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Media: "NATO has already lost to Russia"

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NATO was taken aback by the new capabilities of the Russian armed forces, writes The Huffington Post and gives the 4 signs that indicate that the alliance "has already lost to Russia in an arms race."




“Firstly, Russia is capable of suddenly starting large-scale exercises with the participation of tens of thousands of military. NATO countries need two years of training for such maneuvers, ” RIA News opinion of the author.

For the teachings of Trident Juncture-2015, which are held in Spain, NATO has been preparing for several years. Russia also conducts such maneuvers regularly.

“Secondly, the Russian army has new technical capabilities that came as a surprise to NATO,” the newspaper writes. As an example, it cites launches of Russian cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea against targets in Syria.

“These missiles could also threaten Berlin if such ships reached the Mediterranean Sea,” the author quotes Hans Domrese, commander of NATO forces.

“Thirdly,” writes the publication, “NATO has internal differences, since the interests of the alliance’s 28 countries are too different. Some demand protection from Islamist terror, others state the need to strengthen the eastern borders. ”

The disunity of the alliance is “a huge military deficiency,” an unnamed representative told NATO. “Russians act more resolutely, flexibly and harmoniously. We should definitely work on this, ”he added.

“Fourth, NATO recognizes that in some regions it can no longer confront Russia,” writes The Huffington Post. The same Domreuse, for example, said recently that "Russia has the potential to close access to NATO for the allies in some regions."

This situation is very worried about the Alliance Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. “We need to be sure that we are able to bypass this potential, so that if necessary we can strengthen, deploy and deploy troops,” he said.
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 6 November 2015 10: 11
    +26
    It was smooth, but on paper, they forgot about the ravines.. The proverb is the most on this topic.
    Media: "NATO has already lost to Russia"
    Sounds like an attempt to confuse your head and weaken your attention. God grant that the Russian leadership would not read such "media".
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 6 November 2015 10: 13
      +14
      I think Russia still has a lot of "surprises" for our "partners"! We warned, don't make us angry!
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 6 November 2015 10: 19
        +2
        NATO was taken aback

        "-... and if you were ready for anything, even for the fact that you might be taken" by surprise ", then tell me, Seryozha, why were you" taken by surprise "?
        -I thought...
        What do you think, Seryozha?
        -Heads!
        -In that place you have .opa! "
        (roughly, in memory, but in essence - Mikhalkov's dialogue with subordinate refuse, film "Zhmurki")
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 6 November 2015 10: 51
          +6
          Well, here you should distinguish between the concepts of EuroNATO and the United States.
          In the article, as I understand it, we are talking about the possible superiority of the RF Armed Forces over EuroNATO. That is, today Russia is capable of (theoretically) capturing Europe. And the point here is not that Europeans are bad warriors, but that the average European’s psychological consciousness is not stable.

          I.e.
          If Russia suppose, it captures the Baltic states. In this case, a preventive measure against a probable invasion of the territory of R.F.
          How many European countries do you think will want to lay bones for democracy in the Baltic states?

          The Europeans throughout their centuries-old history, always took the side of the strong, and tried to agree with him rather than fight. The demonstration of power on one of the alliance members deprives motivation to wage a war of a whole chain of participants.
          1. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 6 November 2015 12: 36
            +4
            Our advantage lies precisely in the fact that we do not need to capture anyone. Who needs to come themselves laughing And on our territory, we can’t take us, well, no matter how ... At the same time, we can still get pointwise very far from this very territory, well, this is to the extreme. NATO's strategic impasse, what's next? Expand? But potential members are homeless, thieves and drunk! Do not want. So it remains to sit and be afraid, well, let them sit. And there is something to be afraid of, especially to the citizens of those countries whose governments are pulling American nuclear weapons to themselves.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 6 November 2015 10: 14
      +24
      They started talking about the "Caliber", but NATO members have already started to forget about the "Iskander", but in vain.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 6 November 2015 12: 55
        +3
        So it’s not the NATO members who wrote this article, but the journalists.Judge by their deeds.The rhetoric of NATO officials is extremely harsh and backed up by concrete deeds. Measures to transfer troops to Eastern Europe are proceeding as planned. A powerful, ramified structure is being created capable of accepting a large number of infantry, heavy weapons and aircraft in case of escalation. And in Syria they behave impudently and in a businesslike way. We are negotiating with our pilots about the division of zones of influence, training and armament of local field detachments. Now they are starting to pull together aviation. Our senior political leadership and the General Staff have to respond to all these aggressive actions. And as far as possible. We are stretching the front.
    3. Finches
      Finches 6 November 2015 10: 19
      +6
      "A-aa! The Russians are coming!"
      They created a clumsy and uncontrollable monster! Of the 28 members, 26 think that they will be protected, if others, that’s why the armies are so-so black holes to launder the budget, and not combat-ready armed forces! Defense Ministers are pregnant women, with a level of understanding:"So, the flag goes to the museum, the boy goes to class!" laughing
      1. Wolka
        Wolka 6 November 2015 11: 12
        +2
        everything is correct, by analogy, as the house-keepers and the bear cubs say, the more locks, the easier it is to open, because each subsequent lock is imprisoned under the previous one in the hope that it will not open ...
      2. 34 region
        34 region 6 November 2015 12: 24
        0
        Why should they defend themselves? They were hammered into the heads of tolerance, tolerance. And then suddenly defend yourself! I'm afraid they have a pattern gap in their heads. Tolerate or defend (attack)?
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 7 November 2015 01: 51
          0
          Quote: Region 34
          Why should they defend themselves? They were hammered into the heads of tolerance, tolerance


          Hooray! We are defeated!
          Welcome to our city, winners!
          Hearts are open to you.
          Would you like to learn French love?
          You were brave in battle.
          And do not save today in front of the skirts.
          Go brave eagles!
          We are pleased to become submissive doves.

          Politeness is our valor!
          Obedience is our courage.
          Credibility is our banner.
          We are yours by right of war.

          How much money do you want
          How many girls do you want.
          France is all in front of you.
          Hooray! We are defeated!

          Hooray! There is a victory hour.
          Husbands defeated, lovers shot.
          There are no men except you.
          And we will fulfill everything that will be ordered by you.
          The war is over for us.
          Our women dance to your music.
          Hooray! The whole country is dancing.
          We are wonderful, we are nicely provided.

          Politeness is our valor!
          Obedience is our courage.
          Credibility is our banner.
          We are yours by right of war.
          How much money do you want
          How many girls do you want.
          France is all in front of you.
          Hooray! We are defeated!

          (Song from the movie "Rouen Maiden nicknamed Pyshka", 1989)
    4. dr.Bo
      dr.Bo 6 November 2015 10: 25
      +6
      Quote: Vladimir
      Sounds like trying to get your head down and trying to weaken your attention. God grant that the Russian leadership would not read such "media".

      You wrote my thought to the word. I absolutely agree with you. I’ll also add from myself that the heights achieved in armament and re-equipment of the army, now it is necessary to keep or support ALWAYS. (A very difficult task, feasible only to a great power!) And well done Rogozin wholeheartedly wish him success in serving Russia.
    5. Tor5
      Tor5 6 November 2015 10: 29
      +2
      If we literally translate the last phrase of the article, we get the bottom line: "Give me money, and as much as possible!"
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 6 November 2015 18: 22
        0
        Quote: Tor5
        If we literally translate the last phrase of the article, we get the bottom line: "Give me money, and as much as possible!"

        So this is the whole point of what is happening
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 7 November 2015 02: 13
          0
          Then too:
          "The slave calls his buyer a slave owner!" wink

          So what? As there in the book of the parables of Solomon, ch. 30, art. 21-23: "From three the earth shakes, four it cannot bear: slave when he becomes king; foolish when he eats his bread; a shameful woman when she marries, and a maidservant when she takes the place of her mistress. "
    6. Vend
      Vend 6 November 2015 10: 32
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir
      It was smooth, but on paper, they forgot about the ravines.. The proverb is the most on this topic.
      Media: "NATO has already lost to Russia"
      Sounds like an attempt to confuse your head and weaken your attention. God grant that the Russian leadership would not read such "media".

      It reads and analyzes, moreover, draws conclusions by checking the data of intelligence services. NATO is a corpse that it’s time to bury and forget. But NATO members themselves must do this. When it comes to this, it is unknown.
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 6 November 2015 11: 36
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        NATO is a corpse that it’s time to bury and forget. But NATO members themselves must do this. When it comes to this, it is unknown.

        I do not agree with you, colleague. NATO is most likely a wounded beast that can do many terrible things in anger. The date of the funeral is not yet visible. hi
    7. g1v2
      g1v2 6 November 2015 10: 32
      +2
      The plans for the rearmament of the army have been drawn up for a long time and the reading of laudatory reviews in the media will not affect them. Basically, only 2 factors influence it - import substitution, they have to adjust the state order due to the availability of foreign (primarily Ukrainian) components and finances - the budget is not rubber, and import substitution and constant training cost money.
    8. or
      or 6 November 2015 10: 52
      -1
      Do not forget who our president worked during the years of his military youth.
  2. avvg
    avvg 6 November 2015 10: 12
    +3
    In my opinion, everyone wants money to increase in the NATO treasury.
  3. Magic archer
    Magic archer 6 November 2015 10: 13
    +4
    Well, what about the "legendary" Baldon warriors? !! ​​They constantly conduct exercises and all threaten to strengthen their super armies! Estonians, for example, are going to buy several Leo 2 from the Dutch! What are the alarmists in NATO))))
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 November 2015 10: 16
    0
    Zdelali, squealed!
    Nulandsha, it would be better not to go to work. Now it is definitely skewed to the end of her days!
    And there is only one left of them! bully
  5. not Russian
    not Russian 6 November 2015 10: 18
    +2
    NATO has one hope for the Baltic states, hehe
  6. roskot
    roskot 6 November 2015 10: 18
    +2
    There was nothing to collect such a coder. And now feed, arm and react with money to every peep of your shallow partners.
  7. Denis DV
    Denis DV 6 November 2015 10: 19
    0
    Is the Hitler Youth out of breath?
    1. Denis DV
      Denis DV 6 November 2015 14: 05
      0
      Minus as a statement that NATO is not a Hitler Youth? Or as a statement that NATO is not running out of steam?
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 November 2015 10: 20
    0
    Russia is capable of suddenly starting large-scale exercises involving tens of thousands of military personnel. NATO countries require two years of preparation for such maneuvers

    If this is true, it is very strange that NATO is still capable of carrying out some operations. After all, there are situations when immediate decision-making and the use of force are necessary.
  9. NordUral
    NordUral 6 November 2015 10: 21
    +6
    But to think that you can live in peace does not occur to you?
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 6 November 2015 10: 48
      +3
      Quote: NordUral
      But to think that you can live in peace does not occur to you?

      And what do you think: why capitalism, if you can’t rob?
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 6 November 2015 11: 13
      0
      Before asking your question, you also didn’t think, but what should they think? After all, instead of their heads they have a hanger for a hat, otherwise their leader would be the one. who contributes more to the general cashier. And now the EU seems to be on the verge of collapse. England is going to leave the EU again. Or did Cameron choose this method of pressure?
  10. iov
    iov 6 November 2015 10: 22
    0
    eh, to dissolve them already voluntarily-forcibly))))
  11. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 November 2015 10: 23
    +2
    Of course, I apologize, but do they really think
    that we will fight with conventional weapons?
    Yes, there on the second or third day local use of nuclear weapons will begin.
    It is clear that we will get it, but we can simply forget about Europe.
    1. Army soldier2
      Army soldier2 6 November 2015 11: 15
      +1
      It was somehow alarming in my soul lately. The foes throw in foes, they want to increase military budgets. And then Marshal Taburetkin was removed ...
      But, now I am calm. There is Marshal Zomanus!
      I have served in the General Staff for the last 10 years. We don’t know each other, colleague?
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  13. Riv
    Riv 6 November 2015 10: 28
    +6
    Some kind of muddy article. I'm not sure that NATO generals are recruited from advertisements on posts. "If the Russian ships go out to the Mediterranean, their missiles could threaten Berlin." Well, the general cannot fail to understand a simple thing: small ships can go out into Lake Ladoga, and from there they can not shoot across Berlin or some Paris. How many rivers are there in Russia? Try to distinguish the launcher from the bulk barge from space. And if (SUDDENLY !!!) the same launcher is mounted on a railway platform, then it can even be driven into the territory of Latvia (the loot will solve the issue with the customs) and shy away from NATO territory. Surprise? Surprise...
    1. dukalis
      dukalis 6 November 2015 10: 39
      +1
      Quote: Riv
      Some kind of muddy article. I'm not sure that NATO generals are recruited from advertisements on posts. "If the Russian ships go out to the Mediterranean, their missiles could threaten Berlin." Well, the general cannot fail to understand a simple thing: small ships can go out into Lake Ladoga, and from there they can not shoot across Berlin or some Paris. How many rivers are there in Russia? Try to distinguish the launcher from the bulk barge from space. And if (SUDDENLY !!!) the same launcher is mounted on a railway platform, then it can even be driven into the territory of Latvia (the loot will solve the issue with the customs) and shy away from NATO territory. Surprise? Surprise...

      Well, shaw trifles immediately from the lawn in front of the headquarters and shandarahnut hotel!))
    2. FIREMAN
      FIREMAN 6 November 2015 10: 53
      +7
      And if somewhere on the highway in Belarus, a sea container installed on a truck ... the container turns into an elegant ... missile system "Club-K"
      Agat Concern
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 6 November 2015 13: 26
        +2
        And sends sexy greetings from two charming cameramen? hi
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  14. Turkir
    Turkir 6 November 2015 10: 33
    +3
    NATO's primary task is to scare its "founders".
    Give money, give money - a familiar motto.
  15. veksha50
    veksha50 6 November 2015 10: 33
    +3
    "First, Russia capable of suddenly starting large-scale exercises involving tens of thousands of military"...

    This is one of our factors of advantage ... Without having "friends-allies", we do not need to go through a bunch of approvals and dump a lot of information into other people's headquarters, from which this information may be at the time of the enemy ...

    But all these NATO refrains and praises of the Russian army must be taken with caution, and we must continue to re-equip the army and navy and their constant combat training ...
  16. manguest
    manguest 6 November 2015 10: 34
    +1
    More than one generation of military personnel has already changed in NATO, who assessed the risks of service far below the high salary, various benefits and preferences. Option quickly everyone will move east with real chances to return with luggage, I think it’s not very popular.
  17. PROVINCIAL
    PROVINCIAL 6 November 2015 10: 36
    +3
    Now in the Western media there is a real boom about the fact that Russia is stronger than ever, let's not flatter ourselves - this is just an extra reason to raise the military budgets of the "partner" countries (interested individuals), the Russian Armed Forces are being restored slowly but surely, WE are no longer pawns, but also not queens - if you evaluate the military-political situation in the world as a chessboard.
    1. 8982795roman
      8982795roman 7 November 2015 09: 12
      0
      Russia's task is not to box with NATO, but to constantly clinch it and not to allow action
  18. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 6 November 2015 10: 38
    +4
    They hesitated to praise the praises of the Russian army. If we are not scolded, but praised, it is worth considering. Even if it is deserved.
    Work and work yet. I do not belittle the deserved successes of our military, but just try to take a sober look at things:
    1. Suddenly starting exercises is easier to start with one army, NATO members need to coordinate them. Almost international negotiations.
    2. New technical capabilities have appeared - all right, a new weapon is changing the capabilities of our army, increasing its effectiveness at times. ...these missiles could threaten Berlin if such ships entered the Mediterranean Sea... Yeah, but remember that now almost any warship with these missiles can go to the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean - you go into the Black Sea with axes on board.
    3.... the interests of 28 alliance countries are too diverse ... But their 28 countries and not all of them are Estonians and Lithuanians.
    4.NATO admits that in a number of regions it can no longer confront Russia. This is very good, but how many more regions, where so far, unfortunately, our army cannot reach ...
  19. solovey
    solovey 6 November 2015 10: 39
    -2
    RUSSIANS have never lost a war - even in the most difficult times !!!!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 6 November 2015 10: 52
      +1
      Quote: solovey
      RUSSIAN never lost a war

      Crimean, Russian-Japanese, "Second Patriotic" ... even three times in 70 years.
      1. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 6 November 2015 12: 44
        +3
        Quote: V.ic
        Crimean, Russian-Japanese, "second Patriotic" ... in 70 years, even three times


        And where is the "second domestic"? What three defeats in 70 years? Afghanistan??? May be...

        And how, you call the Great Patriotic War "the second Patriotic", so on May 9 we will celebrate the 70th anniversary of VICTORY, not defeat, in this cruel battle.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 6 November 2015 15: 30
          +1
          Quote: evge-malyshev
          How do you call the "second Patriotic" Great Patriotic War

          The first was in 1812, the second in 1914-1917. You should be more attentive and pay attention to the "quotes" in the mentioned title.
      2. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 6 November 2015 12: 44
        0
        Quote: V.ic
        Crimean, Russian-Japanese, "second Patriotic" ... in 70 years, even three times


        And where is the "second domestic"? What three defeats in 70 years? Afghanistan??? May be...

        And how, you call the Great Patriotic War "the second Patriotic", so on May 9 we will celebrate the 70th anniversary of VICTORY, not defeat, in this cruel battle.
  20. fleks
    fleks 6 November 2015 10: 39
    +1
    The Huffington Post /////
    Is it a joke or a blot? I do not understand guys
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  21. Ledorub
    Ledorub 6 November 2015 11: 46
    +4
    I don’t understand at all why the generals are so worried. There is also the "valiant coolest in Europe" Ukrainian army, which is stacking Russian battalions in the Donbass. And practically without weapons, by the power of thought. The main thing is to send more booze and spice there and they will do everything themselves, and even they will reach the Urals in three days. Blue Field Marshal Manstein, ugh damn it, Vanstein, ugh damn it, Waltzman himself says that they are single-handedly saving Europe from Russian aggression. So, gentlemen, NATO generals, you are behind them like a wall named after Yaytsonyuk. And for free — you don’t give them weapons, you don’t accept money, either. Lafa!
    So, gentlemen generals, get comfortable at the computer, climb into some Ukrainian site and enjoy the defeat of Russia. Just don’t look out the window, there some migrants are driving your family out of the house, but it’s not as scary as the Russian threat.
  22. PValery53
    PValery53 6 November 2015 14: 52
    -1
    If NATO and America already (in peacetime) cannot resist Russian power, then it is time to think about unconditional surrender. John, Hans, Henry! Surrender to Russian Ivan!
  23. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 6 November 2015 15: 51
    0
    This situation is very worried about the Alliance Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. “We need to be sure that we are able to bypass this potential, so that if necessary we can strengthen, deploy and deploy troops,” he said.

    Absolutely normal position of a person defending the interests of corporations producing weapons. Since the beginning of the 21st century, the revenues of the latter have significantly decreased, largely due to the decrease in the military budgets of all countries of the alliance, without exception. The sale of arms to third countries did not compensate for the loss of income, this is clearly seen in the example of the same Indian tenders for a light fighter. In our press, it was covered rather one-sidedly, and only in the issue of its loss (tender) by us, in reality, the tender is surrounded by numerous scandals and "showdowns" among its participants, for it NATO partners fought among themselves in all available ways, not disdaining anything, since it was the largest financially in the current century. And since the arms business employs directly and in an affiliated manner, according to the National Interest magazine, up to 1.5 million workers in Europe alone, not only the owners of arms companies but also the ruling political circles are interested in its development, as a factor in ensuring highly paid jobs ... And in this situation "suddenly" Russia "showed muscle", naturally, the arms corporations immediately took advantage of this, hence the rhetoric of Stoltenberg and the groaning of American commanders. To a greater extent, they lobby the interests of gunsmiths. Therefore, such statements should be perceived carefully, without the urya-patriotic hat.

    Such a subjective opinion, Dear colleagues. hi
  24. Maksus
    Maksus 6 November 2015 16: 54
    +1
    Do not forget about the most important thing, about the LANGUAGE! Our army, EVERYTHING, from an ordinary to a general, speaks Russian, someone is better, someone is worse, but IN RUSSIAN! And NATO speaks different languages, in battle it may be worth the time it takes to translate. After all, English household and military are very different things, a lot of slang, different even for an American and an Englishman, for the rest - generally incomprehensible.
  25. pvv113
    pvv113 6 November 2015 16: 55
    +3
    “These missiles could also threaten Berlin if such ships reached the Mediterranean,” quotes author of the NATO forces commander Hans Domreuse

    It’s not necessary to drive ships - from Kaliningrad to Berlin is much closer
  26. Marconi41
    Marconi41 7 November 2015 04: 38
    +2
    How little we need to fall into euphoria!
    1. "A blow has been struck on Syria with Calibers" Uraaaa! Well, how many of those "Calibers" do we have? More than NATO "axes" ???
    2. "Our Aerospace Forces made over a thousand sorties!" Uraaa! How far did the Syrian troops advance? How many terrorists were killed?
    3. "Our army is intensively rearming!" Uraaa! Well, take a ride to Siberia and the Far East, see what our army uses there and how it is equipped.

    Of course, we have changes for the better, but work is still unmeasured! And all this foreign writing, just knocking out money for defense from their countries.
  27. iAi
    iAi 25 November 2015 17: 58
    0
    Cool down. The main blow against Russia was inflicted not on Russia itself, but on its periphery - to neighboring countries: Ukraine, the Baltic states, Moldova.
    The victory of anti-Russian politics is OBVIOUS in them.