Russian unpredictability instilled fear in the hearts of Western generals

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The US Army intends to increase the number of troops and military equipment in Europe. The reason is clear: Moscow allegedly worsened "revanchist" moods. Some commanders who settled in Europe seem to be nostalgic for the Cold War: the Western press writes that 28 thousands of US military are based on the continent, and during the Cold War there were three hundred thousand of them. Some Western generals believe that Moscow is "preparing for offensive operations."



In the edition "Stars and Stripes" There was a report by John Vandiver, transmitted from Wiesbaden (Germany).

The correspondent notes that the US Army is reviewing the structure of its armed forces in Europe in order to effectively confront "revanchist Russia." This was announced by the publication of the head of the US Army in Europe Mark Milli himself.

The other day there was a meeting in which more than thirty European army generals participated. Milli believes that the era of "the steady reduction of" forces in Europe should be stopped. “No, we do not need to deploy forces at the level of the Cold War or do anything like that,” Milli said in an interview. “But at the same time, we want to make sure that we have enough opportunities to deter further aggression from Russia.”

Checking the army units for compliance with the new challenges of time in Europe does not yet have a deadline. One thing is known: according to its results recommendations will be presented to the Pentagon. In turn, they must approve the White House.

Earlier, last year, after Russia's intervention in the situation in Ukraine, the newspaper notes, the US military strengthened its presence in Europe: there were more ships, airplanes and ground forces in the region, despite budgetary restrictions.

And yet, the reduction of military forces in the region for more than two decades has meant that approximately 300000 people who did their duty in Europe during the Cold War left only about 28000 soldiers.

The command of the US armed forces in Europe is looking for ways to demonstrate strength and show the ability of the army to concentrate, if necessary, large forces in the Baltic states and Poland. The publication recalls that recently delivered about 250 tanks and units of other heavy equipment will eventually be placed in NATO countries at the borders of Russia. Milli said he expects an increase in the presence of troops in the region based on rotation.

The West is seriously worried about the “Russian military operations” that spread from Eastern Europe to the Mediterranean Sea and went beyond it. Moscow has deployed a large number of ships in the Mediterranean Sea and recently actively intervenes in the situation in Syria (air strikes against the positions of the "Islamic State" and against opponents of the regime of Bashar al-Assad, the newspaper notes).

During the conference in Wiesbaden, the deployment of military forces by Moscow in recent years has just become the focus of discussion. Millie considers Russia a military threat to the United States.

Russia's intervention in the situation in Ukraine and Syria, the journalist writes, showed how radically Russian carried out military reforms after the short war with Georgia in 2008, at the very time when the United States and its European allies still “enjoyed” a decisive military advantage over Moscow land forces, naval and air forces.

The generals are saddened, and this is why: it turns out, Moscow is using its geographic location. In the short term, the Russians can "quickly crush NATO allies in the Baltic countries, who have rather limited defense capabilities and are isolated from the main NATO forces."

The European Council on Foreign Relations believes that military escalation on the European continent is hardly inevitable, but "it cannot be excluded." One expert in the reports concluded that Europe and the United States had underestimated the military reforms in Russia: "Russia is clearly preparing for offensive operations."

As for Mr. Milli, he believes that it is difficult to guess what the next step of Moscow will be, but the modernized army of Russia and the “newest story interventions in Ukraine "are suggestive ..." This demonstrates the possible behavior of (Russia) in the future, "said a military official. And if the Russians are not “curbed”, it will all end “badly.” “I don’t know,” he said, “what Russia will do in the future, no one knows. But I know what they have been doing since 2008, and I know my capabilities. And this is a cause for concern. ”

Moscow, Mr. Millie, does not advise "to underestimate the capabilities of 28 of NATO states", as well as the "collective advantages" of the alliance in firepower. “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.

Recall that not only the United States, but also Great Britain and Germany plan to deploy troops in the Baltic States - not on a permanent basis, but on a rotational basis, without formally violating the agreement concluded with Moscow during the Cold War. Rotation of military personnel in the units will allow the alliance to keep troops near the borders of the Russian Federation almost constantly.

A month ago, the NATO Council of Ministers of Defense decided to double the number of “rapid reaction” forces in Europe. Their command centers are established in Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland and Romania.

In addition, NATO is concerned about the launch of Russian missiles at targets in Syria. In October, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg himself spoke on this subject, speaking to NATO defense ministers in Brussels.

He said NATO’s readiness to protect its allies, "including Turkey, from any threats." “We intend to analyze the situation in Syria,” he said, and noted that NATO is observing “a significant increase in capabilities” of Russia in Syria, which “causes concern.”

So, NATO sees Russia’s aspirations for “revanchism” all around: first Ukraine, then Syria. The hint of the military is transparent: the generals imply that the Kremlin has decided to restore the former power of the USSR, and this should not be allowed to happen. Therefore, in the discussions at the level of commanders of American forces in Europe and the NATO defense ministers constantly see through the “Baltic” themes - they say, the Baltic countries have “rather limited defense capabilities”. The Western military and Russian unpredictability are afraid: “no one knows” what Moscow will do next.

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  1. +67
    3 November 2015 05: 53
    Mr. Milli does not advise "underestimating the capabilities of 28 NATO states"

    Let Baba advise her! Well, or who is there with him?
    1. +28
      3 November 2015 06: 15
      Quote: Corporal Valera
      Let Baba advise her! Well, or who is there with him?

      It is they from the duality of feelings. One of which is fear, the other is a thirst for money. Accustomed in the West to cut loot from all budgets. Yes, so cut that the rest of the world never dreamed of.
      Nothing, citizens of NATO, you have no time to feast — there are more debts and less sales. Capitalism, this cannibalistic model for the development of MANKIND, is ending. And there we will build a just society without isms and craters.
      1. +24
        3 November 2015 06: 40
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Accustomed in the West to cut loot from all budgets.

        Throw a freshie:
        FoxNews on the main page highlights another corruption scandal: $ 800 million allocated by the US Department of Defense to equip facilities in Afghanistan under the Task Force for Stability and Business Operations (TFBSO) program, did not share where. The program was closed in March 2015, people ran away. Although something can be found. Here we found a gas engine fuel station (CNG) in the city of Shiborgan. Over the period 2011-2014, $ 42,7 million was spent on construction, including OK. 12,3 million dollars direct costs and $ 30 million overhead costs. The inspector, John Sopko, special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction (SIGAR), said that the cost of building a similar facility in neighboring Pakistan is half a million dollars.

        The TFBSO program was directly subordinate to the Secretary of Defense [now Ashton Carter, who, it seems, immediately closed the bench. But FoxNews reporters are trying to link his name with the program]. The TFBSO team was formed in 2003. in Iraq and since 2009 was transferred to Afghanistan.

        From an official letter from the Deputy Minister of Defense: "the closure of TFBSO in March 2015 and departure of all its employees have resulted in the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) no longer possessing the personnel expertise to address these questions or to assess properly the TFBSO information and documentation retained by WHS in the OSD Executive Archive. " "The closure of the program in March 2015 and the departure of all employees has led to the fact that the office of the Minister of Defense no longer has the expertise to answer questions or proper access to [design, estimate and as-built] documentation."

        The most expensive gas station in the world, Shiborgan, Afghanistan:
        1. +27
          3 November 2015 07: 17
          Quote: GRAY

          Throw a freshie:
          FoxNews on the main page highlights another corruption scandal: $ 800 million allocated by the US Department of Defense to equip facilities in Afghanistan under the Task Force for Stability and Business Operations (TFBSO) program, did not share where. The program was closed in March 2015, people ran away.

          Wah, thank you, dear comrade! Yes good

          Oh, liberalism and other all-crawlers !!! Where are you??? request
          How did you cut the 800 million evergreen American Tugriks in the country of exemplary shit democracy, bringing peace to all the peoples of the planet? fool laughing
          You, fabulous morons, only in Russia you see the bad!

          So liberoid Babchenko told you directly that the West is guilty of economic problems.
          “And the regimes in our time are not felled by tank columns, but by the collapse of the economy. All these conversations that we impose sanctions not against the people, but against the regime, that we are not fighting the people of Iraq, Korea or Russia, which we respect and believe that it deserves more, but with the regime of Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong-un or Vladimir Putin’s are all fairy tales for the poor. The collapse of the regime is only possible the economic collapse of the entire population, the collapse of the economy of the whole country».


          Hence the economic war declared by Russia by the West.
          1. +12
            3 November 2015 09: 10
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            You, fabulous morons, only in Russia you see the bad!
            good
            In mine, they don’t see anything at all, they invented it themselves, they believed it, some sectarians.
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Hence the economic war declared by Russia by the West.

            These fairy-tale characters, until they got their own government together with the west, is at war with the Russian Federationwassat
            Here you will listen: the West hisses "Putin is evil", the locals whine "Putin's government is evil", in reality we are thinking about the VKS, Caliber, we have already forgotten the Crimea and clearly understand which one of them is a "bad person" laughing .
            1. +7
              3 November 2015 09: 57
              Yesterday there was an article (I don’t remember what it was called), in particular, article 5 of the NATO charter was discussed there. Namely, in the event of an attack:

              “In the exercise of the right to individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, it will assist a Contracting Party that has suffered, or Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by immediately carrying out such individual or joint action as it considers necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region. ”

              And this is really a big problem for them. Even from a psychological point of view. The countries of the European part of NATO, in themselves, are small, small states. And in the case (God forbid of course) of an armed clash with Russia, each of them can be crushed in one stroke, without prolonged hostilities.

              First of all, this explains the pathological need for each other. This is the need to create various alliances and alliances among themselves. So, they become bigger and stronger, well, at least, they think so.

              But they have no firm belief that in the event of an armed conflict with Russia, they will all rally immediately. A hypothetical, one powerful (air, missile, etc.) strike on one or several members of the Alliance, can demoralize and withdraw others from the game.

              Of course, one cannot underestimate it, but still Europeans are people for whom, as history has shown, it is often better to miss an opportunity than to put yourself at risk.
              1. +6
                4 November 2015 01: 22
                Quote: _Vladislav_
                And in the case (God forbid of course) of an armed clash with Russia, each of them can be crushed in one stroke, without prolonged hostilities.

                I remember at the turn of the 1970s and 1980s, Western military analysts tried to calculate the situation in the event of a hypothetical start of a major war in Europe. They believed, believed, and it turned out that within 2 days after the start of the "war" Soviet tanks from the GSVG would stand on the bank of the English Channel, blocking the entire northern coast of Central Europe. Well, by the end of the 2nd week, the entire territory of modern Europe (together with foggy Albion) would have been under the heel of the Soviet occupation.
                By the way! This version came out precisely at a time when various US garrisons for 300 thousand bayonets were scattered in Europe. Actually, the United States itself in that "hypothetical conflict" was assigned the role of gallant guys - liberators, who in about the same 2 or 3 weeks would have to try to land on the shores of Europe when fully equipped and more than ready-ready Soviet armed forces were waiting for them. wassat
                1. win
                  +6
                  4 November 2015 11: 06
                  already 2 days after the start of the "war" Soviet tanks from the GSVG would have stood on the bank of the English Channel

                  And now Russian tanks will not stand on the English Channel
                  After a nuclear strike will not be English Channel!
                  As there will be no England and the opposite shore
            2. +26
              3 November 2015 10: 03
              Quote: SPACE
              In mine, they don’t see anything at all, they invented it themselves, they believed it, some sectarians.

              Namely, morons, you walk, they are morons everywhere.
              And, after all, they believe that this is a fence around the Shoigu cottage !!! fool wassat laughing
          2. -8
            3 November 2015 10: 26
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Oh, liberalism and other all-crawlers !!! Where are you??? How did you cut the 800 million evergreen American Tugriks in the country of exemplary shit democracy, bringing peace to all the peoples of the planet?

            It’s better to discuss the cuts about kickbacks in your country. Think of Serdyukov with Vasilyeva, of Peskov’s watch.
            And yes, compare the standard of living in the United States and Russia. That's when the standard of living in the Russian Federation reaches the standard of living in the USA, when okoloputinsky thieves will be punished in practice, when the investigation will ask where the Putin’s spokesperson has an hour worth several of his annual rather big salaries, then you’ll talk and hang up, in rapture, shortcuts.
            1. +12
              3 November 2015 11: 03
              Quote: anip
              about Peskov’s watch.

              You better think about yours.

              Quote: anip
              And yes, compare the standard of living in the United States and Russia.

              I have already told you that in the United States a sickly sick population and everything is in debt, like the Western countries themselves, which built their well-being on the robbery of others.
              Russia lives in abundance and unlike ZapadLa.



              Quote: anip
              That's when the standard of living in Russia reaches the standard of living in the United States

              I strongly hope that Russia will NEVER become such a country!

              You can’t think with money, about money, in categories of money and live for money !!! fool
              1. +11
                3 November 2015 11: 51
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                You can’t think with money, about money, in categories of money and live for money !!!


                Well, what about affordable and quality education, medical care, housing, can you dream of?
                Let all this be even paid, but affordable enough ...

                Not about money, most of us think when we talk about the "standard of living", or rather, not about them alone ...
                1. +4
                  3 November 2015 12: 03
                  Quote: Good Me
                  Well, what about affordable and quality education, medical care, housing, can you dream of?

                  People here DO NOT WANT to study, they want to get "crusts" and planktonize.

                  Besides.
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  Quote: IAlex
                  I want to improve my health in a good hospital

                  Medicine has not returned health to anyone, and disabled people, chronic patients, are producing well. So do not flatter yourself.
                  Heart attacks in people do not arise from a lack of validol in the blood.

                  I set the traumatology and related rehabilitation things separately as they explicitly correct the effects of external influences.


                  Quote: Good Me
                  Not about money, most of us think when we talk about the "standard of living", or rather, not about them alone ...

                  It is about money, only about them. wink
                  You don’t even understand what money is. And confuse the standard of living with the level of consumption. fool

                  The owners of this child are also confident that they live for it and do not produce poverty. fool


                  But in fact, the child grows up with uncle and aunt left to strangers, who goes to work for money. fool
                2. +3
                  4 November 2015 12: 50
                  Are you suggesting that we have "affordable and quality education" like in the United States, "affordable and quality medical care" like in the United States, "affordable and high-quality housing" like in the United States?
                  So they have been trying to bring us to this since the 90s.
                  I just don’t really want either such an education, where the school graduate does not know basic things, or such medicine, where they will provide only first aid, and then pay (and not a little), or such housing - cardboard houses for rent an apartment for rent, and if something goes wrong, they’ll throw them on the street.
              2. +9
                3 November 2015 11: 51
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                You can’t think with money, about money, in categories of money and live for money !!!

                Sasha come back to earth .. we live under capitalism and in its most ugly manifestation - state-oligarchic, with elements of banditry ... then it’s not up to the high for the majority, it would survive to a salary .. not all the same how do you work at Rosneft .. . laughing
                1. +2
                  3 November 2015 12: 10
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  we live under capitalism, and in its most ugly manifestation - the state-oligarchic, with elements of banditry ... then it’s not up to the high for the majority, it would survive to a salary .. not all the same how you work at Rosneft ...

                  So, and again. laughing
                  “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
                  And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi

                  And here is the confirmation.
                  Quote: bmw

                  The other day I went into the salon and looked at the "Sable". The machine is quite.
                  Our price is 864 mp. The rate of 13,17%. Down payment 260 tr. CASCO 30 tr. Credit for three years. Monthly payment 21521 rub. Overpayment 137tr.

                  He will give the fuel tanker to the bank and am happy over the ears !!! laughing

                  You, a citizen, are not about me, you think about yourself, starting from the head, is everything normal in it? wink
                  1. +3
                    3 November 2015 12: 29
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    So, and again.

                    Everything, the eloquent ate crying laughing
                    1. 0
                      3 November 2015 12: 57
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      That's all, eloquent crying laughing.

                      I hear from uel. laughing
                      1. +2
                        3 November 2015 13: 45
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        That's all, eloquent crying laughing.

                        I hear from uel. laughing

                        He himself laughing
                        funny dialogue .. by the way, you got stuck with the minuses (corrected) if it’s not me, you and I are gentlemen and not some kind laughing
                      2. 0
                        3 November 2015 17: 47
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        by the way you stuck cons

                        Eka is unseen. laughing
                        I got angry only once angry. smile
                      3. 0
                        4 November 2015 01: 30
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        I got angry only once angry.

                        Yes, I’m a friendly hand, I stretched out through the worldview abyss .. (ek wrapped himself liked it) laughing
                  2. +3
                    3 November 2015 14: 03
                    Well, yes, someone turns black caviar, and someone thinks what to buy bread in. In the courtyard of our trust's office, new Kruzaks are standing, and hard workers get a bare tariff, no money.
                    1. +5
                      3 November 2015 17: 52
                      Quote: dvg79
                      Well, yes, someone turns black caviar, and someone thinks what to buy bread in. In the courtyard of our trust's office, new Kruzaks are standing, and hard workers get a bare tariff, no money.

                      As for me, let them choke. If people row everything to themselves, it means they are not enough, then they are poor. Poverty is in her head. I told one owner on Kruzak: don’t show what you are driving on, tell me how much the cleaning lady gets from you. Rednecks, what to take from them.
                      1. +1
                        4 November 2015 01: 25
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        I told one owner on Kruzak: don’t show what you are driving on, tell me how much the cleaning lady gets from you.

                        If it’s for sure, I bet he fell into a stupor, and then he turned it around his temple .. was that so?
                      2. 0
                        4 November 2015 07: 07
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        it was?

                        He didn’t cut it at all ...
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                2. 0
                  3 November 2015 12: 18
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  Sasha come back to earth .. we live under capitalism and in its most ugly manifestation - the state-oligarchic,

                  It would also not hurt you to return to the earth, Russia has been a state oligarchic and even in the days of the USSR, which didn’t interfere, and on the contrary contributed to its development and strengthening of the empire since the time of Ivan the Terrible, but this is not our choice, this is natural selection.
                  1. +3
                    3 November 2015 13: 31
                    Quote: SPACE
                    state oligarchic and even during the Soviet era,

                    Please call the Soviet oligarchs, an extremely interesting version about the state oligarchic SOCIALISM what
                    1. +1
                      3 November 2015 17: 56
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      Please call the Soviet oligarchs, an extremely interesting version about the state oligarchic SOCIALISM what

                      What surprises you so much? There is a constitutional monarchy in England in the absence of a constitution. And everything is fine. tongue

                      Said
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      state oligarchic SOCIALISM what

                      so be it. fellow
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                  2. +6
                    3 November 2015 13: 51
                    .COSMOS (1) .. to return to earth, its entire history of Russia .... ""
                    On November 2 on November 1721, Tsar Peter I took the title of Peter the Great, Father of the Fatherland, Emperor of All Russia. It was on this day that Russia became an empire.
                    1. +1
                      3 November 2015 15: 49
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      Please call the Soviet oligarchs, an extremely interesting version about the state oligarchic SOCIALISM

                      Politburo and general secretaries.
                      Quote: 222222
                      On November 2 on November 1721, Tsar Peter I took the title of Peter the Great, Father of the Fatherland, Emperor of All Russia. It was on this day that Russia became an empire.

                      I know it is commendable.
                      Z.Y. Doesn’t take everything so literally, not in a sense, but in essence!
                      1. 0
                        3 November 2015 17: 57
                        Quote: SPACE
                        I don’t think, but in fact!

                        And in fact, read "The Hour of the Bull" by I. Efremov.
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                      3. 0
                        4 November 2015 01: 32
                        Quote: SPACE
                        Politburo and general secretaries.

                        Well, a very bold analogy - I would say beyond ...
                  3. 0
                    5 November 2015 09: 07
                    Russia only developed when power crushed presumptuous oligarchs. In return, fairy tales were told that if they hadn’t been terrible tyrants, they would have destroyed everything, destroyed 100500 million victims, etc.
                3. +5
                  3 November 2015 12: 24
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  not all how you work at Rosneft ... laughing


                  If so ... That, indeed, why not VseDoFeNi...
                  1. +1
                    3 November 2015 12: 52
                    Quote: Good Me
                    That, indeed, why not VseDoFeNi ...

                    Yes, they rave. They invent everything and believe in their Freudian reservations ... fool
                    1. +2
                      3 November 2015 14: 23
                      Quote: VseDoFeNi
                      Yes, they rave.

                      Don't Sly Sasha - be a real kid .. laughing
                      1. 0
                        3 November 2015 17: 59
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        Don't Sly Sasha - be a real kid .. laughing

                        Yes, REALLY rave !!! wassat
                      2. 0
                        4 November 2015 01: 35
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Yes, REALLY rave !!!

                        I proved the first part, and now prove the second - about the boy laughing
                      3. 0
                        5 November 2015 06: 52
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        about kid

                        Broke the sandbox !!!
              3. +4
                3 November 2015 13: 56
                I’m going to tell a story from life. Our machine operator broke his leg, didn’t grow together correctly, for the operation to install the Elizarov’s apparatus and the apparatus itself demanded a lot of money that he don’t have, as a result, we can’t work for almost a year now. We have normal medicine and living standards West envies.
                1. +2
                  3 November 2015 14: 27
                  Quote: dvg79
                  I’ll tell a story from life

                  Well, according to VDF, you turn out to be a liberalist and all a prowess ... laughing (do not tell anyone - we will quickly figure them all out now) bully
                  1. 0
                    3 November 2015 18: 07
                    Quote: afdjhbn67
                    according to the VDF version, you turn out to be a liberalist and all a wee ...

                    And no.
                    1. 0
                      4 November 2015 01: 08
                      Quote: VseDoFeNi
                      And no.

                      And it seems to agree with the second line ?? bully
                2. 0
                  3 November 2015 18: 07
                  This confirms my words that medicine has not restored anyone's health, the bones grow together by themselves, medical "jambs" are a dime a dozen.
                  And all (almost) got hooked on the loot. And this is not right. People should be thought of, not money.

                  And the reason for all this is the dismemberment of the USSR by corrupt brainless communists.

              4. 0
                3 November 2015 20: 13
                We were told in the 90s that our generals are fat, and that the American TRP is surrendering
            2. +1
              3 November 2015 11: 37
              Quote: anip
              It’s better to discuss the cuts about kickbacks in your country. Remember Serdyukov with Vasilyeva

              And what is wrong? Well, do you think that, on the instructions of the EP party and the government, they drank a niche budget (there are still a lot of liberals in the country), and a little, according to the plan, they cut down money for selling unnecessary military objects. It’s necessary to conduct secret reconnaissance operations and keep illegal immigrants, strengthen the government’s party through their oligarchs, arm the army, build a bridge to the Crimea, but where can I get the money for it? A loan in an American bank or something, only liberals are given there. laughing And about the Peskov watch in the picture above. wassat It never happens in the highest echelons of power of personal theft and corruption, or rather we will never know who ended up badly in this regard ... By the way, patriots overexcited by justice, for their own good, do not want to know.
              1. +2
                3 November 2015 18: 49
                Space no longer pour!
            3. +4
              3 November 2015 11: 47
              Quote: anip
              Remember Serdyukov

              In! Remembered! In addition to the construction of the road at the expense of the Moscow Region, the investigation did not charge him, and compared with his American colleagues he is an innocent baby.
            4. +4
              3 November 2015 16: 04
              [
              Quote: anip
              And yes, compare the standard of living in the USA and Russia

              And what is the standard of living in Russia so radically different from the American one? We have more affordable medicine, education too. About direct comparison of income in dollars, and wonderful statistics, which are quite different in the United States in terms of calculation methods (previously posted links to the works of American and German economists on the cunning of accounting in the United States) Much in Russia is more accessible and of better quality. Simply, gentlemen, it is customary and imperceptible. And the "court" thieves, they sit everywhere. Postindustrial society - what did you want?
              1. +3
                3 November 2015 19: 11
                Quote: fennekRUS
                Much in Russia is more affordable and better.

                Let the mushrooms go, pick the berries in the USA. The standard of living is bad for him. fool
                1. +2
                  4 November 2015 13: 02
                  And you can also try to dig a garden in the USA: there are tomatoes, onions. Or try to fix the car yourself, change the oil.
            5. +3
              3 November 2015 19: 35
              Today I went and healed a tooth for free. Try it in the USA. This is so, for example. So live yourself according to their level.
            6. +1
              4 November 2015 01: 32
              Quote: anip
              Think of Serdyukov with Vasilyeva, of Peskov’s watch.

              Have you ever been told about the effect of conspiracy, or deliberate misinformation?
              Then there is only one question: What would you do if you were given the task of starting and carrying out a full-scale modernization of the armed forces, but so that it would not catch the eye (for the time being) and would not arise among the delicate adversaries questions "Why is it if everything is bad for you and the Minister of Defense says that all Russian weapons are threshing floors, and the armed forces for some reason are becoming more and more powerful every month"?

              I personally, at the site of the GDP, would also play such a "mega-performance with many unknowns" that Serdyukov and Vasilyeva did to divert Western eyes from the modernization of the Armed Forces in the country.
              IMHO. Respectfully! ;)
            7. win
              +2
              4 November 2015 11: 42
              living standards in the USA and Russia

              The standard of living of American billionaires and millionaires is high.
              And to look at the "outback" - they live there in cardboard houses and huts.
              Hurricane Katrina washed away everyone and everything.
              Of course, there is cardboardоit is cheap ...
          3. +6
            3 November 2015 11: 44
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Oh, liberalism and other all-crawlers !!! Where are you???

            Sasha, you immediately slap a tag with this phrase, will anyone answer you who disagree with you?
            fabulous morons

            In our Russian mythology, he was the only one - Ivanushka-d. Little fool .. well, if you remember the ending, then he turned out to be the smartest ...
            You are careful with the labels then .. laughing
            But it doesn’t turn out who will answer -k.ozel feel(liberalist, all-crawler)
            1. +4
              3 November 2015 12: 19
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              Sasha, you immediately slap a tag with this phrase, will anyone answer you who disagree with you?

              Do not worry so, just change your worldview and everything will be fine with you. Yes

              Quote: afdjhbn67
              In our Russian mythology, he was the only one - Ivanushka-d. Little fool .. well, if you remember the ending, then he turned out to be the smartest ...

              I don’t know a fairy tale about a moron. About them there is only reality, where they perform in different guises. wink

              Quote: afdjhbn67
              But it doesn’t work out who will answer the -k. feel green (liberalist, all-crawler)

              You have chosen the wrong company. No.
              1. +8
                3 November 2015 12: 34
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                Wrong company for yourself

                Oh, you didn’t write me down .. it seems that you’re already passing on insults ... glue a sticker on the monitor - who does not agree with me - not necessarily a liberal and all-inclined wassat
                I won’t play with you laughing
                1. 0
                  3 November 2015 13: 13
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  not necessarily liberalist

                  Karasho. bully
                  1. +1
                    3 November 2015 13: 22
                    And write on YOU - I don’t suffer from megalomania .. (great people don’t get sick laughing)
                    drinks
                    1. +1
                      3 November 2015 19: 19
                      That is, you want to say: you do not subtract me?
                      1. 0
                        4 November 2015 01: 04
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Can't you subtract me?

                        Absolutely in a line .. laughing
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            2. 0
              3 November 2015 12: 30
              Quote: afdjhbn67

              In our Russian mythology, he was the only one - Ivanushka-d. Little fool .. well, if you remember the ending, then he turned out to be the smartest ...
              You are careful with the labels then.

              Some people believe that everything will be fine, while others believe that everything will be bad. A rhetorical question arises for prosraliteli, who do they want to become? Be smart in shit or fools in chocolate? There are still many problems, there’s still a long way to go, so why dissolve snot, which will never do honor to a man!
              1. +3
                3 November 2015 12: 43
                Quote: SPACE
                Be smart in shit or fools in chocolate?

                I think a rhetorical question?
                , well, why dissolve snot, which will never do honor to a man!

                I'm afraid I didn’t understand you correctly request
                1. +3
                  3 November 2015 13: 21
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  I'm afraid I didn’t understand you correctly request

                  Quote: Airmarsh

                  We were born to make a fairy tale come true,
                  To overcome space and space,
                  Our mind gave us steel arms, wings,
                  And instead of the heart - a fiery motor.

                  Chorus:

                  Higher, higher, and higher
                  We fly our birds
                  And in every propeller breathes
                  The calm of our borders.

                  Throwing up his obedient apparatus
                  Or creating an unprecedented flight,
                  We recognize how the air fleet is getting stronger,
                  Our first proletarian fleet in the world!

                  Chorus.

                  Our sharp look pierces every atom,
                  Our every nerve of determination is dressed;
                  And believe us, for every ultimatum
                  The air fleet will be able to give an answer.

                  Chorus.


                  Quote: March of Enthusiasts

                  On weekdays of great construction sites
                  In a cheerful roar, in lights and bells,
                  Hello, country of heroes,
                  A country of dreamers, a country of scientists!

                  You are in the steppe, you are in the forest
                  You to the tropics, you to the pole
                  Lay down darling, boundless,
                  My indestructible!

                  We have no barriers, either at sea or on land,
                  We are not afraid, neither ice, nor clouds.
                  The flame of his soul, the banner of his country
                  We will carry through worlds and centuries.


                  Should we stand still?
                  In our daring, we are always right.
                  Our work is a matter of honor,
                  There is a matter of valor and a feat of glory.
                  Do you bend over to the machine,
                  Do you cut into the rock
                  A beautiful dream, not yet clear
                  Already calls you forward.

                  We have no barriers, either at sea or on land,
                  We are not afraid, neither ice, nor clouds.
                  The flame of his soul, the banner of his country
                  We will carry through worlds and centuries.

                  Created our world for glory
                  Over the years, things have been done for centuries.
                  Happiness take on the right
                  And we love it hot and sing like children.
                  And our scarlet stars
                  unprecedented sparkle
                  Over all countries, over the oceans
                  A dream come true.

                  We have no barriers, either at sea or on land,
                  We are not afraid, neither ice, nor clouds.
                  The flame of his soul, the banner of his country
                  We will carry through worlds and centuries.


                  And now not? what
                  1. 0
                    3 November 2015 14: 31
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    And now not?

                    if about songs then yes, since childhood I love - you won’t believe I downloaded a flash drive in a car, I listen ...
                    1. -1
                      3 November 2015 16: 41
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      if about songs then yes, since childhood I love

                      For whom the song, for whom and the credo.

                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      I'm listening in the car ..

                      Not otherwise purchased by poverty? laughing
                      1. 0
                        4 November 2015 01: 02
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Not otherwise purchased by poverty?

                        Nope and not even on credit ..
                      2. 0
                        5 November 2015 08: 17
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        Nope and not even on credit ..

                        Are not from a bad life buying a car?
        2. +4
          3 November 2015 07: 39
          Yes, Americans are sawing a budget worse than ours! Ah, well done!
        3. 0
          3 November 2015 20: 02
          Quote: GRAY
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          Accustomed in the West to cut loot from all budgets.

          Throw a freshie:
          FoxNews on the main page highlights another corruption scandal: $ 800 million allocated by the US Department of Defense to equip facilities in Afghanistan under the Task Force for Stability and Business Operations (TFBSO) program, did not share where. The program was closed in March 2015, people ran away. Although something can be found. Here we found a gas engine fuel station (CNG) in the city of Shiborgan. Over the period 2011-2014, $ 42,7 million was spent on construction, including OK. 12,3 million dollars direct costs and $ 30 million overhead costs. The inspector, John Sopko, special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction (SIGAR), said that the cost of building a similar facility in neighboring Pakistan is half a million dollars.

          The TFBSO program was directly subordinate to the Secretary of Defense [now Ashton Carter, who, it seems, immediately closed the bench. But FoxNews reporters are trying to link his name with the program]. The TFBSO team was formed in 2003. in Iraq and since 2009 was transferred to Afghanistan.

          From an official letter from the Deputy Minister of Defense: "the closure of TFBSO in March 2015 and departure of all its employees have resulted in the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) no longer possessing the personnel expertise to address these questions or to assess properly the TFBSO information and documentation retained by WHS in the OSD Executive Archive. " "The closure of the program in March 2015 and the departure of all employees has led to the fact that the office of the Minister of Defense no longer has the expertise to answer questions or proper access to [design, estimate and as-built] documentation."

          The most expensive gas station in the world, Shiborgan, Afghanistan:

          I liked the UAZ in the photo! laughing
      2. 0
        3 November 2015 14: 26
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Quote: Corporal Valera
        Let Baba advise her! Well, or who is there with him?

        It is they from the duality of feelings. One of which is fear, the other is a thirst for money. Accustomed in the West to cut loot from all budgets. Yes, so cut that the rest of the world never dreamed of.
        Nothing, citizens of NATO, you have no time to feast — there are more debts and less sales. Capitalism, this cannibalistic model for the development of MANKIND, is ending. And there we will build a just society without isms and craters.

        I agree with you, the hawks are trying to knock out the dough and as much as possible! But most of all I was struck in the article by the following: -that Russia, due to its geographical location, is capable of suppressing the Baltic countries! That is, Russia is again to blame for its location so badly? What should have been in another place to be located so as not to irritate the Western "partners"? Are they too cold? The more pressure we have, the stronger the response will be! I believe we have not lost our Spirit!
        1. 0
          3 November 2015 17: 21
          Quote: ydjin
          That is, Russia is again to blame for its location so badly? What should have been in another place to be located so as not to irritate the Western "partners"? Are they too cold?

          The funny thing is that for them there are no double standards for us, just like we do not put dogs, cats and other animals at the table. For them we are savages and nonhumans. angry
      3. 0
        3 November 2015 16: 59
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Capitalism, this cannibalistic model for the development of MANKIND, is ending.

        I agree, a fait accompli ...
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        And there we will build a just society without isms and craters.

        But here, I'm not sure. Until people understand the intent of the "architect", they will continue to "build" the Global slave system of a new (information-digital) type ...
        1. 0
          3 November 2015 17: 13
          Quote: ava09
          But here, I'm not sure. Until people understand the intent of the "architect", they will continue to "build" the Global slave system of a new (information-digital) type ...

          This begs the conclusion. But nothing good will come of it.
      4. 0
        3 November 2015 17: 17
        I agree !!!! completely !!!!!
      5. 0
        3 November 2015 17: 17
        I agree !!!! completely !!!!!
    2. +14
      3 November 2015 09: 16
      "" Let him advise Baba! Well, or who is there for him? ""
      1. +3
        3 November 2015 10: 05
        Russian unpredictability instilled fear in the hearts of Western generals
        Just do not need this. The West never got rid of fear of Russia. As fear covered them in ancient times, it still does not let go
      2. +1
        3 November 2015 10: 22
        Quote: 222222
        "" Let him advise Baba! Well, or who is there for him? ""

        Already scared of them. smile

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      4. 0
        3 November 2015 14: 08
        Again, pull them out? And if they didn’t go with their legs themselves ...
    3. 0
      3 November 2015 16: 06
      I know my abilities. And this is a cause for concern. ”Millie said when leaving his wife’s bedroom
    4. 0
      3 November 2015 19: 46
      Quote: Corporal Valera
      Mr. Milli does not advise "underestimating the capabilities of 28 NATO states"

      Let Baba advise her! Well, or who is there with him?

      Most of all I liked these words of this joker: -
      "And if the Russians are not" curbed ", it will all end" badly.
      "For no less than 500 years, there is a single Russian State, and over these 500 plus years, those who want to put a bridle on the Russians; And this is exactly what the Plucked Hawk offers, NATO ... Mr. Milli ... Then I would advise Google him a little, and he will soon find out that no one has been satisfied with this yet --- So why did he decide that he would be an exception to the rule, I don't understand ... belay
    5. 0
      3 November 2015 20: 32
      Quote: Corporal Valera
      Moscow, Mr. Millie, does not advise "to underestimate the capabilities of 28 of NATO states", as well as the "collective advantages" of the alliance in firepower. “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.


      But Russia has 2 good allies - the Army and the Navy (and, accordingly, WMD).
      And to be honest, then NO European state is capable of 1 to 1 confront Russia.
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    8. 0
      4 November 2015 12: 53
      “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.

      Russia has two allies - this is its army and navy, and they will never turn back !!!
      And will these 28 of his stand to the last? I doubt it ...
    9. 0
      6 November 2015 21: 24
      As one of the smartest politicians in Europe, Otto Von Bismarck, said.

      "Russia is dangerous scanty their needs."

      “A preventive war against Russia is suicide because of the fear of death.”

      “It’s impossible to win Russians, we have seen this for hundreds of years. But Russians can be instilled in false values ​​and then they will win themselves. ”
      "Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of the main force of Russia, which is based on millions of Russians."

      “Do not hope that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed that supposedly defend you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it is worth playing with Russians either playing honestly or not playing at all. ”

      “He, as always, with a diva smile on his lips and an ice compress on his heart” (about the Chancellor of the Russian Empire Gorchakov).

      “The power of Russia can be undermined only by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia. To do this, you just need to find and cultivate traitors among the elite and with their help change the self-consciousness of one part of a great nation to such an extent that it will hate everything Russian, hate its clan without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. ”

      “Never fight with the Russians. They will respond to every military trick with unpredictable stupidity. ”

      "Russians harness for a long time, but go fast."
  2. +8
    3 November 2015 05: 55
    concern again ... the diagnosis is simply narrower. what
    1. +4
      3 November 2015 06: 25
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      concern again ... the diagnosis is simply narrower.

      I think this concern is related to the US economy, and the EU, how they need a war to restart their industry.
      They do not even know from which side to approach Russia with a proposal to "play" the war. And the stubborn Russian Federation does not want to respond to the provocations that they offer, but responds in an unpredictable manner, this both confuses them and infuriates them.
      1. +2
        3 November 2015 06: 37
        So the liberals appeared, Zaminusili the whole branch)))))))))))))))))
        1. +9
          3 November 2015 08: 00
          Quote: Sirocco
          So the liberals appeared, Zaminusili the whole branch)))))))))))))))))

          These are not liberals, this is liberalism. Liberals, I believe, were patriots of their countries, and liberalism is enemies and traitors.
          1. +3
            3 November 2015 11: 30
            liberals a priori cannot be patriots of their countries. Liberalism (from lat. Liberalis - free) is a philosophical and socio-political movement that proclaims the inviolability of human rights and individual freedoms.

            Liberalism Proclaims the rights and freedoms of each person of the highest value and establishes them as the legal basis of public and economic order. Moreover, the ability of the state and the church to influence the life of society is limited by the constitution. The most important freedoms in modern liberalism are the freedom to speak out publicly, the freedom to choose a religion, the freedom to choose representatives in fair and free elections. In economic terms, the principles of liberalism are the inviolability of private property, freedom of trade and business. In legal terms, the principles of liberalism are the rule of law over the will of rulers and the equality of all citizens before the law, regardless of their wealth, position and influence.

            how can they be patriots of their country, if first of all they value their rights and freedoms, this is their main and unstoppable value, they wanted to spit on everything else, the main thing is that they would be good if all the traitors in the Second World War propagandized liberal values.
    2. +6
      3 November 2015 08: 17
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      ..the diagnosis is just already.

      This is a pathology ..., the diagnosis was made many decades ago ... Yuryevich, hi !
  3. +21
    3 November 2015 06: 00
    So I would not be proud of the presence of such allies as the Baltic States and Liechtenstein with Luxembourg.
    1. +10
      3 November 2015 06: 35
      Ya-ya, naturlich! good + + + + +
      He immediately rezanul:
      “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.

      This "Mr. Millie" would be ashamed to use the term "allies" - it is time for the vassals to change diapers ... If the Balts had the opportunity to split off their piece of the continent, they would have been rowing somewhere in the direction of Australia long ago in a panic. belay
      By the way, we have a lot of historical examples when Russia's "allies" were secretly hitting in the back. So - thank you humbly - we'll manage somehow ... angry
      In general, the author - thank you very much - had fun in the morning! laughing
      Another "bauble":
      Milli said he expects an increase in the presence of troops in the region based on rotation.

      I'm sorry, but is this something with logic or something? belay Finally, a couple more small questions: who works for Millie as a speechwriter and the recipe for that dope that he takes right before the process? wassat
    2. +2
      3 November 2015 06: 36
      You can, of course, not be proud, but something tasty could be placed there so that the "peace-loving" NATO does not relax. Isn't it time to defend Mexico from Canada? )
  4. +14
    3 November 2015 06: 01
    NATO has already pressed us to its own borders, although it gave its word to Comrade Gorbachev not to do so. And we are accused of being aggressive and ready to attack somewhere! We have deployed troops in Eastern Europe and even the Baltic states, they impose sanctions under any pretext, and we are accused of all sins. Here even the most narrow-minded person will give the last one for an extra machine gun and an extra missile to discourage our eternal "friends" from playing war games. And what is most offensive, these people do not understand the words. Only a hard blow will sober up their sore brains. I hope it will be possible to do this in Syria, and later in one more place, but I will not specify, here and so everyone knows what it is about!
    1. +18
      3 November 2015 06: 15
      although she gave the floor to comrade Gorbachev

      As history has shown, Gorbachev is not our friend. S ... he!
      1. +6
        3 November 2015 06: 35
        Quote: ussrex
        As history has shown, Gorbachev is not our friend

        So he is not our friend, but the West.
        1. +8
          3 November 2015 07: 01
          Quote: EvgNik
          So he is not our friend, but the West

          A more suitable term is lackey.
      2. 0
        3 November 2015 14: 11
        In the words of Ivan Vasilievich, at stake, the first means!
    2. +4
      3 November 2015 06: 28
      Quote: indifferent
      NATO has already pressed us to its own borders, although Comrade Gorbachev gave the floor not to do this.


      The cat promised the mouse not to touch her ...
      Can you trust the Anglo-Saxons?
  5. +13
    3 November 2015 06: 01
    Russian unpredictability inspired surprise in the states. Hysterics rustled.
  6. +2
    3 November 2015 06: 09
    More calibers, and the Americans will not climb into the land conflict in Russia.
  7. +2
    3 November 2015 06: 10
    If there weren’t American hysterics, Europe would sit quietly!
    1. +1
      3 November 2015 06: 14
      Quote: Younger, I
      If there weren’t American hysterics, Europe would sit quietly!

      At least without a single shot she became a member of the t.s. Toto these mice and gall.
  8. +6
    3 November 2015 06: 19
    Guys, I’m looking at your comments and I don’t understand, - "And why are you not sleeping?"
    What time is it?
    Or are there no women nearby?
    1. +7
      3 November 2015 06: 22
      Quote: Consul-t
      "Why can't you sleep?"

      And you? what laughing
      1. 0
        3 November 2015 11: 19
        Heh .. I have no wife nearby, I'm on a business trip. smile
    2. +2
      3 November 2015 06: 25
      And you sir around hook hooked accidentally climbing over his wife to the toilet, and for one see how things are going in Syria !!!)))))))))
    3. +3
      3 November 2015 06: 39
      Quote: Consul-t
      What time is it?

      Too lazy to look at the clock? Is it necessary to turn on the computer for this? I report: we have 8.39.
    4. +4
      3 November 2015 06: 40
      Quote: Consul-t
      "Why can't you sleep?"

      Let me ask you a curiosity: do you have time zones in the country or does Russia live only according to Moscow time ?? wassat
    5. +4
      3 November 2015 06: 49
      However, you, having gone somewhere, didn’t fail to turn on the computer and go to VO ...
      And then in Khabarovsk soon 14 hours ...
  9. +3
    3 November 2015 06: 21
    And what about the revanchism of the bad? Even if the battle is lost, the war must be won. And life shows that states also have natural selection. So you need to be strong so that you don’t wipe your feet about us.
  10. +5
    3 November 2015 06: 21
    “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.... 28 NO .. there are 2 - the army and navy .. but what!
    1. +1
      3 November 2015 13: 12
      Four. Since the time of Alexander III, VKS and Strategic Missile Forces have been added soldier
  11. +1
    3 November 2015 06: 22
    A bunch of worthless drivers, got together, scratched their tongues, sowed a soup and thereby showed unity as many as 29 allies. Well, God bless them, we know - when a dog has nothing to do, she licks her eggs!
  12. +6
    3 November 2015 06: 26
    Yes SHO-W we are all about Europe, but about the Middle East with that country 404; Isn't it time to "swing" and really return to Cuba, to come to Brazil (where are the monkeys!), so to speak, to "light up" the presence of "polite" but not predictable ones. Then there will be THEM FEAR and DIARRHEA IN REALITY.
  13. +1
    3 November 2015 06: 40
    Calibrate !!! And more than once !!!
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  14. +2
    3 November 2015 06: 46
    Russia publishes openly, through the speeches of the Foreign Ministry and the GDP, that will change the unipolar world structure. This is a signal to the United States - it's time to behave "decently" and get "your daily bread with sweat and blood", as commanded by Faith ... In the sense of "stop fattening" at the expense of others, work yourself, creating your own (and not someone else's) crayfish the same welfare. That is, Russia is for a fair distribution of benefits. I personally support the Russian position. I work almost seven days a week, but it's better than no work ... You, members of the forum, the same thing that I wish for myself - a thoughtful attitude to information sources. Who is a friend, who is an enemy you will not immediately understand ...
  15. +1
    3 November 2015 06: 46
    This is not unpredictability, but a real miscalculation of the United States and its European minions. Euphoria from the victory over the USSR. In what no small evil was applied by the agents of influence of the CIA "marked" and "fingerless". But Russia held out and, as if "Phoenix" was reborn from the ashes.
  16. +1
    3 November 2015 06: 54
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    concern again ... the diagnosis is simply narrower.

    Autumn, lonely ... aggravation ...
  17. 0
    3 November 2015 07: 01
    Mattress sixes feed a foreign army at their own expense, helpfully substituting their heads under the ax
  18. 0
    3 November 2015 07: 21
    Some Western generals believe that Moscow is "preparing for offensive operations."

    Well, of course: If the jackals covered the bear in the den, it becomes unpredictable for them!
  19. +1
    3 November 2015 07: 22
    Moscow, Mr. Millie, does not advise "to underestimate the capabilities of 28 of NATO states", as well as the "collective advantages" of the alliance in firepower. “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.
    Should not be underestimated. And the same should not be overestimated. We see how the 28 allies behave with the refugees, and I guess how they will behave in "firepower".
  20. 0
    3 November 2015 07: 38
    As practice has shown, the best vaccination against American arrogance is the placement of our modern in Cuba
    "syringes". I hope this option lies in the "daddy" of the RF Ministry of Defense.
  21. 0
    3 November 2015 07: 43
    Quote: nozdrevat58
    Moscow, Mr. Millie, does not advise "to underestimate the capabilities of 28 of NATO states", as well as the "collective advantages" of the alliance in firepower. “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.
    Should not be underestimated. And the same should not be overestimated. We see how the 28 allies behave with the refugees, and I guess how they will behave in "firepower".


    Especially in light of the very article on mutual assistance of NATO members in an attack, according to which each state acts at its discretion. What, I doubt that from those who wish to clash with us in an adult will not cram :)
  22. +10
    3 November 2015 07: 46
    "Underestimate the capabilities of 28 NATO states"

    “Russia has no 28 allies”

    Somewhere I already saw it
    Who remembers how the past EU ended?
  23. +5
    3 November 2015 07: 49
    It is a pity that you can not put two ratings. The review is a definite plus. And the title is a definite minus. Frankly zadolbali on VO such headings
    Russian unpredictability instilled fear in the hearts of Western generals


    The headlines are at the level of the "yellow press". It's like a recent post titled "The Death of Schwarzenegger ...." So it is here. A certain contingent has a false hat-handed impression that NATO is a bunch of inept people, that NATO generals (officers) are almost graduates of the institute of noble maidens who faint at the sight of a mouse, everything instills in them fear, horror, and on any occasion they express concern (by the way, a completely normal expression when one country is concerned about the actions of another), Are we now also concerned about the deployment of heavy NATO weapons on our borders? so, our concern is in the order of things, and their sign of fear ???
    If someone thinks so, then this is very stupid. How silly not to reckon with NATO forces. How stupid to consider allies faithful comrades in one case, and litter in the other.
    1. 0
      3 November 2015 15: 48
      Well, we are Russian, and no longer rely on allies. Learned by bitter experience. Hope only for yourself !!!
  24. +2
    3 November 2015 07: 50
    Quote: Corporal Valera
    Mr. Milli does not advise "underestimating the capabilities of 28 NATO states"

    Let Baba advise her! Well, or who is there with him?



    If you knew that, would advise laughing They really don’t know what to do, where to run, what to grab and where to carry ... I wonder how long it will last. As long as they ask for money. wink
  25. +2
    3 November 2015 08: 07
    "Revanchist Russia"

    Again from a sore head to a healthy one. For the past 100 years, Germany has sought military revenge. The United States, slowly losing its position in the international arena, is striving to maintain global hegemony. Therefore, such statements are not surprising and predictable.
  26. +3
    3 November 2015 08: 15
    Quote: rotmistr60
    "Revanchist Russia"

    Again from a sore head to a healthy one.



    The classic of turning upside down. The main thing is to fool your electorate and put in the "correct" information.
  27. +2
    3 November 2015 08: 15
    Still, we must return to Cuba !!! To life Americans did not seem honey ...
  28. +3
    3 November 2015 08: 27
    In addition to its two main allies, the army and the navy, Russia has other, very unexpected allies. First of all, the Westerners themselves. With their tolerance, love of homism, they destroyed traditional moral norms and destroyed the institutions of the family and Christianity. As a result - an increase in the number of old people and a decrease in the number of European youth, a decrease in the number of children. NATO will have to defend the nursing home that Europe is becoming for the foreseeable future. Secondly, allies are migrants. Their invasion created a lot of problems for Europeans, and considering how migrants "love" Europe and the Europeans themselves, their way of life, values ​​and way of life, we can safely say that the current problems that migrants create are still flowers. Soon NATO forces will have to fight an internal enemy that is more dangerous than external ones. This enemy is migrants. Everyone saw footage of migrants entering through the terminal of a European airport. And one boy came out of the crowd to the camera smiling and ran his finger down his throat, thereby showing what he would do and what everyone who came to Europe would do. So the conclusion is that NATO will soon have to fight migrants, many of whom are militants. Well, we will calmly look at this show.
    1. 0
      3 November 2015 10: 04
      Quote: Geser
      Well, we - calmly look at this show

      If Merkel has enough brains and hardness of character, then it can be! And if she acts like Yanukovych, where will all this beauty explode ??? I would not give such an assessment.
      1. 0
        3 November 2015 13: 36
        Merkel has no brains and firmness, otherwise she would have long ago driven away all these migrants with a filthy broom, just as the Chancellor's oath and duty require. Well, if Yanukovych follows suit, then all this mass will first rob Germany, until some kind of person with a firm character comes to replace the chancellor, which I doubt since all this tolerance has decomposed the Germans. And then all this charm will explode from Germany to other European countries, because it is also good there. So we are waiting for the show from the Europeans.
  29. +1
    3 November 2015 08: 30
    Some Western generals believe that Moscow is "preparing for offensive operations

    And why bother homosexuals, got stoned and in role-playing games suffered.
  30. +1
    3 November 2015 08: 59
    If Russia should have seized the territories of Europe, then this would have happened unexpectedly, without revealing all its cards! Russia has demonstrated to the West that the guys do not have to jerk at Russia, the answer may be adequate and at the same time unpredictable! So chew your snot calmly, NATO! Adyus, yts !!!
    1. 0
      3 November 2015 15: 01
      Quote: ballaboll
      If Russia should have seized the territories of Europe, then this would have happened unexpectedly, without revealing all its cards! Russia has demonstrated to the West that the guys do not have to jerk at Russia, the answer may be adequate and at the same time unpredictable! So chew your snot calmly, NATO! Adyus, yts !!!

      That is the point, we do not need the Europe we have conquered, we need Europe as a partner for mutual benefit. But as I see it, the mind was gone there. Instead of cooperation, Europe has chosen the path of self-destruction and degradation, step by step under the decrees of the United States Europe with mantras: -Russia the enemy descends into Hell.
      1. 0
        4 November 2015 06: 45
        Quote: ydjin
        We need Europe as a partner for mutual benefit.

        For example? Europe can only rob, which has been successfully demonstrated for hundreds of years.
        Why do we need such a partner ???
  31. +1
    3 November 2015 09: 13
    US officers receive promotion only for combat missions. From here, the desire to stick into any minor conflict that requires warfare with low-risk Papuans.
    A completely different matter is the conflict with Russia. Not only everyone will survive until the next rank
  32. 0
    3 November 2015 09: 14
    "The US command in Europe is looking for ways to demonstrate strength and show the army's ability to concentrate large forces in the Baltic States and Poland, if necessary. The publication reminds that the recently delivered about 250 tanks and other heavy equipment will eventually be deployed in NATO countries near the borders of Russia."

    The closer and more crowded you get at the borders of Russia, the higher the probability of getting and destroying precisely, at a time!
    laughing
  33. +1
    3 November 2015 09: 18
    Throughout the known history, Europe has been rushing to us, and when it once again got in the face, it squealed - "but we are for what." Because we've always done the wrong thing! When we reached and took Paris, we had to take out everything that our hands could reach, quite a proportionate response for the burnt-out Moscow, and burn the rest. And in 1945, for what these civilizers were doing with us, we had carte blanche - do what you want, but this bastard does not remember anything.
  34. +1
    3 November 2015 09: 25
    airstrikes on positions of the Islamic State and on opponents of the Bashar al-Assad regime, the newspaper notes

    One gets the impression that the journalist Joni Vagiver has already sheltered at least 3 "refugees" from Syria at his home, most likely in his bed.
    This logically explains his nonsense - he thinks not with his head, but with an ass!
  35. 0
    3 November 2015 09: 43
    Mr. Milli does not advise Moscow to “underestimate the capabilities of 28 NATO states,” or the “collective advantages” of the alliance in firepower. “Russia has no 28 allies”,

    In this regard, Russia has no doubts that these "allies" will not go over to the enemy's side or stab them in the back, if the opportunity arises, while the American "allies" are just expensive ballast. laughing
  36. +3
    3 November 2015 09: 48
    I remember that even O. Bismarck bequeathed: “Do not start anything against Russia. For any trick, Russia will answer with its unpredictable stupidity.” It seems so, I can’t vouch for the accuracy.
    But Bismarck was a Prussian, and therefore a European, and they have everything upside down there.
    Therefore, to paraphrase Bismarck: "Do not start anything against Russia, because Russia will respond with wisdom to any of your stupidity" ... and possibly also "Caliber".
    1. +1
      3 November 2015 10: 14
      Therefore, to paraphrase Bismarck: "Do not start anything against Russia, because Russia will respond with wisdom to any of your stupidity" ... and possibly also "Caliber".


      Do you know that Bismarck never said such nonsense? That all this was invented by the sofa-office bros and the journalistic avid sensationalists?

      Or can you specify a book, a page where you can read it in the original?
  37. -8
    3 November 2015 09: 58
    reminded 39-40 years, then they also "instilled fear" and fought on foreign territory with little blood, though on the screens of movies, because the Finnish showed the level of "instilling fear" the Finns did not get drunk.
    Well, okay, as I understand it, the author -> author -> author of a new formation, I didn’t teach history, grew up under capitalism, but you are people who were born in a scoop, who put pluses here and who again throw hats?
    1. +4
      3 November 2015 10: 32
      Perhaps, yes, and it looks like you were born in a scoop. And here I am in the Soviet Union, still Stalin. Therefore, I do not deal with either a neglect of the enemy, or a reptile before him. Yes, you need to know your story, but not only to know, but to draw the right conclusions from this knowledge.
      1. -1
        4 November 2015 10: 44
        Therefore, I am not engaged in any neglect of the enemy


        judging by the way the sofa-office jerboas were ripped off and most of the day who did not serve here
  38. +1
    3 November 2015 10: 02
    The US Army cannot defeat even civilians armed with Kalashnikovs, and they think that they can compete with the Russian army only because they have a lot of money. Money will not fight for them. Everything is decided by the fighting spirit, which the American army does not have and never had. Take out the toilet paper from the satchel from the American soldier, and he is already unfit for combat. And anyone can shoot civilians around the world, even with their eyes closed.
  39. +1
    3 November 2015 10: 07
    That's right, scum, be afraid and train the sphincter ... you still can’t think with your head!
  40. +3
    3 November 2015 10: 09
    Moscow, Mr. Millie, does not advise "to underestimate the capabilities of 28 of NATO states", as well as the "collective advantages" of the alliance in firepower. “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.

    Hitler at the time underestimated only one country, the USSR. He appreciated the rest correctly)))
  41. 0
    3 November 2015 10: 14
    History has warned us more than once about the destructiveness of the "shabby" moods, so it is dangerous and shortsighted to underestimate the capabilities of our enemy!
    But, of course, they put their diapers into their diapers lately. And at the same time, they are trying to coax up the Baksiks in their "pockets", under the guise of a Russian threat ...
  42. 0
    3 November 2015 10: 20
    [quote = rus-5819] I remember that O. Bismarck bequeathed: "Do not start anything against Russia. For any trick, Russia will respond with its unpredictable stupidity."
    Again, the same Bismarck said: “The Russians cannot be defeated, we have seen this for hundreds of years. But Russians can be instilled with false values ​​and then they will defeat themselves. " This is what the West tried to do with the hands of its "fosterlings" - our local traitors, liberals ..
    1. +1
      3 November 2015 10: 24
      Quote: Skalpel
      our local traitors, liberals ..

      Well, almost everyone got hooked on grandmas. And how much I did not ask here. no one answered, what is money? wink
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  43. +3
    3 November 2015 10: 27
    Moscow, Mr. Millie, does not advise "to underestimate the capabilities of 28 of NATO states", as well as the "collective advantages" of the alliance in firepower. “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.
    We, my friend Millie, and in the 41st there were no allies, do not forget.
  44. 0
    3 November 2015 10: 36
    (They fear the Western military and Russian unpredictability: “no one knows” what Moscow will do next.) Our steps are very simple and take two, three, one steps — Berlin, the second — Paris, the third — London. Don’t jerk and don’t tease us and we will not walk to you.
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  45. 0
    3 November 2015 11: 21
    Of these 28 allies, half will immediately announce their withdrawal from NATO, another quarter will say that they have no opportunity to help at the moment, but they strongly condemn the aggression of Russia, the remaining will pretend that they are not at home. And there will remain one-on-one staffers against Russia. It will just be some kind of beating of babies. It’s a pity we just don’t finish it, we constantly leave the enemy surviving, as was the case with Napoleon, Hitler, etc.
  46. 0
    3 November 2015 12: 13
    we don’t climb toward them, but they stick to us with a fool and they still blame us, lying Anglo-Saxons.
  47. 0
    3 November 2015 12: 32
    All military men always make plans for future battles, but politicians determine the direction of the offensive and defense. The White House will say that the main danger comes from the Canary Islands or Greenland penguins and that these threats will be evaluated, and plans will be made to eliminate them, deter, etc., well, money will always be asked for, without them in any way.
    And Vasilyevs, milli, Serdyukovs - these are everywhere, like flies
  48. 0
    3 November 2015 12: 54
    “I don’t know,” he said, “what Russia will do in the future, no one knows. But I know what they have been doing since 2008, and I know my possibilities. And this is cause for concern. ”


    A surprisingly sound judgment from the general. He is aware of how many mattresses they have made up and, quite justifiably, he will figure out what might come of demand. Progress is evident)
    1. 0
      3 November 2015 12: 59
      Quote: KelWin
      Progress is evident)

      Still close to face. wink
  49. +1
    3 November 2015 13: 02
    I just want to remind you that the USSR broke the backbone of the European team in 45 so that 28 is not scared of us by US allies. Know saw passed. And by and large, Topol does not care. Europe is not Russia other sizes.
  50. mihasik
    +1
    3 November 2015 13: 24
    Mr. Milli does not advise Moscow to “underestimate the capabilities of 28 NATO states,” or the “collective advantages” of the alliance in firepower. “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.

    Well, in the 41st, we also did not have 28 allies and all of Europe was against us, nevertheless, everyone who participated took the impudent face.
    Want to repeat? Itching in one place? There is a solution !!!) Cuba BDSM !!! Every whim for your money!!! The ass will be torn almost for free, without going to the Russians !!!am laughing
    Not enough? Go to the nearest Muslim quarter laughing laughing laughing
  51. +3
    3 November 2015 13: 36
    I am from Siberia, and I work at the construction site of an ultra-modern plant. Which is being built in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, so it will be an aluminum plant in Boguchany. And the salary does not exceed thirty thousand rubles. And I don’t really care who is there and what they say about my homeland. And I am like a Siberian and a patriot!!!! I like living and working on my own land!! Where do my children live? Darling! Parents! Brothers! And Sisters! This is just to distract from the topic. And if they are afraid, it means they respect!!!!
    1. +2
      3 November 2015 15: 17
      Quote: stalker hammers
      I am from Siberia, and I work at the construction site of an ultra-modern plant. Which is being built in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, so it will be an aluminum plant in Boguchany. And the salary does not exceed thirty thousand rubles. And I don’t really care who is there and what they say about my homeland. And I am like a Siberian and a patriot!!!! I like living and working on my own land!! Where do my children live? Darling! Parents! Brothers! And Sisters! This is just to distract from the topic. And if they are afraid, it means they respect!!!!

      I completely agree with you! It's not a boy's speech, but a husband's! Don't destroy Russia! Russians of all nationalities, unite!
      PS I myself am an ethnic Chuvash, I have lived on Sakhalin all my life. He served as a conscript in Belarus (Borisov, Pechi training), Germany (Eberswalde-Finow), Kaliningrad regional! Black shoulder straps with the letters SA. The word Motherland is not an empty phrase! With respect to the forum members! Which is.
    2. Kolovrat88
      -1
      3 November 2015 21: 28
      But I can’t get enough of the fact that my salary is SEVERAL less than that of an American or European in a similar position. You can’t feed children patriotism...
  52. 0
    3 November 2015 16: 58
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    Of course, this should not be underestimated, but Europeans are still people; it is often better to miss an opportunity than to put yourself at risk.

    So why are there so many antlers? if they are unable to answer. You have to know how to bluff. Well, we got what we didn’t want.
  53. 0
    3 November 2015 18: 35
    It is unlikely that the Americans could quickly transfer any serious group of troops to Europe
  54. 0
    3 November 2015 18: 40
    Dobroe vremia sutok gospoda hi Japan fer.Eshe ja bi gospoda posmel bi obratit Vashe koncetration,4to usa in kongres en senat,predstoit priniat bydjet na sledushij god(nadeus poslednij)Eshe ja bi xotel zaverit Russishe Narod,4to u Vas gorazd bolshe dobrojelatel 4em nedrug.Prosto gospoda nasha elita goret ej v adu zaviazan ma mnimom straxe Russishe Federation.No mi prosto narod znat gde ushki tor4at.
    PSs uvazenuem k VELIKKIJ LAND RUSSLAND.
    1. win
      +2
      4 November 2015 11: 22
      I simply advise a Dutch citizen to buy a Russian keyboard on a transparent film and stick it on it. Surely there are many Russian stores in Holland and the cost of the keyboard is low.
      Otherwise it’s impossible to read. What if some smart thoughts...
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  56. 0
    3 November 2015 19: 11
    Well, let them sit and think what else Russia can do! Let them not sleep at night and be afraid, this is all called psychological warfare. And it’s not far from the madhouse.
    1. win
      +2
      4 November 2015 14: 53
      Let them not sleep at night and be afraid, this is all called psychological warfare.


      This psychological (information) war is designed to frighten the Russian elite. In addition, in our society there is a part of pro-Western “pacifists” (fifth column) who are ready to capitulate at the first shout from Washington.
  57. 0
    3 November 2015 20: 15
    They don't like the unpredictability of Russians! Since when did predictable person become synonymous with positive?
  58. 0
    3 November 2015 20: 30
    Russia just needs to publish a monthly review with the location of NATO bases and give the range of destruction of their tactical nuclear weapons. At the same time, to publish a monthly in color - these goals were added last year... The total charge in TNT equivalent increased by... times...
  59. 0
    3 November 2015 21: 12
    “Russia has no 28 allies,” he said, not without irony.

    Two is enough for us. They will be more serious than all of these.
  60. Kolovrat88
    -1
    3 November 2015 21: 24
    Our steps are very simple and are calculated one two three, the first step is Berlin, the second is Paris, the third is London. Don’t tug or tease us and we won’t step towards you.

    yeah, we would have already “liberated” them, only the Donetsk airport delayed us for 242 days. laughing
  61. 0
    3 November 2015 23: 16
    Well, yes, with a chicken ass following the USA ..... the difference is a waste of our budget and theirs. (put a minus but also justify it)
  62. win
    +2
    4 November 2015 11: 10
    “underestimate the capabilities of 28 NATO states”,


    Estonia has sooooo much power!...
    They even have an aircraft carrier!
    Only sooooo small (see military parade in Estonia 2015)
  63. win
    +2
    4 November 2015 12: 11
    When an American soldier goes on the attack, he is not afraid of anything, because he is insured.
    When a Russian soldier goes on the attack, then no one is safe...
  64. win
    +2
    4 November 2015 14: 47
    That is why “Baltic” themes constantly creep into discussions at the level of commanders of American forces in Europe and defense ministers of NATO states - they say that the Baltic countries have “rather limited defense capabilities”


    US military bases in Europe have long housed nuclear warheads. The strategic arsenal is currently being rotated. On the other hand, additional military contingents are being deployed to Eastern European countries. So far this is not so much a threat to Russia as flag show and support for those regimes that form a “cordon sanitaire” around our country.

    At the same time, the goal is to scare the Russian population in the same Baltic states. Local elites are seriously afraid that they will start an uprising like in the Donbass.
  65. 0
    4 November 2015 15: 29
    How scared they are to live! A drunk journalist under the same nickname described his horrors in his head and passed out. In the morning I woke up and found that several stupid generals and State Department employees had commented on this. He commented on them under a different nickname. And he wrote a terrible article in a “respected publication” with links “to sources in the Pentagon, the State Department and the CIA” fool
  66. win
    +2
    4 November 2015 16: 15
    "We want to make sure we have enough capabilities to deter further Russian aggression."

    But there are few opportunities...

    The former head of the electronic warfare department of the US ground forces, Laurie Buckhut, put everything into perspective: “Our main problem is that we did not fight under conditions of suppressed communication for several decades, so we have no idea how to act in such a situation.
    We lack tactics and an algorithm of actions; we are completely unprepared to conduct combat operations in conditions of lack of communication.
    The USA does not have such extensive opportunities EW, which Russia possesses. We have very good radio intelligence, and we can conduct wiretapping around the clock, but when it comes to disabling the equipment, these are our possibilities and do not reach one tenth of the similar indicators of the Russian army.”
  67. 0
    4 November 2015 17: 54
    Russia does not need to defend the “28 allies.”
    And if something happens, the “light elves” will not take “their hobbits” to them overseas.
  68. 0
    4 November 2015 21: 50
    So let them think....while there is time!