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Zakharov: which formations in Syria are terrorist, and which - opposition, experts will decide

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The negotiators in Vienna to resolve the conflict in Syria agreed that the lists of terrorist groups operating in this country will be compiled at the expert level, RIA News statement by the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Maria Zakharova.


City Homs, Syria

“It was understood that experts who have been involved in international terrorism for many years should hold consultations in order to develop a common understanding of who these terrorists are,”
reported Zakharova.

According to her, the parties to the Vienna talks came to the general opinion that "for progress on the Syrian settlement, it is necessary to reach an understanding on a number of key issues." “And then it will be possible to build the Syrian process from separate parts,” Zakharova added.

In addition, she noted, Moscow handed over to its negotiating partners a list of those organizations that it considers to be oppositional.

“Russia has done its homework: a list of almost 40 organizations of the Syrian opposition we have developed and handed over to our colleagues,” said the Foreign Ministry spokesman.

“The ball is now on the side of the partners,” Zakharova noted. - They have to look, add someone, maybe they don’t agree, but our list includes almost all the forces that are healthy from the point of view that they do not use either extremist or terrorist methods in defending their political interests. "
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  1. Finches
    Finches 2 November 2015 08: 42 New
    +9
    Our experience of the Khasavyurt agreements suggests that a terrorist is always a terrorist, even if he mows under the opposition for some time! I don’t think that you need to exchange and go under the West - there is a legitimate government today and enough.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 2 November 2015 08: 48 New
      +8
      The experience of the Minsk agreements suggests that a long and difficult path lies ahead in resolving the situation in Syria.
      In contrast to the situation in the Donbass, Russia has a trump card - the legitimacy of the presence in Syria of a VKS group performing a military-political mission.
      1. Yuri from Volgograd
        Yuri from Volgograd 2 November 2015 08: 51 New
        +5
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The experience of the Minsk agreements suggests that a long and difficult path lies ahead in resolving the situation in Syria.
        In contrast to the situation in the Donbass, Russia has a trump card - the legitimacy of the presence in Syria of a VKS group performing a military-political mission.

        You are certainly right, but the world community in the person of the United States and their henchmen themselves come up with who is legitimate and who is not.
        With a certificate from Obama, any terrorist will be considered a righteous person and a sufferer.
        1. Good me
          Good me 2 November 2015 09: 05 New
          +5
          Zakharov: which formations in Syria are terrorist, and which - opposition, experts will decide


          Satanovsky and Zhirinovsky, experts!

          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 09: 25 New
            +4
            Quote: Good Me
            Satanovsky and Zhirinovsky, experts!

            I absolutely agree, and without any irony. If you read what you wrote and listen to what Zhirik said more than 20 years ago, it turns out that at first everyone laughed together, and then without any humor they quietly did what he wrote and said. I don’t know if it’s a coincidence or someone up there in the Kremlin strictly embodies the precepts of grandfather Zhirinovsky, but remember how amicably neighing над "сапогами в Индийском океане" и "укрупнённым административным делением"? And then without the laughter создали Федеральные округа и в Мумбай "Пётр Великий" регулярно, как на дежурство, ездит... И это ещё не все примеры.

            And Satanovsky with his healthy sobering cynicism is generally necessary for any politician as a consultant. At least there is knowledge of the issue, subtleties of foreign policy and other things - enough for five ...
            1. Good me
              Good me 2 November 2015 09: 30 New
              +2
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              I absolutely agree, and without any irony.


              Irony, in my comment, well what ... somewhere only at 1 / 2 percent.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 09: 34 New
                +5
                Quote: Good I
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                I absolutely agree, and without any irony.


                Irony, in my comment, well what ... somewhere only at 1 / 2 percent.

                Yes, I'm not talking about you specifically in the sense of irony. Our people are simply used to laughing at Zhirik, like a clown. Yes, it’s a little expressive ... But to read and listen, and then compare what is really being done - amazing coincidences ... hi
                1. Good me
                  Good me 2 November 2015 09: 53 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Yes, I'm not talking about you specifically in the sense of irony. Our people are simply used to laughing at Zhirik, like a clown. Yes, it’s a little expressive ... But to read and listen, and then compare what is really being done - amazing coincidences ...


                  I do not argue. It would be our government (although Zhirinovsky represents the branch of power, but there is no right to make a decision behind him), but listen to OPERATIVELY to sound thoughts, and Zhirinovsky, and others.
                2. veksha50
                  veksha50 2 November 2015 10: 08 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  to read and listen, and then compare what is really being done - amazing coincidences ...



                  So to speak, on time and to the place expresses the aspirations of not only the people, but also the Kremlin ...
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 17: 29 New
                    +1
                    Quote: veksha50
                    So to speak, on time and to the place expresses the aspirations of not only the people, but also the Kremlin ...

                    That's the joke that Zhirik will first say, and then the Kremlin will do in 15-20 years. I read here the other day his literature 92-93 of the year of release for the sake of purely sports interest. Wow! And about Syria in 94 I wrote what is happening now, and about the Islamic Caliphate, and about refugees, which will give Europe a glimpse ... Stunned right! recourse

                    I also heard from someone from the liberals that Zhirik works, like, for the Kremlin - in the Kremlin, before doing something, they give it to Zhirik and study the reaction of the electorate. I don’t know, maybe ... But, I think, he is too uncontrollable and unpredictable figure to use him insolently. It’s inconvenient to work with him. It’s much easier to come up with some kind of Kursavel bully ... That one is much more manageable.
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 2 November 2015 09: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
          the world community in the person of the usa and their henchmen

          Nah ... It's not the public at all, these are potential patients of the Kiev psychiatric hospital laughing
          1. Good me
            Good me 2 November 2015 09: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Nah ... It's not the public at all, these are potential patients of the Kiev psychiatric hospital


            In the Kiev psychiatric hospital, the Chief physician, orderlies, all the staff, a long time needs to be changed. It is ripe and overripe.

            И лишь тогда, определять туда такую "общественность"... Иначе выходит,по тому как они себя там чувствуют, что болезных типа Матвеюшки Говнопольского, мы на курорт спровадили...
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        4. Oleg NSK
          Oleg NSK 2 November 2015 09: 11 New
          0
          ... the USA and their henchmen themselves come up with who is legitimate and who is not

          ... absolutely agree
          ... основная проблема - это определиться с терминологией ... а это скорее всего невозможно, по причине того, что наши так называемые "партнёры" являются создателями этого самого терроризма ... и по сути, они не просто пособники терроризма, а его верхушка ...
          ... вот и вопрос, о чём с ними говорить? ... им как минимум нужно самим "отчиститься" или хотя-бы сменить "маски" (так уже было, в конце ВОВ) ... без этого, все переговоры не имеют смысла ... и все усилия тщетны ("Минск" тому пример)
        5. DanSabaka
          DanSabaka 2 November 2015 16: 35 New
          0
          Well, while the reference frame is written out, everyone needs to be wet ... and Allah himself will figure out who was legitimate and who was not .....
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 2 November 2015 09: 31 New
        0
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        the legitimacy of the presence in Syria of a VKS group performing a military-political mission.

        Normal move: they were already asked to give targets - they didn’t give, they asked to indicate where it was not necessary to bomb - they did not indicate. Now the opportunity arises to say: we are working with the reconnaissance of the Syrian army, we see a hotbed of armed resistance - well, you can’t see from a height of 5 km who is fighting against the SAA!
        And if they give the coordinates of the location, the ATS still has its own aviation and helicopters, but we will not touch them lol .
      3. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 2 November 2015 11: 06 New
        0
        for stalkerwalker:

        Absolutely.
        And the key to ending the civil war in Syria is Turkey.
        They have a northern border, refugee and militant camps, all supplies.
        They can drag the war to infinity if they want.
        They will have to sit at the negotiating table, as with a leading player.
    2. Tor5
      Tor5 2 November 2015 08: 59 New
      +4
      I completely agree! Our pilots work closely with the legitimate government of Syria. And the west breaks into its territory as a violator of borders.
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    4. atalef
      atalef 2 November 2015 09: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      Our experience in the Khasavyurt Accords suggests that a terrorist is always a terrorist, even if he mows under the opposition for some time! I don’t think that you need to swap and go under the West - there is a legitimate government today and enough

      Ie (as I understand it) there are 40 opposition organizations with which Russia is ready to work?
      They are the opposition to Assad (as I understand it), fighting against him.
      interesting . How does Iran and Assad relate to this?
      1. Finches
        Finches 2 November 2015 09: 28 New
        0
        I hope this is just a diplomatic pun after Vienna!
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 09: 30 New
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        Ie (as I understand it) there are 40 opposition organizations with which Russia is ready to work?
        They are the opposition to Assad (as I understand it), fighting against him.
        interesting . How does Iran and Assad relate to this?

        Как мне это видится, наша "работа с ними" будет заключаться в том, что мы их не будем бомбить. А они в ответ не будут стрелять в Асада. А ПОТОМ, после ИГИЛ - выборы, парламентская борьба и т.д. Но без автоматов. Я так понимаю...

        However, there, above, there may be some other opinions - it is ultimately up to them, not me, to decide.

        Although, I think, these bearded and parliamentary methods of political struggle are some kind of parallel universes ...
        1. atalef
          atalef 2 November 2015 14: 31 New
          0
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Как мне это видится, наша "работа с ними" будет заключаться в том, что мы их не будем бомбить. А они в ответ не будут стрелять в Асада

          And who will they be in?
          ISIS? I doubt it.
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          And BECAUSE, after ISIS - elections, parliamentary struggle, etc. But without machine guns. As I understand it

          Suppose further?
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Although, I think, these bearded and parliamentary methods of political struggle are some kind of parallel universes.

          In general, Syria was one of the most secular countries of the BV. Of course, democracy was not there (and it is not needed there) - but some semblance of elections existed.
          I’ll tell you, as long as it comes to a semblance of elections, a sea of ​​time will pass, the Alawites will not be able to resist, the Assad will be removed much earlier.
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      3. hydrox
        hydrox 2 November 2015 09: 35 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        How does Iran and Assad relate to this?


        Good question, but ... for counterintelligence.
        Our business will now be offered to these 40 groups to quickly and quickly escape from the combat zone, and who didn’t hide ... well, we warned you!
    5. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 09: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: Finches
      Our experience of the Khasavyurt agreements suggests that a terrorist is always a terrorist, even if he mows under the opposition for some time!

      Yesterday they said on television in the news that The Al-Nusra Front declared its withdrawal from ISIS (or something like that) and the transition to the banner of moderate opposition.

      What does America think there? Terrorists will run back and forth, and we will guess - to bomb or not to bomb? There is a legitimately elected president of Syria. Our troops are acting in agreement with the legitimately elected President of Syria. All who shoot at him are enemies and must be destroyed. The Americans want - let them take them to their home in Texas and there they figure out which of them is more moderate ...

      Старшее поколение, разумеется, помнит "Одиссею капитана Блада" Р.Сабатини. Помните, какой хитрый финт он выкинул с патентом капитана королевского флота? Главное - вовремя его из рукава вытащить, а потом вовремя выкинуть... So these bearded ones. Here we are goats - and here we are lambs ....
    6. marlin1203
      marlin1203 2 November 2015 10: 17 New
      0
      Ну что за ерунда! Во-первых, что это за "эксперты" должны быть? Во-вторых, на основании чего они экспертизу проводить будут?В-третьих, у террористов там что партбилеты, контракты, точные списки? И вообще они сейчас все быстренько "реорганизуются" до "умеренных" и все...
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 2 November 2015 08: 43 New
    +5
    Zakharov: which formations in Syria are terrorist, and which - opposition, experts will decide
    Here, in the next world they’ll sort it out! Who was who, who is active, who is a passive terrorist.
  3. Decathlon
    Decathlon 2 November 2015 08: 43 New
    12
    "...будут решать эксперты..."
    Pathologists ?! repeat
    1. kagorta
      kagorta 2 November 2015 08: 48 New
      0
      No, it's VKS wink
    2. Angro Magno
      Angro Magno 2 November 2015 09: 00 New
      +1
      Everything is easier. Allah will understand in the next world.
      The opposition will give opposition gurias, the terrorists - the terrorists.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 2 November 2015 09: 39 New
        0
        To satisfy, and then oytsy bit off?
        E-mine, they will be deprived of the only wealth of the Orthodox! lol
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  4. Wolka
    Wolka 2 November 2015 08: 48 New
    +4
    however, in Syria, the war, and not even a civil one, in my opinion the terrorists are those who oppose the regular Syrian army and the B. Assad’s government, the war will end, then respected by the opposition and declare yourself by generally accepted methods, participate in agitation but without weapons, take part in the elections in the end, but if now, being an ideological opponent of B. Assad’s policy, you are fighting against his government and the regular army, you’re definitely a terrorist ...
  5. SAM 5
    SAM 5 2 November 2015 08: 49 New
    0
    the parties to the Vienna talks agreed that “for progress on a Syrian settlement, understanding is needed on a number of key issues

    They came to the opinion, but how this question will be actually solved.
  6. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 2 November 2015 08: 55 New
    +2
    And these experts will sit at the controls of Russian bombers !!!
  7. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 2 November 2015 09: 01 New
    0
    He who fights against a legally elected government is clearly an enemy of the people and the state, and here the division into good and bad terrorists cannot be used, they are all smeared in one world and must be destroyed.
  8. 31rus
    31rus 2 November 2015 09: 03 New
    0
    Ну и где прогресс?Это очередной тупик,завтра США предоставит свой список из 30 пунктов,взаимоисключающий наш и что дальше?Другой вопрос какие эксперты ,из каких стран,организаций?Это уход от проблемы и так не чего не решить,а тянуть время не "в наших" интересах,американцы искусственно создадут "оппозицию".
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 2 November 2015 09: 43 New
      0
      They will not create, drown in the swamp of votes and approvals.
      For Russia, on the other hand: there are occupied territories, and there are liberated ones, the front line between them, and whoever is behind the front line is the enemy, regardless of color.
  9. afrikanez
    afrikanez 2 November 2015 09: 08 New
    0
    Again, e.p.c.p.r.r.t.s., this bagpipe will never end. Why is it time to pull so that the IS receives new weapons and regroups? fool Не хрен вообще слушать этих "дерьмократов-западников"
  10. cniza
    cniza 2 November 2015 09: 12 New
    +2
    Quote: Decathlon
    "...будут решать эксперты..."
    Pathologists ?! repeat



    By DNA? belay But seriously, the West simply does not know what to do.
  11. Almatinets
    Almatinets 2 November 2015 09: 17 New
    +1
    took a weapon - it means he went into terror. experts in the furnace
  12. sl22277
    sl22277 2 November 2015 09: 26 New
    +1
    Anyone who fights against Lawful Authority in arms is a Terrorist. He must either lay down his arms and surrender, or be destroyed. What other expert decisions can be expected when there is a mass murder of people ?!
  13. roskot
    roskot 2 November 2015 09: 53 New
    +1
    A muddy thing is to determine who the terrorist is. For states and Europeans, this is Assad. For most Syrians and Russians, this is ISIS. So everyone has their own lists.
  14. veksha50
    veksha50 2 November 2015 10: 04 New
    0
    " провести консультации, чтобы выработать common understanding того, кто есть эти террористы"...

    But what, armed people opposed to a legitimate government and killing their fellow citizens are not terrorists ??? Need some special understanding ???

    From our point of view, it is necessary to destroy everyone who is against the current state system in Syria ... And no consultations ...
  15. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 2 November 2015 10: 13 New
    0
    The West, by its Jesuit inclinations, will now try to distort everything in the definition of a terrorist, because they need them to carry out precisely the Western tasks in the Middle East, however, in Central Asia and on the African continent.
  16. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 2 November 2015 11: 28 New
    0
    Молодец Захарова. Это тебе не Псаки. "...свою домашнюю работу сделала".
  17. ilija93
    ilija93 2 November 2015 12: 06 New
    +1
    yeah, the opposition views of the pedophile on the gender and age of the child are just a matter of taste! The flag is in the hands of experts.