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Ukraine: Odessa Shame ("Der Spiegel", Germany)

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After the street fighting in Odessa in May 2014, a fire started in the House of Trade Unions. 48 people died. And now the Council of Europe issued a murderous sentence to Ukraine.

Odessa is a metropolis located near the Black Sea. Representatives of over 100 peoples live here. Port and trade contributed to the development of the city, which is distinguished by cordiality and a relaxed atmosphere. But after 2 in May 2014, the name “Odessa” is associated not with tolerance, but with rampant violence - as well as with the authorities, who did nothing to protect the victims.

The two groups confronted each other that day. About 2000 Ukrainians came to the rally in support of a successful revolution on the Maidan and the "unity of the country." Among them were hooligans and nationalists from Kiev and Kharkov. On the other side were those who call themselves "Anti-Maidan": their flags were Russian flags and St. George ribbons. "Antimaydanovtsy" attacked the hooligans, and the street battle began.

They shot at each other, six people died. In the evening, hooligans and nationalists attacked the headquarters of Anti-Maidan, a tent camp near the House of Trade Unions. Pro-Russian activists barricaded themselves in the House, flew "Molotov cocktails." The fire engulfed the building. By the end of the day, 48 people died.

The investigation is not progressing.



The tragedy occurred a year and a half ago, but the investigation barely progressed. And now the Council of Europe issued a murderous sentence to Ukraine. The report, presented on Wednesday in Kiev, states that "there is no any progressive development in the investigation." The authorities do not show "sufficient thoroughness and thoroughness." The evidence is lost because the next day street cleaners simply swept them away. Access to the ruins of the House of Trade Unions was closed only a few days later.

True, many criminal cases are still being investigated because of street fighting, but there is no accusation in the case of the attack on the House of Trade Unions. The only suspect was released on the grounds of insufficient evidence.

At the same time there are documented evidence of stiffness. Some pro-Ukrainian demonstrators, however, tried to rescue people from the burning building. But the numerous videotapes made by the mobile phone show aggressive people who continue to hunt. On one of the records you can see a man who is saved by going down the fire escape. And when he was on the ground, they attacked him and started beating him. He climbed the stairs and returned to the burning building. Another video: people jump out of the windows, many are injured and are lying on the ground. There they were dominated by a man who attacked them with a baseball bat.

The impact of events has gone beyond the city



Censure of the Council of Europe is more than sophistry of the West. Events in Odessa had an impact on what was happening outside the city. Separatists in Donetsk and Lugansk justify their armed struggle against Kiev by the need to defend themselves from the nationalist gangs that are being killed. The Russian media say the same thing: Odessa is proof that Ukraine purposefully preys on friends of Russia.

Ukraine has taken few steps to prove the injustice of such recriminations. The then governor of the Odessa region even justified the arson: the actions were “legitimate” because they were necessary to “neutralize the armed terrorists”. Today, only two investigators are involved.

The report lists all the facts known to date. Conspiracy theories are rejected. The Council of Europe also cites the results of an investigation conducted by a civil initiative from Odessa. Activists call themselves "The 2 Group of May." They own the most transparent investigation into the tragedy. They did not find any indication of the conspiracy. “On the contrary,” says Sergey Dibrov, a reporter and spokesman for the Group. “Everything developed erratically, spontaneously, unpredictably.” The real reason is, in his words, “in the degeneration of all government bodies caused by pervasive corruption.”

Chronicle of failure



The 90-page report of the Council of Europe is also a chronicle of the failure of the authorities. So, the police, two days before the events, learned about plans to destroy the Anti-Maidan camp at the Trade Unions House. But the police brought there only a hundred people, sent as many to the city center. Officials watched indifferently as the pro-Russian fighter fired his rifle into the crowd.

Orders that day gave the deputy police chief of Odessa Dmitry Fuchedzhi. His role remains mysterious. On May 4, he allowed a pro-Russian crowd to smash the gates of the central police building with a truck and free many detainees. True, a special forces detachment arrived at the scene, but did not intervene. But the investigators could not interrogate the commander: by the time Fuchedji was finally wanted, he had disappeared abroad.

Firefighters did not help either. The nearest fire station is located no more than 500 meters from the House of Trade Unions. The then head of the administration said that he strictly forbade his people to leave. According to him, the situation was too dangerous. It is very possible that the professional lifeguard had other reasons: as they say in Odessa, he became head of the fire department only because his father had once served as mayor.

The Internet edition "Duma" later announced a recording of a conversation with the dispatching emergency service. There you can hear how the “telephone lady” coldly informs the caller that the fire is absolutely not dangerous. Then she hangs up. Then they called from the House of Trade Unions. “We are on the way,” the telephonist reassured. In response, a sob: "We will now burn."
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  1. anEkeName
    anEkeName 6 November 2015 14: 52 New
    26
    Ukraine: Odessa shame.

    Shameless shame does not feel.
    1. Victor_759
      Victor_759 6 November 2015 14: 57 New
      -104
      Heroes of New Russia are attacked by the channel of Putiners and Zionists of the Kremlin: Solovyov - Shapiro began with Strelkov

      1. Bobxnumx
        Bobxnumx 6 November 2015 15: 07 New
        27
        There are more questions than answers for this hero. what
        1. Victor_759
          Victor_759 6 November 2015 15: 28 New
          -66


          Surkov Vladislav Yurievich aka Dudaev Aslanbek Andarbekovich. Do not worry and do not worry in vain, this person will take care of the Russian people of Donbass. This is a real Russian patriot! Responsible and honest person! Look into his eyes a decent man, look at his hardworking white hands, not knowing the dirt kickbacks and bribery. What is only a pedicure on these blessed hands. This pedicure is worth relying on the owner of these fingers! Putiloslivshchiki and all-fingers out of Russia! Get out of your mind! Dudaev Aslanbek Andarbekovich, unlike you, a real Russian patriot and he will defeat all enemies of Russia! With us is United Russia! Long live Putin! Go Russia!
          1. Victor_759
            Victor_759 6 November 2015 15: 34 New
            -69


            V.V. Putin: “We will support these agreements until the very end,” the Russian president told her with the same diffused smile, “that is, until they are all fully implemented, and as for Petro Poroshenko, I was the first to support him. And I will support him further. "

            businessman newspaper: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2840136
            1. Eugene-Eugene
              Eugene-Eugene 6 November 2015 15: 56 New
              54
              Come on, Victor, burn. Can you recognize someone from your relatives?
              1. ALEA IACTA EST
                ALEA IACTA EST 6 November 2015 16: 48 New
                +7
                Quote: Eugene-Eugene
                Come on, Victor, burn. Can you recognize someone from your relatives?

                Found in the topic. hi
              2. Now we are free
                Now we are free 6 November 2015 16: 57 New
                41
                Everything is very simple, in Odessa:
                1) There were no weapons
                2) There was no understanding of what kind of animals they would encounter.

                In Donetsk / Lugansk there was already a weapon and the main understanding that it is better to die from a bullet than to burn down alive under the gnaw of "Primato-Banderlog"
                The bottom line:
                1) Izvarinsky
                2) Ilovaisky
                3) Debaltsevsky coppers.
                The brave trash and the APU that joined them about ... e (ignoring) their
                the oath to the people in their skins showed very well to the whole world what happens to hate monkeys when they are given in the face.
                After:
                Shot Kiev
                Burned Odessa
                The dispersed Nikolaev and Kherson
                Spat upon Kharkov
                Bombed Donetsk and Lugansk

                I do not feel any pity for the National Bats / Terats, the National Guard, and the "Unfortunate-bonded" VSUshniks. They themselves chose their own path of madness, blood and lies to themselves. Let the “Blood Lambs” go all the way, led by their fake pastor, Poroshenko / Valtsman. And as Lucifer said -Any way traveled to the end ends ...
                1. Mikado
                  Mikado 7 November 2015 00: 16 New
                  +3
                  Moved by tanks Mariupol on the list forgot ..
              3. The comment was deleted.
              4. Down House
                Down House 6 November 2015 17: 26 New
                +4
                Quote: Eugene-Eugene
                Come on, burn.

                In his case, it’s enough to burn, after the “fever” the next phase is the final death of the brain laughing
              5. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
                Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 17: 57 New
                +6
                And why find out - in the middle, it says "Grandfather Vitka_79" - a traitor, a club, and a Bandera! "
            2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
              Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 17: 55 New
              +3
              Are you sho Benderyatko, lost, chi sho?
            3. Mishut37rf
              Mishut37rf 6 November 2015 21: 26 New
              +2
              Shale Liberator.
          2. Dimych
            Dimych 6 November 2015 15: 50 New
            27
            For reference: on the hands doing a manicure. The pedicure is in a completely different place. A normal person knows that. For maydanutykh is an impossible task. Go jump and burn a couple of tires, maybe let go.
            1. Victor_759
              Victor_759 6 November 2015 15: 53 New
              -39
              I copied the text from the Strelkov forum.
              1. Baikonur
                Baikonur 6 November 2015 16: 19 New
                +4
                B ... lin, for the hundredth time I say - Strelkov - . NIDA!
                They say to me - he is well-deserved, he fought for the DNI, LC, Novorossia!
                And I’m 3 more times - Ugh, Ugh, Ugh!

                And this Victor_759 - from the same forum format copies!
                copyist ... in!
                1. Lelek
                  Lelek 6 November 2015 18: 01 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Baikonur
                  B ... lin, for the hundredth time I say - Strelkov -. NIDA!


                  In general, you are right. A worthy man will never denigrate his fellow trenches and the work that he embodied with them.
                  Girkin’s desire to PR exceeded the feeling of military brotherhood and honor.
                  1. Mahmut
                    Mahmut 6 November 2015 19: 03 New
                    19
                    B ... lin, for the hundredth time I say - Strelkov -. NIDA!
                    They say to me - he is well-deserved, he fought for the DNI, LC, Novorossia!
                    And I’m 3 more times - Ugh, Ugh, Ugh!


                    A year ago, you were ready to kiss him. Otherwise, a damn bald marshal would become here.
                    Do not make yourself an idol. What the hell did he do to you. He violated the gospel commandment. So if created, do not betray him. So no betrayed. Remember what Jesus said to the apostle Peter in response to his fawning. "The roosters do not have time to crow, as you renounce me three times" Roosters crowed that Girkin is now not in favor. And now I can hear the painfully familiar voice "Okela waved !!!!!" So if you want to shit, do it over your left shoulder. The devil laughs behind your back, gee, gee, ... !!!!
                    1. Johnny51
                      Johnny51 6 November 2015 21: 45 New
                      +1
                      So a year ago, Strelkov was doing a completely different thing! This is the whole point! It’s a pity that everything happened with Igor, it’s a pity! .. The guy skidded ...
                    2. Aljavad
                      Aljavad 6 November 2015 22: 08 New
                      +4
                      Do not make yourself an idol.


                      It's right. A year ago, many of us prayed for him.

                      Fire and water passed, but under copper pipes - it contracted ...
                  2. Aposlya
                    Aposlya 7 November 2015 08: 04 New
                    +1
                    Fig yourself, how quickly everything changes here ?!

                    Only six months ago, on the forum, for doubts about Strelkov’s personality, everyone was minuscule to the missing ... Strelkova HERE was recently considered ALL Hero of Russia!

                    What is happening then?
                    1. Eugene-Eugene
                      Eugene-Eugene 7 November 2015 10: 11 New
                      0
                      Igor was blown away as it became unnecessary on the Kolchak fronts
                2. Johnny51
                  Johnny51 6 November 2015 21: 42 New
                  +6
                  Not everything is so straightforward ... Strelkov fought quite, very well, but on ... he got into politics? Is this his business ?! Or military merit, which I in no way want to belittle, give him the right to confront the President? Here he is - smallish ... Frankly speaking - not authority!
              2. meriem1
                meriem1 6 November 2015 18: 52 New
                +6
                Quote: Victor_759
                I copied the text from the Strelkov forum.


                You before him, as before China cancer !!!! First, find the facts of the Russian Army's stay in the Donbass ... What can I say. Member with a door handle do not confuse !!!
              3. Andrey Draganov
                Andrey Draganov 6 November 2015 19: 09 New
                +3
                Khokhlobidlo stirred.
              4. quote
                quote 6 November 2015 22: 15 New
                +1
                Quote: Victor_759
                I copied the text from the Strelkov forum.

                It's sick to comment. (It's not my fault!)
            2. Down House
              Down House 6 November 2015 17: 27 New
              +4
              Quote: Dimych
              For reference: on the hands doing a manicure. The pedicure is in a completely different place. A normal person knows that.

              And this is the Bandera golovotyap, they all have one place and upside down laughing
          3. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 6 November 2015 15: 57 New
            +1
            A pedicure is on feet, and on hands is called MANICURE!
          4. The
            The point 6 November 2015 16: 48 New
            0
            Here my wife told me that the pedicure was only on its feet. On hands- MANICURE. You even screwed up this. You minus.
          5. ALEA IACTA EST
            ALEA IACTA EST 6 November 2015 17: 09 New
            +5
            Victor, did you confuse this resource with the "censor"?
            So fat trolling is not welcome here.
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        3. Foxmara
          Foxmara 7 November 2015 07: 52 New
          0
          no more questions. the same maydaun -horse, only hiding behind Putin for a year.
          1. He unleashed a war and does not hide. victims of a thousand.
          2. In Crimea, they acted on the decree of Putin - there are no victims.
          3. A call to overthrow the regime after refusing to support the war in Ukraine.
          4. relations with the oligarch.
          5. high-speed shoe change (change of support of the “commander in chief” to Putin leaked)
          those. comrade just rubbed our glasses, and we believed, alas.
          I won’t be surprised if on May 2 it was organized with the goal of provocation to the war, there was still an incomprehensible group of "skirmishers" that led the crowd.
      2. Eugene-Eugene
        Eugene-Eugene 6 November 2015 15: 12 New
        54
        Shameless feel no shame

        Banderlogov not need to be ashamed, but to bring down to the fullest. They will not stop either in Odessa or in the Donbas until they leave ashes alone. This locust in his Bandera lands has already ruined everything that the hated scoop has left for her, now it is robbing and destroying Novorossia.
        1. patr
          patr 6 November 2015 15: 25 New
          14
          Yes! You're right. The state of bandits created
        2. boris-1230
          boris-1230 6 November 2015 19: 43 New
          +2
          Banderlog not need to be ashamed, but bring down to the full.

          A thief should sit in jail...

          A banderlog to lie in the ground! angry
      3. Eugene-Eugene
        Eugene-Eugene 6 November 2015 15: 15 New
        35
        Heroes of Novorossia are attacking the Putin’s and Zionist channel of the Kremlin

        Well done, Viktor, your grandfather is pleased with you.
        1. Serg81
          Serg81 6 November 2015 15: 35 New
          -45
          You should not have attached photos with children to Bandera. Some kind of polka committed this murder before the war. You can find it on the internet.
          1. Eugene-Eugene
            Eugene-Eugene 6 November 2015 15: 50 New
            26
            Of course, it is they themselves, as in Odessa. And here they are also themselves:
            1. cheega69
              cheega69 7 November 2015 01: 01 New
              +3
              Nevertheless, the previous photo is really not related to Bandera. It is a fact.
              1. alexng
                alexng 7 November 2015 02: 44 New
                +2
                And to the Volyn massacre, and to Babi Yar, are the bandershlues also not related? You from this meanness will never wash off again. There are things that do not have a statute of limitations. In vain you climbed into these poop, which is called banderlog. This will end badly for you.
          2. skifd
            skifd 6 November 2015 21: 31 New
            +8
            Quote: Serg81
            You should not have attached photos with children to Bandera. Some kind of polka committed this murder before the war. You can find it on the internet.


            All the same, I would like objectivity. EXACTLY THIS PHOTO ERROR(!!!) is considered confirmation of the atrocities of Bandera. What does not deny the authenticity of numerous other photo and film-documentary evidence!

            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Долинская,_Марианна

            Crazy mother who killed her children.

            Despite the fact that it is already associated with the UPA, it can be called a hoax of 60 years. How it really was.

            At the beginning of the winter of 1923, the population in villages near Radom suffered from poverty and hunger. Gypsy groups, who often took part in the theft of food and animals from local farms, began to annoy the local police particularly intensely. A week before the murder, 40-year-old Dolinsky's husband was arrested for several thefts. The woman was left alone with four hungry children. Unable to rely on the help of either the local population or the Polish Gypsies wandering around in the freezing terrain with children between the villages of Antoniówka and Kozłowska Siczki, gradually falling into a state of insanity, she decided, in the end, that the only way to protect children from hunger was to kill them. 11 December 1923 about 20 hours she hung four of their children on a tree:

            Sofia (6 months),

            Anthony (3 of the year),

            Bronislava (5 years)

            Stefan (7 years).

            The next day, at about 13 hours, Dolinskaya came to the police station in Radom and confessed to the murder. The police drove to the scene and found that the fact actually took place. Dolinskaya was arrested by the police and a photographer from Radom took some photos of the hanged children.




            1. Serg81
              Serg81 9 November 2015 10: 34 New
              0
              Thanks for the support.
              Dear forum users, it is not necessary to use manipulation or unverified facts to prove certain actions or facts. this discredits our struggle with Bandera and gives them an extra argument. Let us nevertheless be objective in everything.
              With respect to all forum users.
          3. Johnny51
            Johnny51 6 November 2015 21: 49 New
            +4
            Well, yes ... And the non-commissioned officer widow carved herself! And the SS troops simply obeyed the orders! .. It’s familiar, but how.
          4. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 7 November 2015 04: 09 New
            +1
            Well, in the internet a lot of things can be found, up to the theory of the emergence of the Black Sea. If I write a note now that my heel hair is growing, this still does not mean that it is. Although many will believe.
            1. Serg81
              Serg81 9 November 2015 10: 50 New
              0
              I apologize but the photo that ALEA IACTA EST (1) posted also from the Internet and you do not question it.
              Yes, there are a lot of things you can find on the Internet, but before you believe anything, look for confirmation in several sources, and only then draw a conclusion for yourself.
        2. Serg81
          Serg81 6 November 2015 15: 35 New
          -2
          You should not have attached photos with children to Bandera. Some kind of polka committed this murder before the war. You can find it on the internet.
          1. ALEA IACTA EST
            ALEA IACTA EST 6 November 2015 16: 54 New
            +5
            The Nazis have no nationality.
          2. zennon
            zennon 6 November 2015 20: 52 New
            +7
            Quote: Serg81
            You should not have attached photos with children to Bandera. Some kind of polka committed this murder before the war. You can find it on the internet.

            You are in vain minuser.Serg81 right:
            Marianna Dolinskaya (Polish: Marianna Dolińska; 1891-1928, Creatives - a gypsy from a camp located near the village of Antonovka [pl] near Radom. On the night of December 11-12, 1923, while in a state of insanity, she killed four of her children by hanging them on a tree. A photograph taken during the investigation of her dead children was later mistakenly used as evidence of UPA crimes in Poland.
            1. skifd
              skifd 6 November 2015 21: 51 New
              +5
              Quote: zennon
              You are in vain minuser.Serg81 right:


              I support. Dear forum users! Be objective! hi
              1. 33 Watcher
                33 Watcher 7 November 2015 04: 11 New
                0
                I minus, not because of the photo. For trying to justify Bandera.
                1. zennon
                  zennon 7 November 2015 23: 56 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Observer 33
                  I minus, not because of the photo. For trying to justify Bandera.

                  But he did not justify these bastards. Just do not smear the devil with soot. It will not become terrible.
                  1. Serg81
                    Serg81 9 November 2015 10: 27 New
                    0
                    Thanks for your support
                2. Serg81
                  Serg81 9 November 2015 10: 25 New
                  +1
                  I did not justify the activities of Bandera and do not justify. It's just that this photo has nothing to do with them. And the disadvantages that the respected members of the forum threw suggest that many really do not need, but in vain. This indicates that VO began to turn into a censor No and other ukrsmipomoyki. If a person wanted to put photos of the crimes of Bandera under his comment, then they are full on the network.
                  P, S. Let's dear forum users will not slide down to the level of Svidomo, but we will face the truth, no matter how bad she is
                3. Serg81
                  Serg81 9 November 2015 10: 25 New
                  0
                  I did not justify the activities of Bandera and do not justify. It's just that this photo has nothing to do with them. And the disadvantages that the respected members of the forum threw suggest that many really do not need, but in vain. This indicates that VO began to turn into a censor No and other ukrsmipomoyki. If a person wanted to put photos of the crimes of Bandera under his comment, then they are full on the network.
                  P, S. Let's dear forum users will not slide down to the level of Svidomo, but we will face the truth, no matter how bad she is
          3. theadenter
            theadenter 7 November 2015 02: 52 New
            +1
            I don’t know why you were bombarded. Probably too firmly the association of this photo with the actions of the UPA has settled in my head. You are right, specifically this photo does not apply to the atrocities of Bandera.
        3. G-iv
          G-iv 6 November 2015 15: 46 New
          +8
          Pork ears on a cap. How cute...
        4. ALEA IACTA EST
          ALEA IACTA EST 6 November 2015 16: 50 New
          27
          Quote: Eugene-Eugene
          Heroes of Novorossia are attacking the Putin’s and Zionist channel of the Kremlin

          Well done, Viktor, your grandfather is pleased with you.
        5. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 18: 08 New
          +4
          Where are the regular moderators? Throw Vitka_759 warnings to this banderlog and "disconnect" from the site constantly for inciting ethnic hatred!
      4. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 17: 53 New
        +2
        Vityok, change the flag to yellow-blakytny and molt from the site to "Apostrophe"!
      5. boroda64
        boroda64 7 November 2015 01: 15 New
        -2
        ....
        - and on the topic of the article
        - have something to say .. ??
        1. boroda64
          boroda64 7 November 2015 18: 23 New
          +1
          .....
          for - those who put a "-"
          = access already to the deleted user
          / Vitka /
    2. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 6 November 2015 15: 11 New
      28
      To their national shame: Khatyn, Babi Yar and other Ukrainians added Odessa! Only they still do not care, this is a clinic! Only surgical intervention, regretted after the war, we are now receiving the fruits of this forgiveness. Fascism is mold, the fungus is spreading on the surface uncontrollably, and talking, persuading and waiting for the insight of mold is pointless! am
      1. Temples
        Temples 6 November 2015 16: 39 New
        10
        This is not a clinic!
        This is at least quarantine.
        Leprosory.
        They are really lepers. It needs complete isolation. Not for nothing that they already enclose themselves with a thorn from people.
        Nonhumans.
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 6 November 2015 19: 48 New
          +2
          This is not a clinic!
          This is at least quarantine.
          Leprosory.
          They are really lepers. It needs complete isolation. Not for nothing that they already enclose themselves with a thorn from people.
          Nonhumans.

          This is not a clinic - this is a pathology! Only surgery will help here - remove and cut off! hi
      2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 18: 09 New
        +4
        Where are the regular moderators? Throw Vitka_759 warnings to this banderlog and "disconnect" from the site constantly for inciting ethnic hatred!
    3. Sterlya
      Sterlya 6 November 2015 16: 17 New
      +8
      Quote: anEkeName
      Ukraine: Odessa shame.

      Shameless shame does not feel.

      Ukraine is all a shame.
      1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 18: 09 New
        +1
        Where are the regular moderators? Throw Vitka_759 warnings to this banderlog and "disconnect" from the site constantly for inciting ethnic hatred!
    4. yuriy55
      yuriy55 6 November 2015 16: 25 New
      +6
      Shameless shame does not feel.


      But this does not hurt to put them on the count !!! am
    5. meriem1
      meriem1 6 November 2015 18: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: anEkeName
      The two groups confronted each other that day. About 2000 Ukrainians came to the rally in support of a successful revolution on the Maidan and the "unity of the country." Among them were hooligans and nationalists from Kiev and Kharkov. On the other side were those who call themselves "Anti-Maidan": their flags were Russian flags and St. George ribbons. "Antimaydanovtsy" attacked the hooligans, and the street battle began.



      It seems to me????

      The two groups confronted each other that day. About 2000 Ukrainians came to the rally in support of a successful revolution on the Maidan and the "unity of the country." Among them were hooligans and nationalists from Kiev and Kharkov. On the other side were those who call themselves "Anti-Maidan": their flags were Russian flags and St. George ribbons. "Antimaydanovtsy" attacked the hooligans, and the street battle began.


      Or is that so ??? P.a.al will not calm down ??? DARKNESS. Charlie confirmation of this .... Do they have a conscience ?????
  2. djqnbdjqnb
    djqnbdjqnb 6 November 2015 14: 52 New
    11
    Did the Council of Europe change orientation (doesn’t mean sexual)? I would like to ask: gentlemen, are you not late?
    1. anEkeName
      anEkeName 6 November 2015 14: 55 New
      12
      Quote: djqnbdjqnb
      Did the Council of Europe change orientation (doesn’t mean sexual)? I would like to ask: gentlemen, are you not late?

      They were late at home a long time ago.
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  4. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 6 November 2015 14: 55 New
    19
    Something too late to reproach. Where were you all the people in May 2014? Why were they silent? The dead can not be returned, the bandits who burned people alive, and the survivors were beaten with bits are now sitting in the power of Ukraine.
    Scum. Evil is not enough.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 6 November 2015 18: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Something too late to reproach.


      It was they (the Western businessmen) who had not yet come to their senses, but only made a small stuffing in connection with the fact that the former Ukraine was sick of it and hung with a heavy load. They will come to their senses and ask for sympathy when hundreds of ISIS members arrange their bloody carnivals in their cities and towns (ISIS and fascism are the same thing, only in different packages). yes
  5. Altona
    Altona 6 November 2015 14: 57 New
    +8
    When it will be in their streets, then we'll see ...
  6. NordUral
    NordUral 6 November 2015 15: 01 New
    11
    This is not only a shame, it is a crime.
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 18: 10 New
      0
      Where are the regular moderators? Throw Vitka_759 warnings to this banderlog and "disconnect" from the site constantly for inciting ethnic hatred!
      1. ver_
        ver_ 6 November 2015 18: 52 New
        -5
        ...SHUT UP...
        1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 21: 32 New
          +1
          Here! Another pig’s ears erupted!
        2. Eugene-Eugene
          Eugene-Eugene 7 November 2015 15: 10 New
          0
          Somehow ungallant, even for you
  7. Stoler
    Stoler 6 November 2015 15: 02 New
    +9
    But these nonhumans continue to live as if nothing had happened, they are not haunted by the screams of people burning alive, they have a calm sleep and a good appetite. May you die!
  8. dukalis
    dukalis 6 November 2015 15: 03 New
    +6
    Yes, they didn’t change, judging by the article everyone provoked who ???
    That's right, pro-Russian terror activists, in short everything is also only slightly embellished !!! Bastards are two-faced !!!
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 6 November 2015 16: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: dukalis
      That's right, pro-Russian terror activists, in short everything is also only slightly embellished !!! Bastards are two-faced !!!

      As for ... th duplicitous, I agree, but still a change in the rhetoric on the face - they, although with reservations about the "provocation of pro-Russian activists", but recognized. that a crowd of maydanuts burned down the house of trade unions, earlier they claimed that they said he himself caught fire, by accident ... Although this only proves their duplicity and hypocrisy ...
      1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 18: 14 New
        +2
        Where are the regular moderators? Throw Vitka_759 warnings to this banderlog and "disconnect" from the site constantly for inciting ethnic hatred!
        1. cheega69
          cheega69 7 November 2015 01: 06 New
          +4
          Not tired? Do you imagine such a macaroon on the general scraper?
  9. EvgNik
    EvgNik 6 November 2015 15: 04 New
    +5
    The article directly gives the Ukrainian authorities in what way they should conduct an investigation and what kind of results they expect from this “investigation”. Shame on Bene Bidder!
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 18: 10 New
      +1
      Where are the regular moderators? Throw Vitka_759 warnings to this banderlog and "disconnect" from the site constantly for inciting ethnic hatred!
  10. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 6 November 2015 15: 05 New
    +7
    Quote: Victor_759
    Heroes of New Russia are attacked by the channel of Putiners and Zionists of the Kremlin: Solovyov - Shapiro began with Strelkov

    some “heroes” of New Russia, all normal people are disappointed, and Girkin, too, would behave like a man, there would be no questions. and do not confuse Solovyov with Posner ...
  11. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 6 November 2015 15: 06 New
    +6
    Oh how. "der mirror" began to see clearly, in part. A crowd of people killed people, well, it’s separatists, they can ... But it’s not good with witnesses ... Fucking European logic.
  12. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 6 November 2015 15: 09 New
    +6
    Quote: Corsair0304
    Something too late to reproach. Where were you all the people in May 2014? Why were they silent? The dead can not be returned, the bandits who burned people alive, and the survivors were beaten with bits are now sitting in the power of Ukraine.
    Scum. Evil is not enough.


    So him Turchinov and co. immediately said that the Russians themselves burned. And Americans even gave examples of the "non-commissioned widow". Like there were precedents - "they sack themselves." It all fits ...

    But on the seventh day the "vigilant falcons" noticed that something was wrong ...
    And that’s good.
  13. cniza
    cniza 6 November 2015 15: 18 New
    +6
    Quote: NordUral
    This is not only a shame, it is a crime.



    And it went unpunished, which gives rise to the next more violent crime.
  14. askort154
    askort154 6 November 2015 15: 18 New
    +4
    The Council of Europe seems to have an “Estonian” disease. The first reaction, a year and a half after the events!
  15. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 November 2015 15: 22 New
    +6
    What is there murderous, slightly scolded for inaction. They didn’t even threaten anything, even symbolically. Full endorsement actually.
  16. knn54
    knn54 6 November 2015 15: 39 New
    21
    -48 people died.
    116 people killed. It was not the dead, but the dead. People have bullet wounds to the head.
    Most of the victims have burns on their heads and forearms - people were specifically burned with combustible materials ... so that corpses could not be identified.
  17. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 6 November 2015 15: 42 New
    10
    The two groups confronted each other that day. About 2000 Ukrainians came to the rally in support of a successful revolution on the Maidan and the "unity of the country." Among them were hooligans and nationalists from Kiev and Kharkov. On the other side were those who call themselves "Anti-Maidan": their flags were Russian flags and St. George ribbons. "Antimaydanovtsy" attacked the hooligans, and the street battle began.

    Wow, for the whole millionth of Odessa there are only 2000, and even those, as it turned out, are solid "hooligans and nationalists." Moreover, for their hard-earned people who came from Kiev and Kharkov to Odessa to "rally in support of a successful revolution on the Maidan and the" unity of the country. "And then some" anti-Maidan "prevented them from holding a" peaceful rally in support of a successful revolution on the Maidan and " unity of the country. " Just nothing - they committed a mass attack (in the name of "ideals of democracy")
    The respected geyropa silently watched as overseas breeders cultivated a new kind of aggressive “bearded monkeys” under the Islamic flag, which had already affected its well-being in the form of terrorist attacks and a mass of refugees from BV. And now she is also silently watching the work of the same breeder to breed worthy successors of the "bearded", a new species - the "crested monkeys", already under the yellow flag. It’s kind of like the geyropeyts came to their senses, but somehow timidly and shyly, with their inherent tolerance - “Fu! Nasty!”.
  18. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 6 November 2015 15: 48 New
    +4
    Quote: djqnbdjqnb
    Did the Council of Europe change orientation (doesn’t mean sexual)? I would like to ask: gentlemen, are you not late?

    We are all smooth, changed not changed. First of all, we must know and remember! And when the time comes to strangle this damned pack.
  19. exalex2
    exalex2 6 November 2015 15: 49 New
    +3
    As if someone had doubts .. Putin said “the brothers”. Then everything else is a blatant lie and not “Truth”? .. One must be careful with Words. Otherwise, they can play a cruel joke.
  20. mamont5
    mamont5 6 November 2015 16: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: Corsair0304
    Something too late to censure

    They censure cautiously. And while not forgetting to kick the dead. Say, they first started. One word is Europe.
  21. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 6 November 2015 16: 07 New
    +7
    Again, pro-Russian brigades STARTED firing a shotgun.
    Then they began to bring down the first building that came across and there they burned themselves.
    And to the back seat! Tomorrow at any point with a finger click-Vata-Separ, lynched on the spot and it doesn’t matter what your passport is.
  22. Kibl
    Kibl 6 November 2015 16: 30 New
    +3
    Again a pro-Russian man with a gun! But the banderlog is already with a machine gun, Molotov cocktail and with other "cool" gadgets !!!
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 6 November 2015 17: 07 New
      +1
      However, the "pro-Russian man" has a much more powerful and effective weapon - patriotism.
      This feeling is not familiar to Banderlogs, therefore they lose.
  23. cniza
    cniza 6 November 2015 16: 32 New
    +6
    Quote: Strezhevchanin
    Again, pro-Russian brigades STARTED firing a shotgun.



    Lies in their understanding for the good, only they can not tell anyone. Russia will always be to blame for them, their complex is like that.
  24. Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 6 November 2015 17: 58 New
    +6
    Bandera is Bandera. They have always been called podpanks in the south and east of Ukraine. They always lived under the panes and licked someone, something. They were given 70 years of normal life, but in vain. It was necessary to clean the gangrene to the end. Stalin’s big mistake was to form the Western Ukrainian SSR for this herd. Separated from Ukraine.
  25. Served once
    Served once 6 November 2015 18: 29 New
    +6
    Another thing is scary. The story repeats. Today I went to the censor. I want to wash my hands with soap and water. An entire generation of sincerely hating Russia has grown up, at the subconscious level. The sales of local elites, corruption, and the help of peddlers of "democracy" cookies have formed herds of killers. Now you can with light passes of hands to direct this whole company to the source of evil (according to their interpretation). All this, most recently 80-70 years ago. Everything repeats again. The slogans have changed or changed, the goal is unchanged. Russia (USSR) must be destroyed. Under this goal will be customized and revised historical events, turned out facts and smuggled in any falsifications. We have two Ally: Army and Navy. "Partners" will never leave us alone.
  26. The comment was deleted.
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 6 November 2015 18: 44 New
      +1
      But could anyone have suggested that this would turn out like this?
      And people completely far from military affairs, even with bats, Molotov cocktails, smooth-bore and traumatic weapons and other attributes of an urban guerilla, were unlikely to defend themselves against well-armed, fairly organized and completely frostbitten Nazis.
      The idea, although a powerful weapon, but sometimes the steel outweighs ...
  27. sounddoc
    sounddoc 6 November 2015 18: 35 New
    +8
    Especially for Victor_759: is it possible to be both a rooster and a fascist at the same time?
    Nothing personal, God forbid, just an interesting picture ...
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 6 November 2015 18: 45 New
      +3
      It’s not so badly marching. laughing
      1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 6 November 2015 21: 23 New
        +2
        And this is to the DAMAGE heap!
  28. Andrey Draganov
    Andrey Draganov 6 November 2015 19: 12 New
    +3
    Khokhlobydlo for Odessa will answer in full.
  29. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 6 November 2015 19: 41 New
    +5
    I feel sorry for Odessa.
    The population of the city is about a million! We discard half of the children and pensioners, another half of the women! 250 thousand men !!! Well, let not everyone support Kulikovo Field (I don’t think there were many!). But watch live and DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING (and just piss) ... I don’t understand!
    It's a shame for CITY HERO sad
  30. sergio3004
    sergio3004 6 November 2015 19: 52 New
    +5
    Remember, grieve.
  31. Sorokin
    Sorokin 6 November 2015 20: 15 New
    +6
    I don’t know how to describe how it feels. My grandmother and Mom were somehow born in the village of Veprik, Chernihiv region. Somehow the grandmother was stolen by the Germans in the city of Danzig, where my grandfather turned out to be after the escape and 3 pretended to be a Pole concentration camp. He was captured when the Saneshalon radio operator of a sweep gouged. 1945-47 served in Berlin. I came from there to the Veprik from the Urals and already back in the 80s I found out that I’m ka and ka. Ap and I ate all the corn and the vodka because of me the district police officer took it. It was strange to me. But it was even stranger to me that we Chelyab and Perm have always given ten Ukrainians to the special battalion? Capters and cooks. Not one armored personnel carrier, shooter, etc.
  32. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 6 November 2015 20: 30 New
    -4
    shit article
  33. samarin1969
    samarin1969 6 November 2015 20: 46 New
    +1
    Impunity breeds evil ...
  34. NyeMoNik70
    NyeMoNik70 6 November 2015 20: 47 New
    0
    http://ani-al.livejournal.com/1705540.html

    Take a look. 03.05.14/XNUMX/XNUMX.
  35. Nymp
    Nymp 6 November 2015 22: 19 New
    +1
    The European Union made a move with the knight. On the one hand, he scolded Kiev for a poor investigation, on the other, it seemed to justify the authorities themselves, saying that it had nothing to do with it. She didn’t investigate other people's guilt, but she herself wasn’t stained with blood. This is not so, and the geyrope again showed her pork snout.
  36. Stoler
    Stoler 7 November 2015 02: 12 New
    +1
    YES ... Odessa is no longer a fun city. It smacks of fear there.
  37. Balagan
    Balagan 7 November 2015 03: 32 New
    +1
    Ours will come - they will restore order. Banderlog may not even be fried, but they’ll hang it for sure!
    Everyone could see the face of fascism in Odessa, except for the gay people ...
  38. Eternal Disciple
    Eternal Disciple 8 November 2015 00: 00 New
    0
    As far as it turns out a person can be controlled. How could the dispatcher respond like this: “the fire is safe”, “we have already left” when no one left? Yes, I would go to strangle the boss so that at least something is done.
    Darkness!