In Germany created ammunition with variable power

German developers from TDW have created and have already experienced a fundamentally new technology for changing the power of ammunition, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to the resource Defense Aerospace.


In Germany created ammunition with variable power


According to the newspaper, the term "power" means "the power of destruction or the area of ​​fragmentation damage" from ammunition.

The 2 projectile was tested at the test site. On one, the power was set to 10%, on the other - to 100%. “Ammunition produced absolutely different destruction,” writes the resource.

Details of the test are not reported in order to maintain secrecy.

“The development is called RADIUS and allows depending on the goals and objectives of the combat operation to instantly change the power of the projectile. Such universality will allow in the future to have only one weapon for any type of combat missions instead of a whole “wagon” of bulky artillery, ”the resource notes.

It is also reported that the company plans to introduce its development "in all types of ammunition from missiles to mines."
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  1. Ajent cho 31 October 2015 08: 15 New
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    A little off topic: why Germany, and not Germany? Was it divided again, or do the West German "ilites" feel superior? However, if this is such an injection of the author, then he is worse.
    1. pv1005 31 October 2015 08: 31 New
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      Quote: Ajent Cho
      A little off topic: why Germany, and not Germany? Was it divided again, or do the West German "ilites" feel superior? However, if this is such an injection of the author, then he is worse.


      Because - Germany (German: Deutschland), the official name is the Federal Republic of Germany (German: Bundesrepublik Deutschland), Germany (German: BRD) - a state in Western Europe. The area is 357 km². The 021 census population is over 2011 million.
      1. oleg-gr 31 October 2015 08: 47 New
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        And why ammunition needs different power options? It doesn’t matter that in Belaz a bag of cargo is taken from a quarry, not a full body.
        1. Slobber 31 October 2015 09: 19 New
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          And why ammunition needs different power options?

          And why ammunition needed?
        2. Sagittarius YaNAO 31 October 2015 09: 30 New
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          Quote: oleg-gr
          And why ammunition needs different power options?

          When hit in moderation, it will be moderately destroyed, and if in the enemy then no mercy. laughing
          1. Victorio 31 October 2015 13: 21 New
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            Quote: Sagittarius Yamal
            Quote: oleg-gr
            And why ammunition needs different power options?

            When hit in moderation, it will be moderately destroyed, and if in the enemy then no mercy. laughing

            ====
            thrifty Germans. the shell kills the living, but retains the infrastructure
          2. renics 31 October 2015 23: 26 New
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            They created it specifically for ISIS, set it to zero and didn’t do any damage, but as an excuse for the world, we say we are fighting with them.
        3. Skif83 31 October 2015 09: 31 New
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          Here the meaning is different,
          On one, power was set at 10%, on the other - at 100%. “The ammunition produced completely different destruction,” the resource writes.
          .
          At first, I was also surprised by the term "power", and then it came ..., it's from computer toys.
          It seems they were carried away by this, let’s not bother them ...
          We must create what is from them, in which case ( lol ), stone upon stone ... etc.
          1. theadenter 31 October 2015 09: 52 New
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            In the original (August 2013 article), the word Might or Power is not used at all. It just says scalable warhead (scalable warhead).
            1. Normal ok 31 October 2015 16: 06 New
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              Article 2013 It’s just super what kind of newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta prints. I remember the film "We are from jazz." There, one character in the 20s reads a newspaper and says: what's going on - the anarchists killed the king. And he answered: what year are you reading the newspaper? :)
            2. Normal ok 31 October 2015 16: 06 New
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              Article 2013 It’s just super what kind of newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta prints. I remember the film "We are from jazz." There, one character in the 20s reads a newspaper and says: what's going on - the anarchists killed the king. And he answered: what year are you reading the newspaper? :)
            3. Lunic 1 November 2015 01: 31 New
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              Well, at least someone was not too lazy to look for the source!
        4. theadenter 31 October 2015 09: 36 New
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          More precise control of the area of ​​destruction and more effective planning of the attack.
          For example, when used in the village.
          1. Manul 31 October 2015 09: 59 New
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            Quote: theadenter
            More precise control of the area of ​​destruction and more effective planning of the attack.
            For example, when used in the village.

            All the same, they will set it at 100%. And if you suddenly need a “moderate” shot, it will be rare. Drive a tank for tasks that a modern infantry fighting vehicle can solve? So I join the skeptics, in this area we should not chase the Germans, let them lead.
            1. theadenter 31 October 2015 10: 13 New
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              Setting it to 100% - it’s easier not to switch to adjustable shells at all, but to use just less powerful shells when the situation requires it. The static power of the shell inspires me more confidence than the dynamic.
            2. dauria 31 October 2015 12: 41 New
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              So I join the skeptics, in this area we should not chase the Germans


              Well, and if this function is just an “addition” to the smart fuse programmed in the barrel at the time of the shot? (in time or height plus radius). For example, undermining OVER purpose .... It is necessary to take a closer look.
            3. skeket 31 October 2015 23: 25 New
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              Quote: Manul
              All the same, they will exhibit 100%.

              I have the same opinion. Suppose you need to throw a shell in the window of the house so that the house is safe and the enemies are dead, but I think it is better to throw a shell in the window so that everyone is beaten there, and whoever survives, let him bury it under the rubble of this house. It would be better to rebuild the house than to dig the grave of your soldier!
        5. APASUS 31 October 2015 10: 09 New
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          Quote: oleg-gr
          And why ammunition needs different power options?

          Unify all ammunition under one standard and build such monsters, you can use it as a machine gun or as an anti-tank gun laughing laughing laughing
          1. Bayonet 31 October 2015 11: 55 New
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            Quote: APASUS
            build such monsters, you can use it as a machine gun and as an anti-tank gun

            Firm Vickers, a program for creating a 127-mm anti-aircraft gun with water-cooled barrel when firing and with two drum magazines for 14 shots each (closed in 1957)

            In the photo - a 102-mm prototype, tested in the mid-50s
        6. Atrix 31 October 2015 10: 28 New
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          Quote: oleg-gr
          And why ammunition needs different power options? It doesn’t matter that in Belaz a bag of cargo is taken from a quarry, not a full body.

          Imagine a plane taking off on a combat flight with ammunition with a power of 1 tone of TNT equivalent with a radius of destruction of 500 meters. Suddenly a target appears that needs to be destroyed but a civilian object is located in a radius of 400 meters. If you reduce the power, then theoretically the radius of destruction will decrease.
          1. APASUS 31 October 2015 22: 56 New
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            Quote: Atrix
            Imagine a plane taking off on a combat flight with ammunition with a power of 1 tone of TNT equivalent with a radius of destruction of 500 meters. Suddenly a target appears that needs to be destroyed but a civilian object is located in a radius of 400 meters. If you reduce the power, then theoretically the radius of destruction will decrease.

            Amaze the peacemaker!
            I would also understand the directional strike system, the ability to change the properties of a bomb to fulfill certain tasks, but in order to reduce the striking ability ................. it is easier to make a reliable guidance system.
        7. Koshak 31 October 2015 11: 15 New
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          Quote: oleg-gr
          And why ammunition needs different power options? It doesn’t matter that in Belaz a bag of cargo is taken from a quarry, not a full body.

          For moderate opposition 10%, for immoderate - 100%
        8. Bayonet 31 October 2015 11: 50 New
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          Quote: oleg-gr
          And why ammunition needs different power options?

          Well, you hit the building where you need to destroy the firing point on the ground floor, and who is sitting upstairs - doubt. Let's put a minimum. The order comes "Fuck this fucking house to hell!" - expose to the maximum and ... no hut! smile hi
        9. wiwa 31 October 2015 20: 28 New
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          what for? the answer is, the Americans kill the igil - they put 10%, and Assad 100%, and then they tell the whole world how they fight terrorists ... by the way, about the charges, put less explosive, less power, more .... eco invention ... again from zrada I can cook ...
          1. olegkrava 31 October 2015 20: 49 New
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            It’s just that when you shoot 10% from a projectile’s duplex, 90% of the explosive drops out, and at 100% it’s not horseradish.
        10. Witold 1 November 2015 22: 53 New
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          The author is not competent in explosives (explosives). explosive power is called brisance.
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        Tor5 31 October 2015 10: 28 New
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        The expediency of creating such a charge (if it is really created) is very doubtful. By the way, the question is, where do the remaining 90% of the carrier of “power” disappear after the explosion?
        1. olegkrava 31 October 2015 20: 50 New
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          It’s just that when you shoot 10% from a projectile’s duplex, 90% of the explosive drops out, and at 100% it’s not horseradish.
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    2. vorobey 31 October 2015 08: 32 New
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      Quote: Ajent Cho
      A little off topic: why Germany, and not Germany? She was again divided


      Germany’s federal structure (consists of 16 federal states) as in Russia. You calmly react to both Russia and the Russian Federation .. repeat
      1. MIKHAN 31 October 2015 08: 46 New
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        Whatever you say, the Germans are talented people .. No matter what they come up with again ..))) And we will have to take Berlin again ... And this is a very difficult and bloody matter! (God forbid!))))
        1. Platonich 31 October 2015 09: 09 New
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          Nothing complicated! Here in Syria, a little work out and go !!!
    3. ALEA IACTA EST 31 October 2015 08: 51 New
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      "Germany" (Federal Republic of Germany) is their official name, and "Germany" is abbreviated.
    4. venaya 31 October 2015 08: 56 New
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      Quote: Ajent Cho
      why Germany, not Germany?

      Since the foundation of the German Empire in 1871, tell me the time period when this newly formed state association was called the mysterious word "Germany". Until now, there is no single state. language and 80 dialects are used in everyday life, and the capital is the former capital of the Prussian Kingdom of Berlin.
    5. BOB044 31 October 2015 09: 32 New
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      A little off topic: why Germany, and not Germany?
      Learn geography and history.
    6. Bayonet 31 October 2015 11: 46 New
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      Quote: Ajent Cho
      A little off topic: why Germany, and not Germany? Was it divided again, or do the West German "ilites" feel superior?

      Oh oh oh !!! How is everything running ... USE is to blame? request
  2. Mountain shooter 31 October 2015 08: 20 New
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    I wonder how they avoid the detonation of the remaining parts of the charge? This is not a trivial task. Well, just intrigued, demons!
    1. rotmistr60 31 October 2015 08: 39 New
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      Another thing is interesting - why are they doing this? If the b / p is single, but only the power is set, then the rest is not clear which explosive (does not detonate during the explosion) is wasted.
      1. hydrox 31 October 2015 08: 55 New
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        why do they do it


        So this interests me: in the morning the site is filled with all sorts of crap, and we are discussing all this - why are we doing this? laughing
      2. dr.star75 31 October 2015 09: 00 New
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        it is understood that one gun is sufficient, for example 100 caliber, and less can not be released, unification is typical. How justified is the question
      3. veksha50 31 October 2015 09: 26 New
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        Another thing is interesting - why are they doing this?



        And in addition, something came to my mind: And how much is this crazy creation worth ??? And how many grandmas did it take to create ???

        PS Well this is necessary: ​​put the limiter of "power" and shied on the machine gun nest ... Put another limiter - and smashed an entire strong point with bunkers ... Bullshit ...
        1. deduly1957 31 October 2015 09: 45 New
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          It’s what they’ll come up with as always, and how to service all this you need to write a whole novel with a sequel. Like during the war with the Tiger.
        2. ingener1966 31 October 2015 10: 25 New
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          You didn’t understand this because of tolerance. lol The conflict will begin and they will blame each other that they say that the slider is put on the wrong power during shelling. wassat This SPSh they introduce restrictions, and then they will follow who fights with whom with what power laughing
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        gjv 31 October 2015 09: 29 New
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        Another thing is interesting - why are they doing this?

        Quote: mark1
        Power then changes and the cost remains constant. That is, for mass use, this shell is probably not suitable

        Quote: Zoldat_A
        In my opinion, the interest here is purely sports - to avoid detonation of an unused charge, to see - what will come of it, etc. The practical value is zero and even funny.

        Quote: vorobey
        I don’t understand what it is for ....

        Initiative development. TDW is positioned in the now fashionable topic of ATO in urban conditions. The Germans are trying to prove the advantage and effectiveness of firing from one point with one gun and one type of ammunition for different purposes: a large accumulation of equipment in an area fully occupied by terrorists, we set 100%; a single firing point in an area of ​​economic or cultural value, set 50%; sniper in the city block of dense buildings, set 10%.

        Roughly speaking, they suggest choosing - to destroy a whole house or only one apartment with a shot.
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        How justified is the question
        request
        1. your1970 31 October 2015 22: 40 New
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          for special services and special forces, yes, for the army, no
      6. Sagittarius YaNAO 31 October 2015 09: 36 New
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        Another thing is interesting - why are they doing this? If the b / p is single, but only the power is set, then the rest is not clear which explosive (does not detonate during the explosion) is wasted.

        So they must have gathered their IS bombs. Our roads are blocked, and so flew in, recharged and ready laughing
      7. Turkir 31 October 2015 10: 47 New
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        Yes, more questions than answers.
    2. hydrox 31 October 2015 08: 47 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, just intrigued, demons!


      Oh, these British (German) scientists!laughing
      Better than writing all sorts of crap, taught ammunition to select targets on the basis of "friend or foe" laughing
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      gjv 31 October 2015 09: 05 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I wonder how they avoid the detonation of the remaining parts of the charge? This is not a trivial task. Well, just intrigued, demons!

      Under certain conditions, many mixed explosives are capable of moving from convective combustion (deflagration) to detonation. This is facilitated by the high pressure of the process, a large mass of the composition, a strong body, the negative oxygen balance of the composition, and a number of other factors. The presence of transition metal compounds in mixed explosives, on the contrary, increases the tendency to transition detonation into deflagration, which is associated with the catalytic effect of transition metal compounds on the oxidation of the fuel components of the mixture during convective combustion. To prevent the transition of detonation to deflagration, use is made of: additives of individual blasting explosives, increasing the loading density, the use of water-filled explosives, the use of powerful detonators, observing the critical diameter of detonation during charge formation.
      Combustion and detonation. Chemistry and chemical technology in life.

      They gain explosives in sections that are prone to detonation and deflagration, set the appropriate number of fuses, activate a certain amount of firing at the required power before firing.

      Nothing really demonic. The traditional "gloomy German genius."
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        gjv 31 October 2015 09: 54 New
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        "Point out" "minuscule" of what is. Freight One? Be protected! bully
      2. Manul 31 October 2015 10: 08 New
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        Quote: gjv
        They gain explosives in sections that are prone to detonation and deflagration, set the appropriate number of fuses, activate a certain amount of firing at the required power before firing.

        hi good Thanks for the specs! Fantastic responsiveness. Well, the hackneyed. Sorry I can put only one plus drinks
        1. FIREMAN 31 October 2015 10: 18 New
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          Put the second "+". I wanted to write myself, they were already ahead. As noted above - the overrun of an explosive that does not participate in a blast, if it is not a binary explosive.
    5. mark2 31 October 2015 16: 25 New
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      Well, maybe there is some kind of chemical detonator. that part of the substance that was exposed to the detonator explodes. The rest just shatters into dust and that's it.
  3. mark1 31 October 2015 08: 21 New
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    Power then changes and the cost remains constant. That is, for mass use, this shell is probably not suitable
    1. mark1 31 October 2015 08: 31 New
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      I was more inspired by the development of the Pike mini-missile for firing from a grenade launcher, laser-controlled range of over 2 km
      1. hydrox 31 October 2015 08: 52 New
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        Something similar was invented and used by the Russians in the defense of Port Arthur :: a mortar based on the Mosin rifle (though without a laser), but this munition performed the role of the shrapnel shell.
      2. 2s1122 31 October 2015 10: 29 New
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        With dimensions of 620 by 40mm and TTX "Pike" the cut will be used for a limited amount, in antiteror or special forces. An expensive toy with laser guidance. Also they will be used with limited dispersion of striking elements. This is a normal trend at the moment.
    2. vorobey 31 October 2015 08: 34 New
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      Power then changes and the cost remains constant. That is, for mass use, this shell is probably not suitable


      I don’t understand what it is for .... just like the Syrian opposition, moderate with selective action .. laughing
    3. Zoldat_A 31 October 2015 08: 38 New
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      Power then changes and the cost remains constant. That is, for mass use, this shell is probably not suitable
      I read two comments and only in the third I saw the main thing - that’s it! Centuries and millennia of work were carried out in the direction of increasing power and "power", and now suddenly the Germans came up with a bomb that does not explode (well, or almost does not explode). In my opinion, the interest here is purely sports - to avoid detonation of an unused charge, to see - what will come of it, etc. The practical value is zero and even funny.
      1. sherp2015 31 October 2015 08: 48 New
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        Quote: Zoldat_A
        The practical value is zero and even funny.



        The main thing is that the yellow ones ...
      2. Bayonet 31 October 2015 12: 06 New
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        The practical value is zero and even funny.

        Only the principle of "the whole world in ruin"? There are situations when excessive power is not needed or even harmful. For example, hit a certain object, while not damaging another, hi nearby.
        1. Zoldat_A 31 October 2015 13: 28 New
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          Quote: Bayonet
          There are situations when excessive power is not needed or even harmful. For example, hit a specific object, while not inflicting damage to another person nearby.

          There is such an expression - "From the gun on the sparrows." It sounds concrete here. Throw kg of TNT on 20 kilometers 10 and undermine one of them - this can only be thought of for purely experimental reasons. In addition, if, for example, the UAZ stands between two tanks with gasoline and needs to be destroyed, but there is no gas, then only the most impenetrable stupid commander will be able to beat it directly from the howitzer at 10% power. To carry out such tasks, there are various types of weapons, various ammunition for them and various tactics for their use.

          In general, some Germans are engaged in nonsense from the series "British scientists have established ...". Now let's laugh at "The German gunsmiths invented ..."? All the well-deserved fame of Carl Walther GmbH Sportwaffen, Gebrüder Mauser, Sauer & Sohn and others flies to the stump of such "developments" ...
          1. Throw 31 October 2015 17: 36 New
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            In general, it is called "swing for the ruble, a blow for a penny" laughing

            Perhaps a decrease in power will be in demand for controlled / corrected PSUs, when 2-3 needs to be carefully picked up with two shots.

            But for ordinary barrel artillery, which does not work single-point, but volleys of batteries throughout the "face" - it makes no sense. It should be moderate - one salvo, to the full - five or more salvos by MRSI.
    4. veksha50 31 October 2015 09: 27 New
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      Quote: mark1
      The power then changes and the cost remains constant



      !!!

      Look at the root, my friend ...
      1. Manul 31 October 2015 10: 15 New
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        Quote: veksha50
        Quote: mark1
        The power then changes and the cost remains constant



        !!!

        Look at the root, my friend ...

        laughing And no! Such a projectile is more expensive than usual! That means "changing power and increasing cost."
        As a result, an increase in the military budget. And during the fighting, the amount will become simply astronomical, given the fact that these missiles and such mines want.
  4. kimyth1 31 October 2015 08: 22 New
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    some kind of fairy tales !!! how can you explode only 100 of 10 kg of explosives ??? fool
    1. Barboskin 31 October 2015 08: 27 New
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      The thing is different how
      Such universality will allow in the future to have only one weapon for any type of combat missions instead of a whole "convoy" of bulky artillery, ”the resource notes.
      It turns out that you can rivet 152 mm shells and use them as 75 mm, or even as 57 mm and is it convenient ?! Is there enough money?
      1. pv1005 31 October 2015 08: 49 New
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        Yes, it’s just that their soldiers now went weak, they didn’t have enough grenades to throw a grenade, so they would scatter 152 kilogram grenades from 25 mm holes with a damaging effect like RGD5. laughing
    2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov 31 October 2015 20: 38 New
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      Or 100% for partners, or 0% for friends! No gaps!
  5. Rurikovich 31 October 2015 08: 30 New
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    Well, there are a lot of analogies .... what It happens that you pull harder - stronger and “bang” laughing
    But, in my opinion, questions arise about the cost of such a supply. If the target does not require a lot of killing for destruction, then spend a relatively expensive toy on it ... Ahhhhh !!! I realized - if you fight with enemies (friends), as America is fighting ISIS, then such a thing is a drop dead! You say that I’m fighting the adversary, you’ll show what your bombshell is, you drop it on the enemy’s camera, it’s kind of falling ... BUT you turned the pimp to the minimum and it practically does no harm laughing Ah da naughty, oh yeah tricks wassat
    laughing
    But does it really make sense to produce a big thing at a cost for an inadequate purpose? what request
    1. pv1005 31 October 2015 08: 54 New
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      Well, there are a lot of analogies .... what It happens that you pull harder - stronger and “bang” laughing


      This fact is well stated in the film "9 companies" by captain sapper (performed by A. Lykov).
    2. Manul 31 October 2015 10: 34 New
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      Quote: Rurikovich
      I realized - if you fight with enemies (friends), as America is fighting ISIS, then such a thing is a drop dead! You say that I’m fighting the adversary, you’ll show what bombshell you have, you drop it on the enemy’s camera, it’s kind of falling ... BUT you turned the little girl up to the minimum and it practically doesn’t do any harm

      laughing Have fun in the morning! Your version is just super!good Good mood for the whole day.
  6. TVM - 75 31 October 2015 08: 30 New
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    Most likely the binary component of the explosive. Dosing one of the components can achieve this result.
    1. pv1005 31 October 2015 08: 41 New
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      Quote: TBM - 75
      Most likely the binary component of the explosive. Dosing one of the components can achieve this result.

      The thickness of the walls of the projectile (from which the fragmentation field is created) is also dosed before loading? And then what kind of unjustified consumption of metal is obtained?
      1. 2s1122 31 October 2015 10: 35 New
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        the shell of the shell can be made even of more fragile material, as in mortar mines, and the degree of dispersion of the fragments will depend on the power of the explosion.
  7. isker 31 October 2015 08: 33 New
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    "Power"? “Promt — great and terrible?”
    Himself not ashamed to distort the language of Pushkin and Gogol?
    1. domokl 31 October 2015 08: 51 New
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      Pushkin’s language is so great because it’s lively ... I remember how I used to explain to my son a line from "Eugene Onegin" - Our beloved faithful stomach ... It ended up with the fact that the son said about Pushkin’s idiocy. You need to write clearly. Not Breguet, but a watch ...
      So claims are not accepted. A lot of words have changed their true face since then ... Even the colors ... Previously, blue was a beautiful color. And now not a very normal person laughing
      1. MIKHAN 31 October 2015 09: 55 New
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        Quote: domokl
        Pushkin’s language is so great because it’s lively ... I remember how I used to explain to my son a line from "Eugene Onegin" - Our beloved faithful stomach ... It ended up with the fact that the son said about Pushkin’s idiocy. You need to write clearly. Not Breguet, but a watch ...
        So claims are not accepted. A lot of words have changed their true face since then ... Even the colors ... Previously, blue was a beautiful color. And now not a very normal person laughing

        "Fighting" with your son and it's great. Sincerely, Respect to you! Now it’s difficult for them to explain the роки offsprings ’smart and impudent .. thanks to the Internet)))) But it’s necessary to protect their souls without nerves and screams nevertheless (they can become isolated and then .... "And on the ruins of autocracy our names will be written .." hi
  8. Windy 31 October 2015 08: 36 New
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    The idea itself is delusional, both from an economic and a technical point of view. Expensive and sophisticated ammunition for all occasions. This is utopia.
    1. Bayonet 31 October 2015 12: 13 New
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      Quote: Windy
      The idea itself is delusional, both from an economic and a technical point of view.

      Well, yes, the Germans are suckers? Where they think of this. And in general, before you do something, you should definitely consult with specialists from VO. wassat
  9. Riv
    Riv 31 October 2015 08: 36 New
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    Some kind of scales. It’s the same as making a machine gun from a sniper rifle. Technically solvable, but why make a high-precision projectile with weakened power?
    And what is it that exploded on the starting photo? It doesn’t look like a mine or a shell. The smoke came from somewhere ... It seems that they threw a grenade into a barrel with the remains of gasoline.
    1. psiho117 31 October 2015 11: 05 New
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      Quote: Riv

      And what is it that exploded on the starting photo? It doesn’t look like a mine or a shell. The smoke came from somewhere ... It seems that they threw a grenade into a barrel with the remains of gasoline.

      if my memory serves me - I previously met ento photos on the expanses of tyrnet - illustrated the thermobaric explosion - a shot of "Bumblebee", sort of ...
  10. domokl 31 October 2015 08: 40 New
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    Dared ... The point of making a powerful ammunition weak? Dragging an 152 mm gun is not particularly impressive. Yes, and this money is serious ... As I understand it, thinking is the other way around. Soon there will be non-lethal shells. laughing Discs. Whoever flew into his head, that’s kaput ... The rest, it seems, will not suffer .. Humanism is called laughing
    1. demo 31 October 2015 08: 48 New
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      And if the opposite?
      To drag a 45-ka, but it plows like 152 mm?
      That's more interesting?
      1. vorobey 31 October 2015 08: 56 New
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        Quote: demo
        To drag a 45-ka, but it plows like 152 mm?


        on 10%? well, let 45 plow like 152 ... why changeable power ...
  11. rf xnumx 31 October 2015 08: 44 New
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    In Germany created ammunition with variable power
  12. Junior, I 31 October 2015 08: 45 New
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    It is economically unprofitable to put 100% of the charge for using it in 10%. Yes, and it takes seconds to change the power of the charge. Something they are too clever again.
    1. 2s1122 31 October 2015 10: 46 New
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      I thought, what if the charge can be gained as in a reduced charge in the artillery (extra gunpowder is taken out of the sleeve) .Although it is possible to break the center of gravity
  13. ALEA IACTA EST 31 October 2015 08: 49 New
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    The greater the power, the better. Why lower it? request
    It seems to me that the Teutons simply decided to cut down a couple of billions of evergreens ...
  14. guznorodov 31 October 2015 08: 54 New
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    one more unnecessary thing, money laundered and all is well
  15. Sergey333 31 October 2015 09: 09 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    I wonder how they avoid the detonation of the remaining parts of the charge? This is not a trivial task. Well, just intrigued, demons!

    Two-component explosive, one of the components is liquid or gaseous
  16. PiP
    PiP 31 October 2015 09: 13 New
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    In physics, something new discovered? Mass, power, power ... and now power wassat
    1. FIREMAN 31 October 2015 10: 24 New
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      Mass, power, power ... and now power

      I didn’t want to put you “-” a respected PiP, but if you study the relevant literature:
      The power of ammunition
      an indicator of the effectiveness of its action on the target. For example, the power of HE shells is determined by the area of ​​the destruction zone; armor-piercing - the thickness of penetrated armor at a given angle of meeting; fragmentation - the area of ​​the reduced area of ​​fragmentation damage, determined by the number, mass and speed of expansion of the fragments; for all shells - the probability of hitting the target.
      Glossary of military terms. - M .: Military Publishing. Comp. A. M. Plekhov, S. G. Shapkin .. 1988.

      Somehow this definition has already been given hi
      1. PiP
        PiP 31 October 2015 11: 39 New
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        So I never mind cons if they are reasoned wink Thank you for the clarification. It would not be bad if the admins inserted such explanations in the text- "to avoid so to speak" (c) hi But all the same, I’ll turn on the D switch. The nature of this "power" lies in physics,
        indicator of the effectiveness of its action on the target
        . For me, this "magnitude" (power) is not clear. Those. can I equate this "power" with striking ability?
        1. FIREMAN 31 October 2015 19: 37 New
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          Striking ability is not quite power. The power of the projectile’s effect on the target, ceteris paribus, usually depends on the properties of the explosive and its mass. For high-explosive ammunition, the explosive power and its mass determine its effect on the target (high-explosive bomb FAB-250) - pure power. In ammunition of a different type, the mass of the explosive charge is determined by other requirements (for example, a cumulative grenade, a MON-50 mine with ready-made striking elements). In fragmentation munitions with a cast-iron shell (mortar mine, F-1 grenade), the use of powerful explosives is impractical, since many fragments are formed that do not have the necessary destructive ability.
          If interested, read the book "Artillery Course" Vol. 1 and 2, ed. Blinova M. 1944 and "Means of destruction and ammunition" Textbook 2008 MSTU. Bauman.
          Regards FIREMAN hi And it’s never too late to learn and improve knowledge!
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            PiP 31 October 2015 20: 10 New
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            Quote: FIREMAN
            Striking ability is not quite power. The power of the projectile’s effect on the target, ceteris paribus, usually depends on the properties of the explosive and its mass.
            .
            impractical, since many fragments are formed that do not have the necessary destructive ability.
            If interested, read the book "Artillery Course" Vol. 1, ed. Blinova M. 1944 and "Means of destruction and ammunition" Textbook 2008 MSTU. Bauman.
            Regards FIREMAN hi And it’s never too late to learn and improve knowledge!

            hi Thank. In tyrnet identity nadybal info:
            Fragmentation is characterized by three indicators:
            kinetic energy of a fragment (penetrating ability or power each fragment upon impact or interaction with a target, an obstacle);

            V.M. Pleskachevsky introduces a classification of items related to individual explosive weapons. In the proposed classification, without an in-depth structural analysis of structural features, WUs of high and low damage are distinguished. In our opinion, the author does not make a difference between the power of the VU and the level of its striking ability. High (low) striking ability characterizes the effectiveness of the WU or ammunition relative to its action on the target. For example, obtaining a minimum charge mass due to the design features of the VU for breaking through barriers of a given thickness and strength. WU power implies it power relative to the size of the area or volume of destruction (damage)
            This is cyclical ...
  17. todaygoodday 31 October 2015 09: 15 New
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    Quote: Ajent Cho
    A little off topic: why Germany, and not Germany? Was it divided again, or do the West German "ilites" feel superior? However, if this is such an injection of the author, then he is worse.

    The name is correct. The unification of Germany occurred by the inclusion of the GDR in Germany. Everything is logical.
  18. Mikhail Krapivin 31 October 2015 09: 28 New
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    Your will, comrades, but it seems to me that pampering all this. When kneading begins and people begin to kill each other in an adult for stripes on a uniform of a different color, no one reduces the power of ammunition. There is only one desire - more powerful, stronger, to blow to smithereens and kill all the reptiles! Therefore, from a theoretical point of view, it is interesting of course, perhaps it is applicable for some local operations, but nothing more.
  19. BOB044 31 October 2015 09: 40 New
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    It turns out that a bunch will fly into one object, and in another bang. So, it’s complicated. recourse
    1. vitaliy.rnd 31 October 2015 09: 54 New
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      Well, this is as usual. In the Taliban - a bunch, in the hospital - bang-bang.
  20. vitaliy.rnd 31 October 2015 09: 52 New
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    "The power of ammunition!"
    It remains to enter into circulation the term "exceptional ammunition."
  21. Averias 31 October 2015 10: 01 New
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    From the point of view of the specifics of the hostilities (well, there is a point strike, to get into the window, “stand alone by the sheep without touching the herd”), it’s probably convenient. But that’s what embarrassed me, because the ammunition itself was initially 100% power, and then you can spin it to a smaller one, right? And if so, then the production and cost of this ammunition will be as 100%. Plus, the price increase due to the "cunning" fuse. I was also interested in the question of the detonation of the rest of the charge. At a glance, it turns out that there will be a 2-component mixture inside? Like in the movies, the two vessels mixed and burst. But the main thing here is the initial 100% power of the ammunition. It turns out that it jumped at 20% of the power, the rest is “wind”? It’s superfluous, and with German then pragmatism.
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      gjv 31 October 2015 10: 30 New
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      Quote: Averias
      It turns out that it jumped at 20% of the power, the rest is “wind”? It’s superfluous, and with German then pragmatism.

      Here the Germans suggest pragmatically calculating costs and comparable damage. They position ammunition of controlled explosive power as an effective means of combating terrorists while minimizing damage to the "environment" (urban and industrial infrastructure, civilians, etc.).
      The question is - how much will all this be really effective in combat conditions? Will they be able to count and compare? Is the intelligence data reliable? request
      Py.Sy. Once I got to the dental clinic, got into a chair and the doctor and assistant sat down close to the chair. Both gloves are pulled. Well, that’s it, I think, the arctic fox, has gotten into four hands, all the teeth are pulled out. It was not there. The assistant grabbed the calculator, not the tool. The doctor will do something, and the assistant on the calculator is pecking like crazy, pumping babos from my wallet for every napkin, eyedropper and all-all-all ... Everything was torn out of the wallet. And another 100 rubles should remain! bully The more I go to that clinic ...
  22. Erg
    Erg 31 October 2015 10: 03 New
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    I will continue the "genius of thought" of the developers. Let them set their know-how on intercontinental missiles. An obvious plus - from one installation you can run different charges. No need to spend money on the production of small submarines and their ammunition wassat
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      gjv 31 October 2015 11: 29 New
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      Quote: Erg
      I will continue the "genius of thought" of the developers. Let them set their know-how on intercontinental missiles

      fellow Technologies for changing the power of a nuclear charge exist since the early 1960s. Launched production warheads with the option of detonation include the B61 family of bombs, as well as B83 (the main type of US bombs), W80 and W84 (mounted on cruise missiles, including the Tomahawk), W85 (installed on Pershing II air defense missile system, currently approx. 120 units mounted on B61 bombs), WE177A (UK production). The ASMP-A aviation tactical missile, deployed on Rafale F3 aircraft, has a TN81 100-300 kt warhead (France).
      In the USSR, nuclear charges of variable explosive power were also developed and tested.
      Are they in service in the Russian Federation -? request
  23. Earnest 31 October 2015 10: 18 New
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    Quote: oleg-gr
    And why ammunition needs different power options? It doesn’t matter that in Belaz a bag of cargo is taken from a quarry, not a full body.

    It is especially pleasing that the phlegmatization of explosives in ammunition does not entail a simultaneous reduction in price. Imagine how to sort out an analogue of M982 Excalibur for 150 kilobucks with the power of the 25-mm Bushmaster shell?
    Quote: PiP
    In physics, something new discovered? Mass, power, power ... and now power wassat

    This is a standard professional term referring to warheads of ammunition, primarily to artillery shells. I quote an example: "Shot 3ВБМ-17 (index of the projectile 3БМ-42; index of the projectile with the projectile charge 3БМ-44) (n / in 1986) was developed as part of the Mango research project launched in 1983 of the projectile of increased power, designed for defeats of modern multilayer armored obstacles. "
    Often met in the literature of Rosoboronexport in the description of the Soviet / Russian BOPS as a "projectile of increased power."
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      PiP 31 October 2015 18: 01 New
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      Quote: Earnest

      Quote: PiP
      In physics, something new discovered? Mass, power, power ... and now power wassat

      This is a standard professional term referring to warheads of ammunition, in ...
      Soviet / Russian BOPS as a "projectile of increased power."

      I wrote a little higher
      For me, this "magnitude" (power) is not clear. Those. can I equate this "power" with striking ability?
      I have never come across such a definition as “power” (after reading about it, I thought), it seems that all the parameters in its definition speak of the EFFICIENCY of the striking ability ... That is, the power = (equal to) the striking ability? In this case, these are synonyms. This means that we studied "according to different books" (c) hi
  24. gg.na 31 October 2015 10: 29 New
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    Such universality will allow in the future to have only one weapon for any type of combat missions instead of a whole "convoy" of bulky artillery "
    Well, if this instrument is covered, then all of these shells or ammunition with changing power will be thrown by hand ?! wassat Or from a slingshot lol !!!
  25. pvv113 31 October 2015 10: 44 New
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    Quote: oleg-gr
    And why ammunition needs different power options?

    In order not to shoot a sparrow from a cannon hi
    1. yuriy55 31 October 2015 18: 52 New
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      On sparrows, however, it is easier to shoot from a slingshot ... IMHO hi
  26. Stoler 31 October 2015 11: 28 New
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    Not understood? request Now dropping the “five hundred” she can not only “tear to shreds!” but just "scare it up!" ???? laughing laughing laughing
  27. Wolka 31 October 2015 16: 42 New
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    as Stanislavsky would say: "I do not believe ..."
  28. Prisoner 31 October 2015 17: 25 New
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    One must be very wasteful in order to do this. Fuganul by 10%, and 90 where? To the landfill? what
  29. yuriy55 31 October 2015 18: 49 New
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    I liked the positive humor of the article. And also:
    Details of the test are not reported in order to maintain secrecy.


    After creating ammunition with variable power in turn, the creation of cartridges with adaptable penetrability, as well as airplanes with modifiable agility, tanks with convertible all-terrain vehicles, ships with invertible immutability and missiles with transformable imperceptibility ... laughing
  30. Victor-M 31 October 2015 20: 29 New
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    German developers from TDW created and already tested fundamentally new technology for changing the power of ammunition, reports the Russian newspaper with reference to the resource Defense Aerospace.

    laughing laughing laughing
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    What they won’t do to please the Americans. Now, moderate terrorists in Syria can be eliminated using moderate charges with a capacity of 10%, and real (frostbitten) charges of 100%. And the sheep are safe and the wolves are full.