Russian trucks GAZ-3308 passed exam in Syria

In photographs from Syria, Russian GAZ-3308 Sadko all-terrain vehicles appear more often than Tanks and armored personnel carriers. Trucks have proven themselves both among government forces and their enemies, writes in his article for Messenger of Mordovia Roman Katkov.

The first batch of Gas-3308 was sent to Syria 10 years ago. Before signing the contract, the Syrians made the cars hard tests. ATVs successfully coped with them. True, some improvements were made to the brake system.

According to the author, “a turbocharged diesel engine is capable of accelerating a car weighing about 6,5 tons to 100 km / h. “Sadko” can overcome the slopes of 35 degrees and the ford with a depth of 1,2 meter. ”

“Since the Syrian army practically abandoned the use of outdated BTR-60PB and OT-64 armored personnel carriers, Sadko became one of the main means for ensuring the mobility of infantry units,” the author writes.

If in the Syrian army, trucks were initially used only as a means of delivering personnel, then, falling into the hands of militants as trophies, they turned into combat vehicles equipped with large-caliber machine guns, small salvo fire systems and other weapons.

Now, as part of government troops, it is increasingly possible to see brand-new “lawns” with twin ZU-23 in the bodies.

According to the information posted on the Internet, there are currently about 200 GAZ-3308 vehicles in the Syrian army. Russian military experts are talking about much more.

“In any case, everything suggests that the Russian cars are successfully passing the exam in a war in this region,” the author concludes.

Comments

[fregina1]

Replace the portrait .... and buy into our army!

[mirag2]

Yes, in Syria, the campaign passed all our exam.

[Truth]

Hodovka GAZ-66, the motor is not moody from the tractor, and most importantly - the cabin, thank God they removed an uncomfortable shed.
In short, the car is not bad!

[Aleksandr72]

GAZ-3308 is a "shishiga" brought to mind with a normal cab and gearbox, and with a diesel engine. It is impossible to recall the "ergonomic" cab and especially the GAZ-66 gearbox with its amazingly "comfortable" gear shifting without shuddering. But on the other hand, the GAZ-66 was out of competition in cross-country ability.
And it’s best to test military equipment in combat conditions, nowhere are the drawbacks and shortcomings in the design more clearly visible than in war. But at the same time, it is highly desirable that soldiers of an alien friendly army break in this equipment, but under the close supervision of our specialists.
I have the honor.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Alexander72

with a normal cab and box,

The box was normal there, just because of the shape of the cab, the lever was in an uncomfortable place!

[shasherin.pavel]

But getting into this cabin is good until 35 years, and later some may have problems. I would refrain from such comparisons: anyway, how to compare the T-34 1941 of the year and the T-34-C (high-speed) 1943. Outwardly complete similarity, but inside we get T-34 +++.

[mitrich]

Guys, no doubt, the car is good for the army, war. Simple, nothing superfluous, repairable in the field, relatively cheap, until the first shell. In the army, these are needed.
It's bad that we have the same in civilian life, the army rules in everything. It turns out as in the song: "and you are like in a war ....". For work, our lawns (gas-53, gas-3307, gas-3709, .... etc.), KAMAZ, Urals are a quiet horror!
You can throw with ssany rags, but I, almost all my life, including the army, in the car industry. And according to Peter, he worked on lawn-tills, and walked in long-range, incl. over the hill (eastern Europe, Finca) at Kamaz. This is BDSM in its purest form.
You wish the enemy, compatriot, no.

[sergnow]

Strange, you, some kind of ... with strange rags! Why are you so opsiruy that many people respond not bad. About KamAZ and Urals I have a normal opinion, for such a price these are excellent cars. That's just spoiling them now with electronics. And the fact that I went over the hill is not an indicator. In short, don’t clever our cars for our country is exactly what you need!

[Miner]

I, too, for the sake of the fatherland, but I must note that the same "Magirus" at one time was still much better for our realities than the domestic "KamAZ".

This is a fact.

And I honestly don’t even imagine what arguments this fact can be challenged ...


PS
And also my colleagues of that time, but not "dumpers", but "timber trucks", praised the Japanese "Fuso", next to which the domestic "KrAZ", as they say, did not lie around ...

Until now, we remember the German "Magiruses" and the Japanese "Fuso" as the best examples of technology, with which fate had a chance to meet in working life.

P.P.S
The bulldozer drivers of our then "UMS" (construction mechanization department) were extremely pleased with the productivity, ease of use, and most importantly, RELIABILITY with Japanese Komatsu bulldozers.

Very, very satisfied.

This is also an indisputable fact.


In general, the phrase: "In short, do not be smart about our cars for our country the most that is needed!" does not allow him to take it seriously.

For everything is not so ... To my sincere regret :(

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: sergnow

for such a price these are excellent cars.

Actually, there should be just normal cars that can compete with others on an equal footing, a high price or a small one depends on how much the car will work for this money. When we were looking for an alternative to the ZiL, we asked for an American truck for review. So you can imagine, the Americans hired a private owner with his car and sent him to the ZIL. The machine worked for 10 years, and ours thought that they had been sent a new one.
The driver is asked: "What was being repaired?" "I changed the batteries and a complete oil change." No matter how much such a car cost, she didn't take a cent ... a cent for repairs.

[Old old]

Quote: mitrich

... I went in a long distance, incl. over the hill (eastern Europe, Finca) at Kamaz. This is BDSM in its purest form.

What prevented going to Volvo and DAF?
Or does the price-quality-cost of ownership ratio still matter?

[Old old]

Quote: mitrich

... I went in a long distance, incl. over the hill (eastern Europe, Finca) at Kamaz. This is BDSM in its purest form.

What prevented going to Volvo and DAF?
Or does the price-quality-cost of ownership ratio still matter?

[shasherin.pavel]

But in the first place it was necessary to put the "loaf".

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Alexander72

with its amazingly "comfortable" gear shifting without a shudder is impossible. But on the other hand, the GAZ-66 was out of competition in cross-country ability.

I studied at this. I was comfortable.

[sergnow]

And I worked on a "sheshiga" shift camp and I won't say anything bad, but what can I say bad about the car I drove into the taiga without any admonitions!?! And "Sadko" I think is a worthy replacement, but there the engine is already hung with electronics, and this is not good!

[goblin xnumx]

the outboard location of the engine was not from the bulldozer - weight distribution - it’s also the reason for the legendary cross-country ability — the bonnet arrangement of the new engine changes the weight distribution –– I don’t say exactly, the cross-country ability will be different — and I think it’s not for the better

[Old old]

GAZ-3308 is a "shishiga" brought to mind with a normal cab and gearbox, and with a diesel engine. It is impossible to recall the "ergonomic" cab and especially the GAZ-66 gearbox with its amazingly "comfortable" gear shifting without shuddering. But on the other hand, the GAZ-66 was out of competition in cross-country ability.

GAZ-66 is a car, created SPECIALLY for the Airborne Forces in a rigid mass-dimensional framework. It can be parachuted. "Sadko" is a good car, but not for the landing. The design of the cockpit is related to the requirements of the TK for the possibility of landing.
Remember the size of the airborne compartment of BMD and BMP. For the sake of the opportunity "from heaven to battle" you have to sacrifice something.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Nursing Old

Remember the size of the airborne compartment of BMD and BMP. For the sake of the opportunity "from heaven to battle" you have to sacrifice something.

Here you are wrong! Remember the dimensions of the BMD-3. Everything here depended on the "ship and its cargo compartment".

[science fiction writer]

Quote: Truth

Hodovka GAZ-66, the motor is not moody from the tractor, and most importantly - the cabin, thank God they removed an uncomfortable shed.
In short, the car is not bad!

We are in the north on the GAZ-66 Nissan diesel put FD-42: or -46 together with the gearbox
The car turns out There is no price.

[Name]

The same way as on the UAZ "Bukhanochka" to install the TD-27 engine with a mechanical winch. Will creep out of ANY ... situation.

[Vlvl]

It's not bad, but throw the cab. It rots in the Russian climate. And just not comfortable with bad switches and stuff.

[gav6757]

In the Soviet army, she kept all the technical exams, only after that she went into the national economy.
That is why, any breakdown could be repaired with a screwdriver and pliers !!!

[BABA SHURA]

At the same time, the efficiency on fuel consumption is simply terrible. As an example, our UAZs. Machine constructor

[avia1991]

Quote: BABA SHURA

At the same time, the efficiency on fuel consumption is simply terrible. As an example, our UAZs. Machine constructor

After I got acquainted with some samples of European military vehicles, I got a lot of respect for the UAZ .. we just have a "comfortable limousine", it turns out!

[nerd.su]

Quote: BABA SHURA

At the same time, the efficiency on fuel consumption is simply terrible. As an example, our UAZs.

Yes, not so much fuel consumption on modern UAZs in its class. Just no one rewrote the rules for fuel cancellation

[NIKNN]

nerd.su (2) SU Yesterday, 19:32
Yes, not so much fuel consumption on modern UAZs in its class. Just no one rewrote the rules for fuel cancellation smile

And thank God, salaries are also not often rewritten, at least something to compensate for, should this injustice. Then it would be time to pay extra for savings (and not a penny, but real), then the expense would greatly surprise everyone.

[sergnow]

Yes, what are you saying, old woman?! UAZ on fuel and lubricants normally fits in and the designer blurted out something awkward. Take similar foreign ones and compare if you make sure that our dzhipyars lose in nothing and are not inferior. Well, you don’t have to open a bazaar is in the courtyard with friends for sevens nonsense ...

[NIKNN]

mirag2 (4) RU November 5, 2015 12:29
Yes, in Syria, the campaign passed all our exam.

Everything that has passed the test in Russia will withstand the campaign everywhere.

[subbtin.725]

There is a lot of running-in in real combat conditions.

[gjv]

Quote: subbtin.725

There is a lot of running-in in real combat conditions.

Of D-30 Fucked and eat pomegranates. Then T-72B pulled up. Shilku charge. Of PM-43 pulled a mink. The house has an Orthodox icon. Passenger cars and motorbikes are not ours along the road. And here BMP-2 our.

[Tor5]

And what? the machine is good ... at all times!

[Sweles]

Our army abandoned these gas engines; at the summer exhibition of armaments, these MOs sold for cheap; therefore, the lack of demand for our army turned out to be in demand for the Syrian army, as well as the old Kalash, T55, all that had long been stored in the arms depots went to Syria for war.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Sveles

Our army abandoned these gaziks

So in the American army of World War II it is not possible to see motorcycles that were widely used by the Germans, somewhat less than K.A. The Russian army goes to a different degree of existence when the miserable is not quoted.

[Ruslan]

armored, armored, they must be armored. it’s suitable for such exercises, but armor is needed for war. and even without Syria, it was known that Russian trucks are good drivers.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: fregina1

Portrait to replace .... and purchase in our army

We refused them, in Syria now those same cars. What we wrote off.

[Sid.74]

Sadko SA has not only animals, but also elephants.

Syrian Arab Army strikes IS positions in Dar'a with Elephant rockets

[EGOrkka]

...... GAZ elephants ..... not a weak argument !!! and the car ..... will endure a lot ...... including gasoline ... not euro .... and wire repairs. And whatever the "clever guys" say ..... the car is ... the MACHINE

[oleg-gr]

Another portion of positive advertising, which may affect the sale of GAZ products.

[Russian Uzbek]

"Sadko" is a development of the late 80s! these machines were supposed to replace the gas-90 in the 66s, but for reasons known to all, they did not grow together ...
GAZ tried to launch these trucks in a series for a very long time

[Vladimirets]

The same "shishiga" with the dviglom brought forward.

[avt]

Quote: Vladimirets

The same "shishiga" with the dviglom brought forward.

That, but not that.

Quote: fregina1

Replace the portrait .... and buy into our army!

Already a new range of models with a single cab and for the Urals also the GAZ group issued.

[LukaSaraev]

Have you heard anything about the "meter of life"?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: LukaSaraev

I haven't heard anything about the "meter of life"

And why are you doing this?

[16112014nk]

Does the approximate length of the engine mean nothing?

[Truth]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: LukaSaraev
I haven't heard anything about the "meter of life"
And why are you doing this?

This is because in lateral projection, from the front bumper to the driver's "Faberge" is exactly one meter.
In a head-on collision, drove if survives, then 100% crippled.

This applies specifically to the GAZ-66.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: 16112014nk

Does the approximate length of the engine mean nothing?

Quote: Truth

This is because in lateral projection, from the front bumper to the driver's "Faberge" is exactly one meter.
In a head-on collision drove if survives, then 100% cripple.

I know about the driver’s saying, I don’t understand how sideways she is to my first post? If I wrote

Quote: Vladimirets

with forward dviglom.

[Truth]

Quote: Vladimirets

I know about the driver’s saying, I don’t understand how sideways she is to my first post? If I wrote
Quote: Vladimirets
with forward dviglom.

And nobody touched the motor, where it was and stayed there, there was a layout - a cabin above the engine (GAZ-66), became - a cabin behind the engine (GAZ-3308).

What are we arguing about?

[svd-xnumx]

And nobody touched the motor, where it was and stayed there, there was a layout - a cabin above the engine (GAZ-66), became - a cabin behind the engine (GAZ-3308).

And the center of gravity has also changed and the car can "take" greater slopes.

[AlexeyL]

Not a collision, but an explosion.

[LukaSaraev]

Thank. That is exactly what I had in mind. Guys. there was an Afghan. Forgot ?

[shasherin.pavel]

There is a video where our generals are checking a foreign APC for detonation with a dummy. When the front wheel hits, the mannequin is in the sieve. "Here, look" - say our people and drive the Urals to undermine. Run over with the left front wheel on a mine, the dummy is intact. Rear wheel collision - Ural has lost a wheel and continues to move. There are also Novosti chronicles, when the police are trying to stop the Urals with a drunk driver: Makarov five shots at the door of the Urals and not a single penetration. The operator showed the door in close-up - only dents.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Truth

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: LukaSaraev
I haven't heard anything about the "meter of life"
And why are you doing this?

This is because in lateral projection, from the front bumper to the driver's "Faberge" is exactly one meter.
In a head-on collision, drove if survives, then 100% crippled.

This applies specifically to the GAZ-66.

Not only this, with a mine blast on the 66th, the death of the driver or passenger is almost guaranteed, where the cabin is shifted back, the chance to survive is much greater!

[tor11121]

head-on collision is more likely for civilians. In the shishig, the driver's seat was on the wheel, with a mine blast you understand what is happening. The cabin is hinged in terms of engine maintenance, it’s much more convenient, I lifted it and here it is, the whole engine. , all better than cancer under the hood. So everywhere its pros and cons.

[Kadex]

Quote: Truth

In a head-on collision ...

Well, the problem here was not this, but the explosion of a mine under these same "Faberge".

[Down House]

Quote: Truth

This is because in lateral projection, from the front bumper to the driver's "Faberge" is exactly one meter.
In a head-on collision, drove if survives, then 100% crippled.

And the hood in this case has nothing to do with it.
1. Impact in 99% of cases below the Faberge line and in 80% in the wheel, and then usually leave the road and turn over.
2. There is a "non-deformable" frame, with a powerful accident the body either flies off the frame, or the body is intact, and the carrier sits in it "like a living".
3. Therefore, the hood itself in an accident does not play a role, but only affects undermining.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Vladimirets

And why are you doing this?

Who went on the 66th, he will understand!

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Vladimirets

And why are you doing this?

In a loaf, the blow falls on the driver, and in 469 on the engine, this is called "an extra meter of life". It was because of this that the 66th was also removed from civilian life.

[Amurets]

Quote: Vladimirets

The same "shishiga" with the dviglom brought forward.

Yes and wrong. In geological exploration, this car proved to be excellent, but only a diesel option. From the first, gasoline was disposed of as soon as the cars ran 120-150 thousand kilometers. Diesel engines have lower fuel consumption, much higher traction moment due to long connecting rods and a five-speed gearbox. Disadvantages were noted right away. Yes, uncomfortable seats, especially when you had to change the driver, he really didn’t have to rest. Sadko polnostyu.Tam shaft where a diesel engine is easily passed, then laden shishiga and gasoline Sadko could zastryat.Dviglo and also differs in the piston and golovke.S car he pulls better.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Vladimirets

The same "shishiga"

cockpit shifted back!

[Barboskin]

Decent receiver GAZ-66.

[DobryAAH]

Well done! Still, to restore ZIL, for competition, at a new technological level and not in the center of Moscow.

[Armored optimist]

Alas! ZIL kirdyk unambiguous! As a builder, I know about development plans for his entire territory. Housing, business centers, shopping centers.

[Amurets]

Quote: armored optimist

Alas! ZIL kirdyk unambiguous! As a builder, I know about development plans for his entire territory. Housing, business centers, shopping centers.

Question? Was it planned to transfer production to Yartsevo, was the engine plant ready there?

[Tusv]

Quote: Good AAAH

Well done! Still, to restore ZIL, for competition, at a new technological level and not in the center of Moscow.

So this is Kamaz

[Bayonet]

Quote: Good AAAH

Still, to restore ZIL, for competition, at a new technological level

Yes, make him a decent cabin, and then some sort of barn - the old 130th was much more elegant. Here gazovtsy made a beauty!

[creak]

Quote: Good AAAH

Still, to restore ZIL, for competition, at a new technological level and not in the center of Moscow.

In the subject of ZIL.
At one time, ZIL 157 trucks formed the basis of the automobile troops of the Egyptian army - they proved to be just fine, despite the simply barbaric operating conditions (sandstorms, the corresponding "level" of skill of local drivers and repairmen, etc.) And in terms of cross-country ability in the desert, where everything gets stuck in the sand, he simply had no equal ... (The attitude towards GAZ 66 was more restrained.)
I know this not from other people's words, since I had the opportunity to travel a lot on them during my service in a group of military advisers ...

[mitrich]

So ZIL 157 is a Soviet tracing paper from Studebaker, in its purest form. So thanks to the technical genius of Amer.

[beer-youk]

My young friend! Before throwing such remarks, study the materiel! If the ZiS - 151 is still purely outwardly (the filling is different) can be pulled by the ears to the legendary "Studer", then the ZiL - 157 has nothing in common with it, including fasteners (bolts, nuts, rivets, etc.). And, by the way, about tracing paper, the American "Tucker-Torpedo" - the sales champion of 1948 - is the GAZ-20 "Pobeda" (the beginning of the design in 1944, the launch in the series - 1945) on a 1 to 1 scale.

[mitrich]

For a young man, thanks, flattered, moved ... Maybe not tracing paper, but it is taken as a prototype, no doubt.
And what is not seamless ... licensed in our automobile industry? Virtually everything. Gas, Moskvich, Vaz, Kamaz. Everything is foreign. Let's do it without false jingoism.

[theodore rasp]

Why so abruptly? It's just that this citizen watched films about the war of the 80-90s, where the roles of the Studebakers were played by the ZIL 157s. And constructive differences, often fundamental, are known and interesting only to auto specialists and auto-fanatics. And for the amateur - 3 bridges and burdock wings - this is "Studer" without options! And by the way, "Tucker-Torpedo" has rear lights of a different shape than "Pobeda", so, for information!

[Down House]

Quote: beer-youk

American "Tucker-Torpedo" - the sales champion of 1948 - this is GAZ-20 "Pobeda"

You are confusing something.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_(%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B1
%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C)

[NIKNN]

Down House RU Yesterday, 15:03
Quote: beer-youk
American "Tucker-Torpedo" - the sales champion of 1948 - this is GAZ-20 "Pobeda"

You are confusing something.

You are absolutely right. these cars do not stand nearby, which only the engines stand, and the outline is very much approximate, the style of those years, no more, like a bunch.

[tolancop]

Can not be!!! I would never have thought .... Single-tire rear tire on ZIL and 2-pitched on Studer. The tire inflation system on Amer was not at all, as far as I know ... Rummaging around, there are still many differences. Of course, there is a similarity: both trucks, both with 6 wheels and four-wheel drive. The bodies are very similar. But by these signs, the student can be recognized as tracing paper from our ZiS-6 ...
Studer - a good car for its time. A ZIL-157 - an unforgettable truck !!!

[mitrich]

Well, look, hurray-patriots, what remains of purely domestic in our automobile industry now? Only arguments are not necessary: ​​here the bumper was replaced, the brakes were strengthened, and here, hoo-hoo !!!, already squeezed the domestic gearbox. Also say that, for example, GAZ-66, GAZ-69, a purely Soviet development ...
Do not turn into dill, it’s them, Poroshenko dissects on a domestic, independent letak ...

[mitrich]

Well, look, hurray-patriots, what remains of purely domestic in our automobile industry now? Only arguments are not necessary: ​​here the bumper was replaced, the brakes were strengthened, and here, hoo-hoo !!!, already squeezed the domestic gearbox. Also say that, for example, GAZ-66, GAZ-69, a purely Soviet development ...
Do not turn into dill, it’s them, Poroshenko dissects on a domestic, independent letak ...

[DenZ]

It's nice to see Russian technology under the Syrian banners.

[ussrex]

And it’s even more pleasant when Russian equipment is under Russian banners!

[bad]

our technique is not used to off-road and extreme operation ..

[Lis_Domino]

and this is bad, I would like to drive on good roads and without extreme

[Amurets]

Quote: Lis_Domino

and this is bad, I would like to drive on good roads and without extreme

I agree with you, but this car was created for off-road use. We had one geological section, so it could be reached by swamps on a tractor or on the Gaz-3308 or KAMAZ-43118, other cars could not pass without a swamp tractor. So these are 80 kilometers KAMAZ and a sick tractor took 8-9 hours. Sadly due to the lower weight in 5,5-6 hours.

[Altona]

Replace the portrait .... and buy into our army!
----------------------
It will not work, it has been discontinued .. "Lawn Next" has come to replace it - this is already a car-kosmolit, filled with foreign content and with a plastic face ... And this "GAZ-3308" from Soviet times was created as an automobile for the village, completely a metal cabin so that you can fix it by simple welding, simple and cheap parts, everything is very Spartan, but everything is for ease of maintenance ... Good cars, long-suffering and unpretentious ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: Altona

It will not work, out of production .. Replaced by "Lawn Next"

Next - too "glamorous" for the army. There is one optics worth something! For a civilian, that's the thing, but for the army, 3308 is better.

[Altona]

Quote: Bayonet

Next - too "glamorous" for the army. There is one optics worth something! For a civilian, that's the thing, but for the army, 3308 is better.

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For the army, at one time, they made a ZIL-131 on 92 gasoline, in order to ride around Europe, also with a simplified cab with chopped shapes ... And "Lawn Next", of course, not for the army, for a citizen ...

[kultiapin]

The car is excellent, it’s that the sands of the desert, that the snow of the Arctic, all one thing.

[Mama_Cholli]

Unfortunately, a considerable% of GAZ sales goes to the pocket of the oligarch O. Deripaska, who did not go to the pot when GAZ released its products in the USSR.

[Vishnevsky]

Shakes in the back of this "Sadko" so that you can give your soul to God. On the roads kidneys may well come off.

[v1tz]

Well so, unpretentious car, jumped and went, what else is needed in the war ...

[Maksus]

Sadko is a good car. The cabin is far superior in terms of comfort to shishigu - the seats are comfortable, the gear lever is not behind, the clutch is synchronized. Plus hood layout. For the rear services - that’s it!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Maksus

synchronized clutch

??? Maybe all the same box?

[AdekvatNICK]

purely workhorse. Without pontov. Performs a task. As in advertising would say "no time to break"

[Maksus]

Yes, even if it breaks, it is easily repaired by a hand-held fighter. Proven in practice.

[individual]

In Syria, you can run in everything you need: weapons, equipment, politics, and the army.

[Wolka]

fishless fish and cancer, but generally credited, as in Russian traditions, cheap and cheerful ...

[donavi49]

So the answer is simple, that they bought it and they are fighting ... True, the broads respect the car, even they installed the GRAD on it.

[Down House]

Quote: donavi49

True and the broads respect the car, even the city was mounted on it.

And what is the accuracy of such a Grad interesting on such a light chassis?

[Camel]

But no! They don’t care what to shell at home, schools, hospitals, just to get into the city.

[Fibrizio]

Then they drive on trucks not from a good life. An APC is eating more fuel. With fuel strained. There were articles, tanks were also transported by truck to the front line.

[last joke]

Quote: Fibrizio

Then they drive on trucks not from a good life. An APC is eating more fuel. With fuel strained. There were articles, tanks were also transported by truck to the front line.

So that’s normal. The tank should only ride on the battlefield - the chassis, however, the resource is the fastest. And its repair is not a tank to refuel

[zadorin1974]

Syrians drive trucks because of the absence of these armored personnel carriers. At one time, Syria bought BTR 40 and BTR-152. When their resource began to go to zero, our BTR-60 bought it. From the sixties, the Syrians honestly were quickly upset, two benzyl engines drove the mood For this reason, they were quickly sent for storage. By the time of the conflict, sixty had turned into scrap metal. The first BTR-80 appeared after the operation to destroy chemical weapons (ours left), which are now being used to their fullest. Well and the last N-82A.
at the expense of transporting tanks to the forefront, the Syrians are just fine fellows, they are saving the resource of the fleet of armored vehicles that has been reduced by the four-year war.

[Arharynets]

After Gaz66, the car is really very convenient, but as a person operating the Gas 33081 for four years in very harsh conditions, I can add:
1. The D245 engine is unpretentious and reliable enough, but because of the powerful torque it constantly cuts the crosses on the industrial shaft (56 thousand mileage, 16 crosses), when installing a more powerful cardan, it breaks the razdatka.
2. The brake system is one minus.
3.Body-tin can made by Krivoruk "masters" (cannot be compared with Soviet ones from gas66)
4. Permeability-0t gas 66 is better only in snow. Dirt, sand due to the increased weight of the "muzzle" and a stronger engine digs in itself.
5. And the main thing is the quality of the metal - all from rawhide.
As always, a good idea and fun performance.

[Mama_Cholli]

The only expert commentary on the case.
It’s too early to rejoice ... There is still work to do.

[Amurets]

Quote: Arkharinets

As always, a good idea and fun performance.

Countryman in many ways you are right, but I hear about the crosses for the first time. Where our lawns didn’t go to the crosses, there were usually no complaints. The brake system agrees. For the metal I agree completely, even the first gasoline ones were much stronger. cars, bodies, cabs and something else were taken away, but there weren’t much complaints except complaints about the frame. Between the cab and the body, the frame often burst near the fuel tank bracket.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Arkharinets

As always, a good idea and fun performance.

I wonder how long does this last? Does the plant do anything to eliminate the identified shortcomings or nevermind? I’m sure that in a nightmare I don’t dream that the plant will eliminate the design defect at its own expense, and let’s recall the car for repair …… ..

[Down House]

Quote: Arkharinets

1. The D245 engine is unpretentious and reliable enough, but because of the powerful torque it constantly cuts the crosses on the industrial shaft (56 thousand mileage, 16 crosses), when installing a more powerful cardan, it breaks the razdatka.

And the question is, what were they thinking when they put such a powerful engine on a standard transmission?
And yet, you did not write anything about the frame, is it really good?

[deaddakon]

competent commentary by the operator)

[Arharynets]

This tendency (quality of parts) is observed in almost all equipment newly supplied to the subdivisions. Kroilovo harms the defense industry worse than many "partners" with purchases. If earlier the "knocked-out star" was the main quality mark, now there is no guarantee as such at all. "illiquid" by sawing the dough was pushed into the Armed Forces. And all in all, you need to adopt a law like in China, army equipment broke down through the fault of the manufacturer - there is only one article: undermining the defenses and treason. ...

[Clueless]

Quote: Alexander72

GAZ-3308 is a "shishiga" brought to mind with a normal cab and gearbox, and with a diesel engine. It is impossible to recall the "ergonomic" cab and especially the GAZ-66 gearbox with its amazingly "comfortable" gear shifting without shuddering. But on the other hand, the GAZ-66 was out of competition in cross-country ability.

And of the lowest quality, the constantly rotting cabin is worth it, and the frame too :) And by the way, shishigi before perestroika have a current rust at the rear of the cabin in the wing area maximum (there is such a bad feature) - because they knew how to paint and use normal metal.

And the installation of a winch on a cage, this is generally a joke - the bumper sticks out generally in order to make it like on the 66th, you have to redo the whole mug yourself.

[Zaurbek]

In Syria, a direct competitor is Toyota Hilux. And for the money and for the purpose. And the Lawn is lucky better, more and everywhere.

[Robert Nevsky]

We will already call them "Syrians" ...

[Yak-3P]

gas 66 was developed by a woman .. got Lenpremia (and this is not a little in the USSR) but !!! GOOD apparatus .. not unimaginable kanesh .. and even the Urals with 131 ahead .. so the 4th honorable and still light .. 3-5 tons of electric winch is enough .. but less than 10 CTs are not enough for the same ural

[tolancop]

Quote: mitrich

For a young man, thanks, flattered, moved ... Maybe not tracing paper, but it is taken as a prototype, no doubt.
And what is not seamless ... licensed in our automobile industry? Virtually everything. Gas, Moskvich, Vaz, Kamaz. Everything is foreign. Let's do it without false jingoism.

MAZ-543, VAZ-2121 "Niva", UAZ-469 ... Continue?

[Arharynets]

Shishiga received not only Lenpreem, but also an international prize for installing a CV joint on a truck. When working on the 66th, I always remembered her chief designer as I compared the landing in it with a gynecological chair. Compare gas 66 and 33081 with 131 and the Urals, especially Hilux is somehow not correct. This is a car of a completely different class and different functional tasks. In this niche we had a very interesting development - a zil with a cab from a bull-calf with the same 245 engine and vertical drive axles. The car was somewhat reminiscent of Unimog. It is a pity that I did not go into the series.

[Down House]

Quote: Arkharinets

vertical drive axles

Are you talking about wheel gears, or what?

[AlexVas44]

Quote: Arkharinets

Shishiga received not only Lenpreem, but also an international award for the installation of SHRUS on a truck.

It is not clear what the international award is for? SHRUS, i.e. constant velocity joint, used on trucks since the appearance of leading axles with steered wheels on them.

[Former tank crew]

In fact, nothing new has been invented. A bonnet version was made on the same chassis. Plus a serial version with a diesel engine. GAZ drivers are great, they feel what the army and people need! Take Volga, for example. If such has outlived itself as a class, there it is. You have to do what you do well, these are our harsh realities.

[python2a]

Better not to come up with advertising.

[mosquito]

Photo 2012-2013. They probably weren't left, I'm talking about cars ...
Pay attention to the equipment of the personnel, only the beginning of the civil war. Pay attention to faces, everyone is cheerful and confident ...

[Balbesoid]

Quote: avia1991

Quote: BABA SHURA

At the same time, the efficiency on fuel consumption is simply terrible. As an example, our UAZs. Machine constructor

After I got acquainted with some samples of European military vehicles, I got a lot of respect for the UAZ .. we just have a "comfortable limousine", it turns out!

Right In the American praise in front of a tarp, behind a wooden bench - at least in the form in which we got from Canada!

[lecturer]

"The lawn is cute!" And something like a military "lorry" looks like (?) Perhaps by Russian heritage, with the same persistence overcomes the Syrian military paths!

[tolancop]

Quote: Leshy74

the outboard location of the engine was not from the bulldozer - weight distribution - it’s also the reason for the legendary cross-country ability — the bonnet arrangement of the new engine changes the weight distribution –– I don’t say exactly, the cross-country ability will be different — and I think it’s not for the better

Not only weight distribution requirements gave the GAZ-66 a cabin above the engine. I have read many times that the development of the "shishiga" went under the requirements of the airborne troops and it was required to fit the car into a certain size in order to fit on the plane

[Old old]

Quote: ruslan

armored, armored, they must be armored. it’s suitable for such exercises, but armor is needed for war. and even without Syria, it was known that Russian trucks are good drivers.

Do you propose replacing an armored personnel carrier (vehicle for delivering vehicles to the line of contact with the enemy) or infantry fighting vehicles (vehicle on the battlefield and direct support) with an armored truck?
Or do you mean by war a conflict of low intensity, guerilla?
And even in this case, it is necessary to book a car carrying l / s. In other cases, the considerable weight of the armor eats up the payload. A war is the transportation of not only people, but also a large number of various cargoes: ammunition, spare parts, products, water, etc., etc.

[CRASH]

The news is one better than the other, you still about IZ motorcycles in Colombia write an article how they withstand fat asses, an exam.

[Chauffeur]

At the 66th, there were hooks on the window racks, for a hanging gomak, in which you can sleep, unlike 33

[Alexstrigin]

Our equipment will pass all exams.

[serge siberian]

back in the late 70s, being a kid, I heard from a 157 adult on a air filter that kapron tights were put on and forward along the sands.
about the metal for the cab: in the 90s pros.ra.listalevars of Russian! banned high-quality brands to smelting European tycoons! here we are doing the interstate agreement. that’s where the legs grow from.