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Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy: Rubin Central Design Bureau will significantly improve the performance of Lada 677 submarines during modernization

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Commander-in-Chief of the Navy fleet RF Admiral Viktor Chirkov said in an interview with RIA "News"that the specialists of TsBB Rubin, working on the project for the modernization of serial diesel-electric submarines (LEPD) Lada, will significantly improve the performance of these submarines.




“In the serial construction of the diesel-electric submarines of the 677 project, a number of characteristics of these submarines will be significantly improved. Such a task was put to the designers of this boat - the central design bureau “Rubin”, and it is being carried out, ”the newspaper quotes from an interview "Sight".

The admiral stressed that currently the head submarine of the 677 project called “St. Petersburg” is undergoing trial operation in the Northern Fleet, and the experience gained will be used in the construction of serial submarines.

On Thursday, in St. Petersburg, there was a solemn ceremony of accepting Krasnodar diesel-electric submarines of the 636 Varshavyanka project into the Russian Navy. At the same time, according to Chirkov, it is planned that in the future the submarines of the 677 “Lada” project will come to replace “Varshavyanka”.

On July 17, Igor Vilnit, Director General of the TsDB MT Rubin, said that Lada-type submarines would be equipped with domestic anaerobic facilities for the first time.

The length of the submarines of this project is 66.8 meters, width - 7.1 meters. They can dive to depths up to 300 meters, developing the speed of a 21 node under water. The crew of the submarine "Lada" - 35 people. And the duration of their autonomous navigation reaches 45 days.

Currently, the 677 submarines have no competitors in terms of combat effectiveness and other tactical and technical characteristics. Their main purpose is the destruction of submarines, surface ships and ships, as well as enemy coastal facilities, the installation of minefields, the landing and reception of sabotage and reconnaissance groups.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 6 November 2015 06: 49 New
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    Currently, Project 677 submarines have no competitors in terms of combat effectiveness and other tactical and technical characteristics.
    Сомнительно как то... А сколько наша "чудо лодка" может находится непрерывно под водой?
    Hooray, hooray is good, but you have to see the flaws.
    1. shans2
      shans2 6 November 2015 06: 53 New
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      it can stay for weeks, only it can move only a few hundred kilometers without an anaerobic engine.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 6 November 2015 07: 14 New
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        Quote: shans2
        it can be for weeks

        come on! several days no more, up to 400 nautical miles in underwater position.
      2. dauria
        dauria 6 November 2015 09: 50 New
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        several hundred km without an anaerobic engine.


        Ну, двигатель стирлинга с запасом топлива и окислителя (керосина и кислорода ) при простеньких расчетах "запас энергии / масса " выигрывает у литиевых аккумуляторов максимум в 5 раз. И лучше уже не станет. А вот хлопот с лодкой , да и с базами снабжения добавляет немеряно. Для неядерных стран это, может и решение. Для нас, умеющих делать реакторы по типу лодок "Лира" , не вижу смысла. Если только на продажу третьим странам.

        who are not lazy, you can count. Moreover, these figures do not take into account the weight of auxiliary cryo-equipment.
        3.18 kg of oxygen per 1 kg of kerosene
        Kerosene 10400 43500 / 4.18 = 10287 - stirling efficiency 30% - 3 429 kJ / kg

        Li-ion batteries 648 kJ / kg
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 6 November 2015 07: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      It’s doubtful ..

      and doubts are justified ... there are competitors: yes "Sea Wolf",или скажем,немецкие,проекта 209...у наших журналистов всегда наши-"не имеют аналогов" ..
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 6 November 2015 08: 23 New
        +3
        ...конкуренты есть: yes "Sea Wolf

        Sea Wolf nuclear boat why are you comparing it with diesel? To leave.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 6 November 2015 08: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: DenZ
          ...конкуренты есть: yes "Sea Wolf

          Sea Wolf nuclear boat why are you comparing it with diesel? To leave.

          to blame ... recourse
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      3. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 6 November 2015 08: 34 New
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        I’m wondering ... what are you based on when comparing the latest nuclear submarines of the USA and DIPL? Ships have completely different tasks ... Comparing the 209 Ave. submarines that the Germans have been releasing since 1971 (!!!!) and LADA? By the way, a German woman is considered to be a patrol ... LADA-multipurpose ........ TTX-TTD I will not bring, it makes no sense
    3. Sweles
      Sweles 6 November 2015 07: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      омнительно как то... А сколько наша "чудо лодка" может находится непрерывно под водой?
      Hooray, hooray is good, but you have to see the flaws.



      Project 636 Vashavyanka can walk with a snorkel - 7.5 thousand miles under water, but on electric traction - 400 miles. It seems that Lada can do more.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 November 2015 09: 57 New
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        Quote: Sveles
        It seems that Lada can do more.

        It’s time to bring the Lada project to mind and put it into series. Otherwise, they declared a miracle of opportunity, and things are still there. We need a lot of submarines like Varshavyanka and Lada. Therefore, work on Lada should be accelerated. hi
        1. avt
          avt 6 November 2015 10: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          It is time to bring the Lada project to mind and put into series.

          request
          Admiral Viktor Chirkov, Commander-in-Chief of the Navy of the Russian Federation, said in an interview with RIA Novosti that the specialists of the Rubin Central Design Bureau working on a modernization project for serial diesel-electric submarines (DEPL) Lada will significantly improve the characteristics of these submarines.
          and right there
          Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov told about plans to build non-nuclear submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project not only for the Black Sea, but also for other fleets.
          ,, Как прикажешь тебя понимать ? Саид? "wassat
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 6 November 2015 10: 10 New
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            Quote: avt
            ,, Как прикажешь тебя понимать ? Саид? "

            I really hope that this is not a coffin lid for Lada. recourse
            1. Sukhoi
              Sukhoi 6 November 2015 12: 02 New
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              I really hope that this is not a coffin lid for Lada. recourse

              If they manage to bring Lada to mind and put into production, there is no doubt. Viburnum only after 2030. planned, so time wagon and small trolley.
          2. g1v2
            g1v2 6 November 2015 10: 21 New
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            Well, the project of the mode seems to go on fine-tuning, and for the Pacific Fleet and possibly the Baltic they will build cheap Warsaw. ASCA on which they were going to build modalities are unlikely to be pulled in the current state from scratch, and the Warsaw women are a well-functioning project. In any case, the TOF DEPL needs new Warsaws with calibers, obviously they will be no worse than the halibuts of the 80s that are there now. And by the way, it is possible that they will not be modernized, but Warsaw women will be built. "St. Nicholas the Miracle Worker" seems to have been written off, it’s being modernized and seems almost ready. There are 187 halibuts left, one of which will probably be written off - Chita is already 6 years old. And what is more profitable - to upgrade 81 old halibuts or build 5 new Warsaw ladies is another question. However, it is also necessary to clarify that it is one thing to build them at the Admiralty shipyards, where the process is debugged so that they can be built in a year and a half from scratch and another at the Shipyard, which is only being put in order and where the submarines have not been built for a long time. Incidentally, a deep-missile strike in the Far East will take, as it seems to me, a year more than in St. Petersburg.
          3. Marconi41
            Marconi41 7 November 2015 05: 13 New
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            Quote: avt
            How do you command me to understand? Said?

            Все просто. Варшавянка, проверенный боец. А вот Лада пока что "хмурится" нашим морякам.
        2. Marconi41
          Marconi41 7 November 2015 05: 11 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          It's time to bring the Lada project to mind and put into series

          They say problems are not measured! It may even happen that the series will be very small. We will see.
        3. Snezhnorets
          Snezhnorets 7 November 2015 20: 00 New
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          Absolutely the right position!
  2. Moore
    Moore 6 November 2015 07: 03 New
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    On Thursday, in St. Petersburg, there was a solemn ceremony of accepting Krasnodar diesel-electric submarines of the 636 Varshavyanka project into the Russian Navy. At the same time, according to Chirkov, it is planned that in the future the submarines of the 677 “Lada” project will come to replace “Varshavyanka”.
    - this is RIA Novosti

    МОСКВА, 5 ноября. /ТАСС/. Командование ВМФ России рассматривает возможность строительства неатомных подводных лодок проекта 636.3 "Варшавянка" не только для Черноморского флота, но и для других. Об этом сообщил 5 ноября журналистам главком Военно-морского флота адмирал Виктор Чирков.
    Are you going to build both types, or did everyone hear what they wanted?
    1. 31rus
      31rus 6 November 2015 07: 33 New
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      I don’t think that the 677 series will be brought to mind, and this is an aerobic installation (obviously not everything works out), I will do project 636, it’s amazing that it just came to the conclusion that these submarines are needed in all fleets, I also want to add an article about Japanese similar boats (here they are considered the best), but only because of the equipment of the aerobic installation
      1. Maxom75
        Maxom75 6 November 2015 09: 01 New
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        They are done a little differently. On Japanese submarines, hydrogen is transported in cylinders; on our planes, it was planned to receive directly from the fuel in the volumes necessary for operation, i.e. ours do not want to put the crew on a hydrogen bomb, because if something is wrong, detonation is inevitable.
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    3. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 6 November 2015 11: 23 New
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      Строить 636.3 для других флотов нужно было начинать еще вчера, а ОНЕ только рассматривают. Проект 677 пока еще не вышел а рамки обещаний, а сколько это будет продолжаться не сможет ответить даже уважаемый Игорь Вильнит. Ему в светлых снах снятся времена, когда индусы, вьетнамцы, китайцы все покупали и покупали. А тут суровая реальность клюет подобно жареному петушку. В российские ВМС тоже надо, иначе чревато... Проснитесь Игорь, вместе со всем "Рубином"!!! Хватит вооружать всех кого попало, а то поздно будет!
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  3. venaya
    venaya 6 November 2015 07: 11 New
    +1
    They can dive to depths of up to 300 meters

    Perhaps a certain breakthrough occurred in this indicator? Invisibility is the main weapon of the submarine fleet and a prerequisite for the successful completion of combat missions. The rest is visible and not very significant, there will always be an opportunity to finalize, bring to mind.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 6 November 2015 08: 26 New
      +2
      Perhaps a certain breakthrough occurred in this indicator?

      There is no breakthrough in this! Quite a common indicator for modern boats.
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  4. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 November 2015 13: 52 New
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    Obviously, with new boats, trouble.