Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy: Rubin Central Design Bureau will significantly improve the performance of Lada 677 submarines during modernization

Commander-in-Chief of the Navy fleet RF Admiral Viktor Chirkov said in an interview with RIA "News"that the specialists of TsBB Rubin, working on the project for the modernization of serial diesel-electric submarines (LEPD) Lada, will significantly improve the performance of these submarines.




“In the serial construction of the diesel-electric submarines of the 677 project, a number of characteristics of these submarines will be significantly improved. Such a task was put to the designers of this boat - the central design bureau “Rubin”, and it is being carried out, ”the newspaper quotes from an interview "Sight".

The admiral stressed that currently the head submarine of the 677 project called “St. Petersburg” is undergoing trial operation in the Northern Fleet, and the experience gained will be used in the construction of serial submarines.

On Thursday, in St. Petersburg, there was a solemn ceremony of accepting Krasnodar diesel-electric submarines of the 636 Varshavyanka project into the Russian Navy. At the same time, according to Chirkov, it is planned that in the future the submarines of the 677 “Lada” project will come to replace “Varshavyanka”.

On July 17, Igor Vilnit, Director General of the TsDB MT Rubin, said that Lada-type submarines would be equipped with domestic anaerobic facilities for the first time.

The length of the submarines of this project is 66.8 meters, width - 7.1 meters. They can dive to depths up to 300 meters, developing the speed of a 21 node under water. The crew of the submarine "Lada" - 35 people. And the duration of their autonomous navigation reaches 45 days.

Currently, the 677 submarines have no competitors in terms of combat effectiveness and other tactical and technical characteristics. Their main purpose is the destruction of submarines, surface ships and ships, as well as enemy coastal facilities, the installation of minefields, the landing and reception of sabotage and reconnaissance groups.
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  1. svp67 6 November 2015 06: 49 New
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    Currently, Project 677 submarines have no competitors in terms of combat effectiveness and other tactical and technical characteristics.
    It’s doubtful ... How much can our “miracle boat” be continuously under water?
    Hooray, hooray is good, but you have to see the flaws.
    1. shans2 6 November 2015 06: 53 New
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      it can stay for weeks, only it can move only a few hundred kilometers without an anaerobic engine.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich 6 November 2015 07: 14 New
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        Quote: shans2
        it can be for weeks

        come on! several days no more, up to 400 nautical miles in underwater position.
      2. dauria 6 November 2015 09: 50 New
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        several hundred km without an anaerobic engine.


        Well, a stirling engine with a supply of fuel and an oxidizing agent (kerosene and oxygen) with simple calculations "energy supply / mass" outperforms lithium batteries by a maximum of 5 times. And it won’t get any better. But the trouble with the boat, and with the supply bases adds immeasurably. For non-nuclear countries, this may be a solution. For us who know how to make reactors like Lira boats, I don’t see the point. If only for sale to third countries.

        who are not lazy, you can count. Moreover, these figures do not take into account the weight of auxiliary cryo-equipment.
        3.18 kg of oxygen per 1 kg of kerosene
        Kerosene 10400 43500 / 4.18 = 10287 - stirling efficiency 30% - 3 429 kJ / kg

        Li-ion batteries 648 kJ / kg
    2. Andrey Yuryevich 6 November 2015 07: 13 New
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      Quote: svp67
      It’s doubtful ..

      and doubts are justified ... there are competitors: yes "Sea Wolf", or, say, German, project 209 ... our journalists always have "no analogues" ..
      1. DenZ 6 November 2015 08: 23 New
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        ... there are competitors: yes "Sea Wolf

        Sea Wolf nuclear boat why are you comparing it with diesel? To leave.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich 6 November 2015 08: 35 New
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          Quote: DenZ
          ... there are competitors: yes "Sea Wolf

          Sea Wolf nuclear boat why are you comparing it with diesel? To leave.

          to blame ... recourse
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      3. FREGATENKAPITAN 6 November 2015 08: 34 New
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        I’m wondering ... what are you based on when comparing the latest nuclear submarines of the USA and DIPL? Ships have completely different tasks ... Comparing the 209 Ave. submarines that the Germans have been releasing since 1971 (!!!!) and LADA? By the way, a German woman is considered to be a patrol ... LADA-multipurpose ........ TTX-TTD I will not bring, it makes no sense
    3. Sweles 6 November 2015 07: 13 New
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      Quote: svp67
      It’s impressive how ... And how much can our “miracle boat” be continuously under water?
      Hooray, hooray is good, but you have to see the flaws.



      Project 636 Vashavyanka can walk with a snorkel - 7.5 thousand miles under water, but on electric traction - 400 miles. It seems that Lada can do more.
      1. NEXUS 6 November 2015 09: 57 New
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        Quote: Sveles
        It seems that Lada can do more.

        It’s time to bring the Lada project to mind and put it into series. Otherwise, they declared a miracle of opportunity, and things are still there. We need a lot of submarines like Varshavyanka and Lada. Therefore, work on Lada should be accelerated. hi
        1. avt
          avt 6 November 2015 10: 05 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          It is time to bring the Lada project to mind and put into series.

          request
          Admiral Viktor Chirkov, Commander-in-Chief of the Navy of the Russian Federation, said in an interview with RIA Novosti that the specialists of the Rubin Central Design Bureau working on a modernization project for serial diesel-electric submarines (DEPL) Lada will significantly improve the characteristics of these submarines.
          and right there
          Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov told about plans to build non-nuclear submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project not only for the Black Sea, but also for other fleets.
          ,, How do you command me to understand you? Said? "wassat
          1. NEXUS 6 November 2015 10: 10 New
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            Quote: avt
            ,, How do you command me to understand you? Said? "

            I really hope that this is not a coffin lid for Lada. recourse
            1. Sukhoi 6 November 2015 12: 02 New
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              I really hope that this is not a coffin lid for Lada. recourse

              If they manage to bring Lada to mind and put into production, there is no doubt. Viburnum only after 2030. planned, so time wagon and small trolley.
          2. g1v2 6 November 2015 10: 21 New
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            Well, the project of the mode seems to go on fine-tuning, and for the Pacific Fleet and possibly the Baltic they will build cheap Warsaw. ASCA on which they were going to build modalities are unlikely to be pulled in the current state from scratch, and the Warsaw women are a well-functioning project. In any case, the TOF DEPL needs new Warsaws with calibers, obviously they will be no worse than the halibuts of the 80s that are there now. And by the way, it is possible that they will not be modernized, but Warsaw women will be built. "St. Nicholas the Miracle Worker" seems to have been written off, it’s being modernized and seems almost ready. There are 187 halibuts left, one of which will probably be written off - Chita is already 6 years old. And what is more profitable - to upgrade 81 old halibuts or build 5 new Warsaw ladies is another question. However, it is also necessary to clarify that it is one thing to build them at the Admiralty shipyards, where the process is debugged so that they can be built in a year and a half from scratch and another at the Shipyard, which is only being put in order and where the submarines have not been built for a long time. Incidentally, a deep-missile strike in the Far East will take, as it seems to me, a year more than in St. Petersburg.
          3. Marconi41 7 November 2015 05: 13 New
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            Quote: avt
            How do you command me to understand? Said?

            Everything is simple. Varshavyanka, a proven fighter. But Lada so far "frowns" our sailors.
        2. Marconi41 7 November 2015 05: 11 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          It's time to bring the Lada project to mind and put into series

          They say problems are not measured! It may even happen that the series will be very small. We will see.
        3. Snezhnorets 7 November 2015 20: 00 New
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          Absolutely the right position!
  2. Moore 6 November 2015 07: 03 New
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    On Thursday, in St. Petersburg, there was a solemn ceremony of accepting Krasnodar diesel-electric submarines of the 636 Varshavyanka project into the Russian Navy. At the same time, according to Chirkov, it is planned that in the future the submarines of the 677 “Lada” project will come to replace “Varshavyanka”.
    - this is RIA Novosti

    MOSCOW, November 5. / TASS /. The command of the Russian Navy is considering the possibility of building non-nuclear submarines of project 636.3 Varshavyanka, not only for the Black Sea Fleet, but also for others. This was announced on November 5 to reporters by the commander in chief of the Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov.
    Are you going to build both types, or did everyone hear what they wanted?
    1. 31rus 6 November 2015 07: 33 New
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      I don’t think that the 677 series will be brought to mind, and this is an aerobic installation (obviously not everything works out), I will do project 636, it’s amazing that it just came to the conclusion that these submarines are needed in all fleets, I also want to add an article about Japanese similar boats (here they are considered the best), but only because of the equipment of the aerobic installation
      1. Maxom75 6 November 2015 09: 01 New
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        They are done a little differently. On Japanese submarines, hydrogen is transported in cylinders; on our planes, it was planned to receive directly from the fuel in the volumes necessary for operation, i.e. ours do not want to put the crew on a hydrogen bomb, because if something is wrong, detonation is inevitable.
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    3. Evgeniy667b 6 November 2015 11: 23 New
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      It was necessary to start building 636.3 for other fleets yesterday, and ONE is only considering it. Project 677 has not yet come out of the scope of promises, and even respected Igor Vilnit will not be able to answer how long it will last. He has dreams in bright dreams when Indians, Vietnamese, Chinese all bought and bought. And here the harsh reality pecks like a roasted cock. In the Russian Navy, too, is necessary, otherwise fraught ... Wake up Igor, along with all the "Ruby" !!! Enough to arm everyone who cares, otherwise it will be too late!
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  3. venaya 6 November 2015 07: 11 New
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    They can dive to depths of up to 300 meters

    Perhaps a certain breakthrough occurred in this indicator? Invisibility is the main weapon of the submarine fleet and a prerequisite for the successful completion of combat missions. The rest is visible and not very significant, there will always be an opportunity to finalize, bring to mind.
    1. DenZ 6 November 2015 08: 26 New
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      Perhaps a certain breakthrough occurred in this indicator?

      There is no breakthrough in this! Quite a common indicator for modern boats.
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  4. chunga-changa 6 November 2015 13: 52 New
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    Obviously, with new boats, trouble.