financing (and the country's leadership is dreaming about it), then the conclusion should be only theirs.
Tax planning under capitalism is a standard task, and even a simple stall owner does it. The only question is the degree of legality of these schemes. I, too, when working in an audit company, drew such schemes. And I do not think that the auditors of the Big Three drew, at least officially, that something was not legal. Their offices are 300 years old. And the name is expensive. For illegal schemes and their own minds are enough.
Discussions about the quality of education, such as all polymers, all nonsense. We pissed off the Soviet school, and in high school you always have to study yourself (I entered the university under the USSR, graduated from the Russian Federation). And then it all depended on your desire and discipline. And it should be noted that now you can get a more cool higher education and an excellent set of knowledge in the first place, thanks to distance education technologies. And in the damned West there is much to learn. At the same time, the PwC Academy (this abbreviation is universally recognized, not PUK) is one of the best in the country, which provides additional economic education. And I am an economist with great experience recommending it to anyone who wants to really achieve something in life, as an economist.

[nov_tech.vrn]

I especially like the term optimization, in modern economics theory, due to high education, now it is a synonym for the word reduction, or in project management, we invite you to work on a project, say 25 engineers and 70 skilled workers, but where to get them? and what kind of money should be offered so that qualified workers go for half a year, a year - not for permanent work?

[kagorta]

I have been working in project management for eight years. And I came to the conclusion that it is impossible to save on project personnel. And if I have a choice between a cheap employee and an expensive professional. I will always choose an expensive professional, because the terms of the project will not be delayed, I will hand it over on time, and this is one third of the matter.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: kagorta

You forget that you live under capitalism, that it was your conscious choice

How interesting...

It turns out that you happily accept that "conscious" choice, but oppose the new conscious choice to return the socialist system in every possible way?

[kagorta]

It was 91 years old. I was 16 years old, I sat with my father (lieutenant colonel) in a gash and watched TV with him. Which showed our bedlam. The German, realizing that we were Russians, asked what you would do. Father replied that if there was an order on tanks to Lamans tomorrow, then in a week we would be there.
And my conscious choice, both then and now, is that we need to get rid of Transcaucasia and Central Asia (make half-colonies out of them and pump out resources). And to preserve the Union of the Russian Federation, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine (our rulers thought they would want at any time and buy the whole of Ukraine, now they will have to pieces).
With the modern development of society, socialism is not possible. The mass consciousness should be too high. So for now, the Swedish model is suitable for me. Where the elite limits itself and tightens the bottom.

[Jackking]

Instead of cutting budget places, we need to cut our ministers - education, finance, economic development. All the same, they rely only on the cost of oil, that is, they are useless - and not only additional places can be created on their salaries, but a new university can be built ...

[Turkir]

PwC is an international network of consulting companies with headquarters in London and annual revenues of $ 30 billion. In Russia, a network of companies sees its interest in literally all areas of activity, including medicine, construction and education. Back in the 90s, PwC began advising not only individual business areas, but also entire federal ministries of the Russian Federation.

A disturbing article. The problem is outlined for sure.
Will brain drain continue?
----
Until now, we use the "intellectual capital" created in the USSR.
There is no new, scientific intelligentsia.

[Lena Alena]

And this capital, alas, is melting every year.

[Palach]

I have long been wary of graduates of institutes.
Once I came to such a job in a computer company as a techie, I had to interview him to find out the level of technical literacy.
When he called the system unit processor, I precipitated.
Here's a "specialist" released.

[35lisment35]

The article is silent about auditing British-American companies, which are located in absolutely ALL ministries and departments

[Redman]

Anything that you do not take rests against the government. The rest only execute THEIR decisions. The government was formed by the United Russia party (Western political technologists probably came up with the name. It's easier to fool the people this way!).

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Redman

The government is formed by the party `` United Russia ''

What country do you live in?

Constitution of the Russian Federation, Article 83

President of Russian Federation:
a) appoint, with the consent of the State Duma, the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation;
b) has the right to chair meetings of the Government of the Russian Federation;
c) decide on the resignation of the Government of the Russian Federation;
e) at the suggestion of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, appoints and dismisses the deputies of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, federal ministers;

[Vladimir 1964]

Graduates of the university, with whom PUK cooperates: businessman Mikhail Prokhorov, Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation Anton Siluanov, ex-chairman of the Central Bank Viktor Gerashchenko. As you can see, PwC is, on whom to rely in today's activities "for the benefit of the Russian State" and thanks to whom to keep close to the ministerial offices ...

Here, Dear colleagues, the beginning of the secret lists of the fifth column, so many copies were broken in the fight against it, and by and large it seems to me that one of the "needles of the immortality of the koshchei" destroying our country with reforms similar to the reform of education, it is quite likely that it is in the "egg" this very "Price Waterhouse Coopers". Which, by the way, as the author writes, feels quite comfortable in the "state organism" of Russia. It is necessary to explain to the GDP that the Minister of Education of our country takes an active part in the destruction of this very formation, under the guise of a LADY, and tell about this very "PUK", and the same enemies probably hide such a secret secret from the Tsar.

[dvg79]

If the universities are to be reduced, then only commercial ones, it is necessary to revive vocational education, the rest of which are achieved at an accelerated pace. What can I say if we have not only alien planes but also pilots.

[yuriy55]

What can I say, we also have fake pilots:
http://newdaynews.ru/automobile/483365.html

[RoTTor]

In the USSR, education was state policy, now it’s a muddy business selling diplomas to undergraduates.
The culprits of this .... sooner or later fall under the knife of such a Herurg ...

[Belousov]

The culprits of this sabotage for surgeons in Israel ride.

[Belousov]

The culprits of this sabotage for surgeons in Israel ride.

[Belousov]

We had a very strong education system, and then they began to destroy it to please the "partners". Remember the outflow of scientists after the collapse of the Soviet Union? Because our scientists and specialists were at the highest level. Then they smashed all the education, replacing it with blunt cramming in the form of the USE. Soviet education taught people to think, think, and not just repeat like a mantra behind a TV picture. As a result, modern Russian scientists over the hill are not needed by anyone, and not at all because they have created luxurious conditions here, but because they are not banally called. So all these Sorov textbooks should be thrown out, all these substitutions of concepts such as replacing the Tatar-Mongol yoke with a simple Mongolian one should be thrown away (otherwise, so soon, to please national minorities, we will reach the fact that Ermolov went to bow to Shamil the dog) and restore the Soviet education system. But while the Medvedev-Ulyukaev-Naibiullin citizens are in power, this will not happen. And since Putin does not want to change them, it means ... As the saying goes on, think for yourself who benefits from such a decadent state of the country ...

[TVM - 75]

In Togliatti, in every gateway of the academy and universities. In the iPhone, I opened the card and felt uneasy. I went to two academies, which is nearby. Each has one audience and a ticket office. Get a specialist country! And so all over the country. I do not think we are an exception.

[tank64rus]

This "organization" must run as a foreign agent. Agents of influence are found in all ministries and departments. And I think who is destroying education so purposefully. And the roots are in the State Department. By the way, how is the repair of Aurora in St. Petersburg going?

[Olegater]

The Ministry of Education decided to take the path of the lowest mental costs and began to correct the situation by the method of banal reduction in the number of budget places in universities - they say, this way it will be possible to get rid of a large number of hunters for a university diploma. Well, who after these programs is Lebanon. Educated people are a problem for the authorities. People, in their opinion, should be like livestock, which is easy to manage. We are wondering if the government makes cattle out of us, then is our government ?????

[Rich-ksy]

A generation of zero.

I have a personal assistant at work, a girl Nastya, a Muscovite, 22 years old, studying in the last year of law school. Asks me a question:

- Oh, and in fig the subway is so deeply built? Inconvenient and hard!
- Well, you see, Nastya, the Moscow metro initially had a dual purpose. It was planned to be used both as urban transport and as a bomb shelter.
Nastyusha grinned incredulously:
- Bomb shelter? What a stupid thing! What, is someone going to bomb us?
- I'll tell you more, Moscow has already been bombed.
- Who ?!
“Well ... Um, hmm,” the Germans bombed Moscow. During the war. Their planes flew in and dropped bombs.
- What for!? Did they want to destroy us ?!
- Well it is more like Yes…
- Here are the bastards !!!
- Well, well then!
- And what, all the people were hiding from the bombing in the subway?
- Well, not all ... But many. Someone spent the night here, and someone was constantly there.
“And the bombs didn’t hit the subway?”
- No.
“Why did they drop bombs then?”
- Do not understand…
“Well, I mean, instead of throwing bombs to no purpose, they would go down the subway and shoot everyone.”
- Nastya, well, they are Germans! They did not have our metro cards. And there, at the top, turnstiles, grandmothers on duty and cops. They weren’t allowed here simply!
- Ahhhhh. Well, yes, I see.
- Nastya, I was joking! In fact, the Germans stopped ours on the approaches to Moscow and did not allow them to enter the city.
- Well done, yes?
- Yeah, - I say, - really handsome !!!
- But how did people live here in the subway?
- Well, not very, of course, good. Wooden bunks hammered together and slept on them. Naras even stood on rails.
“I don’t understand,” Nastya snapped, “but how did the trains go then?”
- Well, the bombing was mainly at night, and people slept on the rails, and during the day the bunks could be removed and the trains started up again.
- A nightmare! Well then, they’re completely crazy, to bomb at night! - indignant Nastya. - It's loud! How to sleep? !!
- Well, these are Germans, Nastya, but we have a time difference with them.
- Then it is clear.

On my way back, I tried not to touch upon any serious topics in the conversation. But, nevertheless, again ran into.

“I want to go to the Baltic on my next vacation,” Nastya dreamed.
- But where exactly?
- Well, somewhere to the sea ...
- So to Lithuania, Estonia or Latvia? - I clarify the question.
- ??????????????
- Well, it is believed that three countries are included in the Baltic states: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia. Which of them did you want to go to?
- Class! And I thought it was one country - the Baltic states! I'm where the sea is.
- In all three there are.
- Darn! Here's how to choose now?
- Well I do not know…
- Have you been to the Baltic states?
- It was. In Estonia.
- So how is it? Is it troublesome to get a visa?
- I was there under the Soviet Union. Then we were one country.
- How is it “one country" ?!
- The entire Baltic states were part of the USSR! Nastya, didn’t you know that ?!
- Stunned!
- Now you are all awesome! Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova also belonged to the USSR. And also Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. And also Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia!
- Georgia !? Are these the ones that the war was with ?!
“They are the most.” Well, you know what the USSR was, which then fell apart? You were still born in it!
- Yes I know. There was some kind of USSR. Then fell apart. Well, I didn’t know that so much land had fallen from him ...
I rode the subway and looked at the people around. Lots of young faces. All of them are ten to twelve younger than me. Are they all the same as Nastya ?! Zero generation. Perfect vegetables ...

[Greenwood]

Well, judge for yourselves, why should she know about some Germans there, about some Soviet Socialist Republic, oh, the USSR (how many beeches). Her whole life (not counting work) is spent hanging out with friends in fashion boutiques, endless selfies, likes in VKontakte, photos on Instagram, and pulling money out of her boyfriend (if he certainly is). She is a typical representative of a consumer society.

We used to love to make fun of the Americans for their small horizons, limited thinking and unwillingness to develop and learn something new about the world around us, especially outside of America. Only now we ourselves at such a pace will soon come to the same results.

[16112014nk]

If this girl Nastya is 22 years old, then she was born not in the USSR, but in Russia. Well, if all this is true, then this is complete Arctic fox.It is rightly said that the generation of the 90s is a lost generation.

[dvg79]

Scary, really scary.

[yuriy55]

Field notes:
We expect great professionals from medical academies, BUT we watch "Interns" with vividness and go to be treated by domestic specialists, in contrast to those who look at us from above and travel abroad for treatment ...

Every year we welcome new teachers who should bring knowledge to the Russian masses of children, BUT those who look at us from above send their children to study abroad ...

We live, work and die in our land BUT those at whose enterprises we work, for the most part, prefer ...

[veksha50]

"Graduates of the university with which PUK cooperates: businessman Mikhail Prokhorov, RF Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov, ex-chairman of the Central Bank Viktor Gerashchenko" ...

Hmm ... BUNK ... And it's not even funny ...

Why adopt different laws on NGOs, when there was a lot of nasty things, and there is still ... Moreover, the "fosterlings" occupy key positions in the government and economy of the country ...

We’ll mess up now, swear, and the matter, as I think, will not be decided ... Ugh !!!

[chunga-changa]

For twenty-five years, everyone, at all corners, has been shouting - the world's best education system is being destroyed, and citizens are still amazed - "And who did this, maybe there is some kind of cunning Plaan in this." Citizens, while you are busy analyzing the sorts of cunning plans, enemies have done and are doing it, from outside and from within the state. Is this clear?

[Toyvo]

A letter about how an adult 45-year-old man with two higher educations ... decided to pass the exam in Russian.

“Hello, Nikolai Viktorovich.
Without a long introduction - by age I’m the same age as you, I have two higher educations. So I decided to try to pass the exam. Why - now we are not discussing, the need arose. I did not hurry, I decided to do it, having prepared. On the Internet I found a local economic and legal institute, which opened its doors to comers. I was alone in groups in Russian and physics. But I turned a blind eye to this and came to take a test test in Russian. Errors and contradictions in the tasks themselves immediately caught my eye. For example, in the answers it is required not to use spaces and commas, and then on the 20th task it is said “write such and such words through a comma”. In one task there were two right answers at once (a fused particle is NOT in a few words), but one was required. One more thing - there was no right answer at all. In one task, I made a mistake, but this is only from the point of view of the compiler, but in fact I answered correctly.

In the second part of the task, in the analysis of the text it was required to indicate which sentences are the description, reasoning, parcel * ... I tripped over this "parcel" and asked the assistant what it was. The answer was immediate: “We do not know! You yourself must know this! ” The text, by the way, was from the history of Russia ... about the unsuccessful campaign of Peter the Great when he was surrounded by the Swedes led by King Karl (So in the text of the letter. Most likely, the Battle of Narva is meant when Peter was not surrounded, but the Russians suffered defeat, or the Prut campaign? But then the Turks surrounded our army, among whom was the “king” and the Swedish king N.S.). I wrote a short essay, I decided not to rack my brains, because the test is a trial one. I thought we’ll see what the complaints would be.

And here is the next lesson. The teacher of 50-55 years behaved in a boorish way, but that’s not the point. While she chatted on the phone for 45 minutes, I read her listing of my exam scores and was sweating with horror. On three pages there was a huge table with which the examiner evaluated my work. And what was there just! My humble essay, in which I could only identify the only problem, the question of the “Russian national spirit,” was empty by these estimates. In a tiny historical passage, it turns out I had to consider seven (!) Problematic issues and a dozen topics. My essay was evaluated by criteria such as “maturity of judgment” and “persuasiveness of position”. In total, I can’t remember now, and the teacher refused to give me that big printout. I asked, what clever man makes such tests. She said that it comes from Moscow, namely from Moscow State University. Then he asked another question: “What is parcellation?”. This question greatly interested me. The teacher became angry at this and abruptly changed the subject.

In the end, I decided not to go on such preparation anymore. Not only did we not make out any of my mistakes, so the teacher began to aggressively press me, saying that I did not see the plan. I calmly asked - what are you talking about? That fragment (text), the battle of the Russians against the Swedes, or my composition? She screeched at this, shouting, “Do I know what a paragraph is?” I have the opinion that the teachers themselves, who are engaged in this exam, have already become mentally abnormal. If I were a schoolboy, I would not just not pass the exam, I would simply not understand half the tasks!

Is it time to pay attention to this exam? This is no longer just brain mutilation. This is insanity. Request (from somewhere, I don’t know), for example, a couple of tests in the Russian language and a matrix for analyzing the answers. You will be horrified. And no one can do anything about this ?! ”

continued: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/59684

[NordUral]

This is not insanity, but the planned and malicious numbness of the young with the aim of killing Russia.

[xorgi]

The first one. How old is this text?
The second one. Regarding the assessment of the answer: such a detailed plan, the teacher must give (or present) for each answer, in each lesson, even if it is one line or one example. Naturally, a brief analysis of the answer is most often used, but for exams or open events full options are used.

[veksha50]

Quote: Toyvo

I stumbled over this "Parcel" and asked the assistant what it is

Um ... I also have two higher educations ... But I saw this word, heard, read it for the first time today ...

I became interested ... I climbed into the Internet ... I found ... I read ... I still swear ...

Read for yourself: "Parcellation is a construct of expressive syntax, which is a deliberate dismemberment of a text related intonation and writing into several punctuation independent segments (in the terminology of the Swiss linguist Charles Bally - dislocation), for example:" Jeans, a tweed jacket and a nice shirt. Very good. My favorite! White. Ordinary white shirt. But favorite. I put it on ... and went to meet Max "(Evgeny Grishkovets).

An indicator of the syntactic gap is a point (or another sign of the end of a sentence), which leads to an increase in the frequency of use of a point, and with visual perception of a text, to its intonation.

The parcel construction has a two-part structure - the base part and the parcels.

A parcel is a part of a structure that is formed as a result of the dismemberment of a simple or complex sentence and depends (grammatically and semantically) on the previous context, while having specific structural features. "...

Wouldn’t it be easier to say the old: SYNTAXIS ???

And, frankly, on ... not only me, but many, do you need this ???

[16112014nk]

Quote: SibSlavRus

landmarks of the creator citizen

Predecessor mr Livanova Mr Fursenko said that his task was to "raise a qualified consumer instead of a creator." He fulfilled his part, Livanov continues. Consumerism is flourishing under his leadership.

[NordUral]

Why are weird? It’s just that liberal consultants tell the liberals in power how to finish education in Russia more efficiently and quickly.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: NordUral

It’s just that liberal consultants tell the liberals in power how to finish education in Russia more efficiently and quickly.

[NIKNN]

Over the past few years, there has been a debate that there is a clear overabundance of universities and students in Russia. By the number of students in higher educational institutions, our country takes first place in the world, however, given the qualifications of most modern graduates and the more than obvious bias of universities in the specializations of a humanitarian and environmental character, this first place clearly does not look like an achievement.

You can’t say better. Thanks to the author for a good article and you will read the comments. We understand all the damn.

[Russian_German]

Quote: igor.borov775

And as always, we have sanctions, and we cannot with them. Listening to some experts on TV that crowds in government circles, plus ministers do not give reasons for accelerated growth. And the main thing that I endured listening to them, they say it’s not time yet

I agree, these untermenschen sincerely believe that the Russians are not capable of anything! But the question is, what would have happened if there were no West? Do we need to go straight to the grave, since we are not capable of anything without the West. The other is funny and sad. Even Stalin with 4 classes of a parish school managed to make Russia a great power. And these, all without exception with "higher education", purkah like blind kittens. All the groundwork that we use from the 60s, 70s, 80s of the last century, because in the 90s we were in full operation, and the time for development in the 2000s has not yet come, and were there any? And now they, which have proven their effectiveness over the years, at the behest of the State Department, began to be considered obsolete. It is like considering physics obsolete and rewriting it again at the direction of the State Department.

[Governor]

Getting up from your knees is a sweet tale for the stupid population of Russia. Everything in the West was under control, is and will be.
Well, we don’t forget that Putin has done well, and foreign policy is simply a miracle.

[_GSVG_]

if only he could remember how Vissarionitch acted with pests, but do the mildest.

[Uncle Joe]

In this regard, the question is: and those ministries, including the Ministry of Education and Science, which still receive consultations through PwC and similar networks, can guarantee independent decision-making?

Counter-question: ministries, including the Ministry of Education and Science, which still receive consultations through PwC and similar networks, do they themselves exist outside the state permit system?

[samarin1969]

Strange article...What does the international audit firm PwC have to do with it?...There are about four such companies in the world. Their task is to give an independent (they don’t trust their accountants!) assessment of the state of finances, business, property... PwC services are very expensive and are usually used to obtain money (loan from a bank, financing from the budget)... Of course, these are expensive crooks-shamans in the world of finance, which, among other things, slept through the global crisis of 2007-2008...

It’s not clear, but what does education in Russia have to do with it?

[ars_pro]

Greetings! A very sore topic was raised for me personally, since while still at school I didn’t really understand, but I felt that they were spewing crap in most cases, which contributed to the godless non-attendance of classes, but then fate led me to a pedagogical university, where I came into close contact with the education system, and the problem education is mainly not even in the system itself (each institution has its own specifics), but in the quality of the material and the seriousness of the approach to teaching. The problem of specialists is currently also not at its best, for example, out of 100 graduates of a decent university, only 25% will be able to work in their specialty (taking into account the conditions and saturation of the labor market), therefore seeing all the prospects for their future existence (this applies to many humanitarian professions) , a young, bright-eyed student usually has all his illusions about the level of education and the demand for a particular profession shattered already in his third year

[slaventi]

Consulting companies as an element of external management of Russia

[Shtyn dwarf]

Guys, you are completely off topic! KPMG, Deloitte and Touche, Price Waterhouse Coopers, McKenzie, Oliver Wyman - this is an incomplete list of American consulting companies that oversee ALL our ministries! Including our Ministry of Construction has as many as 4 (!) American consulting firms! The Central Bank of the Russian Federation supervises Oliver Wyman. Every year our ministries announce tenders for the provision of consulting services, and every year American companies win due to the fact that only they meet the conditions of the tender. The conditions in the tender are in particular based on Art. 15. Part 4 of the Constitution (read it - there are 3 sentences). And what’s most surprising is that this is in the context of virtually direct confrontation with the United States! The Russian media don’t talk about this at all - it’s a strict taboo. Occasionally information appears on the Internet, but it is seen by 1% of our citizens - who already know about it. And this is how it has been since 91.
Here is just a small proof (http://izvestia.ru/news/576076):
The Bank of Russia has begun developing a new risk management system. This follows from order No. R-601, which was signed by the Chairman of the Central Bank, Elvira Nabiullina (available to Izvestia). According to the document, the system will be developed with the involvement of the Russian representative office of the American company Oliver Wyman. The heads of all divisions of the regulator are obliged, according to the order, provide within three days all information requested by American consultants, as well as ensure interviews with Central Bank employees to assess the existing risk management system in the Bank of Russia. As the press service of the Central Bank explained to Izvestia, the need to change the risk management model is due to changes in the global economy and the Russian economy.

[_GSVG_]

A minobraz is a minobraz, a stupid animal with a collective mosk and a lack of intelligence, as usual.